Why the pros pick Kharazim (An analytical take on Pro Play)

An in-depth look at why Kharazim is picked by the pros and particularly why they always go the damage build over the healing build which has a higher win rate on ladder.

[@Ins_ta]

Holy shit, you remind me of my ex... "I'm done talking about it!!" 2 seconds later... Talks about it again.

[@audamadic]

lmao

[@cadwar]

Why the pros pick Kharazim (An 30 minute analytical discussion on lvl 1 talents) ….to be followed by more lvl 1 talent discussion in the comments section.

[@Poifix]

You should probably open more tabs in your browser. You don't seem to have enough.

[@RippedKristiyan]

Well, just 42 tabs bro.

[@Gamerpark555]

20:55 Cleanse is a 60 second cooldown. Also, I feel like it should be mentioned that a major reason Kharazim was picked in pro play for a long time was because he's one of the best Tracer counters in the game. Also, it's not as simple as just saying that Kharazim will do well into any team with a lot of CC. His cleanse doesn't come online until level 16, which is a huge way off into the game. Often if you're playing against a CC heavy pick comp they come online much sooner, and a normal level 7 cleanse from Uther or Rehgar will be necessary. Kharazim is also a very low throughput healer, like Uther, so he has trouble mitigating poke. One of the best ways to counter a solo healer Kharazim is simply to draft a defensive poke composition, and assuming your team plays it correctly and you aren't being too threatened, you should be able to poke them into oblivion, similar to an Uther composition.

[@jeanprofile]

Dude I cant believe you have only 2.6k subs, the quality of your content is insanely good. Good job! Keep it up!

[@NotParadox]

Jean Lucas yeah I'm pretty new. Channel started back up a couple weeks ago. I also only do one game I think if I branched out it would grow faster. But for now it's fun. My goal is just sneak out a fee videos a week

[@Seramics]

NotParadox Hi, welcome to hots and thanks for making such good videos for the hots community. As cliche as it might sound. We do need more people like you producing quality content. The game isn't super big. So every bit helps.

[@CompleteBot-u9f]

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[@amonnoma1370]

If he skip the pointless talking he will get more people.

[@JJskywalker]

you annoyed me on this one, i get it, move on... the pros choose it, if people want to know how good insight is they can watch another vid, not sure why you keep badgering on about it. Have been enjoying ur vids, but had to stop watching this one, plain out annoying. I think what made it worse is you kept saying your gonna stop talking about it.... then you keep talking about it.

[@NotParadox]

Hey Guys I understand your concerns about the amount I talked about the level 1 talent. But the reason I spent so long talking about the level one talent is precisely because of what is happening in the comments. Pros up to about a couple days ago picked iron fists in 100% of games. And people always asked "why is iron fists being picked over insight, insight is objectively better in every way." I wanted to show areas why. Sure I sounded like a broken record, but after reading the comments I can tell I didn't explain enough about the level one talents. Don't get me wrong, I can definitely be wrong and I am wrong all the time, but when 100% of the pros pick a talent and I explain some of the reasons that is, when people argue with me about how insight is better, that isn't what the video is about. Without getting into arguments about this I will say something, then be done with the entire level 1 debate. All 3 are viable and have their roles in different comps and ranks. But in high rank play people won't let you attack them for a long time in fights. So would you rather chunk them for more damage, do a small heal or lower your cooldowns. Knowing that the hits you land will likely be when you feel safe and when you feel safe is when your whole team is full health and full mana. Personally I can never get any value in fights out of Blue or Green unless the enemies are playing poorly (which happens, but iron fist gains value if the enemies are playing well or poorly). Outside of fights insight seems to be the best for macro stuff, but you lose your early game power spikes. Green tends to be the best if your team is taking a lot of poke damage but many pros ask the question, why go green build when you can pick a different healer who will do it better and safer? Overall I think each of them have their place, but in pro play the times you want to pick khara you need to pick ironfist with only a very small set of exceptions.

[@user-go2ld4ti6r]

Well actually it is not explaining. Just because some peoples dont really realise how +% works. Whhen you have ~70 attack damage, +110% gives you +77 and in same moment you can heal more for most wouden ally(for example, tank-iniciator). Mana-talent need only after quest complete. Only because cdr bonus. You are not "damage dealer" you say. But you're taking iron fists and... it still deal no damage. So there is easy choices: 1. A little damage buff. 2. A moderate healing burst. 3. CDR allowing you to cleance more and heal more. So...

[@thermal604]

@@user-go2ld4ti6r I know im late but its 110% added. as you can see in the video he does 94 damage and 94 times 2.1 is 193.2 and on every third attack he was doing 194 so rounded up. you should check your math before insulting others on it

[@JohannLudwigEdel]

Insight > all, if you are not top level competitive pro play with a very specific composition. Your average team will take every opportunity to trade blows, with iron fists you will be out of mana and recalling not half the time but all the time, even in masters. But with insight you will do almost as much damage because the cd reduction makes up a lot of it mid/late game and you will not need to back while being able to keep your team topped off all the time. You can even play fully into that and just trade the enemy into submission by outhealing them, which works lovely especially in combination with zarya.

[@alexmason9397]

Johann Ludwig Edel preach

[@GLITSH1]

That was a really good analysis with a lot of valuable info ... Gj

[@김원우-h3u]

Notparadox : and i keep coming back to the level 1 talent again..... me : oh man~ not again!

[@FVPseudo]

Great video as always. I think one thing you could've elaborated on more is the value of the level 13 talent. Tassadar's Celerity at level 4 gives 20% movespeed for 4 seconds on one target. Brightwing's E gives 20% movespeed to one target. Lucio's movespeed E gives a bonus 20% in an aoe. Morales stim gives 25% movespeed to 1 target. Bloodlust (HAH) gives 25% movespeed in an aoe. Kharazim gives 30% movespeed bonus, *equivalent to mount movespeed at 130%*, on *two* targets (includes himself), AND can do that 3 times over 3 seconds with a 9 second cooldown to get 1 charge back, an effective 12 seconds of free mount. It can also be cast in an (effective) aoe, if you need to movespeed buff 2 or more people, as long as you jump and time your Qs correctly to ensure everyone gets it.

[@NotParadox]

I definitely could have the movespeed is very strong.

[@nickbunich3165]

Hmmm, though I am always taking “orange” build I disagree with your arguments. “Would he have transcendence, the result of this action would be worse”. No, there would be another action, play-style changes . “He didn’t need mana on immortal” - yea, but cdr would be useful. As I said, I still think, that if you want more healing, you should just pick another support. It’s the reasoning behind your explanation I disagree with.

[@chrisneto]

I've been playing him a bit more recently - he is really well suited for the reasons you mention. I think you have to acknowledge another aspect of his synergy; the heroes he is teamed with either have to have enough mobility or self sustain to compensate for his lack of raw healing. He works with all-in comps much like the one in this video and is lacking with poke comps using the likes of guldan, Johanna and such. He is a niche support, very fun to play but has to be played with the right comp.

[@The_Azure_]

I feel as though you were pushing too hard for Iron Fists and just ended up cherry picking reasons for why it's the only real choice, while also leaving out Insight's CDR to all basic abilities, Q, W, and E. Iron Fists - allows for burst and overall more damage in the early game, which can start the ball rolling. Insight - gives early game sustain, but by mid-game when you finish its quest, the infinite Deadly Reach puts dps on par with Iron Fists while giving far more utility through more Q charges and W heals and effects while also giving infinite mana. The only area Insight falls behind Iron Fists mid-game is that Insight has equal damage, through sustained contact, whereas Iron Fist is a burst within 2-3 seconds. I'd rather have insight in most situations for its extra heals, movement buffs, and dashes, with the standout exception being if my team's comp specializes in early-game domination.

[@Lacroixas]

Sorry, would you kindly tell me a bit more about the level 1 talent?

[@stanleylau09]

Oh wow, i never knew the reason ppl picked him, very nice job! I really like your videos, really helped me improve as a support main. Thanks for all the tips!

[@menecross]

You know that after you finish Insight ... you can hit 100%+ Deadly Reach upkeep. Yes you don't have the damage ... but you have more everything ... and the damage is there through Deadly Reach upkeep.

[@adomaster123]

menecross enemy teams just won’t give you time to get off damage through 100% deadly reach uptime. They’ll just CC you, burst you down, or walk away while your spamming right click. Fists of iron lets you get OOF your damage SO much faster, which leaves you less susceptible to getting murdered. Insight gives you more sustained DPS, but in a realistic scenario, you’ll never get to use it.

[@pepus777]

The problem with insight is in "pro play" you never auto attack enough to get the quest done.

[@otashi3239]

Pepus dont you basic attack with his q and e? I mean i usually go insight and solo camps at first unless my team is being handed, then like 7 minutes in i can heal every other 2 seconds

[@Arkanes_Ark]

Still here guys. So Khara is actually IMO one of the best healers if played correctly. Iron fist is OP, Cleanse is OP and tbh Palm is OP if used correctly. With that being said , Khara is very hard to play. He's listed as Medium but should be listed as "hard.

[@LeskovakianTank]

You are a fantastic game analyst, a quality content creator as such, and Kharazim is my dearest hero as of recently. This video surely was insightful (no pun intended).

[@nuggitz4011]

All these comments about insight build being possibly better or similar opinions are kind of silly. If you look at the title of the video and listen to the whole thing...he is speaking purely in pro play. Pro play and even master league are two completely different games. It's like apples and oranges. From bronze all the way to GM's i can certianly see insight have it's time and place depending on the map/draft/etc. But this video was purely about pros and how they play it. And if you're not a pro player, how can you argue against what they do? You honestly believe you have a better grasp on it than people who do this for a living?

[@mauboy1983]

I agree with some of the comments here. I usually, too, go mana and cd reduce. If I had the luxury to play with competent people who know what they are doing, then yes, iron fist build all the way. But most of the casual games I get people who jump into fights with 5% hp after already being saved from death once. So... great explaination, but unusuable for the most part. At least for me and my kind of games. Unfortunately.

[@ProdAlarick]

This is a good build what Pros should play. For Low ranking players. Insight,Earth Ally,Blazing Fists,Divine Palm,Fists of Fury,Echo of Heaven,Peaceful Repose. After lv16. You can solo a Boss,if not focused you can spam,W+E of CD aslong as you are not focused and can AA. Mighty&Fun#tonsofdmg#tonsofheal :D

[@guardiangarasu]

For a note: Do not draft someone like Khara at low levels. You need steady healing then, because people at low ranks are too stupid to sit back and let you heal them. They want to fight fight fight, which will always result in you losing.

[@OzixiThrill]

11:22 - The entire fight was won by the Kharazim's team not because he picked up Iron fist, but because their team caught the other's healer out of position and they didn't respond well to it, nor did they call the retreat in time, causing the team to fold that engagement and the objective. Recall how little hero damage the Kharazim did altogether? I'd say, even without the talent, all those kills would have happened, only maybe one fraction of a second later. Also, insight in that fight would have allowed the Kharazim, the Ming and the Tyrael to keep going with their mana. EDIT - Wait... Did Kharazim give mana to others at the time of the video? I seem to recall him giving it at some point... EDIT 2 24:51 - CCing a healer can win a fight? Whoda thunk! But no, seriously, if a Dehaka can remove someone from a fight, and an Anub even follows up, the odds of the team losing the fight are already sky high... It didn't matter too much who got hit (Except for the cleanse in this case, but eh)

[@vertex546]

I want to like this channel, but every episode there's always SOMETHING that rubs me the wrong way....For example @17:15 through 18:40 ish. You say Khara is better off not picking the healing build as three of his team mates are dead because he couldn't get in there to heal them in the first place. The whole video you're saying his healing build is less than par but @8:00, does he need the extra healing? No, but he could solo the camp by himself therefore giving his other two team mates the ability to do literally anything else like go bot against that push and possibly get a kill. @8:26 You say his healing is useless because he could get damage off instead...but where's the damage??? Khara instead ends up at 1/3 health and you say his healing is useless because he has to fountain...as the enemy team backs off and Khara could heal off the wave anyway. I'm not going to go through the WHOLE video, but surely you see my point. It's as if you pick an opinion, find a game that vaguely matches it then try to justify the "meta" behind it.

[@auracle6184]

Most important things in this video: Why do you have Chrome, Firefox AND Opera, and how do you have a billion tabs in Chrome without your PC choking

[@GhostMihneaRo]

I used to play Kharazim a year ago in hero league, I don't like playing supports because of their low impact, especially in low level games. I was picking him in Diamond level MMR, always with Insight and heal related talents and sometimes it would work out, other times not and I felt like it was nothing I could've done to change those times. Thanks for showing and explaining this build, I honestly agree. If the whole team knows how to play, if they clear waves efficiently, have good mechanics then the only thing that remains is tank picks/engages. You could play a tank and make the picks yourself or play Kharazim and save your teammates which may be more beneficial in this double tank meta. Kharazim really has a lot of strengths: damage, mobility, utility, healing. He just doesn't have waveclear which makes him obsolete in low elo.

[@truplaya089]

I disagree with a lot of this, but where I can't disagree is the point of this video. The pros play differently as a team, this is pretty obvious or they wouldn't be at the level they're at. In the average players game, their team doesn't stack effectively for W and they often don't time camps or even help. The efficiency in pro play vs the average players game is staggering. However it would be very wrong to pick apart this video because you're clearly giving the thought behind why "pros" pick it. Like others have said, you're doing a good job with these videos and you should definitely continue. I enjoy your insight(no pun) and I like that you're open to being wrong. I think if you stay objective and continue these video, a lot of people will benefit.

[@BN99239]

Going for any damage-oriented talents is usually better simply because you can deal damage to lane minions, mercenaries, structures, objectives, enemy heroes etc. Going for heal-oriented talents limits you in the sense that your allies are not always in need of healing or even if they do need the heal, they may not be in range or your heal is on cooldown and so forth. You can play around lack of healing by just not getting hurt that often...but it's hard to play around lack of damage. Same goes with mana talents, you can play around lack of mana by not spamming and by making every ability count. With a good team and a good comp, damage is much more versatile. Specifically about level 1 talents in your video, I'd like to add that the Insight talent at level 1 is actually quite useful when you complete quest, because you can heal indefinitely with your W (after picking up the W heals twice talent). You'll always have mana and your W is up again after the second W goes off. Just wanted to add that but I am sure you know. I would still pick damage though.

[@rbrannon]

Insight OP Not for mana, but for CD. You can be in non-stop deadly reach and have a heal every few seconds. I would pick him as a secondary healer/damage dealer. Never a main healer.

[@Sakar_MA]

Really good video ! I liked it a lot and I managed to understand a lot about the hero. But there is something that concern me - looking at the draft, they have tyrael - he has AOE shield, Thrall - he has self sustain, Li- ming - she took the healing talent at 4, kharazim and genji. Maybe it is so effective this talent build because the team composition allows it. My point is: if you play in QM you will need that extra healing which you many times said it is not needed, if you play ranked or unranked at not high MMR it still probably not work that often since everyone is doing whatever he wants during the draft and you will need that extra healing. So probably this build is very situational and if you dont have the right team composition it wont work ..imo. And yes ofcourse you shoudnt be pick hero that does not fit your team at first place but again a lot of people are doing it :)

[@ScorchedEclipse]

i've started to realize myself in games why monk is picked. you pick him if your team needs more burst/damage while also providing a burst heal and a bit of mobility. people building insight on monk may also work but your comp needs to be on the sustain end already (ie another supp double tank with a hypercarry maybe, probably a horrible example lol) even then, other supps do that better and far safer like Lucio or Malf if you wanted sustained healing. Monk is at his best with this good trade/burst mind set first, with a little bit of supporting on the side.

[@nublord365]

Monk sees very little hgc play these days. Those stats from 6-9 months ago don't really matter much because of how much he as a character and the meta in general have changed.

[@DelphinidaeZeta]

You're looking at games played just last month.

[@Kaligor]

I would consider Kharazim as a whole a hero that is good when ahead and bad when behind. He's terrible at playing defensively and he struggles heavily when under leveled. Iron fist is a good option to get ahead early. But that is its only strength, he can bully people early when other heroes lack talents. Insight is the opposite, it rewards you for staying even and making it to mid-late game. Which is far more common in Non-pro games.

[@danielamezcua3911]

I just want to say you’re downplaying the role of insight. While I agree iron fists is better, I think insight is a nice in between between trans and fists. He gets lower cd on deadly reach, so on objectives where he’s fighting, he can keep his mana high, constantly heal, and have deadly reach up almost the whole time. So yeah, insight may not be as good as iron fists, but you’re definitely downplaying it’s role

[@griff3n69]

Any tips on when, how to use palm? I find people run away and don't take fatal. I wish I would of got the neon khara nexo skin

[@nickbunich3165]

Also, another reason why pros take monk sometimes is for the one shot comps. Like, for example, greymane + kharazim will make Debbils life miserable.

[@josephvilteski8707]

When he talks about insight he talks about nothing but the mana gains, but once you get 100 stacks of insight your third auto attack reduces cooldowns of all your abilities by 1 second, that with another talent makes it so that your deadly reach cooldown finishes before the ability so you can always have it on. And while yes iron fists does more damage and makes the objective go faster, a full stack of insight would make it go far faster. You also like to mention that the healing is useless and you use the fact that the entire team is at full health and "what would healing or mana do?" Even though the healing is to heal people in fights, not while they're not taking damage

[@brentramsten249]

lol... i always pick the stupid builds. i used to have iron fists build until i found a insight build that let you spam every ability every 3 seconds and be permanently in volley of blows. it is a silly build, but allows you to generate almost as much sustain as an attacking fury varian but in an area and at a range (also you never run out of mana).

[@JsoProductionChannel]

Brent Ramsten insight is the second option if you dont need iron fist. the cd reduction can give you more heals and damage in the long run.

[@reecemartory5668]

@@JsoProductionChannel I disagree. It's only better once the quest is done. Honestly if the other team is letting you hit that much as the main healer. You would have gotten way more use out of iron fists anyway. If you have insight and the quest isn't done and you are winning the team fight anyway. Then iron fist would have been better.

[@JsoProductionChannel]

the quest can also be completed on minions, monsters and mercs.

[@jcubealive2783]

I was so confused, "why does khara has the highest win rate with healing passive?" Then doesn't cover that and goes off tangent. Malfurion gained a monster cleanse which means malf didn't lose cleanse

[@TranscendentalMental]

HOLY TABS BATMAN Shit is mildly triggering honestly.

[@raveneye77]

I still don’t get why pros pick Iron Fist. You should elaborate such important topics a lot more. I am so lost now and don’t know what to pick at level 1.

[@The_Referee]

lv 98 khara here, thanks for the video, i still get benefit off it ! i will try this build and your coaching analysis, you are right about the lv 1 talent. but my usual build is insight +blinding speed + fist of fury + echo of heaven, if i am constantly hitting something, anything, i will able to have 100% up time deadly reach and heal after lv 13 or 16, always over heal, and able to get to 6 digits healing. and i rarely need to hearth back for mana or hp, i can just get it from hitting the "health globe" captain minion, just hitting him and his globe is enough to get me back. p.s. i am not a pro, and wont be playing against pro.

[@griff3n69]

Anyone some it up in quick tip form? I don't have any sound right now

[@MisterGodBunny]

I'll save you 30mins of listening to the same thing. Don't pick transendance at level 1.

[@christofferhoff6669]

Good video, but you kinda repeated transendences value abit too much I got the point the second or third time your mentioned it, think you could have shortened the video by cutting down the repetition. But else great analysis.

[@Linoinsenger]

Iron fist gets value because liming is dominance+calamity, thrall has self heal, tyrael mad shields everyone and genji is genji. No one needs that hard heal

[@ocek2744]

I think you should do a video about Ragnaros's ultimates, because the way they are used is *not* intuitive at all. Lava Wave is best used on 3 lane maps (I know, surprise), and Hammer is best used on 2 lane maps according to the data on HotsLogs.

[@Korakos]

Wrong title... it should be "why you do not pick transcendence over iron fists"

[@orloxGR]

Nice but at this game kharazim was not the healer they had a healer. So what happens if you are the only healer and your team is not always full from another healer?

[@BOnEhEAdD]

Hmm... what do you think about Insight's value once the quest is completed? The CDR has always sounded insane to me and now, to my surprise, it barely gets mentioned... is it simply because the early game power spikes are more important? By the way, only just found out about this channel, cannot say enough good about it. Amazingly constructive and informative. I've always considered this game a broken piece of junk and now you're making me avidly interested in how it works :) If I played it on regular basis, I would subscribe immediately ^^

[@reecemartory5668]

He isnt saying insight is bad. He's saying its not great on the pro level. Look at how little Kara's damage to heros was. He would have never finished the quest, or at least not till the last minutes

[@Tex_Teufelhunden]

But insight lowers cool downs, and if you pick duration boost on the E it never goes on cool down

[@jackmaurantonio8811]

srsly so annoying that u spent the whole vid preaching about the lvl 1 talent

[@boyson2671]

I get so frustrated just listening to you talking about the 1st talent pick.

[@alextrollip7707]

I like your videos. But a literal 11mim and 30 seconds on just harping on about one talent tier is boring. Iron fist is good YEAH. But it's good in this situation because pro, everyone has sustain and shields and he's playing with it. Insight gets value on this map once you cap it, which you can do by the end of the first objective giving you at the end more damage and more healing.

[@alextrollip7707]

Also side note.. good advice comes with this talent is good, but this is when to pick other talents. Just harping on about one talent especially when they all have similar play rates makes people not want to listen to your advice.

[@adrianmalinowski1073]

Actually insight heals more than transcendce :D

[@arandombard1197]

40 tabs open? Absolutely disgusting.

[@robertadammccuesullivan2084]

dude has more tabs open than i have money in my bank account

[@daniellin7344]

hey random question. why do you use that browser haha

[@GunRunner106]

allies dont even get extra mana when he goes insight....

[@jake212]

my real question is why do you have so many tabs open

[@Krigerjohn]

So many tabs, I see you're a man of culture as well!

[@WarBirdx]

So many tabs lol

[@billh4802]

So what do you think is the best level1 talent?

[@whocaresaboutmyusername22]

talent build numbers please

[@Bassaaron4]

DUDE!!!! You owe me $100 for evrytime you say "Transcendance" "Iron Fist" & "Insight" 😤🤑😵 WE GET IT!!!!

[@DaNyBoY46]

Why do you have 8000 tabs open?

[@adderall3676]

What the fuck are your tabs bro

[@dartanionff11]

OMG all those open tabs!

[@e1ian]

How are you still talking about the tier 1 talent 11 minutes into the video??

[@e1ian]

Sorry, *16 minutes into the video

[@Settinor]

:)

[@dvegan314]

Trying to be brief, Insight at 1 is always viable and, in my opinion, sometimes the best, when having that increased mobility and chase potential (for your team with W speed) is what will make things happen. This is also why, when some pros have chosen Insight, they choose the increased W speed at 7 (for the mobility). Later on, he can get even more cleanses, but he also can get "infinite healing" with Echo of Heaven, which is sometimes really, really good. Also, I want to emphasize the fact that Insight is not for the Mana; rather, it is for the cd reduction, and the Mana is to keep the cd reduction worthwhile and effective.

[@Dionyboz]

There is value of insight after 100 stacks because of lower cds

[@teddyweddibumbo1]

Hey, considering they had a Tyrael, wouldn't the movement speed on Q been a bit superfluous? Fantastic videos btw!

[@Tinohadji]

Trancendance is highest win rate on that map for a reason in non-pro play diamond master. He never hearths, always is healing, always stacked on mana, and stacks quick on immortal. The fact of the matter is, that pro's are co-ordinated and efficient in single target isolation. In non pro play, the plays drag on longer. And transcendance is crippling on that map if they are running out mana, and sustain, while you are not. Add a single E talent, and he has uptime of 100% on his E, without ever blowing mana. (And actually does more damage to immortal, since the E is 100% uptime, and you never running out of mana). Now imagine the enemy has a lunara for example, whitling down your team, and khara is becomes and endless healing/cd fountain, simply by hitting the immortal. The enemy team eventually needs to hearth if they dont get an insta blow up (which is hard whith khara always pushing down his CD and heals). So to summarize.. If your team has drafted as well as 'pros' and they have tyrael Genji ming or any combiniation of high mobility instant blow up... Yes it can work to go DPS at 1. But in many cases the team is not so streamlined. And against many compositions without the instant blowup.. Damage khara loses a lot of potential.

[@vojinvmilojkovic7622]

I did read your comment below and i agree, I play hybrid dps, heal. So i can support when needed but take initiative in fights Since i am not quite talented guy and probably my matchmaking reflect that, usually i either lack proppa ballz warrior/tank so i lack who to support or i lack who to support me, so i found that kharazim fills that role perfectly at my lvl, sustain in both dmg and some heal to stay longer in lanes, pushes and fights . great vid, keep it up

[@Scarletraven87]

I KNEW IT! The multiple low cd cleanse are so valuable and everyone else, even in diamond, is blind to this! And the Earth ally gives AOE BLOCK and people go for heal!

[@Dalonso1994]

Good analysis, man. I only have one observation though: please when you record yourself CLOSE other stuff because the sounds of your notifications were simply annoying. ...And maybe try not to be so redundant about the same talent tier, once you explained in depth, move on.

[@jordig1858]

This video helped me a lot during certain types of battegrounds. I also love the insight + E build, but your build (the Q+cleanse build) really helped a lot to optimize my playstyle. Unfortunately, even in diamond, where I am currently ranked, a lot of ppl still don't know how to play with a Kharazim.

[@smendesmusic]

Perfect video! No bs tactics and straight to the point! 👍🏻

[@whiteorangesportster]

Interesting video. But I still think you're short changing lvl 1 insight. Picking one over the other will definitely influence how you will play kharazim. Iron fists favors hard engage while insight favors increased cleanses and healing. It seems like it just depends on the map and team comps. Thanks for the video and shining some light on my current favorite hero!

[@JsoProductionChannel]

kill potential/hard engage. burst. cleanse.

[@scandnavik]

After watching this video, I finally find the best way to have fun playing Kharazim. Thanks for the video!

[@bylloo]

man... couldnt watch everything.... couldnt hear more about the lvl 1 talent!!!!

[@Vulcanfaux]

Hmmm I always thought insight was the best. I get earth ally. It's really good especially if your opponents are all auto attack focused.

[@spyro2002]

If you can finish insight it becomes much better than iron fists because not only you get more healing but also lots of damage by reducing your other cooldowns. Iron fists is definitely good for many situations but insight can be more valuable for the late game price.

[@sarawierzba5308]

When would a kharazim pick be better over a stukov pick? I Find that Stukov is one of the best supports rn, and i'm not sure if I should learn kharazim

[@cagaulu]

Conclusion as far as I understood: Pick the healing or mana talent at level 1, because it's worth more than doing a few more damage?

[@nathantrojan3688]

"I don't want to be redundant, but I'm going to repeat myself." Haha. Other than that, I do appreciate a video like this.

[@mehmetgokalpberk]

I remember in this years hgc, 7 sided kharazim was picked with bullet greymane. They insta killed enemy muradin twice.

[@scweet]

Zim not Zeem :D

[@sparxtheknight]

Great video… But I’m still curious as to why pros pick up iron fist at level one…

[@theowlboy]

I just wanted to join the choir, and say thank you for the great content! Good valuable lessons in each of your videos :) Keep up the great work!

[@Xtefanno]

Dude, great video but talking twice about the first talent is enough. Keep up with good work!

[@PedramNG]

Wow that was amazing ... 😎👌👍

[@Racquetballerkevin]

Soooo, I didn't catch it, what talent do you pick at level 1? JK great video.

[@nalcarya]

If Thrall is rude it's pretty much a guaranteed kill! :^)

[@ShadowMaster885]

Good video, but you sound like a broken record player after a while

[@belljo]

learned something... thank you!

[@fragdq]

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