Warframe Heirloom Skins Are Overpriced

[@raeishimura]

I like the skins, they look great, but these prices are ridiculous for what you get. Even the lower tier one is VERY hard to justify that cost

[@NovaUmbral]

In case I am not clear for some reason, I have NOTHING against supporter packs and microtransactions in a free to play game, Warframe and Digital Extremes have to make profits somehow off of a free product. The past supporter packs I've had no issues with, but this time they have decided to lock a WARFRAME DELUXE SKIN behind a FOMO paywall. The problem isn't the pack or bundle, the problem is the price of the bundles.

[@Benzinilinguine]

No one would be batting an eye at $30-40. Especially with plat. Zero plat at $70 and 600 at $90 is an insult to players.

[@Nerve_DMG]

i bought the largest pack i can. the only problem i have is the measly ammount of plat i got with it. everything else seems fine to me, infact this is better than their most famous use of FOMO the founders pack, since its cosmetics not stat upgrades. i dont think this is overpriced for the items i am getting at all, i think this is overpriced for the tiny ammount of plat. again, i dont really care though, as i have already bought it, and will continue to buy things from DE

[@umaninstrumentalityprject2989]

Bro they trying to copy apex legends heirloom prices 😭💀

[@SergeLynx89]

Fully agree. The price for the bundles is not worth it when you can buy other bundles that give you more for cheaper.

[@threeofjays6420]

The thing that go on top of their head which I'm just gonna call hats aren't exclusive to them I placed it on my volt and rev

[@samreddig8819]

I just wish they also had an excal/volt skin. 4 skins for that price is a bit more fair. And it really should include all the starter frames.

[@Simny_]

That would've been cool however I think they just wanted veterans to reminisce on the old metas with these cosmetics, since mag and frost dominated in the early days.

[@iterationfackshet1990]

If they did that AND had the prime versions along with them I’d think that make an excellent 10 year anniversary bundle.

[@omarelfakihperez4466]

People keep saying "oh is just optional, nothing game breaking" and I get that, but staying quiet about things we do not accept is how companies keep pushing predatory practices

[@zect6522]

It is exactly thanks to those retarded defenses that gaming companies can just satiate their greed. I support Digital Extremes, but not this disgusting FOMO bait, cuz this is the kind of thing that turns ppl into actual assholes and tears the community apart.

[@DawnAfternoon]

Hell that's how it started with D2's monetization hell and if we don't push back they will try to cross the line over and over again

[@vivekkparashar]

The ownership of tencent is showing 😂

[@chichoskruch21]

Absolutely agree. Right after Tennocon I went to the website with the intention to buy these super cool skins, as both Mag and Frost are among my favorite frames. But when I saw the prices, I was like "nah, ain't paying THAT much". Sorry, but just ridiculous price.

[@cellano5223]

Same. I'd love to get that Frost, but for that price I could buy a whole different game.

[@junkandcrapamen]

@@cellano5223 a few different games.

[@Eli_Guy]

I really hope they see all this backlash and make the skins purchasable as normal This would be a really bad precident for the future - which, Destiny players know will not be fun

[@501sttrooperbmc2]

Preach it mate.

[@derpy_j]

But then you'll get those who have already paid for it start to complain.

[@Dlark17]

​@@derpy_jfuck em

[@fakedemocracy]

Backlash over cosmetics? Eh. I’m more worried about paying my rent and electricity bills.

[@StevenTLawson]

​@@fakedemocracyThen you can shut the fuck up since you dont care. But other smarter people see this as a bad move, one done by other games and it has always led to predatory changes in the way they monetize the game. So next time you shit out your mouth, just dont and walk away you worthless piece of trash

[@SPACE_BOOOOOST]

At least now we know why the 10 year anniversary in-game rewards were so lackluster, the stuff they actually put effort into was meant to be sold for the price of 2 full games. What a wonderful gift to people who supported Warframe all these years.

[@koldraxonofthefirstseven5718]

I agree with this, except... the price choice. The halos are essentially auxiliary attachments (they don't usually count when part of a bundle), and if we're going by how Deluxe skins are normally priced, these together would be around ~375 plat (including everything except the plat and Regal Aya) which would be around £15, if it was bundled with the plat and Aya. That I would tolerate. £60 for two skins and redeem tokens for their Primes feels like a poorly-thought cash grab, especially when there's already skins like Frost Harka, Mag Penumbra, and Tennogen that could do similar. The thing I personally find darkly amusing is that this is the only recollectable gripe I've really had with Tennocon. The 'games on your phones?' bit was more of a hilarious, if not unfortunate, callback to when Blizzard did that at their Blizzcon - but it's impressive to see phones capable of running Warframe.

[@syrus1233]

I think the zenith pack is really good bought it. Also Warframe just has good optimziation hood on DE for making the game run on potatoes

[@civrk5221]

Poorly thought cash grab? Dude its literally a supporter bundle like the whole founders thing, you're paying to support DE for the years of work they've put into warframe and getting some exclusive skins and profile features.

[@koldraxonofthefirstseven5718]

@@civrk5221 The Founder's Pack was the 0th Prime Access. This one has Regal Aya instead of the Primes. While I get the 'yeah it's to support them', the price for two Deluxe-tier skins, an emote most will never see, a sigil and glyph should not be that. The Regal Aya and plat bumping the price to the level of a Prime Access is what's annoying here. DE could set the precedent of being able to charge £60 for two skins, 600 plat, and 6 Regal Aya (which is really all it is at the end of the day). If it sells well to them, they'll do it again until people think it's fine to spend £30 on one Deluxe skin. While I appreciate the supporter's sentiment, the content in that pack isn't enough to warrant its price(s). Upside is that it's the only negative from this year's Tennocon that I can see.

[@BigHailFan]

@@civrk5221you are the problem

[@pexalt8009]

I Feel like for these packs you should get the primes and more platinum as well but we all know that is not going to happen

[@NovaUmbral]

It would have at least *somewhat* justified the zenith collection as right now its all skins (but they cleverly tied regal aya so players without the base frames can jump into the resurgence program instantly)

[@Acym_]

I mean, you get 6 regal aya, which translate to 2 Prime Frames from Varzia, which now are Frost and Mag

[@martiandesertboy]

@@NovaUmbral they should just make a universal battle pass that gives a 30 day booster so long as the pass is active that makes the most sense loll, boosters, 8 forma a month, a free prime every 2 months, for maybe 15$ a month does not sound bad at all. i already do it with fn though its every season. but this will legitamtely help DE and make em calm down. or even skins with the battle pass active they have too many options

[@LivingAlkalineSolution]

​@@martiandesertboyplease no. I'm so tired of every game slapping on a battle pass

[@igotbanned3timesfromyoutub883]

@@martiandesertboy STOP ADDING BATTLEPASSES INTO EVERY DAMN GAME

[@js100serch]

In my region the complete bundle costs around $47 US dollars. I love regional currency adjustments.

[@otaku3576]

$70 US Dollars in brazil. _.

[@RexRagerunner]

its 18,47 dollars here, but the local currency equevelant can buy you a car.

[@leothomas5856]

Same I bought it for $18 US dollars this is so dumb/unfair.

[@Elreptiliano3002]

12 yep regional prices are crazy xd

[@cosmicdragon9237]

Here in México is 90 ~ 100 dlls

[@Itz2Cat]

Thank you for making a video about this. I think its important to make this situation be known.

[@lookalike4805]

People don't know Warframe is always trying to Rip you Off ? 👀

[@KhristianM.]

@@lookalike4805nah this the only time it’s actually a insane price

[@nPhlames]

trust me, it's definitely known.

[@Somedude72]

@@lookalike4805na usually the packs are a decent deal and you never have to buy anything in the game unless you really love fashion but this pack is very overpriced

[@SaturNo_O017]

The fact that this pack is $20 more than the highest tier prime access is straight up criminal

[@nathanielsearle9822]

I think what really bugs me is that they said it’s like a celebration of the ten years of a warframe but it’s this expensive and sparse. Literally they could have this exact bundle with exact offerings and pricing and it would probably bug me a lot less if it was for a different reason

[@Jaden69MM]

Same

[@Humblemud]

I feel the same. I Was so excited for the heirloom Thing, but then I saw how the regal aria increased the price extremely. Excitement instantly died and I'm a bit disappointed in DE. I expected better of them. :(

[@Walt_Chocolate]

What I find interesting between "Zenith bundle" and "Prime access", Is that what's the wisp PA You can wear the sydanna, the tenno outfit, the warframe and all the weapons at once. While with the Zenith bundle, you can only use mag or frost. Which feels like you're missing out. Just kinda feels bad in general. Might explain why people are willing to pay $30 or $40 bucks for one or the other.

[@tyxander3595]

The signa on top their heads can be worn on all warframes

[@shamanahaboolist]

I actually agree. Considering this content is infinitely scalable for no extra cost to DE it doesn't really hurt them to have a more reasonable price and make up the total revenue in increased sales. $20 skins are too much. You can't ethically charge a 3rd of the cost of a whole game for a single skin. You can try but I'm never going to agree with that concept of value. These 2 skins are more than many entire games. There's no way I can justify paying that. I can afford it. I just draw a line at being overtly ripped off.

[@byrd3242]

If you haven't paid for them how are you ripped off? Isn't it only a ripoff if you have paid and feel you didn't get the value you paid for? Me personally I buy new games maybe one or 2 a year if that and often wait for them to go on sale. So since I love warframe I'll probably buy this. For those that see it as too expensive for what you get then just move on people are so outraged by an optional cosmetic. About the ethics lmao please meanwhile triple a titles releasing with dlc 6 months after release and planned content schedules ethics are so far gone from the video game world discussion.

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@byrd3242 I haven't been ripped off. I draw the line and I'm not paying £60 for 2 skins. I like the skins. I would buy them. I may even pay £20 for two skins. But £60? Nah. Not even with a little plat and a few glyphs thrown in. I'm not outraged. But DE won't be getting my money at that asking price. Simple as that. I would rather buy another game with that money. Value isn't just in the eye of the beholder. Value can be contrasted and compared with other products in the market. £60 buys a whole game. A whole game is better value than 2 skins don't you think?

[@byrd3242]

​@@shamanahaboolist I guess value is in the eye of the beholder because no I don't think a whole game is better than supporting the development of a game I've gotten 5+ years and almost 3000 hours out of lol. In another 2 or 3 years will I feel the same who knows but once again it comes to down each person and I just don't think that there is any merit complaining about something that is optional. When the game first came out had I known about it would have I paid the 250 for a founders pack absolutely not. That's my point it's all a matter of perspective and personal value. This argument can be applied to anything really I could argue that a game for 60$ is a waste of money when I could buy food with that money, it's all perspective. Either way I think these discussions are important especially with a free 2 play.

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@byrd3242 I think there's plenty of merit in expressing when you think a company is offering a bad value product. How else would you get a better value product? If you want to give DE money there's ample ways to do that. And DE would get my money and probably 1000s, maybe 100's of 1000's of more players' money if the package was priced with a bit more awareness of what it can be compared to.

[@byrd3242]

​@@shamanahaboolist On a youtube video where the echo chamber is the loudest? By not paying for it the old homage of put your money where your mouth is. The numbers will tell DE exactly whether or not it's a worthwhile expense to players if they hit their target for sales they will do the exact same thing with the next round of heirloom skins. Or they will adjust the price and move on. Volume over value has never been how free 2 play games are funded it's been a long known fact that in most free 2 play games they are funded by "whales". This kind of incentive is exactly what the micro transaction free 2 play model is based around.

[@TJM990]

When i did the math Yesterday (in USD). I came to the conclusion that while Prime Acess and Acessories aren't cheap, they offer about 3x the value of what your spending. The Celestial actually skimps you a bit by not having the bonus plat/aya that would come from $40 of Aya normally, selling it without any bonus. The Zenith does end up coming in at about a $120 value (when asking for $90), so a 30% gain. Compared to PAs 200% though, it isn't great. The actual value of the skins and their signas ends up falling to $15 each if you cut out the Aya that you may not want. Despite the low contents vs other 225p deluxe bundles, these at least have their specialty argument to argue the price. Now only if you could just get each Frames bundle separately for 15 USD... and you know...no FOMO. Hell they could remove the 10yr accolade come next year from the packs and leave the skins.

[@Izigurand]

The 2 skins with their accessories should’ve been $10 each, it’s a lot more reasonable and it’s the 10th anniversary so it’s “thematic” as well.

[@Nyla_Corvina]

it should be 10 to 15 bucks for the whole thing, a virtual costume change is not worth more then 1 or 2 bucks max. a ten dollar price tag on one skin is bullshit.

[@Izigurand]

@@Nyla_Corvina I agree $10 is a lot, but you're also getting more than just the skin, plus League of Legends, specifically, has gotten people very used to seeing overpriced cosmetics.

[@Mephistofeles]

​@@Izigurandjust because one game managed to do that doesnt mean it right or ok, i agree with the dude, if it was 10 to 15 buck each skin, i wouldnt even think twice about getting them, but i cannot justify spending this much on a price equivalent to a full blown deluxe edition of a triple a game.

[@Waelleto]

Thank you so much for making a video about this, that pack is full of predatory marketing techniques and it's NOT okay

[@scotthuffman3462]

Isn't it illegal in some countries to offer a bundle and not offer each piece for individual purchase? I feel like blizzard recently got in trouble for this...

[@XxX_afterHours_XxX]

it is, and we should send this to the government in order to pressure DE out of it

[@ImSamhel]

Making a comment for the algorithm

[@NobleUnclean]

+

[@Yewrenegade]

Either they lower the price around 70$ with an increase of plat and Regal Aya or have added more items on the bundle that is worth the price, like 5 Warframe slots, 10 weapons slots/any slot, unlocking all normal color palettes on the shop, adding an account buff after purchasing the bundle that every shop in the market is heavily discounted for 80% until December including steam cosmetics too and as well as giving a bundle booster for double resource, drop chance and mod chance. That would be somewhat reasonable if it's the case but that's just my opinion

[@mattacer]

people who buy it most likely have enough frame slots, on the other hand loadout slots would be more appreciated

[@cephamet5376]

Well this sucks. I wasn't able to tune in the tennocon but when i heard/saw the new skins i was hyped(especially the mag one). But until now, i has no idea how expensive it was. I was thinking the skins alone would be like around 20 bucks or just pure plat maybe...

[@slightlyoffensive6641]

I saw somewhere that this seems less like DE priced this and more like Tencent did, and I agree with that sentiment. Seeing how DE handles most support packs, having fairly representative amounts of plat, this kind of change seems too drastic for it to be something they decided on themselves.

[@jaybirdjargon]

I was going to say this reeks of Tencent

[@weebutrash8733]

You're sounding like the Destiny 2 fans, defending bungo saying it was all Activision when in reality it wasn't 💀

[@slightlyoffensive6641]

@weebutrash8733 maybe, but in Destiny's case, it's consistently high prices. With prices like this being a new high for DE and Warframe, it makes it an outlier.

[@hughw2377]

Sorry but unless your mains are mag and frost, £75 for 2 skins is CRAZY, inflation really hitting warframe😂💀

[@KhristianM.]

Even being a frost main, $70 is just wild , real life still exist😂

[@andrewwilliams3207]

I'm glad the community as a whole is detesting the bundle price

[@EchoRose1578]

Yeah, sadly I'm not willing to spend a week's worth of groceries on a skin pack -_-

[@chickennuggcorgi]

I would've loved had it been just the skins for $30 or you can actually choose an individual skin for $15 each I do not care at all for regal aya and I will never play frost in my life -- I just want the mag skin. But I cannot justify $70 for a single skin, no matter how badly I want to support DE

[@fantablack1998]

Crazy Frost got a 90 dollar skin but we’ve been begging for a rework for a long time.

[@tannerkennedy4192]

That’s because the gameplay team and the art team are separate that’s why some frames look really cool and but In gameplay they are either boring or weak. And the art team all they do is make good stuff that will sell like skins or warframe helmets or capes stuff like that or primes

[@Jaden69MM]

I think they had the concept of trying to rerelease primes at a higher glory with a different look simmilar to a prime acccess price. Probably geared more towards newer players but they include esoteric stuff that the serious players are going to want. I think had they made the pack include 1700-2700 plat in it that it would be a no brainer for the veteran players who already have all the primes but would use the extra stuff an save the aya in case they hit a hiyatus. I think they didnt want to make it have to much plat an ppl buy that instead of prime access or accessories and it seem like they have a decline but at the same time for the ten year pack we are expecting something that leaves us saying sweet, not a bittersweet taste in our moutg

[@khaozcat]

I want the skins, but I won't buy them until DE makes them available for plat OR in a minimal bundle with just the skins. How they are now is a predatory tactic forcing players to buy a bundle instead of just the thing they want. I do not want to support that type of microtransactions nor can I justify spending that much on cosmetics in a videogame.

[@Always.Smarter]

grow up dude. it's an optional cosmetic for a free game that doesn't lock you out of any content or strength. they're not forcing you to do anything, and calling it predatory is just delusional. if you don't want to support it, then you can do the same thing as 99.9% of players, and just don't buy it.

[@Clown_the_Clown]

​@@Always.Smarter"grow up and just let companies push out terrible features" This is exactly how we've ended up with buggy releases, day one DLC, microtransactions, and $70 base games. No. I will not let this just slide.

[@Elreptiliano3002]

they are a pack only withs cosmetics and is overpriced too

[@cosmicdragon9237]

​@@Always.SmarterYou surely support the predatory packs on call of duty don't you

[@Always.Smarter]

@@cosmicdragon9237 huh? I haven't played cod in over a decade. i always find it interesting when people try to discredit someone else based on an assumption about them, rather than actually engaging with the content of what they're saying.

[@stefanorigato]

For people defending DE that they neeed money to keep servers and stuff going, remember they have already enough, in 2022 according to Steam, Warframe was in the Gold category of games ranked by Gross Revenue in 2022 at the same level of Red Dead Redemption 2 and God Of War. Remember from Steam ALONE, without counting console players. They are making enough money with Prime Access and Platinums, so if you all guys want to get these skins for platinum, just don't buy it with real money and with poor sales, DE probably will rethink their choice.

[@Salbeira]

Make it 40$ for the skins only. Make it available with plat equalling 40$. Remove the time limit or promise to let the pack return every once in a while during anniversaries as a special treat. Bam problem solved. Also: DE! Say "Sorry."

[@dablackman5130]

The skins look absolutely amazing but way too expensive, like you guys already have an amazing community who is willing to support the game in anyway possible and making it 20-30$ would probably double the sells

[@Bodgie7878]

You answered your own question there mate, $20-30 is less than half of what the price of the bundle is currently, so even if they doubled sales they'd still be making less than the price they were selling at

[@montypython5521]

It's been pretty common recently, The old prime vault pack you could get both frames and all their accessories and 1200 plat for $60 US. But the new prime resurgence complete pack cost $80 and only comes with 1200 plat

[@thetanukiwitch]

I felt real stupid wondering why people were so worried about it, i thought they were talking about the Sevagoth and Yareli deluxe skins so I was just like "then just grind the plat out lmao its not hard you don't have to spend money" I completely missed anything about the heirloom skins but now that I've seen the bundles and how much you aren't getting for what you pay, I completely understand the anger

[@Acym_]

Well, best part? In my country they cost around 52$ and I live in the middle of Europe. So them costing 90$ is just too much.

[@esordol]

signa extras are all frames, they are just themed mag/frost. essentially they are prime accessories with prime skins + 6 aya at the $70 price point

[@darrylferguson3622]

I remember seeing the battle these skins caused in region chat after the tennocon reveal. Before anyone asks, i think that the skins look great and if you have disposable income, you can get them no problem. That said, beyond aesthetics, it is poor value for money no matter the tier. The 'Risen' tier ($31 CAD/ $23 USD) has a minimum plat value of 475 assuming the colour palette cost 75 plat, and doesn't include a single skin. I could buy 540 plat for roughly 1 CAD extra in total, so even if the decals and sigils cost 20 plat each, just buying plat would be more worthwhile price wise since i can buy Frost Prime for 100 - 300 plat on WF Market and use the remainder to buy his deluxe. The 'celstial' tier ($72 CAD / 53 USD) gets you the two skins and 6 Regal Aya. Alternatively, $42 CAD or 31 USD gets you 7 Regal Aya, meaning the skins are potentially valued at $15 CAD/ 11 USD each. This is likely why they are not purchasable individually since most people would just buy the sole heirloom skins. The highest tier 'Zenith' ($93 CAD / $68 USD gets you the skins, all the decals, 600 plat and 6 Regal aya. For $86 CAD or 64 USD, you can buy 740 plat + 7 Regal Aya. You could get both prime frames for 300 plat, buy deluxe skins for both, and have plat left over. I suck at math and calculated this before watching the video, so i'm probably repeating old info and/or made a calculation error, but this pack still feels overpriced. As a 10 year anniversay themed bundle, the dex offerings make a mockery of this.

[@lincoln1269]

GG in the chat for people in regions where payment was cancelled and platinum trades are the only option to buy anything.

[@darkhatharvely6074]

Thank you for talking about that i think we need to show our frustration right now or else things could get worse in the future. Here in brazil the celestial pack (the cheaper pack with skins) is costing 260 reais this is the value of one AAA in launch.

[@samuelemmert5136]

I admittedly have slightly less stake in this than your average tenno as I don't play mag or frost enough for these skins to have been on my radar on the first place, but this does feel super scummy. I've shilled out for prime access before , but it wasn't because of the exclusive cosmetics, it was because I loved the frame, and more importantly, the game. It's quite literally the only time I've ever spent my own money on a F2P game, and perhaps I shouldn't be making broad assumptions based on anecdote, but I can't be the only one who was willing to spend money on Warframe because of the goodwill DE has demonstrated up to this point. Founder packs were one thing, it's different when you're trying to get your game off the ground. But now? They don't have that excuse, and considering the steps they've taken to mitigate FOMO with prime resurgence and limiting cash-only items to attachments and other secondary cosmetics, this stinks of them seeing what they can get away with in the smokescreen of anniversary hype.

[@gunicorn466]

I was wondering why do people say that it's overpriced. Cuz in my region the cost for the biggest pack is 31 dollars. but seeing that for most people it's more than double than that i can see why it is overpriced.

[@Elreptiliano3002]

check the price in his site the original price is 90 dollars the other price is because steam regional price

[@divinefox4306]

Vpn time?

[@NotMyRealName69]

Wtf its 120 for me

[@divinefox4306]

@@NotMyRealName69 def vpn time for you

[@NotMyRealName69]

@@divinefox4306 ps4 sadly... also MY TV JUST F'N DIED TODAY FML

[@Ydrakar]

I’m not defending it, but i think the pack’s purpose is as a “founder’s pack 2” because they’ve got a profile marker that lists you as a 10 year supporter. Excal prime was seen by many as frivolous and unnecessary at the time, but he’s now in high demand. I get that these are just skins, but they had better hold to their vow of these being timed exclusives if that’s the intent.

[@Mephistofeles]

Oh great, and now we even have players ACTIVELY DEFENDING fomo practices, beautifull, and thanks to this now i also think zamasu did nothing wrong.

[@Ydrakar]

@@Mephistofeles please take a moment to re-read the first 4 words of this month old post.

[@Mephistofeles]

@@Ydrakar "im not defending BUUUUUUUUUUUUT" Also, time matters little here, its on the internet, its here forever, dont like it? Delete the comment.

[@Ydrakar]

@@Mephistofeles lol. It is what it is.

[@tylerprime6741]

I do agree. If they had the packs instead as something like Just the skins - $30 Skins + colour palette + sigils - *an appropriate amount extra* probably like $50 or whatever Skins + colour palette + sigils + signas + Aya and plat - $100 Basically the signas are moreso the premium thing from it for the "big spenders"

[@evilriiyone]

If they gave out 2500 to 3k plat I'd be happier, that way it's closer to a prime access bundle. Otherwise, I think the bundle is ok. I will be buying because I want to splurge on the game. I also think the high asking price is supposed to mimic the founders pack of old, something that's exclusively for the biggest fans. It does sadly hurt the fans that can't afford it however.

[@hartantoanggoro]

That pack is the equivalent of buying a Lato Prime but instead a prime set (Excal, Skana and Lato prime) you got skins.

[@hazenoxprime]

If it was equinox I would think about it but still wouldn't go for it😂

[@mycontradiction303]

They could have redesign the skill animation to make them fit the ascetic, but no...not only that they gave frost another skill in instead of a rework that's passed overdue

[@TheDoomsdayzoner]

They should've allowed purchasing for plat on these specific skinds and their Regalias. But hey, just my opinion.

[@ByteERROR404]

its funny cause the pack here in Argentina is ROUGHLY worth around 15$ IF you do as i do and buy TF2 keys with dollars from somewhere, And sell them on the market for ARS I ended up buying it for that reason

[@MiniMotoAlliance]

What did you think would happen when TenCent bought DE?

[@mdrivera8481]

Putting in plat and those other currencies to inflate the price is such an OW tactic.

[@suluhwidyotomo7942]

DE releasing 80+ usd cosmetics wasn't in my bingo, or anyone else's. I'm afraid of what's to come

[@mavoron]

supporter packs set us on this path and here we are

[@hughw2377]

I could literally buy 2 games for that price!

[@lookalike4805]

I could buy a Pre-Owned GPU for that Price... A pretty Good one too. 👀

[@dev2935]

I'd love the frost skin but a bundle is a bit much

[@filiusnoctis107]

If they would take the platinum out of the risen collection and replace it with the skins, it would be a WAY better deal

[@rena4133]

A vision of what it's coming with tencent on sight

[@GxthZuki]

I would deff grab Mag skin, it looks amazing! But the price... too much :// When I saw it, I thought it's gonna be deluxe skins or something, so was ready for the grind for plat or get a -75% coupon discount and grab it, but when I saw the price... Got very saw that they made it so expensive for just skins. Like if they wanted more money or people to spend more plat just should've made it more expensive than regular deluxe skins idk

[@sneedler5993]

I really want these skins but goddamn for those prices nah, ill buy armored core instead.

[@shamanahaboolist]

Exactly! An entire From Software game vs 2 skins... there's no competition.

[@violet_xe2728]

wait... I stopped playing warframe 3 years ago so this flew over my head but wasn't this already solved? DE got flamed by Jim Sterling way back when. How tf did this somehow sneak back into warframe?

[@jorgefernandez8404]

Happy 10th aniversary!! To celebrate, here you have an oportunity to give us more money!!!!

[@MarceloYuri]

So, from Brazil here, the pack has the same price as full AAA game... With expansions/DLC. For reference, it is almost the same price as Armored Core VI. This is NOT priced right.

[@evolved1665]

I personally wouldn't be mad if we had more skins available already in the game (other than tennogen)

[@Diver25]

i think prices differe per region...it only cost $40 here where i live...and thats the zenoth pack which give out the 2 skins, 2k plat, the heiloom stuff, and the regal

[@ec8423]

the only time i buy plat is when that 70 % or 80% discount rolls around and that aint often lol but the frost skin looks pretty nice i gotta say and yeah like you said its your wallet your call but those are exspensive

[@pavelardo2996]

They variability of pricing is so weird, in México they go for about 47 dollars

[@rebeccachambers4701]

the heirloom collection 90 should come with 5kP the 80 should also the 50 should also like 5kp ok its like 30 for the heirloom everything plus 5k of Plat which is good for about a year or otherstuff so basically you get mag and frost prime, their skins and 5k of plat or +6 regal aya if you dont wnat to spend it or have frost or mag prime already i bought Armored Core 6 for 70$ i got the deluxe cuz i like the art and music. as well they dcould always add in and give the plt to those already who bought, a

[@YoungstaJoey-j2s]

Damn that sucks really wanted that 10 year accolade badge on my profile but not worth that price.

[@100ustin5]

I feel like they were kind about the price because they want to raise up money for another organization, not only that but they have regal aya which people don’t care about but it is there not only that but you’re getting EXCLUSIVE stuff and two very cool skins it is unavailable for some people who really want it but again it’s a supporter pack

[@mateuszreszka3033]

The worst thing is that even log in discount doesn't work on this Heirloom pack... I was hoping to get it after receiving -75%...

[@johnnysea9921]

Frost has been my main frame since his prime was first introduced, I normally am a sucker for expensive dlcs, but even both of those are not enough to look like a good deal to even me

[@Mephistofeles]

specially because this is not a "dlc", it doenst add now content, new weapons or new frames, its just a skin.

[@d.l.j.vanturnhout2344]

Jup have to agree on that one the new reveals are awesome and the skins look beautiful. But when I read the prices it is ridiculously expensive for what we are getting. Maybe I could justify buying it to myself if: 1: I was a mag or frost main 2: Or a collector of skins and warframes. I am the latter of those 2 but even then it is still too expensive. With how much they are asking I usually buy groceries for 4 people for a week or buy multiple games. This is too much money to ask for what we are getting. The fomo is real but I will endure until the prices drop or maybe they will never drop and it will be the same as the founder package. Damnit wish I had that one but it was a different time back then. Ow well ancient history. Looking forward to the future.

[@Captain_vangray]

hey Nova can your next frame video be about kullervo i know it's a grindy warframe but it's fun to play and easy to learn, also I do agree i looked at those skins and was like no way in sam hell for those prices

[@Male_Parent]

Yeah... I mean I still bought it but like fucking hell like $90... 😳 I wish I could've bought the color pallet and skins separately for way cheaper. It sucked too when Octavia Prime released because I wished there was another way to get the exclusive shawzin without paying. But I still ended up still paying because the other accessories and boosters included. Boy it sure does suck that I'm a collector.

[@iForeverImmature]

even my compulsive buying disorder said no

[@huskonetap]

With that price we better get the primes fully built and upgraded with the skins and plat

[@Blaze1337]

I would love to get the Heirloom Skins and attachments but not at that fucking price.

[@Clown_the_Clown]

Not only are the packs overpriced, but the rewards from the Recall the Ten Zero were incredibly underwhelming. This is the 10 year celebration, it should be something grand, a celebration for the community, not an excuse to milk people dry.

[@cosmicdragon9237]

I even forget about the missions-

[@Clown_the_Clown]

@@cosmicdragon9237 Don't worry, most of it was glyphs and a few noggles. You honestly didn't miss much.

[@xeon2757]

@@Clown_the_Clown I honestly only did the wolf sledge mission week and didnt even touch the other weeks because of how lackluster they were

[@Clown_the_Clown]

@@xeon2757 I did every single one, as even though it was just a redeemer skin, I wanted it. Then the end came and I didn't even get it.

[@cosmicdragon9237]

@@Clown_the_Clown I think nobody got the skin actually

[@yuuenjuro]

I find it weird with everyone saying you dont have to buy it and it doesn't effect you. When we all play a game with "fashion is end game" is a very popular saying

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

I think they should include the primes as well, otherwise I’m not against it.

[@RoyalTfrii]

And the other issue is that you don't even get at least base mag and frost with the bundle meaning that if you dont have the warframes or the slots to get the warframes then the entire pack is pointless

[@divinefox4306]

Regal aya pays for both of the primes

[@shotgunammo]

small misinformation, you mention that the accessoiries are exclusive to mag and frost, the stignas can be used on ALL frames.

[@stormsoul3162]

I really want the skins and signas and im fortunate enough where the money does not bother me to much the only reason why i havent bought a pack yet is because the prices make zero sense if they include 2000 plat i can mantally justify buying the 60 dollar version even though i dont really need the plat. Or atleast some slots and boosters. Right now it feels like a donation towards de but no raids means no donations XD

[@cosmicdragon9237]

I just want to buy the mag skin with my farmed plat, thanks DE

[@wafflecopter9296]

Lmao i got an ad for the skins right before the video

[@doootheytho9821]

What makes this situation weirder for me is that it happened under Rebs watch as shes usually more for the fair monetizing. This just feels like a straight up gink, ngl

[@PurpleWukong21]

Everyone is outraged by the pricing of the heirloom packs while im still wondering if anyone will speak out about the platinum/regal aya issue?

[@personperson1254]

I have to pay $90 for less than what I’d get from a prime access without the accessories😢

[@darkumineru1681]

all they needed to was mimic the unvaulting price minus 5-10 usd and we will have had little problems with solo pack and dual and a extra for smaller stuff like prime excess has these skins are actually just "prime but not the stats" no weapons and u dont get the frame made not much problems for me tho has its optional and i like the mag one and dont hate the frost (and actually enjoy the frost skin for circuit) i feel they should have had 60 day boosters just to ease the price but not something i care for and i am willing to look past if only they had solo packs (maybe even have it be 30usd for just headpiece and skin nothing ells)

[@redmdlee]

prices for my region are around 35 USD, im from SEA so could definitely be lower for the rest

[@CG-_-]

If you do the math for the value of each item individually and add it together your only losing 13.6$ USD in value from the full thing

[@ohchaos]

I hope this is not where DE start to change like Ubisoft

[@FluffyWing07]

Seems like they test how far they can go. Instead of fixing many bugs we get new weapons. Then we get incarnons being purchaseble. Now these ridiculous prices. They will continue, if we as a community, proceed buying into it.

[@Dac85]

For me the FOMO aspect is the worst. Like someone can save up the cash eventually if they're strapped - if you started playing after this then you're *fucked*.

[@neephty7762]

Now the new ones are for plat and will be always in the shop. Cool

[@Solkard]

I look at this as a Founder’s pack 2.0. But rather than give a variant frame like Excalibur Prime, they’re offering exclusive skins that can be put on frames you actually use. I would expect these skins to never be available again. Now let’s see all the people who complained about missing out on Excalibur Prime put up.

[@DawnAfternoon]

You get WAY more value in Founder's Pack than you do Heirloom Bundle lol With 100$ Founder Pack you can get 3.2k platinum along with Excal Prime (both exclusive frame and exclusive skin) and Skana Prime With 90$ Heirloom you only get two exclusive skins, 600 platinums and 6 Regal Aya, not even close to the same value Founder's Pack offers

[@MythicalWatcher]

I better be able to buy loki separately. They know people are blind enough ro buy them so they're probably just going to ignore the issue and keep releasing them. Maybe maybe they'll release a fake apology, but if they dont actually fix their shit, then it means nothing. And shouldn't have happened in the first place