November Lightspeed Bundle Value Explained in SWGOH

[@holgertd4464]

”I really need to upgrade my Imperial Troopers who were not required for any other character“ has been on my list for ages. Glad that’s history now.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Noice

[@brycethomas4290]

Same, I needed Gideon and dark Trooper to finish/modernize my imperial Trooper line up but it just hasn't been a priority working on Gl leia and some conquest teams. Honestly the only imp Trooper i had done without the pack is range trooper

[@edzomuljo]

Ah yes, my favourite spreadsheet pay to play collector game

[@celestialbeez7024]

🙂‍↕️ hmph

[@nathandsouza4716]

5 videos in 6 days! Calvin is on a roll. Great to have you back man

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's good to be back!

[@Cameron-pf8yh]

Calvin I think the LSBs tell a story. I have a sneaky feeling the next raid is going to require mercenaries and imperial remnants. Why? "Chewie bundle" characters no one uses to get chewie. "R2D2 bundle" no one uses these characters for R2 "All Hans" meme in disguise. What do they have in common? All characters are mercs and imp remnant. I won't be surprised if CG announce the raid that requires them and then say "Hey we gave them to you" Kindof like what they did with the Naboo jedi bundle

[@CalvinAwesome]

Very well could be. Would make sense for them to release them after the raid units are announced to encourage direct spending. But they can rerelease them too

[@cosmo9925]

The bounty hunters were also mostly ones we haven’t already gotten, but they also didn’t want to give away too many Jabba requirements or IG-88 for the executor, so we just got all the weird ones to fill out the bounty hunter faction.

[@DarthCodimus]

Didn't the jedi bundle actually say in the description it would help with the raid tho? I feel like that was why i bought it

[@Cameron-pf8yh]

They did say that. After they announced the raid requirements and the community very politely pointed out how inaccessible they were for new players

[@DarthCodimus]

@@Cameron-pf8yh nah i just looked at it on google lol while it didn't specifically use the word "raid", it did say bring your jedi allies to help in naboo, which at that point had already been announced as the upcoming raid. So it was actually common sense those toons would be useful in the raid.

[@khaydarian9704]

Great break down! I've been waiting for an R2-D2 lsb, but I figured it'd be a disguised SEE bundle. I'm pretty happy with imperial remnant too though!

[@Lionpride97]

Still waiting for that Aphra lightspeed. Cant be bothered to sidetrack and go get her with all these new character reqs

[@aquiluus357]

Young Han is needed for ROTE Mission as well.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Technically I suppose

[@herohour6496]

And for the Falcon

[@cassdobbins1605]

The Voltr-HAN cometh!

[@myaccount5834]

The JML bundle is an amazing value…. If I didn’t have everyone at those relic levels already.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Yep, that's how it works

[@myaccount5834]

All of the LSB’s are an amazing value. If you can take one sub-G12 toon to Relic 5 for 10-15 dollars, it is a good deal. If you can relic toons for 5-10 bucks a piece, it is an absolute steal. Think about your time value and how long it takes to grind these toons.

[@TheFloon]

As someone who had just finished JML and was about to finally pull the plug on bringing up Dark Trooper past the kyro wall so I could get more AB's done (and has Gideon at g8 as well), this was perfectly timed. If only it had Stark and Veers in it for SEE!

[@urzzz]

Great breakdown! Picked up, JTR, BB8 and R2!

[@CalvinAwesome]

For the Hall!

[@herohour6496]

did you pick up the Starkooler one? It is very good

[@urzzz]

@ someone kindly gifted it to me!

[@TehKarmalizer]

I’m just waiting impatiently for the eventual Inquisitors bundle. It would save sooo much time farming kyros and signal data even just to R5.

[@joespencer3753]

Same here man, not sure how long we’ll have to wait tho is the problem

[@cosmo9925]

Glad my Guild is still a little too weak to do ROTE at the moment, so I’m not being forced into farming inquisitors yet, but if the bundle is here in the next couple months when we do get there, ya boy is gonna be ready lmao

[@cosmo9925]

@@joespencer3753 Fr, like is it gonna be December, or next June? lmao

[@joespencer3753]

@@cosmo9925I think honestly either Christmas (probably too soon) or they’ll drop it for may the fourth (more likely)

[@dustinzhane7329]

I don't think they're going to do that any time soon

[@vaeleksk8252]

CALVIN'S EXCEL IS GOING TO MELT HIS COMPUTER AT THIS RATE!

[@CalvinAwesome]

Worth it

[@ThatJREGuy]

ah yes hello calvin its me roganclips these intros make me smile please keep them up

[@CalvinAwesome]

Sup Rogan

[@vaeleksk8252]

I would like to slightly correct Cavlin that Bigs and Wedge are being used in a MM/Luthen team. Which just came out.

[@CalvinAwesome]

I mean you can use them there, but they're not the ideal comp

[@myaccount5834]

The R2-D2 bundle is an incredible value…. if I didn’t already farm those troopers to Relic 5 for the Endor raid.

[@antoniosanta74]

I'm getting the Han one (trooper and young) and the troopers one (saved me the trouble of upping the death trooper), so I can reroute the kyro and relic mats they require to the new folks.

[@CalvinAwesome]

There ya go

[@lucasdanski1446]

Oh my God, that intro, laughing so hard I'm crying

[@Ray-bn1ry]

The spreadsheet king!🙌🏼

[@CalvinAwesome]

Back at it again!

[@TheKingOfAll02]

Let’s go spreadsheets! Amazing video as always, thanks for always breaking everything down!

[@CalvinAwesome]

You got it!

[@wnapolitan1773]

I wish R2 was more like BB8 bundle, where you'd get a whole faction of characters rather than just 5 of them. I'm not paying 20$ to promote shore and range from g12 to r5, but I would do it if there also were guys like basic stormtrooper, magma, maybe Iden, snowtrooper etc.

[@herohour6496]

Duz Rogue One have a Light Spead Bundle? I would need to feature Jin and all those Rogue One figures. They are so hard to relic and Omega.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Not that I know of no

[@taillspin2419]

Such a smug intro, love it.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol glad you liked it

[@winterblink8495]

I'm sitting on a OG HanS on G12. I was really tempted to take the shortcut, but tbh for one character I actually need to pay 25bucks.. nah... Would be a different story, if I hadn't bought him from the raid token store yet though. The "JML" pack has the benefit of containing a very "expensive" character (Hermit Yoda) and I'm missing quite some of the characters in it (Mon Mothma, ChewPO on G11, ...) 🤔 (And R2D2 is a nobrainer)

[@sir_charles_iii5154]

Miss the shards we got before for previously collected units. 😢

[@CalvinAwesome]

I don't think we ever got those through LSB

[@osirisianplays8089]

thank you for breaking down the packs 🙂❤

[@CalvinAwesome]

You got it!

[@lyensden]

Young han is required for ROTE, so it's more than just a meme

[@CalvinAwesome]

I mean I guess?

[@bodigames]

well if you are doing ROTE you most likely got all the other hans build up anyway? seems like a waste of money to buy the pack just for young han alone

[@sakisaotome6753]

Day 1 Rey was not actually possible unless you already had raddus. Because your need a 5 star raddus and the raddus bundle just fulfills the requirements. You would need to wait until the event rules around just to unlock it. Then either spend boat loads of money to replay the mission to get more shards or wait a few months to collect enough shards to upgrade to 5 stars

[@CalvinAwesome]

Oh that's true

[@sakisaotome6753]

@CalvinAwesome yeah it took me months to actually get Rey just because of that stupid ship

[@Trashpanda65x]

I thought the BB-8 bundle was considered the worst buy compared to the SLKR and Finalizer bundles in terms of value in the later two ?

[@cosmo9925]

Compared to the SLKR pack, it’s terrible value, but looking at it in a vacuum, it’s very good value regardless. I think he left out the SLKR pack because he said he’s only covering ones that are currently available.

[@CalvinAwesome]

If you compare it to the SLKR pack that isn't available at the same time it's the worst way of doing things. But since they're not active at the same time it's still amazing

[@ИгорьГорелов-ы4п]

If i didn't have only Mon Mothma left, I'd buy JML bundle in a heartbeat.

[@batmanwins5701]

The shadows bundle was.so much better value and it got me close enough to jml that I got him shortly after .

[@ThePyre666]

I still have ptsd because of mon mothma grind

[@lewisallan7696]

@@ThePyre666it’s not that bad try gungans 🤣

[@ThePyre666]

​@lewisallan7696 I'm doing them rn it's not that bad... but mon mothma with the old game system (raid/store) I think I've dunked 50$ just to finish one of the g12 equipment cuz it was so long to do and she was my last req also

[@THEEKrisadkins]

Hey Calvin, with the BB-8 LSB, should we just wait for a SLKR LSB and/or Finalizer LSB? Seems like they are re-releasing all of the older LSBs

[@CalvinAwesome]

If we knew that for certain then we should wait. I just don't wanna tell anyone that and then the LSB doesn't actually come back for a year

[@TimProVision]

Probably the first LSB I am not getting. A lot of overlap with previous LSB's and I already am so far behind in Zetas 😅

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol that is a legitimate reason. They don't help the zeta crunch at all

[@adsoto87]

Okay I'm getting the Gideon pack!

[@CalvinAwesome]

Get it!

[@sk8n854]

Any word on Geos coming back? Don't feel like building them half way and then the bundle showing up

[@CalvinAwesome]

I'm not sure

[@NateDogg-i4u]

Smugg Calvin is great

[@CalvinAwesome]

Glad you thought so 😅

[@73edg]

Not available in store just yet. I have JML so can save money on that one. It justifies buying the Han pack which I don’t need but also don’t want to miss out on. R2 pack is a must have.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Should be sometime today

[@andreasbillepetersen6786]

I find the R2D2 to be the better option of the two (R2D2 vs. JML), as we have previously had a Rebel LSB overlapping with the JML pack, but with more value for money (as far as I remember).

[@CalvinAwesome]

Good point

[@danang5]

the worse part of the JML LSB is that alot of it overlap with the Palpatine/Thrawn LSB

[@CalvinAwesome]

I can see that

[@MrMainolfs92]

Hey im returning to the game, do you have the same info for all the others LSB?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Not in one consolidated place no, I could probably get a playlist going though

[@Sweetllew]

Mm is good with biggs combo. If you picked up others can give her a decent team. I think Old Ben double dips somewhere else or is good on several teams being star,Jedi,rebel. Hoda is good for JKR teams just let the other Jedi hit harder

[@fiole666]

When the new packs will be released ? I can't see the IT in shop

[@CalvinAwesome]

It should be sometime today

[@TehKarmalizer]

I would guess it may be with the 11:15 Pacific update.

[@andrewwilson9123]

They are out now

[@sameergoyal6357]

What is your thought on JML pavk value if I’ve already gotten the previous rebel bundle that had the whole phoenix team plus biggs, wedge, old ben, princess leia, etc. but on relic 3

[@CalvinAwesome]

It probably maintains most of its value still. MM and 3pac are the kyro heavy ones

[@JadusMoltriel]

I'm going to be buying the LSBs, but I have a question. I have Luthen unlocked, but I probably won't have him in relics for awhile. The LSB will grant me Mon Mothma, and I have Kyle Katarn, Cara Dune, and Biggs in relics and decently modded. Would that team, with a non-relic Luthen, be good on defense in Aurodium 2? I normally don't set non-relic toons on defense, because I build max Datacrons, re-rolled and all, for every team on def and offense, but I know there are some teams that can still hold value without a datacron, like my g12 Zorri, who gets as many holds as many of my top datacron defenses, lol. If it IS worth it, how many zetas and omis would be necessary to make it worth it, between Mon Mothma and Luthen? I believe Mon Mothma has 2 potential zetas, Luthen has 1, and Luthen has 3 potential omis. Would I need to apply all 3 of those zetas, or if not, which can I ignore? And for Luthen's omis, which one is mandatory, is there a second one that's worth the cost, and which should I absolutely not apply? Remember, this is for a Mon Mothma led team, not a Saw lead, since my Saw is not reliced yet either, although he's on my list. Thanks!

[@CalvinAwesome]

So I'm not well versed in what counters people have in Auro 2 but basically any non luthen team for MM on defense is gonna get rocked by Iden if your opponents have that. As far as Luthen omis go, unique first if you're set on giving him one

[@JadusMoltriel]

​@@CalvinAwesome Um, I never said I planned to place a "non Luthen" Mon Mothma team. I'm either going to build a MM team WITH Luthen, or I'm not going to bother with MM/ rebel fighters at all. I was just wondering how good a MM team with a non-reliced Luthen is, assuming everyone else besides Luthen IS reliced.

[@mgm3649]

I'm trying to get back into the game, I quit back when relics came out so I have only 3 characters with relics. I have all of the characters in the c3po and JTR bundles at gear 12. Will these bundles be agood idea just to avoid the hassle of gearing and getting up to relic 5 for the GLs? I was always f2p so I'm apprehensive about spending.

[@CalvinAwesome]

So most of the value is the 100 kyro it takes to g13 and then the relic materials. So LSB do have a lot of value for you. These may not be the best ones for you, but they're certainly good

[@mgm3649]

@CalvinAwesome Thanks man. The information in your videos is awesome, it has helped me a lot to somewhat understand the game again.

[@ILTP69420]

Only one I need is the R2 one and it’ll finally give me a reason to relic and zeta Veers

[@CalvinAwesome]

Dew it

[@hampter8992]

7:43 i got called out lmao

[@CalvinAwesome]

In love 😅

[@Ren10do]

Is the R2 bundle worth if you already have R2? Don’t have any imperial troopers farmed so are the troopers worth it as standalone units?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Yes, it's really not an R2 pack.

[@themastema1189]

If it was a Kenobi one I'd consider, maybe even a Jabba LSB, other than that, meh But fantastic spreadsheet Calvin!!

[@TheMM1215]

Im getting the JML pack just for Y-wing and Mon Mothma.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Bet

[@clashmastergaming242]

What time does the bundles come out today?

[@cosmo9925]

Probably sometime between 1-4 hours from now

[@CalvinAwesome]

Not sure exactly, I believe events server has the exact hour

[@kevinbarraza5821]

I missed it in the vid, when they drop?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Sometime later today

[@Skadibala]

Originally wanted the R2D2 but I think i will leave it alone and level up and iden team from scratch so I can use some time and save up zetas from earlier LSBs. I’m starved for Zetas 😅

[@CalvinAwesome]

Zeta crunch is real

[@mike.armstrong92]

I feel like not accounting for all the either get1 or mk2 hoda given to you saves really isn't fair to the jml pack that's a massive part of the jml packs value making it far and away the best value of the new packs we've seen in these couple of months

[@CalvinAwesome]

I feel like ever since they allowed hoda to be farmed with MK2 that value has become a lot less relevant.

[@gls888]

No scout... 3pO lsb so broken

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol it's weird for sure

[@ChessWithJoee]

Do you just do KZbin for a living or is it a side job

[@CalvinAwesome]

Definitely a side job

[@davidlennihan6536]

Do you mean JKLS

[@CalvinAwesome]

At some point probably

[@Xinperor]

I don't feel like spending money on this game anymore :/

[@CalvinAwesome]

Then I would advise not doing so 😁

[@brandonmurphy4539]

I think there a better cheaper rebel bundle earlier this year

[@nellisadam9037]

Idk i dont like that lsb are getting more expensive also luke's character are included in other packs a lot cheaper like palpatine's so idk hans and r2 are good but i would only pay what they qre asking if both bundles were together lmao

[@demortred]

All hans is for gl han😊

[@CalvinAwesome]

Camo vest Han incoming

[@daesz]

good thing i watched the vid, 3po pack looked tempting to me to get cuz i have zeta AND omi on my chirpa (the ewoks are g9 across the board with g11 elder and i have 3po 7*), but meh - a skip now :) edt. you need young han at r6 for RotE combat (or was it special?) mission, the pack is still a scam

[@batmanwins5701]

The JML and Hans bundles.are the most skippable bundles they have released.. thet have less value than the Shadows bundle from my non-mathematical evaluation.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Apparently there is a ton of overlap

[@staxe366]

Maybe the Han bundle is a little foreshadowing of the next GL. We have 3 of the original trilogy main characters with luke and leia. I would really like to see a Han GL. Most people who's bought all the lsb should already have JML. I think I only had to relic like 4 or 5 characters for him.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Could be

[@marcelopendola9701]

buena choro

[@tatooinenative860]

I’ve never spent a dime on this game, and I’ve been playing since about a year after launch, but I bought the bb8 lightspeed cuz the value was too good to pass up

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's insane honestly

[@tatooinenative860]

@ literally the only thing id need to farm is first order capital ship and get old geezer Han to relic 3 and id be set to start doing slkr battles lol

[@terrorhuhn9192]

greed taking over.. istead of buying, i'm quitting. lol.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Have a good one!

[@terrorhuhn9192]

@CalvinAwesome you too, thanks for the good time tho, keep it up

[@CalvinAwesome]

May the force be with you

[@gangstersnow]

i did a different version of this math myself (cough cough chatgpt) i compared the signal data from the packs, to how much signal data you can farm from the crystals in a 20 dollar pack. because way more people buy that then the vaults. just my reasoning. but the signal data for the han pack, which is the reason i did this, to justify the pack because im just buying the pack for raid han. if only 1 r6 han is in the pack, its still a better value than buying 20 dollars worth of crystals (just barley) when using all of the crystals only on cantina refreshes. the crystal pack ends up being 508.18 Fragmented signal data equivalents (all signal data equated to its relative value with fragmented signal data) and 1 character in the han pack is 541.85 Fragmented equivalents. also the only pack i was for sure going to get, ended up being the only pack im not getting, which is the r2d2 pack, given how all of the lsb's have been , there will be a better pack down the road with the same characters. there is a scummy amount of overlap in these packs to make people mentally inflate the value seeing more characters, and the second time the pack comes around in a different form, is always better than the first. so im waiting on my imperial troopers until the next time they come around even though i only have piet at relics.