Now Harley Ripped Off Indian... Road Glide CVO ST

My opinion and thoughts on the new 2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide CVO ST.
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[@badbruise]

I’d go with the Honda

[@Donfleebie1]

I’m thinking of Goldwing to replace what might be my last of 5 Harleys.

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

I've watched nearly 2 dozen reviews from all the popular KZbinrs and I swear they are all over-hyping the new SG and RG. I haven't seen them or ridden them.. but I did see and sit on the 2023 CVO at Sturgis last year and I wasn't super impressed. I still feel like you're getting way more bang for your buck with an Indian Chieftain or Challenger. As for the Goldwing.. I refuse to ride one for fear that once you ride a wing.. you'll never go back. lol.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

The goldwing is rad and I consider it the "wise man's" choice. But I still see the appeal to harley and Indian. Different personality and character depending what one digs. 💯🤘

[@flavp5]

My 15 year old victory vision has a power windshield heated everything stereo 106 ci engine and with a few mod has 115 HP and 120 torque all for what the wheels and exhaust cost on that CVO

[@cbrippee]

And my 14 Victory Cross Country has 115 and 115 and this is at the wheels, not the crank. However I did add a 501 cam , Lloydz Hi flo filter, and Maximus ECU dyno tune, however that only cost about 1800 dollars. The twin cam supsensions and handling at that time could not compare to my Victory nor the early M8s. I am not sure about Honda Goldwings doing well on the bagger circuit as the Road Glides and Challengers are reaching speeds above 170 mph. But I bet the Honda Techs given the same amount of money spent on the baggers developments could succeed. I have a friend that went to Harley dealership in Lousiana, maybe Shreveport area to buy a new Harley 2023 model Low Rider ST. With all included up charges for this and that and of course tax and title it came to 29,476 dollars. He walked away. So I bet once you buy this new CVO Road Glide as is, you will be looking at above 50k.

[@xclent1975]

💯

[@519_jackpot_scottie]

I think that would be interesting to see the Goldwing on the track with Harley & Indian.

[@mk-zj6bk]

Allow me to chime in here with an update on the Buell Super Cruiser. 1,190 cc V - Twin developing 175 HP / 101 Pounds Feet Torque. MSRP: $25,000 - $30,000 Booking Fee: $50.00 120 million dollar pre-order which translates to 240,000 interested customers. Set for 2025 production - more “American made” than HD & Indian. Prototype will be available at “Big D” - Daytona Florida Bike Week, March 1 - 10. My money is on Buell!

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I'm looking forward to the Buell!

[@xclent1975]

Still too much money 💰

[@johnbruce1052]

You are spot on! Harley has the name, that's it. Guys that are into them will only buy them, no matter what. It doesn't matter how it performs. The thing that gets me is that at most Harley dealers, the salesman don't even ride motorcycles. Huntington Beach Harley is a prime example, they just hire high pressure sales guys that really know nothing about motorcycles in general. I love all bikes, Harley included, but they are overpriced and under performing compared to most other bikes, but they sound amazing! Always appreciate your opinion an honesty. Disregard the haters

[@rbljackson]

Totally agree with you. That new CVO Road Glide st looks like the Indian...PERIOD! I have ridden a VTX1800 since they came out in 02, and when it came out it was THE big boy on the block for CC's. Just behind the VMax and the Valk in performance (straight line)....yeah it doesnt handle corners as well.....this is true.. And that bike was NO where near the price of these CVO's, Its just gotten insane.

[@jvc350]

No, Indian copied Harley. Harley was the first too have fairing back in the 60's. There's no need to copy Indian.

[@Jordan-0692]

​@@jvc350 lol exactly

[@Donfleebie1]

Indian is a relatively new player on the scene. Sure Indian was 1901, but they took a 50 year hiatus until they were resurrected by Polaris.

[@warsane1]

Always love your vids.

[@freeride6441]

I love all bikes and had many, best handling bike i ever rode and owned was Honda CBR1000 2008 and i still ordered a CVO ST can't wait..

[@wiliturk1496]

Wow!! You vindicated my thoughts exactly. I test rode a new CVO ST and it reminded me of a Gold Wing more than a Harley. The power and handling is way more responsive than my 2019 CVO Road Glide. While I was riding it the first bike to come to my mind was the newest generation Gold Wing. I doubt that HD used the Gold Wing as an inspiration but it did surprise me. I guess I’m a sucker because I did trade.

[@GearHeadMoto]

100% Agree with ya. I'd take the Challenger if I could afford any of the 3.

[@RJSerp]

Even though I’m a Harley rider, I’m glad you included the Gold Wing in this comparison. It’s almost an ST straight from the factory for 14k less 💵💰! Of coarse Harley & Indian are mush cooler bikes! Excellent video!!

[@EverythingsStraight]

Bro can you make a video of the fastest cruisers you've rode in your experience what's your top few

[@brianreynolds188]

I’ve had many Harley’s and 2 Cvo my next bike will be a Honda gold wing ! Totally over Harley and Indian just doesn’t have good fit and finish !

[@themuddywolf5794]

In 2004, Kawasaki Vulcan had 125 cubic inches with 115 horses and 130 torque before exhaust and intake mods...in 2004. Just sayin'

[@xclent1975]

And in 2009 Yamaha had a 113 ci Raider producing over 124 ft lbs of torque and 100 hp stock for $14k

[@richardvasconcelos4683]

I really love having pink slip's in my pocket,My old school 97 Honda Valkrie & my 2002 VTX 1800R is all I need,You can't go wrong with a Gold Wing,But,a few of these new motorcycles are a little too pricy,love all motorcycle's,Spazz in Cali.

[@rbljackson]

Yep....ive owned the VTX1800C since it came out in 02. LOVE LOVE LOVE that bike! What a value. Paid 13k and change, and 22 years later, its still in the game! And the sexiest front end/headlight style IMO.

[@MeanOldBastardBikerBob]

BMW K16oo B

[@lawnranger3432]

100% agree on the K1600

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I've yet to ride one but dig the look and imagine they're a ton of fun!

[@CactusJack252]

If I was to buy a brand new touring bike today. The Goldwing would be my choice.

[@jimramsey8020]

This is like an oil discussion, pick the bike you like and ride. And for what it's worth wouldn't be any of the three. Would be cool to see Goldwing in the race.

[@2kanchoo]

I agree with the exposed carbon. Looks cheap and garbage to me like an unpainted piece of plastic. Especially with how nice the rest of the cvo paint jobs are. And the price for sure. Here in canada after you finish building it with the seat, bars, you'd need to make it decently comfortable, and the exhaust I couldn't live without changing, I'd be into it for over 60k. Maybe if I win the lottery. The goldwing might perform better but I just can't get over the looks. It will never not look like a bike a 70 year old rides to me.

[@lawnranger3432]

Looks are subjective,....I don't own a GW, but I feel the new GW's look modern and sporty. On the other hand, the harleys look pretty much the same as they did 40 years ago. The average person off the street that is not into motorcycles would probably not notice much difference.

[@djjmplus3]

The Goldwing is the best bike ever made.and the new wing's are even better.

[@brettcreech3490]

I think the new Road Glide looks like the Challenger. I thank with the suspension the Gold Wing would take it.

[@lawnranger3432]

Both the RG and the Challenger look like they chopped off the front of a car and stuck it on a motorcycle. The fairings are HUGE!!

[@Hipporider]

I can speak for the Challenger/Pursuit fairing. It works really well 🇦🇺​@@lawnranger3432

[@Bass.Player]

Goldwing is hard to beat. Harley sounds better.

[@upsidedowndog1256]

Goldwing. Because someone needs to carry tools to fix the other bikes! Seriously, it would be cool to see one racing with the other baggers.

[@tomcampbell8931]

I said the same thing about them designing it to look like the challenger. Of course die hard Harley guys and the dealership say the don’t look alike

[@TheMetalmachine467]

I can whip past a 24 cvo on my 2018 Fatboy with 128 big bore because the 2024 cvo has a speed limiter 101 mph

[@zozoa1]

I just don’t get buying a Cruiser and want crazy performance. I have a R1 for that and a Yamaha Raider to cruise. I can buy both of these for half the price of the ST. Is it me or am I completely missing the point if so I apologise.

[@Hipporider]

So did HD have the wisdom to copy the adjustable height windscreen of the Indian? Such a shame they didn't as it is a very good idea, I use the screen height adjustment all the time. Everyone wins if these different designers take the good features off the competition

[@R3N1R3N]

Yeah bro it's super stupid expensive. I'm still waiting for the Japanese companies to come back with muscle cruisers in the United States for half the price so I can get a bike that's worth the trouble

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Can you imagine a modern/newly designed vtx 1800?

[@julioortiz1813]

I buy Road glide for the looks, knowing the Goldwing is better bike and better buy. That's Road Glide is pretty.😂

[@sdot5778]

CVO ST al day every day

[@Kriscosmic]

I like motorcycles just as much as the next guy but when they start asking for more than 25k for a bike it starts getting a bit ridiculous. You could buy a brand new nice car for what they want the new cvo’s for

[@johnlucas8924]

The gold wing is king bagger

[@Losangelesmotorcycles]

You know its not Jonny, NO indian no Yammie . Keep ripping tho

[@johnlucas8924]

113 to rear wheel

[@mireliomarzo6468]

♠️$55,000 out the door with mark up for a Chinesse bike built in America.

[@bryanfrederick6384]

All the Big Baggers are starting to look the Same Roadking is the Tour Standard for Me I want to Get Away from Everyone an Everything when I'm riding my Two Cents

[@butchpolen]

I Reed the title and had to watch. I wanted to blast you out. I thought you were going to blast harley. You boosted them. You know you love them because it's a HARLEY! 2024... wow. Give it to them. They did GOOOOD!!!

[@kenster007]

Most manufacturers are guilty of copying HD styling one way or another, great looking bike.

[@lalo4406]

Goldwing would win that's why they don't ket them run in the bagger series

[@Spikeg7]

As nice as some Harleys are, I'd never own it as a primary bike. There are way too many better ways to spend my dollar.

[@dynabob4980]

Prices are outrageous, and I'm not big on the looks compared to the previous year road glide, bit id still take the harley over the indian or honda

[@jimrhoads9075]

I love my CVO, it's what you like to ride. Has plenty of power and lots of new tech.

[@leonardpiggie9243]

Agreed but Harley style and momentum is hard to beat, Harley culture is better than both others

[@GiancarloBenzina]

I ride Indian and I see no single point of indin ripped off by Harley. The Harley RG (didn’t ride ST CVO) has nothing from the Indian and more power from the ST CVO isn’t a rip off of Indian either. The base engine, let alone the bigger engine have zero resemblance to the Indians, just a different engine in all character. The chassis, while architecture is stone-old over aged, they threw in all they had (not much in std. version) to keep up with Indian, and they kind of do, aside from the shorter dragging rear that is just plain sheit on bumps. HD’s bag Lid’s are flimsy and have always been and so Harley tries to narrow into Indian’s subpar cockpit covers with cheap plastic either, the cockpit digital display is a step ahead of Indian, but I wonder how practical it is in active use. So no rip-off of Indian, more so of the HD customers and while so a big improvement to the last model - a must buy in Harley Culture, certainly not for anyone who already has a big twin Indian bagger.

[@m.f.m.67]

When I first saw a picture of one, I thought it WAS an Indian! The last few model years, Harley sure has been hitting their bikes with the ugly stick.

[@ArneAsada69]

In this order, I’d do the Gold Wing, Indian, and then the way overpriced Harley.

[@ArizonaBeardedBiker]

All I got to say is... WHO CAME OUT WITH THE FIXED FAIRING FIRST??? OH that's right... SO... Who copied who???

[@JonsMotoGarage]

This is true. 👍💯

[@nomad74777]

you look like you can hardly keep your eyes open. Get some rest man.

[@hydroboy35th]

Uhhh, Indian copied Harley lol.

[@CaptainFeathersword]

Harley continues to use patriotism and heritage to justify its pricing. It is still working for them, however they are on borrowed time.

[@jorgecgonzalez9976]

Dude do your homework, Harley invented the bagger including the Road Glide

[@MegaBailey67]

Exactly 👍

[@GMAN0444]

Watch Matt Laidlaw and his video on the 2024 streetglide. It’s the one about 33min long He gives the history and how every other manufacturer ripped off Harley and its ferring

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I'll check it out! 🤙💯

[@louisgiardina8918]

I remember when Polaris ripped off the street glide fairing and installed them on the Polaris chieftain because their original fairing was hideous so who copied who

[@ixibladeixi2639]

Denial, jelous, hate and lack of knowledge of what Harley is all about. Trying to sound fair, but deep inside another jelous and Harley hater. There's a reason why millions of fans and owners own HDs. Just like the Jeep Wranglers, can't compare them to anything. They have their own special place that nothing can even level with. It has nothing to do with how fast or slow...the spirit of it that no brands out there will never have. If you can't afford it, stick with other brands. Massive amount of loyal owners will still find a way to buy the brand. Harley is America. Accept it, admire it and continue the jelousy. It makes the brand even stronger. U.S. grown, king of baggers.....There's only one! Ooops that's actually for Wranglers lol.

[@mareksamel5334]

People are talking about it quite often, like yeah, let there race Honda Goldwimg or BMW GTL and both Harley and Indian will be left in dust... Really ? They are both highly sofisticated race bikes ( whih have nearly nothing to do with serial bikes ) and which are doing only 4 sec a lap or so worse time than 1000cc Supersports. So do you think - in any race spec. - that Goldwing or BMW GTL would easilly beat even those Supersports, like would be faster than them ? I dont think so...

[@FreeSmoke911]

Imagine trying to convince a girl that you drive a motorcycle and it’s a Honda Gold wing 😂😂😂😂

[@jimyounger9490]

Yeah Harley ripped off Indian , oh brother , you guys will say anything to make a video. You guys are joke. Don’t buy it , it’s terrible , no good. Ride Honda you’ll be happy. Stay off Harley. Honda rules. Please enjoy Honda and leave Harley for “ whoever “.

[@jims2311]

who cares

[@bcherry1970]

You should simply Google a few things before you say things that sound ignorant. King of baggers bikes are 170hp ish and 400lbs on the track. You also leave Harleys aftermarket out as a factor. Google