B737-400 Cold Dark Start

[@NT0M]

Mark, I have completely retired at this point. I have flown for 8 airlines and wrenched for 8 airlines. Did a stint teaching aviation at a Technical College as a way of paying back all the guys who gave so much for my training. As an aside, while watching this video, I noticed I was breathing pretty hard. As I remember, the ground guys and I just shoved a 500 lb main tire into the aft pit and then I was late getting this 737 warmed up for the crew. I am pretty old now (65) and have never smoked, still walk in the morning, so I guess I’ll make it a while longer. Hope everyone enjoys the video. Sorry for the quality but equipment gets better all the time... Tom Bond Kansas City

[@itz_ivogameryt5937]

Nice!! You did well :)

[@realomon]

You did great. Thanks.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

Damn… I wonder how many of those airlines still exist, and how many kinds of aircraft you’ve been in…

[@Sknasen]

You're a legend.

[@irvinmufuh5044]

“This is not X-Plane, it’s a real plane”😂😂😂😂

[@darewolf1533]

lol

[@francescodiodati7488]

😂😂😂😂

[@matperdu94]

Me too 😂😂

[@lazypilotindonesian]

ixeg

[@matperdu94]

@@lazypilotindonesian 🤣🤣

[@Pacifica1123]

In modern aircraft, you just push Ctrl + E :-D

[@Loosetile2]

And some modern computers still can't compute that

[@takamanch]

Also you can turn on the lights by pushing l

[@goldenstateaviation2861]

And then use Slew Mode

[@markgorospe3223]

security guard: Hey get out of the aircraft now.

[@terencerucker3244]

I found an old 737 sales brochure that was sent out to prospective airlines back when Boeing was marketing the first 737-100. On the last page was a list of assumptions that were used for the advertised operating costs. Jet A, $.21 / gallon !! Average passenger weight / 145 lbs.

[@eggnogs]

Terence Rucker what? Just my snack weights 145 lb

[@Bartonovich52]

That was expensive. One of the advantages for the first jets in the 1950s was .10c kerosene vs .25c high octane aviation fuel.

[@terencerucker3244]

You are right. I remembered the numbers incorrectly. I went back and checked. It was 12c a gallon. Wow.

[@shantanu925]

Thanks, Now I can steal an aircraft

[@TyphoonVstrom]

If only that's all there was to moving an aircraft. Next thing you'd have to do is hijack a tug, hold two ground crew hostage, learn how to start and run the main engines, how to energise the hydraulic systems, work out how to use the brakes, get your hostages to comply with your demands whilst in the cockpit and they are on the ground. That's not even considering if there was enough fuel on board to get anywhere meaningful and then obtaining fuel if it was insufficient (and most commercial aircraft aren't fuelled till just before takeoff, when final weights, wind & weather conditions to determine holding and alternate fuel etc). Then, IF you were successful with all that, you could try and figure out how to taxi a large aircraft without crashing into anything or running off a taxiway, whilst trying to outsmart the countless other people who have seen or learned about what you are doing and will stop you before you even get close to an active runway.....

[@chesterolson9242]

just watch out for the crazy water

[@Courtney1992]

n844AA

[@askhowiknow5527]

Essentially the ground crew, everyone nearby, and everyone running the tower, departure, and ground frequencies have to want you to have it. Then you’re good.

[@askhowiknow5527]

easydoz1 Don’t steal the blue Piper! That’s mine.

[@LadislavDobri]

In the last couple of days I've been watching all kind of start up's and this is by far the best one, you explain so much little things and with a very warm voice, thanks, peace and love from Slovakia ! Cheers!

[@ramairgto72]

Never get tired of that turbine starting up. From Batman to the M1A .

[@MrKiko2704]

Wow, finally some actual footage of Han Solo and the millennium falcon!

[@andriyriccardotonna1812]

What an aircraft even the fire master switches sound like a vintage telephone

[@eggnogs]

I will be piloting my first 737 for Ryanair tomorrow. This video is a life saver. Thank you

[@mad_bad_cat]

Senor eggnogs Now I understand why Ryanair is crap.

[@thatflywelshguy9662]

Ryanair doesn't fly classics do they? Thought they only had 800's which are a total redesign in the cockpit vs. the 400

[@TheSmurfboard]

Senor eggnogs I can post an fsx2000 video I made when I was 12 of a 737 takeoff, anything to help.

[@MrJefft514]

I am very glad you are learning to fly a jetliner from KZbin

[@palopo-t3v]

that's utter bullshit. By the time you get to do your base check in Ryanair, you know more about the airplane's systems than the more experienced pilots right before their LPC.

[@evanfinch4987]

Wow that apu fire warning is like ringing all the way from the 1960s!

[@terencerucker3244]

Coordinates line up to a Delta hanger at Kansas City airport. Great airplane. Love the 737. Reliable and easy to work on. Easy to fly and safe to fly on. Tough old birds.

[@MauritsVeen]

0:25 someone who flies the IXEG 737-300, nice :)

[@ErmakDimon]

Maurits Veen too bad this vid was released long before the release of ixeg, btw hi from Dmitrii

[@crystalthewolf8945]

@@ErmakDimon he had the beta version

[@nemthefearless]

That 737 cockpit looks like such a snug and cozy place after that startup, soothing sound of ducted air and fans just makes me want to curl up and go to sleep. Sometimes its hard to wait till the "gear up" call.

[@OrdinaryDoughnuttz]

That’s not cozy.

[@terrytytula]

I could watch videos like this for hours, wish the quality was better than 240.

[@psour33]

We are not in X-Plane XD

[@ruhrpilot]

Never seen this turning type APU switch.

[@chris22capt]

Spiderschwein Same

[@LostPilotage]

It is an option, this rotary type switch, has the option for "Delay Off."

[@GeorgeKakashvili]

Classic version

[@davidca96]

737, my favorite passenger airliner ever. I like the 737-200 the best out of all the versions as a kid I always loved how they look. The new gens are obviously better, its a nostalga thing (however its spelt). Thanks for the video I love to see how everything works.

[@NT0M]

I qualified on a 737-200 as Captain. It was a great airplane to fly but doesn't hold a candle to the new ones. This aircraft used 30% less fuel than the -200 and is much more reliable.

[@everettrailfan]

And the MAX 8 is 14% more efficient than the NG, which itself is already significantly more efficient than this -400...

[@ConwayTruckload]

I saw a guy at a air show he had a home built aircraft powered by one of those apu engines. I thought that was cool to see.

[@angel-or1jf]

Thank you straight and to the point, really nice, would have like to see an engine start up, and a better quality video, but its perfect sir thank you very much. Mechanics FTW!! Lol

[@carloscardenalcastellanos9897]

Man I would love to have an engineer like that! Cheers to than Gent

[@zkalireza]

Thanks for the X-Plane tutorial

[@pennyspringdoor]

Great demo. It also could help a few viewers as (jet airliner or even Boeing) enthusiasts to get around a common myth that a Boeing 737 can't be started without a ground cart (or ex plane). Indeed, "ships" batteries in this instance to provide for the APU start. APU to (elect) bus when stable as well as supplying bleed air for an (air cond) pack. Later, the first engine started using bleed air from the APU. Thanks.

[@Kalvinjj]

Kinda weird myth, I get it with the 707 as it could be expected that an aircraft of those proportions back in it's day wouldn't be flying to small airports without the required equipment (don't know if it even had an APU), but the 727 and 737 were conceptually different in that regard, it's the whole reason they're both so low to the ground and had built-in stairs (the 727 having the rear one and 737s have them under the door, tho I think that might be an option).

[@wezair80]

Regarding the left hand side duct pressure reading , had the left pack valve been opened instead I guess this would immediately pin the issue on the gauge or the sensor measuring the duct pressure? Clearly the left hand side duct was pressurised since it was supplying the right hand side via the isolation valve.

[@merlotburmese]

wezair80 But the right side spodgit needs a boost from the vent shackle, or you run the risk of the over-loofah exceeding the recommended pressure blump. Failing that, over-dretch the hove-port undershim.

[@philiproseel3506]

lol

[@NT0M]

To be honest folks, I had a major brain drain when I made this video. There are several mistakes and referring to the checklist would have caught them. One glaring mistake was closing the engine bleed valves. While closing them does no harm, the potential for them to stick closed means that the affected engine cannot be started. So the main engine bleed valves are only closed for maintenance or when required for operation under rare situations.

[@salkdjfasldkfjsdlk]

Thank you for showing the procedure.

[@bortfort7939]

Would it not be easier to go to the next page, to copy the GPS POS at 7:48? Please let me know if I'm missing something.

[@battleangel5595]

I've always wondered about the startup procedure was. Guess MS Flight simulator and X-Plane assume I just want to climb into an already warmed up aircraft and miss all the fun stuff.

[@954fella]

Why you got to hate on us X-Planers lol. Nice video sir.

[@sirius4496]

fsx is superior

[@sirius4496]

xplane is trash my man. No addons or anything, it's trash

[@954fella]

LoL, you can't say its trash or don't have any add-ons. Xplane looks very nice at night to me and true if it had the top payware developers that FSX or P3D has. It would be hands down the best sim out.

[@nookzaa]

James B. Xplane??.... Ohh!! That cartoon!

[@CaptShami]

Sirius there are addons you doofus

[@TheDisabledGamersChannel]

0:26 Now this is NOT uh, X-Plane okay.................HAHAHA That was gold!!!!

[@chimplove2006]

2:23 some guy crashed his car..

[@arane7197]

Mr.Gamer 39033 you can hear the car alarm

[@caprica_13]

that's the APU starter, not a car alarm lol

[@graythewolf6096]

The good ol' classy 737

[@baby9811]

egt, apu..... very nice vid, but we're not all experts....exhaust gas temperature and auxiliary power unit.... i love the 737 400 more than the next gen of 737s. love the old howling of the previous cmf 56 !

[@officergregorystevens5765]

Maybe in my 737's in FSX/X-Plane 'last position' is just automatically the current actual GPS position. I think it must be just to make things easier but in real life you'd want to look at for example which gate or group of gates you're parked at to give you a very exact lat/long.

[@alanpassat6759]

How many APU starts does a healthy battery give? How normal is a flat battery? Is battery temperature monitored? Could the battery catch fire under load? If the battery is flat is it no big deal as you can get an external start? Would that external start start the APU with electricity or air? Or would you go straight to a main engine start from external? Apologies for the stupid questions.

[@MrRexquando]

Not stupid at all. The book says 10. But usually by start 4-5 you know you have a problem and/or volts are down to 22 ish and not safe to pull that many amps on the starter motor. If the APU is a dud you start the engine directly with bleed air. The APU doesn't have the capacity to start from bleed air.

[@alanpassat6759]

MrRexQuando Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

[@robertzeurunkl8401]

I really appreciate my Mazda.

[@Rafaelîî-23]

Thank you for this video so much I searched for a long time to find a great video like this one and I wanted the plane to be real thank you☺

[@smootheddrake5481]

" Mabey it dosint turn on till ya need it. . . I don't know, i'd have to look it up"

[@CorbinWilliams]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!!!

[@rocketman48]

I just love this stuff.great video.

[@kofirey6752]

B hydraulic pumps on? Parking brakes set.

[@deanc.5984]

He knows his sh#t. Good job.

[@94Kevin]

awesome video, thanks for uploading!

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

So, the mechanic warms up the plane and the pilots show up later to fly the beast!

[@MrRexquando]

Umm every mechanic on the planet knows how to start the engines. It's kind of important to being able to fix/maintain them. He's no mechanic. FBO guy who someone showed how to start the APU.

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

I understood thoroughly by your answer and I learned that these airliners has an smaller jet engine to start the main engines because they need a lot of torque and a battery can not provided it. So the man in this case started just the APU (small engine) and not the main engines.

[@MrRexquando]

Well kind of. Turbines in this configuration supply zero torque. It has a dedicated compressor to provide "bleed air". The bleed air provides the power to start the engines plus electrical power (both ac/dc). Older aircraft required ground power/ground air. Like in the 707 which had no APU. You started one engine at the gate on the GPU cart and remaining 3 with bleed air as you taxi. Compressed air is also how you start most large diesel engines for ships/trains/etc. Just way more efficient than a bunch of giant heavy starter motors etc.

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

MrRexQuando You are right. I also think it is inefficient and less safe to rely on electric starters for the engines. So compressed hot air from the APU is routed to the main engines and turns the blades till they reach the necessary rpm to ignite. Then bleed air from the engines support electrics and haydraulics and in case an engine stops, it can restart. very complicated systems and at the same time simple. genious. Smaller engines probably use electric startes.

[@robertgary3561]

Usually you’d use a start cart. Maybe they’re a cargo operator out on the edge of the field. Only planes I’ve flown with electrical starters have been small corporate jets.

[@essbe7158]

Thanks for the video. :)

[@cmitube]

Very cool. Thanks for the tutorial.

[@RichieRouge206]

This is a fascinating video! You have an excellent narration voice too! I’ve often wondered how you start a plane from cold like you would your car on a dark cold morning lol.

[@W1RMD]

I would like to know what type of locking switch you turn on at the 4:00 mark and where can I get one. Would be pretty cool to fire up the HV power supply of my Johnson Invader 2000 transmitter with one.

[@bra1nstr]

Awesome video mate, it's really help me with my studies!

[@Unfinished_sentenc]

Thank you. That was very interesting.

[@NT0M]

I'm glad you enjoyed it...

[@PATSKING11]

4:00 best part of the whole vid

[@mr.sir.]

This is the guy I want as my instructor

[@feynthefallen]

"That's weird" is not something I'd like to hear the pilot say on an airplane I'm supposed to fly in...

[@nscoulter]

feynthefallen He's not the pilot. He's the mechanic. That's a normal reaction regardless. This is why he is starting the airplane up for the first flight of the day, to find any mechanical issues, so he can fix them.

[@NT0M]

Trust me, you have no idea what the crew up front are saying sometimes. If you did, you would probably drive next time. In truth, crews for the most part are very well trained and perform professionally. But aircraft are complex and sometimes do things no one can explain. The newest generation of airliners require electrical resets frequently. Kind of cont-alt-del thing...

[@ramflow8466]

Do u panic when u see the low pressure indicator on ur car during the cold winter months?

[@BenDover-wm7wf]

Only when my car is at 30,000 feet

[@oscar_kilo]

@@BenDover-wm7wf lmao

[@WackyBroProductions]

Who turns all the dimmers down and why?

[@mattaviation7472]

Could of been shut down for the day during the day so no need for lights but next day it is dark. Or to increase battery life

[@marcoeland3405]

The same why you turn off your TV before you pull the plug...

[@quenchize]

You turn all lights and panel illuminations off so that when you come back and turn the battery master on there isn't a whole load of systems drawing power.

[@steve1978ger]

For night vision, maybe? It's hard to spot anything outside, in the dark, when the panels shine in your eyes like a Christmas tree

[@greenpogo]

yeah its for your night vision. you dim them way before landing in the dark also.

[@quenchize]

You don't check that the engine start selectors are at shutoff and the landing gear select is down before you start the APU?

[@NT0M]

Yes, I did.... If I went step by step, this video would not be much fun......

[@jR060t]

Hey, thanks for making this video! It was really interesting 👍

[@fcbrants]

Thanks for the video, fun to watch. I'm guessing you're producing the video "just for fun", but a lapel microphone & an assistant (trainee :) to hold the camera would make a huge difference. Thanks for sharing!!

[@NT0M]

You are correct, just for fun. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Maybe I will get more professional but I am retired so maybe not.. :)

[@CraZy291]

Very well explained.

[@berzerker4998]

Did you not have air on the right side because the isolation valve was open?

[@jpsworkshop2544]

"now thats weird, always something with these old airplanes" - filling me with tonnes of confidence, fingers crossed my next flight is on an A320

[@steve1978ger]

I prefer the old planes, the new ones have too many computers trying to be smarter than the pilot. I'm a software engineer.

[@TyphoonVstrom]

It was only bleed air indicator to one of the aircon packs, hardly life threatening. At least a Boeing is honest about failing, a Scarebus doesn't tell you till it can't fix it for itself and throws you in the deep end with a multitude of failure codes you have to figure out....

[@WeddingVegetables]

You're right. Horse and carriage, that's the way to go. Who needs progress?

[@NGC1433]

Unless you are flying ultralights, I'm afraid you are too late a couple of decades. It's all fly by wire and full authority engine control units. Even in planes like A320 and 737 pilots can only "ask" the airplane to do things, it's all filtered by software.

[@ramairgto72]

Boeing, or i'm not going!

[@bill605able]

That is much like starting the pilot light on my gas kitchen stove.

[@SilverSpoon_]

Where's the part where you open the engine's boiler and throw some coal into it? What kind of plane is that!

[@markslandingsandaviationvi3123]

0:25 X-Plane 11 users: TRIGGERED!😂

[@w5cdt]

Delta Hangar Kansas City Airport

[@stefanoderiu6541]

But, the pilot is dying?

[@chris22capt]

So, is it stuck gauge or something wrong with the valve?

[@augustlast191]

That was Awesome!

[@peterbustin8604]

Fascinating, thank you

[@haykodjan]

Greate video, thanx, i will take this knowledge to my xplane 11 ixeg 737

[@SemVinheta2010]

Tks. Nice video.

[@Tom-nm6ep]

Thanks, it's my plan for a skyhome during zombie apocolypse.

[@vasily2022]

Brilliant. Thank you!

[@JMG717]

Don't forget to set the Chemtrails switch to ON and set the radios to 121.5 and 243.0

[@boeingtrijet]

Good Job, nice video.

[@simpilot8508]

In x plane you turn on the battery

[@GhostSheep96]

I've never seen that kind of APU Start Switch in a 737 cockpit^^ But I would prefer it. IDK why.

[@umi3017]

Maybe because it's similar to what on all other Boeings after 737

[@dalmiester]

Excellent!

[@peterellis5311]

Do they have a way to plug into an external power supply or do they always run the Apu when the plane is on?

[@peterbruns6124]

Yep, they sure do. There is an external power receptacle on the right side of the aircraft in the nose section, down near the nose gear. When power is plugged in there will be a light on the overhead panel that says "ground power available" or something similar. Then there is a separate switch to turn it on.

[@jeffkopher3468]

Nice vid, from a fellow A&P. They use it, we know how it works... Just let warm a little.

[@maximusfatboy]

That was awesome! Thanks.

[@bigtaxrefund]

any video for start up on BRIGHT HOT DAY?...lol

[@DerUltraGamerr]

What does the manual of this thing has to look like?!

[@marks6663]

So if I had to get away from the cops after pulling a heist, you don't suggest a 737-400?

[@raylouis]

Where do you stick the Ignition Key? (LOL)

[@ModoAviaoSim]

My channel: This is not a real plane, it's X-Plane 😅

[@gpowerdragon9852]

I wonder of extreme Cold start Is Any Different like turning on the glow plugs on diesel truck and tractor or locomotive

[@peterellis5311]

G POWER DRAGON usually they just need a blast of EZ start down the intake nozzle, but if it's really cold then best to use the Alaska method and light a fire under the sump a few hours before starting up...

[@edward28051989]

Seems a Virtual Cockpit of some Simulator. Congratulations to X Plane, it just looks so real as this video

[@Eteller0135]

Ye but in xplane its an 737 300

[@porkchop41]

Am I correct that he only started the APU and not main engines, or did I miss that?

[@NT0M]

That's correct. The crew will start the engine just before they taxi. The main engines use a bunch of fuel and they are a great safety risk when operating.

[@FlyNAA]

@@NT0M Different airline and different airplane, but thanks for having them all ready and warm for us on those cold-ass mornings!

[@pesto12601]

240p? Potato phone camera?

[@NT0M]

This video was made years ago before the advent of smart phones and their capable cameras. If you are watching my channel, you know that I rarely edit or change it once a video is made. Making and posting videos for me it just for fun.

[@stanpatterson5033]

Rendered in 360p for me. I saw everything just fine, thanks. But in your defense.... yes, there are a lot of things uploaded to YT in toastervision and potatovision that are quite painfully distracting and hard to watch.

[@XP72official]

Thank you.

[@sastrugi4471]

So a quick getaway is unlikely?

[@Trint3e]

“See ya, suckers! Now, let me just get the APU online...”

[@matperdu94]

0.26 "It's not x-Plane 11, It's real plane" 😂😂

[@johnmorris3776]

Thank god don't have to go through all that to fire up the car.

[@TheWindigomonster]

There should be an ASMR type video with an hour of that noise 33 seconds in when he flips the switch just looping over and over.

[@MikeHunt420]

how come aft fuel pump isnt on before apu start?

[@NT0M]

The boost pumps are AC powered and not available until after the APU has powered the AC busses. On some 737's (depending on the airline who ordered them when new), there is a DC boost pump for the APU during startup. I have never seen a separate control for it like a DC-9, MD-80 series aircraft. For that reason we turn on the boost pump after the aircraft is powered up electrically.

[@MrRexquando]

APU doesn't need the pump to start. It draws it through the fuel control valve until the AC pump is online as NTOM says. It prolongs the life of the FCU to pump the fuel to it. The additional (left aft) DC pump for the 737 was only produced on the 737-500. Next Gen have a completely different fuel system. No DC powered pumps.

[@tc0330]

Do you live in the KC area?

[@dennisdunton6530]

I'm sure he does cause the plane is sitting at KMCI.

[@Rudyworld]

Great video. Isn't there something on the hydrolic switches, one has to be off if it is being towed?

[@peterbruns6124]

If the aircraft is being towed, all hydraulics will be off and unpressurized.

[@Rudyworld]

Sorry I meant push back, before flight. There was something about the hyd switches, two needed to be off while it is being pushed back. There was also something that you want on so the flaps don't come down on their own

[@mistofoles]

Ok, everybody got that ? - Now it's your turn...

[@MicraHakkinen]

So what do you do for a living? Oh, I'm a valet... FOR FREAKING AIRPLANES! ;)

[@jefar53]

Are you the pilot ?