NTE vs Project Mugen: Are They Similar?

[@iammordant]

3 Things I Think the Devs Should Add to NTE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npjUdWxtadiEiqM In this video you'll hear me say and type out Everless to Neverless instead of EverNESS to NeverNESS It's a mistake on my end and I apologise. The "Less" comes easier to me than "Ness" Also note that: While I'm looking at similarities and differences between the two games, I'm not trying to start controversy. Just wanna objectively assess the two while answering a question I had

[@GhostofVaIe]

Idk why I can’t add a comment so I’ll add it here. This is what ZZZ should have been but oh well. They posted on Facebook about Q&A and address a lot of good things like combat being cheap looking and plan to fix it. I hope this does well because I’m so bored of hoyo games hopefully we can have a fully functional gta type game like this where we can be immersed for years like gta 5 thank you

[@iammordant]

@@GhostofVaIe I hope so too Having both Mugen, NTE and GTA 6 will keep us entertained for a looping time Strange that you can't post a comment I checked wherever KZbin was holding your posts back but I see nothing It's probably an error

[@doedoel035]

Great video. Ever since NTE showed up, this question popped up in my head. I agree with the notion that whoever releases first will be the more popular one. I hope that NTE doesn't share the same fate as ToF, unluckily labelled as Genshin Killer which impacted the game's popularity negatively. Kinda sad that Hotta Studio have to go through this twice.

[@iammordant]

I think every game that has the "gacha action RPG" tag on it will unfortunately be compared to Genshin. Sad but it's the truth

[@kidwok555]

Yyoooooi playing toF rn!!!!

[@rcane6842]

What happened to ToF now? Ngl the base look and base gameplay of NTE looks a little bit like ToF

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

NTE world looks amazing and the travel and exploration is great, but the combat needs to feel faster and snappier imo. Needs more impact.

[@iammordant]

Luckily we're not even in a beta stage for the game and the devs are listening to feedback so we have hope for better combat

[@DaedLizrad]

NTE feels like GTA meets Paranormal, while Mugen looks like Marvel meets Paranormal... it might really depend entirely on who releases first.

[@iammordant]

At this point, knowing that whichever releases first may outdo the other I'm scared devs may rush and not give us a good game

[@AmNotAWoofingCat]

@@iammordant this is super real! Because then the other will rush to release their game in hopes of a good response, altho i really hope that isn’t the case. It’d actually be cool to have 2 good games

[@ilzafadilatulhaq1780]

@@iammordant and here we are... even its still beta, but jeez, seems like they rush the game release.

[@iammordant]

@@ilzafadilatulhaq1780 Let's not panic yet. Soon we'll get another CBT. With how much the devs seem to be listening to feedback I expect great things to unfold

[@tornadoofterror1481]

Project mugen haven't released gameplay footage that shows their UI and controls so we don't really knew, does spider swing avaiable on every place or just in certain points/cinematic missions like wuwa? does the fluidity in animation and combat exchanged by making the world smaller and limited with many loading screens? we can only wait, the last upd from PM is like 1 year ago, i hope they drop something soon.

[@iammordant]

From the snippets of gameplay we saw of project mugen and also the dev update on it we see different characters using the swinging: MC, Bansy and Taffy so I think it's safe to say that the swinging is a general mechanic

[@iammordant]

About the lack of loading screens yet, the devs said that the game will mostly not have loading screens except from a few areas where it is necessary

[@jonathanrodrigues3505]

Great video! I really wanted to hear more about this topic, especially about project mugen as theres no info on it at all right now

[@iammordant]

Thanks so much for watching I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@alyasVictorio]

After the new gameplay trailer of Ananta (formerly called Project Mugen), this game is now tied with NTE regardless of their Venn-Diagram comparison to each other (like NTE has bigger advantage for being based on UE5 (hope it's upgrading to 5.3/5.4 soon) but maybe without Nanite and Lumen as an anime game)

[@iammordant]

Now all we wait for is gameplay of Ananta which we'll hopefully get very soon

[@ierikun]

Project mugen has better animation base on what I see on the trailers. I think NTE has more freedom in when it comes to game play such as buying a house and designing cars but Mugen has better open world movement such as parkour and other ways to explore the city. I might play both but im loving Mugen more bc of this animations, movements and combat that doesn't look like a GTA Genshin impact

[@iammordant]

Well we haven't seen Ananta's combat fully yet so we can't conclude anything just yet

[@mmoairdrop3165]

if you watch the trailer, you'll realize that NTE is very chaotic, with no clear direction. It has similar issues to ToF. After watching the NTE trailer, I still don't know what the game's style, design direction, and storyline will be like. On the other hand, after watching the Project Mugen trailer, I can clearly see the game's direction. It's much more appealing and interesting compared to NTE if NTE doesn't find its own direction.

[@iammordant]

I pointed this out when I replied to someone else. NTE focused more on spectacle in their reveal while Mugen mixed in a bit of the story. Depending on which of the 2 things shown the individual likes, their bias will switch

[@AERHUNVtuberChannel]

This battle gonna go coldes between project Mugen and neverness to everness

[@iammordant]

I just hope both are awesome to play

[@juliemesser2053]

Neverness to Everness needs that wall move permanently!!!

[@iammordant]

If only we can all let them know that

[@LoveByNicole]

Thanks to you tho I found a new game that i'm interested in lol, this is my first time hearing of NTE and to find out its by the same people who made Tower of Fantasy, im definitely hype. I love how unique the characters are on ToF and this honestly just seems like a more polished version of ToF

[@iammordant]

Glad to have introduced someone to the game through my video I hope it delivers on expectations

[@ducklord8208]

Awesome video, I hope this gets more attention in the next couple days while NTE is on the hype train for new game trailers

[@iammordant]

I hope so too! Thank you so much for watching

[@mememermers9750]

Haven't heard any news about project mugen for a while now if it just got dropped i might just play NTE, if its still coming out I'd play project mugen over NTE

[@iammordant]

Now we wait for news to drop

[@gwanetayla7683]

Same same, but I want their updates to be a little distance from wuwa because wuwa and Megan will be my main

[@randomnerd9204]

this video ne more views btw thanks for makin this vid

[@ardee9337]

At this point in time, may the best urban open world gacha come out first lmao. It's not a matter of which game is better than the other or the similarities. The most important part is who's closer to an actual release, and so far NTE looks much closer to release a game than Mugen.

[@iammordant]

All we can do now is wait for which one I've will give us a beta first

[@Sirkingx]

Depends which one is more predatory with their gacha system i suppose. Both look great. Leaning more towards NTE at the moment if I had to choose right now.

[@iammordant]

With how little faith people have in Netease it seems Project Mugen Is the one people suspect will be predatory But it remains to be seen

[@Sirkingx]

@@iammordant Thats unfortunate. That game looks amazing.

[@RaionKuro]

hope we can play booth in online Coop

[@iammordant]

Let's wait and see

[@saddany3254]

From the glimpse that they showed, Mugen open world doesn't look anywhere near as immersive as NTE. It's like comparing the inferior spiderman open world (Mugen), with the superior GTA open world (NTE). And no, the reason why it's not because of the spiderman grapple they have, it's the camera, the movement, and the graphic, they just look cheap. Whereas NTE, the moment I see it, it really does give me that "damn it really is anime GTA" it's like upgraded version of GTA 5, which is utterly crazy from a free gacha game. It really is triple AAA title gacha game, if that make sense. And the fact that it uses the cutting edge UE 5, from Hotta, the leading dev for research and development in perfect world, the first and only gacha dev that implemented RTX into a gacha game (ToF), honestly... Mugen doesn't stand a shred of a chance.

[@iammordant]

I think that majorly stems from the fact that we haven't seen actual gameplay from project Mugen It's better we wait till one or the other starts to showcase more stuff to us

[@Avdb033]

No shit, we haven't seen gameplay videos from project mugen and only a trailer.

[@logxrx]

The last thing we saw about project mugen was a year ago, we don't know how much they've improved sin since

[@sanarooh3829]

It doesn't depend on who comes first You can even look genshin and tower of fantasy as an example But from the trailers and gameplay mechanically they seem complete so besides content story writing balances and bug fixes plus additional side content and or changes I doubt there will be much change but NTE's animations are not as lively and well animated as project Mugen The animations for characters and cars seems more polished not to mention the special fx,physics and thematic style, they are simply more polished My only gripe with Mugen would be Netease itself which could bring down the game enough for NTA to get polished meanwhile And the creators of NTE sure improved in many aspects compared to tower of fantasy Clearly the passion is shown in both games just one has more experience and polish while also having a dubious backing

[@iammordant]

Let's wait and see what happens on launch then Looking forward to both of them

[@sanarooh3829]

@@iammordant true

[@LoveByNicole]

To be fair, every game is similar to some other one. Remember when someone smashed their gaming console at the announcement of Genshin Impact cause it was literally called a breath of the wild knock off. I'm glad we're getting more open world anime games. Genshin really flooded the gates for more games like it. I want a demon slayer game in this type of style

[@iammordant]

You have a point about the similarities between many games I don't think anyone will forget the infamous PS4 scene

[@caquita402]

Project mugen looks a thousand times better but im gonna try both

[@iammordant]

We just gotta wait till project mugen actually shows us gameplay

[@solomonjean]

project mugen and nte are very different from zzz. The open world perspective changes everything

[@iammordant]

That's a fact

[@aldvier]

I like some of your game interest. I'd like to visit sometimes and see news from you.

[@iammordant]

Sure no problem Just subscribe and set the bell to show all notifications

[@milmil5350]

I rewatched the Project Mugen trailer after NTE dropped. 🤔 The animations and design of the environments look better in Project Mugen than NTE. Mugen's combat looks amazing and more unique. I hope NTE doesn't discourage Mugen's devs. But right now, the games are far too similar. Hopefully Mugen's devs are pushing themselves to make the game as unique as possible. Because just having super powers in an urban environment isn't good enough to work by itself anymore. 😅 Hopefully they had some hidden twists and concepts to further separate it from its competitors. And the bigger the differences are, the better their chances of survival will be.

[@iammordant]

From all the things I've seen so far, and with the new snippet of news that the NTE devs just dropped it's not looking good for making one game or the other unique 🥲 I'm still giving both of them benefit of the doubt though

[@Yamamoto_Chiko]

*What is the release date of NTE & Project Mugen?*

[@iammordant]

No official release date yet We know they we'll have a chance to play a small scale version of NTE soon though

[@Zetchzie]

If they lock most personal things behind premium currency that you cant get normally then i wont bother. Genshin handles this pretty well.

[@iammordant]

If they're listening to feedback from fans and creators then I don't see this happening I'd honestly be shocked

[@axelarisaka9891]

Projec mugen the new the day of before

[@iammordant]

😂 only time will tell

[@OverRevy]

Both. Both is good.

[@iammordant]

I agree Now we wait for whichever launches first

[@0scout]

Pootis engage reference

[@The93Momo93]

This will probably sound weird, it's true Mugen has no real gameplay showcase yet but based on the trailer I think it has more personality and overall it's more interesting and fun looking, the bits of the story we saw seemed pretty rad (giant Dila bit for example) and for me the character designs look better too. (as well as the animations seem more fluid) My reaction was kind of "okay" during the NTE trailer while Mugen genuinely wow'd me. But generally I agree with you, people will probably flock to the one that will manage to come out sooner.

[@iammordant]

Mugen tried to draw us in with the story NTE focused on the world and spectacle so I'm not surprised since people feel Mugen more It really swings both ways

[@alcatraz-nc2814]

NTE is made by the same studio that made TOF. If you have played TOF for a long time you will notice the similar vibes when it comes to movement and combat but also the UI. If anything NTE looks more like a refined TOF set in another setting than a brand new gacha. Now is it a bad thing ? no not really. However I will just say, TOF also promised a lot of things before its release and on D day well...we all got some surprise. What I am worried about for this game is the monetization and the powercreep, which are the 2 things that really plague TOF. Pretty much every cosmetic or cosmetic changes was locked behind a paywall (or forced you to spend gems ), same for like 95% of the mounts. For some cosmetics you could get it "for free" if you had the gem but the ratio was abysmal (120 gems or 40 premium currency, something along that ratio). Which is a shame really when customizing your character is part of the "mmo" experience. And then comes powercreep which IMO is one the main reason a lot of people left this game. You always, always have to pull for the new weapon of your element if you wanted to stay relevent or clear new content. TLDR : NTE feels like a TOF 3.0 with a lot of promise, let's hope it wont be plague with garbage monetization and constant powercreep.

[@iammordant]

I never played ToF past like 2 missions because the game absolutely refused to work for me😂 Since the devs so how much ToF didn't succeed I think that logically they'll be looking to improve their practices So I hope that a lot of what was bad for ToF is changed

[@Searingmeowah]

These days i dont care who release first, but how playable and enjoyable they are

[@iammordant]

Fair enough Most people unfortunately will most probably flock to what was first rather than what is best

[@ikatokiyazaki2343]

Whichever comes out first wins

[@Yamamoto_Chiko]

*We've almost no information about project mugen, the developers just uploaded 2 small videos in their official channel almost a year ago. Still waiting for some news related to project mugen.* 😭

[@iammordant]

Same here They started recruiting players to do English interviews though so maybe they're cooking up something

[@joshuaboyi6298]

What if they collabed?

[@iammordant]

Most likely won't happen but it'd be somewhat interesting to see

[@RaionKuro]

unreal, but if they would put both in one game, it would be the best result

[@GhostInTimeGaming]

Me be like; "ha suckas i wont compare them! ill just play both of them! mwuhehehe." XD

[@iammordant]

Exactly what I'm gonna do!!😂

[@ardee9337]

Tbh we shouldn't make comparisons, we are not even sure if Mugen is still set to release lmao. But based just by who showed a clear gameplay footage even just for demo purposes I'd place my bet in NTE, I'll just forget about Mugen now 🤣

[@iammordant]

😂😭 I mean, we've seen job listings so it's very likely that Mugen will probably launch When though?, that's the big question

[@ardee9337]

@@iammordant they made me wait for a year though that's something I consider, if NTE makes us wait just as long? Then that's the time I'll just go screw it and just go with whoever comes first 🤣

[@iammordant]

@@ardee9337 😂😂😂 fair point

[@volticx6]

keep grinding bro and i'm excited to see where NTE goes but the p2w will be crazy

[@iammordant]

Thank you for the support brother Dunno about the P2W yet Let's pray that's not the case🥲

[@sdkkauwjsssad]

Let's hope that Hotta learn from their mistakes and power creep is not gonna be an issue

[@TheAnimeSounds]

whatever the case, i want them to be good, for our sake :)

[@iammordant]

I hope they'll be good

[@mybeaniebooz9601]

Ive never even heard of nte

[@iammordant]

It was announced today so I'm not surprised you haven't

[@genshinfinity]

A number of ToF players know that this is in the works for months now but almost no content creator discusses it probably due to backlash with mentioning ToF or Hotta

[@danielcabezas2825]

Awesome vid And here's what I think if this both games comes out ZZZ will fall a little bit but still it will depend. Project Mugen is most likely the anticipated game because of the animation and exploring and combat,but I don't know about the story yet but we still need more info NTE in the other hand we have these gameplay and mechanics which for me customization,etc that's basically more content on the get go Both have great maps and I hope they make good music Still we should wait for both games to come out

[@iammordant]

I agree, it's better we hold off on any judgements until they release OR until we have more information

[@rickyrahma3611]

ZZZ caters to different audience. I dont get why people keep comparing these games to ZZZ while the only similarities between the games are the urban themes.

[@katsuwen]

​@@rickyrahma3611zzz cater to persona players

[@danielcabezas2825]

@@rickyrahma3611 I think it's a recent game so some people wanna compare it to the unreleased/teased games.

[@wikileaksintern]

ima keep it a buck i want to play project mugen more than NTE. but ill play both. project mugen seems like itll be much better quality though (based on my GUT FEELING).

[@iammordant]

Let's just wait and see

[@xunliu9653]

NTE is more like Wuthering Waves, and for Project Mugen, we don't know how it plays, I think it is more like ZZZ.

[@iammordant]

More like Wuthering Waves? What makes you say that?

[@aldvier]

Yeay fighting monster into the backrooms!

[@iammordant]

😂😂

[@aldvier]

Interesting

[@Firstname-b9j]

Hmmm, both games haven't even released yet, and we already got people comparing them

[@iammordant]

It's inevitable that comparisons will be made I was just curious about what differentiates the 2 games from what we've seen so far

[@Firstname-b9j]

@@iammordant fair enough

[@urboykaii]

I like nte more it’s give me jjk vibes

[@iammordant]

Does it?

[@yumikokowachi7200]

i mean people saying project mugen is NTE they just rename it and changed more

[@MuYi-Shawn]

Those are two different game studio. NTE is from Hota which is the sub studio from Tensent, and Mugen is from Naked Rain which is the sub studio from NetEase.

[@iammordant]

Like @MuYi-Shawn pointed out, NTE is made by the developers of Tower of Fantasy while Mugen is made by Netease so I don't think they'd just swap the 2 games without us knowing

[@Lovec2710]

Лучше бы уже назвали дату релиза, сколько можно слюной давиться)))

[@iammordant]

Лмаооо, я ожидаю, что игра выйдет в следующем году или в 2026-м. Мне не терпится увидеть, что они представят. (Я использую переводчик, простите за ошибки)

[@firetop-cn8vb]

All i am hearing is two cakes

[@iammordant]

And both will be eaten well

[@theonewhoasked513]

Gta + ZZZ + Ghostwire or Gta + Spiderman?

[@iammordant]

That could pretty much sum it up

[@dlwk1988]

both isnt even out yewt and we are here comparing already 💀

[@iammordant]

We're not comparing more than we're actually analysing the similarities and differences It's too early for comparisons

[@PansyMarcia-p5r]

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[@نيترو-د5ط]

❤NTE

[@filmbiru2]

Project Mugen is published by Netease tho.. It's a red flag for me.. I'll still try both later..

[@iammordant]

Everybody seems to hate Netease😂

[@Scatterblades]

project mugen looks dope but remember.. netease..

[@iammordant]

😂😂😭😭😭 I don't think I've seen one person that even wants to give Netease the benefit of the doubt

[@Fallen-Saint]

anime gta, now just add grapple hooks lol

[@iammordant]

Lmao I mean technically we have grappling hooks in Project Mugen

[@Fallen-Saint]

@@iammordant no, I'M saying add the hooks to NTE lol

[@momokosakurada605]

NTE and Project Mugen are not the same for example in NTE u can drive cars which in Project seems like u cant and also NTE u dont swing from building to building like Mugen so i dont think its that similiar

[@iammordant]

I talked about this in the video We don't have enough info on project mugen yet to know if we're unable to get into random cars or not

[@momokosakurada605]

@@iammordant i dont think so since the main way of transport is spiderman web swinging

[@iammordant]

@@momokosakurada605 we don't know if swinging is the main way because in the mugen's trailer we see characters riding a car I think it'll be an option but let's see

[@momokosakurada605]

@@iammordant its very likely the main way its still faster than riding a car

[@iammordant]

@@momokosakurada605 you have a fair point actually

[@eaudeparfumman]

They are the same game. Project muge. Was a placeholder name.

[@iammordant]

I doubt this😂😭 How'd the developer suddenly switch from Netease (Thunderfire Games) to Hotta (Devs of Tower of Fantasy)?

[@eaudeparfumman]

@@iammordant project mugens youtube channel doesnt exist anymore, thats the only thing that makes sense. game is just too similar. that red door. that building in the centre with the flower. the cars. the city. even the characters. or it could just be a blatant copy.

[@iammordant]

@@eaudeparfumman project mugen's KZbin channel is still up though Link: youtube.com/@project_mugen

[@Fourthaboveall]

Both look fun and they both are free I believe. So I will have fun with both. Although the swinging traversal gets and edge in my book. It's clear inspiration was taken from Mugen when it comes to NTE though.

[@iammordant]

Let's watch and see the reception for the games

[@alaminior]

Bro are you Nigerian? You sound Nigerian

[@iammordant]

I am brother

[@PiersYves-k2z]

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[@iammordant]

?

[@elaina391]

neverness to everness, not neverless to everless

[@iammordant]

Yeah I know It's a mistake on my end

[@setsunias2257]

It's "Neverness to Everness" not "Neverless to Everless"

[@iammordant]

My goodness! Thank you so much for the correction Funny enough I know the correct thing but I didn't realise my mistake took you pointed it out 😭

[@setsunias2257]

@@iammordant NP. I only realized because I was checking to make sure this game wasn't Project Mugen renamed. It just seems so similar.

[@UndeadPandaLegion]

Mugen loooks like they have better chars but Mugen is also prob gone

[@iammordant]

Naah, Project Mugen definitely is still cooking We've been seeing job listings so we know they're cooking

[@peckneck2439]

NTE will be a shit show on launch because of UE5. It's a demanding engine and a lot of people will struggle to run the game especially android users.

[@iammordant]

The devs said they're working on optimising it for mobile but I'm still cautiously optimistic

[@gwanetayla7683]

From what i know, Mugan made the blueprint, and NTE copied it.

[@iammordant]

Could be that both studios had the idea and happened to release at similar times

[@ReliusClover]

Souce: trustmebro (this is for the comment, not the reply)

[@gwanetayla7683]

Project Mugan official trailer; August 23, 2023. PlayStation announced August 25 2023 Gameplay clip Oct 9 2023 uploaded by MaxDGacha you can find more clips. Project Mugan new gameplay from Tokyo game show 2023 Sep 20 2023 uploaded by WadaGames Exploration demo clip Sep 21 2023 uploaded by Skill Op. You can find articles on this website gematsu Neverness To Everness trailer, July 15 2024 PlayStation announced July 17 2024 The 1st trailer from Project Mugen showcased many future which is what I called Blueprint which was later implemented in neverness to everness. from the time that trailer (project mugen) came out and the recent announcement of neverness to everness is a proof they copied much more they even used A.I to design their character 😂 Even the trailer was weird

[@gwanetayla7683]

@@ReliusClover if you have any counter to what I said please go ahead provide. I couldn't find anything on NTE before July 2024 and yes I know there was a rumor that Tower of Fantasy dev working on another game but no gameplay no nothing other than what Mugen has presented after nearly a year

[@gwanetayla7683]

@@iammordant I would have agreed just not when I have seen most of this games bosses have Wuwa inferno and the tiger from sets in Mt. Firmament movesets and many more copies

[@mika34653]

it doesn't look as polished as mugen. Sadge that mugen has gone radio silent...

[@iammordant]

Hopefully Mugen decided to wake up

[@JayceRustia]

More like Nevertheless Wtf is that thumbnail hahah

[@iammordant]

What thumbnail? I have no idea what you're talking about🥲😅

[@JayceRustia]

@@iammordant Well that was quick, good thinking you changed the thumbnail. But intro shows it.

[@iammordant]

@@JayceRustia I know 😭😭😭 It's killing me inside

[@Spiritwonder420]

Cough NTE is done by the tof devs its dead on arrival

[@iammordant]

* cough* we'll have to wait and see