Nuclear Meltdown 30 Miles from Los Angeles, Santa Susana Field Lab Visit Part 2

[@nevadak]

That was great! We all hope to hear more conversations and see historical areas like this unbiased. I appreciate all the time and red tape that was worked through from both sides and that you guys were able to make this happen.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks. It was really awesome to meet with the people there and see what they do. Hopefully we can go back again soon and get some footage of other areas.

[@DobuleDot]

Drew I always enjoy every video of your but this SSFL series is outstanding. The amount historical data and information answered all my questions that I had about this meltdown . Thank you Radioactive Drew. You gotta go to Chernobyl !!!

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I would love to go there one of these days. But in the near future I hope to go back to SSFL and do a video about the SNAP reactor basement they are getting ready to clean up. I’m also hoping DOE can help me get access to make some videos about the Hanford site and a bunch of other areas they control.

[@DobuleDot]

@RadioactiveDrew Hanford YES ☢️ and again thank you for all y work .

[@admcnich]

First time commenting, long time watching. Loved the video, and was frustrated at the same time. The radiation contractor was a cool guy, open, honest, the other people act like they are litigating a court case. Cheers from Belgrade, MT.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

The people that deal with the tech side of things tend to be a bit more matter of fact and the people dealing with government office jobs tend to be more bureaucratic. It’s just the nature of the situation.

[@willb6070]

@@RadioactiveDrewagreed. Those are the ones that have headaches worried about what thyroid can and can’t say and how its worded.

[@glassmotion]

From someone who grew up right near here, thanks so much Drew for this doc. This made me so much less concerned about this site!

[@gregf9160]

Been looking forward to this Part II, Drew -- an hour in your company is _definitely_ an hour well-spent 🤗 I knew _nothing_ of this incident until your Part I discussion. Frankly, and horrifically, astonishing.

[@BoulevardRecording]

Fascinating and as a local, thank you. I have no doubt these guys wouldnt be walking around daily out there if it were a danger to their health. Keep up the good work!

[@RadioactiveDrew]

What I usually tell everyone about the site is don’t drink the well water or eat the dirt by the lab. Only because of the chemical contamination. The radiological contamination there is so slight it might cause problems if you were to sleep on a hot spot for years and years. For anyone not living right on those hot spots in the RCA, radiologic controlled area, the radiation poses zero threat.

[@DaveStewart-qo4bd]

As usual, a very well put together, informative video. I always look forward to your next video. Keep up the good work.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks. Its really cool that so many people enjoy these videos.

[@sski]

Nice work, Drew! I like your approach to radiation and nuclear energy in general. There is little to fear, much to be respected.

[@rashakawa]

I grew up in conoga park and Chatsworth. Right down the street from the Little store off of Thompson. Not only did my mother die from 3 different kinds of cancer but most of the children she went to school with have also died from cancer or lymphoma. I used to hike around up in the hills surrounding the test grounds during the early 90's. (From ages 7-12). Im now at the age where any I'll effects from coming in contact with hazardous materials would now or soon start showing itself. Hopefully any exposure I have come into contact with was minimal.

[@msmeyersmd8]

I hiked around there a couple of times in the early 1980s. But I lived in Alhambra and Glendale while I was going to USC Med School. You grew up after most of the terrible practices and contamination occured. So you're probably not likely to be effected. Unortunately your mother and her classmates weren't as lucky. My guess is they were exposed significantly by the drinking water. That's pure speculation, though. I am sorry you experienced these family tragedies.

[@steveschofro298]

In 1955 to 1959 my father was the quality control liaison team leader. He worked with Aerojet General. Prior a AAU weightlifting champion and champion wrestler. During one high exposure day, they were open burning the sodium and other chemicals associated with the three reactor areas there. The result was a brain damaged father and brother. Facial rash was evident. It destroyed our family over the decades. His exposure From one of the wealthiest families there going to military school to the six of us living in a 1000 foot house. I recently found old photos of his documents and photograph of the site and the materials such as fuel tanks. Hopefully my disabled brother can get help for housing as still disabled. Dad must have come home and exposed him. I stumbled on a video 6! Months ago and now I know why our family was destroyed.

[@msmeyersmd8]

I am very sorry that you and your family were so seriously, tragically and permanently affected by the cavalier attitude towards radioactive and toxic waste in the 1950s. Toxic Waste Burn Pits on US Miltary Bases in the Middle East in the 21st Century show that these terrible lessons still havn't been learned. I'm very sorry for your losses, pain and consequences caused by the tragedies of ignorance and callous expedience that occured at the Santa Susanna facilities.

[@LibraHammer]

These videos are so good and done so well. Thank you for keeping up the awesome uploads.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I try and keep them coming pretty regular. These last two videos took a lot of work.

[@giomas3728]

Awesome! Thousand kudos to you and all the people that appeared in the videos. Their professionality and passion for what they are doing is great. 💯💯💯

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks.

[@JohnLobbanCreative]

Excellent video, Drew. A part 3 when you’re invited back to that other area should be really interesting.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I’m really looking forward to go back there and doing a video about the SNAP reactor basement.

[@piparalegal2019]

This was so cool to watch and learn from! Thanks for taking this field trip, Drew, and giving us more information on this interesting place!

[@recklesswhisper]

I lived in Simi Valley almost my entire life and didn't learn about this until WAY after the fact. I have hiked every inch of those mountains. ^..^~~

[@Nuts-Bolts]

Thank you again for all your persistence in getting this visit Drew. It adds dimensions (of the human verity) that I would not be able glean from reading a dry survey report. Also for Joe Average, it puts the nature of such a site as this into readily understandable contexts (such as "as low as reasonably achievable" (ALARA)) and provides a good idea of how some of the work is carried out. The only protection I could see any of you taking against ionizing radiation were sunglasses and shady headwear (was Lucas also sporting snake guards or have those spider got really big fangs?). Out of curiosity, I checked to find rainfall at the peak of atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons in 1963 was about 16,000 picocuries per liter. Which is some 4,000 below current drinking water standards. Videos part one and two certainly neuters any fear-porn that may arise from the old Legacy Media. Therefore, I hope that you will be granted access to more interesting sites which are above background to show the everyday realities and interesting behind the scene stuff. Well done.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks...glad you liked it. Lucas, Josh, Colin and I were all wear snake gators. We didn't really need them for the RMHF area but I did want to go to the outside of the fence and look for stuff. We didn't have enough time to get everything in. Maybe next time.

[@msmeyersmd8]

I thought ALARA was Tax Planning and Compliance software? Oops. That is AVALARAaaaaaah.

[@rogerb4971]

Excellent work! Great explanations and demonstrations. Thanks!

[@RadioactiveDrew]

No problem...thanks for the comment.

[@tdombui]

Because of your first video, I decided to join a Zoom workshop that the Department Toxic Substance Control (DTSC) held for the community this last week. It was a crazy call. During the Q&A segment, local residents pretty much said that the DTSC were liars and that they were pandering on behalf of Boeing, NASA, and the DoE, accusing the DTSC of violating the original Administrative Order of Consent (AoC), written in 2010. I looked up the work experiences of the DTSC associates leading the call and I can conclude that there may be some gaslighting and pandering invovled. The lady who was leading the call (J Slaughter) has extensive history in television production (Viacom) and is therefore media-trained. There were some "scientists" involved in the call but they didn't contribute much to the conversation and did not address the concerns of the residents in the call. I thought it was interesting and thought I'd share it here.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I saw that invite for the zoom call in that Facebook group that deleted my post. Would be much more interesting to go to one of those meetings and talk to people in person. Video group calls always seem like a total mother cluster.

[@JohnChrysostom101]

Viacom was called the leviathan because they actually owned so many media companies well they are born liars owned and created by the same bastardsat AIPAC the ADL and hollywood Follow the Noses 👃

[@chrisbusenkell]

Fantastic video Drew! Left me kinda bitter though, but nobody likes discovering a population of people that you're jealous of...thanks and cheers to the folks working the area

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Glad you liked the video.

[@willb6070]

Great job on this video Drew. Was awesome to see live video from the areas and where they are today. Added additional context to reports, photos, etc I’ve seen from the past. And the spider was cool to see. Not a fan of them but had some cool markings.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@tonyb3400]

Thanks for making this 2 parter video. Very informative video and interesting conversations with the site officials. Great work Drew!

[@fixingstuff940]

I lived in Simi Valley for 12 years from 2000-2012 and there was a ton of talk around town about ground water contamination from the site. I believe there is on-going testing and clean-up going on. Thanks so much for this video for information and transparency Drew!!

[@rogerpenske2411]

Did anyone bother to test, or have their tap water tested?

[@JohnCouch-m4f]

Great video, really informative as usual Drew! Thank you once again!

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@_Musashi_13]

Thanks again Drew. Great vid. Interesting site, it looks as though clean up is going well. There seems to be a lot of physical monitoring as to what you can show and where you can test though, mainly due to the issue with Boeing being involved, but it’s that sort of censorship that makes people nervous and reminiscent of a lack of transparency but the DoE seemed very helpful. I would have loved to have seen a reading inside the vault :)

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I know, I talked with the people at DOE about the censorship coming from Boeing. Hopefully Boeing sees this video and realizes that its much easier to try and explain what's going on instead of having people guess.

[@justanumber427]

Wow! Great video! Kudos to all the folks on site for the great work they do!

[@Odinsbakery]

These videos are greatly appreciated and well made👍

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Glad you enjoy them.

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

Love your videos Drew. Cheers from Australia.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks man.

[@LtKernelPanic]

That was a cool and informative video. Can't wait for the next part. For everyone freaking out over the radiation levels shown I did a little comparison. When he showed the first reading that was .12uSv/hr I went and grabbed my Radiacode 103 and let it run sitting on my desk for the rest of the video where it registered a high pf .09 uSv/hr (~300-325 cpm) and settled on a steady .07 uSv/hr (~250-270 cpm). While the radiological contamination needs to be remediated I'd personally be a helluva lot more concerned with the mercury and CTF (I think that's what they said it was) than something that's only a few times over background if I lived near by. FWIW where I live in the Midwestern US is known to have higher concentrations of radon but thankfully where I live doesn't. The demo at the end of the video reminds me I really need to get a piece of Fiestaware or something similar for my collection.

[@bradboardwell8295]

Drew, another AWESOME video from you!!!! Appreciate your efforts on this one. It is kinda irritating though in today's litigious world where these guys are so limited by what they can say and having to defer everything to several different entities. I would have loved to just have you narrate the entire thing by yourself. Without any of these guides, I think we could have gotten a lot better information out of you. Because you wouldn't have to defer to several different entities and done the research and then presented it to all of us in one fluid video. Not pulling apart any of the video, or saying anything negative about your end of things. Just hate it when you ask a question, And even though they probably know the answer they can't say it do to their jobs... keep up with the awesome work, brother!!!!👍🏼💪🏻💪🏻

[@borghorsa1902]

Nuclear energy is the safest and the greenest form of energy😎

[@TheSilmarillian]

Yep it is these days by far .

[@davea6037]

when its properly controlled and regulated like almost every single modern reactor in modern countries. Not, crucially, when its an experimental test reactor in an unshielded tin shack sandwiched between major metropolitan areas stationed with underpaid, underqualified contractors being pushed for results asap.

[@TheSilmarillian]

@@davea6037 There be truth in that luckily times have changed for the better.

[@candui-7]

Safe as long as you don't live on the planet doing the extraction.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

@candui-7 are you talking about mining for uranium? If so that has become as safe as mining for anything else.

[@LogicalNiko]

I love how they said that the part 1 video was not factual. You walked in, did a safety briefing, and then looked at the air filter and survey Geiger counters. You didn’t even walk through the site yet.

[@paulmobleyscience]

It probably had more to do with the comment section where Drew stated that no contamination was released during the Woolsey fire and trying to compare external exposure on an airplane to cosmic rays to internal exposures on the surface of Alpha and Beta particles.

[@JustAnotherTrader]

The DOE guy is soooooo careful about his responses.

[@lookingbehind6335]

Unfortunately he isn’t careful with his ahh and umm game. Absolutely horrible listening to him

[@rogerpenske2411]

Because he beez woikin fo da gubmint

[@sethrice9939]

Love these two vids. Also, cracking up because you and the radiological guy reminded me of that scene in Step Brothers. “Did we just become best friends!?!?” “Yup!!” Then thinking, I too would be getting excited about all you guys were discussing, which made me think of Zach G in the back seat of the car singing “Kuz we’re the three best friends that anyone could ever have…”

[@BangerangBen]

The tour guide did a great job. He does sort of remind me of Professor Frink.

[@recklesswhisper]

Yes, they sent somebody that doesn't really know the true background of the incident. ^..^~~

[@DudleyToolwright]

I do appreciate your trip and coverage.

[@lifeteen2]

I don't know what Boeing is doing wrong, but it's definitely something, and it's something to do with those outfalls. Those are the most sus "ground rules", you weren't even interested in the outfalls in the first place, they brought them up.

[@todkapuz]

its purely PR... the people that live there are politically active in anything rainwater/drinking water... boeing just doesnt want to deal with anything from the fear mongering side. its not that complicated.

[@mikedickinson9730]

Big companies that are in bed with the government or EPA get a pass on their operations and lack of protocol.

[@darrengladstone3159]

It's lawyer language because they are in litigation.

[@matthewbeasley7765]

Saying that most of the daughter products stayed in the reactor is a bit misleading. It stayed in the reactor because the primary sodium stays entirely inside the reactor vessel. The reactor vessel contained the heat exchanger that transferred the heat to the mercury. That points out one of the reasons a metal cooled reactor is pretty safe: it keeps the non-gas daughter products in solution in the coolant. This would have been all well and good with the SRE if it wasn't due to how they disposed of the contaminated sodium coolant. They placed it in barrels, dumped the barrels in a pond and shot them with a reactor. That resulted in the daughter products being spread far and wide in the smoke cloud emitted from the burning sodium.

[@huntersmillie00]

Yeah sounds like from the video that guy was saying the contaminated sodium barrels were just recklessly disposed of. Very stupid, but during those times they were just "winging it" most of the time I guess.

[@Diamonddavej]

Sodium-22 is the longest lived radioactive isotope of sodium, half life if 2.6 years. If it was generated during reactor operation, it should be nearly all decayed by now. However, there was probably sodium-22 released from thd burn pits but no lasting evidence of this. If sodium-22 was generated depends on neutron energy when the reactor was running.

[@matthewbeasley7765]

@@Diamonddavej The issue isn't the sodium itself. The issue is the fission daughter products that are dissolved into or reacted with the sodium. Cesium, Strontium, Cadmium, and Tin are all medium lived daughter products that would be soluble in the sodium. Iodine would become Sodium Iodide. They would remain in the sodium until it was burned, in which case they all became airborne contaminants.

[@jethrox827]

On another subject, what happened to the sand they dumped in that port, after sandblasting the ships that came back from the nuke test? Always interesting stories 👍🇦🇺

[@halcyondaystunes]

Wow, Boeing seems to have a history of effing things up don't they. 😬 I might get fact checked for that comment😂 Great video again, Drew.

[@weedmanwestvancouverbc9266]

It's hard to know the history but Boeing may have inherited this liability when it bought a company. Assuming its patents its technology its facilities Personnel equipment and of course the mistakes that it made that it would have to fix

[@todkapuz]

it was a different time back then.... the promise of all the good of nuclear this and that. Far less understanding of the true dangers. But this pretty sure is from some of the early "looking for a better rocket" stuff.... nuclear rocket engine is still an incredibly efficient engine... but... yeah.... has its draw backs that make it not very desirable now.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

@halcyondaystunes thanks, glad you liked the video. Boeing isn't the one that was so haphazard with what was going on there. Right when they took control of the site in 1996 most of the activities had stopped. At that point they took over the cleanup responsibilities, which are a giant headache for anyone.

[@Crowdog1234]

@@todkapuz 100% spot on. And so, the NAA grows multiple heads that inherit the environmental fines, thus distancing itself from responsibility. Of course the problem is, WE ARE STILL a high density cancer risk population here. Grrr

[@Crowdog1234]

@@RadioactiveDrew All the same leviathan. Talley Corp., NAA. There is more to look at than SSFL alone.

[@Live.Vibe.Lasers]

lol..Boeing doesn't want you to see the glowing green water pouring out of the "outfalls".

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

Yea if that’s the case, pretty sure all the employees will strike for hiding the truth. Most people who work are contractors

[@ToTheGAMES]

Glowing green?

[@willb6070]

Boeing has so many other issues to deal with at the moment that have a lot more media exposure. Don’t need/want anything else to add to it at the moment.

[@bower31]

Boeing has an ongoing lawsuit regarding water in Washington, the last thing they want is to willingly allow someone on their land to take pictures of something and make new true or false allegations about them

[@theoneyoudontsee8315]

about half threw the video i was going to comment on how it compares to uranium plates you find in antique stores then you covered that at the end. Great video does a good job showing the government programs do know what there doing and can do a good job. thanks for helping with the issues of trust that really is the most important thing showing the clean up is getting dune well by competent professionals who care.

[@bigcatauna]

I was born and raised in simi and still live there (47 yrs), I remember almost every day they tested rockets, my neighbors both worked up there and got severe dementia?????

[@rogerpenske2411]

Dementia, ya, that’s the ticket. Can’t trust anything that they say about radioactive contamination

[@hamrepair3815]

Now go visit Pantex in Texas.

[@Slimpawws]

Very interesting site! Never heard of it prior to your reveal. This reminds me of a site in Humboldt that used to house a nuclear plant. A lot of history there, I think there's even some hot materials stored and filled in there.

[@RyeOnHam]

It's hilarious seeing everybody walking around with the snake chaps on. I used to walk all over those hills and encountered maybe a dozen snakes over probably 8 years I was really active doing that stuff. On trails. Off trails. Camping, etc. No problems. Only once or twice did they startle me. About half of them curled up but most were trying to hide or get away. None tried to strike.

[@confuseatronica]

likewise, i grew up slightly south of there and have seen so few rattlesnakes, something about this whole area makes it not good snake habitat. I've actually seen the most snakes right on the edges of housing and parks, where I think they try to eat the rodents that live on people's trash. Still growing up around there and hiking/bicycling all over there, I think I saw fewer than 10 rattlesnakes ever, maybe closer to 5.

[@ethanoconnor7367]

TONS of snakes up there.

[@RobRoyRoadie]

I have a neighbor who’s only seen one rattler in his entire life, and that’s the one that bit him.

[@TheSilmarillian]

yep be careful leave them alone they will leave you alone you are in their house.

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

It’s probably part of their safety plan

[@davidk8184]

I live in Santa Clarita about 15 miles from the SSFL. I was always curious as to what was up there and how much radiation was left there. Thanks for the visit.

[@kevinmask8652]

How cool Drew you’ve been where very few have. Thanks DOE for collaborating in this video.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

It was pretty cool. That's what I like about doing this KZbin channel more than anything, is getting access to site most can't get into.

[@tjshere206]

@@RadioactiveDrew DOE should give you a private tour of Hanford next.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

@@tjshere206 that would be awesome. Hopefully we can work something out in the near future. Would really like to talk with the people working there.

[@msmeyersmd8]

Actually, lots of people have been there. However, they were paid. Drew did this for fun, a little YT cash, but mostly as a favor to those of us who can't go there.

[@BangerangBen]

I just KNEW that Vault-Tec had built a vault under those concrete slabs. “Following total atomic annihilation, the rebuilding of this great nation may fall to YOU.”

[@rickmastenbroek5447]

The outfall irradiated water is seeping through the cracks of the vault and turned the 1960's vaultdwellers into ghouls ☢️🤢

[@sectionbysection429]

Stem pack me now

[@TheRealBobHickman]

Very informative. Thanks for doing this video.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

No problem. Thanks for watching and the comment.

[@oldminer5387]

Thank you Drew for reporting on this site. I think you did a very good job of explaining the radiological side of things. Seems to me the most hazardous component of the site is now chemical. GIven the time frame the site was in operation and what was done at the site I'm not to surprised the soil and ground water are impacted. Times were different then and for example chlorinated hydrocarbons were widely used with no thought they would contaminate the soil, water or ground water.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Glad you enjoyed the video. You are totally right about how the past actions chemically contaminated the soil and ground water. There is radiological contamination on the site but it’s not in an amount that would harm anyone from an exposure standpoint.

[@markrix]

I've always thought it was strange that you can heat up rocks and get mercury but putting it back into the ground is a problem. Guess it's all about concentration.

[@drop-and-run]

Putting mercury back on earth is not a problem, the problem is when it goes where water is

[@msmeyersmd8]

Like Einstein said. The solution to pollution is dilution.

[@candui-7]

Toxicity in dirt piles is typically related to the crushing of the ore/mess and release of dust otherwise locked up in crystal structure.

[@markrix]

@@candui-7 right interesting, if we can make diamonds why couldn't we just do that

[@paulmobleyscience]

Just further proved that the devices we can buy off the shelf dont compare to what's used in the field and doesnt fully represent minor contamination that can be taken up internally and be deposited in various parts of the body and causing an increase in exposure.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Most Geiger counters you could buy off of Amazon would be able to detect this same radiation.

[@alexisvan222]

@@RadioactiveDrew Is it true that swallowing a minute particle of something radioactive can cause bodily damage, something that cannot be measured with a Geiger counter? This is what Dr. Dodge claimed when he lectured at one of PASSFLs events in July.

[@paulmobleyscience]

@RadioactiveDrew Most gieger counters aren't set up to detect Alpha and Beta emitters and the ones that can are so out of reach in price to the majority of the population they can't purchase them to begin with. Even the Radiacode can not directly detect Alpha and Beta emitters

[@msmeyersmd8]

Yes. That is, unfortunately, very true.

[@Azuss]

Mellisa is crazy, I shared this in the Simi Valley group forum on Facebook as well and she lost it in my comments 😅

[@RadioactiveDrew]

She doesn't seem like someone that wants to have a discussion that's for sure.

[@wemme]

Awesome video as always.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks.

[@kuhrd]

That feeling when you are walking around an area where a meltdown occurred and radiation is pretty much background and lower than the areas in the US that have naturally occurring radiation sources in the soil.

[@equaltothetaskaviation6440]

thanks Drew, super interesting. great production

[@CAMacKenzie]

What radioactive elements are naturally in the sandstone? I grew up (and still live) in the San Fernando Valley and I remember hearing the roar and sometimes seeing glow from rocket tests when I was a kid back in the '50s. Were the rats radioactive? Sounds like the scenario for a 1950s monster movie. Half life of tritium is short. I'd think it should be almost undetectable by now unless a lot were spilled.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Uranium, radium and thorium are naturally found in all kinds of different rocks. The tritium will be detectable for the next 100 years or less.

[@Alexander-productionsDe]

at 1:02:46 it says that the highest level detected by the radiacode was 1.64 Sv/hr, shouldn't it be mSv? 1.64 Sv/hr sound quite a lot. Really great video though!

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Wow, that was a big over site by me. Its suppose to say uSv/hr. Lets see if I can correct that in the KZbin editor. Thanks for catching that.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Added a subtitle to correct that on the video. Hopefully it pops up when playing.

[@nosleep7026]

Very cool, love those guys they seem to really know their stuff

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Everyone was very professional.

[@Polo-Hat]

I could be wrong but I think a 2 part episode of The Six Million Dollar Man was filmed on-site there back in the mid 1970s.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Could have been…I didn’t hear anything about film or TV history there.

[@nickking2641]

That was interesting, thanks for the tour!!!

[@hmbpnz]

Why are they so concerned about videoing the outfalls?

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

Because that’s Boeings property and the video was cleared with DOE

[@msmeyersmd8]

That's what hidden cameras are for.

[@luddite333]

two headed animals scurrying around lol

[@hmbpnz]

@@anudhajayakulasuriya5807 still didn't answer the question

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

@@hmbpnz it’s like this. Im your neighbor and I try to shoot a video of my newly bought bbq grill and all its glory. It’s in my backyard but your wife’s sunbathing in your backyard and I can clearly see your wife and all her glory. Wouldn’t You tell me not get a closeup of your wife,but if she’s in the background it’s fine because you’re a reasonable person?

[@Norm-Hill-Three]

AWESOME INTERESTING Video' . Thank you.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

No problem, glad you liked it.

[@pak7524]

Thanks for documentary about nuclear truth.

[@AdricM]

Neat. i didnt know we ever had any functioning molten salt reactors. but should have known they were tried.

[@missano3856]

All these reactors that are the new shiny thing have been tried in the go go days. Most of them occurred to guys at Los Alamos in their spare time during the Manhattan Project. We should build serious numbers of PWR's, BWR's and CANDU'S rather than flitting about for some different thing. Like most nuke enthusiasts I am fascinated with fast reactors tho.

[@luddite333]

Bill Gates building one now in Wyoming so THEYRE BACK !

[@MoparAdventure]

Trying to coverup stormwater runoff huh Boeing?

[@miker6546]

Are you planning on producing a video on the July 24, 1964 Wood river junction criticality accident?

[@clemsonbloke]

There were a lot of excursion incidents in the early years on several sites. Crazy stuff.

[@permanentlypatriotic]

Giving boeing more bad press by just the thumbnail. Boeing is only the cleanup crew on this disaster.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Very true.

[@ausnorman8050]

They could just not clean up, glad they are still tbh.

[@rogerpenske2411]

OutSTANDING

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks

[@DownEastSaw]

Woah, was the meltdown as dangerous as the Nuclear meltdown that happened right around the same area at the same time period? I don’t remember much press about the event your talking about. Maybe I’m spelling it wrong?

[@ericmcdonald9803]

The partial meltdown at the SRE was the meltdown you are referring to. There were other accidents and releases from various other experiments/reactors (including fires and releases of fission gases), but the main "meltdown" was the one at the SRE.

[@luddite333]

if future firefighters use water to fight fire there - like in the Woolsey fire - how does that runoff water get dealt with ?

[@RadioactiveDrew]

I was told that the rain water onsite at SSFL is collected and treated. Not sure how effective it is but its better than nothing.

[@luddite333]

@@RadioactiveDrew really glad you are asking the complicated questions - have you visited Hanford yet ? my ex wife flies firefighting aircraft in CALI so these issues keep me up at night sometimes - have you visited the ROCKY FLATS place in Colorado ? wow they have a history there

[@MotoXplor]

Since there isn't much of a danger of radioactivity, what's taking so long to clean up the chemical aspect of this place?

[@tankerkiller125]

We have an EPA brownfield site near me, it's been getting cleaned up for over 3 decades. Apparently removing dangerous chemicals from soil is hard to do. And made harder when the EPA doesn't know where it's all located. (They were getting ready to release an area of it to some developers that they thought they had cleaned, only for a former worker at the plant that was once there to go to the news that there were chemical barrels buried 6 feet underground there and a development shouldn't be there).

[@recklesswhisper]

Because there is a LOT of it! ^..^~~

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

Politics.

[@recklesswhisper]

@@anudhajayakulasuriya5807 They don't care anymore... you see the cancers overflowing into Simi Valley? ^..^~~

[@TheTarrMan]

The spiders scare me more than anything. Or like the actual act of the "hysteria" scares me more than the actual scenario, "if something were to happen". People are way too sensitive about radiation and it's kinda getting out of hand. As they said, it's the actual chemicals that are fear worthy, but right now everything is under control. Their main objection of filming certain things is probably like, they don't want somebody to recognize a model number from one of the obscure computer boxie thingys and hacking one of the pumps, valves, sensors or Lord knows anything else responsible for managing all of that, with their flipper zero or whatever. I imagine rainwater runoff and sewage usage are still really big strategic concerns to them with how their decontamination network operates, but other than that there's absolutely nothing wrong with the radiation. Kinda a miracle they were able to get it that low.

[@williamlabarre4755]

0.14? Heck I get 0.13 in my living room. Rounding error.

[@om617yota7]

Me too. I have radioactive camping lantern mantles that are way more spicy.

[@krz8888888]

This guy / boeing situation does not gives a vibe of openness. Still interesting

[@BoulevardRecording]

Boeing owns the site and since they’re bound by the state department and national defense, it makes plenty of sense. I live here. Believe me. They won’t let you in. Boeing owns the facility

[@IIIAnchani]

so what I take away from this is that they want to downplay the whole thing and not take responsibility for what happened. Quite sad, to be fair, as in a first world country, such incidents should be talked about transparently. They should show you everything, as would be befitting for a country trying to be transparent with journalists. I find it ridiculous how they want to say "oh, nothing happened" when cancer rates are clearly above normal, hinting to exposure of >100 mSv, which is quite the ridiculous amount in modern days and modern situations. Yes, it could have other reasons, there could be airborne particles not related to any kind of accident there at all, but downplaying the accident and not allowing video of certain areas simply sends the message "yes, it was us, but we don't want to have anyone know about it." And that is completely unacceptable.

[@RideFaster]

all of them were down playing it.... even Drew....they took him to all the weak spots....

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

@@RideFasterwait how do you know?

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

For them to show us everything, Drew needs to get approval from Boeing and he only got permission for DOE owned sites.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

@IIIAnchani no one is being exposed to anything close to 100 mSv. I understand that radiation is a hard subject for people to understand.

[@Cruisealba]

On the radiation map the 0.04 Sv/hr and 1.64 Sv/hr are real? Sievert? Thats not possible.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

It’s a typo because the editing program I was using, Davinci Resolve, didn’t like the Greek symbol for micro that I used in that graphic. So it’s suppose to say uSv/hr.

[@Cruisealba]

@@RadioactiveDrew Oh, thats so okay. Thanks the quick info. :)

[@rogerpenske2411]

A partial meltdown? Is that anything like “melty cheese” on a Jack In The Box burger?

[@alexisvan222]

Sort of like melting 25% of the cheese. That's roughly how much plutonium melted out of the total.

[@drop-and-run]

Maybe its an stupid question but could radiation punch visible holes into aluminuum sheet? Or if thats even possible how strong should it be?

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Depends on the intensity of the radiation and type. Alpha radiation, which is basically helium nuclei traveling very fast, can cause microscopic pits to form on glass.

[@wyliesdiesels4169]

been waiting for this to drop lol

[@hindenpeter2.04]

Yeah heard about it on the one & only Dana Durnford's nuclear for dummies/daily melt stream.

[@lancelessard2491]

All places on Earth has some amount of radiation. This doesn't look like there is anything beyond what would be encountered just walking around anywhere. Basements have more radiation from naturally occurring radon gas. Some actually even seek out radon exposure believing it has medicinal value for many conditions.

[@Captain_Char]

the fact my one clock face trips the alarm on my one ludlum only set for 1Rad but still, some dial faces are spicier then most of this area now

[@msmeyersmd8]

It's completely and totally different if the radiation is ingested in the lungs or gut. Like the water draining from this place or the dust, dirt or smoke from burning fire pits. I feel certain that you know that. If not? Don't lick your radium dials.

[@BangerangBen]

Spiders are so awesome even little ones

[@crtune]

Most people probably do not know that they get more radiation near certain types of ROCKS. Some minerals have nucleotides within their structure, but these are typically not emitting large quantity of emission. The higher the altitude one is at, say while hiking, or while taking air flight, one is exposed to more radiation because the planet is getting solar radiation all the time. The air in the atmosphere inhibits this, but higher altitude = more radiation. These readings seem some increase over background, but it's obviously quite slight. It's important for regular citizens to get familiar with ACTUAL AMOUNTS of radiation, like they are with actual amounts of electricity - we understand what is meant by 240 volts. We should also be able to understand radiation meter readings. This facility has multiple challenges since the reactor was here, but also there is CHEMICAL contamination and that is a serious issue to deal with.

[@todkapuz]

sadest thing is people are so afraid of radiation... but then 1) put granite counter tops in their homes and 2) never bother testing for and treating the radon in their homes. As smoking declines.. radon will take over as the next primary cause of lung cancers... from our "tight, energy efficient homes" that often lack air exchange mechanisms or simple radon mitigation systems.

[@cloudalien443]

How some people advocate for the dismantling of organisations like the EPA and the DOE is beyond me.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

They want to spend the money elsewhere and don't care how it effects the lowly citizens. To be fair, most of these regulatory agencies aren't really doing their jobs.

[@cloudalien443]

@@DirtyPlumbus There's always room for improvement and accountability but setting one's house on fire and burning it to the ground because a couple of rooms need renovating is hardly sensible.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

@cloudalien443 True. It's already been proven to be a mistake. Trump lowered regulations on food and medicine and look at what's happening, people are dying. Lack of accountability is a serious issue with all levels of our government, and it doesn't sound like that is going to change.

[@uberdang830]

That's actually not true. Also the FDA is pay to play. It is an organization that could care less about health and safety along as you pay them to approve your product.

[@rogerpenske2411]

Because the DOE has completely failed us. It funds all kinds of political nonsense. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission can be a Bureau within the Commerce Department, as with the few other agencies that actually do something.

[@Gargoyle_Guy]

Funny your video got deleted for misinformation when you literally talked with experts in their field who do this as their job every day. Like what?

[@MultipleObjectSelector]

Well, it did get deleted from a Facebook group after all - the sort of place well known for high quality and factual information.

[@morganjeffreymorgan]

Welcome to the “free” states………

[@bower31]

Because once people believe they're the victim of something and that they have definitely discovered their problems are someone's fault, they will only seek things to confirm it. They're gonna reject anything that doesn't confirm their bias

[@mjrippe]

Five minutes in, and I can't keep up with the ACRONYMS!

[@_Musashi_13]

When you watch more of his videos you pick up on the lingo after a while. After you watch his earlier vids you’ll be fine. He’s a great documentarian

[@lookingbehind6335]

Or the ahh and umm spewing from dude’s mouth.

[@Captain_Char]

T Folse Nuclear would like this video just for the insight

[@rogerpenske2411]

Nuclear urban renewal in LA! Far out man!

[@w2385-i2s]

That's that scrap on your calf?

[@HolyCannolis]

Take a shot 🥃 every time you hear an “uhhh” or “ahhh” or “ummm”…. 🤦‍♂️

[@anudhajayakulasuriya5807]

To be fair this is footage of at least 3 hours. Now don’t tell me you won’t do any fillers words at all😂 But don’t you find peace in that these companies are being transparent and more honest?

[@luddite333]

@@anudhajayakulasuriya5807 more honest doesnt mean much considering the complete lack of disclosure when this originally occurred

[@nathandouglasmusic]

👏👏👏legend

[@RadioactiveDrew]

Thanks.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

Alot of animal traffic in the area.

[@RadioactiveDrew]

There is...

[@wyliesdiesels4169]

where does the radiological contamination come from if the SRE didnt leak anything other than noble gases?

[@djshnibz]

From the video, it appears that the actual area where the reactor was was at background levels (aka naturally occuring), the contamination at the other building site where radioactive materials were handled was from fission products (cesium). Those fission products are produced while the reactor is operating and contained in the systems that supported the reactor's operation, the contamination was from a spill of those products.

[@msmeyersmd8]

When was the spill. That is really important to know. When they were demolishing the building? When water got into the underground vaults? That's information that should be available.

[@mikehensley78]

Who is the HMFIC at that site, i wonder.

[@PCMenten]

I’m noticing the gaiters. Never seen that before.

[@Menlotrevor]

Rattlesnakes

[@mikelastname]

@@Menlotrevorah-ha. The actual danger at the site.

[@msmeyersmd8]

Rattlesnakes? Maybe. I used to hunt a lot of them in Northern California. I just wore tough high boots, high thick wool socks and heavy duty pants or jeans. These guys look like pansies. Probably an OSHA requirement for radioactive poisonous snake venom bite risk. 😂 Or they don't want to contaminate their pants? You be the Judge.

[@luddite333]

@@Menlotrevor I thought they were chaps of lead lol

[@mdog6726]

We are dedicated to clean up. What are you cleaning up? Um, do you remember? Did you discover the history of the professor and the scientists that perished? Also, they were lighting experimental rocket fuel on fire that must have seeped in to the ground water. I visited the site in 2010 and they were already cleaning as a superfund site.

[@EnergyTRE]

I'll bet they were shaking in their boots with you there 😂. Thanks for the share. Glad they are holding up to their responsibilities. Sucks when all have to pay for one person's carelessness. ♾️🙏

[@EnergyTRE]

Different opinions but only one truth.

[@EnergyTRE]

I always think of radiation as like a light going through most things. Lead gives shade to the light source or radiation source.

[@SpiritOfTheHeretic]

@1:02:45 it looks like your decimal is off for Sieverts

[@RadioactiveDrew]

The key is suppose to say uSv/hr. DaVinci Resolve didn’t like the Greek micro symbol I tried to use.

[@goalieman2669]

Does anyone know what those leg covers are that they all seem to be wearing?

[@vforvitti]

Snakes😉

[@bower31]

Snake gaiters, rattlesnakes in the area