I bought the CHEAPEST rod I could find!

[@richpeas1924]

You need a rod pod next. It does go to show you don't have to follow the crowd & get all the latest gear. This sort of fishing takes me back. Using mismatched rods & reels & a rod pod built by the local scaffolding company, me mums foldaway garden chair, just like the one Grahame from TA fishing sometimes uses. Half a tin of luncheon meat nicked out of the fridge for bait. Happy days.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Sounds like fun 😁

[@danielwilson1105]

Nothing more repellent, for me, than a bunch of tarty twats thinking their gear will catch them fish.

[@deathyofgodwin]

please please please do a series where you buy second hand stuff and go on a fishing campaign slowly gathering things over the summer, it would be something different to the mainstream

[@danielwilson1105]

Sounds ambiguous and not at all gripping

[@alexstapleton7360]

Great to see you on your old channel Joe. Keep it up buddy love the vids

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Thank you 😁

[@Myles989]

Dragon carp sent the nostalgic bells off in my head! Used to spend all my time on that site when I was younger - Great video

[@danielwilson1105]

Haha, I always went second hand because dragon carp was a bit dodge.

[@MRT.1977]

Great video, I remember using float and carp rods made from a "composite" material, still have the rods somewhere. What about buying an old quiver rod or even use a swing tip(you rarely see a swing tip anymore). Keep up the good work with these videos 👍👍👍

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Rods that could have knots tied in them and still not snap? 🤣

[@MRT.1977]

LOL

[@danielwilson1105]

Swing tips blast from the past.

[@raywalpole9390]

Good old Roger Surgay, who started Dragon Carp, among other brands. Used to do tackle shows around the country, "the man on the mic" and his motto was "pile them high and sell them cheap". Also had a couple of shops in the Hucknall area and a warehouse I believe in Chesterfield. The major brands did not like what he was doing to their industry but it worked. I still have a pair of Avanti twin top Barbel Rods I got from the Kettering show about 15 or more years ago.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Cheers for watching and thanks for the info 😁

[@jamesrussel1133]

I still have brilliant 8 section “travel X” 12’ carbon match rods. Pack away to nothing for the boot of a car or fishing off a motorbike. Yes bound to be a bit heavier than a 2 piece but honestly the action is lovely and you cannot tell once it is up. In fact I landed a 16lb carp on said float rod crucian fishing a couple of weeks back. Great fun, has no great resale value for tackle thieves, it takes some abuse, and like of lot of his factory direct stuff has been the most amazing value. He knew he was pretty much hated by the other retailers around him on the big shows, but he kind of thrived off that. And who’s stall was always the busiest? No prizes for guessing.

[@markbritton6485]

Nice to see you back on the screen more regularly Joe! Good content as usual & great idea about the giveaway at the end of the series. I remember dragoncarp - think they were the sports direct of fishing - RRP £199.99 but our price is £29.99 lol. My fist course rod was a 3 piece rod, a kingfisher brand from Argos & caught many a fish @ £14.99. Think 'we' all over complicate fishing but it's definitely good to have different price points to cater to the whole spectrum of anglers. Something simple like free lining with bread will always catch a fish or two no matter the gear used above the water's surface 🎣

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Cheers for watching. Glad you enjoyed it 😁

[@markbritton6485]

@@nuffinbutfishing ​​⁠ Also, congratulations on the marriage, getting your house & the impending new arrival. Certainly grown up from the initial Joe in the vids lol. Are any of the old crew still fishing?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

@markbritton6485 thank you 😁 yeah they are, just not as much. Sam fishes the most Still but he's a father of 2 now as well!

[@jamesrussel1133]

Close…Knew Roger pretty well hailing from mining country up in a Nottingham. He sold his business to Sports Direct who eventually sold off his superstores. So sad, great starter prices and a lot was much better quality than you think. The retail price on many items typically £99 but tag price £29.99, the higher price was a fair reflection of what a normal retailer would ask for the same quality with their mark up. It was no con, just bulk buying direct from the factory with no middle man mark up. His margins were low but his sales volumes massive and he did angling a great service by making it accessible to the kids too. I still use 2 lovely 2 3/4 carp rods. Super slim, the eyes carbon whipped, top end looks and performance but I think they were around the £50 mark. A simple label went on instead..” Purist Carp”. My last fish on one of them was a scraper 40lb common caught hook and hold style, float fishing the snaggy margins of a lake in France. Perfect for that and floater fishing to this day. I have more expensive kit but I love those rods. Clearly with high spec features the story goes they were a production run for one of the big tackle companies in the U.K., but the deal fell through leaving them as surplus stock. As Roger was a regular reliable customer they were offered instead to him at a stupid price which clearly he accepted. I suspect had that big name company taken them on they would have been sold at around the £150 mark. We lucky folk in Notts got first dibs in his local Hucknall store and enjoyed some incredible bargains for sure.

[@paulAnthony7236]

I remember in the mid 80s using 11ft 2.5lb tc rods by sundridge and abu cardinal reels magno bite alarms and monkey climbers good times.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Sounds like that may have been before my time in angling 😁

[@paulAnthony7236]

@@nuffinbutfishing I'm getting on now but in the late 70s 80s we used to dream about what we have now but didn't expect carp fishing to take off ,the old days were magical for us unfortunately carp anglers younger ones missed out,we never had dvds KZbin ect we made our own tackle experimented with baits and new methods I did get laughed at alot at the start of the 80s using what we call zig fishing now.when I caught loads then they stopped laughing.Nice to have those memories.And the gear and knowledge we have now for carp is amazing,we have come on along way and I love it.Anyway tight lines mate and looking forward to seeing the next video.

[@philheaton638]

Absolutely love these types of videos. As anglers we've become obsessed with having all the latest gear...well i know i have and spent a fortune doing so. We forget that we all started somewhere, with cheap tackle and caught loads of fish. Newcomers to the sport must look at prices of tackle and be put off. Great advice looking at the second hand markets

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Glad you enjoyed it 😁

[@JABBOTTUK]

Yes… You did the Marketplace challenge. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Yeah. Likely more to come too 😁

[@DjDolHaus86]

I think Dragon Carp got swallowed by the Sports Direct group, Avanti was their sub brand. Lineaffe were another sub brand for one of the big online tackle retailers, Total fishing or something like that?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Yeah quite a few comments have said similar 😁

[@08angler]

I love these videos, so calm and informative, giving us future video ideas too! 😅 Cheers for these high quality films

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Haha, glad you enjoyed it 😁

[@PB0374]

Hi Joe. Im looking to get a cheap short packed down rod to handle 30lb carp. Would you recommend the sonik xtractor 9ft 3lb rod? Is the sonik xtractor 5000 reel ok or should i get a bait runner?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

@PB0374 that rod will be plenty strong enough 👌🏻 as for the reel, baitrunner or not is just personal preference

[@PB0374]

@@nuffinbutfishing Hi Joe and thanks so much for the reply. Tbh I'm only just starting out on big carp fishing so wasnt too sure about which reel to go for. I just assumed the 5000 reel was made to pair up with this rod, but when I watched your videos using baitrunner reels, it made me question whether I needed one. 😂

[@MartynsAnglingAdventures]

Just goes to show even on the lowest of budgets you can still have an enjoyable time and catch fish along the way

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Definitely 😁

[@leesagar8651]

Dragon carp and Lineaeffe bring back memories lol when I wasn't as serious about my fishing and not hunting for specimen fish I used to have a lot of dragon carp stuff. Always remember it being hit and miss, like their line sucked but their rods were brill sort of thing lol. I had 2 solid Lineaeffe bait runners too that saw me pull carp in to 18lbs but by the time I was catching 20's etc I'd upgraded as I wanted to hit the 20 and 30's club and possibly beyond so needed to get serious and obtain the gear up for the job. Brought back some good memories seeing those brands again, I heard that sports direct bought dragon carp out.

[@FPSWildlifeAngler]

you need to remember to oil the gears then it will sound better and be smoother reeling in a fish

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Don't think this reel has ever had a service so I will trust that it is happiest being left untouched 🤣

[@MartinTeerly]

I have feeder rod Preston supera I bought from the marketplace and I caught plenty tench on it. However I wanna fish for carp but I don't want to buy specific carp rod. Can I stick with what I got just use stronger line ?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Depends how soft the rod is. You can catch carp on softer rods for sure but bigger more powerful carp may start to test the rod a bit more

[@MartinTeerly]

@@nuffinbutfishing hmmmm I don't know how soft it is just because I haven't used that many rods. I also have guru n-guage and drennan vertex however that guru feels softer than supera but supera only can cast 40gr

[@chipnroll]

been fishing 30+ years started very young got my first carp at 7 teenage years fishing rivers and ponds for tench and bream etc and then onto carp but if im fishing for anything im happy 20+ years ago we didnt have the best gear we caught loads! my first carp rods was Ron Thomson lol loved them

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Happy days 😁 cheers for watching

[@kevindavies1238]

Hiya Joe I believe dragon carp were a company called badger originally and were sold by a sports company named Decathlon.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Thanks for the information 😁

[@theonlyescapeissleep]

I remember badger lol I usto have a badger bivvy and bed and it was better than all my mates, that was back in the late 90s

[@punk138pete7]

My first carp setup was a Badger Black Shadow set bought 2005. My grandson has now started carp fishing with those rods

[@LondonPredatorAngler]

enjoyed that joe, good stuff mate!

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Great to hear, cheers 😁

[@proskipper1]

Big fan of softer medium action rod I fly fish and find it protects the tippet / hook length.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Not to mention it's good fun too 😁

[@lukepayne6207]

Proper reel that one will never let you down

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Managed these 5 angry carp for sure 💪🏻

[@Padrat1]

I had a pair of those rods I remember ordering them via mail order in high school i didn’t have the money for a full badger set up lol, I thought I was the bollox down the local 1 acre runs water where the 50 yard cast to the far margin was a big chuck, a kilo of dynamite squid and octopus would last weeks, proper noddy days great times

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Sounds like great fun though noddy or not 😁

[@nickfarmer8928]

When the misses interrupted 😂😂😂

[@nuffinbutfishing]

No courtesy at all!

[@hojo9879]

Use the small landing net for bream that way you don't gunge up your main net.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

That's the plan 🤣

[@jamesrussel1133]

Dragon Carp was Roger Surgeys brand in Nottingham. He sourced his stuff direct from Chinese factories, hence the Dagon. Without the middle man he stacked it high, sold it cheap without a huge mark up. He did the big tackle shows as the “ man on the mike”. How can you not know what that is doing tackle reviews? Not around any more in the trade having sold up, it’s a shame because a lot of the stuff was amazing value and brilliant for starters on a budget. Hope this doesn’t upset you but he sold carp rods like this as cheap as £10 and baitrunner reels £10 too. So what you paid was about their new price! 😂

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Thanks for the info. I had an almost identical comment the other day. Guessing it was you?

[@stevenmoses5807]

I bought my youngest son a carp rod from Go outdoors five years ago for £15 it's still going strong today hes even had a 21lb common carp on it from blake hall fisheries near us in stoke on Trent

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Happy days 😁 hope he is enjoying using it!

[@colincowell9761]

I bought a couple of 10ft Sneeker rods £25 2:75 t/c and had carp to 27lbs great heart stopping fun.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Brilliant 😁

[@Carp.fishing.motocrosser]

Another good place for cheap beginners for set ups are sports direct believe it or not the past couple I’ve been in have loads of carp set up bits with alarms etc… even saw a bivvy in there 😂 worth having a looki in there for anyone looking for cheap stuff 👌

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Cheers for the heads up 👌🏻

[@derry5039]

Those dragoncarp rods were from anglingtimes. I got one over 10 years ago same one for about £15. Had to send off a voucher to redeem the offer!

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I've had a lot of the same sort of comment. seems a popular rod!

[@andym5900]

I’d asked the question months ago but I’ve lost the answer Not sure which of your channels but it was what was the chair you were using ? From memory you’d bought a second one for family use I’m in my 60’s & struggle not to end up on my butt in winter as current seat is low & where I fish tends to be very slippery If not the specific chair any recommendations for a higher chair

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Hi Andy, I don't remember that question so it may not have been on my video, but maybe take a look at the new jrc chair coming out that is taller. Jrc defend 2 folding chair 👌🏻

[@andrewbutcher9216]

At the end of the day of your a beginner or in a budget if you use quality terminal tackle, good bait and get your location right you will catch them on that type of gear no problem

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Definitely 😁

[@65swinny]

lineaeffe is the brand they are Italian . they do a lot of starter kits of Ebay . brand new reel £10

[@MarkGardiner-g2y]

Now you've managed a good cheap set up, all you need to do now is save up for the price of a day ticket.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Perfect set up for bass and flatties👌

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Yeah? Never done it myself

[@Drainingtheswamp2022]

Lineaffe is the brand- good old dragon carp back in the day

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Thanks for the info 😁

[@darwindavies6979]

Qaulity watch as always joe dragon tackle blimey that's blast from the past I know so many anglers that started with ther gear onto the next adventure tightlines look forward to the next vid 👊🎣

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Cheers 😁

[@byrnesy194]

Try and find some old Micron E's!

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Guessing they may be pricey 😬

[@tonyhayward3206]

Hi which lake were you fishing las I am new to the area.cheers.

[@paulAnthony7236]

Angling Direct do a discover brand they do a carp rod range from 20 quid 10ft 12ft and carp reels for a tenner . couldn't tell you what there like though.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

That's great to hear though. Carping on a budget

[@stuarthopcraft5542]

Great video. But Show me how to buy a rod and reel tomorrow then go catch aa 20lb carp in the Midlands in a week and ill be seriously impressed. Seriously though we all spend too little time on the bank for too llittle reward. By the way Linneaffe is a brand often seen in LIDL AND ALDI, i have never used but maybe ill do a vid just like you😂

[@weeeeee374]

I've looked at costly rods, weighed up my ability, and realised I need nothing more than sonik vadar rods. If I was targeting giants, I think I'd pay a bit more for rods ect, but while I'm a casual novice, I'm happy with my choice.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Nice one 😁 makes sense 👌🏻

[@cgarr04]

Buy a Diawa Black Widow rod. Similar price and much better than the sonik VaderX. I have both rods - the vader is mainly all tip action and the black Widow bends right down to the butt ring. Much better on casting too. The Vader X can handle 35lb fish no problem tho, certainly not a bad rod, just not very parabolic.

[@weeeeee374]

@cgarr04 ah, nice one man! Cheers for that 👊

[@cgarr04]

No problem man. Tight lines 🤙

[@tintownelite]

I have a spare set of dragon carp alarms from back in the day. Yours if you want them FOC

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Thank you very much for the offer. Will keep it in mind going forwards with the series 😁

[@richarddenison5345]

Lineaaffe is the brand lol oldschool just like dragon carp :)

[@explorerc6707]

I love this video you should do more

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I do plan to 😁

[@wozwright1979]

Leneffe is the brand, about the same quality as NGT a few years ago but still does a job 👍

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Nice one cheers 😁

[@joeking57]

Modern day carpers love using 3.5lb broom handle rods when its totally unnecessary unless ur casting 845 yards. Pointless fishing with them unless ur going for 60 pounders everyday of the week. "danny fairbrass and ali have brainwashed the entire world. Bread and a hook on any rod and reel will put carp on the bank played correctly. Give or take circumstance

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I think all rods have their time and place. But I agree, lighter rods are definitely doable for a lot of situations

[@Louiscare]

I love carp on feeder and 6lbs line, methods work great for me on slow moving canals and 10kg fish put up one hell of a fight

[@SuperBreakline]

My first rod was a Dragon Carp

[@cameronsteele23]

Just curious where your fishing too?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Hunstrete withy pool

[@Ellio1862]

Can’t beat the Ibiza rod for value for money

[@nuffinbutfishing]

May it rest in pieces 😩

[@xenonbaitstv]

Them rods were only £10 brand new 😂 still use my 20 year old GIANT Argos rod for surface fishing!

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I've been duped! 🤣🤣

[@xenonbaitstv]

@@nuffinbutfishing inflation I guess 😂

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

I actually had a pair of those dragon carp rods😂

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Seems quite a lot of people did!

[@Baron-Ortega]

I had a Dragon Carp spod rod. Did the job.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Happy days 👌🏻

[@chill-ur-beans-brolol5753]

Have got two 11ft 2 and half pound tests rods out of sports direct and two 9ft 2 half pound tests rods the 11 ft cost me £11.99 and the 9 ft cost me £10.99 with sonik reels I've had them come up to a year and where I fish there one lake only 3 members fish coz it's hard fishing and I've had some nice fish out of there I've never gone and blanket it's not the rods that catch the fish it's your bait and water craft

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Happy days 😁

[@pandaoutdoors4x4s]

Cool video shows young anglers they can get on the bank with there pocket money by buying budget kit every week or month to build there kit up

[@RichardCorbiere]

Joe is that the back end of withy ?

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Not the back end up opposite the point 👌🏻

[@RichardCorbiere]

Ok ain’t fished there In years when Ben and you fished the main lake

[@RichardCorbiere]

@@nuffinbutfishing think last time we spoke u brought my jag hook sharpener kit

[@AdamsAnglingTv]

i remember my first carp rod was a 3peace Rod cant remember name of it, i bought it at a carboot sale😂 great video also when i got into it properly i upped to wychwood rods lol

[@nuffinbutfishing]

We followed similar trends then. How it should be 😁

[@FISHINGMINTY]

Disaronno and coke. Now you’re talking 👌 it would be good to do some tests on baits from budget / smaller brands.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

😋😋😋

[@raymondturton4750]

Can’t go wrong with the NGT carp stalkers , used their 6ft for a few years now , no problems

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Happy days 😁

[@MidlandAngler]

Every angler should have a black cat 🌞🌞😊

[@nuffinbutfishing]

🐈‍⬛️🐈‍⬛️🐈‍⬛️

[@Familyman0838]

Theirs a lot of youngsters out their that feel they carnt go carping unless they have the latest and greatest gear and feel priced out of the sport this just goes to show that's not the case

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Definitely 😁

[@ColinPickney]

Dragon carp was Roger surgary warehouse,back in the day

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Cheers for the info 👌🏻

[@Finc89]

Lineaeffe it's an Italian brand.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Nice one cheers 👌🏻

[@thomasward8498]

Could have went to lidle for a laugh would have been cheaper 😂

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Also a video idea 😁

[@nathanfogg9758]

What lake was that again? Grate vid as usual 👍👍👍

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Hunstrete, Withy Pool 👌🏻

[@timp5813]

My first bivvy was dragon carp 😆and they're still going, owned by sports direct

[@nuffinbutfishing]

How about the bivvy? 😜

[@timp5813]

@@nuffinbutfishing TBF it was okay, built in ground sheet, decent size ... Did the job 🤜🤛

[@martange8487]

Probably no worse than the Nash scope rod range ! Worst bit of kit you can buy.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I loved my scopes but now own dwarfs

[@CatchingScenes]

Haha no way I had one of those rods years ago! sure it was around £10 as a deal with Angling Times 🤣

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Ah nice! So I wasn't that savvy with my savings then

[@sarahrochester2561]

People go for the look

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I'm also guilty 🤣

[@zebedeevlogs32]

I bet a lot of "top end" carp rods are still made for £15...

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Probably not far off

[@TUT-TUTT]

I had a dragon carp in my local town it was o my open 2 year and closed

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Spend much in it? 😁

[@TUT-TUTT]

@@nuffinbutfishing tbh I remember buying my first 2 rod set up. I got 2 10ft CK fusion carp rods 2.75tc and some bait runner reels a pod and alarms for about £80 🤣 I still actually have 1 of them rods in my shed

[@johnderous7874]

you're funny! :-)

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Haha, thank you

[@markwiffen8715]

I think you could shit in a bag and throw a hook on and catch a carp.

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I'll leave that to you 👌🏻

[@Midlands_Carper]

thumbnail said £15, bleeped out his real price at the start, instantly clicked off the video

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Clearly not, as you commented. 🙈 have a good day

[@SouthWestCarper]

Some lovely looking ones in there. Shame anout the mouths on some Of them. Hopefully bump into you on the bank sometime bud 😉

[@nuffinbutfishing]

Heavily fished for day ticket carp unfortunate go that way when some people don't take care

[@SouthWestCarper]

@@nuffinbutfishing yeah very true 😞

[@ColinPickney]

Rod was probably only £15 new in 2010

[@nuffinbutfishing]

I have come to realise this since the video went live