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[@Feracitus]

nullsec is empty, until it isnt, and you're dead xD

[@BBRAIN1977]

Does it also not depends in what region you are and timezone ? Was that frt what did the 100 ship jump on you ? They just there to protect their renting empire

[@captainbenzie]

Oh, I know that's what FRT were doing, I understand why, just don't then claim that Nullsec is dangerous 😂

[@JRFO292]

Yeap

[@Mortechai]

I had jumped 2 skiffs through what I thought was an empty system for 2 jumps in 3 different directions until I brought the third through and died to a 13 man roam.

[@nelyrions1838]

Exactly this. Happened to me yesterday. Rip metamorphosis

[@SnoDog2112]

I have lived in Null Sec for most of my EVE career ( 8 years now). There are times I agree that it is safer than LS or HS. You know who your friends are. However, about the intel channels, they are only as good as the information that is put into them. Not everyone uses them, and not everyone reports or updates them. There are times where I have asked for a status check of a system I am trying to move something through and I don't get a reply within 15 minutes, yet when I pass through there may be 10+ ratters who I asked in Local why they are not replying to intel?? If someone is reported in intel and then falls off the "intel eyes" you are blind until they appear in your system. I do not AFK rat or mine. I am an active player and there have been times that I see someone jump in to the system I am in and get too me within the 15 seconds or so to get off grid even with the gate or WH being greater than 15 AU away. Is NS "safer"...yes. Is it completely safe...yes...if you are docked and only then. So, to push my adrenaline levels up, after watching a lot of your videos, I have moved out of NS into J-Space, now I am scared all the time. LOL

[@Meatpiesgaming]

I agree, one other thing that is a bit disingenous is that you can 'dock up' at the first sign of danger...if you are in a small ship. What is very risky in NS is using the big fun ship that we worked for years to get, they dont warp off in a few seconds, not morons, just poeple that worked hard and want to use their fun ships. There seems to be a meme view of NS, those 15 jumps will likley have people in them...NS people dont all live 15 jumps into Bloc territory...Id recommend some time in NS with a normal corp or alliance. I doubt that blob fleet was there for you Cap 🤣🤣

[@captainbenzie]

A battleship warps faster than I can arrive in system and find it and I am a GOOD scanner

[@Meatpiesgaming]

@@captainbenzie There so many other aspects of hunting that you have not considered. Good hunters roam the same routes every day for years, they have the combat anoms bookmarked, these re-spawn in roughly the same place over and over, so they dont need to scan, they know where you will be. Ive had a malediction land on me within seconds of appearingi n local and Im 17au from the gate. The game is way more complex and nuonced than you seem to belive. Come out and play with a small null alliance, it might open your eyes to another world.

[@Darth0308]

​@@Meatpiesgaming I wondered how they were doing that. Probably should have figured it was something completely lame like saving hard spawn points. Thought these guys were just that good, and now I feel alot better with the mystery gone, knowing they are just scrolling thru their saved locations window lol!

[@tigobittesx]

What do we do when we are asleep boys and girls? "KEEP ONE EYE ON LOCAL." What do we do when we are awake boys and girls? "KEEP BOTH EYES ON LOCAL."

[@LvLUpLegend]

I got into Signal Cartel! They are a great bunch and I can’t wait to start helping the Eve community!

[@captainbenzie]

Huzzah!! Congratulations!!!

[@princeofthe999swords]

If you happen to visit my system you get 10 mil as a signal cartel member from me ;) got you guys blue'd. my corp members will try to kill you tho, but i've got an osprey for that xD

[@nickmonks9563]

I was in Signal for a while. Would love to get back in one day. Hard to find the time for the commitment, but the payoff is fantastic, proving there is player corp content for explorers, and a very unique culture to boot.

[@Boneripper]

You are a big part of what got me into EVE again and I really enjoy your videos. Many EVE content creators and veterans are somewhat negative and grizzled and I like your more chill and positive type of content. With that said this video comes through to me somewhat meanspirited and rude. While I can understand the rude comments you get and those people can obviously go and buzz off, it felt kind of generalizing to all people living in null. Like I can understand if you call someone ratting in null and being afk and then die a moron, but if someone tries to keep tabs on local and actively play and still somehow dies a moron that's very mean. Arguably you can call them a bad player, but those are two very different things.

[@captainbenzie]

My apologies. My intent was to simply say that "if you're in a Nullsec alliance and you're not using the tools around you to stay safe, you're a moron". I understand that a Marauder stuck in Bastion might not warp out from a wormholer dropping in randomly, but that's also a very niche example (Id have to arrive in local JUST as Bastion restarts - as me scanning, warping and locking is about 30-40s) My issue isn't people living safe or playing the way that they enjoy - my issue is with people claiming that this life is super risky and dangerous when it's nothing compared to the dangers of J-Space and Lowsec. That's fine, not everyone wants that risk, but just don't claim it is what it isn't.

[@Boneripper]

@@captainbenzie that's totally fair and I agree. Thanks for the reply and have a great day!

[@Haraguroi]

I like the format of this video. I’m a returning player to Eve. My account is over 10+ years old and the last time I really got into Eve was when we could walk around the hanger in 3rd person. This is a fantastic channel with lots of information. Thank you!

[@MsDakota7]

Relatively safety in eve: null (safest) wormhole highsec lowsec (least safe)

[@captainbenzie]

I expand the list a little: Friendly Alliance Nullsec > Hisec > Pirate Nullsec > Lowsec > Unfriendly Alliance Nullsec > Wormholes > Shattered Wormholes/C13s

[@Wyrsa]

My *personal* experience, mine & no one elses, is that Sovereign Null is safe (the safest even) if your corp/alliance own it, and not safe if you're just passing through. If you're passing through, then it becomes less safe. Stress however goes through the roof. For me local chat defines security: Just me -no stress no problems, might as well be 1.0 1-3 others - mmm. D-scans up and if i see ANY probes, i pop my Pochven filament. 4+ in local - Nope, I'm out. When I lived with a Corp out there (Pandemic if you must know) our space was ... mostly safe. Null rats can hurt. But i never had pvp problems. When I was living by myself (no corp at all) in Mordus Legion HQ, ...my stress levels were thtough the roof. Any time i wanted to undock (and I wanted to do so a lot because i was running missions for LP) get in the 'vette, pop out check outside the station, check the gates, pop back in, get my ship, undock, bounce around randomly to try and shake and cloakers, warp to a bookmark 1000km from gate, if its free of bubbles any no ones there, jump through, repeat in every system where there others in local.

[@captainbenzie]

Yeah, Alliance Nullsec > Hisec > Pirate Nullsec > Lowsec > Wormholes > Shattered Wormholes/C13s/Thera 😂

[@zram99]

With all due respect, and I say that because I do love your channel, your line of reasoning is highly theoretical and not totally practical regarding how hunting ratters in null actually works. I hunt ratters every day as a solo player. Signal filaments short circuit the entire idea that there is an intel network keeping a ratter safe in their little bubble. From the moment I activate a filament to being on top of an ishtar is about 30 seconds. The only clue they have to my presence is local. Yes you're right local should, in theory, shield a ratter from losing their ship. By the time they see me on dscan, if they are not aligned out, it's too late. Thing is, they literally have to align out and be ready for me the second they see me in local. But that's not what actually happens. And it's not because these people are stupid, it's because like you said, if every time they saw a neut in local they docked up, they would never finish their site. And like I said, they have 30 seconds from the time they see me in local to being tackled, they have to act fast. And when the last 10 neuts just passed through without bothering them, they get desensitized to my presence. By the way Im not saying that null is or is not dangerous. EVE is dangerous. Period. It doesn't matter what sec status you're in. It's just different types of danger in different areas. As a hunter, I get wrecked the most in null and hardly can even find a fight in WHs. Local works both ways bro, it depends what you're doing. Local can keep you safe but it can also place a huge target on your head. Null sov corps hate seeing neuts in local and groups like FRT will deploy a massive overreaction to a t1 cruiser in the form of tackle at each gate in their system. In a WH, this does not happen, because no one sees you in local. So in that sense WH is actually safer for hunting. I'm just saying keep your mind open and don't think everything in life can be reduced to a mathematical certainty of if this then this and if you don't do it that way you're a moron and deserve to lose your ship.

[@byronjbanks]

They are called nullbears and f1 monkeys for a reason. Praise Bob for wormholes the lack of local the mass tracking and the new adventure it brings daily.

[@captainbenzie]

I genuinely believe that Nullsec should have no local without a specific, expensive structure, and one that's mutually exclusive with something like the new Equinox structures. That would shake up Nullsec.

[@nationalnightlynews8553]

@@captainbenzie what's going to differentiate null from holes, then? or pochven? why would anyone stay in holes after that aside from niche communities, when you could be in null instead and have a greater access to defensive fleets than you can in holes, and also get the benefit of cynos and much easier pve content to run than holes have, that it's still very easy to box it removing local is going to hurt holes more than it would help null, and also the last time ccp tried shaking up null it caused a massive hissy fit, and it hurt ccp a lot cuz players protested against in with isk

[@matthewgibbs6886]

fc say jump

[@Kui1cp]

As someone who lived in null sec with a small alliance, and had about 6 systems, this is true. The second someone we didn't know came in one of our systems, it was posted in our channels. Null sec with an alliance is extremely safe. I never lost a ship to another player.

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly this. And if folks enjoy that, genuinely great for them - I'm all about people finding their fun! Just don't claim it's not safe!

[@davidnobular9220]

How do you know someone comes into the system ? Do you have cloaked "watchers" at every wormhole ? Or are there other methods ? I've gone into WH many times and barely seen anyone. If the denizens know I'm there, none have acted on it (although a single Venture/Imicus is probably not a threat).

[@captainbenzie]

@@davidnobular9220 in our corp, yes, cloaked watchers. They'll have alerted people, who'll react accordingly. And an Imicus can very much be a threat, that's a standard scouting ship 😉 so they're probably there, just watching and waiting.

[@hereticalcoffee]

Null Sec players don’t want fights from Randos, they want fights from their Null Sec enemies.

[@_starry.day_]

I got into exploration from your videos and it’s my favorite thing so far. There was this one time I went through a WH into nullsec and local went full on ballistic asking who I was what I was doing. Lol I’m a humble explorer in a T1 frigate and I was so scared 😳, but they let me through after they knew 😅

[@captainbenzie]

I'm glad I've been able to help you, and what an experience!!

[@jollygreentank1131]

I was in a deep null sec alliance when I played echoes and you are 100% right. For over a year I chilled out ratting and mining in that comfy null security blanket. I only lost a half dozen ships or so in over a year. And the majority of my losses where my own fault being afk and not paying attention to chat or local. Null is truly every bit as safe or even safer than high sec at times. The most risk we had was actually our merchant runs into jita. Flying through low sec was where we lost the majority of our ships. Love the content captain. keep up the great work!

[@captainbenzie]

Thank you and glad you're enjoying!

[@roberto955]

gotta think of null sec as player empire space, we are our own concord.

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly. And Nullsec is PROACTIVE in it's policing, whereas CONCORD is purely reactive. They only respond after a shot is fired.

[@Jarwin_Wuhnol]

I for one really enjoy these chats. I would suggest you even consider starting an EVE Online podcast. You have great insight into this amazing game.

[@captainbenzie]

Maybe one day!

[@Wyrsa]

Also these days, as part of Angel militia, I like to spend my time at the entrance systems to Angel space popping anyone who tries to get in. The ones from Amarr space are particularly lucrative.

[@captainbenzie]

Nice!! Wholeheartedly support the anti-Amarr effort!!

[@mythrando]

I'm enjoying this podcast format!

[@captainbenzie]

I'm glad!!

[@Done25.]

I'd say Null is a different type of danger. There's less risk of getting jumped by a small squad of T3 cruisers, but there's a larger emphasis on 15+ man squads rolling through looking to drop in, nuke someone off the face of the map, and then warp out. There's also a larger emphasis on territory fights. We shall see what happens a month from now with the upcoming Null update in regards to territory control.

[@feffri1]

I've lived in all types of space and chose null for the very last. Can can confirm it is beyond easy mode in eve. I've played since 09 and only the last 2 years in null. I've gone from eve middle class to eve rich. I had a handful of capitals and now I have 8 dreads 2 of them faction 1 zirn carriers faxs and 3 supers and I'm 3/4 of the way to a titan. My only regret was not joining null when supers were cheap. Even with the nerfs is super safe and ez to make isk.

[@danbutorovich246]

I would add that warp bubbles in null systems with only 2 gates will end your trip quickly unless you have a ship with interdiction nullifiers.

[@captainbenzie]

Yup. Exactly this.

[@ReiP95]

Cloaking device. Or warp to a celestial, d scan, crash gate ...

[@24803803]

For 1 bubble, your IN will work, if you are fast minded. But if the dictor send another bubble out, you will get a fast travel to your home station aajajajaj

[@FreyjaEve]

Completely agree. My experience in null sec is the same regarding the XX corporation to discourage you from visit the systems again.

[@captainbenzie]

Which is fine. I don't mind them doing it, my issue is living like that and acting like it's all so dangerous and risky 😂

[@TheLime-wd3yu]

As you point out, it might be helpful to make the distinction between sov null and NPC null. Life in NPC null can be pretty fun, my experience was a lot like the WH life you're describing where you have a lot of frenemies who will poach each other's miners / ratters / explorers and get into small scale scraps but you're not trying to evict each other. From what I've seen of sov null it looks incredibly boring, you're either a tiny nameless cog in a huge PvP fleet or just endlessly printing ISK ratting in an empty system. I would also classify a system where you've got 20+ blues in local but they're all AFK or non responsive as "empty" as well. It does lead to some pretty funny news stories though, watching the big blocs backstab, rob, and sabotage each other using real life social engineering is always fun to see.

[@Ningishzidd4]

That's exactly what it is. Hence I haven't been there since 2009.

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly. I loved my time in Curse!!

[@waynedowney1555]

Love it. This is eve buttercup HTFU. I believe is all that needs to be said to null bears that lose isktars.... 😅😂

[@captainbenzie]

Yup, I do have to agree

[@kazer2010ify]

Look here..... Yeah, I am a dumbass when it comes to not paying attention to anything and lose my shit lol

[@captainbenzie]

😂😂😂

[@simply4est]

Yeah the idea of spreadsheets following us into our space game is kind of dangerous no matter which sec you're in..

[@captainbenzie]

😂

[@mrtonystafford]

I’m loving this podcast style, man!

[@whitewolfIOM]

I totally agree with what you saying ! Eve is the closest game to real war ! Its reality in a game. And much like reality , you will always get those that complain when they lose instead of 'getting good ' hahaha

[@captainbenzie]

Yup

[@brojas1234]

New bro here (started about 2 months ago) from my perspective wormholes are more safe than low or null sec. I’ve spent little time in low or bull sec because I die too often but I feel very comfortable inside the wormholes lol

[@captainbenzie]

Wormholes with a corp are still riskier than Nullsec, but Lowsec is absolutely the most dangerous space (except wormholes solo 😉)

[@gk2011]

So I agree. I also started out with Eve like 6ish months ago, and went directly to a WH corp which I don't really "Regret" but have found that the skills for WH are drastically diff than for null sec. I'm taking a break currently and basically have just chucked all the skills for things like the fly catcher such into the skill q so when I'm back I feel like I can actually do some thing.

[@blanklogo]

Not at all a part of this discussion but: The clans in Battle tech did exactly that. They told the enemy what they were bringing and expected the enemy to also let them know. Kinda an odd strategy

[@memitim171]

When you're immortal, there's nothing really wrong with going into a fair fight (or even a disavantaged one) for the hell of it, it's kinda weird when you're actually gunna die though... 😆

[@captainbenzie]

We sometimes get it in J-Space too! "We're gonna come over on Tuesday at X, this is what we'll bring!"

[@kenneth3537]

Great points, solid arguments. No arguments here. Your various formats are excellent to listen to when doing mining or gas huffing. Looking forward to more.

[@captainbenzie]

Thank you!!

[@nullx8]

Get the spin-counter up while in the station ;) pretty sure Nullsec is even safer than Highsec, because of the organisation that comes with sovereign space, in highsec, there is just concord that is reactive, while in nullsec you have active intel. Lowsec is more like the wild west type of thing, alot of fun, if you in the mood. otherwise alot of "work" but if you do Faction Warfare, the fights are "fair" by design, off the site-limitations, which is actually pretty great to learn PvP.. in short, every region has its perks, there is no good and bad.

[@captainbenzie]

This is a good point. Concord only react after you've shot. Nullsec "space police" reacts before you get to shoot

[@roberthiggins8234]

Don't probes show up on dscan? So assuming your anomaly hasnt already been scanned down earlier, someone entering your wormhole has to use probes that give away their presences. I do tend to agree that wormholes are less safe, but if you are part of a corp that maintains hole hygiene then its just as safe as nullsec. Though your point about seeders does create an issue as an enemy corp can amass quite a large fleet inside your hole over time and then there is nothing you can do about it.

[@andykauffman7466]

Seeders aren't just for wormholes, though - similar concepts apply to Null Sec, too. I've had my Marauder killed by characters logged out in True Sec systems. I'd argue a small fleet logged out in a Null Sec system is even more dangerous than a seeder. Wormholes can appear anywhere and need to be scanned down. Combat anoms show up on a probe window and can be dropped on easily.

[@sjoerdhaerkens5887]

I do agree that sovereign null sec is probably one of the safest places to be, but its not all like the picture you painted all the time. Some areas have smaller or newer alliances that cannot always from those overwhelming response fleets. Especially outside of their peak hours. There you can be at a significant risk from blops fleets, especially if you are in a ship that is sieged. Also blue spies can be a serious problem that is very hard to deal with and hard to track down.

[@AdamCHodge]

How has a "batchall" not been mentioned?! I thought we had nerds here?! 🤣 I would totally be up for honour-bound PvP fights for fun, territory (temporary or sovereignty), etc. but that seems limited to arenas (Anger Games style). Maybe I'm wrong - it's the internet, someone will let me know. Keep up the videos Benzie - talky-type or tutorial, we just like to hear from you. 🍻

[@captainbenzie]

Thank you! To be clear, my issue isn't about fairness at all, EVE isn't fair, my issue is with people squealing that "Nullsec is really dangerous actually" 😂

[@mine7417]

Having lived in null sec and low sec, null sec is way safer. The only thing we really worried about was wormholes when I was in null sec. And it definitely did lead to a lot of complacency on my part. But the fact that I was safe enough to bring out capital ships to rat a d could leave the computer to grab a drink or something without much worry is kind of ridiculous to me at this point. In my current region, I'm not gonna unlock a capital without somebody on standby to help if something helps out

[@captainbenzie]

Fair enough, and yeah, at least the wormholes you still see the ships in local which is usually enough time to dock 😉

[@JRFO292]

@@captainbenzie new player over here, yeah, got killed like In that mater. Was ratting in the praxis that the corp give me, they did tell me to just watch Intel(useless against filaments and wormholes... and lot of people that just won't update). I saw a single dude apear in local, so I start to recall the drones, notice the lag... And started to panic... I was aligned to the station buuuut the warp button just didn't work. Got Bubble and 30+ ship appear en local. RIP. Now I just checking that there is no lag and run like hell if I se anything (f the drones), report to Intel and grab a explorer ship to do another content in the meantime if the dude or fleet just don't go away (just today log on and there was like 30+ fleet camping one the gates XD... Reported to Intel as well XD) And just doing FW with a alter when not doing rating with the main... Because rating with praxis is super boring after some time.

[@mine7417]

Yeah wormholes are kinda cool, I'm actually running the explo loki fit featured on this channel to start and explore them. Not sure I'm ready to start living in one yet though. Gonna see how the changes in the new expansion change my current income stream first before I seriously look it to trying a wormhole corp

[@randaldavis8976]

there is always someone angry about small shit.

[@captainbenzie]

Yup

[@johnbrowning4913]

Really like your content. thanks for taking the time to put out the info! o7

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@Friskni]

this has been true about nullsec forever, if you are active you cannot die

[@hullmining6903]

i have nothing to add, except: Stain is for Stain people.

[@davidmanhire5532]

My first home as a noob. Dear to my heart still.

[@wayneduplessis3560]

Hey benzie , fellow Zimbo here ... enjoy uour content! ... must say though that Null can be trickier now with filaments , the most dangerous gankers now are the ones in a cheap hurrican or other high dps but cheap battle cruiser and land in your system and gank , that being said its also dangerous for the gankers as you said and ive often killed roamer gankers and wh gankers when they try jump any of my 3 ratters when i warp my 4th toon with Rail Exeq Navy QRF ship in with its long point :P , also ive lived in Null since i started in 2007 (with some breaks) but also have alts in Wh space and Null like anyone else.

[@wayneduplessis3560]

oh and i also have a dedicated pvp toon that just sits in the Horde standing fleets chasing around juicy targets and that can be a lot of fun , time zone depending though you can be one of 3 people doing it or 30 people doing it lol

[@Totteringfox]

Not disagreeing with you. But there are hotdroppers that log off in almost every constellation in delve. Occasionally we get surprised by a filament. Intel is nice to have.

[@marcfrancis7931]

More content. Love it

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you're enjoying!

[@jonathananderson1601]

I agree its fairly safe with intel channels and or alt several jumps out

[@captainbenzie]

Yup

[@VitalijMik]

imagine if local in NS would only work if youre within Dscan range :D that would be an awesome addition. so ifyoure withiun 14.3 AU then you appear on local. would be kinda like wh but a little bit saver

[@captainbenzie]

I wish it worked like J-Space, but that alliances could anchor an expensive structure that gave them "normal local"

[@JHL66644]

if I just started to play today, what should I do? can I go t3 or t4 and farm in nullsec? and am I in a massive disadvantage vs other player in terms of skill point or research tech?

[@gothmog2441]

Get a base explorer frigate and go to pirate null where there are NPC bases you can dock in. Take filaments with you so can use Pochven express to get back when there is so much ISK in your hold you can’t take the risk of another jump gate. You will lose the ship, but you can also make many times its value with a few lucky relic/ data sites. Train into a Covops with cloak, interdiction nullifier and T2 hacking module skills, then your ship will cost loads more but loss rate will drop massively and gains will rocket. Then train T3 cruisers to do more of the same with sleeper sites and more firepower added.

[@cachecoder]

Great video

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jessepittman7113]

I live in pandemic space pretty safe as u say, I just lost a Mac 2 weeks ago go during reset at 5 am my time. Guy jumped out of worm hole took me out! But that over a year before had a loss! So yea is as safe as u make it!

[@smoore6461]

I enjoy the podcast style. I learn a lot on these videos. Ive been hesitant to go to nulsec myself. So it's interesting to me.

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you're enjoying! Nullsec can be good with the right corp and depending what you want. If you're big on risk, join a wormhole corp, if you want good isk and good security, join FRAT, BRAVE, PANDEMIC HORDE, GOONSWARM etc

[@smoore6461]

@@captainbenzie I like wormholes personally; I think it would be more fun in a WH Corp, but the adventure is exciting to me. Hate loosing my ships but its a huge part of the game so it's all good. I'm not huge into PVP as a personal preference, except for it being a part of the game. If that makes sense.

[@Wyrsa]

If you got the skills to fit cloaks (or not, if you like the adrenaline) then one of the easiest ways to do null safe (besides be in a null corp) is a Noise 5 filament, a Pochven entrance and exit filament. (Needs positive Triglavian rep to dock though.) Noise 5 will take you to empty null systems, where you can do combat sites, exploration, or mine in relative peace. Then pop into Pochven and either sit in cloak or dock up until the timer expires and then pop the exit filament and boom your safe in hisec. Usually. WHs are a safer bet on exiting.

[@captainbenzie]

@@Wyrsa that's the wonder of living on J-Space. Access to all security levels for content 😊

[@smoore6461]

@@captainbenzie that's one thing I really love about J-space being able to travel to so many differnt places.

[@315para]

Seriously i was happy with this unitl you said "grab a biscuit" and i realized i was at work and had non . Guess you cant keep everyone happy 😂

[@captainbenzie]

Oof, I am so sorry, that's terrible!! 😂😂😂

[@315para]

@@captainbenzie it was but at least i could watch your vids ! thanks for your content its helping me get back into eve after a 11year break and so much has changed from back then .

[@captainbenzie]

@@315para happy to help and welcome home!!

[@user-nl5ut7bx4y]

I lived in null-sec for 7 years and lost 1 Ishtar when my daughter broke her leg and I had to (understandably) rush to her aid. Most of the time I ratted in a carrier and Vindicator setup. That was before cloaky camping was deleted from the game. It's ridiculous to claim null-sec is dangerous. Good vid, bro.

[@traviskinchen2265]

I'd be interested in finding out more about life in pirate null. I did 3 weeks in sov null and the isk was good but it was too tedious. I've spent years in hisec, have flown about doing stuff in lowsec for thrills, have day tripped many a wormhole. At this point I'd like to try either a wormhole corp or pirate null, but don't have a clear idea of pros and cons.

[@Rextter]

A good case passionately argued and you are right

[@thedronebay]

Agreed on nullsec being (mostly) safe. I have spent a lot of time on both sides of the nullsec hunting game. I recently moved to J-Space and it feels massively more dangerous.

[@captainbenzie]

My genuine opinion is that safety goes as follows: Friendly Alliance Nullsec > Hisec > Pirate Nullsec > Lowsec > Unfriendly Alliance Nullsec > Wormholes > Shattered Wormholes/C13s

[@datguy6818]

I just realized you got my scorpion navy issue the other day.

[@datguy6818]

Nicely Done drop!

[@BrunoMoozika]

Is it safer than lowsec/WH? It can be most of the time yeah, sov null anyways. But not really safe, plenty of ways to catch a Marauder, Dread, etc, which has an active cycle preventing it from warping. Some players logoff in the main ratting/mining systems just to login quickly to check dscan and if finds something immediately lights a cyno or logs the remaining accounts and goes for the kill, or they have spies which report when something big undocks. I never used a Marauder in nullsec due to its cycle, but one day decided to give it a go just to have local spike minutes after I undock and warp to the site. Luckily I was 100kms from the warpin and barely managed to warp out before they could catch me. So is it safe to rat in a Ishtar? 99% of the time yeah. Is it safe to rat/mine in a Marauder, Dread, Carrier, Rorqual, etc? No, not really, it's quite risky, plenty of ships are lost all the time. No where in EVE is safe, and nullsec is no exception, even in your alliance's own territory.

[@lepulga3712]

I'm new in null sec, and the only ships that I have lost from droppers, it was because I was watching a video while mining or something, I've never felt so secure mining or ratting before joining

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly this, and at least you own those losses 😉 to be clear, I'm not against that play style, my only issue is people who call it dangerous 😂

[@nationalnightlynews8553]

i won't say it isn't cheap to get blobbed in null (especially after getting tilted feeding lots of ships there solo or smallgang) but... if that's what you were expecting, that it led to this video... don't fight in null in t1 cruisers? unless if you really know what you are doing, like flying kite fits and ewar (basically nanogang) hell, if null is that safe/put against the hunters, and jspace is that risky, those t1 cruiser pilots could use the same ships to rageroll c3s (or maybe c5s, but t2 ships/battlecruisers are much better to not get your world rocked) and find the fights there without that much of a risk of blobbing right? there's a lot of arguments in eve communities about null being unfair, and it is, but with the points raised, maybe there'd be some change. but there isn't. so one more video or response or anything probably won't change it i'd say try out different avenues to get good fights, lowsec is fairly active and fun (not just facwar), jspace has its share of fights, hell you can still get some fights/good kills in null itself, but you have to be smart with your fits and piloting, else if you want a good old brawl, go hit jspace or low, those are your best bets nullsec is unforgiving and everyone will use cheap tactics against you, so do it back to them, go throw in a hecate and charge in blind and be surprisingly effective, fly kiters and steal ess, throw in ewar to make marauders plan before they go in, etc, and you might get your own share of salt thrown back at for being cheap, but if catharsis was the factor in the video, then it's probly an op success :P but yeah, null is safe, complaining isn't really going to change anything since 2003, and best option is to look at other places to get fights if that's the main goal, and if you wanna piss off nullseccers, use your own cheap tactics (tip: got the sp and pilots? go do blops, it's THE best way to piss people off)

[@captainbenzie]

I mean, that's not what led to this video (I honestly thought I covered that on the first minute). I understand why alliances do it. I'm not against it. My issue is when people live in amongst that and then try to claim they're living in danger. They're not. It feels like a gated community with everyone twitching their curtains fearfully. Like no, you're safe. You've got layers of protection several miles deep. If that's fun to folks, genuinely AWESOME! I am all about people finding their fun! Just don't come at me that Alliance Nullsec is dangerous. It's far safer than Lowsec or Wormholes.

[@nationalnightlynews8553]

​@@captainbenzie then why do you keep making new vids about the same topic, that has been covered to death and proven to give no results, and in the middle of the vid mention catharsis being a factor for making this? salt is what they want and you're a quarry, just go on with your day, we all know null is cheap, even the nullseccers themselves, and no, just because the enemy is a wormholer doesn't mean everyone is quivering in their boots... needlejacks exist. the only people pissed about it are the dictors, and you still find them everywhere no one is coming at you that "actually null is dangerous", and the ones that are, does it really matter making this anyways? like it's going to be difficult drilling into skulls made of titanium anyways, go on with your day, but this video was really pointless, and sometimes even came of as rude for like... no reason? unless if you're that thin skinned about random internet morons... just wanted chill vids with weird c3 pve fits, this is a very weird video for this kind of channel/community

[@jerico-piano]

beware the escalation Benzie these people are not interested in arguments, they just want drama, don't waste your time reacting to raging comments, chill and make content you like

[@captainbenzie]

I liked making this content 😬 I won't make content I don't enjoy 😋

[@brianchristopher8843]

Null sec is decently safe if you are not moving around. I've been in wormholes basically the whole time I've played eve amd the past few weeks I've been living in wicked creek and there is a decent ammount of danger zipping around. We rented in outer passage for a little bit at one point and that was almost completely safe. I made billions and billions every week just ratting with a pair of stormbringers.

[@MsDakota7]

Generally I 100% get where you are coming from. My previous comment was made in like the first 10 minuters and after that I watched the rest. I do think nullsec is the safest but I also think it is not as safe as you say it is. It is very close to it but not quite. Sometimes I can travel 20-30 jumps in nullsec and find no one. Not a single other person in any of those systems. This means there are chances to remain undetected. On top of that covertops and black ops exist. They are still fairly effective against bigger targets. Now that is given you have a good hunter though. There are some folks that are genuinely terrifyingly good at hunting. Admittedly 90% to 95% of the time you are totally safe. And out of the times you aren't safe generally 9/10 times you are docked before anything happens.

[@captainbenzie]

My genuine opinion is that safety goes as follows: Friendly Alliance Nullsec > Hisec > Pirate Nullsec > Lowsec > Unfriendly Alliance Nullsec > Wormholes > Shattered Wormholes/C13s

[@MsDakota7]

@@captainbenzie if we want to do an expensive list(yes I have experience with wormholes, lived in one for 6 months, but am mostly a nullsecer), some more need to be expanded upon: Friendly Alliance Nullsec > C4, C3, C2, C1 wormholes > hisec in a corp that is not wardeccable > empty nullsec > neutral nulsec > pirate null > hisec in wardeccable corp > unfriendly nullsec > C5, C6 wormhole (only this low because of on going wars, but without those wars if you are part of those groups, it would be safer then unfriendly nullsec) > thera holes > lowsec > shattered wormholes Why do I rank lowsec so much lower? Because what you describe in your video about nullsec happens in lowsec too but those people in drop in faction capitals and with high-grade pods on you lol

[@sscjessica]

So I have lived in both WH space in small and large corps and null in small and large corps or coalitions. Block null is safer than HS for the most part. But jspace is very safe. You need alts for eyes on holes but it's still extremely easy to lock down a c5 farm hole. Small null alliances are less safe as a note compared to Imperium and panfam. As a note for null sec standing fleets. They mostly drop what they want because what not? I know people with 20B marauders dropping on a group of 5 people. Why? Because it's fun, no other reason. Now you bait and kill it and make good isk tbh or kill ratters in quick ships so you can duck out when standing does arrive. Edit. Also Dscan is a thing and always mash it!

[@captainbenzie]

Yup, I have no issue with how and why Nullsec Alliances do what they do - my issue is when people try to claim that it's dangerous out there 😂

[@NeilDeBarna]

I've never lived in Nullsec. I do day trip there sometimes for exploration or maybe some ESS bashing. One of two things will happen. 1) Nothing, it's empty and boring. 2) I get chased by 20 or more ships. The amount of times anything between those two has happened is precisely zero.

[@wazitsay]

As an absolute moron myself, I agree 100%

[@user-sb3qg5ph5t]

100% correct. Every bit. But i have to say that when I lived in Fountain, I did things a bit differently. I never joined a response fleet that was over the top. They kinda disgusted me tbh. Most of the time I would respond by myself. The size of droneboat (usually) I took was determined by the incoming gang. I absolutely loved my droneboats for thier ability to fight outnumbered. Thats not to say that generally speaking a Dominix taking on 3, 4 or 5 battleships is a wise idea but using that Dominix to take on a couple BCs, a few cruisers, and a few frigates is fun and can be tricky. Using the Myrmidon, back in its early days was also very challenging. I must say, I didn't know you were living in J-Space. I heard the damn mega-alliances were demanding "rent" (actually extortion) to let you be... Glad to hear that at least for you, that doesn't seem to be the case. 😊 Thumbs up 👍 for the just rant. When I was able to organize a few folks to join me in a response, I did it on the down-low to keep the fights fair and fun for all. Win or lose was much more about fleet composition and tactics than blobs, either way. 5 recons and a couple assault frigates was pretty tough vs 1 Myrmidon but drones are pretty tough vs an EW gang 😀...aaaaanyway good rant Capitan B! Living in J-Space was also fun back on our days. The early days of J-Space anyway. We did get hit from time to time but we, or I, nearly always came out on top. We also never got pounded on by the likes of Rook & Kings or Giloteen Therapy so....

[@williamglover6729]

If I accept your wormhole challenge do you know a few good wormhole corps I can look into joining?

[@captainbenzie]

Come join Catskull!!

[@williamglover6729]

@@captainbenzie I have joined time to find out if you're right.

[@prodev4012]

What about instalock gate camps? Even on my 1.5 sec astero I was getting destroyed while exploring because all the good relic sites that actually have good loot are in systems that are surrounded by instalock gate camps. I try burning back to the gate too but it’s just not possible sometimes

[@gothmog2441]

Sorry, wrong tool for the job. In a Covops with an IN you ignore those camps. Sure you have no combat ability, but you’re after the relics, not there to kill people. Astero does have combat ability, but pays for it by not being quite as slippery.

[@prodev4012]

@@gothmog2441 what is an interdiction nullifier going to do against multiple webs and scrams that blow you up before you can burn back to the gate?

[@loading1093]

Joined PH after a 10 yr break. Can confirm I don’t die in null

[@captainbenzie]

It has risks, and I understand how these Alliances did it,.and why. I'm also not against them doing it. My issue is when people call it dangerous and it's just NOT 😂 find your fun, and if that lifestyle is fun to you, then (genuinely) I am so happy!

[@GentleNova]

The channel “This is Ami - Eve Online” has a video on how to “Earn 5b isk a month” starting with absolutely nothing. She talks about how Nullsec is so safe that you can start the game as an alpha player and join Pandemic to make easy loot immediately. So basically her video verifies most of what you said in your video and even uses Pandemic as an example as well. BTW she normally does PVP but she said does AFK PVE in Nullsec to make easy money. It’s hilarious even more so that she’s indicating she’s doing it AFK which emphasizes how safe it is to do so.

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly, and yet so many folks in the comments here are "nuh uh, Nullsec is really dangerous actually"

[@johnbernardshaw1549]

I can’t remember how long ago they changed the nullsec local but it was much better when you didn’t show up on unless you typed in chat. That way you could hide if you were passing through, and also you were never truly certain if you were safe in a null sec system

[@captainbenzie]

Afaik local has always been the way it is in nullsec. Only wormholes have that local. I genuinely believe that Nullsec should have no local except where the Alliance has anchored a specific, expensive structure, that is mutually exclusive with some other structure (like the new Equinox ones - choose between local, more belts, or more anomalies)

[@johnbernardshaw1549]

Ok so I guess I was partly wrong I looked it up in 2019 they did a null sec blackout which changed nullsec local to work the same as wormhole local for quite a while. I loved it because as a solo or smaller group player this allowed me to venture where I otherwise might not be able to.

[@ReiP95]

@@captainbenzie that is a wery cool idea that is the opposite of what I had... Like a new building that spown alot of good money making stuff but remove local chat and local is suppressed for like 5j out that system... Like ot become -2 sec nullsec... I would prefer your idea but that vould upset alot of ppl and vould hit the little guy more than the big alliances. The risk/reward kind of thing. We gotta remember tha mos of ccp income comes from NS that's the core business and keeping the lights on for all of us (who just wanna drop and kill those dirty afk krabbing nulseccers slaves)

[@rusin6992]

i live in NC nullsec and its the most safe place ever i basically cant die if i do not troll

[@giuseppeviscomi7033]

I lost more ship in HS than in NS ❤

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly this

[@illmarine23]

do some capital lists please. and your opinion on them

[@EvanRath]

null is safe if your alliance is active, aware, and communicates

[@benvlootski]

damn haven't seen you in my recommended in a hot minute

[@captainbenzie]

Subscribe and ding the bell 😉

[@andrewlash166]

Seeders are annoying, but if you know how to Dscan and keep your rollers on standby while ratting you will be fine against them. A whole combat fleet logged in system is dangerous though.

[@chickenz2695]

I dunno why I'm posting this here, but I just wanted to let out some unhappiness. On a new 56m net worth account I started wormhole hacking for the first time, and there was this amazing wormhole that had over 100m worth of hacking loot. I looted 80m before I entered a dangerous site I shouldn't have. I had to quit a puzzle to escape from incoming enemies, but I didn't know this site kills after failing once. I never got that 80m back. However I just got another ship and finished looting the wormhole and ended up profiting 17m overall. Crazy day for me. Could have bagged over 100m and tripled my net worth.

[@nationalnightlynews8553]

maybe it was a forgotten or unsecured site? avoid those, and also the covert research facility sites (level 3 data) has rats spawn after 45-60 seconds or so, and the cans explode and do damage if you fail a hack even once, most of the time enough to kill an average explo frigate if you fail losses happen, this is eve, next time you could make more, maybe you could make less, but keep trying, the money is there, use the failure as a learning experience, and if you see something you don't know about? search it up online, eve is very well documented, it isn't too hard to find info on anything you dont know about online

[@besmirch01]

100% agree

[@captainbenzie]

😊

[@yohomie187]

Way safer than high sec. High sec makes you think you are safe, then you are suicide ganked. Just like he says, some gray pops up on local and warp to fortizar, report on Intel, and your alliance standing fleet takes care if them.

[@yohomie187]

You're never safe in Eve! Btw

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly my point

[@mattstrauchon6756]

Love the podcast vids, great for driving. For those who don't love it, would you consider making a highlight reel and playing it in the background?

[@captainbenzie]

Yeah, I had a load of random combat footage to use but it was lost when my external hard drive corrupted 😅

[@mattstrauchon6756]

@@captainbenzie Man, that happens a lot. What do you need to avoid that? Maybe I can help out.

[@kiritokun7474]

Nullsec for huge empires with good working intel and big defensive standing fleets is very safe. For renters or small groups it´s not. They have usually no intel and have only the time to react on the local and can´t probably defend properly anyway. Do you know how long a mining barge needs to warp`? :D The isk term is even. The ESS makes it possible for you to ruin their income by 40% or more? The ESS gives advantage to the guy who is in first. Sure in big alliance you will see ppl camping in it with alts to defend their income. But they could also defend their ratters in wh space. So thats even. For small groups it will probably be hard to defend/camp ESS. Compared to wh.. Wormholes have advantages for smaller groups/solo players.. better income with the opportunity of pvp. In Nullsec you can´t change your neighbour, in wh´s you kinda can.. you can be camped, but this needs some more effort and time for the attacker and not like nullsec where a small gang yeet in or comes trough a hole or just takes the gate to you :D Both have pro´s and con´s, but i think the real counting thing on both is "how many" guys do you have.. The more you have, easier it is to make something "safe". In lowsec you can watch Snuffed Dreads doing CRAB´s in the best pvp area´s with 200% risk modifier.. but no one will attack them, because they know they will get dropped hard^^ (sometime Init or even groups will attack them with like 120+ kikis, but this will not happen all the time and it happens in null too) I think it´s not the space.. it´s the numbers and maybe more groups should split from the big blocks to get more conflicts and content wars :) (I am kinda sad that PH help FRT to kick Brave and Volta out of null, but i guess FRT don´t want more competition..)

[@captainbenzie]

My genuine opinion is that safety goes as follows: Friendly Alliance Nullsec > Hisec > Pirate Nullsec > Lowsec > Unfriendly Alliance Nullsec > Wormholes > Shattered Wormholes/C13s

[@KnightRaven]

Hey there do you have a corp I could join? I'm enjoying Eve but running out of stuff to do solo

[@captainbenzie]

Join the discord in the description and apply!

[@ReiP95]

The problem IMO is that we wormholers do not realize how good we are at evasion and fast response. We ALWAYS fly in a way that max out our chance of survival/evasion when we dont want to fight... Players in k space just dont do it all the time some time they are ok sitting on an exumer having stranger in local and probes on d scan for several minutes before getting dropped. Like they dont thinck it is not dangerous because you know if you are in danger or not, they thinck it's dangerous because you could potentially be destroyed if you do noting to avoid it ... That actually a good thing as tbh if you know what youre doing you can still get kills in ns on lazy or noob pilots and game mechanics still allow you (almost) perfect evasion chance even vs a huge ass fleet... If you know what youre doing. That being said, yes. If you been killed in ns in your alliance space it's 100% a mistake on your part and it was 100% TOTALLY avoidable no excuse newer, just get good or put more efford. Ideally there should be a wh opening up above every afk miner or ratter XD

[@captainbenzie]

Wormhole pilots are good pilots. We're the reason that J-Space is considered so unsafe. One of us is terrifying 😉

[@fredlepasgrand]

I lived in null for a few years and it's how I got burned out from the game. It was surprisingly boring most of the time, outside of a few big fights, not much happened. IMO, local should be deactivated outside of empire space. That would actually help a bit since roaming small fleets would probably have more of a reason to move around without an almost obligatory cyno bait. It would also have the potental to see way more incidents of roaming fleets running into eachother and having an epic fight.

[@captainbenzie]

I honestly believe that Nullsec should have wormhole style local, BUT you can have standard local if you anchor a specific, expensive structure. Something mutually exclusive to the new "more belts/anomalies" structure that instead keeps local going.

[@MetaGuideMedia]

Null sec is only dangerous if you go into enemy territory.

[@captainbenzie]

Exactly

[@havocnchoas]

Looks like what I'm about to say has probably been said already, but I'll do it anyway just for giggles. I'm not really disagreeing with your larger point, just nitpicking some of the side points. Point 1) In the same way that "you wouldn't get anything done" if you docked up every time there was a grey in local in highsec, if you dock up every time a name appears within 5 jumps in intel channels, you will have a bad time in null. Add to that the concept that intel channels are spotty and unreliable, and you have situations where you can be watching: "ok good, they're 3 jumps out, now 4, they're going away... oh crap they're in system, and I just cycled my bastion!" Can you blame the system for that? Not really. Does that make null "dangerous" not really. Point 2) There are absolutely hunting roams that go through null sec. However, I could see from a wormholer perspective that they don't make logical sense. Most roams that I know about in null are generally made from 30 to 50 t1, or similarly inexpensive ships and aim to move fast and avoid clunky response fleets. These tend to be other low or null groups. Wormholers tend to roam in smaller numbers, with more blingy ships, cause mass restrictions, so these mentalities are slightly incompatible. Therefore, I have to push back on the idea that "no one does it." Point 3) In closing, null is really designed with the bigger, more risky toys in mind (or vice versa), and you need to deploy these larger ships to take advantage of the more lucrative activities there. These are what the hunters are after. A good hunter will do so in timezones when response fleets are weak. All of this is, evidently much less organic than wormhole life. Null is more about planning and long term growth. Wormholes are more chaotic and favor the day to day gains. The irony of my name is that I prefer the long term game XD Another great discussion topic video. Keep em rolling sir!

[@j-heratiochrist9105]

Ahh Benzie, I cannot deny your reasoning, but low or null is not safe for the reasons you mentioned, at least for me, not in a corp or anything for that matter, and an alpha besides, and a little personal annoyance is the D-scan, I dunno if it's cloak or what, but some ships do not show up on d scan, I just hear an alarm and see a new pod in station with my scan ship or huffing venture gone. While i am here, does anyone know if syndicate gas scoop blueprints exist ? and where can you get them,( if so please send me a message) cuz the scoops themselves are insanely expensive, cannot make a living with those, at those prices- normal scoops are bad enough And before anyone says it, I do not want to be in a corp or whatever, I have far too much to learn, and do not feel like burning my eyes out reading all the posts i would get, which would likely overwhelm me with info anyway. hmm maybe why i check out these tube vids-- sorry for the long post, i'm too talky when i am this tired

[@captainbenzie]

Joining a corp is important in EVE, they're the folks who'll teach you in a structured and targeted way. I make videos that thousands of people can watch, a corp will give you 1 on 1 time 😊

[@davidnobular9220]

Not relevant to topic, but I'm confused....I didn't think Alphas could mine gas????

[@j-heratiochrist9105]

@@davidnobular9220 Yes alpha can mine gas, you need skill book then train it up to 2 levels, then get 2 gas scoops and pop them onto a Venture, then go huffing like a junky

[@davidnobular9220]

@@j-heratiochrist9105 Thanks...I had advice to the contrary. Fascinating. Also, someone who had tracked me down and killed my Venture told me he did it using Dscan...but I am stuffed if I can see how he did that. The only way I can see to do it is with combat drones.... Sorry guys...off topic. My apologies to the good Captain B.

[@wolfmoz2232]

F*** … only read the headline and immediately took my blingiest Battle-Orca to null, as a neutral … can confirm and Must warn, that the headline is a little missleading and quite pricy, when taken out of context 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@captainbenzie]

😂

[@wolfmoz2232]

@@captainbenzie in the US one could probably sue you for „selfinflicted damages by personal moronism“ 😂😂😂

[@ozarkmountainvlogs3759]

third. I love your videos by the way.

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you like them!

[@spliffidor]

can I maybe join Catskull in wormhole?

[@captainbenzie]

Apply on the discord linked in the description!!

[@davidnobular9220]

I came across someone from Catskull recently. They didn't kill me....

[@TheMule71]

NS LS and HS should be renamed NR (no risk) LR (low risk) HR (high risk). If you think risk is higher in LS, it's just because you just choose to ignore fleets of multiboxers that dominate some LS content. As a solo player, yes you risk more in LS. But if you take the average toon, factoring all those multiboxers, no. Their risk is pretty much zero, and they bring down the average for everybody.

[@Spartacus547]

If you live in a wormhole then I want to live near a black hole maybe inside of a black hole that would be more dangerous see danger is my middle name lol

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

my corp protec4ts me with 2 mauraderers and a bunch of hacs

[@captainbenzie]

Glad to hear they protect you

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

@@captainbenzie i remeber u said that u tried getting someone while they were null ratting in t1 cruisers and got jumped by a few t2 and t3 ships. im not trying to start anything or insult u but isnt that what u do while showing us ships in whs? again not a diss or insult

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

and i mean what u do as in getting corp to help while in wh

[@TonyDudeele-lg7eo]

If you don't notice the probes on d scan that's on you not to mention the massive isk you can make in a WH ratting ships are easily replaced. Null sec is so empty because of renting 2 thirds of null sec is controlled by a few alliances getting rid of renting will make null sec more dynamic and interesting.

[@acemac79]

You used to be able to get a fair fun fight in Provi rip -7-

[@TRITECHTIFF]

Great discussion, (I may be one of them morons, I have lost an Ishtar or two) - But what is your actual aim here? Are you just stating Null Sec is safe? Or would you like to see it made more dangerous - Remove Local they tried that and the player count dropped - bad for a company trying to make money? - Stop intel chat channels? As I said before, I believe, and may be totally wrong, but my opinion not that its more or less important is that the mechanics of the game are fine, it's the fact that the people who live in Null Sec have made it safe......... Regards fair/fun fights I totally agree with you on this. However, the big alliances get (I think) fair fights when they are at war with another big alliance. Maybe that was the point of Null to make alliances fight each other, I am not sure how you make this happen more often though. So TLDR: I agree Null Sec is safe but is made so by the players within it. But I am not 100% sure that Null Sec is for small gang warfare, I think it was designed to used as it is now. Again, this is just my thoughts on the subject, I don't mean to cause offence to anyone. Fly safe o7

[@captainbenzie]

My main aim was just to get people to understand that Alliance Nullsec is safe and stop claiming it is risky... But yes, I'd LOVE to see local turned off in Nullsec like it is in Wormholes with a notable exception. If an alliance wants Local, they can build a special structure that's expensive and mutually exclusive from the new "more anomalies/more belts" structure. Choose between money and safety.

[@SuperWszystkoZajete]

yup, null is the safest place in eve. all you need is playing the game.

[@goldeneagle256]

so this is my take on this. to be clear, NS are rather dangerous for HS people that just visit NS and looking for fights or something. you cant look at entire NS as a single region, so you have loke NPC null thats significantly more dangerous then alliance controlled NS. i live far out in Cobalt edge under horde control, and that region are stupidly safe, and probably one of the safest regions in the game. im part of an industry corp, and we are bunch of people enjoying mining, ratting and producing stuff, and most of them have the dock up mentality when we get enemies in the pocket we live in. we rarely have enemy activity out here, and you can for most part do your stuff in peace without getting interrupted. for me that also enjoy PVP, its not great. because we either get the lonely heron or astero on exploration adventure, and im tired of killing those, or we get a 50 man frat kiki fleet roaming through, and we don't have the number of people to take those on. i really want a lot more of those 4-5 man small gangs coming trough, because thats something we can actually fight, and get some good pvp out of. i dont understand why other big alliances bother taking 50+ man fleets to pure industry regions, because they aren't getting any fights there

[@christurner5157]

99.9% of my ship losses are because im afk - and most are gate rats!!

[@captainbenzie]

Lmao yeah that'll do it