25 Under 25 | Numbers On The Board

[@cronenberg-esque]

they made the list so much more complex than needed haha

[@jasonmantz8427]

that’s what i was thinking like just say the next person you think should make it that hasn’t made it yet😂

[@neverenvy2303]

They all sounded confused with each others interpretation of the rules

[@aidencarbert3642]

would've been a lot easier if they went from 1 to 25 lol

[@raiou5010]

This type of shit happens so often I just turn off the pod any time they're this uncoordinated on something seemingly so simple to discuss beforehand

[@neverenvy2303]

I think making the 25 under 25 list actually on the pod would be better that way they can still have the discussion and agree on one player to put at a spot. Saying like 15 different players each for each spot and referencing other plays on their list makes it confusing as hell what person they’re actually arguing

[@judewaugh7145]

Y’all really didn’t need to make the list that complicated but I appreciate the effort to switch things up but old format was cool

[@michaelpatalano9884]

This is why drafts are started at pick 1 and not pick 30😂

[@iPartyRocki]

The concept is enjoyable, but the problem was it wasn't done blind because of Pierre. He controlled the entire draft by forcing everyone to reveal their picks for every spot and an element of it needs to be blind where they can't reveal who's going to be next on their respective lists so they can make mistakes or feel the pressure of having to use their challenges in the first place.

[@dbspew]

@@iPartyRockiI would've liked if they did the challenges after the draft was over.

[@bandit6969]

@@iPartyRockithey just need to make their own lists and then compare after revealing one at a time or whatever at a time

[@iPartyRocki]

@@bandit6969 The concept of being able to challenge each other is still cool to me, hence why this idea works in theory if they don’t know each other’s picks.

[@bandit6969]

@@iPartyRocki i do like how they can challenge or contest

[@mmariyesman]

i think the format coulda been so much better, i have no clue who thinks what 😭

[@BenjaminMartinez-n7s]

Bruh just name y’all’s lists 💀

[@Jonathan-bn8uf]

Having a big board/white board is useful for these type of shows for the viewers

[@lautarolopez2370]

Much love guys but as a day one fan is frustrating that one of every two times you decide to make a list of any topic y’all have different criterias which makes each list vastly different. Pierre saying that he didn’t count in Trae or Herb because they are about to turn 26 is something that you should’ve discussed in y’all groupchat before making the list, so the criteria is the same for everyone. I’m saying this because it has happened in the past as well that y’all differ in the way you make your lists, which then causes confusion in the show when you’re talking about it because one guy considered X while other guys don’t. Anyways, it doesn’t affect the content too much but it if y’all could set the criteria before making the list it’d help the content and get a better understanding of why X player is above/below Y player, and it doesn’t take almost any time.

[@kuzmathegoat7197]

Frustrating the perfect word fr

[@Anthony419o]

Youd think the amount of time they spend on discord, they’d be discussing this things

[@Ryn5t3r]

I guess it’s a pretty minor gripe, but it probably shouldn’t be called “25 under 25” if they’re gonna put people on the list that aren’t actually under 25.

[@YoungWildFree]

can we talk about the 2 hour pod streak going up TO 6x IN A ROW NUMBERS ON THE BOARDDD YESSS

[@pablocastillo3733]

Yessir let’s make it 100

[@X2GX]

Yyyyyyyuuuuuuueeeeeesssssss

[@Kamiiboyy]

Pretty sure this the first time they hit 2:30

[@jonahanngoma5139]

YESSSS

[@okvayno]

6 2 hr pods in a row during the off season is nuts

[@lfcnba]

Pierre just loves to argue😭😭no way he had to make that big of a deal about Colin Sexton being on the watchlist

[@tides4993]

good episode as always fellas but this might be an all time unprepared masterclass LOL

[@justinmartinez174]

For next time, you guys should each send in your top 25 list beforehand and then create an overall list that uses the averages. Then you can do the reveal from bottom to top, and each person gets two player contests. During a player contest, you can debate with the group for a player to move up/down the list. Let’s say you have Maxey at 10 and you want him higher. You first debate for him to go above Trae at 9. If you win that, you debate for him to go above Zion at 8. And you just keep doing that until you lose a debate. Same process to move someone down. By having an average list to start with, you at least know who you’re arguing for a player to be higher/lower than. It makes that process a lot easier. Also, maybe use a whiteboard or put the ranking on the screen (doesn’t have too big) so it’s easy to follow.

[@adnansaid1092]

This coo

[@nateddde66]

This was the most complicated way possible to make a list

[@almubarakaromire]

I swear to god they’re just in my house waiting for me to start eating lunch bro

[@Sanduskey]

unemployed lifestyle

[@flip-antonio8425]

@@SanduskeyBefore College starts lifestyle

[@adamrodriguez6101]

On my way to work perfect timing

[@sadtwolvesfan]

Dmills lives in your walls

[@gottidevon]

@@Sanduskeyor maybe people work 6-2 🤔🤔

[@joeats32]

You’re gonna need to find a better way to do these group rankings

[@shaquilleray3795]

They do what they wanna do just like you do what you wanna do in life.

[@joeats32]

@@shaquilleray3795 hop off bruh it’s okay to criticize stuff

[@chicknbacnranch5378]

@@shaquilleray3795holy GLAZE 😂

[@jojofinesse2310]

Td3 do their rankings very well I would check them out if you already don’t know who they are bro. Kenny has collabed with them before. It’s “The Deep 3”

[@SickOfMelo]

1:05:07 dmills switching his answer after Pierre said no is hilarious 😭😭

[@Ihatethisapp]

So quick too

[@YourAverageFan]

Why don’t yall just get a consensus list and debate it while revealing it. Number 1 would get 25 points (in this example) and number 25 would get 1 point for everyone’s lists. For top 10 positions it’d be number 1 gets 10 points number 10 gets 1 point. Tally up the points and that’s the consensus list. Seems much easier to follow as a viewer.

[@thewhitejackharlow]

they not smart enough for this im so sorry😂😂

[@Rae815]

Sds?

[@pelmav]

BOOSTING! This is THE WAY to do any top 10, 25, etc. lists because everyone makes their own lists and contributes to the full group list that is revealed 25-1. That way when a player gets revealed at a spot, they can just say where they had them in their lists individually and then discuss the player. SUCH a better method than doing whatever this concept was, or even the old concepts as it avoids confusion for the guys and the viewers.

[@Polyhoshi]

@@Rae815sounds like SDS for sure 😂

[@nsnshbssjsjnsbdn8319]

It’s like they forgot how to do the lists😂 they’ve done this a million times and this is the most confused they’ve ever seemed about it😂

[@kyleferguson1729]

Colin Sexton is not a crazy name to put in consideration. Sure he's not in the top 25. But for sure he's still getting better and improving.

[@TJ-tb2ky]

Exactly

[@ibmacgrady6666]

@@kyleferguson1729 prolly better than some guys on the list haven’t watched yet

[@ibmacgrady6666]

O he’s 25 😂

[@Jaywardogaming]

Okay jazz fan

[@judahjeremydelrio7886]

Exactly, P always trippin over nothing

[@TDR21]

I think the format for 25 under 25 was bad tbh. I would just go back to the old way it was a lot better

[@khizarhaider3228]

Mike thought we couldn’t see his socks 😭

[@Noahh33]

He promised no more mis matched colors and the next episode he pulls up in this 😭

[@nvm8824]

I think its shadows though

[@Natebdolo]

Nggas be lying

[@NvrBored]

Bro jus can’t dress lol which is crazy it’s so easy

[@ggwuero]

mike with the garbage bag fit on is crazy 💀

[@kevinbing2699]

Chet didn’t make their “List” of Top 25 of Under 25…even tho all of them had him in their top 12…shows how unorganized their list was

[@SmoothSmithh]

Clips gonna have a field day with this episode because nobody is prepared AT ALL 😭🤣

[@luheeeee]

day 4 of asking them to fix the rug on dmills side

[@bbcpfghs]

I hate to break it to you but people have tried to get them to fix it for like half a year and it’s never worked I’m starting to think it’s just a running joke for them not to fix it at this point lmao

[@luheeeee]

@@bbcpfghs tbh it’s Probally a wire or something but imma keep going until they fix it

[@kevinbing2699]

@ 28:39 LMAO MIKE IS on a completely different world, just talking that P had to say HUH? Mike really just doing the bare minimum and getting high AF 😂

[@markvstheworld9251]

He just listen to other people and agree with them 😭

[@NMHoops]

The face P gave him😭

[@mineseargent2482]

No wayyyy.. I’m doing dishes at work and I randomly think to myself “it’s Tuesday, I wonder if the boys have dropped.” Finish up, open my phone, and see five minutes ago numbers on the board. Let’s goooo

[@X2GX]

You perfectly described how clutch notb be sometimes. Definitely held me down when I had to do dishes at work before

[@jordanjuarez284]

Great show and love that y’all always try to change things up. Just a suggestion, it would be cool maybe if everyone named their 21-25, 16-20, 11-15, all the way down. That way we get different groups of players but also being able to hear everyone’s list instead of 1 name each every 3-4 picks. Always a great watch and cool to see the 2 hour streak going!!

[@kbis2cold]

So we just going to ignore the meaning of the word UNDER huh

[@IceBKN1]

That’s what I’m saying 😭 they talking abt ppl turning 26 being the reason they ain’t make the list when they should be talking abt ppl turning 25

[@davidmich5588]

@@IceBKN1yall realize it’s 25 AND under right? Not under 25

[@Ryn5t3r]

@@davidmich5588then it should be called something like “25 at 25 and under”. not “25 under 25” which implies everyone will be 24 or younger

[@IceBKN1]

@@davidmich5588 the title is literally “25 under 25” as in 25 players who are under 25 years old. It should’ve been players under 25

[@davidmich5588]

@@IceBKN1 this yall first time ever seeing them do this list or some? Quit acting slow Just cause the title is missing one word doesn’t change what it is No one has ever made a list saying lets do every player who is 24 or younger lol

[@connorsnothere0]

Mike dressed like raygun

[@Dmillseye]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@NvrBored]

😂😂

[@briansk8362]

Hahaha

[@B0ne8]

You guys either need a white board in the set so we can see the list and visualize. Or pay Austin a little more money to do graphics on the screen.

[@jedrzejs94]

RJ Barrett might lowkey be one of the most underrated player in the league, bro averaged 22/6/4 on 55%FG and 39%3P for the raps, like is he really worse basketball player as of today than derek lively or like brandon miller

[@aamirkhuller6277]

Feel that, prob just wanna see a bigger sample size from him (I'm thinking about how Mikal looked in that first half season in BK vs this past year. I think he's legit though, lot of opportunity on the raptors too

[@ibmacgrady6666]

Fax he been underrated

[@iBlackula]

I need a full season but yeah he looked fantastic next to IQ and Scott.

[@photobombr]

Yall gotta streamline these group rankings

[@No_Show_Thomas]

Once the basketball stuff over KB really be checked out highkey 😂😂

[@23lacross]

25. Dereck Lively 24. Immanuel Quickley 23. Brandon Miller 22. Darius Garland 21. Keegan Murray 20. Jalen Green 19. Coby White 18. Franz Wagner 17. LaMelo Ball 16. Jaren Jackson Jr. 15. Alperen Sengun 14. Evan Mobley 13. Cade Cunningham 12. NOBODY Technically they put Cade twice-(Chet Holmgren would slide in here) 11. Jalen Williams 10. Trae Young 9. Scottie Barnes 8. Zion Williamson 7. Tyrese Maxey 6. Tyrese Haliburton 5. Ja Morant 4. Paolo Banchero 3. Anthony Edwards 2. Victor Wembanyama 1. Luka Doncic

[@akz2628]

Idk about Paolo over Ja

[@23lacross]

@@akz2628 I think multiple people had Paulo at 4 which is why he was higher

[@andrewkraft2586]

How is Wemby over Ant? Maybe in a few years but not right now. Hes just not. And if we’re projecting he should be above Luka.

[@23lacross]

@@andrewkraft2586 Okay over Luka is nuts. Luka already has 5 first team All-NBA’s. And Vic can win DPOY next year while averaging 25 points next year.

[@prestonedits4365]

They posted this yesterday and I had to save it for tdy some they could make my 8 hour drive more bearable

[@jackk1754]

Here’s an idea that would make a ranking like this go a bit smoother, which I stole from a podcast I listened to years ago called the Top 10 Podcast. Divide your players into tier groups (1-5, 6-10….21-25). One of you starts by revealing the players you have in your 21-25 tier one by one. If you all have a player in the same tier, discuss that player. If someone has that player in a higher tier, wait to discuss that player once y’all get to that next tier. Once everyone gets through their first tier, move to the next one and repeat. At the end, once everyone’s revealed their full lists and discussed all the players, then you can go through and determine the consensus list.

[@1700-q3g]

man yall be having us waiting all day

[@smgyro1476]

Giannis's game is gonna translate just fine late into his career. He doesn't need to jump high to be effective. Instead of being 61% from the field he'll be 50%-54% from the field. He has a ton of height, wingspan/length, strength, passing ability, ball handling at his size, etc. He may not be the ridiculous 30 & 60+% from the field that he is rn, but he'll be insanely effective on both ends regardless. I've seen it in games where his hamstring or calf is hurt, and, as such, couldn't jump as high or run as fast. Like Lebron is still largely a guy who succeeds offensively off of his athleticism, size, strength, and length, and he's almost 40. No reason Giannis can't be very similar

[@Jay-jo7xw]

Mike was talking about a Scottie highlight and Pierre just cut him off and started talking to Kenny 😂😂

[@trevorlaneadams]

Great execution, terrible idea, and i h9pe y'all take that as a compliment sometimes ideas dont run smoothly but yall made the best of it

[@joshua5830]

I may be a little biased as a German but I think Franz is still underappreciated in the NBA.

[@samspurgeon1594]

Draft on my birthday hits different

[@Lucasfreemanfaith]

Happy birthday 🎉

[@jonathanandino3084]

Happy Birthday

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

happy you day brudda

[@briannaalisetv9987]

happy birthday!

[@jigglybooty9161]

happy birthday ma boy

[@TDR21]

Idk if yall noticed but with this format. Dmills went the whole episode without having to say his list at all, he just had give 5 picks. He probably lied cause yk how he does his lists

[@saulomartiteodoro]

damn.. Cade counted twice.. I appreciate the effort and I think the list could be done this way but needs more structure. Maybe next time: ya'll do a top 30 (because theres gonna be names that others dont put), have a weighted score per position on the list. Sum up the points for each player and rank the top 25. Then, reveal the list as you go.. and you all have a contest to push someone higher or lower based on what you see

[@Crazytreepig15]

I can hear Mike’s fit from here

[@emanuelcarrera6538]

For these larger lists it maye be easy for everyone to submit their own list then have one NOTB comprehensive list 1-25 based on the average ranking. And as you go through each player that is at their respective rank you can discuss “Oh I actually had him higher because…” or “His ranking seems skewed because someone ranked him really low..”. PickaSide did this for their top 10 NFL teams recently.

[@coderedhoops4036]

Episodes always come at the right time

[@errolldadon]

Good drop the mike this week. It’s a lot of answers man. Lamelo, Zion, Anthony Davis. It’s a lot of people

[@bbcpfghs]

I’m hoping that DG has a comeback season after last years disappointment…bro just gotta stop getting hit in the face lmao

[@errolldadon]

@@bbcpfghs facts lol

[@zeldaxkrimson]

thank you guys for carrying me through the work week 🤧

[@AidanXavier988]

The 2 contest idea is dope, keep it up y’all!

[@cdj93267]

Mike bringing up the old okc Russ middy he fr an okc fan😂

[@sammy1347]

You would think Paolo was young LeBron the way they talk about him lol

[@JoeyHuman]

They really let D Mills say Paolo led his team further after Tyrese made the conference finals (injuries yeah but Knicks benefited from injuries first round/Celtics all rounds/etc. too bad)

[@sammy1347]

@@JoeyHumanD Mills says stuff that makes you scratch your head all the time so I get it plus they've been overrating Paolo for a lil bit now, they've got a batch of players that they definitely think are a lot better or project to be a lot better than they are

[@bkelly625]

@@sammy1347 DMills is totally clueless he had JDub 17th but hypes Paolo to maximum level… Last 48 games regular season(of 71 he played)- JDub- 31mpg…. 20.1ppg 4reb 4.9ast 1.2stl .8blk 1.7TO 1.7threes 55.8/45.5/77.9 splits 63.8% TS and +301 Last 48- Paolo- 35.5mpg… 23.1ppg 6.9reb 5.9ast .8stl .6blk 3.1TO 1.6threes 44.9/33.1/74.2 splits 54.5%TS and +30 No player in NBA history has averaged 20ppg+ and 55%+ from FG and 45%+ from 3 for a full season and JDub just did for 2/3rds of his 2nd season for a 1 seed. Perhaps Paolo ends up better but if you were to ask this crew right now if JDub has a chance to be better they would say absolutely not no way which proves they drink too much casual kool-aid still. Pierre “I’m taking Paolo over Hali 10 times out of 10!” We will see how that will age lol

[@AllezArson]

When Paolo is running the east like young lebron was you’re gonna feel so dumb lmaoo clearly one of the most talented of the young stars

[@obi3924]

@@AllezArsonHe’s a little overrated the way people talk about him. I don’t see how he has “top 5 potential.” And there’s no way you could argue that he’s currently better than Tyrese Haliburton. He’s good but people need to relax. He’s much closer to Cade than he is to Haliburton

[@Anthony419o]

How the hell did they make this so complicated, just do it the normal way make your list, say the name and say your point. This method is so hard and difficult to follow

[@flawlesstune5881]

I think yall slowly realized this wasn’t the best format 😂. It all got jus so confusing to follow imo

[@bonusexitus2263]

I think if you are going to change up the format you should do a tier list of some sort. Do 5 tiers of a 5 and debate which players are in which tiers.

[@supermish8912]

already know this pod gonna have some devious takes

[@paulm394]

Love you guys art talk at the end genuinely shit was heartfelt and showed yalls friendship

[@VinoStacks]

Perfect timing. Per usual ‼️

[@princedaye3700]

IM SAYING

[@Slimerrrrr223zz]

Without p idk what we would be watching sometimes he’s the only one with energy, some says talks a lot but think about if he were like anyone of the other cohost the show would be so dry

[@NMHoops]

I agree, I don’t get why people mad at it. What do y’all wanna watch lol

[@Thirdstar]

Fr, he be ob sometimes, but he is much needed.

[@1800LUNATIC]

facts. Kenny got the most fans because of his channel but idk he always seem kinda arrogant. The 3 man shows with Dmills Mike and Kenny are so dry compared to Dmills Mike and Pierre.

[@222arora]

THIS ONES A BANGER IM SO READY

[@timemaster6155]

So they can be 25 years old even though it’s 25 UNDER 25? Can someone explain pls

[@piquelitojr]

Its a 25 player list with people 25 and under.

[@Naxeio]

@@piquelitojrbut it’s under 25

[@piquelitojr]

@@Naxeio thats what the title says. But they do this yearly. And its always been 25 and under. Its a simple mistake.

[@zakmannn9421]

I guess it’s like playing 17u in aau and 17 year olds are playing 17u

[@marcelthejay]

@@zakmannn9421nah that just means 17 and under my guy

[@malcolmreese7545]

Been waiting for this since the gold medal game💯

[@samwitkowski3459]

Really liked this idea with the draft style rankings. I think if yall iron out some of the kinks for the next time it can be real cool

[@NormalNoah2001]

Perfect timing about to mow the lawn and needed something to listen to, idk how they always do it

[@piquelitojr]

2:11:15 its the best league in the world. With the best players. And if you win. You become the champion of the National Basketball Association. Therefore you are not world champions. Its that simple. Lol

[@bishopwittenmyer5319]

That conversation about skill translating to longevity, I know he said he doesn’t want to do it but Luka could probably play forever if he doesn’t have a huge injury.

[@KINGKAYLEB-vq2tb]

2:30:02 that silence 😭

[@APwarrior8]

What else we got?😭

[@photobombr]

P showing his age talking bout "You got Pinterest?"😂

[@km4n33]

2 and a half hour pod let’s goooo!! We eating boys

[@justing5682]

The pod really needs visuals man. Especially when y’all do lists. Especiallyyyy with this new confusing ass format 😂 Seeing the list on screen as y’all making it would’ve helped us follow much easier

[@mekhir2617]

Another year Another Cam Thomas snub

[@fishstickkilla464]

Even my girl said wtf y’all doing 😂

[@biagiogiso4990]

This episode was messy asl lmao, this is what I watch for tho, those genuine interactions between the members of the pod. If yall disliked the format is fine, but hating and this making yall turn off the podcast is just insane to me man. This might be glazing but fuck it bro, this is part of my weekly routine, i could have chosen any pod to listen to but i chose the best one.

[@Slimerrrrr223zz]

No bap

[@BzBuck]

in terms of that age debate one thing people always forget that despite the breaks Jordan was 40 when he actually ended averaging 20 pts and 6 rebounds playing 82 games and suprisingly having the 15th highest contract on that wizards team which were a 9 seed.

[@nateboss8554]

Anfernee Simons as a near 25 ppg, athletic 2 way guard equipped w perfect jumpshot and leading an offense should be on here

[@bkelly625]

He was dead last in the NBA by a lot in defensive estimated plus minus he is too bad on defense to make the list unfortunately

[@aamirkhuller6277]

As a longtime viewer, the Sengun-JDub debate felt like a marker of big growth from the early days

[@liammmmcculloch]

Damn yall didnt talk ab scottie after all that trae young chat

[@corbynpaurini9050]

was just about to type this lol I watched the hole vid waiting for the scottie talk

[@Jonathan-bn8uf]

This was a rough episode

[@pablocastillo3733]

Been waiting

[@JoeyHuman]

Does D Mills really think Paolo carried his team further than Hali because of W/L records even though Hali took a play in team on paper to conf finals? Paolo better have an MVP candidate trajectory in next 5 years with how this show talks about him

[@h0bby1st]

Just got some food thats making my mouth water... perfect timing fellas

[@Swank0623]

This one of the funniest ending to this podcast ever 😭😭😭😭

[@cronenberg-esque]

Unplugged saved the episode 😂

[@_Pxyte_]

That last story was crazy 😭😭

[@xsv2437]

I didn’t know I needed this but now I do

[@jwill5658]

the school story at the end with derrick and Mike got me crying dawg lmao and that roots assignment is insaneeeeeee lmao

[@PapaEmber]

These 2 hour pods are hitting bro

[@JustAChillGamer-kw1rq]

I would love a fantasy football section each week giving us updates on the league

[@nicholasscheid6367]

I've been waiting 😂

[@liambrett2057]

Great episode

[@db2ez]

Vets make rookie mistakes too 😂

[@sTheghost718]

I was bout to take a nap. Now I got sum to sleep too. The boys always come in clutch when we both to eat or sleep🙌🏾

[@LeonardGums]

1:31:50 why P cut Mills off like that 💀

[@jaxeyd]

Displaying everyone’s list to us would help a lot

[@tyhamilton5891]

Would it be possible to get a list on the screen as you guys go through it? Just like a box somewhere on the screen that adds the names as you go through it? Love the content keep it up gentleman

[@davidstevenson1628]

I’m trying to listen to your list while working. It’s too complex for me to follow. The old way is better just my opinion

[@BoktafJhonson]

how do yall do it everytime🐐🐐

[@nateboss8554]

Youngest player in the league last yr showed himself capable to explode for up to 44 points, always create his own with a deep bag, huge athletic frame, slashes through contact and doubles, and similar box score numbers to Keegan Murray already.. GG Jackson is coming y’all

[@saulomartiteodoro]

I liked this format a lot.. i just think it should've been kept as a blind draft with only players that were skipped being able to be exposed

[@supermish8912]

AT WORK AND LEAVING IN 30 MIN NEEDED THIS

[@Dmealzstan]

Love you guys, 4 headed goat

[@ManuMcGrady]

Is it possible for you guys to put a retrospective graphic list on the screen when y’all make a list, like when yall do top 5’s or redrafts it would be cool to see y’all’s pick under where yall sit or over your heads.