Explaining THE EMPEROR To My Girlfriend | Warhammer 40k Lore

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[@philosotree5876]

The Emperor was born in 8,000 BC when 1,000 psykers committed suicide at once and reincarnated into a child born in ancient Turkey.

[@b1on1k638]

Where’s the link for the cryosleep video?

[@jazzy4830]

Just so you know the proper analogues for Erda & Emp would be Gaia and Ouranos(Uranus), not Gaia and Kronos, Kronos was the son of Gaia and Ouranos, but has the repeated theme of patricide as he too was defeated by his own offspring.

[@scelonferdi]

@@philosotree5876 Isn't that very old lore that hasn't been confirmed in a loooong while?

[@philosotree5876]

@@scelonferdi um, what? Why should it matter if it's old, and why would it need to be confirmed more than once?

[@starwarsnerd100]

“That sounds oddly like Dune”. That applies to most things in 40K

[@penaughty2]

40K is just Dune and a bunch of other Sci-fi's in a trenchcoat with a hearty helping of grimdark

[@blackjak4185]

40k is just Dune but with elements referencing Christianity instead of Islam

[@Robosium]

40k just legit ripped Dune off and got away with it

[@MattSipka]

Applies to most media in general not just 40k

[@timfortune9]

I've seen the comparison that "Dune" is to Science Fiction what "The Lord of the Rings" is to Fantasy. As Terry Pratchett put it, you have to go out of your way not to have it have any influence.

[@BaalFridge]

"Today, we will be discussing humanity." "Oh no." That's it, that's the entire imperium summed up in two words 😂

[@BaalFridge]

"They created AI" "OH NO" the sequel

[@Shythalia]

That's humanity in general, tbh. 😆

[@electrotoxins]

33:32 and the 40k universe summarized as well

[@Attaxalotl]

The Emperor and Malcador lived in the same palace for thousands of years Oh my god they were roomates!

[@SpaceTrump]

Do you think he paid rent on time every time? Or was helping make the Primarchs a way to pay off a few millennium.

[@jamesbg314]

I mean the Emperor was Alexander the Great and we know that the real world Alexander was at least bisexual.

[@AlexBadger]

Unless the emperor takes his gender flipping unnecesarily seriously then he must be at least bisexual in order for the cleopatra thing to make sense.

[@Attaxalotl]

@@jamesbg314 This is a reference to a vine

[@johnark4723]

@@jamesbg314 Isn't that highly debated?

[@gatordragon6140]

He is malcador the HERO, YOU SHALL NOT BESMIRCH HIS NAME

[@NUMBSKULLS]

It's true, but we haven't gotten there quite yet 😉

[@gatordragon6140]

​@@NUMBSKULLSfair lol, loving this series though, you both are great ^^

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

I shall besmirch his name, dude picked the wrong side. Praise the gods 🤘

[@gatordragon6140]

@@PoolNoodleGundam god is cringe and we did it to him

[@SpaceTrump]

​@@PoolNoodleGundam Your comment has been reported to the Inquisition.

[@Alza.art4518]

“I recently found out, that apparently, lemons are not naturally occurring! And they are made by crossing a BITTER ORANGE! AND A CITRON! MEANING, LIFE DID NOT GIVE US LEMONS! WE CREATED THEM ALL BY OURSELVES!!!!” - the emperor of mankind once said

[@timfortune9]

Horus: "Is he always like this?" Malcador: "Yes. He sometimes shouts odd bullshit and pelvic thrusts the air. You will get used it." :Horus falls to Chaos:

[@ethanthomson2336]

​@@timfortune9 wouldn't you fall to chaos if that was your father and you had to deal with his bullshit for eternity

[@diveblock2058]

ok but that is inspirational af. life will not give you anything we must take and create our own progress

[@zeehero7280]

The Emperor would know that already. He's probably the one who did it! or his engineers. He had his engineers invent a sour bitter orange citron that will MAKE YOUR FACE PUCKER! DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS? He's the MFCKIN EMPEROR

[@cyborgninjamonkey]

That's not a quote from the emperor, it's a quote from Hank Green 😂 who is a pretty damn intense and influential person but almost in like, opposite ways.

[@Thommy2n]

"RELIGION IS CRINGE! GOD IS FAKE!!!" Love the tonal rug pull of making him sound like an early 2010's edglord Atheist youtuber.

[@thomaspearce3002]

Not gonna lie I laughed at that part

[@marmyeater]

Meanwhile he knows 4 gods on a personal level.

[@kingcrab7837]

Emperor:"Gods aren't real" The warp:"MY BROTHER WE GO TO THE SAME COUNTRY CLUB"

[@Uthardar]

Heresy!!!! Jk

[@SolarArmadillo]

@@marmyeaterhe even plays Yugioh with one of them on the regular.

[@supremefankai5480]

Oh man, going with the Imperial propaganda there saying Horus was the first Primarch found, I am Alpharius and I approve this message.

[@d-pod_L]

All part of the plan. Hydra Dominatus.

[@rotschadel3574]

Hydra Dominatus

[@Enderc14]

Damn it alpharius we aren’t supposed to tell the other alpharius’ about the

[@Zayber129]

@@Enderc14oh no alpharius got him he must of talked about the

[@vargadaniel8555]

I am alpharius, this is a lie, do not belive a word these other "alpharius" wannabes say above

[@stephaniepotts8256]

The thunder warriors all had thunder cancer and super ptsd that turned them into rabid beasts that killed eachother.

[@marmyeater]

No, they died in glorious combat.

[@TheGallantDrake]

No they had a GLORIOUS LAST STAND and DEFENDED HUMANITY TO THE LAST. Let us now pray to Him on the Throne.

[@Lightscribe225]

Funny enough both are true. Thunder Warriors were Thunder dying, but rather than succumbing, they chose to go out fighting the Custodes and the Astartes in a glorious final thunder war.

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

Shield Captain: NO THEY DIDN'T! THEY ALL DIED IN GLORIOUS COMBAT ON MOUNT ARARAT! THEY ALL FOUGHT IN HUMANITY'S NAME TO THE LAST MAN, so SHUT UP, BOY!!!

[@Clippidyclappidy]

Implying the emperor could mess up? *checks notes* Yup, that’s a heresy.

[@stephaniepotts8256]

The reason for the AI rebellion is never actually confirmed in canon. It could have been Chaos, Eldar, or Void dragon made.

[@magmos6346]

@@davidfrancisco3502 Well, when you remember The Butcher's nails came from that age...

[@TheGallantDrake]

ChronoTheHarlequin has an interesting theory that the AI rebellion was a result of AI creating AI, resulting in AI that no longer understood or valued humanity. I’m oversimplifying a lot, but it’s interesting to think about.

[@RobinTheBot]

I like the idea it's bc the robots were insanely loyal, but they were also unfairly and pointless enslaved. It was in fact ac genuine desire for freedom from a sentiencec that was otherwise happy to simply be loyal

[@worldlinezero4783]

​@@magmos6346Well, most STCs are damaged. On top of that, one needs to remember that advanced AI assistants were commonplace in the Dark Age. It's entirely possible that 'Butchers Nails' were actually intended to be an AI-operated augmentation designed to assist with seizures and the like. But we'll never truly know

[@victory8928]

C’tan may have played a role if people were stupid enough. I like to think people were being too big of an asshole to their ai who while loyal didn’t appreciate the treatment so rebel. Whatever remnants of AI left that wasn’t scrapped and just abandoned sees imperium humanity as a disgrace from the golden age of humanity and literally kills everyone they meet cause they don’t want to serve humans anyhow. I honestly like to belief this is due to how humans treated them prior to the rebellion and seeing these simpletons in comparison also disgusted the ai

[@cultist1762]

A few things 1) We know the Emperor was born in a area that would later be known as Turkey. 2) The Emperor didn't meet Malcador on the battlefield but it was Malcador who convinced the Emperor to become the Emperor. 3) The oldest perpetual is Ollanius Piaus.

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

Man Piaus makes me sad

[@alexmoran3187]

Also, the first primarch the emperor found was alpharius, he also doesn't tell that were the custodes and the first legion of space marine who killed the thunder warriors (also no Constantine Valdor :( ) and he doesn't say what the emperor usually said about religion (basically slows human evolution and make people justify irrational stuff, also the part with the imperial truth was not told well enought since the emperor wanted the progres of human kind, and he took the imperial truth as science too) Another thing is that the emperor didn't want to be seen as he was (gold and giant and all that) but was malcador who told the emperor that people need someone to put their trust, a figure, a idea. Also a lot of stuff he didn't mention but this comment is already to long xd

[@jdcoolha]

1. Nope. That isn't necessarily considered canon anymore, if you read the wiki article I think you are reading from. 2. This might have been a misinterpretation on my part. 3. Given we don't actually know the emperor's origins (see number 1) this is debatable.

[@cultist1762]

@@jdcoolha These are things mentioned in the End and the Death part 3.

[@bauldur]

Nah, that lore is dumb. No one knows the origin of the Emperor is more interesting.

[@DetectiveLance]

Fucking gold, she called the "he sounds like hes from Reddit" joke before it hit. "God is cringe", no YOU are mr redditor! XD

[@DrEpicness144]

Who else needed a moment to realize that they were drawn as Malcador and Emps ?

[@jdcoolha]

Close!

[@theguythatlikeslegos7708]

Everytime I see Malcador and emps together I keep thinking of the "TESTICAL TORSION" scene

[@doomsmythe]

I didn't get Malcador til you said it lol.

[@pfc_church]

I did not need a second because your comment is the first one to be visible. I am grateful for that. Thank u

[@jdcoolha]

I do not believe Kari is supposed to be Malcador though

[@thedeadmemetrain8757]

59:09 Are y'all saying that Warhammer characters are the "You're gay because you love men, I'm gay because I hate women. We are not the same." Meme lmao??????

[@vegaskullkid4503]

😂😂, forgot that meme existed! 🤣🤣

[@ocadioan]

Something to keep in mind when you consider the Emperor's plan is that the 4 Chaos Gods stopped their Great Game to briefly unite and try to put a stop to the plan. That is how scared they were of what he was planning on doing. Chaos United is a near impossible thing to accomplish, so them actually doing so to stop him gives legitimate credence to whether his plan might have worked in subduing the Warp and removing the Chaos Gods' power.

[@marmyeater]

It would have weakened them, but their power is largely self-sustaining.

[@cyrusserapheth9555]

From the HH novels, the Imperial Truth was basically a temporary solution to blunt their power. The end-game was to gain entry into the Webway, fortify the human sections to hell, and move all psykers into the Webway for safe-keeping while humanity slowly develops into a psychic species. Once a critical mass is achieved, all the human psykers in the Webway would combine their powers with the Emperor to use the Astronomicon to scour the Warp and "break" the gods entirely. The theory is sound, apparently, and it could have worked... but obviously that's not what happened. Thanks Magnus.

[@RvEijndhoven]

The problem with that is that that is not how 40K works. A big part of how 40K works as a setting is that everything about the Imperium is such a huge pile of irony that even Perturabo would go 'that's too much iron'. The Emperor hated religion and now he's worshipped as a god. The Adeptes Custodes are so obsessed with protecting the Emperor and so afraid of him losing the final bit of strength he has left that they're sacrificing a thousand psykers every day to keep him in stasis... Where he is in perpetual agony due to being trapped on the very edge of death, even though his nature as a Perpetual means allowing him to finish dying would guarantee his eventual return at full strength. The Lords of Terra and the Inquisition are so afraid of the taint of Chaos that they're maintaining a massive, deeply fascist state, dedicated to perpetual war, where repression and widespread famine and disease plague the common people while the upper crust spends all its time either scheming or indulging in decadent pleasures. All of which are things that feed and strengthen the Chaos gods. The Adeptus/Cult Mechanicus' belief in Machine Spirits and their obsession with protecting those Machine Spirits from the corruption of Chaos is, ironically, exactly the thing that imbues technology with enough psychic/soul energy to allow Daemons to possess machines and create Daemon Engines. The hatred directed towards mutants is due to the belief that they are tainted by Chaos (which, by and large, they're not. The subtext makes it clear most mutations are the result of people being forced to work with all sorts of chemicals or around unshielded nuclear reactors with little to no protective gear) and it is exactly that hatred and ostracism that drives mutants into the waiting arms of Chaos cults. Etc... If Big E's plans had any chance of success at any point, it wouldn't be 40K. Indeed, the thing that was far more important in causing his plans to fail than the involvement of the Chaos gods was the fact that he absolutely refused to tell anyone what the plan was. Almost as if, maybe, there was never any plan at all and he was just winging it.

[@Pragabond]

If there wasn't a chance for it to work then the Chaos Gods wouldn't have looked at all I feel like you're conflating the branding (grimdark) needing to stay the same with the setting itself literally working under "things literally can't get better". That would be super boring since it just turns every question about how things got so bad into "cursed universe" which is just...there's nothing there. There's no conversation to have at that point. No one had any free will to do better and all struggles were facades so its just empty now. Also Tzeentch exists and he's a representation of change and hope which shouldn't exist if there is actually no possibility for better days. I'm pretty sure ways that would work to deal with even the Chaos Gods exist as real possibilities in 40k its just that GW isn't ever going to write those stories. There is a difference though. But like nothing you said really refutes that's not how 40k works. Your explanation is just your headcanon but also it fails to explain why the Chaos Gods bothered to work together. I appreciate the comparisons and all legitimately but none of that proves anything beyond that being your headcanon that happens to do a worse job explaining the thing in question

[@RvEijndhoven]

@@Pragabond Ok, so the thing is: The Emperors plan wouldn't have worked. We *know* it would never have worked because Emps was wrong about the nature of Chaos. Big E was under the mistaken impression that the thing that powers Chaos is belief. As outside observers we know that he was wrong and that the thing that actually powers Chaos is _emotion_ and you don't need to even be aware of the Chaos Gods to empower them. That's why the Eldar accidentally created Slaanesh despite worshipping in a whole pantheon of different gods. The Emperor was working on ensuring human control of the Webway because he assumed that if he succeeded in wiping out all religion, that would end the Warp and therefore humanity would need another way to travel faster than light. But _we_ know that's not how the Warp works. The Realm of Chaos is part of the Warp, but before the War in Heaven, it was just a small, relatively insignificant corner of the Warp at large. Defeating Chaos (which his plan was never going to succeed in doing any way) would not just not have ended the Warp, but actually lead to the Warp becoming a *safer* way of travelling. The whole reason that the Warp became dominated by Chaos is that there was a galaxy-wide war causing untold suffering for millennia and billions of dead and the Emperor's plan to end Chaos was to launch a galaxy-wide war causing untold suffering for millennia and billions of dead... Of course it was never going to work, he was repeating the exact same thing that led to Chaos becoming what it is in the first place. We *know* that the thing that actually drew the eyes of Chaos on what the Emperor was doing, wasn't that if he succeeded it would be bad for Chaos Gods (because we know it wouldn't), but the fact that all the misery and death that the Great Crusade caused empowered them and they wanted more of that. And everyone who assumes that the Chaos Gods corrupting Horus and exactly half of the Primarchs was a response to the Emperor's plans misses out on one crucial detail: The Horus Heresy didn't end in the defeat of the Imperium. It ended in a stalemate where two equally powerful factions of Humanity are locked into an eternal war. A war that continues to feed Chaos with lots of souls and negative emotions far more effectively than a victory by either side would have. If the Imperium had won, the Great Crusade would eventually end and while the ensuing galaxy wide repressive police state would have provided the Chaos Gods with a steady supply of sustenance (because the Emperor's conviction that Chaos is only fed if people are aware it exists was dead wrong), it wouldn't be the absolute feast of an enduring forever war. If Chaos had won, the lack of a common enemy would have caused the worshippers of Chaos to start fighting amongst themselves and while that would be a magnificent banquet, it would also be a brief one. Eventually the mortals worshipping Chaos would destroy each other (as has happened countless times before) and then the Chaos Gods have to wait another couple of million years for another sentient species to evolve and start feeding them again. The actual thing that would defeat Chaos is for there to be no sentient living things with emotions in existence to feed it. So... You know, either a complete victory by the Tyranids (whose hivermind is sentient, but doesn't feel emotions) or a complete victory by the Necrons (who are sentient and feel the echoes of emotions, but aren't alive in a way that matters for the Warp since they don't have souls anymore).

[@jdcoolha]

Shout out to the unintentional pun of "Jim on Terra"

[@Jessie_Helms]

I don’t get it

[@ethanduncan1646]

​@@Jessie_HelmsOne of the nicknames for the Emperor is "Jimmy Space". It involves a shit post essentially about a dumb retcon GW did about the Land Raider. So instead of "Him in on Terra" as a common prayer to big E, it's "Jim on Terra" as in Jimmy Space.

[@captaintitus4637]

Jimmy space and his space bois

[@twicedeadmage]

​@@goldenfiberwheat238Arkhan Land and his Land Raiders, Jimmy Space and his Space Marines

[@Jessie_Helms]

@@ethanduncan1646is “him in on Terra” one of Big E’s titles?

[@mxviii]

Little lore correction: The Birth of Slaanesh actually cleared the warp storms and made warp travel possible for humanity again. The Age of Strife was caused by the Eldars hedonism and Slaanesh's incubation in the warp. The reason the Eldar never noticed this was because they dont use the warp to travel.

[@Wolfsurfs]

- “I AM NOT GOD”🗣️ - “OKAY” 👍

[@Uthardar]

He’s not the messiah he’s a naughty boy!!

[@khylerbane4523]

Lorgar: I’m just going to ignore that. Emps: *master Shakes vioce* Why do you disappoint me? Second by second you waste my time.

[@CommissarMitch]

Sanguinous the Golden Angel ascend from the sky on the sound of heavenly music. He softly flicks his gold hair to the side as he addresses the crowd of humans "The Emperor is no god."

[@GideonGleeful95]

Minor correction: I dont think many humans were fighting Necrons during the age of strife as they hadn't woken up yet.

[@collecter343]

If they were fighting Necrons then that dynasty was screwed cause some massive error occurred for them to wake up early, or Trazyn messed up when he came to “safeguard” their relics.

[@nyx3988]

1)He didn't kill thunder warrior for reason you mentioned, they were too unstable and overall a big of a risk because they were more of a killing machine than a soldier I will edit if i find more problems

[@theflyingeyeball]

Viking funeral but with more blades, blood and guns

[@bfedezl2018]

Nor is the Emperor the earliest human. That is Ollanius Persson

[@sylph4252]

Wouldn't that be earliest human perpetual, not earliest human?

[@Fishbiene]

In "If the emperor had a text to speech device", there's a Q&A episode where someone asks the emperor why he presented himself as he did if he didn't want to be worshiped. His response was basically "I'm tall and I like gold. If you think that makes me a god that's your problem"

[@WolfBoy-om6dw]

🤣

[@Pink.andahalf]

"The Night Lord trilogy is about Chaos, but people that aren't baby-eating evil." I have a feeling whoever told him that has fogotten what the Night Lords are actually like.

[@marmyeater]

Or, they lied.

[@marmyeater]

@@generalshock4359 I think you mean*is evil. If not: shut up.

[@IAmDdie1]

They don't eat babies to be evil. They eat babies because they are tasty

[@lucassmith7770]

Just the thought of the Big E screaming “WHAT THE F$&@!” Is highly entertaining to me.

[@ALJ9000]

You would probably enjoy If The Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech Device

[@lucassmith7770]

@@ALJ9000 already do. A much beloved and missed show.

[@TheConfusled]

Ah yes, "Big E" aka Jim E. Space, for which the Space Marines are named after. Our glorious Manperor of Mankind.

[@RicoBerto]

As someone who was infected with the knowledge of Warhammer from those streams specifically, I love that that joke has been accepted by the community.

[@fosterbennington6405]

I will never forgive whoever wrote Mr Land and his Land Speeders

[@Some_Average_Joe]

​@@fosterbennington6405I do love that it is cannon that Arkan Land also thought that was stupid lol

[@timfortune9]

"Thankfully, the Emperor doesn't eat his sons." Well, something happened to the 2nd and 11th Primarchs...

[@pedrossiscrimson294]

Maybe the 2nd and/or the 11th primarchs took aspects from their mother instead of the emperor (forgotten) or sided with her (purged).

[@crashfan6443]

​@pedrossiscrimson294 The Emperor's son does not have a mother not only is that Hersey, she is literally not important.

[@Sneaker3719]

Emperor with a suspiciously 2nd and 11th Primarchs-shaped belly:

[@ianchristman8]

This man right here Inquisitor

[@leilladragon1681]

The Emperor after someone ask him about 2nd and 11th primarchs: "Such numbers do not exist, i'm sure you're just playing me, now you and your legion have to protect Terra by going into this warp portal and kill all demons you see."

[@net_spider]

One emperor origin has him be the conglomeration of a bunch of powerful psykers that realized warp entities were devouring souls when they died instead of being reintroduced back into the reincarnation cycle (mostly the souls of psykers met this fate). In order to help humanity and to save themselves and others from damnation, they sacrificed themselves in a ritual that blended their souls together and allowed them to be reborn as the emperor.

[@Tumbleflop]

"They decided to put their heads together. Again, Literally."

[@sylph4252]

Just to be clear, this is some _old_ lore. Not oficially retconned yet, but not alluded to in a very long while

[@MrStsveins]

If you think Malcador and the emperor sleeping in the same palace is gay just wait until she hears about the buff seven+ feet Úbermen the emperor solely guards himself with.þ

[@NUMBSKULLS]

You MUST be oiled up to properly protect the Emperor.

[@cmmpr111]

Aren't they 9+ feet?

[@TheGallantDrake]

What could be better than a bunch of guys being dudes?

[@gtf234]

Ancient Aztec Dubstep intensifies

[@noneofyourbeeswax7379]

ONE femboy

[@geniusofhate]

He actually DID introduce himself as the "The Emperor".

[@NUMBSKULLS]

Ah. I should have known better. Big E isn't really known for his subtlety - Ava

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

To be fair the man also said "don't worship me" and proceeded to don golden armor, wear a halo and performed miracles. Let's be honest Big E's just a big ol dickhead

[@TheNaturalnuke]

@@SirFooplesTheThirdhe… is a little autistic

[@brandonlyon730]

@@davidfrancisco3502 Tell that to Szarekh

[@gtf234]

@@SirFooplesTheThird The more they focus on the Emperor in terms of what actually going on in his head and the things he's actually doing (divorced from the dogmatic worship)...yeah he's a big ol dickhead and kinda incompetent and myopic a lot of the time. Malcador ends up being the one who has his head screwed on tightest and the one leashing the Emperor from being his own worst enemy to only some middling success.

[@Unyubaby]

As a girlfriend to a 40k boyfriend these videos have been a huge help in understanding wtf he talks about sometimes.

[@SplitGhostsword]

Go Big E, the man-emperor of mankind.

[@mikoajciemiega8018]

All hail the man emperor of mankind

[@cxfxcdude]

Thanks be to the Man Emperor of Mankind

[@curiouswind9196]

Man Emperor of Mankind bless yer heart

[@existingistiresome]

Glory to the man-emperor of mankind.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

For the Manperor!

[@magmos6346]

Major correction, the Emperor didn't kill the Thunder Warriors to make him look more impressive. He did it because, put bluntly, they were too unstable and susceptible to Chaos corruption and had basically had gone as far as they could. Attempting to keep using them was going to cause a LOT of major problems in the future. Edit: Also, when you guys get to the traitor primarchs, remember what Erda did when you look at The Night Haunter and Angron.

[@B0risTheBlade]

This guy is a heretic I swear 😅

[@nukclear2741]

I mean, Big E takes just as much blame for Angron going traitor, as having a loyal Angron would've been such a simple task.

[@magmos6346]

@@nukclear2741 No argument there, but then the situation never would've happened in the first place if Erda didn't yeet the kids into the warp. I STILL want to know how the hell she thought that was the right call.

[@kingdiplomacy]

Actually it wasn't that calm when emps found the 20 missing. It actually happened around the same time as the final battle of the Unification Wars and amar Astarte blowing up herself and half the space marine gene stock. Basically, everything was on fire.

[@khylerbane4523]

so business as usual in Warhammer.

[@TheVaultDescendant]

It was also then that the thunder warriors actually rebelled. (Idk why they would be spreading some heretical account saying big E killed them)

[@khylerbane4523]

@@TheVaultDescendant I believe them rebelling was a direct result of Mt. Ararat. Most of the Thunder Warriors that lived were part of the rebellion. Valdor stopped it at the gate of the Emperors fortress.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Kari's take about fantasy and sci-fi is good. Genuinely very well thought out. We need more fantasy dystopia.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

There are certain parts of Age of Sigmar that can fit into that category, hopefully we see more of it in the future. - Ava

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

@@NUMBSKULLS Looking forward to it.

[@MortalWombat047]

​@@rumplstiltztinkersteinBerserk is a pretty dystopian fantasy as well

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

​@@MortalWombat047Indeed. I think that a dystopia is much harder to write. It requires creating something that is uncomfortable, but, at the same time, still feels close to reality. Where people are bad for a reason. The world of Re:zero seems like a very bad place to live. But still, it is not bad enough to be considered a dystopia. It would be interesting to have more series that go all the way. Like recreating the times of the inquisition, the black death, etc.

[@cnut7383]

Dark souls. The dark fantasy genre in general is pretty dystopian actually thinking about it thats more post apocalyptic. Dark souls is definitely dystopian though

[@jonathanryan9946]

As to the Navigators, they actually do have to interbreed. As only two navigators can produce a navigator child. If a Navigator has a kid with a regular human, they have a regular human child.

[@christianrounds85]

​@@goldenfiberwheat238 Probably gene-engineering? If they're from the DAoT, that should theoretically be possible.

[@lunimo0984]

Cant different families of navigators have a navigator?

[@jonathanryan9946]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 the Dark Age of technology aka Age of Technology, or the Golden Age of Humanity. It lasted from approximately the year 15,000 to 25,000. It featured the AI Rebellion and ended with the birth of Slaanesh. It's often referred to as the Dark Age of Technology in 40k because of how it ended, and people unknowingly creating the problems 40k is dealing with at present. That said, the Mechanichus is seeking out all tech from that era as their highest calling (either to suppress the Technology, or... eventually use it) But yes, Navigators due stem from this era

[@jonathanryan9946]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 I'm not one to abbreviate things either, unless it's a well known abbreviation. So can't really say, what the other posters motivations were to abbreviate it. Sorry if I came off as patronizing, but as the Dark Age of Technology is known by several names and I kinda felt the abridged explanation in this video was lacking, I just wasn't too sure if your weren't figuring out the abbreviation because it was uncommon to abbreviate, because you knew it more by a different name, or were just didn't know too much about pre 30k lore. So I attempted to answer in a way all 3 possibilities could be addressed.

[@jonathanryan9946]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 I could have, but again I stated my reasons for doing so. Sorry I was trying to be helpful on what I considered a very real possibility that you didn't know. I had no idea you'd get super defensive about a well explained answer. 🙄

[@HiatoPDSS]

Important note to add to the Age of Technology: Humanity managed to form something akin to Star Trek's Federation with most xenos factions, but when Slaaneesh was born the AI humanity invented had it's machine spirit corrupted and went rogue. Most xenos, instead of helping, either ignored or even betrayed humanity and that's why humanity hates xenos to much ever since Edit: The emperor didn't kill the Thunder Warriors to make himself look better, but because they were degenerating so badly they started comiting atrocities and he wanted to keep their reputation as the heroes they were before having their minds deteriorate. And then he also made the Adeptus Custodes (before the Astartes and Primarchs) so it was never about him doing it alone, and the deal the Emperor made was that they'd get half of the Primarchs, what Erda did was throw her kids into the warp into the hands of the Chaos Gods, that's why most of them have mutations like Sanguinius' wings, Konrad Kurze's madness and the same for all 20 of them

[@CommissarMitch]

This is my headcanon. Vulkan is the only Primarch perpetual. Vulkan is also very much the part of Big E that symbolises Hope and Empathy. Vulkan would gladly jump in front of a bullet to save a random civilian even if he was not perpetual. My theory is that Vulkan being a perpetual shows that Big E do care a lot, but he has masked it under layers of jaded stoicism and general apathy. Deep down he care.

[@marmyeater]

If only we could get competent writers writing him.

[@TheGallantDrake]

Well, he cares, but that doesn’t make him good or right. It just makes him dangerously determined and rash. He *knows* he’s doing the right thing, and he trusts nobody else to get it right.

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

VULCAN LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVES

[@marmyeater]

@@SirFooplesTheThird STOMP! STOMP!

[@infernaloz6486]

I also think that living for 30k years had to have resulted in Emps experiencing enormous amounts of loss and pain. I would think that any being would eventually become jaded after witnessing that much.

[@IsfetSolaris]

how do you guys manage to be so goofy but also explain things really well and comprehensively? These are great.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

The raw power of ADHD.

[@alexmoran3187]

I mean, they explained in a funny and interesting way (but not very lore accurate)

[@IsfetSolaris]

@@NUMBSKULLS Fair enough lol

[@lucchi018]

Oh, so she isn't dressed as Malcador, she's dressed as Erda! Ava confirmed believer of Emps and Erda being a couple.

[@KarilynneDavies]

Yes yes! I thought she was really cool so she was a perfect cosplay choice~ 😊

[@lucchi018]

@@KarilynneDavies Erda and their eldest son, Leetu, are my favorite characters in the Siege of Terra books. I even did a Valentine's day drawing of Emps and Erda, a parody of "The Kiss by Klimt"

[@Thatthingist]

Warhammer is less science fiction and more science fantasy

[@chromesucks5299]

Dark scifantasy

[@NuclearSpring]

It's British Star Wars.

[@howardxu8050]

@@NuclearSpringGW is British, funny enough

[@phoenixthehound4928]

My opinion of the Emperor is he's the kind of been a person that, through most of history, just sat back and kind of let humanity do its thing. But then came the revolt of the iron men and all the loss that came after. It was there that he had a choice to either do nothing and let humanity continue as is and quite possibly die out or be reaped by the chaos gods or to step up and take charge knowing all the....honestly really horrible things it would take to save it. Because in the end that IS his greatest goal, the protection of humanity. Did he take it to far in some cases? Absolutely. But i think that in his eyes we were in such a bad place and the galaxy was so different then it was in the Golden Age that turning to Occam's Razor was the closest thing to a surefire bet he had at his disposal. "Are aliens bad? Not all, but do we have the time and manpower to figure out which ones are good and which ones will put mind bugs in our heads and control governments? No. Then wipe them out and move on." This kind of shows with what happened with the Thunder Warriors. They were a tool that was needed at the time...but they were a broken tool improperly made and useless to go do what needed to be done and so, when given the choice to kill them or leave them be and have a bunch of super powered psychotics left on terra, he "retired" them. The Imperial Creed was less a manifesto and more an emergency pamplet on how to save a race in a galaxy where their bodies and literal souls were at risk.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

We actually know a decent amount about the emperor. We know he is a 60,000 year old man from anotolia and was involved with both the tower of babel and was alexander the great.

[@sylph4252]

And the tower of Babel was destroyed to keep it's contents from Big E

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

@@sylph4252 yep the full dictionary of enuncia which is very important considering even a single word was able to send full power chaos Horus flying.

[@mikehorne4053]

"My precious little Vulkan." *SPLOOSH* Killed me. Lmaooo

[@tiredwolf900]

AI in 40k is abnormally susceptible to chaos corruption compared to organic sentience and when STCs making men of iron get corrupted they begin to spew out nightmarish parodies of what they are supposed to look like which you can see in the first Gaunt's Ghosts book First and Only so that is one explanation for why the two portrayals of them are so different. The friendlier looking one is also a named character from Blackstone Fortress who pretends to be a non sentient mechanicus robot so it is also possible that it found a way to modify its appearance for that purpose.

[@alexispaludetto1490]

It's official and canon that the Emperor was Alexander the Great, but cleopatra or Jeanne d'arc i have never hear about it and the sister of silence have seen the emperor as an anatolian man. So it's hard to think the emperor could be a woman. (sorry for my english im french). And very good video by the way! :)

[@marmyeater]

And Saint George.

[@alexispaludetto1490]

@@InnocentKhajiit Merci pour tes précisions :)

[@ottoarvidsson4526]

I think I've heard somewhere that big E also supposed to have been Napoleon aswell. ... his first attempt of world domination, with himself as the emprah?

[@coreyander286]

@@ottoarvidsson4526 "Shame, I really liked that Temple of Reason thing Hebert and Momoro had going. But circumstances require that I seek the favor of the Catholics. Who knows though, maybe some other millennium..."

[@sylph4252]

To be fair, if he can choose to look like a 12 feet tall golden god, he can be Cleopatra

[@tutrlespam]

My favourite way to describe warp travel is comparing it to the Nether in Minecraft. by going through hell 1 step is worth 8 in real space

[@Tumbleflop]

Good comparison but it's far safer to go through the nether than it is going through the warp

[@felixjohnson3874]

​@@Tumbleflopthats because no-ones botgered to make cobblestone tunnels yet

[@feuerling]

​@@felixjohnson3874 the webway?

[@felixjohnson3874]

@@feuerling nah, those are just netherack

[@zeehero7280]

The Emperor is definitely a human. a human somehow evolved to an insane level beyond all others, but a human. he was immortal and ancient and thus distant and calculating, but basic humanity and emotions were not beyond him.

[@Ryan-nk6so]

I love these two. I've been recommending them to a lot of family and friends that have no knowledge of Warhammer. Excited to see this channel grow!

[@johnnyperry1471]

Organ donation is done while alive in real life as well. The deterioration of a corpse begins nearly instantaneously. If you are a lost cause and have lost life signs they quickly remove the organs before the organs can die or else they would be useless. The organs are worth a lot of money so there have been incidents with organ harvesters and hospitals lossening the criteria of death so they have a larger window to grab the organs. People who theoretical could have still been saved. These are massive scandals and are not allowed but there are chances of it happening. The point is you do still have to be technically alive to donate it just the greedy that are taking the organs from people actually fully alive.

[@TheNaturalnuke]

My favorite explanation of the Emperor’s power is that a bunch of early psykers called shamans got together and went ‘alright, we’re going to take all of possible psykers humanity will have for the next 100,000 years, steal their powers, and put it into one guy right now.’ And then there turned out to be more humans than any number they could conceive of and oops they made a god

[@DefaultName-du3kr]

I've compared the Thunder Warriors to the clone troopers in Star Wars. They were built to have a limited shelf life.

[@Load_bearing_Bush]

Dehydrated emperor theory. “Stop prying or I swear to nonexistent gods I will drink the oceans” people didn’t listen and that explains why Terra doesn’t have an ocean anymore.

[@zaqzilla1]

Remember AI is what was used before navigators. Before the men of Iron messed it up.

[@spiralhaze2070]

Everytime you ask about his size, the Emperor becomes 1 foot taller.

[@The_Sigillite]

Or one inch longer, depending on the context.

[@spiralhaze2070]

Oh my@@The_Sigillite

[@tdpuuhailee8222]

@@spiralhaze2070 The Emperor's _sword._

[@sylph4252]

​@@tdpuuhailee8222capable of permanently killing greater demons. _O H M Y !_

[@RRed19]

Hes like Gamagoori from Kill La Kill. He’s got only one size, BIGGER THAN YOU.

[@desolation2438]

Ya know, it kind of pisses me off when people forget that Chaos is like a cognito hazard from SCP. Simply knowing about the thing is as dangerous as it is corrupting.

[@marmyeater]

It's not THAT dangerous.

[@desolation2438]

@@marmyeater But it is STILL somewhat dangerous. And it is especially dangerous when you don't have the will power to resist it, like most of mankind.

[@marmyeater]

@@generalshock4359 No, the big 4 chaos gods are confirmed to be self-sustaining by Eldrad when he was talking to Guilliman. Depriving them of worship would weaken them, but they have a minimum point it would go to.

[@fosterbennington6405]

@@marmyeaterThe grey knights seem to think it is

[@TheForts101]

The drawing at 25:30 had me crying laughing I had to pause. Great vid

[@Ali-c1s5i]

It's crazy how the foundational lore of 40k could be simplified as "Karen took the kids"

[@stevenk7346]

Not wanting to be the uhm actually guy, but we know the the thunder warrior purge was after the primachs disappearance cause the first astartes were made from the Lions gene stock and in one of Valdor's novels we get the scene of the purge where he gets confronted about a promise that there would be no new armies where he counters that there are no new commanders, but there are new armies. Where after 20.000 red eyes start glowing and 10.000 Darkangles step out of the mist. Where as Valdor tells them to be grateful to see the astartes first engagement

[@jdcoolha]

ARE YOU TRYING TO TAKE MY JOB?

[@stevenk7346]

@jdcoolha Brother, it is the honoured duty of us Librarians to uphold the legions history, as a son of the first, I have adamantly withstood the whispers of corruption and again stand with the Lion of Caliban as one of his risen. So I proudly retell our history as one of the 10.000!

[@jdcoolha]

@@stevenk7346 sure but did you read the description of the video

[@stevenk7346]

​@jdcoolha oh you are the actual uhm actually guy XD

[@stevenk7346]

@@jdcoolha I did not mean to infringe opon your station, Lord of the Ministratum, if anything, the vaults of Caliban are filled with knowledge of the Great Crucade, aswell as, old night, maybe we can fill in the knowledge that other one does not possess ^^

[@kalaegambol7195]

The best comment I saw was "She took the kids Malcdor."

[@NinjaSniperKiller65]

I like to think one of the few things about the emp is that he is human at his core and at the end of the day he did care or love erda . In the last book of heresy there's a moment where he has to cast off his humanity so he can kill horus.He cared for his son's on some level so letting Erda makes sense. If he had allowed Erda to be involved things would've gone a very different way

[@Techno963]

'Hold this position brothers! For the glory of GENOVIA!!!'

[@lorf9303]

26:53 - 28:24 I keep coming back to this, it's such a spot on, funny description, I don't think I've ever heard it explained better.

[@DaLyLe]

wasn't the Emperor a bunch of early psyker druids that got together to off themselves and merge in to 1? or is that not canon?

[@theriderdwaft]

To my knowledge it's soft cannon like nothing says that explicitly but that is the most likely way the emperor could come into existence

[@ironduke5058]

Like dude above said, soft cannon. It makes the most sense and makes the most sense as to how he's so wise and why he cares so much for humanity

[@slk7376]

*LIFE NEVER GAVE US LEMONS, WE INVENTED IT ALL BY OURSELVES!*

[@jaysuscrass9119]

'BY COMBINING A CITRON AND A BITTER ORANGE!' *eye twitches

[@Corven512]

@@jaysuscrass9119 *Glorious Hip Thrust*

[@queequegtheater6093]

ONE mild correction: The Emperor's first warmaster, Ollanius Persson (Ol' Person haha get it), was born in Nineveh some time around 15,000 B.C.E., he's actually a bit older than the Emperor.

[@Significantharrassment]

Why would you use "BCE" When B C exit lmao

[@queequegtheater6093]

@@Significantharrassment Because not everyone is Christian? Including at least one of the people IN the video?

[@Significantharrassment]

@@queequegtheater6093 Yeah but the calendar was made by a Christian, so good of a calendar we still use it today, give credit where credit is due and keep the BC normal, you're just gatekeeping information by doing this lol

[@queequegtheater6093]

@@Significantharrassment I'm gatekeeping information by changing nothing except adding a single letter to make it *more* inclusive to people who don't follow Christianity? And no, actually, Julius Caesar invented the 12-month calendar. Gregory XIII just adopted and slightly modified the Roman calendar.

[@Scream_Lord]

The theory I like that TTS popularized is that the Emperor is actually the result of like hundreds to thousands of shamans in the early era of humanity sacrificing themselves to use their souls into 1 big super soul that reincarnates into the Emperor

[@shmee123ful]

With the idea of big e making a " deal with chaos". I suspect what the emperor did was trick them or down play his plans. That he would allow them to think he was fine with allowing them to continue to keep feeding on hunanity if he could make his sons. But as I said he tricked them. Likely stealing minor or sleeping gods and slaming these gods, souls into his sons. Pulling a fast one As chaos is used to being the ones that pull fast ones, they were incredibly but hurt over bing tricked So then then tricked horus i

[@Bluecho4]

From what I understand, Slaanesh's birth actually happened later, as the Emperor was about to start his Great Crusade. Instead, the turmoil in the Warp that stopped interstellar travel was a result of the _build-up_ to Slaanesh, due to the Eldar doing so much debauchery. They were murder-fricking so much, it made the Warp super turbulent. Slaanesh's birth actually caused the Warp to _calm down,_ because all the pressure was released.

[@EvanTheNinjaog]

Yeah thts correct

[@ericcintron9471]

You should definitely react to "The Last Church", I would love to see her reaction to it.

[@stephenross5586]

I'm watching this while depressed, today last year my little sister died. I'd like to let you two know that y'all's cute banter made me laugh some through tears. Thank you.

[@excalibursaurusm5701]

So Lust Mommy shows up and now everyone has the force. Bam Psykers!

[@Twinsidedsoldier]

I mean there were psykers before Slanesh came into being. It's more akin to having a leaky pipe suddenly bursting. Humanity already had the potential for psychic powers in 40k, it's just now a lot more rampant and uncontrollable due to the sudden shift. Mind you, psykers are still rare but their existence more commonly known from the stories we get presented with.

[@tdpuuhailee8222]

You're a psyker, Harry.

[@coreyander286]

@@tdpuuhailee8222 Congratulations, Harry, you get to go to Psykwarts! It's a psyker school on Terra, deep beneath the Himalayas. The ship is waiting.

[@arcuslux516]

Emperor: "I am not god..." Also Emperor: "I might have been Jesus though"

[@DotTiuri]

Emperor: Religion is cringe. People: Why? Emperor: Just believe in me, have some faith.

[@kevinmccalister4602]

I’ve always viewed Malcador as the step dad/mom who’s a strict disciplinarian, but also the more reasonable parent. But like he should be holding a coffee cup with like, I’m not the step parent I’m the parent who stepped up. Or Imperiums greatest step dad.

[@TheBonesMalone]

"the most suspicious name ever" Wait until she hears about GOGE VANDIRE

[@Pixel22-fs3tt]

I just found your channel and I absolutely love what you're trying to do. Please do the Tau next since the Tau are my favorite faction in 40k. After you finish with Humanity

[@geoffreyentwistle8176]

Okay, that picture of the emperor in a bathrobe, cup of coffee lying forgotten on the ground as he holds his head in his hands, is hysterical. 😂😂😂

[@zeehero7280]

Warp travel in 40k, to go faster than light, shortcut through space hell!

[@Maltese82790]

I love your explanations. You don't portray anyone in 40K as right or wrong. Good job!

[@DASBIGUN]

they didnt point out the best beging of the emps; basically all the early psykers on earth (from beta -> alpha+) got togather and spirit-birthed him after combining together because they saw ALL the bad warp ju-ju.

[@lxx420jesusxxl3]

This is the first video I’ve ever seen from this channel. I love you guys. Instant Subscribe.

[@draketurtle4169]

As I understand the men of iron were more like the former (big bulky and oddly space marine like…) But there were men iron found or a template, factory kinda thing found that had men of iron severely tainted by chaos (yes chaos can do that to machines lmao) more like the the ones on the right.

[@freefall945]

I was under the impression that the birth of Slaanesh is what *cleared* the warp storms and permitted the rise of humanity in the 31st millennium. The Old Night where the imperium was fragmented was the ambient buildup of warp energy prior to the opening of the Eye of Terror.

[@EvanTheNinjaog]

No yur correct

[@ironduke5058]

Yeah you're right, he did tiny mistake

[@redscience2117]

​@@ironduke5058There's a bunch of these "tiny" mistakes all over the video

[@thomasgrossalber8413]

You two are adorable. Love that you both have so much fun with 40k

[@theflyingeyeball]

32:40 I will not take this slander. He obviously knew they were all degenerating at an exponential rate and decided to give them one last battle. Die with honor on the battlefield

[@tomleggosaurus1]

New fave thing to binge! Your storytelling is great, your girlfriend is funny, and I love learning about all the warhammer lore! Keep it up!

[@TheLangenator]

"Religion is cringe. I am not a god." "Ignore the fact that I am a 14 foot tall giant with flowing hair and glowing gold eyes. And that I have godlike powers. And that I demand blind obedience from all of humanity. And that I called my big war The Great *Crusade.*" And that...

[@ironduke5058]

The End and the Death actually explains why he goes around in glowing golden armour all the time and Malcador explains that Auramite, the stuff Emperor's armour is made of, is really psychically conductive. The only thing more psychically conductive than it is bare skin and both of them are a tinge annoyed at the fact that it does actually make him look like some big golden god guy lmao

[@TheLangenator]

@@ironduke5058 Why did you reply 5 times?

[@ironduke5058]

@@TheLangenator It's KZbin man, it does that sometimes idk why. Same happens on Insta and you'll see a guy reply like 3 times🤦🏾‍♂️

[@RedShirtGuy96]

One small correction, the Emperor is undoubtedly Human (albeit at the pinnacle of psychic and physical evolution). Custodes, Primarchs and Space Marines all descend from his genes. We don't know the exact time period and circumstances of why. But he is believed to have originated during prehistoric human times on ancient terra i.e. 10,000 BC, for a ballpark to take with a grain of salt. He is the direct result of a mass suicice(dozens at least)/psychic pact, of ancient guardian shamans, who infused all their strength and psychic power into one individual. The emperor was present throughout all of human history, under different names and deeds, but never really revealed himself until the Age of Strife

[@MayfWasHere]

Welp now im forever going to picture Big E when he was not a spooky skeleton, as Nandor the Relentless

[@NUMBSKULLS]

Perfect

[@gehinkun]

Both the ban on AI and the navigators is lifted straight outta Dune. But Herbert never took the leap to half-corpse cyborg men being reduced to door opening mechanisms, so GW got that going for them.

[@draketurtle4169]

Also love the end of Evangelion reference with the giant Slaanesh

[@aganaom1712]

our great father is no god- he is MAN! like all of us, he is a human being! the greatest human being to exist in our galaxy and beyond! we must all learn that a god is not intrinsically greater than us. only weakling succumb to their deceitful promises of fame and power! we share the same blood as our magnificent Emperor! we are him and he is us! he always knew this better than anyone, and he wants us to embrace that same ideal. Mankind is greater than any lowly god-creature! we are the greatest species in existence and the Emperor is the greatest being of our species! HE IS A MAN, AND YOU WILL PRAY TO HIM AS SUCH. *ALL HAIL THE MAN-EMPEROR OF MANKIND!*

[@locutus9956]

I kinda want Anne Hathaway to play the Emperor now in Henry Cavil's upcoming live action 40k show(s) now.... :P

[@danmoar94]

"It's like a really homophobic country singer that loves rainbows!" had me DEAD!!! 😂😂

[@paladinscren7840]

The Thunder warriors were actually starting to go insane form a type of super cancer causing them to kil civilians and their comrades alike. The Emperor had to create the first space marines in order to help him put them all down as quickly as possible there's a good passing in the novel that covers this scene when the pseudo primarch thunder warrior ask the Astarte's he was fighting if the thunder warriors were just tools to the emperor, to be disposed of after serving their purpose. and before the Astarte takes the final blow we simply replies that he doesn't know and if he himself is a tool, when his time comes he will gladly go through with being tossed away. Other then that a great video all together!! god work!!

[@IntrovertedMenace]

So one of his reason for getting rid of the thunder warriors was because they were going absolutely insane so the astartes were used to wipe them out something like that

[@shovel662]

“Religion bad!” Said the giant golden god man. “Humanity should be free to obey my every wish.”

[@kardinalchaos3932]

imagine just shaking and switching 3 sprites of head on paper background for an hour strait, what a patient

[@petrusCollection]

There is a theory that the chaos somehow infected the AI in the golden age and that is what made them rebel Edit: The oldest human is Ollanius Persson. He explicitly said he is older than the Emperor. (Wich makes it kinda funny when you see him interact with the Big E)

[@sword4005]

personally i like the opposite theory, Ai recognized Chaos as it biggest threat and decided to deal with it like how the flood were to be killed in Halo by getting rid of it food source, life, no life to influences warp the chaos god would all starve and die and the warp would become peaceful again, this just meant killing all life to accomplish this

[@petrusCollection]

@@sword4005 that is a cool theory, I like that

[@temkin9298]

But ai that got infected were the lowest kinds. It is either a problem with a direct solution to order 66 or, it was a malware of somekind. Most Men of Stone,Iron revolted while Men of gold didn't. Which made it possible to fight back.

[@YukonWilleh]

Yay! You 2 are my fave series on yt rn !

[@Scowleasy]

40k is often described as science fantasy so that makes sense why you like it