It was either Steve first or Steve first. I chose to go with Steve.
@Reggie7574 жыл бұрын
I saw Steve but then clicked the other Steve.
@0xss4 жыл бұрын
I saw both steves, clicked on linus’ video first as it’s much shorter 😂
@abiola824 жыл бұрын
@@0xss me too lol
@paullasky68654 жыл бұрын
35 minute proper benchmark review
@Brodda-Syd4 жыл бұрын
Da Benchmark King has to be FIRST! Technical Steve@GamersNEXUS 2nd Then "4K Gaming is DUMB" LTT last
@Pahhu4 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the 2060 getting 6 fps average in Wolfenstein at 4k.
@baxter0094 жыл бұрын
@@trollgemomo3823 980ti has 6gb also, so...
@baxter0094 жыл бұрын
@@trollgemomo3823 who knows...
@markiangooley4 жыл бұрын
Folding @ Home doesn’t use much memory, so the 2060 is pretty good for that, though not quite the best performance per watt. But if memory matters, ouch.
@ZinhoMegaman4 жыл бұрын
Could this be an error? This too strange to say the truth.
@ff000054 жыл бұрын
@@ZinhoMegaman possibly the new driver. 1440p also has the 2060 right at the bottom
@Goatie894 жыл бұрын
Thank you hardware unboxed for including older cards! I have a 1070 and been really looking forward to this launch. Looks great!
@ifrit353 жыл бұрын
So, have you been able to replace your 1070 ?
@devindykstra4 жыл бұрын
I almost didn't notice the spatulas on the shelf. Nice!
@Geion4 жыл бұрын
Spatulas?
@MauricioGMe4 жыл бұрын
@@Geion yes, look at the left side on the shelf
@Dtats24 жыл бұрын
Nice call to Jensen's kitchen 😁👌
@whammy7614 жыл бұрын
Looks like they got them from spatula city.
@aldawsarissm4 жыл бұрын
probably he use it to spread thermal paste on cpu
@HydraHead94 жыл бұрын
Just want to say THANK YOU. A lot of people will take all those cards you have listed on the benchmarks for granted now that quality of hardware reviews on KZbin is so high, but I appreciate the effort that went into benching every one of those cards on the exact same bench. Thanks :)
@Doobie30104 жыл бұрын
hydra Hail! 🤫
@TheNationalTrails4 жыл бұрын
Great production value here... Just thought to chime in and appreciate your keen overview here Hardware Unboxed! Thanks.
@dijigo15874 жыл бұрын
The best benchmarking channel on the planet, imo. Nobody comes close for quality, and razor sharp focus on the topics, the commentary, and the GRAPHS! "In a nutshell"... lol, love your work!
@sixtyinsix4 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@traxxax4 жыл бұрын
And that Aussie accent just gives it extra spice!
@paullasky68654 жыл бұрын
Yep. The other 10 minute reviews are a struggle after watching this.
@DubbalDeal4 жыл бұрын
i'll have to say i agree with your comment, for the longest time hardware unboxed have released videos that are both very informative and very unbiased compared to a lot of channels
@DubbalDeal4 жыл бұрын
yes im commenting only for youtube algorithm to show me relevant video recommendations
@m1ghtycs4 жыл бұрын
"So we have reviews from 30 different YouT-" "GIVE ME HARDWARE UNBOXED'S!"
@azkamil4 жыл бұрын
the true one!
@MohitKumar-jf8lz4 жыл бұрын
Plz its harbor unboxed.
@m1ghtycs4 жыл бұрын
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz True. My sincere apologies.
@ArteriusSaren4 жыл бұрын
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz you're both wrong its hammer on box
@Citizen_of_the_Verse4 жыл бұрын
Basically lol
@gompedyret4 жыл бұрын
I've seen several of the big channels, and I have to say, this is the best review vid. Kudos!
@ryanmoloney994 жыл бұрын
I sold my 1070ti a month ago for 250 and bought a 2080ti for 425 used that's a win for me 😁
@yiepie98224 жыл бұрын
that is excellent
@ezg84484 жыл бұрын
$250 for the 1070ti??? *Shrugs* More power to you and the buyer!
@NoLuv4Hoz4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job on this review. I like how you cut through the hype and deliver fair and balanced practical information. Thank you.
@bublybear90594 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best review I have watched yet. Thank you!
@hyprmetlfan1234 жыл бұрын
most detailed review as usually.. still waiting for RDNA 2 peformance review..
@lewis37744 жыл бұрын
Usual* and I think gamers nexus does an even more detailed one
@Saxie814 жыл бұрын
@@lewis3774 I'd agree. The only thing I don't agree about with this review is the use of the Ryzen.
@Saxie814 жыл бұрын
@Seno rac perhaps. Even on their own write up here www.techspot.com/review/2084-amd-or-intel-for-gaming-benchmarking/ below 4k on the titles being shown we didn't have improvement until we hit 4k. They might be future proofing as Intel appears to be stuck in a rut that's 14nm deep It's also harder to look at their numbers and compare it to what others are getting, as they will be more than likely using the 10900k
@DarkHerring694 жыл бұрын
@@lewis3774 Gamers nexus sometimes spam with unnecesarry detail. Hardware unboxed always hits the marks imo
@kittyyuki15374 жыл бұрын
@@DarkHerring69 GN caters to the specs and stats nerds xD (I know I am I dig it) but Hardware Unboxed reviews are always straight to the point.
@southbronxny57274 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best with these benchmarks. My head is spinning with information overload.
@RavTokomi4 жыл бұрын
We're gonna need a 4K gaming monitor roundup, stat!
@hetashar65094 жыл бұрын
Just upgrade your tv.
@jonessii4 жыл бұрын
@@hetashar6509 tv is not a monitor
@MrRipple1234 жыл бұрын
@@jonessii it totally is a monitor. im reading this on my 43 inch 4k sony tv. works great.
@shootinbruin36144 жыл бұрын
@@jonessii Some TVs are already for all intents and purposes monitors, especially the ones that have HDMI 2.1
@spicyghost66554 жыл бұрын
@@MrRipple123 the monitor part is just a bonus. TVs are made for watching tv shows or watching movies for example. the biggest difference in TVs vs monitors are the sizes. a 4k tv starts at 43inches while a 4k monitor can start at around 28inches. also monitors have higher refresh rates than TVs so imo a 4k monitor makes sense to pair with the rtx 3080
@zeng584 жыл бұрын
It’s official Microsoft flight simulator is the new crisis lmao
@zorbalight39334 жыл бұрын
Nothing new there Flight Sims have always been that way.
@lazeran49004 жыл бұрын
bottlenecked by dx11
@Sylar0n4 жыл бұрын
Quake 2 RTX is the new Crysis for some time.
@Republic3D4 жыл бұрын
FS 2020 was the only game that mattered to me. I even bought a new PSU to be ready for the Ampere cards. But seeing this, I think I'll wait for 3080 20GB version at least.
@quasii74 жыл бұрын
Crisis wasn't so badly optimized, it was just really heavy because of the great graphics.
@Omiicron4 жыл бұрын
I see you've accumulated the spatulas in recognition of this event!
@johnnygreene46584 жыл бұрын
Best review I've seen, very detailed. Keep up the great work guy's!
@Disobeyedtoast4 жыл бұрын
Why do we keep letting Nvidia get away with such misleading marketing when we would blast AMD (and especially intel) for the exact same things?
@ps22324 жыл бұрын
Wait what ... I'm a Massive AMD fan and I rarely see any tech tuber blast AMD over anything let alone when they do worse things and many go out of their way to hate on Nvidia because its hip to hate Nvidia these days and generates good clicks. I personally think its funny drives my AMD stocks up when they do lol
@scorpian0074 жыл бұрын
because there is no competition in the high end sector. As sad as it is, but Nvidia is the only choice currently.
@busterbluth79074 жыл бұрын
Because almost every company markets based on best case scenarios.
@dmahasan0074 жыл бұрын
Dont need to see other reviews after seeing this. Now i can sleep.
@michaelspamslt88204 жыл бұрын
Whos here after the drama
@gamersanditparadise4 жыл бұрын
To how much degree does he need to talk about ray tracing? He has already tested games with and without it. What more does nGreedia want?
@ianc41784 жыл бұрын
Me! Nvidia's hissy-fit has gained Steve another subscriber :) Nvidia's marketing BS has been called out for what it is by more reviewers than just Steve. He is also largely right - the majority of games still do not support RT, as much as Nvidia want them to, so why review them? - the only cards they can be compared to is Nvidia 2000 series cards & we already know the 3000 series cards are better, if a little inconsistent. They are the ones that want the technology to move forward, so until Nvidia get their wallet out & support more developers, in-game RT support is unlikely to change - it's getting there but very slowly. As for DLSS ... run a game @4K, switch DLSS on & drop the actual resolution to anywhere from 720p to 1440p? Then have the software think it knows what you should be seeing? Hmm, 2.0 may be better but it's still not there - needs more work, Nvidia. & before anyone comments I have never bought an AMD GPU. I am, however, considering one this time around & this sort of s*** from Nvidia is only helping that decision.
@pedrobear1014 жыл бұрын
Oi
@DuBstep1154 жыл бұрын
@@ianc4178 What does it matter what the real resolution is? If the game looks good and runs 50% better I don't care if the dlss renders the game at 360p
@alvinlepik52654 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand what is so no-no for nvidia about these reviews.. I'm not seeing it.
@1snipoukos0074 жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering if 3070 will actually be on par with 2080ti. This is getting interesting.
@exol5114 жыл бұрын
Its going to be basically as fast, if not on launch then soon after. Unless they managed to somehow hard gimp the 3070 ( in which case it wont sell and AMD has a chance)
@1snipoukos0074 жыл бұрын
@@exol511 they also said 3080 is twice as fast as 2080 ( even though they clarified at Linus review they meant in quake 2 and minecraft) so I wouldn't believe those graphs anymore
@maerus52274 жыл бұрын
Press x to doubt
@TheGamingNorwegian4 жыл бұрын
I dont see why it wouldnt, its very possible...
@1snipoukos0074 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamingNorwegian because their claims for the 3080 were not accurate of the real world performance, they focused instead on 2 games and they didn't specify it in their graphs. So I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies to the 3070 graphs. Find 1 or 2 games with favorable settings that achieves similar performance to 2080ti and show that.
@ipeter74724 жыл бұрын
Feels like a good time to wait for AMD then see what happens with pricing. I think we all need to wait.
@Vihara24 жыл бұрын
Unless you want a FE card, yes, wait, but frankly the resale on the FE cards in aus will be nuts, you could scalp them easily.
@orcbloodtech4224 жыл бұрын
Right, Just having the large list of Graphics cards and their averages at 1440p (the true sweet spot of gaming imo and what I have) across multiple games is what I was looking for. 15:46
@Juxtaposedjoker4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That's what I'm doing and hoping on x-mas sales for whatever I decide on.
@majora9194 жыл бұрын
nahhhhhhhhhh team rtx
@MrFahrenheit2k4 жыл бұрын
If you want to just game, definitely wait for AMD. If you need productivity, probably better grab a FE now.
@yonoexisto78334 жыл бұрын
24:00 very important info thank you i waited for this, while many other youtubers simply blah blah blah you were the only one or probably the first one to provide this data which is very important thank you for your excellent work thumb's up
@DawzeyJ4 жыл бұрын
Drink every time Steve says: “that said”
@christianhell78604 жыл бұрын
It works does the Job as well if you believe Paul from NAAF
@zloycock4 жыл бұрын
RIP
@johngamble52704 жыл бұрын
I CAN'T CONSUME THAT MUCH CAFFEINE!
@tengkualiff4 жыл бұрын
looks like im not going to work
@markwilson70134 жыл бұрын
@@tengkualiff Looks like I'm getting sacked from work 😅
@avartos11754 жыл бұрын
I love how you have lots of spatulas in the background like in Jensen's kitchen xD Do they come with every 3080 FE?
@lewis37744 жыл бұрын
If only... 😏
@scarlatradu4 жыл бұрын
good catch!
@markiangooley4 жыл бұрын
Spatula City!
@phillgizmo89344 жыл бұрын
none of them is green, does it answer your question?
@harpoon_bakery1624 жыл бұрын
He has those same spatulas in his Yacht kitchen
@gemstateboas81354 жыл бұрын
Running benchmarks doesn't take more talent than swapping parts. Interpreting the data on the other hand does and you did a great job at that. Well done with this review.
@konfinoyair4 жыл бұрын
This shows again how powerful the 1080 ti is
@SlayerSeraph4 жыл бұрын
How exactly? They talk about itup to 90% difference. Can you timestamp what you mean why 1080Ti is still considered powerful here? (I have this card)
@natieklopper4 жыл бұрын
Assorted Uploaded yup, me too
@Frostie36724 жыл бұрын
@Assorted Uploaded struggling, my 1080ti ain't struggling at all at the res I play at 1440p, 4k would be a different story though.
@CobrazHD4 жыл бұрын
@Assorted Uploaded user error then. i play at 1440p/165hz and i have i7 6900K@4.4 + 1080ti @ 2100/6150mhz and all games what i have tried runs with acceptable frame rates.
@konfinoyair4 жыл бұрын
@@SlayerSeraph It is up there at the top of every benchmark. If you don't care about rtx, like me, it's a phenomenal card.
@nerdtechgasm65024 жыл бұрын
1.9x perf/w? -> close to 1x perf/w. 2x faster BVH/RT cores?... Nicely done Jensen, could have been so much better with TSMC 7N. Great review though Steve, quite thorough!
@aquaticborealis48774 жыл бұрын
I watched AdoredTV yesterday and he ripped into this new design for the same reasons you are noting.
@xpk02284 жыл бұрын
well Jensen is a great salesman if not anything else, and salesmen are always good with their words
@Paddy-zn4oo4 жыл бұрын
nobody cares about BHVRT21848FS PERF WAT 1900. We just want 2x performance or riots.
@SilverforceX4 жыл бұрын
Well, at least this means RDNA 2 can have a chance. If NV went TSMC 7N they would have no chance in hell to catch up!
@octoman_games4 жыл бұрын
I believe Samsung chips are better quality than TSMC
@SkylarMelo4 жыл бұрын
I love that you include the Radeon VII and Vega 64, the latter being my current card. Its nice to see where they stack up in a majority Nvidia line up. Appreciate it!
@aidanconnerton37434 жыл бұрын
Clicked on yours first out of all the reviews.
@SteveAkaDarktimes4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great Review Steve! what gets me is how inconsistent the results are, really.
@Revener6664 жыл бұрын
Clearly shows how overpriced the 20series was/is .
@animaze80434 жыл бұрын
20 series was underwhelming and expensive. 30 series are power hogs, but at least not more expensive. 10 series was the last true bang for the buck without being power hogs. RDNA 2 will hopefully bring nVidia on their feet and release the Ti variants. Ampere so far seems a to be released prematurely on a less efficient process node, just to get ahead of AMD.
@NotScy4 жыл бұрын
@@animaze8043 yeh people forget that the card's pricing hasnt gone down in any way. Its just the performance per dollar cost is a shitload better than what the 2000 series offered
@XeqtrM14 жыл бұрын
I mean first gen of a new tech will always most that's how things work like first gen of smart tv was freaking expensive but now not so much so in 2 years you will probably say the same when the 4080 or 4090 comes out
@SteveChambersXP4 жыл бұрын
You haven't seen the true price yet hahaha. Wait till you can't get one
@fredEVOIX4 жыл бұрын
@@animaze8043 my msi 1080ti was already in the 297watts stock and slightly overclocked in the 320 watts..that said it's numbers I wouldnt see outside super intensive games this 3080 seems to have them often, at the same timein 1440p and 4k it gives +100% fps in most games over a 1080ti so +30-50watts for double the fps its a big improvement ! it's a good thing for me people will finally be forced to stop doing stupid things like using cpu air coolers above a 2x more watts GPU (because idiots like GN give bad advice based on the unrealistic scenario of an open test bench) or placing their AIO rad on top of the case where it gets the hottest air possible (bitwit proved it gave +10°C to the cpu in an old video andf Linus again said in the 3080 review it made your cpu temp +10°C)
@kingsnake5454 жыл бұрын
Sweet now I have to wait for the real release date in 4 months when the scalping and price gouging is over
@erichall0909094 жыл бұрын
At least big navi will be out by then to compare too
@dsayiasdad80994 жыл бұрын
@@shredderorokusaki3013 give your 970 a good send off
@wade83424 жыл бұрын
@@dsayiasdad8099 3.5 gun salute?
@joshashe20874 жыл бұрын
@@shredderorokusaki3013 I was using gtx 970 till march of this year but got impatient and bought 5700xt... now it feels like $380 wasted :(
@laukaskiemas49304 жыл бұрын
@@shredderorokusaki3013 30fps? Just get a console
@agent4seven8564 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jensen! Pascal friend here with 1080Ti. Thanks for saving me $699, bro! Much appreciated! I think my 1080Ti and I are just fine for at least 2 more years, unless RX 6000 will be amazingly good in terms of value + performance gains over my 1080Ti in 1440p.
@techbuildspcs4 жыл бұрын
I play at 240hz but I'll lower settings for now. I'll get this in a year or two or get a 2080ti for super cheap when the 3070 drops a bit later.
@ShimaS-00794 жыл бұрын
Yeah 1080ti owners are the real winners. 2080 was really huge let down. That's why I say 2080ti was real 2080 card. It's like Nvidia slotted the stack forward to get more money out of 20 series
@ntope0014 жыл бұрын
The 1080 ti will go down in history as the best gpu deal at the time!
@KevinBocky14 жыл бұрын
Same here,still got a 1080Ti , i expected more, think i will keep my 1080 for a few more years
@SlayerSeraph4 жыл бұрын
Why are you guys saying this? I also own a 1080 Ti, but this shows 90 to 100% performance boost in 4K in many games. That's basically doubles the FPS. Isn't it worth it? Still consider waiting for 3090 or waiting for 3080Ti but not sure if and when 3080Ti arrive...
@Regiampiero14 жыл бұрын
I like how you and Steve both have a cheeky spatula collection while covering this card.
@njclyne4 жыл бұрын
Scrolled through the comments section to see if anyone else noticed
@kianmoiny78604 жыл бұрын
You know what never disappoints? Hardware Unboxed
@modernlogix4 жыл бұрын
Loved it when Steve went after a 25 minutes talk, "RTX 3080 in a nutshell"
@MistxTube4 жыл бұрын
I love that cost per frame chart that shows different resolutions. Thank you!
@thebookkeeper35084 жыл бұрын
'Harbour unboxed...we have a boatload of stuff to go over" :_)
@St0RM334 жыл бұрын
Best review hands down!
@Maraksot784 жыл бұрын
LOL! Love the vase of spatulas!! XD Nice little Easter egg. Great work as always Steve, very appreciative of the work you put into these videos. Cheers bro.
@aliffsuhaimi14664 жыл бұрын
Bruh... You have a good eyes for noticing it. I totally missed it. You should go higher in the comment section and let others know about it. 😆
@riba22334 жыл бұрын
You know who I am watching first :)
@sayzars4 жыл бұрын
Gamers nexus lol
@GladinGAFloodGoFundMe4 жыл бұрын
Same! Love Harbor Unboxed!
@exeonx65614 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you put up the 980TI specs, I love how you mention people could be dissapointed with only a 30% boost over the 2080TI at a massive price reduction, while I'm upgrading from the 980TI and going to see a whopping 300% boost in some cases
@Dubnlove4 жыл бұрын
Impressed how well my 5700xt is doing ! Once again a great choice
@LaughterChief4 жыл бұрын
Im actually glad i went with the rx 5700xt gaming x. A beast for 1080p gaming. Amazing value.
@Dubnlove4 жыл бұрын
@@LaughterChief yeah I play at 1440p. I can't wait to see AMDs offerings
@LaughterChief4 жыл бұрын
@@Dubnlove amds software is like wine it gets better with time.
@Mr.Plutonium4 жыл бұрын
@@LaughterChief Specially considering that the CPU will be bottlenecked with a 3080 at 1080p.
@LaughterChief4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Plutonium with the current ones, yes. I mean if we're going for the the 5700xt then we would go for a similar range cpu like a 3700x or a 10600k. And amd is coming up with new cpus soon so that might work well with the rtx 3000.
@nagarajanvaidya92664 жыл бұрын
I'm soo conflicted: which Steve do I watch first? They're both so good at it
@Lishtenbird4 жыл бұрын
Globally, they both have ups and downs.
@Seanweekhaizhen4 жыл бұрын
Watched Steve Burke first
@ALaz5024 жыл бұрын
Watch both at the same time.
@paullasky68654 жыл бұрын
Can't stand the way gamers nexus mumbles along and doesn't pause for breath. It's brain damage
@halmyrach4 жыл бұрын
@@ALaz502 This is the way. 4.0 surround Steves hardware reviews
@thenuetrix65744 жыл бұрын
Good we're finally getting consistently good 4k gaming experience without needing to lower settings
@GANVedits4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the game really.
@salemgiath81504 жыл бұрын
Flight simulator: I’m gonna end this man’s whole career
@jaymuraleedharan4 жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive review of 3080. Nicely done!
@CarthagoMike4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to me is how the 1070 still manages to hold its own in pretty much all games at 1440p (certainly not 4k though) despite being just over 4 years old by now.
@accelerator55244 жыл бұрын
well, vega 56 is even faster than gtx 1070 while being cheaper at release
@M0nzaa4 жыл бұрын
@@accelerator5524 True, but Vega also arrived 14 months later...
@my9rides5hotgun4 жыл бұрын
It only holds it's own if you're speaking 1440p/60hz. At high refresh rates, it doesn't hold it's own.
@Orcawhale14 жыл бұрын
Well we havn't really seen that many demanding games be released these last couple of years. Also 65% of steam users are still using 1080p, so there's little incentive to create really demanding games.
@jablan_zvonko4 жыл бұрын
I still love my GTX 1070 too. I will change it in a year or two. I don't play that much intensive games on 1440p, mostly Rust, DayZ, GTA V and Deadmatter.
@justacasualgamer57744 жыл бұрын
The cooler actually are more impressive than the GPU itself, to think that it can make the 320w power hog cool and quiet, is mind boggling. And its beautiful~
@Talishar4 жыл бұрын
because power consumption isn't necessarily power wasted into heat. GN actually found that Ampere is a bit more efficient than Turing so the higher power consumption is tempered a bit with more efficiency which means less power is transformed into heat.
@HAHA.GoodMeme4 жыл бұрын
nvidia just jacked up the power draw...nothing really impressive about that, except the cooler like you stated.
@souljastation54634 жыл бұрын
yeah, the "flow trough" airflow is what I always use on my PC builds, they run cooler than if they were outside the case.
@sunnyn93924 жыл бұрын
@@HAHA.GoodMeme thats what u get with samsung 8nm!
@IchiroSakamoto4 жыл бұрын
@@Talishar All energy are dissipated as heat. 'Efficiency' means it has better performance per watt, doesn't mean the electrical energy it pulled magically disappears into higher dimension space. This is high school physics
@R-R074 жыл бұрын
thanks for including pascal ! awesome review !
@pastfutureart4 жыл бұрын
Consider me amazed that AMD really has a shot of being competitive with this gen.
@dg-cg5gi4 жыл бұрын
I honestly was not very impressed with the 3080 compared to the 2080ti.
@pastfutureart4 жыл бұрын
@@dg-cg5gi Same... 20-30% is nice, but not blowing the pants off of me. I think that's why they are going with the MSRP of $699 -- to make it more palatable to upgrade for all those with 1080ti. I am going to wait on what AMD presents next month then decide, personally.
@LiveType4 жыл бұрын
@@pastfutureart The 10% perf/watt improvement is actually pathetic. That's Intel levels of improvement.
@MLife19724 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the 980ti in your tables. I think most people looking to upgrade will be upgrading from 900 and 1000 series cards.
@Ichibuns4 жыл бұрын
@@dg-cg5gi I disagree. I think people aren't impressed because of the way Nvidia marketed the card. When compared to its previous counterparts, the 2080 and 1080, the performance gain is massive. I'm sure we will see a 3080 Ti next year, for a better comparison to the 2080 Ti. The actual performance was enough advertising and would've gave people more realistic expectation. Jensen really pushed his luck this time.
@Jamesified4 жыл бұрын
Wait can someone explain why the 2070 super cost per frame is so high compared to the 2070?
@luk24804 жыл бұрын
error, calculate yourself
@sh0gun12234 жыл бұрын
It seems like he divided the benchmark into $700 not $500. This is true for both the 1440 and 4k result. It seems like an odd oversight to use the 2080 super price point.
@darktrongaming66654 жыл бұрын
Finally done watching, that was a lot of work, thank you. I also noticed the spatulas in the back, it seems there's no RTX review/presentation without them :)
@kIDNEYKid-xt9uc4 жыл бұрын
I was refreshing like a mad lad, and i got you, kyle, paul, gn, jay, and greg. Time to up that watch time
@ca9inec0mic584 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that jay actually uploaded 2 mins before the embargo was lifted 😂
@Zinul4 жыл бұрын
@@ca9inec0mic58 yeaaaaah I was wondering why his came HELLA early
@Anthonyspartan5144 жыл бұрын
paul's testing was rubbish he did 1080p and 4k when he should of been testing 1440p and 4k plus dss and raytracing jay was more detailed
@kIDNEYKid-xt9uc4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthonyspartan514 oh well. I'll still watch it.
@Anthonyspartan5144 жыл бұрын
kIDNEYKid 1999 fair enough
@smokerg4l7624 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out how the data from the Digital Foundry video could be misleading a few weeks ago. It helped keep my expectations in check for the independent reviews.
@dralord13074 жыл бұрын
Its not a good idea to take "Special Sponsor" videos as true. Only he was given the 3080 early, only he was allowed to publish info. That should set off big warnings all over
@Avenjin4 жыл бұрын
did you even watch the video? hardware unboxed got about 70% faster performance on 4k, pretty much in line with digital foundry's results. DF shows a little better performance gains because he wasn't limited by a 3900x
@entropy75714 жыл бұрын
@@dralord1307 Even DF's own video didn't show the claimed 2x gain anywhere. All the reviews coming out now show pretty much what we expected
@dralord13074 жыл бұрын
@@entropy7571 His video couldnt show frame rates etc. Im just saying its never a good idea to trust Direct Sponsored content like that. Always wait for 3rd party reviews
@cheozuka4 жыл бұрын
Great in depth video as always. Thanks. Ps I'm loving the spatulas in the background. :) First time I noticed them.
@Sid-Cannon4 жыл бұрын
Nvidia cherry picking data, well I never ...
@stuartandrews43444 жыл бұрын
Doesn't surprise me...
@Deliverygirl4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who expected anything else was an idiot, imagine actually believing marketing slides of cherrypicked best case scenarios.
@leandrofod4 жыл бұрын
"Twice as fast". Yeah yeah..
@baldwinvp4 жыл бұрын
lol, anyone who didn’t expect this was a fool. To be fair, AMD does this as well. They all do. It’s marketing! We should all know better by now.
@get-in-2-get-out7744 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I mean, its fast, but its also almost 2 years later so... ~ +60%Performance, ~ +25% Power consumption. OK-ish ?
@JiffGaming4 жыл бұрын
I'm coming from a 980ti, can't wait to order tomorrow and experience this massive upgrade.
@rhomoreno25644 жыл бұрын
Same here just hope my 6700k won’t bottleneck it
@RobBomford4 жыл бұрын
@@rhomoreno2564It will bottleneck it at 4k if youre going for high refresh, at 1440p even more so
@andylopez63934 жыл бұрын
770 lol. I can’t wait
@atul441004 жыл бұрын
Same here. I will wait for and though before pulling the plug. Enjoy.
@prettysheddy4 жыл бұрын
IDK guys I would wait and at least see what AMD has to offer. The performance gain are great but not as much as Nvidia was boasting. Plus even though it more performance it is using a lot more power.
@evrettward89194 жыл бұрын
great detailed video as always! wattage usage, temps,1440p and 4k results and all the different games and cards tested could not have asked for a better 3080 review!!!
@SuperRichie3214 жыл бұрын
30 series is a great release that suffers a bit from extreme hype from nvidia
@singular94 жыл бұрын
It also suffers by sucking 100 watts more than the 20 series, and close to 200 watts more than the 10 series. Power should be going down, not up. Architecture is broken. Welcome to Fermi
@natieklopper4 жыл бұрын
Since when is that a new trend lol?
@joxplay24414 жыл бұрын
@@singular9 you probable are one of those Who waited for Vega
@singular94 жыл бұрын
@@joxplay2441 running 1080ti so I don't care
@jorgenascimento97104 жыл бұрын
@@joxplay2441 good job Nvidia troll go collect your points at Nvidia.
@rohitranjan41674 жыл бұрын
1 like is all I can do for your hardwork Great video , I don't see myself upgrading as my rtx 2080 still rocks as per my need,1440p/60
@craigdaurizio6864 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Harbor Boxed. If it weren't for you and channels like Hardware Unboxed, I don't how what I'd do for reliable benchmarks.
@snkmazda4 жыл бұрын
While a great card, this review has me waiting to see what AMD can offer.
@kurtcounty87034 жыл бұрын
@@ayyveezee2079 nah I think AMD is d.o.a and it will hurt consumers in the long run😩😩
@snkmazda4 жыл бұрын
@@kurtcounty8703 how will it hurt consumers to have competition in the market ? You on that 14nm+++++++++++++ Intel train ?
@kurtcounty87034 жыл бұрын
@@snkmazda no, everyone saw 20 series ridiculous inflated prices and next series release might be like the 20 series if there's no competition from AMD.
@snkmazda4 жыл бұрын
@@kurtcounty8703 oh I gotcha, your talking about nvidia.
@hypnoticlizard96934 жыл бұрын
The issue is it doesnt matter how powerful Radeon 6000 series is if the drivers dont work. This is coming from a 5700xt owner.
@thenuetrix65744 жыл бұрын
Finally I've been waiting for this
@DarkReturns14 жыл бұрын
Most in depth review on the internet. Well done Steve!
@bbqpat14 жыл бұрын
did he just full hand grab the cards pcb connectors :|
@Salty_Nutella4 жыл бұрын
that moment when the 1% low fps is challenging or higher than the last gen's average fps
@spicysweetness60954 жыл бұрын
lol
@dmitrypoletaev74784 жыл бұрын
@@spicysweetness6095 thought I've artifacts on my screen again because of your nickname
@emerestthisk9904 жыл бұрын
So Ampere in summary: - Low overclocking headroom - 8% performance per watt improvement - Massive power draw - 22% faster in 1440p (vs 2080 Ti) - Small gains in RT performance - Price is good compared to hugely overpriced Turing.
@igorfv4 жыл бұрын
Price is not good, it's just not as bad. We're still talking about 50% profit margin.
@gurjindersingh38434 жыл бұрын
1) 22% improvement over a card that cost 70% more 2) 55% improvement over 2080 at 1440p 3) 68% improvement over 2080 at 4K 4) Lowest Cost/Frame
@erikhendrickson594 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for all the hard work y'all! Reckon I'll be waiting to see Big Navi and/or a "3080 Refresh" type of card!
@AS-gb5wz4 жыл бұрын
Hardware unboxed is my first pick
@AliTweel4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 1080ti owner and I'm skipping this generation, will check the next one! thank you guys for the remarkable review.
@UchuNoko4 жыл бұрын
Why skip though?
@johannsmith56974 жыл бұрын
probably waiting for new display port standard
@Tugela604 жыл бұрын
It is twice as fast though.
@MrAwol0074 жыл бұрын
Jensan said it was safe now
@UchuNoko4 жыл бұрын
@@Tugela60 itll be a huge performance boost over my 2070 too tbh
@tomunterwegs12064 жыл бұрын
Watching the benchmarks here first before other channels, you guys rock, greetings from austria ;-)
@mcunner4 жыл бұрын
Harbour Unboxed, boat load of data... You're trying so hard to confuse KZbin AI 😂
@AlexanderXtcSlayin4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is the best review I’ve seen, no fancy or goofy runarounds like other channels, just straight facts. Thank you.
@earthtaurus55154 жыл бұрын
@23:58 thanks for this info and for the extremely indepth review.
@XBnPC4 жыл бұрын
5700 XT has been Simply Phenomenal Value and I can't wait to see what larger die size RDNA 2 GPUs bring to the table.
@amaurytoloza15114 жыл бұрын
Well, the dollar per frame of the 3080 is on par with the 5700xt at 1440p, and it's the value king at 4k. I honestly hope AMD comes with something good because the value of the 3070 will be insane too in a dollar per frame sense
@vcarter864 жыл бұрын
@@amaurytoloza1511 In every aspect i am happy to be an rx 5700 owner. Best dollar/frame value very good power consumption and the 5700xt faster just slightly while it hasnt got real advantage (it doesnt matter that 5700xt has 104fps in1440p gaming but 5700 has "only 92" your eyes cant see the diff) while xt has much more power consumption and a slightly worse dollar/frame value.
@jamestwosheep4 жыл бұрын
I like the bouquet of spatulas on the shelf in the background. That was a nice touch.
@kellyr8454 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great video with lots of info. Love that he has a chart with multiple generations of graphics cards and tiers within rather than just showing competing cards. It made the stats more relevant to me because I could compare it to my own system.
@mohsinopiani4 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of my 1080 Ti
@lehelzelenka2074 жыл бұрын
Got one recently. No regrets.
@TheCatfatherr4 жыл бұрын
we should wait 3080 ti version :)
@Patrick-S4 жыл бұрын
I'll keep mine for another generation probably :)
@bothellkenmore4 жыл бұрын
Watching all the graphs seeing 1080Ti neck n neck with 2070 S and 5700XT, those 3 are on my watch list for sub $350. No rush here.
@philipsk4 жыл бұрын
@Boris Erdogan still a good card .i have a 2080. Gonna keep it. CP 2077 has dlss 2.0 so it should run it nicely at 3440 x 1440.
@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster4 жыл бұрын
Just think of the level of preference when these games come out with updates for the 3080, I don't believe many games have been updated for it yet and I think even more preference is waiting ahead 😃.
@Cottentail3 жыл бұрын
I'm here to pump up the views, this channel needs it! It's paltry compared to a certain other channel that covers the same topic...
@errorclone34 жыл бұрын
The Benchmark Kings :D
@PreacherwithoutaPulpit4 жыл бұрын
I knew Steve would cover the increased price for the same position in the stack we used to get for $500. This card will end up 3rd or 4th from the top in performance when all is said and done, that's without AMD in the mix fingers crossed. I fully expect to see a Super and even Ti variants of this card. It's already been put out there that they're coming. So because of charging higher prices on the 20 series the 30 series looks like a great deal. Don't get me wrong the cards are truly powerful but instead of having a card at this level in the stack that we used to get for $500 we're now paying $700 plus. NVidia Marketing is genius and pulled off a ramp up in price that will have everyone thinking it's an amazing deal but is it really? I really, really hope AMD comes out swinging and competition drives these prices back down a bit and I'm not some rabid "Fan Boy". I'll buy whatever gives me the best performance for my money NVidia or AMD it doesn't matter to me but a fight between these two behemoths is what we need...
@arts38024 жыл бұрын
Yeah, AMD just needs to innovate with its graphics cards though, in my mind Nvidia has been the innovator in recent years, and especially now with RTX. Until AMD can come up with something that can compete Nvidia will get away with driving up the prices
@nikolaantic89434 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself even if I wanted to, good job mate
@Mythricia19884 жыл бұрын
I would not expect a Super version of these cards - the 20xx Super cards were released because the 20xx series was performing abysmally in the market, and was an attempt at luring 10xx series Ti owners into going to the new generation. This is why they compared the 30xx series to the 10xx series so heavily in their presentations - because this was the sticking point. There's no need for a dumbass Super version of the 30xx series cards - they actually deliver a meaningful upgrade for a great price, unlike the 20xx series. Not saying it definitely will not happen, but I would be legitimately very surprised if we saw Super versions of these cards. We definitely will see Ti cards though.
@OmarKhanUK4 жыл бұрын
Continually earning my subscription. Great work as always
@CarthagoMike4 жыл бұрын
I am so looking forward to the 3070.
@danielson_92114 жыл бұрын
I won't get the 3070 since it using ddr6 and 3080 using ddr6x, 460gbps vs 740gbps. I'll save up the other 200 bucks, more future proofing.
@bastordd4 жыл бұрын
@@danielson_9211 well Big Navi gonna have gddr6 is almost confirmed. So I think u don't wanna w8 for see only because of the memory
@praetor55724 жыл бұрын
Hardware Unboxed is light-years ahead any PC tech review channel, including LTT.
@hauitsme56784 жыл бұрын
My mother can do better than LTT, and she died over 30 years ago. LTT hasn't done any actual proper reviews in YEARS
@vesselinkrastev4 жыл бұрын
Quality content as always!
@retromastery70104 жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in seeing the 3070 performance honestly... the 3080 is their flagship card and there is a reason why they give these to reviewers first.
@tuna_65484 жыл бұрын
3090 is the flagship this time.
@KILLTHEREDDITOR4 жыл бұрын
@@tuna_6548 3090 is the same card but with more VRAM.
@Lollakuk4 жыл бұрын
@@tuna_6548 You know that Jensen himself called the 3080 the flagship right?
@Icureditwithmybrain4 жыл бұрын
@@KILLTHEREDDITOR Not the only difference...
@tuna_65484 жыл бұрын
@@KILLTHEREDDITOR more cores too
@efabiano824 жыл бұрын
Unless you're planning a 4K high refresh rate gaming setup, just keep your current 20 series cards.
@AlexAnteroLammikko4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the 20 series card I definitely own.......
@mkreku4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm keeping my 1080Ti.. this doesn't interest me at all, and I just can't see a mini version of a card that draws 300+ watts (I have an ITX build). My hope now lies with Big Navi
@Falcodrin4 жыл бұрын
@@mkreku An interesting idea would be if someone built a tiny waterblock for the FE that fits the short pcb. It would make it fit in your build
@avyaykhaire71874 жыл бұрын
@@mkreku if you don't give a shit to ray tracing, pascal owners, stay strong you have plenty of juice left.
@madac2194 жыл бұрын
I disagree the performance is still exceptional at 1440p if you have a high refresh rate monitor
@Silentfeety4 жыл бұрын
this was real honest review as always. Love to watch every video of you guys. Keep up!
@imadecoy.4 жыл бұрын
First channel to watch as always :)
@sspringss27274 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest surprise in this video is actually where the 5700xt sits in comparison to both ampere and turing.
@erikhendrickson593 жыл бұрын
AMD has just been Killin it lately.
@nahuelcutrera4 жыл бұрын
very well done review ! congratulations guys, excelent work !
@tobiasjo16574 жыл бұрын
24:38 to see Intel vs. AMD CPU with this card
@freelancerxxx4 жыл бұрын
Wov 4 % faster ...must go pay 300 pounds more for Intel 14 nm +++++++++++++++++++
@cr7vaibhav4 жыл бұрын
was that an overclocked 10900k
@ca9inec0mic584 жыл бұрын
@@oxfordsparky well looks like you really care about that 3%
@deyoviC4 жыл бұрын
@@cr7vaibhav Of course not. Stock so that they have the excuse to use AMD. But nobody questions that.
@cr7vaibhav4 жыл бұрын
@@ca9inec0mic58 for high refresh rate yes
@stevenni90524 жыл бұрын
Great staff, now I am just looking forward of what AMD is ganna offer.
@quetzo1264 жыл бұрын
bicycles.
@alphachad75564 жыл бұрын
Nice English Steve
@matt6978454 жыл бұрын
(A)nother (M)ajor (D)issapointment
@stevenni90524 жыл бұрын
Beside that the RTX 3080 seems have supply issue, it's really hard to find AIB cards that sells for MRRP here in UK, Most cards are around £700-850.
@e.e1214 жыл бұрын
@@alphachad7556 think he was trying an aussie accent matey
@Paramontana924 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for testing all this for us and reviewing the new card!
@scipionyx4 жыл бұрын
Steve and then Hardware Unbowed are the only ones you need to really see, the rest aren't as detailed as these 2 channels
@jamiebarber83624 жыл бұрын
Tech Jesus and Upside down Jesus FTW
@imadecoy.4 жыл бұрын
Just a 30% improvement in performance for a 25% increased power cost seems pretty lame, but at least the price is better.
@Moredakkamus4 жыл бұрын
That's burying the lead, 25% performance increase for 60% of the price is a BIG deal.
@Hajsu4 жыл бұрын
srly who cares.. if u can buy gpu for 700$ u should be able to pay little more for Watts. if u buy super car u should be able to buy more fuel and dont be lame and refuel that with LPG. if u buy nice house u should be able to keep it warm at winter and dont be sadistic to turn it off and stay under the 5 blankets. geez. what are we talking about..
@imadecoy.4 жыл бұрын
@@Moredakkamus The flagship card was usually $700. The 2080 Ti was the exception.
@imadecoy.4 жыл бұрын
@@Hajsu It's just not impressive architecturally. Added side effect of heating the hell out of whatever room it's in during hot summer months.
@lewis37744 жыл бұрын
Stop moaning, it’s a great card at a good price...
@Gixxer9834 жыл бұрын
You guys have hands down the best video and audio quality out of all the tech channels. Not to mention reliable information.
@cristianconstantin64964 жыл бұрын
So the 20 series was just an overpriced tech demo? 🌎 Always has been 🔫
@LasTCursE694 жыл бұрын
The 20 Series were the first generation of cards that offer RTX.. Every product no matter the market gets better with time (and usually cheaper)
@Asghaad4 жыл бұрын
@@LasTCursE69 20 series was a scam and RTX is still absolutely useless...
@dragonicbladex75744 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad far from useless now I think
@Asghaad4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonicbladex7574 still absolutely useless ... id rather bump up the resolution to get ACTUAL graphics improvement than turn useless "raytracing" on and tank the FPS to hell ...
@dragonicbladex75744 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad 4k is already kinda at our limit, a bump up to 8k isnt gonna do much, rtx relatively is a much bigger improvement than 4 to 8k would be. Also the fps is decent now with the 3080 at least