Nvidia Quadro RTX 8000 repair

[@AnIdiotAboard_]

In regards to the temps, you forgot something, these cards are intended for High Pressure Cases (for example a Server or Workstation Enclosure, where air flow rate and pressure are above ambiant increasing cooling capacity, that should should have air forced over the fins without the GPU fan even running. I got 2 of these cards, fit them in a desktop they are thermally limmited all day long, put them into a server and temps rarely pass 70c

[@northwestrepair]

Most likely

[@gheorghilassilviu]

I didn't know that, I learned something new today. I was about to comment that it's a $4000 GPU with a $2 copper cooling solution

[@teresashinkansen9402]

Unless they operate at several atmospheres of pressure above ambient the pressure increase caused by fans is insignificant not more than a 10mmHg with the most powerful fans.

[@kdrkdr1128]

You mean the heatsink is dogshit.

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Typical of blower cards. While this is beyond my 2080ti I had, I'm sure without the proper conditions, like my 2070tu, it sounds like a f'n helicopter. I hate blower cards.

[@AKGWolf]

Gotta say, this is one of the coolest looking quadros iv seen, but this repair might have been avoided if there was a backplate

[@johndonovan7018]

its an industrial card. those arent meant to be handled so no need for backplates.

[@AKGWolf]

@@johndonovan7018 well, yes and no, those do go in normal workstations and normal people buy them and do handle them. A backplate is also needed to dissipate heat from the memory

[@johndonovan7018]

@@AKGWolf doesnt matter. they arent designed for normal people. they arent sale restricted but they are designed for designated "professionals" to handle them. hence no backing plate. it is not a difficult concept to grasp is it

[@NotAnotherArtVideo]

@@johndonovan7018Not difficult at all. Why make a nicely built product when you can just convince people it's "professional" and cheap out on construction? Charge more, offer less. I also noticed you ignored the cooling. Evidently professionals only need a heatsink for half their memory. It's not an "industrial" card. An industrial component would have extra protection, not less.

[@greylock5985]

@@johndonovan7018 You would expect that on a high-end card they would decide to put a backplate on it for multiple reasons, including the aforementioned memory cooling. Also at the end of the day these things have to be installed by someone and mistakes happen, no matter how professional the person is.

[@Vile-Flesh]

Excellent video and very thorough repair. Real shame nvidia doesn't put back plates on these cards. I love the back plates some of my Titans have. I enjoyed this video and look forward to the next as always.

[@Techcensorshipbot]

Ever since I swapped to 3x BJ my life has improved dramatically. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@northwestrepair]

Lol 😆

[@teddp]

I can only say this, the owner is a very smart person sending you the card 😉

[@johnkost2514]

There is a passive version of the RTX 8000 in which they do have a backplate which protects the PCB and adds some heat dispersion. Same goes for the RTX 6000 and T40 passive versions.

[@JacksonPhixesPhones]

Great video brother! 1000% agree about the blower. I've saved so much in what I would've spent on canned air. They're great. Mine is 10,000 mAh, so I've only had to charge it two or three times in as many years. The battery pack can also be removed and used as a portable USB charger (and it can be used as a mini vacuum, but I haven't actually used it for that). It was about $40, they're definitely worth it if you have a repair business.

[@smokehead5318]

link?

[@northwestrepair]

It does not last nearly as long 😔

[@lemagreengreen]

Ooh that one has chrome, fancy. The Quadro tax apparently wasn't enough and it needed shiny! I had a Quadro RTX 4000 for a while, it was actually pretty fast and useful for a single slot card.

[@mono4171]

it performs like a 4060

[@lemagreengreen]

@@mono4171 Slower I would imagine, it was from the Turing gen. It was fine for what it is though and very slim.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

What were you running? I'm looking at an A4000 for vMix

[@Also_blius]

in my point of view, it was not boring at all ^^ i discovered a lot of thing and learn too from your video (as always ^^) and the research i made (thanks to you) have a nice day ^^

[@itbaggedurgf]

Just as Jensen would want, " The more you buy, the more you save!".

[@lQuadXl]

*This card makes my Quadro K6000 12GB jealous!* 😂 *Also, Quadro's run HOT, so use MSI Afterburner software and raise fan curve right up when benchmarking and gaming to keep cool!!* 😎

[@Q36BN]

Well, you could have wait and go with Quadro M6000 24GB version and have 24GB of vram back in 2016.

[@Schorch1962]

Nice repair 👍 Cards with this cooler design are loud and hot when under heavy load, they just need some undervolting with MSI Afterburner. Same with my Gigabyte RTX 2080 Ti Aorus Xtreme, it runs Xtreme hot and loud without undervolting, switching between full boost and thermal throttling so fast that some games had huge FPS-drops when it was throttling. With undervolting, it runs much cooler and never did thermal throttling again. It`s 4 years old now, running good and strong.

[@m8hackr60]

I guess you got a good price and purchased it just before the 30-series came out. The 2080 ti released almost 6 years ago. But you are correct, a little undervolting can really help in those situations.

[@Schorch1962]

@@m8hackr60 Got my 2080 Ti very short before the 30-series came out, and it was pretty expensive. Little big C ruled the world at this time. Purchased a complete PC to replace my other 2 PC`s that were destroyed by a huge water damage in my apartment. My household insurance saved me. Got an used 2nd 2080 Ti a few months ago for a very good price, a Zotac in black with 2 fans. Runs much cooler, has not that huge boost and is very quiet with moderate temps. The advantage of the 2080 Ti series is their awesome memory interface, making them really fast. Fast enough for 4K gaming at 60 FPS, more than good enough for me. Only "The Witcher 3" runs very bad after the huge update with raytracing. Some games reach far over 100 FPS when i let them run unlocked, but i let the GPU run at 60 FPS fixed. Works great for me, i`m 61 years old and can`t see or feel any difference to more FPS with my games. But a 4080 or 4070 Ti Super is on my wishlist, they have some more nice features i would use.

[@MrHyde-wv8wi]

My comment to show support and Appreciation for your Video is as follows. -Big Thumbs Up

[@malcontender6319]

Bot.

[@MrHyde-wv8wi]

@@malcontender6319 Not

[@vasudevmenon2496]

I thought for a second my mind skipped few years when it jumped to rtx 8000 Quadro. One of the best looking turing Quadro cards

[@markae0]

You got it working! Tell the customer it is heat throttling and if he has money suggest stuff to fix it

[@fleurdewin7958]

Just replace it with a good RTX 2080Ti cooler from a dead GPU and problem very likely solved. Cheapest fix for this kind of problem.

[@perhapsjames_]

I think the card runs hot because of the blower design. Also server fans handle most of the cooling.

[@fuzzydunlop7154]

I'm more surprised that people send you their $300 graphics cards to repair. This seems more worthwhile.

[@northwestrepair]

i am affordable

[@lachlanlau]

all card are worth saving 😊

[@fleurdewin7958]

@@lachlanlau Not an ancient GTX480 though.

[@dasiro]

still might be cheaper than buying that same card again.

[@brk932]

​@@fleurdewin7958 it makes an excellent heater during winter 😅. I used one for 8year

[@jiggilowjow]

its incredible how3 fast you diagnose this card. man seriously impressive to me

[@davidsmith4186]

Making your own hours, priceless! 👏🏻

[@Antitux]

I was running the Alphacool Eisblock ES Acetal RTX 2080/2080Ti M02 block on this card for a few years. It allows for rear power.

[@Eddie_Li]

Another amazing job!

[@finco7726]

Tony, you can double click on temps in GPUZ to switch also MAX measured values

[@Evilsizer82]

yea after a bit that thing seems to stay pegged at boost clocks or slightly above posted boost clock. Only reference i could find for the boost clock is on techpower up spec page, 1770mhz for the core. yet it is hitting 1800+ from what i can see, watching after burner. Now that i watched the end of the video, damn for 10k, it should come with much better cooler like on the gaming cards.

[@dejanmilosevic5310]

Thank you for this cool video, and yes i learned something new from it. I was confused why my rtx a5000 pcie4 and my rtx a4000 pcie 4 renders faster on my hp z640 workstation configuration which have only pcie 3 support than on my amd threadripper pcie 4 config. The answer would be because of the better thermal solution of hp. The cards are not throttling in the hp config.🍀

[@tomnicist]

If you put these dual slot RTX quadros in a good server chassis they'll get cooled even by the chassis fans at maximum loads, they're not designed to be used on a consumer chassis

[@SonnyHoood]

5:29 whats all those decrypt files? Did you get ransom'd?

[@SzakadekJOhn]

Hi! Is the heatsink contact surface flat enough? At 13:45 i see some "solder blob" (copper "ball") on the heatsink surface, may be those causing bad contact with the die in cooling point of view.

[@Luissebb]

The card had ptm7950 on the chip, not regular thermal paste.With a phase change material sheet you should drop at least 10°c on that card.

[@nickdarling5557]

Thermal pads for the hot spot spikes i would guess, maybe one missing or the existing ones deterated? I am in or of what you do. Keep up the good work.

[@Teste-gp7bm]

If GD2 has better temps than MX4, you shouldn't use it. Plenty of low quality thermal pastes are like that but won't last long before it dries out and becomes much worse. The issue with the vapor chamber is that the protrusion that contacts the chip is not very flat. You can clearly see this when you disassemble, as only the center is making good contact. So, there is a big delta to hotspotz which is probably the outside of the chip. If you had another type of contact plate, the paste would be much better spread all around. Only way to get around that will be to undervolt. Not much else to do as is but I agree that the heatsink is also quite small for this GPU 😮

[@cronos7509]

@ 15:19 @ 16:10 We see on the cooling part, a "thermal pad" on another "thermal pad". Top left. This could create an extra thickness, no?

[@northwestrepair]

pads are not to blame. if they were, either temp would be too high or delta on the core would be too high, Neither is the case.

[@cronos7509]

@@northwestrepair Ok thank you for the answer.

[@EDOD_EseDelOtroDia]

@@cronos7509 Actually that would explain pretty well why there seems to be a high pressure spot to the right. The top left lifts the cooler from afar and the edge of the gpu chip looks to be more saturated with paste on the left because there it couldn't squeeze. Also, that's one tiny chip not receiving the cooling it should by design. 😨

[@Rmm1722]

Good work 👍

[@ngrader]

"The Orange Hamburglar" is my vote for next funny name. Turbo Fax X3: "She'll take the chrome off a trailer hitch." 13:15

[@chumbawumba1959]

New drinking game, every time says “But, I don’t know …” … TAKE A SHOT. Love this guy! 😂😂😂

[@Kabodanki]

and another one with "who cares"

[@Reikion_]

This is a vapor chamber cooler and it is broken, you can see holes in it right where it contacts the GPU core

[@northwestrepair]

Possibly. I didnt see any hole but there was corrosion for sure. It may have a micro crack that i didnt see so yeah, you may be right.

[@Reikion_]

@@northwestrepair I had an rtx 3090 with same looking corrosion spots and it was overheating. I even tried liquid metal on it and it didn't help

[@flyguille]

A 50cents fuse will create power supply problems, remember that a fuse is a small path, that if over ampered will blow out, but also is a small path that is resistive for normal operation, so it is hard to protect low voltage high amperage circuits. You want to have fat wide tracks to driver the power supply.

[@flyguille]

Anyway, a duse will blow out AFTER all chips go short circuit first!, include if implements zener diodes to short circuit , chips will short circuit faster than 0.25w zener diodes, and zener diodes is one thing more than can go wrong by itself.

[@DanielCardei]

Trust me it was not boring. Not everyday you see a card like this on the table.

[@triggerhappypiglet]

"So that's a fine b.l.o.w.j.ob. right there." Coolest line ever! You made expedient work of that card. Watching you repair it, I had the feeling of witnessing an instance of ER surgery. Well done!

[@johntet]

This gpu looks like a prime specimen for ptm7950 "testing".

[@bsl_lsb2968]

3:02 bro at this point can you add a fuse? Like is it possible 😅 i am curious

[@Sam-K]

GD-2 is pretty much on par with Kryonaut Extreme which is kind of crazy since it cost peanuts. Even the cheaper GD-900 is superior to the good ol' MX-4, though its super runny, dries out quickly, and is susceptible to pump outs. With that said, its low viscosity also makes it great for keeping hot spot low. GD-2, on the other hand, is quite gummy in comparison. Overall, both are great pastes.

[@EDOD_EseDelOtroDia]

I noticed a layer of grease was still staining the surface on the cooler. Much like an oxydation layer, even if it's just a layer of burned old paste it could be acting as an insulator. The surface had to be rubbed with a slightly wet microfiber cloth

[@Suresh_Pillai]

Hi Tony, great repair work. This type of heatsink is used for this model of card is because its installed inside a workstation or a server chassis, which has high turbo cooling fans installed for forced cooling. So no point in having higher grade cooling solution for the GPU. Typically these are used in data centre solution workstation/ server environments. If we try to utilise this card in a normal PC, then it will kill it easily.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

My RTX 4090 while on 100% core load for my graphical applications only draws 180W, so that makes sense they underspecced the cooler

[@Elwsso]

can this x3 thing be used in cleaning and removing dust from heatsinks and PC in general ??

[@cyberhornthedragon]

i hate the squirrel cage blower types never seem to do well for cooling

[@malcontender6319]

Four thousand dollar card with a thirty dollar cooling solution.

[@Snarlacc]

What's the second PCI like connector for? SLI bridge?

[@Psav26]

it's an nvlink connector ,its like sli ,but way more fast ,and make 1 big virtual gpu and combine the vram into one big

[@Snarlacc]

@@Psav26 Thanks!

[@SirVellen]

Have you tried to use ptm7950 as thermal paste replacement?

[@jiggilowjow]

$4000 paper weight. yup learned a lot. i know the chamber on my 7900xtx lets it get way too hot. but this card here 48gb? theres no way that cooler or any thing ive ever seem besides water cooling that would work for that much heat

[@Moloch_Baal]

I'm glad the ram chip was easy to extract. We all know nvidia doesn't know how to make coolers, I still have nightmares with 2080ti glued cables.

[@WW-bt3tx]

A joe biden memory test, diabolical!

[@FR4M3Sharma]

No that's anti-semetic. 😂

[@yunodiewtf]

@@FR4M3Sharma Anti-schematic*

[@PhotoJohn80]

Trolling away…

[@kBitre]

There's a sea of TurboFan x3's on amazon which brand is this one, if that matters?

[@DonGeatschos]

Dammit, how do you do that, how do you change a ram chip without washing half the resistors around away along with it?

[@danielharrison1917]

Did you plug the fan back in? I don't think it was on the video footage?

[@northwestrepair]

am sure i have. look at the RPM

[@TheDeeGeeNL]

Yeah, as others said. The vapor chamber may be empty due a micro crack. That little corrosion spot didn't look healthy.

[@LRibeiroH9]

That subliminar message at 3:47…

[@northwestrepair]

Its better than having collored error screen all the time. Its my new capture card that does that. I could just make it black screen but i thought i take the advantage of the situation 😆

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@northwestrepair I think you should put the subscribe message to the screen with longer text. Something like "If you can see this text, it means that we don't have video for some reason. While I'm figuring this out, subscribe the channel."

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

You're incredible.

[@lecarrotman]

"coolers on this card are absolutely terrible 👍" 🤣🤣🤣 that thumbs up gets me 🤣

[@kikihun9726]

These cards meant to be inside a server or a case with direct fan blowing at it. the blower fan is just an 'air guide', not to cool the gpu.

[@richardedmondson9434]

This is the answer. These cards are supposed to be in a server case with multiple high static pressure fans. The heat sinks on the card are adequate for the intended use.

[@lemagreengreen]

These are workstation cards, they just run hot. Nvidia/PNY are fine with it, the cooler is just barely adequate. It was always a pretty crappy design IMO but it was just enough to keep it under 85C in most loads so I guess they figured it's fine.

[@huskkyy]

These are quadros, not tesla gpus which are designed for servers. Quadros are workstation GPUs designed to be in a desktop case. Where did you get the idea that the blower is a guide on quadros?

[@kikihun9726]

@@huskkyy in my school the cad-cam labor pc's( mostly hp but there are some dell ones) uses quadro gp100 gpu's. Every one of them has a high pressure fan on front aligned with the gpu to push as much air inside tha case as possible. And the cpu and gpu has air guide shrouds.

[@huskkyy]

@@kikihun9726 Integrated PC manufacturers typically do stuff like that regardless of what’s required. Since the blower is a centrifugal fan by forcing air into the side that faces the front panel of the case you’re working against the GPU fan. I’d be surprised if those fans are actually high static pressure in a workstation

[@tonict2302]

Awesome video

[@cjbell9622]

The only memory test that Joe Biden ever passed 😂

[@seirodor]

That vapor chamber cooler is busted on this thing, thats why the temperature climbs so fast. This is not normal behaviour.

[@ismakami]

And that's the reason I couldn't sleep when I had a Quadro. Always fearing something bad would happen to it because it lacked the backplate and a good thermal solution.

[@theroyalaustralian]

The Quadro RTX series was designed for Simulation, and editing.

[@georgesoros2260]

Could be any other reason for high temps apart from thermal paste/pads? Cause I have two RTX3080 Zotac, exactly the same GPUs. One burns like an oven while the other is fine on same tests, already changed the pads and paste and same results..

[@northwestrepair]

no there is none, unless the heatsink has failed which only happens to vapor chamber design. I kinda wonder if this is the case.

[@chosencode5881]

Yeah my A4000 workstation also has terrible thermals. Not sure why their workstations get so hot

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

Seems like a great card for machine learning

[@Danilodtm]

Can I put a 4090 chip on that board?

[@nicoernst5971]

Die you use the gaming or workstation drivers? Maybe the fan curves are different.

[@northwestrepair]

possibly

[@HexTheLegend]

1 word for the video: illuminating 1 word for the card: MESS

[@Shuttterbugg]

4000 card csnt get its own tdp on in stupid hot server rack...sad

[@johndonovan7018]

this card made me excited. in all the wrong ways

[@ChristopherWoods]

I always thought the point of Quadros is that they're prebinned to run workloads 24/7, and if you're buying a four grand card you're buying them from an OEM and you're definitely also buying the extended warranty 😅 I wonder if this was a second hand card that was run hard in an inadequately cooled workstation case and BERed during some maintenance because of accidental memory module damage. All our Quadros used in broadcast systems run in HEDT systems which live in HVAC-chilled apparatus rooms - and I'm glad of that because some workstation and server thermal designs are terrible 😂

[@fleurdewin7958]

Ppl pay thru their nose for Quadros, mainly for application certified drivers for professional use. Also, 48GB VRAM GeForce cards do not exists.

[@ChristopherWoods]

@@fleurdewin7958 tell me about it, we paid handsomely for Quadros for our VR and rendering work 🥵 partly because the software vendor only qualified Quadros for the workload despite 30 or 40 series cards being technically capable of the same tasks (though agreed on the 48 GB of memory). Massive price premium.

[@smokehead5318]

Do You have stl for Turbo Fan tubing?

[@northwestrepair]

No, its not my design. It was also bad design to some degree. It lacked standoff pins to limit the torque for screws on the back so i didnt feel comfortable installing it.

[@smokehead5318]

@@northwestrepair will design better one when I will get my blower, cheers Tony.

[@artratengo]

How can i make this my job? is it possible at 21 and in Romania? Could i become an apprentice at a repair shop or what kind of resume would i need

[@maklogetrich2378]

so this hotspot temperature, where exactly it's pointed to?

[@fleurdewin7958]

The core will report the hottest section of itself , they are not even because the logic part of the silicon will always be hotter than the memory controller and cache. "GPU temperature" reports the average temperature of the core.

[@maklogetrich2378]

@@fleurdewin7958 so all this time I was wrong, I think hotspot is overall average temps for vrm

[@RussianRainbow]

My poor old 1080 gets up to like 92C on some games lol, you'd think they would actually put good cooling on a card this expensive.

[@kevinerbs2778]

I think your cooler is broken then I've had that already on a dell blower cooler for a RTX 2080 ti. switched it out & temps went to normal.

[@danielharrison1917]

If it was plugged in did you test the fan was working?

[@MrRoccale]

It has a vapor chamber i know...

[@kevinerbs2778]

My Dell RTX 2080 ti's have that too. I've had one be broken to the point where it was terrible for cooling couldn't hold the card below 85C. I had third one where the card just up & died, So I switched the heatsinks. The cards thermals went right back to normal.

[@intoxicode]

best thermal pad companies?

[@lachlanlau]

where do you find the memory test application?

[@northwestrepair]

discord

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

These blower cards are known for being super hot, a water block would be the best bet for it. If there is one for it

[@dieselgeezer18]

with the stock fan cure yes. But with a custom one they run hella cool. I own a 1080 blower and on the stock fan curve it gets quite hot. With a custom one it runs cool like the other cards, but it gets quite loud

[@darkkingastos4369]

I wonder if there are any 2080 ti coolers that would fit this card?

[@illyaeater]

there are waterlbocks for quadro cards

[@KaraKaPleven]

I've learned that lesson in 2009 when my Nvidia gtx9800 pro has overcooked itself because of dusted TurboFan like that one in the video. That's why I'll never ever gonna get a card like that.

[@ChrisFaulkner]

What caused the ram chip to lose its lid?

[@r8dj]

nvidia prob should have spent more on the cooling solution than the chromed plastic

[@custume]

15:45 well they are to be inside a server case with room temp around 21Cº, with a lot of fans inside the server case at 7000RPM

[@fishman6377]

Great vid

[@stefan7231]

If that cooler design is anything like on a Vega 56/64, than it is a vapor chamber design with soldered aluminium fins on top of it. I've seen atleast a dozen Vega cards with overheating issues because, if they are vertically mounted, the solder between the vapor chamber and the fins slowly melts, collects on one side and the fins separate from the capor chamber.

[@theghostly36]

Can u make a vid about coil whine?

[@northwestrepair]

whats the point ? its perfectly normal

[@tigros999]

if you're talking about audio noise, set it up for SPDIF if at all possible, so glad i did that was driving me nuts!

[@AutieTortie]

Where did you get a Quadro for $4!?

[@v.9876]

No fuse because they know the consumer will buy a stronger model when it breaks after warranty, thats the impression i get with these newer generations. It was not long ago that most brands would have fuses.

[@xTriplexS]

He almost dropped his OF link on us xD 13:10

[@networkg]

I bet you repair GPUs in your sleep. But it is 3AM bro, go to sleep !

[@TheAtomoh]

And then he has nightmares about repairing AMD GPUs

[@RB-pc7tg]

What is the name or model of the pcie bench tester?

[@volentimeh]

It's custom made.

[@RB-pc7tg]

@@volentimeh yes I did see it’s off the shelf parts. Thanks

[@garyeast7259]

This is the type of card where u record everything u do. Customers in america can be really predatory. Oh it wasnt like that when i sent it.

[@blearmoon]

For some reason I love this kind of repair videos over my dinner. I am autistic ?? haha im joking i know i am

[@-eMpTy-]

😂

[@kentstansberry9748]

What's with the subliminal text.. LOL.😂 Dude, your hysterical.

[@Negiku]

That's a really low memory resistance. I would have probably thought it's a goner.

[@user-jr2ue9nu6y]

But can it run Crysis?