NY PRO PREDICTIONS | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck & Paul Lauzon | Bro Chat

NY PRO PREDICTIONS | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck & Paul Lauzon | Bro Chat #164
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[@MSHOnline]

Iain should join James at the next comic-con. James as Kratos and Iain as the main character of the Lego movie

[@Derek_Reynolds]

😂

[@guyhayman5751]

🤣🤣🤣

[@philnull]

I would say Iain as captain America, but he’s Canadian

[@brendenbiggers2182]

Bro 😂

[@MarkLePage]

Holy fuck hahahahaha.

[@phunned6007]

Shout out to Mike for keeping it real about Nicks physique

[@gonfishn1970]

Totally agree..everyone rides his nuts

[@travX1982]

I love Nick but yes Mike hit the nail on the head here kudos to Mike

[@fasttimes3518]

Just about to make this same comment. Someone had to say it

[@kyrouque9493]

Everyone already is real with Nick physique. It's just that people are over reacting about his shape when its really just the front poses. There is no issue whatsoever with his back and side shots.

[@jeremiahwhipple6826]

Mike hates cuz he never made it to the top nore close to

[@kendallt909]

I agree with Mike 100% on Nicks physique, and I'm glad someone finally had the balls to say it. I'm getting so tired of everyone making excuses for that blown out midsection and lack of legs from the front. Even "controlled", it looks terrible, and it shouldnt be the future of the sport.

[@scogotti7055]

Mike so real for the Nick take.. I don’t know why everybody so scared to say what we’re all thinking..

[@MHMHMHMHMHMHMHMH]

Agree, it’s getting annoying

[@loicdah3974]

For real!!!

[@beantown702]

Cause nick will block them 😱😱. Nick is a man child who switches coaches, companies, and women like undewear

[@williamrogers358]

Reverse turtle 😂

[@ojalajim]

0:03: 💉 Importance of optimizing health through blood work and hormone analysis at mer Health. 11:20: 💬 Discussion on the triviality of regulating adult interactions at Olympia event. 22:20: 💪 Critique on Hunter Derek's midsection post-guest posing, expressing faith in coach's adjustments. 32:36: 💪 Young bodybuilder shocks by winning Classic, transitioning from open bodybuilding, showcasing impressive physique. 43:02: 💪 Discussion on bodybuilders' conditioning and potential rankings at NY Pro show. 56:00: 💪 Debate on bodybuilding criteria: aesthetics vs. muscle mass in determining a great bodybuilder. 1:07:26: 💬 Discussion about selecting a competitor first, concerns about copying, and the need for a fair selection process. 1:18:38: 💬 Discussion on joining religions, Canadian bodybuilders ranking, and comparison of bodybuilders. 1:29:43: 💩 Discussion about bathroom habits, challenges, and discomfort in different settings. 1:40:57: 🚗 Debate on storing ketchup in pantry or fridge, influenced by restaurant practices and personal experiences. 1:51:04: 💪 Discussion on the impact of different factors on trust in fitness influencers, managing flare-ups in tile foot, and speculation on the muscle size of science lifters. 2:01:44: 💪 Importance of enjoying bodybuilding to sustain long-term dedication and success. 2:11:54: 💬 Discussion on the impact of consuming powdered carbs in liquid form versus solid form on digestion and nutrient absorption.

[@philipquist771]

You absolute legend

[@joed1033]

God sent 💪🏽

[@giulianoramirez9696]

Thank uou

[@benpowers5942]

Couldn't agree more with what Mike had to say about Nick and what the bodybuilding criteria should be.

[@Ikestyle1]

Facts as I said Nick ain’t winning the Olympia

[@zacharyshook3145]

Fucking love Mike! So glad he said all of that about Nick, I feel like so many people are afraid to say any negative about him. His quads are such a weak point of his and his stomach/waist is getting worse

[@phunned6007]

I just think his legs are really short and his torso is long so he looks weird

[@mattbudesa6351]

​​@@phunned6007I think a big part of it is he didn't really make improvements to his quads from the front at all. Did he get bigger? Obviously he did, but all the gains went up to his upper body and and waist. Which created an even bigger imbalance imo.

[@Kekou735]

From the back he’s close to unbeatable, side aswell (if the gut is in of course, which it usually is show day). Front looks horrible I agree. Way too big a disproportion between lower and upper.. his quads start to sweep so low.. all that contributes to very big imbalance and not pleasing to the eye at all.

[@Lift805]

Thank you Mike for saying what a lot of us fans feel

[@robertgabrielle5956]

What did he say???

[@Lift805]

@@robertgabrielle5956 when they were speaking on Nick and his midsection issues and more so in general about where the sport of bodybuilding is heading

[@oscarorozco2220]

@@robertgabrielle5956 I’m only halfway thru the pod but I’m basically Sherlock so I’d say he’s referencing Mike talking about nick’s midsection and waist. it was towards the end of their nick analysis

[@ZachBurg]

@@robertgabrielle5956he was just being a hater towards @NickWalker39

[@robertgabrielle5956]

@@oscarorozco2220 gotcha!

[@yashara2283]

Couldn’t agree more with Mike regarding Nick. About time finally someone said it

[@jasonpopp2026]

An time showed his take was absolute shit lol

[@yashara2283]

@@jasonpopp2026 not really. Yes Nick won, barely. It was a one point win over Martin and many agreed martin should have won. Regardless, that doesn't change what Mike said about Nick, his waist and structure are not pleasing.

[@PKOv]

Mike hit the nail on the head with nicks physique back and side are great but from the front he looks outta place

[@naturalolympia]

Thank you to Mike for speaking the truth about Nick's physique! The waist is too wide, period. "Reverse turtle" from the front was an accurate description. Fouad talks about Bodybuilding Criteria but part of that "criteria" includes symmetry, shape and beauty of the physique. It's NOT just about size and hardness. It's also not a scoring contest of who wins how many mandatory poses. There is more to Bodybuilding than just the mandatories. It's about the physique as a whole - symmetry, shape, size, conditioning.

[@wally7559]

100% agree with everything Mike said, and i know Paul , Fouad and Iain agree with him but they didn’t want to be harsh on Nick . I was beyond disappointed with Nick’s showing last week , legs don’t look like they belong in his body , his upper body looked so square due to the waist . It actually made me sad , I’m a huge Nicks fan

[@inactiveio]

Shout out Mike 56:30 finally someone kept it 1000%

[@mizterrii1334]

Iain looks like a grown up Dash from the Incredibles

[@Khanqest]

Yo real shit

[@jmorale7798]

Damn Mike with the hard truth. No BS, someone had the balls to say it lol

[@HVNTERTN]

From a fan’s perspective (never competed, I’m still small, all that jazz): Mike is pretty much spot on in his critique about Nick unfortunately. Even I, as just a fan, don’t ever leave comments about Nick’s waist because he’s still a top tier pro and his personality is awesome. He’s one of my favorites not only in the sport but on podcasts as well. I doubt he needs to hear about it from some random dude on the internet.. but.. It’s a glaring weakness. It’s quite literally the single first thing you notice about him as soon as he’s on stage. He hides it from the back and sides but you barely see anyone’s stomach from those shots anyway. It’s not even a Jay Cutler situation where he’s just a husky guy. Nick’s stomach is 100% distended coupled with just a wide waist measurement wise. It’s not going to get smaller with less food and water. He might be able to control it better on any given show but it’s not going to shrink. To be 100% honest I think it’s past the point of him controlling it. If there is ever a shot (picture or video) where you can see his stomach whether it be on stage, a candid or training.. it’s distended. It sucks to say but it’s just true.

[@sunsin8498]

I’ve been saying the same thing and yes it’s highly unfortunate because Nick is such a disciplined BB. I don’t think Nick will ever win the Olympia. He will always be a top tier but with the next generation coming up with far better physics he will slowly drop out of the limelight light.

[@evanswole]

Iain randomly bringing up the Olympics “issue” caught me so off guard 😂😂🤣🤣

[@kylotren6844]

Bro no bs he said it as I read this comment lol. I was like wtf and rewinded real quick 😂

[@eddiesaldana8921]

I was very irritated early in the podcast when they were reviewing the Pittsburgh guest posing and Iain was defending Nicks gut. But man was it so refreshing to hear Mike actually speak against it later in the show. Thank you Mike for not being afraid to go against the hype and receive backlash.

[@SmokeDogg91]

I know bro,licking Nicks 🍑 guy is pathetic,you know Walker is a blood relative of Steve Weinberger,that's why no one will dare criticise him.

[@i27v1]

I didn’t defend anything lol. I said it left more to be desired to me and that I think it’s getting wider and can be an issue, but that I also know there’s other factors that aren’t being controlled yet that will be on stage.

[@SmokeDogg91]

@@i27v1 So in your opinion his lower body and midsection have regressed ??

[@i27v1]

@@SmokeDogg91I don’t think his legs have regressed. I think they have improved a bit but not as much as his upper body so the flow of the physique hasn’t improved. I do think his waistline looks like it’s getting wider and could potentially be an issue, but we will see this Saturday in NY.

[@SmokeDogg91]

@@i27v1 Well said my bro, well said. Yea I guess we'll see this Saturday Iain.

[@chinmay6249]

If Iain dyes his hair red, he'll resemble Jimmy Neutron. The most jacked Jimmy Neutron.

[@Owen-C1997]

There is an episode of that show where Jimmy turns literally into a bodybuilder 😂 hes a super hero and turns into the hulk and gets roid rage all the time 😂 thats hilarious. Someone make a side by side with hulk jummy neutron and ian with his new hair lmao

[@allan521]

Well said Mike on Nick's physique. Waist is getting to wide and aesthetics should be close to number one on BB criteria!

[@magickreaper1]

i am in minute 22 and Paul already looks locked in for the prayer at the end

[@scottblankenship2773]

It’s sad how excited I get as a 36 year old man for a damn podcast.. this will help get me through the work day

[@SmokeDogg91]

Quit your job my bro,time is more important than money 💪

[@Brose_Canseco]

@@SmokeDogg91 doesn’t matter how much time you have when you’re poor from being unemployed lol

[@BENCHIPED]

Quit your job and go live in a van gold's Gym Venice parking lot. Train all day. You won't be the first to ever do that. Lol

[@chopst11x92]

Man I needed this one today boys, my pup passed 2 days ago and these pods really do a lot more for us than you’d think.

[@alexboehman3727]

Dogs > humans

[@BeefyBulgogi]

Sorry for your loss

[@Brose_Canseco]

RIP little guy. Dogs are the best

[@benjijoyce6376]

Sorry for your loss dude

[@Bec.Mackey]

Sorry for your loss.

[@magickreaper1]

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[@magickreaper1]

for anyone interested

[@FitGeek_Gaming]

Nerd! Lol I was going to post something similar lol

[@Brose_Canseco]

“Boys and girls are gonna fuck” -Paul How did no one crack up at this I’m dying lmao

[@aidenmayberry1]

Lmao

[@StoicMiles]

You guys make it seem like a week out a whole lot should change. You should already be ready by then and just be making minor tweaks so you can nail it on show days. Don’t hold your tongue on this. Derek is similar height, same with Hadi. They both keep their waist in control the entire time. Regardless of the coach that is the standard. Transitions matter, keeping it tight during posing practice matters, and keeping it in during a guest posing certainly matters. It’s the standard. Let’s not slip back and talk about this as if it’s the norm.

[@StoicMiles]

Also, I said this at the beginning of the podcast and this is in regards to everyone but Mike. He is not afraid of hurting feelings in this instance and that seems to be the reason why the rest are holding back.

[@Lift805]

1:18:36 - Paul noticing his cats fighting and hearing the cat scream lmao 😂 holy shit that was funny

[@denisofa2239]

Us viewers always appreciate the realness Mike! I think front shots are the first impressions, even to those new to the sport. Imagine if bodybuilders walked on stage backwards lmao. Yea if Nick downsized it’d be a better look I bet. I think I remember seeing somewhere even Jay Cutler said he preferred his look when he was competing in the low 250s, lighter than his later Olympias.

[@yousufibrahim884]

Iain has never once said anything about Nick’s weight being too much, but when Mike brings up the wait discussion, he starts agreeing all of a sudden 😅

[@jstreva12]

Damn Mike was spot on with the take on nicks physique

[@mattrobinson74]

Why’s Iain talking as if he’s hiding in the closet at 3am talking to his side chick? 😂

[@SenorSon]

Hearing them argue over Paul Dillet almost made me spit out my water. 😂😂

[@brunoschirmer]

Iain's audio quality is so good. Fouad should get everybody a pro mic.

[@JonathanKanevskiy]

He’s been working on that podcast voice too

[@luciusdomitius9377]

I like Mikes take on Nick. It is an honest critique of his physique.

[@langjunxin7874]

Looking forward to Paul's prayer at the end!

[@kjetilhammerseth5046]

"Dear leader.....uh it's been a slow week this week, you know. Weather has been nice, it's been nice to be outside in mild temperature these days..."

[@KLoso420]

I agree with mikes assessment of Nick 100%

[@lungamcetywa1011]

I just love how Mike tell things how they are 👊🏽

[@mickymarcanio7190]

Ian lookin like Johnny Bravo by the end of the year

[@christophermartinez-iq1ub]

It’s about time Fouad. Please we need this cast +Seth on a weekly basis! Love the content brother God bless.

[@datnip79]

He had Quint on Monday

[@anth2290]

If quint beats Nick they can kiss that friend ship goodbye

[@filiptomaszewski2205]

Mike doesn't talk much but when he does, he's spot on on Nick there.

[@miamidolphinsfan]

I'm with Mike on Walker.

[@MarcelDempers]

This new critical podcast-mode professional-voice ASMR Iain Valliere is hysterical, love it 🤣😁

[@philemondong9652]

Finally someone told the truth about Nick Walker's body...

[@stanvickery]

Nicolas Vullioud managed to reverse his waist and improve massively before he retired. But, he had to take a long while off, completely detrain and shrink down, then revamped every aspect of nutrition and training to get there. It can be done but j dont know how many pros are willing to do it

[@ash_classicphysique]

Iains hairpiece is looking delightful

[@hakunamatata4475]

1080p or 1440p make sense for analysing physiques

[@helopoty6601]

Thank you guys for this, i lost my cat today and this had me smiling and laughing, like it always does, for many people going through life. We appreciate you guys.

[@MKC999]

Sorry for your loss

[@Blake2703]

My day will be great now! Thanks to your podcast ❤

[@scottmuscles]

Thanks for the episode. Always a win when I see a new episode up and love the retired Bro Chat lineup!! Would love to hear another BB&B with James, Ben and Samson or Roman. Miss those guys!!!

[@kazimclarke588]

Mikes take on Nick at 1 hour in was 🎯🎯🎯

[@dasar108]

paul wants to be a rapper but can't freestyle up a prayer...smh

[@cross123ish]

I agree with Mike reference Nick….I see a Turtle…Nicks physique is not pretty, his body parts are great but when you put them together it’s not pleasing.

[@jackr5944]

Still my favorite podcast but Ian’s mic is too professional and kinda shifts the vibe a bit. It sounds less authentic and reminds me of all the other bs podcasts. Unique is better than sounding the same as every other podcast! Analogy would be all the actresses in LA getting facial surgery to remove their buccal fat and now they all look the damn same.

[@tobyhake819]

Yes Mike! Finally someone calls out Nick's physique exactly how it is

[@jerethoss811]

The fact that you guys tried to shy away from the point Mike was making about nick is crazy

[@nicholashammontree6653]

Also, you may have misunderstood the intent with the "science lifters" question. I took that as a criticism of science based lifting with jay and ronnie as examples of why its not be all end all.

[@joshuamelanson2811]

Nick doesn’t just lose the 3 front shots though, he places last in them out of the whole callout. We need to stop being wowed by big arms and hamstrings and start looking at the whole physique because in my opinion a guy like Martin has it all

[@LowTierFallout]

Criticism for Nick is 100% right on. But I do not understand the Martin praise that I’ve been hearing. His core genetics are atrocious-not the waist, but holy gosh the ab insertions look terrible and it will always throw me off. Very complete besides that.

[@michaelpyatt9086]

Mike has seriously leaned out.

[@TheRenomatic]

didn't nick try to play that downsize game at the arnold last year, and he end up losing. Remember, in the END, its what the judges say and right now, nick is winning shows

[@pramathanarayana867]

Nick's legs from the rear aren't just impressive because of his hamstrings and glutes. His quads from the back have an amazing sweep. He keeps his hips externally rotated and creates the x frame. His waist isn't bad from the back. Great back, great arms. It's astonishing how all that quad sweep disappears from the front. Waist looks blocky. The shortness of his legs compared to the length of his torso and upper body is also so much more obvious from the front. He looks nearly balanced from the back.

[@datnip79]

It’s how he poses that gives the sweep from behind. You can’t have no sweep up from and sweep from the back. How he angles the knee outward gives the appearance from the back he has sweep. He can also afford to do that because his adductors or so big as his legs can be far apart with a gap in between. Just my opinion

[@ricocutz]

56:08 Mike’s rant on Nick’s physique

[@TheKruxed]

1:00:30 damn, I usually disagree with Mike the most out of you guys but its strange to hear someone with a platform calling this much attention to it, the gut looks really bad inbetween shots and from the front. Obviously that will tighten up for the front double etc at the weekend, but the problems being seen are the weird love handle curves on the sides and the increasingly protruding gut and its a really poor look that should be punished as Mike says like a boxer thats been knocked down. Maybe its all for nothing if Nick brings it and he was just bloated, but its for sure approaching critical issue and will be interesting to see how Tyler Manion judges it at something like the O

[@travX1982]

Mike just said what everyone else is thinking but to scared to say

[@italianintheAF]

Mike hit the nail on the head with Nick’s physique. Completely agree

[@Zfredycastillo]

Dmd martin “If you were to call it what’s your top 5 New York pro prediction” nothing more nothing less and he blocked me 😂😂

[@undagroundmane9117]

Nick THE GUT

[@DrRachaelA]

Paul “what, you can’t do mushrooms?” 😂😂 Oh and I’ll sacrifice myself and say I also and not a huge fan of Nicks physique. Not like he isn’t impressive and fucking huge. I love Stu, Andrew, Martin has great shape. Of course Samson. Now we wait!

[@donquias903]

Props to mike for saying how he felt about Nick. That could upset a lot of people. I would say that the waist size plus the proportions between the legs and waist should basically prevent him from winning a show.

[@h_dub]

What’s the deal with other BBers pushing kratom these last few months? A bit strange

[@brenthickerson242]

Hey Fouad did you hear about Neckzilla’s sponsor apparently forcing him to do Dubai and go train at Oxygen? I guess that’s what he said on a podcast recently

[@AcAmanimations]

Fouad and Iain would smoke Dillet its true

[@victorcano8762]

1:00:16 Mike nailed it, exactly what I've been saying since day one he needs to downsize his upper body

[@webslinger793]

Yes, downsize his upper body and lose his only strength of being big and chase shape which he'll never get in this lifetime.

[@tataleona4306]

Like and comment for the algo so we get more 😁

[@rockycvs3]

Amen, Mike on the Walker opinion.

[@dylancanaan6049]

The egg debate is funny knowing that it was already discussed on a previous podcast and figured out the answer before 😂

[@anth2290]

Mike is absolutely right about Nick I was a massive fan of Him but his shape is getting worse imo. Also Paul dillet smashed clen like candy too

[@Timtimsson14]

Ian is such a savage on every pod! 🔥 Love when he takes shots at Fouad.. never stop Ian! /Fellow autist

[@hugostiglitz5798]

Who are these science based lifters that are "peacocking" according to Mike? Don't know of any

[@charbabyFNF]

Jeff Nippard and the followers

[@miamidolphinsfan]

This NY Pro is gonna be wild. 2nd through 6th could be anyone. I think Nick wins but Tonio 2nd, but thats just today...it could change tomorrow

[@reecepritchard3]

Iain sounds like Dr. Mike with that mic

[@prettyneatperformance]

Fouad knows just how to fix those mid week blues. 👍👍

[@aloeblack8853]

Mike saying everything about nick that everyone thinking

[@hustler2no]

Nick kinda blew out his mid section. I’ve been thinking that the whole year. I don’t think his abs will pop like when he won the Arnold

[@NTsklwjsnejx]

The only advantage I had from going strict science based training for last 2 years was my joint health. I've gotten smaller and weaker. It's largely because it's so damn boring and I can't keep the intensity.

[@edreshad]

Never been so early

[@martdag1950]

Best bodybuilding podcast out there! Fouad really has fantastic journalistic talent 👌👍

[@fredk6890]

Guys this fukn Ian mic … At 1:54:00 , who thinks Ian sounds like Mike Isratel ?

[@charbabyFNF]

I wondered what this meant until I heard it around 1:00:25 Mark. Totally agree!! I prefer previous no mic set up

[@SmokeDogg91]

Bubble gut Walker is about to be embarrassed in front of the whole bb community again 2 weeks in a row 😂😂😂

[@Ethan-xp9ho]

Looks better than you bro

[@Brose_Canseco]

@@Ethan-xp9ho that’s subjective lol. Don’t think 99% of the population wants to be, or wants to see a 5’7 dude that weighs 275 in a thong

[@Tom-V]

Andrew looked the best.

[@Tattoosbyikigai]

Perfect bday gift!! Love the podcast 🔥

[@lungamcetywa1011]

Happy birthday!

[@EchelonDon]

Happy BDay bro, mine was on May 12. AMAZIN!

[@Tattoosbyikigai]

@@EchelonDon happy belated my brother! Taurus gang 🤘🏼

[@Tattoosbyikigai]

@@lungamcetywa1011 appreciate it bro 🙏🏼

[@lungamcetywa1011]

@@Tattoosbyikigai I'm also Taurus 🙂🐂

[@kerryobrien71]

Mike is 100% correct about Nick

[@ryanchapa4899]

Wait a second Iain. Didn’t you say that when you were bodybuilding you shit 5/6 times a day? It’s probably from all the bacteria on your food because you’d leave it out on your counter lmao. 😂

[@Brose_Canseco]

Yeah I find that odd because I have the opposite problem when the meals go up.

[@jordankrych8747]

I have left so much food out on the skillet over night and have never gotten sick. Iron gut! Come on Fouad!

[@rstev8647]

Idk why i cracked up when pauls cat randomly meowed

[@kenzo-12345]

Iain was special on this one 😂 Like a child who ate too much Haribo and can’t help being a little 5hit!

[@i27v1]

😂

[@kenzo-12345]

@@i27v1 Honoured to be replied to 🤝

[@full.rom.fitness]

I like how Paul thinks black people can ‘rap’ and ‘dunk’ 😂

[@Basse7]

Thank god Mike’s says something about nick and his leg, about the way the guys forget to mention that Samson did beat him coz of his legs shrinks and with the wider stomach when you see nick Unfortunately for him you can see that the upper body is way bigger than the lower and the symmetry is gone For me he is on the way out and if he will start to get knocked out from the top 6 in the O I won’t be surprised

[@brianblack2244]

Stoked for this pod while i work. Thank you boys!

[@datnip79]

I’ve been saying this for months. Nicks lack of detail and separation in the front shots paired with the longer torso and short femurs was his knock before he was even injured. He didn’t do the Arnold because he wasn’t fully healed. So there is months and months of not being able to train legs properly. With him only being able to train upper body fully unfortunately it made his imbalances even further apart. No malice….just honest observation