How Mexican Americans became White

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NYTN

NYTN

10 ай бұрын

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This history transcends Hispanic heritage month! Explore the untold story of how Mexican Americans were unjustly segregated to a 'barn school' under the guise of 'sanitary and moral reasons. in Lemon Grove, California. Learn about the landmark legal battle that fought against this unjust separation, and the ripple effects it had on American identity and the classification of Mexicans as 'White.' Dive into a hidden chapter of American history that begs the question: Who gets to decide who is 'American' enough for an equal education?"
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@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
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@coreylevine8095
@coreylevine8095 10 ай бұрын
Next month will be 75 years Anniversary of Perez v Sharp case of 1948
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
the casta system would be really good to talk about@@joseluisnietoenriquez6122
@elisageorge2261
@elisageorge2261 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but why is it MANY these regular looking Mexicans in Texas are as racist and more racist towards black Americans than most white people I've met?! And I was told by some Mexicans that dark Mexicans and black Mexicans are discrimated against by regular looking Mexicans.. So I say it's no such thing as black Mexicans.. They're just black people... even could be Africans that wounded up in Mexico,and started speaking Mexican language..
@culturalobserver8721
@culturalobserver8721 4 ай бұрын
@@joseluisnietoenriquez6122 Even Spaniards can have very tanned skin color! My brother, an aunt and a sister all traveled to Spain (on separate trips), and after viewing hundreds of their photographs of the local Spaniards, I concluded that yes, some are fair, but many are light to medium olive tan skin, and actually some were even what I would call “dark”, and yes, they were Spanish natives, even the darker ones! Hey, I’m a Mexican American and I absolutely LOVE MY TANNED SKIN, even if others don’t! Who in the h*ll cares what some ignorant individuals think, they’re NOT God. MEXICANS ARE TANNED BROWN PEOPLE, AND THATS JUST FINE!! 😄
@chesvilgonzalezvilches8309
@chesvilgonzalezvilches8309 Ай бұрын
🇪🇸Por favor más seriedad con los españoles y dejad vuestra frustración racial para vosotros. ¿ qué cuento es ese de unos pocos son claro? España es un país de blancos caucásicos. Yo soy uno de ellos.
@Egr-et6ar
@Egr-et6ar 22 күн бұрын
“Drty” is ironic since MesoAmerica had better hygiene standards than Erope.
@a.r.tavares1322
@a.r.tavares1322 21 күн бұрын
True. In his diary, Columbus was amazed at how clean the "Indians" were and how they could bathe several times per day.
@MrFernanrc
@MrFernanrc 21 күн бұрын
disgust is a way of making sure your food doesn't harm you, you know what your body likes and thinks is safe and what is not, but then we end up using it for other purposes, like on people. It's a way of putting them down.
@MrFernanrc
@MrFernanrc 21 күн бұрын
@@a.r.tavares1322 i believe the diary is something they talk about but could be fake. I am sure he wrote alot , but he was jewish and so where everyone else in the boat, so the church didn't like him and most likely changed the story into him being italian. Look it up, jewish people write alot about columbus and nothing like what we heard. The catholics where not clean, the jews where and they wanted to be the opposite, so if you where clean, they would consider you a non christian. Kind of sick. when was this ? i am not sure because the pests must have caused them to change. Even when did operations, they didn't clean their hands and caused problems.
@MrStaybrown
@MrStaybrown 17 күн бұрын
The dirty beings are still Caucasians. Many of my white coworkers do not bathe and just use deodorant which results in a disgusting mix of strong body oder and deodorant and cologne. They're adamant that bathing is bad for you. Thank you to all people who are clean and bathed.
@XtraLongD
@XtraLongD 17 күн бұрын
Anahuac NOT "Mesoamerica" socalled america is named after amerigo vespucci an edomite "explorer"
@oliviapetrinidimonforte6640
@oliviapetrinidimonforte6640 10 ай бұрын
Mexican is not a race. There are white Mexicans, Indian Mexicans, black Mexicans, and Mexicans who are a mixture of all the preceding.
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
100%.
@sky-pv7ff
@sky-pv7ff 10 ай бұрын
The only true mexican are indigenous and Indigenous/ Spanish. Everyone else is just a citizen of Mexico. Mexico was already established before the foreigners came in.
@sky-pv7ff
@sky-pv7ff 10 ай бұрын
Everyone wants hispanics to be multiracial. No, the indigenous are the real people. Everyone else just a foreigner. Quite trying to change the racial identity of the indigenous in the America's. What race was there before the invaders and their baggage.
@Micah_Perez.Praise_Yah
@Micah_Perez.Praise_Yah 10 ай бұрын
No Hispanic and Latino is not a race, just a category for us indigenous people of Latin America. Being Mexican really pronounced mehsheeka is not just a race it's a bloodline of a tribe. Yeah, there are white,Asian, black, etc mixed mehsheeka people, but the bloodline and name belong to the mehsheeka people. So if you identify as mexican or part mexican connect to your indigenous roots. Erase that colonial state of mind. 🪶✊🏽
@strangecoasteroutdoors799
@strangecoasteroutdoors799 10 ай бұрын
My dad is mexican and when he did a dna test he was overwhelmingly Scottish/Spanish with a splash of native and black
@brandonmireles3249
@brandonmireles3249 20 күн бұрын
Most Mexicans are Mestizos, mixed with European and Indigenous ancestry.
@Egr-et6ar
@Egr-et6ar 19 күн бұрын
@@brandonmireles3249 No those are Spanirds. Spain is, clearly, far more of a mestizo nation (if that term is ever properly to be used) than is Mexico. (1) The Spanish people speak a totally borrowed language, a dialect or branch of Italo-Latin mixed with many thousands of Arabic words. Very few words of the indigenous Hispano-Iberic language remain in use. (2) The culture of Spain is a complex mixture of Latin-Italic, North African, Middle Eastern, Greek, Gitano (Gypsy), and other characteristics, with very few indigenous (pre-Roman) traits remaining, except among the Basques and Gallegos. (3) Racially, the modern Spaniard probably carries relatively few indigenous genes, the latter having been greatly overwhelmed by Carthaginian, Celtic, Latin-Roman, Germanic, Arab, Moorish, Berber, Jewish, black African, and Gitano intermixture.
@Egr-et6ar
@Egr-et6ar 19 күн бұрын
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM - Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
@TechieTard
@TechieTard 17 күн бұрын
@@Egr-et6arYes, the OP was 100% right which makes you 100% wrong.
@Egr-et6ar
@Egr-et6ar 17 күн бұрын
@@TechieTard Yes he would know more than the Historian, Anthropologist….. 😅
@XtraLongD
@XtraLongD 17 күн бұрын
No such thing as mixed you are the seed of your father thus you are what your father is
@BronzeSista
@BronzeSista 10 ай бұрын
The history of segregation against Mexicans is not widely known, yet for decades Mexicans and Mexican-Americans were not allowed to go to movie theaters unless they sat in the balcony and they were not allowed to enter swimming pools over the weekend while white people swam. They had to wait until Mondays “when the water was dirty and after we got in the pool they would take out the water and put new water in for the white children,” Mendez said. Public schools were also segregated. There were “whites only” schools and Mexican schools. In 1945 when the Mendez kids were rejected from enrolling in their community school, Gonzalo Mendez, Sylvia’s father, took the issue to court. Mendez v. Westminster became the first case in U.S. history to rule on desegregation, forcing schools in Orange County to integrate in 1947. The landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision that later ended legal segregation in all public schools nationwide used some of the arguments used in the Mendez case.
@user-sz2yc1tt6l
@user-sz2yc1tt6l 4 ай бұрын
That was white people and blacks back in the days
@antoniogutierrezjr7471
@antoniogutierrezjr7471 2 ай бұрын
Did u know before the. Anglos came to these states Mexicans. Where segregated from one another practically all the Mexican governors of California New Mexico etc where Spaniards born in the new world 🌎 California New Mexico. Etc they were wealthy and had all the political. Power where the natives and mestizos where underneath. There still was segregation even when these lands belonged to Mexico
@BronzeSista
@BronzeSista 2 ай бұрын
@@antoniogutierrezjr7471 Yes and the Indigenous Mexicans are still discriminated against in Mexico.
@user-sz2yc1tt6l
@user-sz2yc1tt6l Ай бұрын
@@jamesbond8348 ok first of all. Back in the days racial groups stayed with their own people's. Mexicans stayed with Mexicans and whites stayed with whites and blacks stayed with blacks in 50s 60s 70s 80s and further back. White people were not as racist towards Mexicans as they were towards black. And Mexicans and whites have a long history together going back before the Alamo. My Mexican grandfather's grandmother's mother was white Irish woman. My dea has black kids but I don't like them because they're black. White Mexicans and blaxicans don't get along because there is a racial issue . Just like some Mexicans and black Dominicans hate black Americans. I just hide it better in public
@jamesbond8348
@jamesbond8348 Ай бұрын
@@user-sz2yc1tt6l that was such nonsense KZbin ain’t even let that slide n keep it LMFAO
@jsandoval3226
@jsandoval3226 3 ай бұрын
Mexico is Native American land no different from Canada and the U.S. with all tribes sharing ancestry
@annalyman2616
@annalyman2616 21 күн бұрын
Yes!!!!!!!!!
@buckjohnnie2642
@buckjohnnie2642 20 күн бұрын
@@jsandoval3226 THANK YOU‼️. Also SOUTH AMERICA. WE ARE ALL NATIVE LAND. PERIOD‼️
@azothamenti3378
@azothamenti3378 20 күн бұрын
Yes
@IsPsychology-is4bv
@IsPsychology-is4bv 20 күн бұрын
American is American side
@edgeinscarride
@edgeinscarride 18 күн бұрын
and they lost the land in wars . Not to mention the amount of warring between tribes that happened pre-colonial contact .
@nikolausepp8093
@nikolausepp8093 18 күн бұрын
My Grandma was born in South Dakota. Her mom moved them to California after husband/dad died in the early 30s. My Grandma was 10 and didn't speak any English, she spoke only Plautdieutsch (a sort of/kind of German dialect). The public school refused to enroll her because she didn't speak English, so her mom enrolled her in the Seventh-Day Adventist school, which took her, but put her in the 1st Grade (she should've been 4th Grade), telling her through her older brother (he learned English in high school in South Dakota) that she would stay in the 1st Grade for the rest of her life until she learned English. These policies were pretty universal in treating everyone "different" with the same treatment.
@buckjohnnie2642
@buckjohnnie2642 16 күн бұрын
@@nikolausepp8093 Did the government abduct those German children from their home and family from all over South Dakota, and physically and mentally brutalize them for speaking their language.
@lorenzovonmatterhorn4756
@lorenzovonmatterhorn4756 15 күн бұрын
@@nikolausepp8093 true bit today it's so popular to be a victim. It's what's hot right now
@gazoontight
@gazoontight 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Please keep making these videos.
@theaquariancontrarian3316
@theaquariancontrarian3316 9 ай бұрын
My family is of Mexican decent and this explains why my grandfather's passport says "white" when he clearly was not.
@stephenborunda
@stephenborunda Ай бұрын
His US or Mexican passport? I’m assuming this is an older passport as most passports today don’t identify a race. Birth certificates more often do.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 Ай бұрын
We was White of Mediterranean-White ~ which Southern Europe
@stephenborunda
@stephenborunda Ай бұрын
@@colinchampollion4420 not impossible but more likely from Indigenous ancestry given the demographics of Mexico (70-90% of people are of mixed Indigenous descent).
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 Ай бұрын
@@stephenborunda other way around~ Iberian ancestry 🤣👌😘!
@stephenborunda
@stephenborunda Ай бұрын
@@colinchampollion4420 sure. Some Mexicans have Spanish ancestry hundreds of years ago. These people would be regarded as mixed-race or brown in most US spaces.
@KingAlexv
@KingAlexv 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video Thumbs up for you 👍🏻
@shadowscribbler6100
@shadowscribbler6100 10 ай бұрын
Not many people consider Mexican Americans white, though...
@johnnyflores5954
@johnnyflores5954 9 ай бұрын
Tell that, to a hole lott of self-hating, useful idiots. In the Mexican-American community, since trump became President, and starting talking sh1t, many chicanos, started deny their ethnically Mexican.
@robertrobles4028
@robertrobles4028 5 ай бұрын
It depends how light skinned they are, and if they have Caucasian features or not. There’s definitely white Mexicans, I know this because I’m one myself.
@timasuna1756
@timasuna1756 5 ай бұрын
​@@robertrobles4028Then you know most white Mexicans live in the North, and they stopped coming in large numbers over a decade ago. It's mostly people from Southern parts, who have more indigenous blood and features.
@polluter1986
@polluter1986 5 ай бұрын
Yeah well explain that to my racist coworker, he’s constantly trying to mess with people because they aren’t Mexican enough, calls them white.
@Ex_zod
@Ex_zod 4 ай бұрын
​@@robertrobles4028As a Mexican American, people in school first talk to me in Spanish because they think I look like a Mexican from my skin.
@clarin3318
@clarin3318 10 ай бұрын
I’m Mexican and brown in the summer. In the winter I’m a little lighter.😂
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 Ай бұрын
I am Mexican and I am golden-tanned-White. In the winter I'm winter White🤣
@willieross3745
@willieross3745 21 күн бұрын
​@colinchampollion4420 y'all love your oppressor. Want to be like him.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 21 күн бұрын
@willieross3745 your just jealous cuz I am a White Mexican
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 21 күн бұрын
@willieross3745 cuz I am like a Euro-Castizo ~ European blood-lines
@willieross3745
@willieross3745 21 күн бұрын
@@colinchampollion4420 jealous? If you only knew.
@fernsone
@fernsone 16 күн бұрын
My wife’s grandmother is a Bonila and was part of the lemon grove incident. They all grew up on olive street. Glad to see this incident doesn’t get erase from history.
@tomaspadilla8698
@tomaspadilla8698 13 күн бұрын
Nice grammar.
@silasrobertshaw8122
@silasrobertshaw8122 26 күн бұрын
To the creator, i think you missed a large piece of this story by not connecting it to the history of California, especially the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. The case didn't just involve CA law but also federal law and treaty law. When Mexico signed the treaty with the US to end the war, they knew how Africans and indigenous people were treated and did not want the Californios and other Mexican citizens to suffer the same fate. In the treaty they negotiated that those of Mexican ancestry needed to be treated as equal to whites, that the superior position of women in Mexican society be recognized, and the land rights as well. So when the Lemon Grove case came up, the ruling was directly affected by this, as the Mexican-American children by law and treaty were equal and needed to be treated as such. No segregation allowed. This is also why we have the census distinction of white-Hispanic and white- non Hispanic. The treaty is also why CA was one of the first states(maybe the first) where women got half in a divorce, because that was Mexican law before the war. Sadly only a handful of the most powerful families held on to their land after the gold rush. Most got swindled out of their land through malicious misrepresentation of Mexican era diseños. Mexican Americans definitely weren't treated equally, but got a fairer shake than other groups. I think this court case is also directly connected to the forced migration of a half a million Mexican-American citizens from the Southwest to Mexico in the 1930s.
@DEADIKATED
@DEADIKATED 21 күн бұрын
Interesting I never knew this. My Grandfather told Me when he got on the Bus to Basic Training in WW2 they got mad at him for going to the back of the bus and yelled at him to sit up front My Birth Certificate says Caucasian which I am clearly not. I don't know about census though as I don't recall participating in one.
@silasrobertshaw8122
@silasrobertshaw8122 21 күн бұрын
@@DEADIKATED I am 53 and haven't ever actually participated in the census. If you haven't ever participated directly, they use info from tax returns and whatnot to fill in places they don't have information for.
@DEADIKATED
@DEADIKATED 21 күн бұрын
@@silasrobertshaw8122 Ok Me Neither. I allegedly probably make Myself scarce bc I like My Privacy 😁
@elcalifornio3916
@elcalifornio3916 20 күн бұрын
@@silasrobertshaw8122 yeah that is right, my grandma was one of those people that were probably forced to move south in the 1930.
@vicchavez6570
@vicchavez6570 20 күн бұрын
It has to do with bloodlines not so much nationality. ​@DEADIKATED
@MelvinChicoGuevara
@MelvinChicoGuevara 20 күн бұрын
I didn't realize we "became white". Speaking for myself, I am and will always be Mexican/Mexica! Son of the indigenous.
@gregpettis1113
@gregpettis1113 17 күн бұрын
Live in denial. You are also Spanish
@theinterupter4963
@theinterupter4963 16 күн бұрын
I love this! Thank you for phrasing this correctly. Mom always made me self-aware of being Mexican. Not Chicana, Latina, or Hispanic!
@TrollBot.
@TrollBot. 16 күн бұрын
Same ❤✊🏾🇲🇽
@sanjsanj75
@sanjsanj75 16 күн бұрын
And Spaniards we're are both why do people Ignore that
@TrollBot.
@TrollBot. 16 күн бұрын
@@sanjsanj75 Because we are not in Spain anymore and most Mexicans are predominately Native/Indigenous. Also one was forced upon while the other was already here.
@LaDeLaO
@LaDeLaO 16 күн бұрын
Love this! You captured me w/Lola and kept me with the rest! Thank you!!
@surgezoom7079
@surgezoom7079 10 ай бұрын
Interesting... 🤔 Great video, you're doing awesome work! 👌
@Thomas_Oklahoma
@Thomas_Oklahoma 10 ай бұрын
I have 60% Native American DNA and 40% European, and yet much of American society and myself considers me to be Native American. Ironically I see so-called Mestizos or Latinos with probably 70% Native DNA, even full blood Indigenous folk, be called either Mestizo or Latino by the Latin American hierarchy/Spanish caste system, and even the American Government/society. To me, this forcing a Eurocentric terminology on to Brown People is deeply anti-Indigenous culture and identity, these are genocidal policies and mainstream mislabeling. I'm not telling anyone to label themselves Indigenous, I may encourage you, but you do as you please, but be aware of the genocidal history created by caste systems.
@bluetinsel7099
@bluetinsel7099 10 ай бұрын
Native American came to be known as descendants of Europeans born in the Americas if you go back through the definitions. So if a person has 70% or 40% native, it’s going by ethnicity which is a type of mix. Haplogroups which goes by mitochondrial DNA shows that many natives are Asians born in the Americas and mestizo is also a type of mix typically coming from Asian moms with European dads although some have European moms and Asian dads. The haplogroups that again go by the mitochondrial DNA which is the X from the mom that both female XX and male XY offspring carry, shows that haplogroups A,B,C,D,M,N and X are all Asian or Eurasian haplogroups and those also branch off of L3 which is the same lineage as the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans, and Canaanites etc. The Roman’s were also from those lineages, and the Roman’s from where Latin comes from which is also a root of the ROMANce languages including Spanish are where the natives who are descendants of Europeans born in the Americas come from. Again modern Native American is a type of mix and it’s similar to Mestizo. So haplogroups reflect what has been outlined. Also indigenous is not always interchangeable with native as it can also be status.
@Thomas_Oklahoma
@Thomas_Oklahoma 10 ай бұрын
@@bluetinsel7099 I have videos that easily dismantles you silly cultural vulture Eurocentric DNA fantasy 😂
@ou8r122
@ou8r122 10 ай бұрын
@@bluetinsel7099 Wow thank you! Cause most people will not understand this we are considered a master of the races. The American Negros are part of that Asian race please see the word Nagas. We are related to the Mexicans and the Spanish language is the old Tibetan language of Asians that became part of the Basa Spaniards languages. These people are always putting us in these boxes when we in fact we put them in boxes. The Americas was very diverse and advanced way before any European ever arrived here. They basically erased our history, languages, culture, artifacts, and civilizations. We have more than 2 thousands pyramids in the Americas. We are Amerindians Toltec and all of the Pacific Islanders and Aboriginals are our Kinsmen. We date back the the CTE era. These channels are nothing more than gaslighting.
@mariagaganta4925
@mariagaganta4925 10 ай бұрын
Caste System. ? What is
@bluetinsel7099
@bluetinsel7099 10 ай бұрын
@@mariagaganta4925 The caste system was used in many places, but is well known in India as well as parts of the Americas. It shows depictions of how to obtain racial whiteness or becoming a better class based on whitening which in Latin America was known as blanquimiento. The Wht-Europeans wanted to Whitewash the places they colonized. It is known in India as well where there was a class system and the dark Indians were considered less desirable than the white ones and it still continues today, bleaching is very popular in parts of Asia and has spread around the world including places like South Africa where the Indian population is very high and it’s has spread to the Americas. In the 1800’s European were brought to the Americas in large numbers to help with the blanquimiento (whitening) of the Americas after slavery began to go down. During slavery many women were gRaped as a way to create more slaves and lessen the melanin in the Americas. So you can go over more on your own, but that is some of what the caste system is and there were depictions to go with it.
@dreamlit8500
@dreamlit8500 28 күн бұрын
Your content is great!! I am starting to watch a lot more of it
@Gabe13g
@Gabe13g 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Great job 👏
@kingdang855
@kingdang855 11 күн бұрын
Great content
@Self-helper415
@Self-helper415 9 ай бұрын
Interesting how the 1930’s wasn’t really all that long ago. Thanks for sharing this history lesson.
@Hustler1856
@Hustler1856 15 күн бұрын
I'm America Chicano. My mother was born in Mexico, and my father is lipan Apache from McAllen TX, I'm always amazed about how so-called mexican Americans segregated us half breeds and it’s still happening to this day. No one talks about that segregation.
@cruzgomes5660
@cruzgomes5660 9 күн бұрын
What has been your experience?
@NoeFlores-hw1np
@NoeFlores-hw1np 15 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤ much love from San Diego California
@hcalo
@hcalo 4 ай бұрын
Mexico is an American country (North America), so technically they are Americans
@bucvet1979
@bucvet1979 19 күн бұрын
I worked administration in the Army I had 100's of Mexicans in my Battalion and EVERYONE of them had White on their birth certificate as their race.
@akeemthegreat1700
@akeemthegreat1700 19 күн бұрын
They are White and assimilate with white culture in America
@Tepaneca
@Tepaneca 16 күн бұрын
That European shlt was forced on us. To confuse us and strip us of our real identity. It’s not like a newborn can pick his ethnicity lol
@ignaciovarga3162
@ignaciovarga3162 13 күн бұрын
White Americans need to strip our connection and ties to the land by all means necessary! If they call us Natives, Indians or Americans then we belong here and we can claim owner ship of these American lands. If they call us Caucasian, White or Anglo then that takes away any right or connection we have to these precious lands that they so dearly covet. We are the descendant of the greatest Native American society that was developed on the greatest contents of this planet. They are stripping all of this away from us and at the same time they are claiming and naming themselves as the righteous owners ordained by god of these precious lands that are the Mexikah Nations homelands. Remember these lands are now the eropeans country. But they will NEVER be there homelands!
@lGraytheferalcat
@lGraytheferalcat 24 күн бұрын
Also northern Mexicans should start treating indigenous Mexicans better
@scarx9151
@scarx9151 21 күн бұрын
We do, we are tolerant, but like everyone we are closet racist, we just keep quiet outside.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 21 күн бұрын
@lGraytheferalcat the kettle told the pot your black! The USA needs to treat all reservations Indians a lot better😘☺️👌!
@lGraytheferalcat
@lGraytheferalcat 21 күн бұрын
@@colinchampollion4420 the US is money making machine they don’t care for anybody I’m more concerned with how other countries treat their own😘
@Erik-ct6ug
@Erik-ct6ug 20 күн бұрын
​@@colinchampollion4420what about indians from Mexico?? Treat them like crap???
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 20 күн бұрын
@@Erik-ct6ug sooo do the Americans treat their Indians hienously & lock them in reservation centers 😟👌! ! !
@nebur59
@nebur59 17 күн бұрын
I know and have heard a lot of about this history and while my grandparents legally immigrated to SO CA in 1925 I don’t consider myself a victim. I think dwelling on this gives people a victim mentality.
@michaelcheli5842
@michaelcheli5842 13 күн бұрын
Very interesting and well presented. Thank you for sharing.
@nytn
@nytn 13 күн бұрын
So nice of you
@ramonarellano4988
@ramonarellano4988 22 күн бұрын
Instead of "Americanization" , it should be called Europenization.
@ntl5983
@ntl5983 21 күн бұрын
Anglicisation.
@Egr-et6ar
@Egr-et6ar 20 күн бұрын
@@ntl5983 Same thing as Spniardnization - although somewhat have different ideologies, both uphold the same whyte suprėmåcy ideology at the end of the day.
@buckjohnnie2642
@buckjohnnie2642 20 күн бұрын
@@ramonarellano4988 EXACTLY!! Good one!
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 16 күн бұрын
They speak spanish thats the country that conquered most of south america parts of north.. Poland didnt invade the americas
@ramonarellano4988
@ramonarellano4988 16 күн бұрын
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 , the Anglos are not Americans, no white people is native to this Continent ,
@MsMaureen1975
@MsMaureen1975 10 ай бұрын
This made me sad for many reasons, but the fact that a ten year old had to testify to prove he was worthy of receiving an education is insane. And a ten year old being a representative for anyone but himself is awful.
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. My oldest is 9 years old and I kept tearing up while reading about this.
@lisalenore76
@lisalenore76 10 ай бұрын
​@nytn So I take it.. you hate white people? I've seen several of your videos and it's all about whiteness.
@lisalenore76
@lisalenore76 10 ай бұрын
​@nytn I'm curious when are you gonna make videos about other races history and the atrocities they did?
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
This is a history channel and I’ve been exploring the legal definition of white in America and how it has changed over time. These are court cases available to the public to look at. I’m curious about it, but it doesn’t mean you have to be.
@lisalenore76
@lisalenore76 10 ай бұрын
@nytn I find these things interesting as well. And I find it interesting how the term "whiteness" or being "white" has changed throughout history. One very interesting thing I found was how there were jewish people here in the states from the very beginning who has always been considered white and accepted by the first white settlers and were never segregated yet the Irish catholics were
@Tizoc999
@Tizoc999 18 күн бұрын
Brilliant!!! Keep up the good work!!❤
@dannysarango7696
@dannysarango7696 3 ай бұрын
great job
@culturalobserver8721
@culturalobserver8721 4 ай бұрын
I’m 3rd generation Mexican American and since I was a child in the 1960’s, I’ve never thought of myself or others whose ethnic origins are from Mexico, as “white” because the definition of “white” is: peoples from northern, central (which includes Spain) and Eastern Europe who do NOT have any mixture of indigenous Latin American tribes in their genetics. I definitely do have indigenous genetics in my dna and I would NOT consider myself “white”. The vast majority of people who have any ancestors from Mexico have at least “some” indigenous blood, and that is just a FACT. And, it’s A-OK to have indigenous dna, to individuals who ONLY want to emphasize the “Spanish”! To not include the indigenous genetics is to buy into an old racist attitude that a Mexican American must be “ashamed” of the non Spanish part of him/her. That’s a bunch of BS! Get a backbone, people!!
@mightychild1057
@mightychild1057 16 күн бұрын
See he a real one,any Latin person, putting white or black before Latino,has already lost,even Mexican American no such thing,your either Chicano or proud American,cause ain't no English in Mexico,most don't speak Spanish here,and if there is white Latinos,why they can't easily get to,Arizona,New Mexico, California,Oregon,the whole west was there's at one point,why they people not letting them come across a border to the same land thats there's?see what I'm talking about,your one thing in this life,can't be 2 different things and be accepted,jus denied on both sides💯💯💯,if they weren't they would be like Canada,no one stopping them being from Minnesota never even seen them try,whole different story for them brown folk south tho!.
@f.l.mproductions928
@f.l.mproductions928 15 күн бұрын
​@mightychild1057 lol what is a Latino ? I don't care about the "white" part, but what do you mean putting black before black ? The difference is that most of the so called "black people" don't choose our ethic/race from the language that we speak. So if a "black" person who speaks whatever language, they are going to know who they really are first. But Spanish speaking people that are not of Spain, really love putting themselves as Spaniard people, it like they hate who they really are, and really wants to be white Spaniards. Spanish is not even y'all real language. FBA people speaks on the fact on how Europeans stripped us of our true language's but Spanish speaking people love it
@isaacortiz738
@isaacortiz738 15 күн бұрын
When the wife and I took my mother-in-law to Spain she didn’t understand why there so many “Mexican.” I must emphasize she is the least racist person you will ever meet, but her upbringing caused to view anyone with a darker shade of skin than her as not White; therefore her confusion. The sad thing is a lot of White Americans have been raised like. Italian Americans only recently became White because of politics.
@ignaciovarga3162
@ignaciovarga3162 13 күн бұрын
White Americans need to strip our connection and ties to the land by all means necessary! If they call us Natives, Indians or Americans then we belong here and we can claim owner ship of these American lands. If they call us Caucasian, White or Anglo then that takes away any right or connection we have to these precious lands that they so dearly covet. We are the descendant of the greatest Native American society that was developed on the greatest contents of this planet. They are stripping all of this away from us and at the same time they are claiming and naming themselves as the righteous owners ordained by god of these precious lands that are the Mexikah Nations homelands. Remember these lands are now the eropeans country. But they will NEVER be there homelands!
@ddrid854
@ddrid854 3 ай бұрын
I am italian and being called " white" to me is an insult after all the racism and discrimination italians suffered.
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 Ай бұрын
I think Italians were considered "white-ethnics" back then. IE they were white but not "WASP" white. Plus, yes Italians were abused back then, along with Irish. v_v But you might be considered Latino, though. I know one older Mexican-American man, in his 70s, that regards Italians and Italian-Americans as Latino but not Hispanic.
@WepWip
@WepWip Ай бұрын
I'm white and that is what I said white is pure ideology. Also not even Irish people were consider white. White was used for "classy people"
@bencrow1298
@bencrow1298 21 күн бұрын
You're easily insulted.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 20 күн бұрын
​@ragingjaguarknight86 he is right if Itay had conquered Mexico abd South America then we would be Italic & NOT Hispanic
@tainobloodwarrior
@tainobloodwarrior 20 күн бұрын
​@@ragingjaguarknight86 siciliana got it the worse
@carcucov
@carcucov 15 күн бұрын
Very interesting video.
@carolwoodward6141
@carolwoodward6141 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you Carol ☺️
@sr2291
@sr2291 15 күн бұрын
Best comment!
@lGraytheferalcat
@lGraytheferalcat 24 күн бұрын
We have worst racism and classism in Mexico.They actually have maids with their own room and they can’t eat in the dining room they are exploited and discriminated
@jesssmalls6623
@jesssmalls6623 21 күн бұрын
Yes yes, I've seen what you're explaining here sadly. Just so happens most maids are indigenous 🤨
@lGraytheferalcat
@lGraytheferalcat 21 күн бұрын
@@jesssmalls6623 Yes my mother tells me horror stories as well as positive I wish she had more experience so she can write a book but she only did it for 15 years
@tainobloodwarrior
@tainobloodwarrior 20 күн бұрын
That's terrible 😢
@sierra5713
@sierra5713 18 күн бұрын
And all the actors of television are white not brown, and when they do put a a brown Mexican they give them a low role.
@slowmojo9355
@slowmojo9355 17 күн бұрын
Well for starters maid is a job description, they get paid for it nobody is forcing them to do a job if they don't like it 🤦🏽‍♂️
@Da_Gabz
@Da_Gabz 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Always looking for more history on being Mexican American in CA.
@richardjsanchez81
@richardjsanchez81 19 күн бұрын
My Mexican American Grandparents went to school in Texas in the 1940s and 50s. If a teacher heard the kids speaking Spanish at all to anyone including each other the kids would get paddled as a punishment and made fun of. Because of that my Grandma never taught her kids Spanish and didn’t want them to learn it so they would not go through what she did as a kid.
@debbiegonzales2347
@debbiegonzales2347 18 күн бұрын
This is true. My parents didn't want us to go thru this either in the 60's. We were born in 50's with very American names. ❤Mostly American actors and actresses. When we went to school we did witness kids who spoke Spanish being paddled by mainly white teachers. My parents didn't teach us Spanish. Even our last names were pronounced differently and spelled differently. So they sounded very American English. We were told to go back to our Country. Not to speak Spanish. Sit in the back of the room. Learn how to speak English because this is America. There were no bilingual teachers,police officers,etc. My sister came home one day and was taking a bath. She was using a scrub brush and cleanser to to clean herself. She rubbed her skin raw. They told her that she was dirty because of the color of her skin. That she was a dirty Mexican. That only white people can come to school. So she tried to wash her skin white. Back then everyone stayed within their own ethnicity groups. Because of the prejudice. There were a lot of rules that our parents had us follow and curfews. It was really bad back then for all minorities. Always be proud of who you are and where you come from. Don't lose or give up your cultural heritage for anyone.
@slowmojo9355
@slowmojo9355 17 күн бұрын
​@@debbiegonzales2347well i wish i could meet some of this old whit3 rac1st 👊🏼
@Flametree1492
@Flametree1492 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, your historical research is very much appreciated by this person. Just a note, I've been re-searching "our" hidden history since 2005 when I took the first of 4 DNA test divulging to me that I was not "Spanish" the way we were raised! I actually have only 20% Spanish, I have more Portuguese than Spanish DNA with also 24% African and 19% native American/Taino DNA both of these I knew nothing about. All this was a total surprise, but I also learned, I found a birth certificate or documentation that my father's ancestry from 1620. My mother is mostly NA and African with about 30% Portuguese. What I'm getting at aren't most Mexicans have a very high NA percentage and now I know that many so called "Hispanics" have high % of African and NA DNA. Personally, I do not use the word "Hispanic" as basically my father's people are 300+ years removed from Europe, and I figured out where the Portugueses came from and that another story for another day!
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
What a great journey you are on! I loved reading this☺️
@davidmontez9902
@davidmontez9902 7 күн бұрын
Glad, and happy to know that your percentage shows DNA your true bloodline.. However, the outcome it may fold they writen evidance that may solve some hidden truth about your true ancestors. But if you are a believer God will remove the veil and your holy spirit will guid you to the Truth.. God Bless you to your journey.
@theaquariancontrarian3316
@theaquariancontrarian3316 9 ай бұрын
Just noticed the synthesizers in the background. What kind of music do you make? 🤔
@nytn
@nytn 9 ай бұрын
My husband makes a lot of digital music!
@boyboyphx
@boyboyphx 15 күн бұрын
I found the video to be very interesting, especially since I am Mexican-American (born in Oregon, my parents are from Arizona and Texas) and I have family who grew up and still live in Lemon Grove. But to be objective, there may be another factor contributing to why we may be considered white. I found this topic interesting when I read my birth certificate, which had “white” listed as the race of both of my parents, who are both Mexican-American. Upon researching it further, I learned that the reason for this may be based on anthropology and not necessarily by race, heritage, genealogy, or culture. “Race is a socially defined aspect of identity that often incorporates biological characteristics such as skin pigmentation or facial features”. Although the government may consider us as white, the government also differentiates between Hispanic and non-Hispanic Whites. I also learned that features inherited from generation to generation are expressed in the morphology (shape) of the human skull. This is what I found while searching for skull types on the internet: “Forensic anthropologists examine the morphology of the skull in great detail and take measurements of multiple individual facets. Comparing this data with data from the worldwide population allows anthropologists to conclude where in the world an individual’s family has originated from. Individuals of European descent tend to have long narrow faces with fairly flat facial profiles and sharply angled nasal bones. Those of Asian ancestry have wider and shorter faces with prominent cheekbones while individuals of African descent have a wide nasal cavity and a prominent mouth region when viewed in profile”. Native Americans have the Asian skull type. Given the fact that Mexicans, or mestizos (culturally Mexican) are a mix of indigenous and Spanish people, we tend to have the Caucasian skull type, which stands to reason since we are neither Asian nor African in anthropological terms. I'm certain that there may be other factors that contribute to the topic as well, I'll need to do some more research on the topic.
@marioluquin6380
@marioluquin6380 Ай бұрын
As I child in the 80's- 2000, in California we went through English only laws. And later with ESL,kids were steered toward esl classes because They would be happier and more proficient in Spanish in the future. In Texas, ESL students score lower, than those going to regular classes Is it hidden discrimination?
@humbertogonzalez7505
@humbertogonzalez7505 10 ай бұрын
Well back in the 70’s, I was in the 3rd grade in a public school in the east side of Los Angeles. I remember we had some kind of student exchange program with kids from a mostly white school. So the first semester I stayed at my school while some of our students went to that other school and some of their students came to our school. With the exception of one Asian kid, they were all white. That Asian kid was super academically gifted. He also was the only kid to get into a fight which happened to be with another kid from his school. He was a real nice kid so I don’t think he started the fight. I got to go to the other school for the second semester.
@doctorwhodj
@doctorwhodj 16 күн бұрын
I lived in lemon grove 2020-2022 its a nice quiet cozy diverse place now.
@frankmartinez4856
@frankmartinez4856 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for this History lesson 🤗 my Mother, born in San Pedro, Cal. 1926! Now 97! Live by Palm Springs! Their school was across the railroad tracks 😬
@vatricegeorge
@vatricegeorge 10 ай бұрын
Lemon Grove is part of San Diego county its always been a working clas neighborhood, definitely not one of San Diegos upper middle class neighborhoods. Mexicans have been considered white on paper in california during the drafts, they also were considered white in prisons.
@dinkster1729
@dinkster1729 10 ай бұрын
Interesting how flexible it is to be considered "white" in the U.S. The white population that spoke English obviously considered themselves to be above their Mexican neighbours though and wanted the Mexican children taught in a separate facility.
@makeyyyy7890
@makeyyyy7890 10 ай бұрын
Great history lessons. Can do a video of you interview your husband about his Hispanic heritage and what kind of history his families when through
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
Im going to ask him and see:D
@noroy2
@noroy2 13 күн бұрын
I am Mexican, 6'3" white, brown eyes, my middle brother was super white with blue eyes and my younger brother was green eyes. We are from Spanish and native descent.
@mikecon6395
@mikecon6395 17 күн бұрын
Wow❤😮 beautiful narrator hello ....
@somomoslatinosperro7672
@somomoslatinosperro7672 23 күн бұрын
I’m Mexican. I’m not white.. I have indigenous roots and I would claim that.. not white and never would be.
@ignaciovarga3162
@ignaciovarga3162 13 күн бұрын
They have a conundrum here with us Mexicans. If they call us Natives, Indians or Americans then we belong here and we can claim owner ship of these American lands. If they call us Caucasian, White or Anglo then that takes away any right or connection we have to these precious lands that they so dearly covet. We are the descendant of the greatest Native American society that was developed on the greatest contents of this planet. They are stripping all of this away from us.
@davidmontez9902
@davidmontez9902 7 күн бұрын
@@ignaciovarga3162 History brainwashes, the truth on books of who you are. seek your true identy research your ancestors comune with your acestors,elders they are your history and books fallow and see your bloodline to the begining why you are here in the americas.
@vblake530530
@vblake530530 10 ай бұрын
I know about this. I don’t know if I can finish it. It never ceases to amaze me how human beings can find ways to dehumanize other Human Beings. What The Absolute Fk?!
@margaretcaldarone3545
@margaretcaldarone3545 10 ай бұрын
They Do It Because Their Need to Feel Superior. Still Upset Because they Lost the War, still living in The past.( over 2 hundred years) Such Sickness Makes me Very Leary of Human Beings and Their Thought Patterns. I Belong to the White race, they make me Hang My Head in Shame. If God Created Us All. Then How Does Mortal Man Assume they Can Destroy his Works. Certainly not Christian. Insulting Gods Creations. For this Attitude Im sure God May Reject them at those Pearly Gates.
@silods3S
@silods3S 21 күн бұрын
Been teaching this... It's in the history books
@danielcarrillo2611
@danielcarrillo2611 13 күн бұрын
Lemon Grove, San Diego?
@japeri171
@japeri171 10 ай бұрын
The most intriguing thing about this story is the fact that there are Mexicans of various ethnicities (white, black, indigenous, Asian).The people who made this classification wanted to put different groups together and put them in the same box.
@bluetinsel7099
@bluetinsel7099 10 ай бұрын
Asian is an ethnicity and ethnicities are types of mixes and indigenous is a status. There are black, white and mixed and just as their are different types of white, there are also different types of black. The mixed were known as Arab or Arab-Mamzer depending on the mix. If the dad mixed with a different nation from his own then that child would be known as Arab-Mamzer if a woman of a nation mixed with a different nation of man from her own then her child would be Arab as Arab means mixed, but mamzer means illegitimate. The Illegitimacy comes from the child being a different nation than the dad and illegitimate in his nation. Nations go by the mom and tribes by the dad. Haplogroups go by mitochondrial DNA and that is the X chromosome each person carries from their mom. Tribes come under nations. Also native came to be known as descendants of Europeans born in the Americas. Mestizo is a type of mix typically of Asian moms and European dads. Roman’s who were Latin were Eurasian later some became Greco-Roman as there were those of Asian moms and European dads and others with European moms and Asian dads . The Roman’s were occupiers of Hebrew lands. Prior to Italy they were in Greece and prior to that Eurasia with many being from Asia. Haplogroups A,B,C,D,M,N, and X are all Asian or European and the branch off of L3 which is the same lineage as the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans, Canaanites etc. from Genesis 10 with Ham and his wife. Also Japheth was occupying the land of Shem from Genesis 9:27 and Shem and his wife are the lineage of the Hebrews which is also where the Israelites are from. So nations go by the mom and tribes by the dad. Tribes come under nations just as Israelites are originally Hebrew with the exception of those who produced mamzer children that would be illegitimate.
@thesteelecrusader7778
@thesteelecrusader7778 9 ай бұрын
Too be fair most Mexicans are pretty much mixed
@joaquinflores3547
@joaquinflores3547 9 ай бұрын
you forgot to say that most Mexicans are mixed race
@culturalobserver8721
@culturalobserver8721 4 ай бұрын
@@bluetinsel7099Asian is NOT a particular “ethnicity”, it’s merely a general “racial” category.
@bluetinsel7099
@bluetinsel7099 4 ай бұрын
@@culturalobserver8721 Asian is not a race, it’s a type of mix and a location so that could be ethnicity. Also Asians would descend from the same line of family and maternally they descend from L3 haplogroup which is a Hamitic line although there are some Japhethic branches as Ham and Japheth’s lines mixed. Haplogroups M and N descend from L3 by the way. So they may have taken different migration routes, but their dna still shows that Asians are types of Hamitic mixes which would make them ethnicities and not race.
@cjc2
@cjc2 9 ай бұрын
The majority of Mexicans are mixed European and indigenous. Many are straight up white, descendants of European immigrants just like the US. Many are indigenous still preserving their traditional way of life. There was a also a African community in Veracruz. I visited Spain, specifically the Basque region and Barcelona, many years ago and noticed many appeared very fair and similar to French or English. The southern Spanish of Andalusia looked more olive with possible North African/Moorish ancestry. This is fascinating stuff.
@adrianvizcaya8078
@adrianvizcaya8078 2 ай бұрын
My father's family from his father's side is from Basque country. His mother was full indigenous of Mayan origin from the state of Oaxaca. My mother's family is mixed as well as her family has Sephardic Jew, Portugues, French and Welsh ancestry. Both my parents were born in Mexico, My Father in Mexico City and My Mother in Guadalajara. I always tell people I am Mestizo since I am 46% indigenous and 34 % European decent, dabbled with some Jewish, Moroccan and Angolan ancestry. My family comes in every shade of color as some look white and others look more towards Black/Arab. Mexicans come in every shade of color and ancestry because the Spanish were more willing to marry different ethnicities as long as they converted to Catholicism.
@fherlinn
@fherlinn Ай бұрын
Spain is a diverse country. Spain is a nation made up of 12 countries and 5 regions more or less. They are all different. People from Catalonia and Northern Spain are basically "White" people. Urban Spaniards have some significant mixture from Latin-America. It's not uncommon for Spaniards to have Native-American ancestry as many Spanish men and women marry Latin Americans; and castizos & mestizos are not really considered to be another "race". Southern Spaniards have Greek, North African, Roma, Jewish, Arab ancestry and Native Americans from Latin America have also traveled there. Spain has the largest Native American population outside of the Americas.
@gew2027
@gew2027 Ай бұрын
Emblem of the Americas 1798 ​@@fherlinn
@stephenborunda
@stephenborunda Ай бұрын
Appearances really vary as 70-90% of Mexicans have some Indigenous ancestry. Obviously with those numbers you’ll get people of all shades from white to dark brown. The people of purely European descent are definitely a minority however.
@orzotubephi9328
@orzotubephi9328 Ай бұрын
@@fherlinn To be precise, that's the case in the last 25 years, and olny due to mass immigration. 40 years ago, Spain was quite homogeneous. You would seldom see people from other ethnic groups even in the cities (Gypsies being the visible exception, but a small minority anyway). Of course, many Latin Americans have Spaniards in their ascendancy, but it's not the case the other way around.
@jessieitown6026
@jessieitown6026 12 күн бұрын
I love History ❤
@robhtp3817
@robhtp3817 15 күн бұрын
Very informative, thanks. You’ve got a new subscriber here. I’m 3rd generation American of Mexican descent (AOMD). Have you done a story of how the U.S. Schools swatted the Spanish language out of the homes and AOMD children for the next generations? This is what happens to my family in El Paso & Los Angeles. I also met someone yrs ago who stated the same happened to their family’s in AZ. Just wondering if you’d done a story about this?
@nytn
@nytn 15 күн бұрын
welcome! no but I did do a video on the deportation of americans with Mexican heritage during the great depression! I'll look into what you shared, thank you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKDUnKdomcerpqs
@robhtp3817
@robhtp3817 15 күн бұрын
@@nytn great, thanks for the other vid. Good evening ~ Rob
@307cavalier5
@307cavalier5 13 күн бұрын
Interesting. My family was from Mora Valley. After the Hidalgo treaty, they fought a bunch of skirmish battles in and around NM, San Luis valley in Colorado, and after they went to Wyoming for concrete and railroad work. According to my grandpa no one started speaking English till about 1940 so his age group.
@OllieMissouri-is6ei
@OllieMissouri-is6ei 10 ай бұрын
Do Hawaiians. They had land; once upon a time.
@esmeraldagarcia2848
@esmeraldagarcia2848 18 күн бұрын
As a Mexican I would NEVER say I’m white even though I’m light skinned but many people from Jalisco are light skinned however, that doesn’t make us Caucasian.
@gregpettis1113
@gregpettis1113 16 күн бұрын
@@esmeraldagarcia2848 you got something against white people?
@jjones9822
@jjones9822 15 күн бұрын
Well according to the women in this video, you are now Caucasian. It’s funny too because when I close my eyes and listen to her talk she sounds like a blonde sorority girl. I guess she’s white now.🤷‍♂️
@jcs5707
@jcs5707 14 күн бұрын
Drama🤣
@xenos975
@xenos975 14 күн бұрын
lack of melanin really does mean Caucasian mongrelization of melanin
@jdjperez
@jdjperez 14 күн бұрын
As a light skin “guero” Mexican, unless you are pure indigenous like Zapotec, Mixteca, Cora, etc, your race is Caucasian. Whether you feel it or not, your genes say you are Caucasian just like me. Own up to your Caucasian race and be proud of your American and Mexican culture like my children.
@michaelpierce3264
@michaelpierce3264 10 ай бұрын
interesting as always! Know all you need is a blue Marvin! or a grey mini
@michaelcheli5842
@michaelcheli5842 13 күн бұрын
Recomended Read; Eldorado, Adventures In The Path Of Empire, a book by Bayard Taylor, published in 1850. Bayard Taylor was a coorespondant of the New York Tribune, and the book consists of his rewritten dispatches to his paper when he traveled to California at the time. Great historical accounts of what was happening at that time.
@TitanicTubi
@TitanicTubi 10 ай бұрын
Thats odd ive never thought of Mexicans as being white unless there Spaniards.
@user-ox8in4ot7p
@user-ox8in4ot7p 10 ай бұрын
Even Spaniards wouldn’t accept a Mexican even if he did claim white on paper and that’s facts
@l.m.d.4084
@l.m.d.4084 10 ай бұрын
That's because they're not White. This entire channel is an anti-White hub to degrade and lie about White people. The amount of scientific, genetic, and historical lies are off the charts.
@danboyisdopex9864
@danboyisdopex9864 2 ай бұрын
Mexicans aren't a race most are mestizos mixed of mainly Spanish and native while others are pure Spanish or other European ancestry and so forth.
@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia
@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia 10 ай бұрын
My friends that were of Mexican heritage, American born lived in my neighborhood. Two families on my street that could speak only English. I don’t know if their parents could speak anything except English. I lived in Galveston, Texas.
@margaretcaldarone3545
@margaretcaldarone3545 10 ай бұрын
Galveston has a History. Thats where Freedom was Established.Two years Later. June 10 was always Celebrated. They were still using Slaves that were Free, but were Still Slaves to them.( I am sure they never received back Pay.) Did you know about the Alamo. Settlers Fought against Mexico for theIr Profits.NOT TAXES AS SCHOOL BOOKS TELL US. Mexico had established Freedom from Slavery. The New Texans Wanted Slavery. They Needed it for Profit, to work their New Land. In School we learned it was because of Taxes.( If only we could get our system to tell us truth, instead of covering up Their Atrocities.) We should have remained Mexican. Their Taxes are much Better than Ours.They Killed the Mexican President Because of His Stand on Slavery. Texas is full of PREDJUICE. Thats one reason I will never live there again. Full of Sick People.Their Politians atr Mindless.
@ou8r122
@ou8r122 10 ай бұрын
Spanish is just a colonizing language just like English and French. Very few Mexicans speak or keep their native Aboriginal tongues. Mexicans of third and fourth generation speak English as a first and only language due to this country now colonized by the British and English being the most common language spoken. Galveston was a french speaking Island during the colonization of France before the Spaniards colonized it and now the British. It's the same concept with African countries that were colonized.
@Trd2020
@Trd2020 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for bringing light to this. My grandfather who is Mexican-american has stories of segregation. Seems like history only talks about blacks suffering racism. But our family went through the same 💩 because we are Mexican.
@Itallbackfired
@Itallbackfired 14 күн бұрын
The reason why they only talk about blacks is because Mexican race fell right behind blacks meaning you were looked at as the same so there was no need to mention you because what blks went through included you . Not to mention you’re still going through those things right now with them trying to kick you guys out of the country. You guys are still kinda fighting for your rights. White Americans won’t acknowledge you guys as white because us white Americans don’t acknowledge the Spain people as whites they might look white but they are not white Spanish isn’t European if anything they are like the black whites. Same with Jews and Germans the more you Mexican try to cling on to that Spaniard thing the more Spaniards are pushed away from being white
@elizabetharellano6451
@elizabetharellano6451 15 күн бұрын
I'm just happy been half European and half Mexican Native indigenous, we are all children of God ❤
@derp3305
@derp3305 15 күн бұрын
A documentary about Mexico and one of the tribe elders said *"Mexicans don't think like native Mexican, they think with the mind of their colonizers."* We have history and the Mexican-American war tells that we were already here in California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. Lastly, another quote *"We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us!"*
@buckjohnnie2642
@buckjohnnie2642 14 күн бұрын
@@derp3305 It happens. Native here…mentioned ‘Mexican’ to a very dark skinned friend while in the military. He said, “I’m not fkn Mexican, I’m SPANISH, man”. I had to LOL.
@sergiodavila5269
@sergiodavila5269 13 күн бұрын
EXACTLY 👍🏽
@user-rx3cz6bi4v
@user-rx3cz6bi4v 12 күн бұрын
@@derp3305 that documentary doesn't speak for us, and they certainly don't know us.
@derp3305
@derp3305 12 күн бұрын
@@user-rx3cz6bi4v The problem is we don't know ourselves because we were stripped of our identity of Natives. Go and see the surviving tribes in Mexico and learn from them because we were them once. Heck, I discovered the Chichimeca tribe because my auntie had stories that she was told by older folks and there remaining ancestors that hid gold near the river beds under rocks.
@psychedelicyeti6053
@psychedelicyeti6053 11 күн бұрын
I've been hearing these words from my dad's teachings, and just talking to people. If you remember the documentary you're quoting, could you please share it? Thank you
@WhyYouMadd40
@WhyYouMadd40 3 ай бұрын
I can believe this bc I consider Mexicans white myself and I’m a black man
@elizandropedraza1286
@elizandropedraza1286 23 күн бұрын
Black.🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@wackytoons88
@wackytoons88 22 күн бұрын
@@WhyYouMadd40 so does it matter
@WhyYouMadd40
@WhyYouMadd40 22 күн бұрын
@@wackytoons88 wym does it matter? 🤣🤣🤣 you sound stressed over there champ calm down.
@targetedindividualjros1745
@targetedindividualjros1745 21 күн бұрын
Yea whyyoumadd, you going to answer him? It's been 10 hours
@WhyYouMadd40
@WhyYouMadd40 21 күн бұрын
@@targetedindividualjros1745 answer him bout what? WTF is y’all talking bout? Niggas under my post like I said something disrespectful mane GTFO with that nutt ass shìt
@wicked2740
@wicked2740 18 күн бұрын
Just found the channel very interesting. You just need to put a little more Tapatío on your voice. I was falling asleep there for a minute. I don’t mean any disrespect there, but you need to put some enthusiasm into the videos. Otherwise very interesting video.
@nytn
@nytn 18 күн бұрын
this made me laugh out loud, thanks. This was a year old video. I hope I have been improving!
@The_Rebeliate
@The_Rebeliate 16 күн бұрын
Mi Papá es mexicano y mi mamá es americana. Soy nacido y Creiado en los Estados Unidos. My dad is Mexican and my mom is American. I’m born and raised in the U.S. I am an American. Mexican is nationality, not a race. I need a passport to go into Mexico, why? Because Mexico isn’t my country of birth. As far as I know the Mexican American title is for people who hold dual citizenship. I could be wrong but this was explained to me by a college professor, which makes sense. Although you have the right to call yourself whatever you want, that’s the beauty of this country.
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts 10 ай бұрын
As a crafter, the colour white is both a great accent colour and a wonderful main colour. Hearing these accounts of the "muddy" journeys to being classified as "white" in America is so ironic. I guess that some mud can appear white when dried? 🤷 I hope that we can continue to move to a place of understanding that ALL humans are more similar than different once one looks past skin colour, language, and culture. 💖
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
I prefer black as a neutral color for crafting. I think that it sets off the colors better and like it better than white for the same purpose.
@ou8r122
@ou8r122 10 ай бұрын
@@johnnyearp52 Both are not considered a color. Black is voided of all light and white is corrupt light. They are considered one in the same on a spectrum.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
@@ou8r122 I know black and white are not technically colors. Black absorbs all light. White reflects all light.
@ou8r122
@ou8r122 10 ай бұрын
@@johnnyearp52 White is considered a corruption the colors Red, Green, Blue when bent it becomes white. Nothing in nature is white except snow. Example was leprous, as [white as] snow. Numbers 12:10 and was] leprous as snow. Exodus 4:6 It is basically a genetic plague for punishment of sin by GOD. Black is voided of all light and thus only can have light to shine through it.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 Ай бұрын
Their are a lot of "White Americans " who are brown skin tone like Joe Rogan and /or Russell Brant the British Reporter.
@vblake530530
@vblake530530 10 ай бұрын
Too short Teach! You’re killing me here. I’m still sharing this though.
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
You're the best☝
@LVQuinn83
@LVQuinn83 11 күн бұрын
I'm Irish and we are Celtic and my people went through genocide in Ireland because of the English.. When my people came to America we were slaved and discriminated against and many Irish soldiers called the San Patricios fought proudly on Mexicos side during the Mexican American war... I will never be whitewashed and label myself by a skin color it's ridiculous... Celts are the ancestors of Spaniards. They were probably the largest ethnicity that contributed their genes to nowadays Spaniards, along with other Mediterranean peoples collectively known as Iberians. ERIN GO BRAGH 🇮🇪 MÉXICO PARA SIEMPRE 🇲🇽
@kyrabarr2846
@kyrabarr2846 20 күн бұрын
It is unfortunate that other ethnicities are now truly understanding and feeling what African Americans have been dealing with for a very long time. Discrimination is very repugnant, and as an African-American woman I have experienced it, as well as my people for a very long time. I hope that other ethnicities take this into consideration and understand that they must be mindful of how they treat, as well as engage with african-americans. Sadly other ethnicities who are non white have discriminated and treated African-Americans poorly as well. Now that other ethnicities are truly figuring out that not only are they being treated poorly now they understand what we've been going through. It's sad that it takes situations like this to bring all of this to light and have empathy for other people.
@Ggg496
@Ggg496 20 күн бұрын
But blacks are racist against latinos , trust me I know , you guys are doing to others, what you dislike the most , specially Africans that are new to our continent, they already bring the mind set that it’s ok to disrespect us
@MysticRyokan
@MysticRyokan Ай бұрын
for a country that is so obsessed with race and identity, there's so much ignorance perpetuated in the U.S on this topic, I've had many friends say he's not white he's mexican, which first of all I never once tell people I'm mexican, I will tell them I'm latino/hispanic but they'll forget and default to Mexican (which my family is actually Salvy) but just the fact that they confuse nationality with race shows the problem. And though most latino's aren't 100% caucasian, most of us do have caucasian ancestry to say that we're not is rejecting a part of our heritage, And when I bring up how most of us speak a language originating from a caucasian country (Spain/Portuguese), practice a religion from Europe and some of us are even born with fair skin like myself then their perception switches to your not white, you guys are tan or olive skin.. (even though my skin tone is visually lighter than that caucasian american.. I guess I'm somehow just not white enough? Not to mention various federal forms like the census also labeling hispanic as a race which further perpetuates this. I am also proud of my indigenous heritage but I am mestizo meaning I'm mixed though I found that to mean I belong to both backgrounds, not one or the other or even neither as many people have come to believe.
@failyourwaytothetop
@failyourwaytothetop 24 күн бұрын
What percentage of your genetic structure is European? Are you more European or Native?
@user-gw2od7fj9b
@user-gw2od7fj9b 23 күн бұрын
Spain was much more obsessed with race than the USA its a big reason they did the Spanish Inquisition Spain was obsessed with racial purity they forced the Basque people to wear a dead chicken leg around their necks to signify their low caste and its also why Spain created a caste system in Mexico
@__-fl3yt
@__-fl3yt 23 күн бұрын
​@@user-gw2od7fj9b😂 and Britains decide to wipe out the land and pushed the few natives alive into reservations.
@failyourwaytothetop
@failyourwaytothetop 23 күн бұрын
@@user-gw2od7fj9b The one drop rule was far worse. Those who obviously were white consigned to slavery on the basis of being 1/32 or less black. Mark Twain penned one short story on such a case and exposed the absurdity of holding to such a standard.
@quetzalcahualchapman5439
@quetzalcahualchapman5439 23 күн бұрын
In 2024 why do you continue to embrace a False and Hateful Society that keeps a Nation sperated. Racism is illogical embrace Humanity.
@hemanthathirumaran7654
@hemanthathirumaran7654 10 ай бұрын
They still aren't white, most Mexicans are mestizos i:e: a mix between native Americans and Spanish.
@dinkster1729
@dinkster1729 10 ай бұрын
Native Americans are descended from the caucasian race so they are "white" as well. Just a darker shade of white in some cases.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
​@@dinkster1729 Native Americans came here 12,000+ years ago. They have become different over this time and it is not correct to call them Caucasian anymore.
@dinkster1729
@dinkster1729 10 ай бұрын
​ @@johnnyearp52 ??? Their cultures are different, but so are ours from the people who left the Caucasus mountains.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
@@dinkster1729 Most "white" people in the USA are not Caucasian. Native Americans are not Caucasian either.
@dinkster1729
@dinkster1729 10 ай бұрын
How do you define "White"? If the indigenous of North America are indeed White and DNA tells us that they are and the Indigenous people of Spain are largely White certainly. then, the traditional Mexicans are also largely White according to their DNA.
@shaifunnessa7816
@shaifunnessa7816 10 ай бұрын
British American history please make video
@gregorybible7610
@gregorybible7610 19 күн бұрын
So true 👍
@ethangamer3173
@ethangamer3173 10 ай бұрын
Most Mexicans are native then white and some African, percentages vary but the highest is NATIVE AMERICAN
@Dominion.Intelligence
@Dominion.Intelligence 10 ай бұрын
According to ignorant people like you and because people like you stereotype everyone.
@thekingofmoney2000
@thekingofmoney2000 2 ай бұрын
Not always, it's depends on the region, Mexico is a big country.
@lapieblanche6863
@lapieblanche6863 2 ай бұрын
From what i seen if really varies even among mestizos on average dna test shown that mexicans are usually a bit more european there are mexicans who look much more white who have more indigenous ancestry than very native looking mexicans
@dianafranco1722
@dianafranco1722 Ай бұрын
What you wrote here is 100 percent correct for my Mexican husband from Acapulco. His DNA test showed that he is 70 percent Native American, 14 percent African, 7 percent European, 6 percent Philippines, and then a random 2 percent Japanese, and 1 percent Jewish.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 Ай бұрын
Most Mexicans are more Iberic in their DNA but in general look Indigenous-Mexican
@westcoastmex629
@westcoastmex629 10 ай бұрын
There was and is bad people all over the world . I don’t know why this matters yes its history but i don’t feel any anger at our white fellow Americans.. As a Brown Mexican raised in Los Angeles I never felt or had the need to fit in with the anglo population or even the need to mix with Anglos For the most part segregation has been and is ok with most Mexican Americans .The fact is as tax payers we do demand equal education for our children. What we lacked in our communities we creat or work around it. We are very family and community orientated we take pride in our families and communities. Truth is mexican American kids have never considered themselves anglo American (European decent) we take pride in our mestizó blood lines we don’t want hand outs we want self sufficiency
@misaelaguirre1701
@misaelaguirre1701 22 күн бұрын
I look italian or french but then again the spanish that came to the north of mexico where northern Spaniards, the basque which share border with france, my older bro looks straigh up white spanish, my younger brother looks like a mix native, my sister looks Philippina, that being said were more on the european side looking at the family tree but we dont feel white but mixed native Mediterranean
@metrosoul1
@metrosoul1 10 ай бұрын
Great Channel. Is that Moog behind you?
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
Yes!
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
I have a cookbook by Moog's wife.
@krono5el
@krono5el 10 ай бұрын
Mexicans def have a strong spanish/gringo side, they love jesus and their favorite music mariachi is an offshoot of polka. Its all very european now.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
Not the food.
@thekingofmoney2000
@thekingofmoney2000 2 ай бұрын
@@johnnyearp52the food has European influences, mixed with native influences, it also depends on the region. Cuisine varies by region in Mexico.
@Tepaneca
@Tepaneca 16 күн бұрын
Culturally European. Ethnically mostly Amerindian though
@pete6300
@pete6300 10 ай бұрын
You know what's sad. Those racists were ultimately successful. Instead of "segregating" Spanish speaking students to different buildings, they developed the ESOL program. The program would remove students from their classroom for huge swaths of time that ultimately negatively affect their integration. My mother used to get mad AF when the schools would insist I join the the program even though my english was fine. Missing hours of instruction on a daily basis caused many of the Spanish speakers I knew to fail grades.
@carlosmalagon3849
@carlosmalagon3849 17 күн бұрын
Sorry but there's no sound
@andymedina7054
@andymedina7054 7 күн бұрын
Hello, Thank you for the great info. As a kid I asked my father what race was I. He said Mestizo. I wasn't sure what meant in English at the time. 🤣 As an adult I noticed my birth certificate said Caucasian. I wondered about my mixed part. I am light skin with freckles. I learned that my great grandma spoke Huichol. I also learned that our last name comes from the Middle east through Spain. Well, now on my race choice if Mix is not an option, I put native now. ❤ It's a start.
@tknows470
@tknows470 10 ай бұрын
“The soft bigotry of low expectations “.
@nytn
@nytn 10 ай бұрын
oh yah you nailed it
@MDpart2
@MDpart2 10 ай бұрын
It always boggles my mind why certain people have an incredible need to feel superior. It is this need that makes them far more inferior.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Superiority is a problem just like Narcissism is a problem.
@Itzpapalotl.
@Itzpapalotl. 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know how I missed this video, as I’ve been a follower for over a year. My grandfather had an elementary school photo from 1920. It was integrated but the Mexican kids were shoe-less and visibly poor compared to the white pupils. My mother grew up in the 50’s/60’s, dark brown skin Mestiza. However her teachers said she should tick the white box any time a race questionnaire was presented.
@enriquediaz483
@enriquediaz483 21 күн бұрын
We're actually the real Americans They're euroamericans
@sethhack899
@sethhack899 16 күн бұрын
My own father, in the 40s, was punished in elementary school for speaking Spanish. His mother was native Mexican of New Mexico. Spanish was the language spoken at home at that time for him.
@jessiecastillo8503
@jessiecastillo8503 14 күн бұрын
I was punished In my school for speaking Spanish during the 60s
@abelgalindo9566
@abelgalindo9566 8 ай бұрын
Mexicans are not a race, but a nationality, most mestizos, some mostly either European or Native, some mixed with African or Asian, or both. See videos on Mexican DNA.
@danielspencer6174
@danielspencer6174 10 ай бұрын
Some Mexican are dark colour there native-Mexican I would say ?
@dianafranco1722
@dianafranco1722 Ай бұрын
They are Native Americans. Mexico is in North America.
@SlurryNoises
@SlurryNoises 14 күн бұрын
Half focused on the history, half fixated on those eyes 😍
@rtalways
@rtalways 15 күн бұрын
My wife is half Anglo and half-Mexican and she is dropped dead gorgeous I am so lucky
@Kimshi4242
@Kimshi4242 10 ай бұрын
Mexicans are white? lol
@Dominion.Intelligence
@Dominion.Intelligence 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, legally, Hispanics are white.
@Vallesoletano
@Vallesoletano 5 ай бұрын
the court decided that. your opinion is irrelevant LOL.
@amela658
@amela658 3 ай бұрын
some mexicans are white, some arent.... There are mexicans with 90% spanish dna who obviously are white, and there are mexicans with 90% indigoneus dna who obviously are not
@pipeflush
@pipeflush 3 ай бұрын
Most are mixed w European and Native American. Doesnt mean they claim to be white nor are they seen as white.
@randomcamus9445
@randomcamus9445 3 ай бұрын
I am from Mexico and the majority of us are brown, but there are white, Asian and black people who are Mexican from many generations and mestizos.
@M-gb6np
@M-gb6np 6 ай бұрын
Gracias
@DimMak74
@DimMak74 3 ай бұрын
"Separate but equal"........... I love that.........
@omguillensfamily8632
@omguillensfamily8632 15 күн бұрын
My family is from Texas since it was Mexican territory, my dads cousin Eva Longoria wrote a book, The border crossed us.
@omguillensfamily8632
@omguillensfamily8632 15 күн бұрын
Our Sur name is Solis from La Grulla
@LuckyBruin1
@LuckyBruin1 10 ай бұрын
Spelling out the inconsistencies in how hispanic Americans have been treated and legally defined is an important statement in this video. I have cousins who are the children of both Mexican and Spanish immigrants and they choose to call themselves the latter because of the perceived whiteness (i.e. Europeanness) it conveys. To this day, Mexican immigrants are treated differently because of their predominately indigenous nature.
@culturalobserver8721
@culturalobserver8721 4 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean by “indigenous nature”. Do you mean how they look?? Sounds like you’re trying to make an oh so subtle racial slur, eh?! By the way, not all Mexican Americans label themselves “Spanish” only. Many I have personally known (in California and the Southwest) are proud of their indigenous Mexican heritage. Perhaps 100+ years ago some Mexican Americans may have emphasized the Spanish, but that’s definitely not necessarily the case with many in this day and age!
@LuckyBruin1
@LuckyBruin1 4 ай бұрын
@culturalobserver8721 Yes, I do mean because of how we look. My grandfather's lighter skinned, more Hispanic family treated my grandmother poorly because of her darker, more native looking complexion. Her 11 children, including my father, had her same darker complexion and were also looked down upon by their paternal uncle, aunts, and even some cousins because of it. While I will grant that it was 60+ years ago, there are still some subtle ways this still happens to this day. But who knows, maybe some of those Mexican Americans you have known in California are my cousins, who stretch the entire length and breadth of the state. There are so many that I have lost count. I am personally very proud of my mixed heritage, mostly Spanish, but quite a bit of indigenous, with a smattering of African and Jewish for good measure. But Mexican migrants are still treated differently in the United States to this day. It is one of the reasons why, when one hears mention of the border crisis, one immediately thinks of the southern border with Mexico and not those pesky Canadians who come visit us here in Arizona every winter.
@frankjrock
@frankjrock 23 күн бұрын
@@culturalobserver8721 That wasn’t my experience and I’m from LA. In my college years, many racially passing white Mexicans would only mainly hang out with other white people. I knew of some that would even deny their heritage. I have more indigenous features and always get mistaken for native, most only knew because of my name. I guess we all see it differently. I would also hear many of them say they were Spanish or Spanish Descendants which is partly or completely true depending on their ancestry.
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