Oakland coffee shop not playing nice with cops

[@nitetrane98]

If I was a LEO these days I'd bring a thermos and brown bag lunch every day.

[@derriklee287]

Good for you, nobody asked or gives a shit

[@zen8704]

@@derriklee287 you know no one asked for you to be born but I guess your parents never really cared

[@iamergoproxy3476]

That does save money

[@homelandfreedom]

That be a good idea sad to say but people are tired of cops abuse... There are good cops but there more bad cops these days

[@VivaciousVirgO]

😂

[@sonjacool9478]

There are several coffee shops refusing to serve cop. This is a reflection of the horrible service, abuse and ill-treatment from cops. I will not serve them either.

[@Abdurrahman-gh3zv]

Exactly

[@flabbybum9562]

Well, maybe we should all refuse to serve you?

[@franksanz1044]

Yet you support criminals? Look at Oakland now - infested with crime

[@yetison1163]

Did anyone stop to think, that the police earned that kind of rejection?

[@killingheros3554]

No.

[@MaddoxsLaundromatAdventures]

Hell No

[@dianev1021]

Omg, genius alert! Yeah ALL cops are bad. Ignorance is bliss

[@Rolkey]

yeah I think so everyday, they earn the hate not the other way around.

[@terrellrobinson3286]

Maybe he has a religious objection.

[@dane4073]

Someone go rob this place and say. None of you are going home tonight. Then they will want the cops

[@NotSure876]

No, the would want their friends, cops are scum

[@Lightning0127]

Owners have a right to serve who ever they want or don't want! Its their establishment, end of story and i mean any one they don't want to serve.

[@rd6474]

Mike27 really? Look at the backlash Starbucks got for telling two guys to leave who weren’t even buying coffee.

[@Fenris77]

So if someone didn't want to serve BLM or Antifa or Islamists would that also be okay? NOT likely... A Coffe shop run by some criminal SOB. It is discrimination.

[@robertbrock4204]

So how bout a cop comes off duty and gets a cup of Joe. How would you know?

At one time that was true. Because of racism, it no longer is. Because of anti-Semitism, homophobia, etc. it no longer is. You can't go to jail for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple but you will be sued and slandered/libeled like crazy.

[@killingheros3554]

And when they get robbed and killed, police have a right to serve who they want because it's their choice as well.

[@paulajohnson1096]

You know, There used to be a time in this country, When businesses actually gave away cups of coffee to the police, emts, and firefighters for FREE. And do you know why they did that? Because- just their mere presence caused crimes to go down in that area, and all it cost them was a simple cup of coffee. In this situation, the reverse could happen. And the crime rates will skyrocket at this location. And all over the same little cup of coffee.

[@Mar-ie5lk]

When the criminal element and criminal mindset of the city and even it's mayor is greater than the good, this is the outcome.

[@delfeayothompson9318]

If Black people kept donuts and coffee on them when they run into the police they would stop Murdering them and protect and serve them you mean? What a Dumb Ass statement.

[@NotSure876]

Mar The criminal element is the cops

[@deniselee1527]

Well nurses and Dr. Have saved lives while they were having to pay for there coffee....where is there coffee.....or teachers that teach our kids...where there coffee....or the fire fighter that saved a family's home where his coffee....they should have to pay for there dam coffee themselves....they make more then the jobs I did list

[@tony7672]

Boot licker,

[@JosePerez-ee8vw]

They are done, gangbangers don't drink coffee that much. The place looks like a city dump. Why go there.

[@bricesmith1060]

To have a safe place to get coffee. Cops murder.

[@yuebing7]

I just looked them up. They're apparently doing very well and have a high rating.

[@chunnil4898]

Then no wonder the pigs have a feeding trough in that dump.

[@chunnil4898]

@Rich752C I'll ask your hyper-militarized, barely-trained pig buddies for help with that. 4 months to be a pig, 2 years to be a beautician.

[@chunnil4898]

@Rich752C I teach special ed children with more reading comprehension than you and the pigs you fellate.

[@lindamarci7069]

Who they gonna call when they get robbed....good luck

[@jg708257]

So your sure that cops would take their feelings into account and not do their job even though they took a fake oath. Me too.

[@lynnsavoy9388]

It's. Coffee people.

[@rigonolasco2792]

The robbers will be cops

[@packingten]

@@rigonolasco2792 WHO LET YOU IN OUR COUNTRY!!?.

[@packingten]

@Tyler Wilson Yes most of you people think that because you just can't comply with orders given by police!.I have talked to other blacks who follow orders that said they never had a problem ever.

[@Hoycelolland]

Which is the good cop. Ths criminal with badges or the rest of the department employees that know who the threat is within but choose to say and do nothing?

[@hmac7187]

Lol 😂 they sent a letter asking if they could please have coffee

[@crocpinkest1219]

Who wants the coffee shop anyway. When you can make one at home better

[@derriklee287]

I do because they're awesome for not serving pigs

[@hslhrd707]

You probably go to starbucks lol you aint never used a coffee maker in your life..gtfoh 🤣

[@jessegarcia6273]

Everyone has rights to refuse the service there coffee shop there rules there services

[@charlessmith6412]

Their coffee not there coffee. Their rules not there rules. You're welcome.

[@charlessmith6412]

I had a response from Antwon Savage, but he seems to have deleted his response, because I can't find it now. His response was "they have right to refuse service including to police". My response would have been, in that case do they have the right to refuse service to transgenders? Gays? African-Americans? Anybody that doesn't speak Spanish? The coffee shop is just a bunch of discriminating bigots.

[@yixnorb5971]

@@charlessmith6412 Even so, it's a privately owned business and their right.

[@charlessmith6412]

yixnorb: Even privately owned businesses who are open to the public need to observe some degree of fairness. Or, to put it another way, do you endorse the idea that businesses can have the unlimited right of refusal? If I open a shop, can I say that blacks will not be served? Or will you allow me the right to refuse service only to groups that you don't like? It all sounds to me that's very arbitrary and unfair.

[@edgarrett8822]

Its there right to go out of business.

[@gardeningdianne]

It's simple, everyone should boycott the coffee shop. I wonder if the police would boycott the coffee shop if it were held up or someone vandalised or graffitied it. They could say, sorry we're not allowed inside.

[@somedudeontwitterstalkedme3829]

still? After all you have seen, you still are this person?

[@thecoldhardtruth6819]

No boycott needed from civilians I don't care if the police boycott it and I don't wish any harm come to them to show we don't need cops

[@derriklee287]

They're useless anyways so it wouldn't matter

[@killingheros3554]

I'm happy Floyd was eliminated. Hahahahaha......

[@victoriasalinas5636]

Hey I support him that what happened when cops do bad things

[@packingten]

None of you illegals like the police!.

[@dasveult4087]

Shop: HELP WE'RE GETTING ROBBED!! Cops: oh well we're not allowed in

[@NotSure876]

giuseppe mendoza You’re still stupid

[@coldychristopher]

It's their job go serve and protect not to be served

[@mikeyd7435]

@Tyler Wilson well maybe they will drive really slow if they get that call.that is the way the world works!

[@driley5004]

OAKLAND? i hope they just realized they became a robbery target. The friend of the owner made an awfully blanket statement for a minority that's subjected to blanket statements

[@bevhills4877]

😂Since when have cops prevented robberies? Almost never. Its store employees and customers onsite who do the saving of lives 99% of the time. And in fact many ppl have been arrested for saving the lives of others.

[@FIGNAS83]

Better not call 911 when your dump gets vandalized or robbed 😂😂😂

[@TheSoftball2003]

Yes he or she will call the cops. its their job, but most pig cops don't know what they do for a living.

[@korikori116]

Things are not just black or white. Not all officers are bad cops. It’s just not reasonable to do things like this.

[@denmac19]

Now everyone knows where to go to rob a coffee shop! Not that they have much worth robbing.

[@trinidadsanchez3342]

Drug test all law enforcement weekly as a national standard

[@CarlosCastillo-bf7wd]

They have the right to refuse service. Some people have had terrible experiences with cops let them be.

[@franksanz1044]

Ok - let’s stop serving black people

[@giuseppirondinelli9379]

WE need more stores like this ! LET THEM BRING THERE OWN COFFE !!

[@meahdahlgren5875]

Right

[@killingheros3554]

You are wrong and so damn foolish.

[@franksanz1044]

But yet you support criminals

[@RomulusV-g5i]

Democrat.

[@The_Ghost_of_Kiev]

Schools and universities refusing to accept their children would also be nice!

[@josephyork4175]

You don't serve officers? That's okay. I don't eat officers.

[@kchiloquin5570]

I had a cop pull me over and impound my Dad's car 1 time. It cost me $$$ to get it out of impound. Used to get padded down for being at the park down town. Yep I can relate.

[@cornonthecob1268]

If the idiots get robbed, who would they call? Lol I hope this coffee shop goes under

[@raindogs451]

Cobcorn What an immature comment

[@packingten]

@@raindogs451 No it is NOT immature he's right they don't like police then don't call them!. Or are you a hypocrite as well?.😏

[@raindogs451]

@@packingten You too, are immature. This is not a dispute between neighbors, or spouses or buddies. Ever heard a soldier [rightfully] say, "I disagree with everything you represent, but I'll fight to the death to defend your right to say it." Until we got our current baby in chief, 44 presidents recognized they were the president of every single American; not just the one that love them. Every mature President, Congressperson and police officer understands that there is a much greater issue and principle involoved, so they easily look past sundry behaviors because they know Just What They're Here For. Examples ABOUND. A KKK member helps an injured black motorist; inmates help a fallen guard. "The police shouldn't have to protect you because you don't like them" is the narrow view of a 16 year old. I could resist an arrest so much today it comes to blows, and 99.9% of cops would pull me out of a buring car tomorrow. Their service is one to society, it's to---and the risk of sounding trite--to "serve and protect." Their service isn't conditional as long as they're liked or supported. That allows them to save the life of someone who tried to kill them 10 minutes ago. Maturity impels them to look at the principle not the personality. I disagree with the coffee shop owner, btw. But if they were held up tomorrow the police would respond. Because they're bigger than you are.

[@cornonthecob1268]

@@raindogs451 you're the only mature person on here

[@raindogs451]

@@cornonthecob1268 thank you :)

[@hectorromo6060]

Good cops letting bad cops get away with brutality is the reason people look at all cops the same.

[@jp-ty1vd]

kinda like when good people allow bad people to get away with brutality. hmmmm

[@kevinhoward4036]

The business has just opened and they are alienating a large group of customers they won't last long in business that's for sure

[@somedudeontwitterstalkedme3829]

this was two years ago dumb ass

[@kevinhoward4036]

@@somedudeontwitterstalkedme3829 Past hense dumbass obviously it was a while ago by the date of the video but I was commenting as a new business at the time it was made doesn't take a genius to work that one out

[@packingten]

@@kevinhoward4036 Those people love berating others&can dish it out but can't take it!.

[@A_Bit_of_Thought]

@The Mold Kingdom The level of disrespect some pigs show the police is totally disgusting.

[@hectochango5831]

If the good cops ignore the bad cops is there a good cop?

[@MyScannell]

No criminal drugs sale Goin on here

[@Shay99]

And who do they call when there is a problem? A coffee shop?

[@williamcopley3861]

cops work for us not vice versa

[@tony7672]

They pay taxes too right? The police are the servants, we call them only when we need them, because we are not afforded the right to protect ourselves.

[@Shay99]

Police are the, "servants", not to Protect and Serve"? Well look at you! Your out of my tax bracket.

[@derriklee287]

More useful than calling the cops

[@derriklee287]

@@williamcopley3861 lol, yea good joke dude. Wtf you smoking?

[@bad74maverick1]

A baker in Oregon was sued out of existence for the same thing, and they didn't even advertise their aversions and helped those they turned away find a baker who could help them............

[@hawhite2000]

Umm not exactly that baker refused to serve a protected class per Oregon law. Police aren't a protected class.

[@bad74maverick1]

@@hawhite2000 They were not a protected class and the right to refuse service isn't a state law.

[@jackofalltrades3139]

I hope first responders NEVER show up when the coffee shop needs help!

[@g0ast]

If only all these commenters angry at cops being refused service felt the same about black people being kicked out of places just because they're black. For some reason these commenters feel the need to protect cops but not ordinary people.

[@fredkithcart5237]

LEOs and justice department= largest criminal Syndicate in America

[@danhunter8021]

The owner has the right to refuse service to anyone for any, or no, reason. We, on the other hand, can NOT refuse the police "Services". To most people, the cops are not their friends. So I don't blame the owner for banning them. I don't want any gang members in my store. And unfortunately, the police definitely fit the description of a gang.

[@franksanz1044]

Can they refuse service to black people?

[@danhunter8021]

I don't know. Can a white person get a scholarship from the NAACP? There are lots of double standards in this world. Deal with it.

[@abcun17]

"All they do is harm and threaten people"...but when we or our families are assaulted, robbed, raped, murdered by other "law abiding citizens"...we really need them and call them first... Glad to see the education system churn out such brilliant examples or intelligent individuals...

[@Tylerrl1664]

We don’t call police. Believe it or not, we actually don’t need their “help.”

[@abcun17]

@@Tylerrl1664 Good for you.. Don't. Good luck with that.

[@Tylerrl1664]

@@abcun17 Maybe you can eat your vegetables so you can grow up strong and take care of yourself? Eat your spinach.

[@meahdahlgren5875]

@@abcun17 will this world is messed up

[@abcun17]

@@meahdahlgren5875 Huh?

[@thuongton5854]

Then police has right to refuse 911 call from this coffee shop.

[@robertallain8966]

u r an asshole and dumb as they come . its the police JOB and if u refuse to do your job and protect people , then u r a piece of shit like yourself !

[@lindaedwards5181]

Y’all Talking Noise Policeman 👮‍♂️ are No Good I’m Glad They Didn’t Serve Him

[@stevenmeadows6917]

Any business can refuse anyone for any reason.....any questions?

[@EvilLeprechuan]

That is so true, yet cops can not legally choose who they want to service cause they are hired to protect and serve the entire public, if they did, they would be fired, but that never happens, when they mess up, they just get a paid vacation, and come back after it's cooled off.

[@killingerk]

alright let me get this straight they have the right refuse service to anyone in the community now just imagine the store opens says they won't serve black people or Chinese people Japanese people let's see how pissed they will be imagine a store open in the US where everyone's Freedom everyone should be treated equally said no black people. when people do this it feels like we're going back in the past

[@stevenmeadows6917]

@@killingerk This may come as a surprise, but not everything in life has to do with race. No, you obviously didn't get anything "straight".....don't they teach reading comprehension in school anymore? Someone's profession does not automatically grant them some sort of implied guarantee of service when it comes to the wishes of a business owner and his policy on who he wants to serve. From what I can see, the business owner isn't fond of cops, and so be it, that's HIS business (literally). Not everyone blindly respects cops, remember that.

[@jigsaw9749]

so can a business refuse black people ?

[@sandyovals]

not true, you can't refuse service because of skin color.

[@deadcraftdawn0094]

Good on this coffee shop, we need to quit serving these traitors

[@killingheros3554]

No, this is pathetic and sad, much like your small pathetic comment.

[@miggie2099]

You do does realize someone 's going to Rob the at gun point and no one all show up.

[@bevhills4877]

Lol As if they show up now. Go read all about Warren Vs Washington DC.

[@kevinlockwood7357]

I bet they got that coveted

[@braska19]

When they get robbed the police have the right not to attend

[@danielspidell7910]

Can I open a coffee shop and say no Puerto ricans? Or blacks? No u cant

[@th35773]

You can’t discriminate based on race. It is a constitutionally protected right to regress your government, to protest your government. Refusing to serve government representatives is free speech.

[@frankrizzo9692]

I worked at a fast food restaurant as a teenager, I had a co-worker who hated cops. He would blow snot from his nose, and/or put boogers on the on the burger if it was a cop who was getting the food. He would call it "Giving the cop= a ham-boogie" LOL. If you are a cop...Never, EVER, eat out, especially at a fast food joint. Nobody wants to eat a ham-boogie...... :)

[@faithbetinis4129]

I love this^ 👏

[@killingheros3554]

You should have stopped him and now, you are an accomplice to this scum type behavior. Pathetic..

[@jerryleewoodward7064]

if you dont like the law dont ever call 911 for help if theres a shooting there be carefull what you say

[@TheSoftball2003]

cops are the scum of the world and they dont know what they do for a living. They deserve what they get.

[@davejustdave3427]

Trust is earned. Good Cops need to step up and root the Bad Cops out.

[@patinocody]

Dave Justdave it’s extremely hard when the whole system is corrupt.

[@dirtyfingernails3800]

FTP

[@davejustdave3427]

I believe in people's goodness. There are good cops, just not enough of them, not enough with the courage to actually stand up for freedom, and stand against evil.

[@davejustdave3427]

I don't know what you're babbling about.

[@samgallant4292]

the good will never root out the bad....the police force is a criminal organization! they are GANG members with costumes and badges nothing more......as a matter of fact they relate to ISIS so in my eyes and many others they are BLUE ISIS!

[@Bwh-rm3py]

When the cops are gone the businesses will also be gone.

[@bevhills4877]

Pfffft 😂 Delusional

[@Harryslotter]

A coffee shop with standards, not serving the corrupt.

[@franksanz1044]

You sound like a typical liberal or criminal supporter

[@armsquad]

Lack of intelligence does not excuse your thoughts.

[@reaper-vx9ju]

it's a free country they can serve whoever they want and they can refuse service to whoever they want whenever they want however they want and no one else has nothing to say over about it short and sweet. me and every other's armed forces member that saw combat in this country past present and in the future are all going to tell you the same thing we fought for these freedoms for these people just like we the people gave the police Governor senators president the power that they have it is up to us the people to take control back and this coffee shop owner gets 100% Marine corps salute from me

[@flabbybum9562]

What you say is true up to a point.

[@Chewy416]

Don't patronize that business. Remember that name.

[@derriklee287]

I'd patronize them only because they tell cops to go fuck themselves

[@TheBreadbank69]

*proceeds to patronize the business*

[@jessicaribot2288]

Am.I the only one having a difficult time giving a shit?! There are lots of places to go in Oakland, this is just one where their not welcome! If a business owner chooses to not serve cops, that's his business! If there are consequences to that decision, I'm sure he's well aware!

[@FRMOutsideSpace]

That Puerto Rican accent is thick af

[@Chris_Diggity]

Go make your own coffee.

[@rufus4779]

Don't call 911 when you are robbed! Talk to your neighbors instead!

[@humantheweekendguy1899]

Rufus477 yeah neighbor Karen will help them.

[@brianwalsh1401]

Now what exactly are your neighbors going to do if you get robbed or beaten. Conduct an investigation.

[@michaelp1972]

Wow well let's see how long your business stays open now

[@iamergoproxy3476]

Just because cops dont go there? As if other people dont drink coffee?

[@akarubiu]

Are cops the only clients? The same cops that kill blacks and Hispanics at free will....let them go get served by their wives

[@jeanmaria5085]

I bet the owner would be the first one to call the police if he was robbed but he thinks he will not let them in well since not allowed in oh well cop's not allowed when the owner needs help

[@kevinlockwood7357]

I bet they wouldnt

[@Mikeandlucy1]

Cops are quick enough to kick a black man out of a store because a clerk does not want to serve them, how about some of your own medicine for a change.

[@jasbarsoph]

So are the cops going in looking for free coffee or something, Most establishments are quite satisfied for police to frequent their premises, its added security, So when some people go into this coffee shop and get involved in an altercation with other people and the coffee shop is being smashed up and they hop over the counter and help themselves to the contents of the cash register, What’s the coffee shops policy/position on this, Do they call the very people they won’t serve, To arrive on scene go and put your life in jeopardy for these ungrateful people, I’m not a cop, But I can say hand on heart I certainly would not be in to much of a hurry to get to this establishment when the shit hits the fan, And when the local hood-looms know this you may close your door and pack up your empty cash register.

[@charlessmith6412]

@Tony T This is California. It won't be long before even shop owners are disarmed.

[@charlessmith6412]

Tony T: The United States Supreme Court has ruled that there is no obligation on the part of the police to protect citizens. Also, there is no way to enforce how rapidly they respond to a call when they do. So when you call, it's likely that they will respond, but not necessarily in a rapid fashion. Even in the best of circumstances, they are usually there in time to clean up the mess and draw chalk lines. So, good luck.

[@charlessmith6412]

Tony T: Good for you. I hope it works out well for you. Just be sure to mind your Ps and Qs when you do so, so that you won't further involve unwanted attention from the justice system.

[@kevinstaggs5048]

The cafe needs two signs. 1)Police not welcome here. 2)This property protected by Smith & Wesson. Problem solved. People need to stop relying on government so much anyway. Not to mention the fact that by the time the police arrive the damage is done.

[@kpopfan674]

Your comment has proven why you shouldn't be a cop and it's the attitude of most cops. Just like you would, they choose not to do their jobs based on someone's personal choices. Unprofessional and undeserving of a badge.

[@charlietango9373]

Yes there are good individuals in the police department but they don't do enough when they see a fellow officer acting unconstitutional. The good officers have to police the bad officers. Otherwise you don't have a good police force.😑

[@meahdahlgren5875]

Right

[@BillyGoat32]

Honestly while it’s the businesses right it’s definitely a bad business model. I see a lot of people saying the police won’t show up if the coffee shop were to call them but that’s not true even slightly. The police would still show up and do their jobs. The coffee shop would just look like a bunch of hippocratiques. Not gunna lie I do hope this raises bad publicity for the coffee shop and they are forced to close.

[@Vgp-rp4iu]

I agree but unfortunately this is Oakland California so it will probably get more business because of the type of people that live there and how liberal it is.

[@jasbarsoph]

Financially it will suffer. Decent people won’t go near this place.

[@ronvitug4641]

When is their grand closing

[@1monstrshop]

That's what the 2nd Amendment is for !!! Self preservation !!! Cop show up after the crime is committed !!!

[@dirtyfingernails3800]

Glenn Takamine absolutely I laugh everytime I see the comment,"Who are they gonna call if they get robbed ?" uhh nobody their gonna pull the gun out out from behind the counter and blow that piece off shits head off.

[@samgallant4292]

dirty fingernails i know seeing all the comments in here lol all i see is a bunch of cowards, pussies, bitches that need the pigs to hold their hands with everything they do!.....truly pathetic!

[@NotSure876]

Sam Gallant you’re damn right, fucking cowards

[@jaylair6366]

Bob Dylan said it best, "...the cops don't need you, and, man, they expect the same."

[@klazebillwalker7677]

There is more than just coffee coming out of that outhouse!!!!!

[@NotSure876]

Hopefully dead cops

[@fa2359]

“Majority of officers are good individuals “ but the ones in the cafe were from the minority

[@jabba0975]

FTP, and their apologists to. "All they do is harm." Damn straight. What is there to talk about? This coffee shop is a breath of fresh air. God bless!

[@frankfacts6207]

good policy - for officer safety

[@jose1martin]

It’s their right! They have right to refuse service. That includes spig!

[@josephspinello8989]

It's okay...... Next time when they are being robbed.....don't call the police

[@FledMendota]

I call Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson. And it's amazing how fast they arrive too. "When you need the police right this second they're only 20 minutes away."

[@jonmoore1981]

They have the right and alot of people are anti cop

[@andrealegg2527]

That Baker had the right to refuse that gay couple and still got taken to court and called all the names under the sun. Where do you stop, if shops have a right to refuse service to groups like that. One wont serve the police, other wont serve gays, other transsexuals, or blacks. Where do you stop with that??

[@jonmoore1981]

It should be a individual choice me I accept gay people but dislike trans if I had a store I would refuse service to antifa and people that support them

[@larryneiderhiser148]

Talk about what! The staff advised him at the get go that they would not serve him. So this letter seems a like threat to the owner. Come on in and talk or I will come and see you.

[@jimk654]

This policy will work until they have a problem there they can't handle. Then the LEO's should just not respond since their not wanted there.. If that happened then they would be crying no one came.

[@charlessmith6412]

Totally agree with you on this. But I would add that the Fire Department and EMS should stand with their brothers in blue and not respond to that location, either.

[@josefino72]

The thing cops need is to be hopped up on caffeine.

[@jerryleewoodward7064]

know there dead wrong close there doors

[@dobbins2550]

What would they do if someone tried to rob them or did rob them?

[@berndscheffler9437]

In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED A tragedy in Florida unfolded Wednesday afternoon when a psychotic former student terrorized a high school and the nation as he walked into the school and began shooting and killing students. The terrorist shooter killed 17 people. It is no surprise that the hashtag #GunReformNow is already trending on Twitter as politicians and advocacy groups alike-like every time before-begin milking this tragedy for their political agenda. Sadly, most people who call for gun control to realize what that actually means-only the government has the guns.Every time a lunatic, who is usually on some form mind-altering pharmaceutical, goes on a shooting rampage, the do-gooders in Washington, with the aid of their citizen flocks, take to the TV and the internet to call for disarming the American people. The citizens who call for themselves and their neighbors to be disarmed, likely think no deeper than the shallow speeches given by the political blowhards, designed to appeal to emotion only. They do not think of what happens during and after the government attempts to remove guns from society. They also completely ignore the fact that criminals do not obey laws and making guns illegal would have zero effect on criminals possessing guns. In the perfect statist world in which only the government has guns, we’re told that crime rates would plummet, people wouldn’t be murdered, gun violence would be brought to its knees, and a disarmed heaven on Earth would ensue. But how effective would disarming the citizens actually be at preventing gun violence, while at the same time keeping guns in the hands of government? One simple way to determine the outcome would be to compare mass shootings in America with those killed by police. It is entirely too easy to compare all senseless murders carried out by the state to those carried out by citizens, so we will zoom in with a microscope. However, just as a point of reference, in the 20th Century alone, governments were responsible for 260,000,000 deaths worldwide. That number is greater than all deaths from illicit drug use, STD’s, Homicides, and Traffic Accidents - combined. Now, on to the micro-comparison. According to a comprehensive database of all American mass shootings that have taken place since 1982, constructed by Mother Jones, there have been exactly 816 deaths attributed to mass shootings that have taken place on American soil. As Mother Jones notes, in their database, they exclude shootings stemming from more conventional crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. Other news outlets and researchers have published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings may be useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at the distinct phenomenon of mass shootings-from the firearms used to mental health factors and the growing copycat problem. If we were to compare the 816 citizens killed in mass shootings to citizens killed by police in the same time frame, the comparison would be off the charts. So, for the sake of simplicity, we will compare all of the mass shooting deaths in the last 35 years, to the number of citizens killed by police since the beginning of last year. Already, in 2018, American police have killed 153 people. When we add that to 1,189 people killed by police in 2017, that number is 1,342. This number is set to increase by one, on average, every 8 hours. When comparing the total number of mass shootings over the last 35 years to just the last 14 months of police killings the ratio is 1.6 to 1, citizens killed by cops vs. citizens killed in mass shootings. That is a massive difference. The comparison is staggering and should shock the conscience. But to truly get a perspective, lets go back three years and compare all of the citizens killed by cops since the beginning of 2015 to the number of mass shooting deaths. Since 2015, cops in America have killed 3,733 citizens. In a time period that is less than one-tenth the amount of time it took mass shooters to kill 816 people, cops have killed nearly 5 times as many citizens. As the blowhards spew their nonsense about grabbing guns from law-abiding citizens and those in government demand action, all of these people conveniently ignore the giant pink elephant in the living room - cops in America are killing citizens at an alarming rate! Ironically enough, those calling for taking guns from citizens are often times the ones most critical of police killings. How, exactly, they rationalize disarming the citizens and having only police, who kill far more people than gun owners, be the sole possessors of guns, is a mystery. Indeed, Radley Balko sums up the mental gymnastics of both parties perfectly in regard to the distorted realities held as “truth.” Radley Balko @radleybalko Red: “We need guns to protect us from the government. Also, it is unpatriotic to second-guess when armed government employees kill people.” Blue: “The government has a history of racism and oppression. Guns are instruments of death. Only government employees should have guns.” 9:56 AM - Nov 9, 2017 3,382 1,786 people are talking about this In the United States, the overall homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000 among the citizens. Thanks to independent watchdog groups like KilledByPolice.net, we have a total number of citizens killed by police. As noted above, last year, police killed 1,189 citizens. Given that America has roughly 765,000 sworn police officers, that means the police-against-citizen kill rate is more than 145 per 100,000. The police kill rate is nearly 30 times that of the average citizen, yet somehow people still call for disarming citizens and say nothing about the police. And no, the citizens are not becoming more violent. In fact, humanity is at its safest time in history-ever-and, in spite of the lunatic terrorists shooting up public places, violent crimes as well as all crime continues to drop, significantly. The next time your friends try to tell you that citizens should be disarmed, tell them what that really means; they only want government, who has a history of racism and violence, who kill indiscriminately, with zero accountability, and far more often, to be the ones with guns.

[@funnyblog100]

@@berndscheffler9437 First of all there is no such thing as 450%. That is not a real statistic because you cannot go higher than 100%. Also how many of those citizens were criminals who had confrontations with police. Also you didn't cite any real sources in fact the only one you have is a website that is clearly biased and holds no value. Also school shootings are not that common. Also where the hell did you even get this statistic? Proof or get the fuck out.

[@NotSure876]

funnyblog100 you are a fucking idiot

[@NotSure876]

rock view well said, fuck the police, never call or assist police, tell them everywhere they go they’re not wanted

[@jasbarsoph]

funnyblog100 he cut and pasted a load of garbage and still could not answer the question, He’s the very person who would be crying on the phone looking for the police when he sees someone suspicious eyeing up his precious possessions.

[@digitalmagic6651]

The more I think about it, this coffee shop is up to no good and does not want the cops to walk in when they are doing some thing against the law.

[@t.f.6812]

If cops can't go there, if I were there I would make it a point not to go there.

[@theiran]

And when your shop is broken into, these same cops will take their time getting to you and give as little help as possible. Actions have consequences.

[@craigford4518]

I support the coffee shop owner! Just think about. I can get a job there and not have my civil liberties violated by the Dogs!

[@franksanz1044]

Ok criminal

[@russs7574]

I'm sensing some Thug Vibes here.

[@ericaprice8438]

Every right to to refuse service but you better not need to call the cops

[@jerryleewoodward7064]

know you have too serve everybody unless there bad people than the law will remove them

[@rd6474]

Rather have a bunch of cops at my place than people with dangerous agendas. Talk to neighbors and not cops? Funny.... call your neighbor when your being assaulter or robbed. Who commits the crimes?

[@constantinejones1676]

Would the management of this establishment call the police if they were being robbed, maybe they'd call the local thugs for protection

[@b1bo840]

his taxes pays the police, not the local thugs... stupid!!!

[@LakyshiaTex-Ann]

Well, then it would probably be handled in 1/2 of the time. && Completed correctly, unbiased regardless of race upon arrival. Significantly a far better alternative😊

[@morgannield5996]

To all the bootlickers, jokes on you. As of August 10, 2020 they are still in business with a 4.4 out of 5 rating on Google maps and tons of good reviews. ACAB

[@shanebethune1266]

Good for them

[@killingerk]

alright let me get this straight they have the right refuse service to anyone in the community now just imagine the store opens says they won't serve black people or Chinese people Japanese people let's see how pissed they will be imagine a store open in the US where everyone's Freedom everyone should be treated equally said no black people. when people do this it feels like we're going back in the past

[@monicarichardson2086]

Not about race, it's about their job!

[@patrickdecambra2219]

I wouldn't let gang members in my establishment either

[@fareedankrem1426]

PATRICK DeCambra wonder who you’d call if your house got burgled or you were attacked ( touch wood )

[@patrickdecambra2219]

Fareed Ankrem I know who to call I don't need to call the cops

[@samgallant4292]

ya know what i would do in that situation? i would sit in my shop through the night and wait till they came back and i would deal with their ass myself! that is what having a set of balls is about instead of being a little bitch pig caller on every little thing! grow a set for god sake's your pathetic!

[@michaelvalencia9826]

PATRICK DeCambra oh but if you do that they'd be cryin discrimination.double standard!

[@NotSure876]

Fareed Ankrem a friend, idiot

[@crosales8184]

Ridiculous. When they get robbed, I hope they don't call the police. What a shitty business.

[@robertbrock4204]

I hope somebody robs this coffee shop. It would be funny to see who they'd call.

[@williamsullivan4250]

Lol the shotgun or pistol will take care of it

[@quackysackify]

So the police can show up and beat up the owner? It's happened before. Fucking retarded cops !!!!

[@Zombie_boy86]

Just because you put a badge on doesn’t mean everyone around you has to respect you. It’s their coffee shop they’re rules grow up and go back to handing out parking tickets

[@klazebillwalker7677]

Burn it down!!!

[@kylemckitrick210]

@@AGPArchivist nope I hope someone does burn it down fucking fascist

[@VivaciousVirgO]

Last time I checked, the cops are public servants, not God! Guess now they know how it feels to be shunned and turned away, making reality a bit more clear that they're nothing special. Kudos to that business and its owner!

[@nathanholmquist6077]

Treat it like a Portland business Burn it to the ground let the insurance company handle it better yet make another parking lot!!!!

[@bigdummy9844]

Would love to hear about this coffee shop getting held up & the police refusing to answer the call

[@stardaddyo9]

The owner probably keeps a big sawed-off under the counter because he knows the cops will be slow in responding.

[@bigdummy9844]

@Tyler Wilson read my comment carefully. Where exactly did I say anything about cops stopping a robbery? I'll quote the last sentence; the police refuse to answer the call". What planet do you live on?

[@b1bo840]

@@bigdummy9844 looks like you're staying true to your profile name 😂. the shop owner is a tax payer scholar, cop salaries are payed from his taxes. cops are public servants, they are not legally bound to refuse service... google it if you have to! 🙄

[@bigdummy9844]

@@b1bo840 because if it's on the internet its gotta be true 😘

[@kevinlockwood7357]

I don't believe they would call them anyway.

[@trudifruty6078]

They have the right to refuse service to anyone, it's their business

[@mayhemjr.803]

True, but that's awfully stupid to ban police

[@llinksamus9177]

What would the coffee shop do if they get robbed! Call the police lol?

[@Montoyos]

Llink samus if they are law abiding citizen they have their 2nd amendment right to bear arms to protect themselves nobody needs police they aren’t responsible for you in the first place your safety is on you when shit it’s the fan and police are min away.

[@EngineersQuest]

@John Smith 👍👍

[@EngineersQuest]

@@Montoyos Nobody, huh?

[@iamergoproxy3476]

So you mean to tell me you can get a coffee shop to face more consequences for something perceived as wrong than a cop who breaks the law? That's bullshit

[@johnnymcneal5914]

The reputation of cops coming in and hurt threatening and harassing is a reputation that is not deserve. Just because I World Cup does this does not mean every officer? Does this, they should be boycotted for this?

[@fulcheroverman5500]

If I own the coffee shop and I didn't want badge carriers in my establishment I see nothing wrong with that. I own it. If there is an element that scares away my business I have a right to tell them I don't want them on my property.

[@andrealegg2527]

And if I have an establishment and I dont want gays or transgenders I assume you dont see nothing wrong with that either ? They got refused not because individually they did something wrong but because they belonged to a group (police) and that is wrong.