Beauty and the Beast Part 2 (With Some Jerk with a Camera!) - Brows Held High

Original upload date: 9/17/2014
Part 2 of Kyle and Tony's look at a tale as old as time. No, still not that one.
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[@ashleylesiak4114]

When the Twilight realization happened I literally audibly yelled "NOOOOOOOO" like Vader at the even of Revenge of the Sith.

[@robbiewalker2831]

+Ashley Lesiak The first time this happened (7:03 - 10:25), I thought it was hilarious. And I still find it funny, because when people think of the Stockholm Syndrome Cliche, and Twilight is more like that than Beauty and the Beast, this, my friend, is irony.

[@MrKite]

I feel like I've learned more about movies and film history from "Brows Held High" than an actual film history class I attended last semester.

[@daelen.cclark]

And collages say KZbin videos aren’t good sources.

[@sorcerersapprentice]

For those of you guys, who want a translation for what Kyle said at the end, he said, "A word to my French-speaking viewers: I apologise for participating in that ridiculous song about such a beautiful country."

[@EndisNi]

Hang on, if the Beast's castle is the Underworld, then this isn't Orpheus and Eurydice as much as it is Hades and Persephone. Now *there's* an antique retelling of the Tale As Old As Time.

[@honeyham6788]

except Hades and Persephone was inspired BY Orpheus and Eurydice. Hades as a figure existed only exclusively as a late-mycenean/Hellenist God. Before him, Zagreus and Poseidon covered the role of ruler of the underworld. But Orpheus? Orpheus existed all the way before pre-Minoan culture. There's a reason any deity in Greece related to the death and rebirth is called an ORPHIC Deity.

[@MaricaAmbrosius]

"Let's assume time is linear." "Things happen in the order in which I perceive them!"

[@BostonMBrand]

The sudden realization that Beauty and the Beast gave way to twilight which gave way to 50 shades of grey is terrifying

[@leedriver7029]

"May the devil himself splatter you with his dung" I have a sudden urge to go learn French now

[@snowcherryleopard]

You do have to admit the artwork in Hunchback along with the score is gorgeous

[@jeniferjoseph9200]

+snowcherryleopard Hunchback and BATB are the best

[@docdave15]

+snowcherryleopard and probably one of the best villain songs of all time.

[@disneydork100]

Hunchback gets SUCH a bad rep. If it weren’t for those stupid gargoyles it would be perfect.

[@jbvader721]

@@disneydork100 "I'm losing to a bird!"

[@dereknight861]

I agree as well as say that Atlantis is getting the praise it deserves these days. The characters are lovable and the scope of adventure is incredible. You really believe it would take an arm, a leg and a WHOLE excursion to find this mythical continent. I’ll admit they should’ve gone with the original opening and saved it for a flashback via nimoy’s character but it doesn’t detract it. Give these directors credit, they still got that touch.

[@swanpride]

I have to disagree about Belle not having an arc. It is very settled, but consider this: Belle wants two things: She wants adventure and she wants a place where she doesn't feel like an outsider. And what does she get? First adventure (as well as the realization that adventure isn't as much fun if you experience it yourself instead of just reading about it) and then a place in which her desire for knowledge and reading is accepted. It is true that she doesn't have a character arc in the sense of her changing during the story. But that is kind of the point. She shouldn't have to change to be accepted. Her personality is fine just how she is.

[@ShayLaLaLooHoo]

So your comment is old and you may have forgotten about it, but I love it. I think that those points are (briefly) addressed in the musical during "A Change in Me." And yeah, Belle didn't need to change, but the Beast did.

[@X_MissMary_X]

Interestingly, I think this point is basically an exact inverse of what they have to say about the beast in Cocteau's version

[@Flowtail]

Huh, good point! I think you could make an argument for both interpretations--like, Ellie in _Up_ had kind of the same arc that you're describing, but the reveal that her relationship with Carl was her adventure is like a more explicit version of this

[@hydrofalls8154]

Yes someones finally get's it.

[@sewthernbelle]

If anything, Belles arc is realizing she doesn't need to change herself (since she was aware people thought she was odd and longed to be accepted for herself whereas Gaston only wanted her because she was beautiful and could be his baby factory and didn't care about her interests or feelings and the Beast loved her for herself. Now I would argue that Disney's animated version actually didn't convey why the Beast fell in love with Belle very well. We the audience know Belle is smart and kind, and selfless. But the relationship was built over the course of one montage and we didn't get to hear one conversation between them as they became friends. (And no I don't count the extended edition with human again.) that's why I have to get a little credit to the live action remake. We got to hear them get to know each other. But if you want a version of Beauty and the Belle where both characters have these arcs and you can see and hear why they're in love with each other, check out the George C. Scott version. It's here on KZbin.

[@Furore2323]

Another one of many terrific bits: That TWILIGHT pastiche. Man, that was brilliant. I had four friends around to watch this together and when they twigged what was happening, there were two spit-takes and a squeal.

[@Dimensioneer88]

"Did Bella get her name from Belle?" No, Stephanie Meyer could have easily named her after Bela Lugosi, the most iconic vampire actor of all time. And her last name is Swann which could be a reference to Swan Lake, whose music plays in Dracula.

[@jbvader721]

I still need to go clear my head.

[@robbiewalker2831]

@@jbvader721 Yeah, the coincidences doesn’t help matters.

[@thegeekclub8810]

6:46 The reason that from what I'm hearing here, the Disney version is better in terms of abusive relationships is because the beast changes. He lets belle go. No emotional manipulation he lets her go at the end of the story. From the clips of the earlier version that I have seen it sounds like the best value spell for the contributions that she makes on his life, such as noticing that he is late. In the Disney version in the end the beast recognizes and what's bell for being a human being. He does not love the contributions that she makes to his life, but the contributions that they make to each other and how they make each other better people. She is not just a Comfort for the beast emotional torment, but a person and the beast treats her like a person. Innoway treating her as a comfort for your self is no better than treating her as an object of beauty. They are both objectifications. And give the Disney version this, The beast never spouts word for word abusive manipulation that actual men in the real world use to keep their partners in abusive relationships in a supposedly romantic moment.

[@lnfreeman]

That Twilight shit was fucking perfection

[@samdragonborn5864]

I've heard of that eye slicing scene and now I've witnessed it Excuse me while I shield my eyes and scream into the void

[@GKMaverick013]

That eye ball btw was in fact a real eye. A dead calf according to the director Luis Buñuel. And it’s just as bad even if you don’t realize that. But hey, least you’re know it’s not a legit human eyeball. Either way...gross :D

[@Inlelendri]

"Things happen in the order I perceive them". That is such an apt way of describing so many people's attitude towards originality and the like. 'I heard of this first, so I'm going to assume that's the original and call everyone else plagiarists without doing any research.'

[@jedimarhwini948]

I have to disagree with Kyle's logic here. I don't feel later adaptations copied Cocteau's ideas as much as they used the same thought processes to guide them in their separate creative processes. It's one thing to look at Belle et la Bete and say, "Let's do that!" It's quite another when both ask "How do we show two people falling on love when one of them is cursed to be a beast?" Sometimes when artists use the same subject matter their responses are similar.

[@PENGUINGIRL1210]

I can't stop laughing at the song about France XD I am a complete Francophile and that is basically my theme song now. I love your videos; they always make me think and smile. I felt a sense of kinship as the Tricolore popped onscreen alongside the monuments

[@theasinclaire52]

The story of Cupid and Psyche reminds me of Beauty and the Beast. It even has two jealous sisters who cause problems.

[@spiraleyes145]

Gotta say I'm kind of shocked that the Brad Bird joke wasn't a Hayao Miyazaki joke. I mean, if anyone defines controlling an animated work all on his own, it's probably Miyazaki, with 11 movies under his belt and all.

[@nothingposted9056]

I think they didn't include him because the theme was mainstream USA vs mainstream French. Including Miyazaki would have been going off topic.

[@its-morbintime]

If he was anywhere near as critically or commercially successful, I could've seen them using Ralph Bakshi for that joke. Mind you, I understand why they picked Brad Bird instead of him. Bird is just way more of a household name and has made movies that the common man would respect way more than if they said "Ralph Bakshi."

[@snoopsq.527]

Don Bluth had Gary Goldman as a co-director for all of his movies so he doesn’t count.

[@Ganychan]

Breton was a snob: all the Surrealists had RULES on how to be surreal! And if you didn't fit them exactly, you weren't part of their clique. Also Breton was arrogant and wrote pompous literature that made no sense, ugh. Cocteau was a dreamer who transcended rules and also a fabulous gay man who I'm sure had to overcome a lot in his time.

[@michaelkemel9711]

Making rules for how to break the rules seems to be a golden way to transform from the counterculture to the stuffy establishment.

[@JktuUekmw]

"Things happen in the order I perceive them!!111"

[@FunFilmFare]

Now I really want to see Disney do their version "The Epic of Gilgmaesh" :D !

[@TonyGoldmark]

Incidentally, the parody songs in this review can be downloaded right here: tony-goldmark.bandcamp.com/album/brows-held-high-beauty-and-the-beast

[@Bedinsis]

Tony Goldmark Who wrote the songs? You, Kyle or both of you?

[@TonyGoldmark]

Well, obviously the songs are parodies of the original Alan Menken/Howard Ashman songs. Both Kyle and I wrote the new lyrics.

[@Bedinsis]

Ah, okay. You did a superb job.

[@fatimagic1365]

8:01 "how long has it been as old as time?" "...what" god this review is a classic. i crack up every time.

[@legendariersgaming]

"and the syndrome's Swedish, or something" LMAO

[@Dimensioneer88]

Fun Fact: Beauty and the Beast The Enchanted Christmas was originally going to feature "Gaston's crazy brother" as the villain and he was gonna be named ... Avenant. Also, it would have been a proper sequel where Avenant uses magic to turn the Prince back into the Beast.

[@nightwingjosh8491]

but belle does go an adventure. sure, it's debatable if living with a beast in his big castle with is furniture/dishes/etc. servants. but belle gets to lead a life just like the books she's read (heck the book she reads in the beginning is a parallel to what later happens to her.

[@jedimarhwini948]

Plus I think marrying royalty makes it a lot easier to get a passport.

[@mayaklast6334]

... you do realize Beauty and Beast takes place in a time which is somewhere between the Middle Ages and the 18th century, right? There is no passport in her future XD Belle will have children and never set a foot outside of the castle's garden ever again. Her life will probably be a lot more stiffling and restrictive than before which makes her 'I want' song really ironic - there is nothing more corseting than being royalty or a married woman and she chose to become both. So yeah... I hope she enjoyed her five minutes of aventures while they lasted ^^...

[@ShayLaLaLooHoo]

...I'm...sorry you feel that way? I mean, this is a fantasy with the barest connection to history, so there's some flex room there. Now that the Prince doesn't look like something one should hunt, they could definitely leave the castle grounds. Reassembling a country is likely a huge responsibility; I mean, there are probably a ton of foreign affairs to sort out, with the ruling system out of commission for a decade, so the Crown Prince and Princess (BELLE) will DEFINITELY be travelling to other countries, learning about other cultures, meeting new people, and perhaps...having adventures?

[@evecampbell3069]

@@ShayLaLaLooHoo Replying to a 2 year old comment. There's an exact fanfiction of that. Has magic, but it's about the fact that Beast really can't marry Belle. He's a prince and she's a commoner. I'll try and find the link to it.

[@afterdinnercreations936]

One of the directors of the Disney B&tB went on to direct cinematic masterpiece, "The Bobblehead Movie"

[@taralucent1219]

Did anyone else notice that Kyle made a critique about Disney's Beauty and the Beast being directed by two people, but La Belle et la Bete was also directed by two people.... Jean Cocteau and Rene Clement.

[@williamhanekom9882]

1:24 The fantasy of beauty and the beast...now at *pizza hut.* XD

[@nightwingjosh8491]

hey! i like hunchback and atlantis!

[@Ganychan]

Let's say that Hunchback has a problem of tone, as well as being a butcherization of a classic, and Atlantis had the potential to be awesome but storywise never gets there.

[@ChickenGeorgeClooney]

Disney's Hunchback didn't butcher it, Chaney's Hunchback did. He was the one who turned the story into just something about a Hunchback rather than a story about the Cathedral. Disney just made it a bit more child friendly and added fucking awesome songs.

[@danielwilson8604]

@@Ganychan i felt it got there. could just be me

[@believingisseeing5517]

I adore La Belle et Le Bete! It's an absolute work of art. However, the same can be said of Disney's Beauty and the Beast. They are both equally exquisite, but in their own ways. There is just as much stunning imagery, orchestration, angles, and cinematography in the animated take. I am a hard core film buff and have seen most of what Kyle references. Yet I feel he's disregarding Beauty and the Beast and The Hunchback of Notre Damn simply because they're animated and mainstream. The character of Claude Frollo told the way he was in the Disney version is magnificent! Look at the scene Hellfire alone. The imagery is lush. The metaphors are brilliant. He sees her dancing in the fire place. There are so many volumes to that. I could go on forever. I know it is very different from Victor Hugo's novel, but another breath taking moment is when Quasimodo saves Esmeralda. I don't understand why one masterpiece has to be knocked down and run over by the other. They are both incredible and we are lucky to have them both in this lifetime to experience over and over again, finding more depth each time.

[@willlyon7129]

9:00 I liked how you explain how every culture has their own variations of simailar stories you are familar with. Like Cinderella stories from China, Egpyt, German, and Native American.

[@FirstLast-pm4rh]

Will Lyon i just learned that as far as people know, Cinderella began on my family's island Lesbos. I know lesbianism and the etymology of the term are attributed to the ancient matriarchal tribes of warriors there but hell I think the Cinderella fact is just as important and I so I can't believe I hadn't ever heard it. Well, ok, I'll admit it's likely not the birthplace of the idea of rags to riches that probably goes far into prerecorded history...well...nah I won't go there. But yea as far as the first one where a girl from lower classes marries up and the vehicles thru which it occurs include a gift giver from nowhere (eagle tho not fairy) and shoes before it traveled and changed as it was retold in Egypt and then throughout the continent and N. Africa. I just realized, "and he gives a damn why!?" Sorry but I am glad u reminded me for what it's worth.

[@gregorsamsa9264]

13:58 also Cocteau was a fascist sympathizer while Breton was a diehard communist.

[@gregorsamsa9264]

+Noah Blank You kind of left that one out of your narrative.

[@CurlyAndNerdy101]

Mother's used to tell this story to their daughters when facing an arranged marriage to comfort theme.

[@gozerthegozarian9500]

The "woman" having her eyeball sliced in half is actually a (dead) cow, by the way. It's a classic example of camera trickery. Look closely, you can even see the fur!

[@ClaudiaRichmann]

I am so glad glad I rewatched this bit of brilliance. Still hilarious and relevant after 8 years. Bravo Kyle, Jerk and the team.

[@christheleavittman7080]

Technically almost 10 years

[@ManOutofTime913]

I fucking love how it went day-for-night as soon as you brought up that story that need not be mentioned.

[@s.patrickcunningham6851]

Can I just say, I am so happy this exists. It's easy to forget that there is ridiculousness in the world and that sometimes it is more rejuvenating than water in a desert to stumble upon it. Wish I could subscribe twice, guys. What a refreshing watch!

[@sorcerersapprentice]

Also, as a "fun" fact, apparently Meyer's favourite Disney movie is Beauty and the Beast and Belle is the Disney Princess that she can relate the most to. :/ (I hate my life sometimes...)

[@sashawallace1916]

'Do you like my new smoking jacket? Thank I'll be here all your life.' I bloody love that.

[@brandyloutherback9288]

You forgot Cupid and Psyche.

[@rbck8826]

IT'S EROS AND PSYCHE

[@HyaenusDominae]

I love how in the French song, ilNeige just don't give a fuck.

[@SpiritKitten]

IlNeige is just too cool for any of this!

[@A-Saxy-Bard]

Oh god every time I see the eye scene from Un Chien Andalou I flinch.

[@inferno9714]

Would it make you feel any better if I told you the calf they used for the eye slice was already dead?

[@Foxpawed]

I can't bring myself to actually watch it. Eye scream stuff wigs me the fuck out. Even if its animal related, I had a school trip where we watched someone dissect an animal's eyeball and just fuuuuuuck *shudders*

[@Ganychan]

I know! I knew it was coming when I saw the ants AHHHHH!

[@sarahmcmann5253]

Christopher Greene me too

[@jbvader721]

+Bryant Langmuir No. That makes it worse.

[@Unownshipper]

Part for me! Part for me! I could play the pot of tea!

[@jordanwillner1436]

Belle DOES have a arc! She has to learn to fall for the beast!

[@artsman412]

0:31. Oh my God, I Remember that attraction. I saw it years ago when I was little. It was so long ago I thought I was just making it up for a moment. Thanks Tony, now I know I'm not crazy!

[@obiwankenobi9141]

Well that’s why it’s amazing, he made what he wanted to see not what other people wanted to see

[@ChickenGeorgeClooney]

I DEMAND YOU EXPLAIN YOUR SCORN OF HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME!

[@t3ras74]

Jackson DeStefano I think it would just be the exact same copy of this video except it compares the 1939 hunchback film with the Disney one since Disney pulled a lot from that.

[@starbird3939]

Most likely the gargoyles and odd silly moments

[@rbck8826]

It has major tone problems. But the music is AMAZING.

[@DodgerOfZion]

I revisit this review from time to time. Ven continues to be awesome.

[@KyleKallgrenBHH]

Ven might be the only reason I could get videos made. This channel wouldn’t exist without the help they gave me for years. I love Ven dearly. They’re going through a tough time right now

[@DodgerOfZion]

@@KyleKallgrenBHH They are, and I wish for them nothing but love, light, and healing in these coming days.

[@cerownica]

I saw this movie in primary school It is wonderful, it's not that artsy fartsy. Well it is a little but when you watch it at 7 you don't care, it's just magical. (also gossip gossip when this movie was made cocteau was in a relationship with the beast/avenant actor or so I was told when I was little)

[@sycastells1212]

"See how I glitter"

[@isabelr3467]

This may be the greatest parody movie I have ever seen

[@HBarnill]

May the Notre Dame Rest In Peace today.

[@mikethegrunty5968]

Bella swan isn't named from belle. Bella as in Bella Lugosi and Swan as in swan lake, the song that played in the opening credits in Dracula . God I hate Stephanie Meyer

[@kyletowers9662]

Anastasia Steele make Bella Swan a sensible name

[@wallacecrowmanproject9235]

That's the only interesting thing about the twilight books.

[@Rikku147]

Mike White well no she's not. Stephenie Meyer has said she's never seen or read anything vampire related, and I believe her. Isabella is just the name she was saving for her daughter.

[@ShayLaLaLooHoo]

I'm pretty certain that it was just Meyer trying to make a meaningful name - "Bella" because, yeah, it means beauty, and "Swan" due to their association with grace (I believe that Bella actually commented on the irony of that and her clumsiness.) However, it does come off as a clunky-sounding name.

[@Flowtail]

@@ShayLaLaLooHoo I dunno, I kinda like the name--it's a very noticably fictional name, but Twilight isn't, ya know, about being realistic so the protagonist having a name like that is understandable. Plus, making up names is kind of a hard skill to cultivate

[@YontheSwordofChaos]

I'm French and I just can't stop listening to Kyle speaking the language of Molière. Your accent is so bad… Yet strangely awesome!!!!

[@mrmadness2699]

So, the US wants to know: is "Oh like they care," a true assessment of French opinion of that last song or not?

[@YontheSwordofChaos]

Meh. Most people don't give a f*** really. XD We're always the first in line to talk shit about americans, so it's only fair they do the same.

[@tatehildyard5332]

+MrMadness Well, a majority of us Americans don't learn French until high school (universite to you) if at all. I did not put an accent on because I can't put accents on my phone.

[@mrmadness2699]

+Tate Hildyard, I'm American too!

[@mrmadness2699]

My apologies, I realized only afterward that I posted on the same day as the Bastille Day attack. Mea Culpa

[@Remerdre]

To reassure you, I can tell you that Twilight’s Bella did not get her name from this story. I won’t horrify you with the details of the interview where the author explained the name. Just rest assured the reason had nothing to do with good literature, just like her own writing. The more you know!

[@asocksual4910]

I really like this beauty and the beast two-parter, but the joke about twilight being the antichrist kinda dates it like guys, it's bad but far from the most heinous work of genre fiction ever to grace the YA shelves...

[@jbvader721]

Seriously, Lindsay Ellis (formally the Nostalgia Chick) did a 25-minute video essay on that very subject.

[@ryandowney8743]

Ha! I've seen this review several times already, and I just noticed that the "Brad Bird is to us as we are to the amoeba" is a reference to the Observers in MST3K. (Unless that was a reference to something else I didn't realize)

[@gregorsamsa9264]

13:14 Satie wrote the music. God I love Satie.

[@patrioticglasses6436]

Magnifique. J'adore le chanson à le fin. C'est tellement good.

[@MasonThe2nd]

17:19 The origin of Tony's YT icon

[@tastiGMmaster2099]

The Twilight realization joke is still my favorite joke in this whole review. ...and my own sadistic delight at people's realization that the most famous, critically acclaimed, and pro-feminist of Disney's animated movies is connected to...that franchise.

[@pinkwings8036]

The folktale is basically inescapable

[@spauldinjg]

La France te remercie, CitoyenOan! Que les artistes pensent à eux-même avant de penser à ce que le public aime, Sacrebleu! Orphée: "Le public m'aime" L'Ancien Poète: "Il est bien le seul."

[@pinkcloudsnightlightbell]

The fact that I wanna do some research on how La Belle et La Bete can be looked @ by queer theorists makes me 1) have all the admiration for how inspiring yall are especially u and 2) wish going to art school (or any school) was free lol

[@OnDavidsBrain]

7:20 SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SYOLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

[@ibahart3771]

19.08 to see Kyle trying not to laugh after he gets booped. Might be my favourite bit.

[@docdave15]

"Did Bella get her name from Belle?" I always thought that was a reference to Bela Lugosi.

[@cartoonsomething1627]

Judging by the intelectual level of the book, I'd say it's just a MarySue name meaning "beauty", and any relationship with cult cinema is coincidential.

[@starbird3939]

Nope. Meyer never read any vampire literature. She just liked the name Isabella

[@hickorymccay2994]

Nikodimos Triaridis Love your reasoning, but no.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

Her name's Isabella...which makes it that much more more ironic that she drools over Wuthering Heights and thinks it's soooo romantic. (Remember what happened to the Isabella in that novel...)

[@HCC788]

Fantastic. Fantastic.

[@matthewrosenkoetter6351]

"The worst thing ever made" (fifty shades of grey enters the room) allow me to introduce myself. Fifty shades of Grey took that title away from twilight

[@jbvader721]

Fifty Shades indeed came along and said "Hold my butt plugs."

[@eamonndeane587]

365 Days is banging at the Door.... Pun not intended....

[@julielal]

I'm not sure where the myth that Jerry Lewis is a huge star in France comes from but it's just not true. He had success here in the 60s, my grandmother loved him, but now he's actually pretty much forgotten. Also we don't wear berets.

[@KidSnivy69]

Those is may not be true, but it's like certain stereotypes in the states. Texas isn't the only place with cowboys, not everyone in New York is a jerk and not everyone in Louisiana isn't full of incestuous relatives. It's stuff regularly made fun of that just aren't true.

[@tatehildyard5332]

But we all can agree Florida is the dumping ground of humanity.

[@KidSnivy69]

Tate Hildyard Oh big time! Florida (outside pf Walt Disney World) is crap!

[@FruityGroovy]

"How old is this tale?" "As old as time." "How long has it been as old as time?" "....what?"

[@vrixphillips]

I mean, didn't Cocteau [most unfortunately, since I adore his films] also warrant being called "the worst" by Breton because he was pro-Fascist even despite being friends with people who were in France to escape Spanish Fascism? I mean there might be some debate about that, but I've mostly only ever heard that he was pro-Fash. Apparently he was even cozy with the French fascist Celine.

[@sewthernbelle]

Now I want to know what you thought of the French live action remake :)

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

What did you think of the 80s TV series? True story, I took a pair of 4th graders to see La Belle et la Bete at the local art house theater right after its restoration. They loved it, and one of them begged my copy of the video off me.

[@oaesiir5676]

Tony came in hot with that burn about artsy people liking foreign films more because they assume they have more artistic merit than American films because there's an idea that America doesn't have a high culture which is just the farthest thing from the truth. It's as far from the truth as the idea Europeans somehow are more aristocratic in manner and taste than Americans.

[@gregorsamsa9264]

1:11 What about Hayao Miyazaki?

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

Say how come there aren’t subtitles on this part? I just realized that.

[@repulser93]

1:09 - *sees Incredibles 2* Yeah, don't think Brad belongs on that pedestal anymore. 6:54 - I feel like Lindsay would've had a good counterargument for that. Love this review.

[@jbvader721]

Well, Lindsay Ellis did do a video about "Beauty and the Beast" and how it isn't- I repeat ISN'T a "Stockholm Syndrome" story. Oh, and a video defending "Twilight".

[@marshallwindsor3463]

Love the be our guest paridy

[@hannamills1985]

I want both of them to review the live-action ones together that would be good

[@robodragonn9506]

I'm gonna have to check out La Belle et La Bête now. I'm intrigued.

[@NACHOXXX4]

Kyle is so much better than the rest of his crew

[@timrob12]

Oooh. So, this is where Tony Goldmark got his profile picture from? Glad I figured that out.

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

Now name a major Beauty and the Beast story where the woman is the monster.

[@minnie7453]

Lmao the twilight music. This is amazing content.

[@gregorsamsa9264]

0:19 that's hardly fair. The Coen brothers aren't one person, an they're great directors.

[@timrob12]

I only now noticed that Tony was reading a EuroDisney brochure during the French song.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

Correction: the magic mirror was in the original fairy tale.

[@timrob12]

Also, why do people keep calling the fries "french fries" when WE, the people in Belgium, invented the fries.

[@L1701]

timrob12 "French Fries" rolls off the tongue better than "Belgian Fries".

[@Inlelendri]

It's only in America and Canada it's 'french fries', so there's that. Secondly, wikipedia has the explanation that "In the early 20th century, the term "French fried" was being used in the sense of "deep-fried" for foods like onion rings or chicken". So...that might be the reason?

[@fermintenava5911]

Because other call them "Pommes Frittes", and that's french?!

[@codyssmith73]

Because the Belgian Army, whom the food was associated with, spoke French..... and they were fried, hence "French Fries"...... and this was during WW1, so both the US & Canadian Army's took the name and the food back with them. Mind you, not all historians agree with this source on the name, but it makes the most sense.

[@roarkthehalf-orc6598]

I love il neige's face at the end

[@ninaavins4887]

I think Bela was named after Bela Lugosi. The whole vampire thing, after all.

[@Vohalika]

Breaking News: Kyle is a SanSan shipper!

[@ep8246]

*he is sparkling*

[@Tacom4ster]

I like that arrow cut

[@NatAnn64]

11:52 I loved your joke so much, I turned it into a meme. giphy.com/gifs/disney-beauty-and-the-beast-belle-THyp90NbUzjCU Although - to be perfectly honest, this whole review is spotless. A master work of friendship.

[@keikoscorner4176]

Why have I not been watching BBH more? Je t'aime!

[@gregorsamsa9264]

1:17 Kyle, what do you think of Fantasia and Bambi?

[@kathrynblakeley9823]

Does anyone know what Kyle is saying in french at the end all I got is "Excuse I'm sorry for this spectacle to ridicule..."

[@vincentmagnin9082]

Why heterosexual cisgender relationships ? I can tell you this movie has learnt a thing or two about myself. The socially awkward little girl who reads to much, flees the normal love and normal future awaiting her, falls into an underworld, lives a nightmare getting to know and love the strangeness inside as it is... and in the end, the beast ashamed of its ugly body becomes a prince who gets true love, because he can love himself and the hero he has become to himself. I liked this ending too much, long before knowing I would one day be this handsome, loving and well-loved man :)

[@gregorsamsa9264]

+Vincent Magnin The reason it's considered to represent heterosexual cisgender relationships is because the masculine is depicted as wild, uncontrolled and violent, while the feminine is the beauty and civility that tames the raging beast within.

[@vincentmagnin9082]

Noah Blank It could also be about a strong, assured, stable man taming a wild fiery female by bringing her to the civilized ways of marriage/motherhood (you would find so much black and white movies about that. And I suppose there are some today but that's not my kind of movie, so I really can't tell. Also, they would have to be somewhat more subtle.) Anyway, with the spirit qualities of one, the body aptitudes of the other, and the idea of a mirror at the center, with a plunge in a world of dark mysteries that screames "discovering your own unconscious in dreams" louder than Alice in Wonderland... I'm willing to consider all options. The raging beast could indeed be within.