Oasis Big Problem With NIRVANA

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[@commandercaleb_]

W

[@JustLikeHeaven77]

Nearvana?

[@robdryan]

Pretty sure the title was a sarcastic jab at how the media was putting out articles on how Kurt was depressed, dark and brooding all the time.

[@hetnieuwenormaal]

And he sure proved them wrong

[@briankennedy1192]

Exactly lad. Plain examples of how British and American sarcasm or dark humour doesn't always translate.

[@joen8529]

@@hetnieuwenormaal Considering Courtney did it, no he didn’t.

[@jessewallace666]

@@joen8529 someone had to be the Courtney killed Kurt guy….😂

[@hetnieuwenormaal]

@@joen8529 I guess Yoko broke up the Beatles too eh?

[@EngineerOfVaul]

We needed both. Kurt's words made us feel heard and understood. Noel's words gave us hope and helped us realize we've got a long way to go. I love them both immensely.

[@radidov5333]

agreed, like yin and yang ..we had them both with Gallagher and Cobain

[@위니-g6y]

Well said !

[@dreal500]

Exactly!

[@laiooliveirabrum5188]

Perfect!

[@oakleyorbit]

I actually hated Kurt for all that he did but this comment changed my outlook, well done mate I see the importance!

[@TokiWartooth14]

It was a joke title and the song is more or less about love. And it was never a hit, it was a b side.

[@deafphantom865]

A joke that didnt age well

[@shea8294]

He didn’t know Courtney would take him literally

[@KPac1234]

glamorizing suicide was done throughout the in utero record, they’re a pop rock group at this point doing that smh

[@jurgisvalancauskas4006]

You talk like Kurt didn't kill himself. Read his diaries (they are published). He was on the way to suicide all the time from his teenage years to his eventual death. He was suicidal

[@SWOLDER]

That song is not about love …..

[@gavnoroblivious7931]

Kurt was right. Noel is right Both beautiful

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

good take

[@user-xm3wd8tz6d]

This was my thought as well and I didn’t know he thought this at the time.

[@Naeshabby]

Kurt was a brooding teenage girl

[@7stitches]

“The song title was a joke” proceeds to kill himself a year later

[@sorryimsosad]

And people be like “BUT HE SAID IT WAS A JOKE” Yeah and I’m sure we all would be totally honest about a very sad and scary feeling w a tv interviewer

[@imwastingmytimeonthis677]

he didn’t kill himself Courtney did there a video showing very clear proof she hired someone to kill him it’s sad and scary how gullible people are 😩

[@RavenBlaze420]

Kurt was murdered. There is to much evidence to murder. Then again you believe the narrative's and not the facts.

[@texisthereason]

ANNNNDDDD I SWEAAARRR THAT IIIII DONTTTT HAVE. A GUNNNNNN. He bought a gun a week before he died and took the bullets with him to an airport. The driver didn't return them back to his house. Courtney's hit man Allen wrench had to buy new to kill him since they weren't there when he did the job.

[@valentinoletcher]

Bro kurt didn't suicide. He was murdered.

[@ye6973]

“Leave forever” and a picture of Liam to start. Great vid

[@johncollins5552]

Genius clickbait, we couldn't let it pass Could We😂

[@KROKIACK]

Like why bother making this short if they can't be bothered to make it properly?

[@sambell1182]

Ahh yes "leave forever" my favourite Oasis song.

[@untissify]

😂

[@patmarek1222]

😅

[@samtomo69]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 LEAVEEEE FOREVERR

[@kennethlauer4735]

Ooooasis

[@alfonsoyanez4953]

“Leave forever” then “Don’t go away”

[@Skinnyfish09]

The fact Noel knew that B-Side shows he was really a fan and it inspired him to write an epic A-Side.

[@jodiestonehill9318]

Nailed it.

[@zarni000]

dont know if you are aware but anybody who was even remotely involved in music would know pretty much everything of nirvana's that came out. they were that big.

[@nemesis8626]

​@@zarni000 yeah but that song didn't even come out. Only on in uteros 30th anniversary edition decades after the albums original release and Kurts death, it was due to be on the pennyroyal tea single but never did because Kurt died so it didn't get put out

[@Black-lq2pb]

@@nemesis8626 It was first released in November 1993 as the first track on The Beavis and Butt-Head Experience compilation album which peaked at number 5 on the Billboard 200

[@davidchez513]

​@@nemesis8626Wrong, it released in the Beavis and Butthead Experience on November 1993

[@electricmaster23]

They were both right. That’s what makes them both legendary artists.

[@SuperBroonie]

😂 yeah at least Nirvana understood dynamics and meter. Oasis songs are nearly all the same speed Which makes Noel a crap composer really he hit a formula and never detracts.

[@electricmaster23]

that's ridiculous and not at all what I was saying. "Live Forever" is one of the best songs ever written.

[@jamie8037]

​@@SuperBroonie absolute bollocks

[@matty-mm5vo]

@@SuperBroonie please shut up

[@Felis-Concolor]

@@SuperBroonieNoel is all about, “positivity maaan” yet don’t ask him to play certain songs or he’ll curse you out and threaten to murder you. Very positive.

[@Sy21124]

I don’t think I’d call that song a hit

[@timhazelwonder151]

I would

[@gummyerin]

Live forever is not a hit , its a master piece

[@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek]

​@@gummyerin😂😂

[@ricmcguigan1635]

That whole Beavis and Butthead cd was pretty good.

[@haughteyify]

Biblical

[@adamkidson4444]

He is right there is no value in self pity at all

[@melissahelen88]

but there is value in acknowledging and understanding one's vast array of emotion

[@Kelvinack]

​@@melissahelen88Yes and Kurt Cobain, a man who shot himself after not even living for more than 30 years, perfectly exemplifies that 😂

[@hollyw1dd1s]

@@Kelvinackoh shucks he actually had problems and not a perfect life like you

[@Kelvinack]

@@hollyw1dd1s He had a complicated life (he was prone to making it worse for himself than it was) and certainly a vast array of emotions amassed through it, but shooting heroin, reclusing yourself and finally putting a shotgun in your mouth is definitely not "acknowledging and understanding one's vast array of emotion. And lastly, I would like to ask you keep my personal business (of which you have not a single small sancorn of an idea) out of your mouth, I know you internet addicts like to use it in debates but it's not doing you any favours

[@Appo4]

Neither side is right nor wrong, it's creative freedom, and people can have opinions that are different from someone else

[@BabyHaylien]

Both are real. Both are valid. I can see the beauty in both

[@stupidnicks]

The first pic is Liam 😂

[@arinthia827]

Fr how is no one else noticing that

[@skuLLface_firec0ck]

It’s Noel

[@j-xmas]

Not sure how they didn’t spot that 🙄

[@leegreene5148]

know ur potato 😆

[@AceBambam]

same thing😂

[@RayFromLUCKYSHADOW]

That's Liam in the beginning, not Noel. But I imagine they both felt the same. I remember when Oasis hit here in the States. They really were a breath of fresh air. Rock music had become so relentlessly downbeat, at least lyrically. Obviously for Kurt, the depression was real. I mean, he did what he did, so he clearly wasn't bullshitting. But for many, the dark lyrics were just bandwagon-jumping. Dudes who a few years prior were imitating Poison and Motley Crue were now writing songs about how much they hated themselves and how lost they were. 😂 It had gotten stale. So many of them acted embarrassed by fame, and they made a point of never appearing excited about anything. Then the Gallagher brothers came along, giving that all the two-finger salute, being cocky as hell, Liam singing proudly "I'm a rock and roll starrrr!" Oasis ruled.

[@miggypeso909]

Yeah they weren’t all that popular here. Maybe where your from but they where seen as boring Beatle wannabes for the most part.

[@_boracic_atreus_23]

This is an AI video mate.

[@robmckay]

Live forever is one of the best tracks ever written !

[@pearljammer7689]

Far from it 🤣🤣🤣😜

[@The01Lawliet]

It is a great track indeed!

[@hollyw1dd1s]

Delusional

[@c.wdervin5987]

I don’t think Kurt gave a crap what anyone thought 😂 forget the lyrics for a sec, the music is what really matters… hate myself was a rockin track!!

[@ScurvyRascal]

Hear hear! Can't stand the Gallaghers arrogance 🤮

[@user-mf2bb6ux2h]

We needed both, the raw feelings we all go through, but a tune to lift us back up... Just helps us feel alive! Thanks guys!

[@lilhollo420]

The point of his music is to help people like him, that may be sad and hurt, feel less alone in a world where being sad is frowned apon.

[@KPac1234]

Yeah with lines like “ look on the bright side suicide” he was really trying to help people lol

[@sageantone7291]

The point is not telling people what the point is.

[@lilhollo420]

@@sageantone7291 the point is I never asked of your opinion

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

Who the hell remembers Gallagher or Kurt Kobain more? That's right...

[@lilhollo420]

@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 I only talk of valid points and that his music helps people, everyone knows the band members if there a fan and that they had wayyy more than one drummer. Stop trying to call me out on shit, I don't see you covering there music!

[@MichaelRae-rp3ls]

Love oasis it cheered me up ❤

[@AlyOops-zj2lw]

That's freedom of expression in music regardless of what opinion you might have about it. Its great that Oasis wanted to send out uplifting music for people. It's our biology, environment and influences that make us who we are. I'm not happy all the time craving happy music and messages. Sometimes I am. But other times I want to scream to release anger or cry to release sadness. Kurt had a different experience and felt abandonment as a child being kicked out of his mothers and fathers homes on numerous occasions during a recession in a small poor town even sleeping under a bridge as a teen when he had nowhere to stay. I have similar experiences in my life. So when I'm feeling a certain way it's comforting to know that there are successful people out there sharing the same raw emotions from those hard experiences and not just faking it to bend over because someone doesn't understand it. It's music man. And maybe it's not the same anymore here in North America but we used to have that freedom as any type of artist whether you're a painter, writer, musician or any other kind. It's all controlled now but it didn't used to be like that. On top of all that Kurt was bashed in the media constantly. Pretty tough to write how happy, amazing and accepting the world is when it's not true for you in your life. Art should be raw and real. It's an expression of self. If you don't feel sadness or anger at times you're a robot. I have nothing against Oasis. They've written iconic music and deserve their place in history. But we're all human. Just be you

[@alexnagy2044]

This is the coolest comment in my personal opinion. Absolutely correct in every aspects! 😊✌🏻💜

[@Mattythebassman]

Noel came from a super working class background with an abusive father. He probably had just as much the same problems as Kurt.

[@zerog1037]

He actually didn't sleep under a bridge, not tht it should take away from his music.

[@nogimma]

That's the beauty of music. Freedom of expression.

[@Polyfusia]

"I Hate Myself And I Want To Die" is a JOKE title. It's a Kurtism. It's a b-side and isn't on any album and the lyrics are just amusing nonsense. "Runny nose and runny yolk Even if you have a cold still You can cough on me again I still haven't had my full fill". Gallagher is a total git for taking the title literally. I believe Kurt used to say it sarcastically when asked how he was doing. Similar to the way he'd show up at a party and demand of the host "Here we are, now entertain us!" To be funny which ended up in Smells Like Teen Spirit. Kurt was troubled but also quite funny and people continue to completely misunderstand him.

[@austinwalker2000]

​@@stephen4631🙄 don't get offended so easily

[@BlindingSun_]

It is on an album though

[@austinwalker2000]

@@stephen4631 being like he took it to far is a I'm offended type of response

[@austinwalker2000]

@@BlindingSun_ B side so bonus but yes technically on an album I'm guessing that part was a typo

[@BlindingSun_]

@@austinwalker2000 it was on the beavis and butthead album

[@roxannecab]

I totally think Gallagher was right about this. Although I understand that yes, I agree Kurt cobain’s song was about self pity. That was Kurt letting out his raw emotions. I do believe Kurt was through a really hard time and it needed to be expressed. I also believe artists do have powers to create a change in fans perspectives. Both are right actually. However I can also understand Gallagher’s take on this also.

[@dreal500]

Gallagher was not wrong neither was Kurt. Two different perspectives on life.

[@DanielRodriguez-bv5wx]

It wasn’t a hit … it was a very obscure b side … it appeared in no album … and the song is nothing about hating yourself or dying

[@BlindingSun_]

It appeared on an album in 1993

[@AnglephileSwedenGerman]

U​@@BlindingSun_its sad u had to Google that

[@ericbroggi6151]

It appeared on The Beavis and Butthead Experience album.

[@joshuagallman9922]

It was on that Beavis and Butthead album

[@nemesis8626]

​​@@BlindingSun_ not a Nirvana album it didn't, yeah beavis and butthead, how many people you think rushed to get that? 😂

[@simonkyle2009]

2 best bands of the last 35 years

[@nightwingjonah]

I can respect his stance about not glamorizing self pity. Pretty interesting. Something I need to work on myself

[@corrioliseffect]

‘I Hate Myself And I Want To Die’ is a thrillingly energetic song. The title was chosen as a joke. Every Nirvana fan knows this.

[@l4rkm3ss]

I dont think gallagher was wrong for thinking how he did but he definitely diddnt understand that kurts goal was not to motivate and inspire listeners like him, actually in hindsight kurt diddnt have a goal or any ambition, he simply wanted to portray the pain and passion he felt in his heart and mind. He was a true artist not afraid to embrace the self pity and self loathing because honesty is the best clarity. He did not care to send out hopeful messages he cared to make raw, emotional, honest lyrics and music so that the people who are tortured by the same mentality can resonate and feel less alone in their sufferings. He definitely succeeded with me.

[@christopher19894]

The glorification of suicide or depression is the worst thing for suicidal and depressed people to experience tho, especially if there's no happy ending or light at the end of the tunnel within the writing, because it justifies existing in that realm indefinitely. And then, when their suicidal idol who glorifies darkness actually kills himself, it becomes a demonic enterprise on every level. It's interesting to analyze as a stable music nerd or historian who has no personal investment in the personality of Kurt-- but a lot of kids and teens were all in, and then Kurt cashed out, leaving them feeling even more empty than they did before they got sucked into the cult of his personality.

[@l4rkm3ss]

@@Aku-eg3jq me too i have respect for just grunge rock as a whole its just so raw and passionate. They were true artists🗣️

[@l4rkm3ss]

@@christopher19894 i see your point, i can agree that it can lead to consequences but i think 'glorification' is the wrong word for it. It was more acknowledgment. ofc its always good to look at the world positively but the truth is the world is not positive. There are no real happy endings, to truly feel real passion and love means that tremendous pain is up next. In the end thats just how it is. The only thing we can do is be content with that. Artists like Kurt could see that and wanted to embrace it. Not to glorify the truth but to acknowledge it and display the beauty in the cruelty. Sadly people are very impressionable but that shouldn't stop messages from being sent. Ignorance is bliss but those who want to see past that should have the right to do so. For me this was the soul thing that helped me through my depression, cant say ive gotten rid of it but ive been enlightened, ive been able to make sense of it, i dont want to live, but having music i can resonate with, knowing im not alone in how i see the world, it grounds me and it keeps me here. Cant say that for everyone but its still the case for some. Sorry for the long tangent 😭

[@ENORMP]

Love this song. I wanna Live ForEveR🎶🎶🎶

[@violetscreaming]

The title was a response to all these people, reporters etc constantly asking himself how are you (like the famous t shirt he wore ironically), I don’t think he was actually expressing suicidal it’s at the time. Although in hindsight I see how that’s difficult to believe. They also had a song entitled a rape me that repeated the title many times throughout the song yet it was 100% anti rape and the band had a very hard stance against any kind of violence towards women, in fact the only rule at their shows was no groping the females. So like most thing Gallagher was sadly misinformed.

[@alexnagy2044]

His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (Imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

[@sorryimsosad]

I mean he literally killed himself and attempted before and wrote about hating himself and his life in his journals. Also would you air out your internal struggles w some random interviewer?

[@violetscreaming]

@@sorryimsosad But it’s well documented what the true meaning of that songs title was and it wasn’t literal

[@alexnagy2044]

@@violetscreaming His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

[@violetscreaming]

@@alexnagy2044 how am I misinformed? He famously wore a tshirt that said hi how are you? Even you said so, so I’m not sure how I’m misinformed?

[@daveflitton381]

Gallagher is absolutely correct!!

[@DEATHWillTAKETHEPAINAWAY]

No he’s not

[@Tyron95]

I grew up listening almost exclusively nu metal and oasis. While metal was my emotional vocabulary, oasis allowed me to take a break from the dark and enjoy a bright sunny dreamy afternoon

[@clipz337]

“The song’s name is a joke” *kills himself the next year*

[@catalinarodriguez6971]

Kurt’s honesty made nirvana legendary

[@AudioReplica2023]

Both were right. Nothing wrong with using your life experiences as song writer or write a song for the masses that have nothing to do with you

[@CalamityHillMusic]

"As much as i liked him" Noel just didn't like the title of the song. He said multiple times that he liked cobain and his songwriting. Kurt was depressed, noel wasn't. So obviously noels isnt going to like it. Slide away is a banger of a song that noel written when he was down. It was just about the title nothing else.

[@ethangallagher1476]

Kurt’s music was more relatable, honest and angsty. I think in that way it was uplifting because people didn’t feel alone. I don’t think he had a lot of self pity that’s just how he felt in that moment when he made that song I’m guessing.

[@mewgiah8057]

I believe Noel was ultimately right. I’ve noticed toxic media has done a number on the populations mental health. There have been studies done that show people who watch the news regularly are 10x more depressed compared to those that ignore it. Literally consuming negative media impacts your mind and soul. I mean hell put on one of your favorite songs that is uplifting and euphoric. You will immediately have a pep in your step seconds after listening. Same goes for listening to angsty music. Of course Noel isn’t saying that listening to angsty music will immediately give you depression or make you do the thing the song is talking about. He’s just saying musicians can have a big impact on pop culture. For the record I’m a big Nirvana fan and I get that many people were able to relate to Kurt because of how raw the songs are. But I overall do think Noel was right. Like the larger conversation.

[@hishamhilal8332]

That is Liam in the picture. But yes Nirvana were too soppy and Oasis were only about the good times. They have songs about everything in life and can help you through any mood.

[@FilaMila-wc4iw]

in case of someone mentally challenged, very true

[@mikenoble3126]

Kurts honesty is what set him apart. I MEAN who is this guy anyhow? Oasis is that a bar or an island? Oh my wife it's a band. Never heard of him. So yea I'm on Kurt's side not jealous guy.

[@scorpiopig]

Noel Gallagher wasn't the only one that was right, so was my dad. RIP ❤️

[@josephmoya9929]

man, he's so right! the way out is through, and if you beat yourself up with self pity, it's no way to live.

[@sonofabobo2]

When I think of positivity, Oasis is not the first band that comes to mind. They seem like quite miserable lads.

[@FilaMila-wc4iw]

However, whenever I think of misery, it's Oasis that comes first to mind

[@liamw6562]

Have you never listened to, I don’t know, there first two albums? Not a single song is about misery

[@djf817]

​@@liamw6562yeah just overrated Brit pop.

[@benedwards4495]

@@liamw6562tbf if you look at the lyrics on songs like some might say, cast no shadow and hey now they are very negative. The songs just sound positive in how they’re played

[@catrocastre8215]

Yup, great messages, but controversial dudes, always some drama.

[@rickm3779]

I grew up with Nirvana and Oasis - I was a teen when both groups hit the scene. I’m 51 now and blessed to have been around in those days when music was awesome. I got nothing bad to say about Nirvana or Oasis.

[@Wulfzz]

People really can't stand kurt cobain or his music being criticized for some reason, it's weird. It's like they think he's holy or something.

[@Kingofthekop1]

Huge Nirvana fan but i agree, Most nirvana fans are insufferable.

[@brianj4201]

The issue is that Noel is a git. If he was actually saying something of importance it would be a different story.

[@elstonngunn4193]

Noel understand Kurt more than anyone rlly understood, they had similar upbringings only difference was Noel wasn’t alone, still their perspectives are both understandable, especially cause Noel remembered not having anything and was extremely grateful, but Kurt just had an empty feeling that fame didn’t help, which broke him down more and more

[@kidwajagstang]

1) it was meant as a joke bc Kurt was tired of everyone saying he was some depressed, gloomy person. 2) if anyone cares to actually look into it, the evidence strongly suggests he was, in fact, murdered. I used to think that the whole “Kurt was killed” crowd were delusional. But then I took a honest look into what the evidence was and I came to the conclusion that Kurt was a victim of foul play. There are just way too many pieces of evidence that don’t point to suicide as the cause of death. Most recently some info from his autopsy was leaked. Kurt apparently had a substantial gash in his leg. How did that happen! Could it have been resulting from a struggle?

[@garretttracy1839]

They said with the amount of herion and Valium in his blood (from the root beer that someone laced!) he was so high he was physically incapable of holding the shotgun up to his mouth. Plus they said they measured his arms and the length of the gun and said his arms were too short to pull the trigger holding it to his mouth he just couldn’t reach. He was definitely a victim, look up the videos of the guy who said who killed him, they found him 8 days later with his head cut off in a train yard. His apparent cause of death was being hit by the train and it killed him don’t really see how that decapitates you.

[@andrewbroughton65]

Courtney instigated it..there's a doco on KZbin by the Detective She hired when they couldn't find Kurt..He recorded all Her phone calls -unbeknownst to Her- & He examines Her lies...She should be incarcerated.

[@andrepereira744]

you're both crazy

[@denisefrontino1101]

Or being drug across somewhere to GET HIM TO the greenhouse??? Ya never know...will be thrilled to find out that particular info 🌼

[@user-db5yt5mh9n]

Gash on leg could be from the backfire from the shotgun rip kurtd❤

[@ravenaome]

Live forever is my favorite song from Oasis, and Oasis has been my favorite band for a very long time. Noel definitely knew how to write songs and the way he portrayed life was beautiful.

[@design1of470]

Kurt wasn't serious about the song title. If I remember correctly, he wanted to call In Utero that name, and the label wasn't having it. IMO I Hate Myself... is one of my favorite Nirvana B-Sides. All that said, Live Forever is a great, great song.

[@hisenseks]

No one is serious until they are

[@markdubois3614]

I feel Cobain really at times thought that's what people think of me. He would often say my lyrics have very little to do with my life or me at all but could be maybe he was a little embarrassed only Kurt knows ? his lyrics have helped people in darkness no doubt. thanks Kurt for your talent and honesty RIP.

[@eqx7168]

Live forever is an incredible song

[@Lillipod1]

Noel’s motto is Don’t let the bs grind you down.

[@trashcan_5450]

Maybe it’s also partly because he’s just mad that he writes shit boring songs lmaoo

[@matthewensign9683]

I've tried listening to Oasis. I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing the context or nostalgia factor...either way, I don't get the hype.

[@benjaminlewington6627]

Shit boring songs that's sold more that 70million times 🤷‍♂️

[@francisbrodie9140]

@@matthewensign9683the first 2 albums and b side album were awesome everyone in the uk listened to oasis dressed like oasis drank oasis and went to oasis gigs but the 3rd album was shit maybe they should’ve kept the bsides for that but the never released another album in the 90s and by the time they released stuff it was 2000 the scene had changed dance music was back it sucked in 99 ocs played Stirling castle to 30000 by 2000 they were back playing in front of 2000 folk! Cast, the verve both broke up

[@thestorm5735]

​@francisbrodie9140 the 3rd album is great in its own coke-up way, it's on the 4th where things got kinda meh

[@marshallgibson8872]

Kurt never got high off his own farts. I don't think they play nirvana at Barnes and Nobel either.

[@JamesyWaddell]

Noel always writes uplifting songs....Who wants to have their fans depressed and self harming...Go on Noel you GOD.

[@mike000395]

Eliciting a response, even one of disdain, is art. Cobain was a genuine Rembrandt of his time. Oasis drives on Nirvana's roads.

[@Jessedobson755]

As much as I love both bands, I think Noes point towards this is a very good point, since Nirvana was such an inspiration to youngers, releasing a message like that can cause a lot of problems by effecting fans by idolising them with these negative comments, but it's also up to Kurt what he names his songs but I can massively understand Noes point

[@megabeetlejuicer96]

It’s absolutely true, and even nowadays largely thanks to him self pity and negativity is seen as cool. Not good

[@JivecattheMagnificent]

If people feel upset or depressed and want to write about it, they can. It literally doesn't matter a single bit what Gallagher thinks.

[@lawnmowerman7]

firstly, that song wasn't a hit. also, he meant it as a joke

[@sorryimsosad]

It was so untrue he attempted suicide and then actually committed to it. Guess he was really serious about his irony. “See guys I’m dead now just for the bit”

[@lawnmowerman7]

@@sorryimsosad he got more depressed after he wrote it. It was meant to be a reference to how people perceived him. This is what he, himself said, anyway

[@jeremywanner4526]

He has a right to like or dislike anything he wants,be it the music or the message,it’s his prerogative.Both bands are incredible anyway in my opinion

[@LiamG903]

Noel is the best songwriter of our generation, he was right and live forever is a masterpiece

[@emgee9775]

Who care what Noel thinks? Kurt had serious drug, pain, depression and ADHD issues which he would never understand. Kurt was speaking his truth, and it’s not for Noel to tell his what to say.

[@HarleyMM1328]

can say the same for Kurt tho. i love nirvana but jesus christ most of their stuff is depressing. not bad for Noel to want to put out an uplifting tune to have people feel good.

[@rmv9194]

He had great aim tho!

[@vladimirimp]

If Noel was too stupid not to take their titles literally, it’s offensive that he didn’t criticise Rpe Me instead.

[@mack_hein]

“Leave Forever” sums up my thoughts on Oasis

[@carolebarker2195]

I'm with Noel...."Get off the floor and believe in life/No-one's ever ever gonna ask you twice."

[@martanowak3431]

I really like both Nirvana and Oasis. I think that some people need sometimes hear happy songs and sometimes some darker. People are different, listen different music and that's okay. Noel of course had right to tell his opinion, but Kurt also had right to write these kind of songs. And I aprecciate comments where is explained meaning of the song. :-)

[@IAmKevSavard]

Who ever you are stay Who you are.

[@murphy1832]

Oasis had a problem with everything and everybody

[@banknpr3984]

Oasis don't want to die but his sound will fade away. While Nirvana want to die but his sounds have never die

[@bobbyhanna3275]

Noel was right! Nirvana are legendary because of Cobain's death.

[@Prez-B]

I think they are both legends and are both free to speak their minds. In this case, I think noel does have a genuine point.

[@LeeLee-bo3dr]

Damn and he did it, honest lyrics,poor Kurt, people still think fame is happiness,many examples of that not always being the case

[@jokerswildio]

Honesty is what made Cobain and Nirvana legendary. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking this was a joke...he killed himself a year later. What we say and project manifests itself. Gallagher was right that music is too powerful a medium to take lightly (I am paraphrasing)...be careful.

[@Lafuerza_V]

Love Oasis, but the older I get, the more I kinda really don’t care for Liam and to a lesser extent Noel. Well at least how they acted when they were famous in general. They don’t relate to the depressing stuff, so they shyt all over it? Okay, some people have problems and the “be optimistic why are you even saying that sad stuff” take I’ve heard them say, comes off so vapid, shallow, disconnected etc. Telling depressed people to just be happy isn’t going to do anything for them, it’s wildly insulting. Idk, don’t wanna take simple comments this much to heart, but I just think it’s whack as all hell that that was their take at the time

[@H3avyHaul3r]

Oasis were a breath of fresh air after those few grunge years…thanks boys

[@EduardoRaya-dj6zv]

Kurt was depressed, having health problems, emotional cobain needed help, he was screaming for help..😊

[@markharrison3096]

❤100% Noels right. Oasis live forever

[@Doog1958]

I like Nirvana but he's right about the negativity.

[@markanderson3870]

They're both right. Next question.

[@vr6swp]

Cobain’s dark sense of humor just didn’t match up with the more straightforward Gallaghers. I also don’t think Noel was wrong pinning Kurt as a whiny self pitying millionaire

[@charbelboughannam643]

There is no right or wrong. Art is art . It’s not supposed to kill anyone or save any one …

[@pimpsimp8934]

They’re both right kids don’t need to hear the negative of life all the time music is an influence and if all you hear is the bad in life you start to search for the bad but at the same time it’s important to understand and recognize that this is a true and unfortunate reality we live in

[@lisaparsons4124]

The song I hate myself and want to die was a joke.Kurt Cobain was a awesome singer, and sad he passed away in1994, back when I was 27.May kurt Cobain RIP 💐🙏

[@superlizita1]

Respect for Cobain, so sad he ended dead. And respect for Noel for overcoming his rough life

[@robertscott5208]

Nirvana saved my life. Screaming Kurts music was somewhat catharctic during a real low suicidal thoughts.

[@maxduggan4730]

Music should express every emotion not just happy because “sad bad” that’s a given, grunge was about expressing feeling one way, indie was about feeling another way that’s all

[@ugrinvuckovic1770]

Cobain’s “honesty” Is not honesty at all, it’s a failure to be honest with yourself

[@brianmoran9220]

Noel was spot on live forever

[@HallowWeener]

Both of them are right. Music & art is a reflection of existence.

[@Randomblurbz]

Noel has always been riddled with jealousy because Kurt was so much better.

[@ads2686]

don't think the guy who his about to make millions with the oasis comeback while Kurt blew his brains out.....

[@thatssoironic]

It’s true! Kurt wrote dark lyrics because he was depressed! Life is hard sometimes, and Kurt didn’t hold back when he wrote. If it wasn’t Noel’s speed, he didn’t have to listen, but we all know Kurt had more talent in his little finger than Noel PLUS his brother would ever have in their entire lives. He was JEALOUS. Lots of people were jealous of Kurt when he was alive.

[@AwakeAtTheWheel]

So many bands were making music to respond to Nirvana at that time. What an impact, for the good and the bad.

[@michaelallen3207]

I'm a fan of both bands but Noel is always right like me he's from Manchester and northern sence is always on the nail

[@DNGINFORMANT]

Both had the right to do what they did. I think Kurt was more of a reaching out for help that people just didn’t understand and obviously uplifting lyrics are always the best way to go. I can understand Noel’s opinion though.

[@stickypickle19]

kurts one of the only people who can say stuff like that and it not be corny

[@karacrawford6472]

Artists are not responsible for the mental health of their fans. If their fans are depressed, they’re not going to suddenly feel happy if their favorite band starts singing about butterflies and rainbows. They’ll probably seek out different musicians at that point.

[@cmcsdf]

“Leave Forever” doesn’t exactly radiate positivity

[@ye6973]

lol they couldn’t even pronounce the song name properly for a short