Oban Bothy - Bothy overnighter in Scotland's most remote Bothy!?

Hiking to the Oban Bothy via the Glenpean Bothy from Loch Arkaig through probably the most beautiful and wild Scottish Glen, Glen Pean. The Oban Bothy lays in north-west of Scotland in the wilderness of Knoydart and is considered as remote as it gets in the Knoydart area.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

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[@CeciliaDyckhoff]

My late husband was fond of that bothy. Many of his friends made donations to the MBA in his memory to help with its maintenance.

[@mattmatty4670]

That's cool.

[@naturelover2238]

lovely

[@MegaDeansy]

I'm so sorry for your loss x

[@archanabhat5343]

​@@StripeyHatGuy????

[@StripeyHatGuy]

@@archanabhat5343 There was a comment which asked if I filmed people sleeping, which I obviously not did - must have been a ‘troll’ and I replied to it…the ‘troll’ delete the comment too put me in a nice spot. Guess some people have nothing else to do in their free time!

[@Canopus68]

I wouldn't go hiking in Scotland without boots or in warm weather barefoot. And a rain coat. It's a beautiful country.

[@laszlocsonka]

I guess you do not know much about Scottish weather. Warm weather, ha-ha.

[@Banditmanuk]

Highly impressive film you've made. As a small KZbin channel myself, I can appreciate all the work for those passing shots. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@stup4501]

Exactly what I I came here to comment, there's some distance covered!

[@George.Hilton.]

A great video Stripey. It was surprising to see my Thermarest and gear laid out in Glen Pean bothy on it. Even my friend's toilet roll on the table made a guest appearance! I was on the mountain opposite, Sgurr Thuilm, the day you visited. Hope you enjoyed your trip

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi George 👋, was actually wondering where the people (you and your friend) were…beautiful area and you guys have a lot more trust in people than I do 😄. Hope you had a great hike as well. Thanks Stripey

[@NigelHarperPhoto]

Excellent Vid! Your filming makes it look like you have a film crew with you. I know just how much effort you’ve put into making this video. Placing the camera, walking into the distance and going back to retrieve it time and time again - Wow! It’s really paid off, so very well done. That’s certainly a very remote part of Scotland you’ve hiked through to. Quite an adventure!👍🎥👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Nigel!

[@thedaftestnameicouldthinko8233]

I’m always impressed when someone films themselves crossing a river. 3 crossings instead of 1! The work you put into this video was well worth it. Excellent video. BTW, the way out via Lochan Einaich is also very scenic. I used these 2 passes when doing the Cape Wrath Trail and recommend it. Far more beautiful than Glen Dessary and Glen Dessary isn’t bad.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot for the tip! Was the first time for me in this area, but already love it for its remote feel - hopefully I get the chance to go back soon 🤞

[@bonniek3985]

One could spend a lifetime planting trees in this area, but that is just the forester in me talking!

[@skookumjack]

What an incredible amount of work you put into filming and editing your videos Stripey ! The professionalism is way beyond you subscription level. Well done !

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Jack! 😊

[@alexblue6991]

I'm from Scotland I have never tried staying in a bothy I always went to glencoe I think I'll put this on my to do list

[@carmend.1924]

I absolutely love your amazing videos! I watch, with both, terror and exhilaration, in equal measure! You’re the bravest guy there is, and nature rewards you with astonishing and breathtaking views, for us all to enjoy by video. I thank you for sharing your adventures with us all. I’m afraid our Colorado mountains would not be a good challenge to match your skills, but we have plenty fourteeners here, to keep you entertained. I’m so glad I found your channel. Stay safe!

[@gottasay4766]

I so love that you take the time to setup the scene before you walk it. Allows us to envision ourselves there.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot! 😊

[@randygeyer7673]

Absolutely delightful! Good attitude, good person and amazing sights. The Bothy is clean and orderly. That’s good and I’m happy you found a nice place to sleep.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Randy!

[@Wingalaxi]

Stunning. Thanks!

[@Jennifer.4]

Stunningly beautiful, this looked like an amazing and challenging walk and very worth while, even if others might consider you mad!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Jennifer!

[@kensign1000]

Stunningly beautiful!! Thank you!!

[@martinreynolds1]

Stunning scenery.

[@gmac7947]

❤ thanks for taking us along …..great edit

[@iaina3251]

Great video (as always), It looks a long, lovely walk but those views, just stunning and hopefully absolutley worth it.

[@The.Great.Calling]

It must of felt great to finally arrive and get to sit down and rest after the long bogie trek. Scotland’s natural rugged beauty very much resembles the most eastern province in Canada of Newfoundland. Thanks for the video👍

[@Pommyjon1978]

What an amazing glen to walk through and what a bothy to visit, really enjoy this. Thanks for sharing.

[@judithwilliams3835]

I really enjoyed your journey through the glen and seeing the Bothy. Thank you for filming it.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much for watching Judith ☺️

[@BBQDad463]

Thank you for this video. Incredibly rugged, harsh, beautiful scenery.

[@elgitano7548]

What a wonderful walk in a beautiful place!

[@BarlowsOnTour]

Really enjoyed this, what a stunning location.

[@bachbaby6996]

Wonderful job on this video.

[@MichaelSmith-hg1sb]

Great camera work it looks fantastic 👍👍

[@Kev_Russ]

Brilliant tour Stripey, great adventure. Very rugged, remote & tough. Wouldnae fancy that trek in deep snow. Nice of you to give your new pal a lift.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Kev! Of course I give a fellow hiker a lift, particular when it is on my way anyway 👍

[@maeseisra]

Thanks for sharing.

[@MaliceGLA]

Fantastic video Stripey 👍This is the most remote bothy. Thanks a lot for sharing your adventures.

[@stubect]

Great Vlog SHG. Oban is great.

[@Steve72Outdoors]

Great video Stripey. The Stags at the beginning of video were amazing. Can't believe how close you managed to get. That walk in certainly looked extremely wet 😂 The path on the hill side looked a wee bit precarious 😬 All the best mate 👍

[@Teenibash1969]

I didn’t know of this both. I don’t walk in places so remote. But is so beautiful and atmospheric.

[@serkd37]

Hi Stripey 👋. The stags were amazing, so lucky to see them. We nearly lost you in the boggy ground Stripey, I suppose you didn’t use your poles and risked disappearing for us, filming your hike! This was a lovely spot, thanks for showing us. ATB Serk

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi Serk 👋, thanks a lot. Yepp this is actually why I didn’t use them - so I could carry a tripod 🙈. on the way back I used them so, it was definitely better walking. As always Serk, thanks a lot for watching 🙌 ATB Stripey

[@reluctantfellrunner]

Lovely trip out for you. Best wishes on the next.

[@kevinpalmer7452]

Really appreciate the efforts you go to that was another epic production 👍🙏

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks you very much Kevin! 🙌

[@grahamhaines9931]

Great trip. Oban Bothy is one of the more remote adventures in Knoydart. The views to the Lochans on the walk in were outstanding. Thanks for sharing.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Graham! It is a really stunning place, can’t wait to explore more of it 🤞. Thanks a lot for watching! ATB Stripey

[@dearmountains3431]

Wow! This video was on my recommendations and I’m so glad it was. Absolutely outstanding. This part of the country is so unique and so beautiful, thoroughly enjoyed the adventure.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much!

[@allankerr668]

Just amazingly beautiful Stripey! Thank you! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Allan!

[@aaronhipolito2155]

Fantastic video and really amazing cinematography. I can see that you really are passionate! No pretentiousness just real love for the outdoors. Love your content. And now I am subscribed! 😁👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much.

[@jimhibbs2372]

Great trip, special terrain.

[@StreetShots79]

That was fun! Great work mate!!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much mate!

[@jeffreyroberts7438]

What an absolutely spectacular place! One of your best ever👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Jeffrey, always great to hear some feedback - particular when it is positive 😎

[@ootnboots]

Nice one Stripey, a stunning part of the country but a boggy trek and loads of river crossings. Looked another good trip mate . Cheers Stevie

[@AScotsmanOutdoors]

This was an excellent route and the view up that first loch was nothing short of stunning. Great to see more bothys and that sounds like some trip Chris has made to get there. Excellent stuff as always mate 👍🏼

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot mate 👍 Stunning walk up the Glen, probably the most impressive one I have seen so far in Scotland. Cheers Stripey

[@james-kinnear]

10/10 for effort, Stripey! As ever, thanks for sharing. Cheers J.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much James!

[@stephenhenion8304]

Just found your channel and admire your trekking! Just Stunning video.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you so much Stephen! 😊

[@boomshine87]

Whoa your shoes are funky! Never seen a twist method before 😮

[@steveworthington930]

You take me back years, done the Glen Pean route, great stravaig. Gang of us did Pean to A,Chuil to Oban back to Pean, wild and lonely place indeed. A fav bothy Oban, only matched by Kinbreak for solitude, now rather busy, alas.

[@hammartid]

First video of yours I've seen, I really liked it, good work! Keep it up. Beautiful scenery!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot.

[@davemassingham2096]

Great vid mate stunning scenery would love to be in that Bothy when it’s snowing 👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Dave! That would be an absolute dream 😎

[@joeboyle7820]

Magic big man👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

[@georgejossaume2417]

Love the sound of the birds in the morning 👌🏻nice one stripey!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much George!

[@annepoitrineau5650]

beautiful!

[@sbdiaries]

A good hike with some beautiful views over the Glen and Loch ❤. A nice cosy boothie for the night 🌙. Take care and safe travels Simon and Beth ❤❤❤

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Simon and Beth! So far I think this is my favourite Glen 😍

[@user-zl4sd2rb9j]

Great video

[@TheMadmacs]

wow, that must be the best walk in scotland, so epic. bit remote for me, truly stunning vid.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

It is for sure one of the best Glens I have seen so far, truly wild in my eyes 😎. Thank you very much Madmacs 👍

[@MFJoneser]

Lovely. Really nice!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much MFJoneser!

[@LakeDistrictOutdoors]

Great video, I stopped in abyssinnia bothy 2022. It was an epic adventure but I just can't get used to the smell of an old bothy! 😂 Good work! Subscribed.

[@thornbird6768]

I really like it when hikers stay in a bothy

[@meysam9]

That's great and beautiful place

[@DAoutdoors]

Wow Stripey, one of your most stunningly beautiful locations ever, just fantastic. I did enjoy the line, “walking to this Bothy would be madness”……..as you were walking to the Bothy! Haha, brilliant mate, thanks for sharing as always. 😀🥾⛰🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Dave, completely agree! The funny thing is that I did all this only to find another mad person 😂😂😂

[@katherineaustin2477]

Love your videos

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much 😊

[@lisalong821]

I love the way you talk…

[@BoredManOutdoors]

That looked tough going... Nice to have company on the way out? Wet, but nice part of the world. Thanks for sharing your adventures. 👏👏👏😎

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Yes it was for sure my most demanding bothy to date. Thanks a lot for watching. ATB Stripey

[@ronniemathieson17]

Excellent Stripey! 👍 A helluva walk-in though 😀

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Ronnie, the never ending walk through probably one of the best Glens in Scotland 😎

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

Wow that is stunning, There is wildness.....and then there's wilderness. I like the camaraderie.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Amanita

[@mickiwest2536]

Great effort stripey stunning place, really enjoyed the video sitting with my nice hot cup of coffee 😊😊

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Micki, glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@grantkokich6906]

Nice walk and scenery. Very picturesque by the locks. All the shelters seem in good condition you visit in Scotland. Reminds me of my visit to Scotland in 1980.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Grant!

[@davidalexander287]

Thanks, a stunning video and very helpful as I intend to walk it later this year. I was very thankfull for the view of the route around Lochan Leum.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Excellent 👍

[@davidalexander287]

@Stripey Hat Guy have you considered walking over to Sourlies bothy from Oban?

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Looked at it on the map as well, looks steep but definitely doable. Probably the biggest question is if the river in the Glen has high water (spate?) which could make it impossible to cross. Definitely on my list for future trips 😎

[@davidalexander287]

@Stripey Hat Guy yeah the river. If I make it to Oban, I'm certainly going to give it a try.

[@BeachcomberNZ]

A bothy is probably what we call a 'bach' in New Zealand's North Island, or a 'crib' in our South Island - rustic accommodation in the countryside, or coast. DOC (government Department of Conservation) huts, however, are probably a closer comparison to a bothy. If you ever get to NZ, you'll really like hanging out in a DOC hut, if you like the bothy style of hiking accommodation.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi Beachcomber NZ, thanks a lot - didn't know about the DOC before, sounds indeed like the NZ version of a bothy. Cheers Stripey

[@user-uy6uc5ey5q]

Though walking into a NZ hut without taking off outside footwear off, wandering round filming people sleeping, talking loudly while doing so and wandering off before asking said sleeper if they were ok being filmed won't get quite the warm reaction culturally he assumes he gets in Scotland. I know if I come across him doing this the camera gear might get damaged as some stage,

[@myrabenson1603]

What a. Hike 🚶‍♂️ amazing place

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Myra!

[@charlesrobert9527]

Stripey you pick some awesome routes. That glen is fantastic and I have added it to my list of top walks I want to do. Your videos are definitely inspirational and this one doubly so. I can see that wet feet is going to be highly likely probably any time of the year. Both bothies look spot on, particularly the Oban bothy. Super video. Thanks for sharing.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Charles! Yeah this route is hard to beat in its beauty - so far definitely in my top 3! Can’t wait to get more out again 🤞👍

[@charlesrobert9527]

I hope you find more routes like that one. Your videos are excellent and I really enjoy that the key focus of your videos is not necessarily, indeed rarely, about getting to the top for the sake of getting to the top. Yes, sometimes because it is a great campsite with views or on route after a scramble. However I like your approach to having an exploration of an area and this video does just that.

[@martinhighcock7551]

Thanks, superb video with excellent detail of the terrain. Looks epic! I presume this was recent (sorry if I missed the date)? The MBA website is a bit vague as to when Oban bothy normally reopens.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi Martin, thanks a lot! It was the last March weekend when I was at the Oban Bothy. So yes it is open again 👍

[@K9Outdoors]

Nice to actually see inside the bothy because every time i hike there the bothy is always locked. Thanks for sharing

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Perfect! Thanks a lot for watching K9 Outdoors. ATB Stripey

[@MaliceGLA]

Needed to watch it again Stripey - just amazing trip. Not sure if I like hikes/scrambles or bothy trips most 😅. Thanks a lot for all the videos!!!

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Malice! It is obviously depending how I feel and how the weather is sometimes I prefer a hike to a bothy and sometimes a scramble and wild camp on top of a mountain. Each has its own appeal to me personally- just love the outdoors 😎

[@theforester3426]

Wow been to that bothy there and back in one day many years ago from a remote camp on the shores of Loch Arkaig.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

That must have been a long day - strong! 🙌👍

[@roomullan3050]

Amazing

[@murchiesmountains2820]

What a brilliant tour and video 😍👌🏻..That Glen you hiked through looked amazing though a bogfest 😂..Stunning scenery and the Bothy looked a cracker 😁👌🏻..Top stuff Stripey 😍👍 Cheers Robert

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Robert! Yeah the Glen is one of the most beautiful ones I have seen so far but pretty wet underfoot😂. Probably best to go in winter or via a boat. I wouldn't go it in summer as I can only imagine how many ticks are living there with all the deer...or you soak yourself in a pesticide 😎 Cheers Stripey

[@murchiesmountains2820]

@@StripeyHatGuy The old tick nightmare 😂

[@DaveGoodman1959]

Thanks Stripey, that was such an impressive valley and bothy location. Made me want ti go there for sure. I have not seen anymore videos of your caldera cone ,looked ok I saw you using it. ATB 👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Dave! It is truly a remote location for a bothy, and Glen Pean is probably the most beautiful one I have seen so far. Yeah the cone is in the next steps (finished a better version in cad), but currently I am very busy with my job and the time I have I rather go out - there will come some updates hopefully after Easter 👍 Thanks a lot Stripey

[@DaveGoodman1959]

@@StripeyHatGuy cheers Happy Easter

[@blackmountainadventures]

Absolutely beautiful video. Very much looking forward to spending some time up and around the Scottish mountains this year. The bothy’s in Scotland seem to be far better maintained than the ones we have here in Wales. Definitely my kind of hiking tho 😂 very few will be following your footprints in them conditions, just the way I like it. I would love to see a pack load out video one day? ATB Lee 👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Lee. I do have a pretty recent video about my pack + pack load out which I usually use in 3 seasons. Thanks for watching Stripey

[@blackmountainadventures]

@@StripeyHatGuy I will check it out 👍

[@123boat]

Very enjoyable video 👏👏👏

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much 😊

[@123boat]

@@StripeyHatGuy It’s a beautiful part of Scotland. Just subscribed so will watch more of your videos 👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

@@123boat oh wow thank you. I think this is the most stunning Glen I have seen so far, but again I haven’t seen a lot yet 😉

[@pulchralutetia]

Fantastic video. Oban bothy is very hard to get to, unless you kayak up Loch Morar. I would love to visit sometime.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much!

[@johnakyle5908]

Great video Stripey, it would be nice to have a visit after a ( rare) dry spell.. , I’ve walked to Sourlies before and always fancied a walk to Oban .

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot John! Yeah a dry spell would be a the better choice for that. The way back was already so much better to walk after just 1 day without rain 👍

[@beingatliberty]

great stuff

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much!

[@bonpecheur4565]

The boggy hat guy strikes again ! So many little streams to cross on that path , I wouldnt do that here at this time of the year 🥶 . I'm alway's amazed how far you put your camera to get some shot. Thanks for sharing Stripey

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hahaha thanks a lot buddy 🙌👋👍

[@cgavin1]

First rule of the UK: No matter how remote, or how far out, some funt has already put a towel on the sun bed.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hahaha usually it is the German 😂😂😂

[@cgavin1]

@@StripeyHatGuy 🥰

[@fraserconnell21]

Go go stripey 😊💥.. As soon as you're able to take your stove cone to market please let me know!! Do promise to buy at least one for myself! Been looking out for a generic stormin Norman spirit stove for as long as eternity!! Hope to converse with you soon as they're on the market 😊😊😊

[@captainlandslide9874]

Nice one 😃👍

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you!

[@danielsmith5451]

Amazing video my man x

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much 👍

[@user-ju3dd6hi8x]

Scotland is on my bucket list to travel and explore i read a lot of places in Scotland that is so beautiful....someday God willing...

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hopefully it works out! One of the best things is that you do not necessarily need to hike/climb/… to see the see the great scenery. Scotland has really for everyone something to offer 😊

[@WalkWithWallace]

Guid video Stripey. That's a hard shift between Peen and Oban by the way , but it's really stunning. Definitely in the top 5 most remote bothies.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thanks a lot Robin! Yeah absolutely stunning scenery- still glad that I passed not one car on the way driving along the Loch…would have been a pleasure to reverse on that street 😂

[@WalkWithWallace]

@@StripeyHatGuy ha, that's lucky as there's been a lot of logging trucks down there.

[@wadirunner]

It may well be the boggiest bothy, but IMHO it is definetely one of the most photogenic bothies. You got one he'll of a sunrise. Terrific video. I visited it back in April 2019 as part of a three day adventure, but in reverse. I walked in from Lochailort station, approx 19km via Loch Beoraid and Meoble. Day 2 was short, but tough going as far as Glen Pean bothy. Boggy with a bit of scrambling if I remember right. I had a wild swim too i recall, the weather was warm! Day 3 was back to Glenfinnan, passing Corryhully. I think you used to be able to get a boat into Oban bothy??? I know I tried to organize one but couldn't get anywhere so had a tough first days walk. That brought back some good memories. Really enjoyed that. Regards, Wadirunner.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi Wadirunner, Yes definitely it is worth it! I read as well about the boat option, but didn’t even bother looking it proper up tbh. For me it is quite a drive to get up to Glen Pean and I didn’t mind a longish walk. The walk needs to be longer than the drive imho, otherwise the tour is the wrong one 😎. Your tour sounds absolutely amazing! Really hope that I have soonish some more days of for a multi day adventure as well 🤞. Thanks a lot for watching! ATB Stripey

[@albaproductions9602]

Brilliant

[@Baud2Bits]

Great production quality. Who needs a film crew when you can repeat the same stretch again and again to get that walking shot. Must be extra fun when you are exhausted.

[@scottishclimber7630]

That was a great effort Stripey to cross that boggy rough ground to get to the bothy. 👍 Really impressed how you walked through the rivers and filmed it too. Hope you had a spare pair of socks and were able to get your shoes dry before the return! An epic trip to a very remote location. ATB Derek

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Thank you very much Derek! Yeah I always have a spare set off clothes with me. Unfortunately I didn't bring enough fire logs (only 3 pieces) which weren't enough for drying my shoes and socks so the next day I had the pleasure 😂

[@user-ww6es3bu9y]

....I was in Oban in 1957, while in the U.S.Navy.........We anchored out aboard the USS Wasp, CVS 18.

[@davidsexton6604]

Hi friend, if you carried 2 thick plastic bags you could keep your feet dry at least ! Great vid ! Love the Highlands !

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi David! Plastic bags are just making your feet sweaty and wet as well during walking in my experience. The only usage is as a liner during camp when I have already changed to sleeping socks. Wet feet paired with wool socks doesn’t give me any problems at all - most of the time I manage to walk my shoes/socks to walk dry again actually. Thanks a lot Stripey

[@john-wq8kf]

My favourite bothy was when we canoed around Jura was Glengarisdale we had just paddled through corrvreckan unfortunately the whirlpool was silent but hey the ticks where out at the bracken at the bothy.

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Hi John👋, haven't been there yet, but I read only amazing things about the beauty of the bay. Yeah the ticks are quite bad in Scotland...will never get used to them 🙁

[@john-wq8kf]

Well somethings will stick in your mind if you let them but when we camped or bivied the night we just went through our bits and pieces and sometimes found the beasties but often did not. I think the girls where especially careful with there searches us boys not so much after a while I don’t think it really got to us not like the midges.

[@fraserconnell21]

Best wishes for getting the stove to market😊. I'd deff buy one s.a.p...