Tess Holliday Is STARVING... For Attention

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@ObesetoBeast
@ObesetoBeast 2 жыл бұрын
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@joshuacarson6576
@joshuacarson6576 2 жыл бұрын
She was never diagnosed with anorexia. She said her dietitian told her but can't give her medical advice which means she was never diagnosed. She's a narcissist. She's been called out by a brother for lying multiple times and others.
@michaeladove7269
@michaeladove7269 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Tess, but what you said at the end of the video, that "most people can look at her and know she's not anorexic" isn't that like a man identifying as woman without boob implants or shaving the beard? Some people identify as all kinds of genders, even made up ones, identify as other races or made up ones, 50-year-old men identifying as 6 year old girls even though you can see they're not that, etc. This is how the world works these days. She can identify as 9000-year-old skeletal Martian and that's ok, isn't it?
@dariohfao2989
@dariohfao2989 2 жыл бұрын
i understand her anorexia.. im 6.2" and im just diagnosed with dwarfism
@definitelynotaslug
@definitelynotaslug 2 жыл бұрын
Saying "I got busy and forgot to eat, therefore I must be anorexic" is such a slap in the face to anyone who legitimately struggles with anorexia. She was always a bit annoying to me before, but as someone who has struggled with ED for 15 years seeing her do this shit just makes my blood boil. Furthermore, she takes all of the legitimacy out of her actually valid arguments by doing this. There is a serious problem with fatphobia in our medical system (and society as a whole), but when she behaves like this no one is going to take her other valid points seriously. She's just trying to remain relevant and in the news now that everyone has grown bored of her.
@TempestiEs
@TempestiEs 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! I hope you're doing better now, I haven't struggled with anorexia for nearly as long but I can relate at least somewhat, it's definitely hard but I know you're strong enough to recover if you haven't already!
@hannahboebanna
@hannahboebanna 2 жыл бұрын
well stated!! she doesn’t even touch on the real struggles, the war between your brain and body, the pain of eating, both physically and mentally when you do have to - it makes me feel like i should lock myself in my room and never eat or talk to anyone again. she’s really damaged people with ED, and we don’t need that, we need help, we need love. thankyou for sharing and stay well 🙏🏼🤍
@LmaoMoni
@LmaoMoni Жыл бұрын
I think I had/have atypical anorexia. I started at 220 and I thankfully have slowed down and sit at 160. That sounds fine but I lost all of it in about 4-5 months. Idk how it happened. I always thought anorexia was about hating your body but at around 195 I LOVED the way I looked. I had a bit of ednos as a teenager but could always stop starving and good into binging. But this time I just never binged. Days turned into weeks turned into months. I couldn’t eat. I made excuses for no reason, I’d sit at my table for hours with food ready and waiting and just wouldn’t eat. My bones started sticking out I look sick. My curvy body turned lanky and jagged. But I saw how much nicer people treated me. With every lost pound I found I gained more power. I’m black and female and people used to treat me like I was a man when I was bigger. Now I’m seen as soft, bubbly and even delicate. I hate the way I look now. I thought being skinny would make me happy but it’s just made me angry and depressed. The way I looked was never the problem, the way people treated me because of it was. I’m trying really hard to eat and get better but I can only manage to stay on track of or a couple days and then stop eating. I’m debating treatment but at 160 I feel like they’d laugh me out of any treatment center.
@samateverysize
@samateverysize 2 жыл бұрын
I recently shared my biggest beef with Tess being that she could have shined such a light on binge eating disorder and the many people who struggle, but she did this instead. It's mind blowing. Honestly. And as someone who suffered for BED for years before learning what it actually was - she has pointed people away from the truth. And I hate that.
@showerpwner
@showerpwner 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 No offense intended, but can't anorexia and bed exist at the same time? Just saying bc I watched his comments on Dorian who explained that their weight was always really low or it would go high to obesity and then back down again to the anorexic weight . They had mentioned having to get down to the low weight to make anyone notice and be sick enough but it was hard for those with bed too since the binging kept them normal weight ...not obese like Tess, just average BMI weight. Isn't Nervosa the mental disease anyway? Anorexia itself is a symptom of malnutrition. You can get it from covid for example bc you lose desire to eat and drink, but it's not because of the mental aspect of the disorder.
@keepthat5054
@keepthat5054 2 жыл бұрын
And all just because she's too fucking shallow to admit it's actually BED she wants to have the cute dainty✨ disorder it's sick
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 Yeah. But Tess doesn't lose any weight ... at all! It has been 10 months now since she revealed that. Even the people on "my 600 lbs life" were half gone during that time on their 1200kcal diet. Atypical anorexia just means that people start at being overweight, but all the other criteria fit. Tess is shown binging on screen ffs, no anorectic would do that.
@shegoego2396
@shegoego2396 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 she makes me so mad too! I have atypical anorexia and it’s no joke. (I have lost weight) this is not a disorder that is cute or quirky. It has quite literally ruined my life, body, and mental health. She makes us look like fat illness’s fakers who just want attention.
@yissssss
@yissssss 2 жыл бұрын
She will do anything for clout.
@trueamerican541
@trueamerican541 2 жыл бұрын
She can't claim to be starving herself while she is gaining weight. That requires a caloric surplus and at her size that's most likely above 4000 calories a day. That's not anorexia.
@miabanana9498
@miabanana9498 2 жыл бұрын
I could almost guarantee you she doesn't understand how calories work based on this interview
@tylociraptor8131
@tylociraptor8131 2 жыл бұрын
At her weight if she just ate an AVERAGE diet she would shed pounds faster than a husky in the summer. If she was STARVING herself she would be losing weight fast enough to cause serious complications with her health. Yep.
@zippydodahquirk9039
@zippydodahquirk9039 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she has disordered eating like starving a couple days then binging.
@gemstar7286
@gemstar7286 2 жыл бұрын
She's stuffing her face , it's all attention seeking . She is not anorexic .
@LoveSpellzFB
@LoveSpellzFB 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like she 's literally canniballized several entire anorexic people since she's announced that she was anorexic, what a joke
@sprig.sprout
@sprig.sprout 2 жыл бұрын
She looks so happy when she’s talking about how “everyone is talking about it around the world.”
@leddik
@leddik 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when she’s like “they were talking about it for days, months.” In my head, I’m like. I don’t think you’re that relevant, but oh well.
@jaxo5679
@jaxo5679 2 жыл бұрын
It was intentional. She knows how to get talked about. Her saying she had no idea people would care is BS.
@Jess-Rabbit
@Jess-Rabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@leddik dude for real. Like, ain't no one talking about it outside of KZbin, calm down
@logicdied6766
@logicdied6766 2 жыл бұрын
“Weeks….months actually” 😏😁
@suni8891
@suni8891 2 жыл бұрын
She needs to go on a warm salt water and vitamin fast for the next 365 days
@hellyeah_ellajane
@hellyeah_ellajane 2 жыл бұрын
Her biggest drawback becomes clear when she says: “Someone could have helped me.” Girlfriend, that someone is you. It always has been and ultimately always will be. Accountability is a helluva drug.
@minab5256
@minab5256 2 жыл бұрын
I had an eating disorder. I helped myself. I did try to get my parents to help but they decided living in denial was where they were emotionally and I knew I was on my own so I helped myself.
@lixlix4689
@lixlix4689 2 жыл бұрын
@@minab5256 same it’s hard but not impossible
@ronvernicamarie6050
@ronvernicamarie6050 2 жыл бұрын
I notice she keeps saying “feeding myself properly”. We’ve seen enough videos of her eating absolute junk to know that yes, she was eating, just not “properly”. Making bad choices is not the same as not eating at all.
@lisad9376
@lisad9376 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@DeluxeDeluxe
@DeluxeDeluxe 2 жыл бұрын
For the record every Anorexic does not starve 100 percent of the time. I restricted my calories to 700 a day. For 7 years. I don't think I always ate that much, but I did eat.
@lysseast2380
@lysseast2380 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. She is either intermittent fasting or has BED or bulimia (where she'll binge then not eat for a period of time to compensate). And she meets NONE of the other criteria. She has no fears of food or being fat or any other symptom. Also, larger people can be anorexic, but you can't be starving yourself and not only not lose any weight, but look like you've gained weight. She's full of it and as a person who struggled with anorexia I'm PISSED. I don't know if I've ever disliked a celebrity as much as I dislike her.
@friedrice4015
@friedrice4015 2 жыл бұрын
I could see her having a binge-purge cycle where she purges by fasting or something and her wack ass body positive medical team can't tell the difference
@dismurrart6648
@dismurrart6648 2 жыл бұрын
I have bed and my mom was anorexic so it passes me off. I used to go days without eating. I'd follow with a binge and still struggle with fear of lack of food. Tess doesn't just hurt people with Ana, but people like me because it's already hard to get people to believe you don't actually like to eat when you look like me
@aimeefriedman822
@aimeefriedman822 2 жыл бұрын
This pisses me off, as well. I can't believe that SHE believes this Bullshit. Where she gets the nerve to make money on this lie, is disgusting. There's no way I believe she loves being fat. It's torture and she'd trade it for anything except putting down sugar and starch.
@lysseast2380
@lysseast2380 2 жыл бұрын
@@dismurrart6648 Yes I was thinking the same thing. To be ignoring the binge side of this it harms people with BED too bc the treatment for anorexia is different from BED. With anorexia typically you're encouraged to engage in less food control, but with BED that's what you need. By ignoring the binge side it's basically saying just eat whatever it's fine but that isn't helpful for what she actually has
@BoringTroublemaker
@BoringTroublemaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@dismurrart6648 you: “people don’t believe that someone who looks like me could suffer from an eating disorder” Also you “ she DEFINITELY doesn’t have an eating disorder because of how she looks” You can’t be serious.
@rachmaninovwasemo2313
@rachmaninovwasemo2313 2 жыл бұрын
Anorexia doesn't even need to be accompanied by intentional weight loss. You literally need to lose weight to have typical Anorexia. While she might very well have restrictive behaviors it is OBVIOUS they are accompanied by binging behaviors too. Any medical health professional would know this (I am a Healthcare professional). And the fact she is leaving that out is such a slap in the face to people who have typical Anorexia which is exactly how she is making it sound. We need to stop tippytoing around this because we are scared of being rude. It's wrong what she is doing. Obviously 99% of us wouldn't judge someone who actually has Anorexia or if she said she had restrict and binge type. But let's stop this loud minority from controlling rational voices.
@whateveriwant8039
@whateveriwant8039 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and I don’t think Tess has ana, but you infired (idk why I couldn’t figure out how to spell that) that you people with ana don’t binge, but, as far as I’m aware, binging behaviors can be a part of peoples anorexia. Have a great day 😊
@sleepypixie3489
@sleepypixie3489 2 жыл бұрын
@@whateveriwant8039 i think they mean that tess binges more than she restricts (like someone with BED or ednos) rather than someone with ana who will go from a week to numerous months without binging
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
@@whateveriwant8039 How can people with ana binge if they are afraid of eating ( which is part of the criteria )? That makes no sense. Ana diagnoses are made *if* the criteria fit. Even atypical anorexia has to meet the important criteria. If not, then the person has another ED. PS: F.e. It'd be ridiculous if I claim that I am an atypical POC, when I am completely caucasian in fact. Why are some people nowadays so willing to bend reality so obviously? And why has the society stopped calling them crazy? Now we say "Yes, you're right!" to everyone, who says that the grass is red. Are we actually living in an idiocracy?
@idgafcba
@idgafcba 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gaia_Seraphina People with anorexia can/do binge, it's a fact.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
@@idgafcba Prove it!
@alijane6675
@alijane6675 2 жыл бұрын
Complete self absorption. Imagine thinking everyone in the world was reacting to her anorexia story for weeks. The ego required is astounding.
@RachelReduces
@RachelReduces 2 жыл бұрын
The glow in her eyes when she talked about people talking about her "diagnosis". smdh
@kyla2423
@kyla2423 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 right! Her emphasis on “around the world…for weeks…”. Like girl gtfoh - no one was talking about you in my country.
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 2 жыл бұрын
Dietitians don’t diagnose. The can send info to your referring physician and say they may need be evaluated for an eating disorder. If Tess said she had bulimia then I would completely believe that. People who binge and purge can be overweight because the don’t purge all the calories so they gain weight. I also believe that she wants to be anorexic because binge eating disorder would mean that food was the problem. She wants eating to be ok. She wants overindulgence to be therapeutic.
@Mara-kw6uo
@Mara-kw6uo 2 жыл бұрын
In UK dietitians are qualified and regulated health professionals that assess, diagnose and treat dietary and nutritional problems
@RubyBlueUwU
@RubyBlueUwU 2 жыл бұрын
You literally hit every nail on the head here.
@akaneakane1969
@akaneakane1969 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely seems like she has a turbulent relationship with food, but to call it ANA without getting a clinical diagnosis (from what she's made it sound like in the interview) is such a terrible & dangerous way to handle something as sensitive as this.
@Just_Geo_anime
@Just_Geo_anime 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I picked up on that to! She said it was her dietitian that diagnosed her. I’m not sure that one can clinical diagnose that but I don’t think this person is a doctor. I Could be wrong though!
@wwondertwin
@wwondertwin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a dietitian, we don't diagnose. We can report to a medical doctor if there's a suspicion but a dietitian will never make a diagnosis of an illness. I cannot think why a qualified RD would do that, but I can think why someone using the unprotected professional title "nutritionist" would.
@Just_Geo_anime
@Just_Geo_anime 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwondertwin ah okay! Thank you for clarifying ☺️
@rabidfish88
@rabidfish88 2 жыл бұрын
That's wild. She outright states that the person who diagnosed her couldn't (i.e. was not qualified to) diagnose her. So she has no diagnosis. Anything else is irrelevant at that point.
@CitizenCardigan
@CitizenCardigan 2 жыл бұрын
Her "dietitian" certainly must have said Atypical Anorexia, which is possible . Not Anorexia Nervosa. She may be starving her body of nutrition. Malnutrition is more likely.
@bethrocks
@bethrocks 2 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense. My doctor said that obese people are often malnourished! And when we think of malnourished, we usually think of skin and bones but it's just the lack of nutrients in a persons body and diet.
@susi9242
@susi9242 2 жыл бұрын
No atypical anorexia is not possible either, bc you need to have lost a lot of weight due to your disorder very rapidly at some point, which she havent.
@cocktailonion696
@cocktailonion696 2 жыл бұрын
I have a history of restrictive ED. I once burst into tears and had a major breakdown in the grocery store because I couldn’t figure out which lettuce would have the fewest calories. I lost 50lbs. in about 3 months and was in less than 800cal a day in that time period. I body checked obsessively, weighed myself multiple times a day, calculated even the smallest crumb that passed my lips down to the calorie. EVEN THEN, I did not fit the clinical definition of anorexia. She’s absolutely deluded.
@blazincate9348
@blazincate9348 2 жыл бұрын
A DEFINING factor of eating disorders, ESPECIALLY restrictive EDs, is the pre-occupation with not wanting to become fat. Anyone who’s talked with a doctor/dietician/psychologist about EDs can see straight through her bs. Her saying this means she’s either she’s been lying her whole career about being body positive or she has a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to have a disordered relationship with food. Guess which one I think is more likely. Not eating purely based on temporary external stimulus like work or illness does not constitute an ED, if it did, i would’ve been “anorexic” when I had food poisoning the other week. What a pitiful attention grab.
@neonk2222
@neonk2222 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfectly stated. I really have no clue how whoever diagnosed her came to the conclusion of AN.
@Gna_d54
@Gna_d54 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. There's tons of people who "forget to eat" and fast longer than they mean to. That is not in any way shape or form the same as deliberately starving yourself because you want to be thin.
@doobieddooo
@doobieddooo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she probably just restricts a a couple times. She is nowhere in danger of starving. I’m certain she has eating issues, but she needs a proper diagnosis. Her dietician was not supposed to diagnose her, it seems like she just ran with it.
@vaughnhaney7020
@vaughnhaney7020 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, I have an eating disorder that's defined partially by NOT focusing on weight/fat so... It's rare but possible. However, I agree with the rest of your comment.
@blazincate9348
@blazincate9348 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaughnhaney7020 that’s true, I hadn’t thought of that when writing this comment. This was mostly to say Tess’s situation wouldn’t even flag an ANA screener let alone grant her a credible diagnosis
@zEropoint68
@zEropoint68 2 жыл бұрын
orthorexia and anorexia are two different eating disorders, and the problem with paying an instagram nutritionist to agree with you that you have anorexia when you clearly don't is that you never get actual help for the eating disorder you actually have. tess has a food control issue, which is about what i'd expect for someone who's made food, its consumption, and its impact on their body such a central part of their self-image, but that issue isn't anorexia, and an actual doctor would have told her that.
@7792pnaurfr
@7792pnaurfr 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. A nutritionist has ZERO qualification to diagnose. In fact, nutritionists have zero legitimate qualifications. The licensed, and professionally trained ones are registered dieticians, not nutritionists.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a criminal act if a person without qualifications diagnoses people for money? It is in Germany at least and such a person would end in prison.
@ashleymiller7482
@ashleymiller7482 2 жыл бұрын
hold up a nutritionist diagnosed her. wtf. i thought only doctors/psychologists can. i’m at school to become a registered dietitian which is much more complex than a nutritionist. and i don’t even think i can diagnose eating disorders. i know i can refer patients to psychologists and doctors and doctors can pair me with those suffering from eating disorders. like how can a nutritionist do that??
@extrules
@extrules 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!! My sister was a competitive ballerina and got her nutritionist certificate when she was 15 years old so she would know how to maintain her physique. Nutritionists can be actual children.
@asteelcup859
@asteelcup859 2 жыл бұрын
Orthorexia isn't even a real diagnosis, stop using this fad disorder
@somecanadiangirl1
@somecanadiangirl1 2 жыл бұрын
TLDR: people aren't skeptical of her anorexia claims because of her weight, they're skeptical because of her behaviours
@alijane6675
@alijane6675 2 жыл бұрын
So…her story is that she doesn’t eat. Mkay. Well, if that were true, she’d be wasting away. She’s not wasting away. In fact, she’s glowing. Further, dieticians cannot diagnose. They are not even qualified to speculate. And lastly, Tess knows the fat acceptance movement is running out of steam. She’s very PR savvy. She needs a rebranding, and she’s trying this out. If we wait long enough, she’ll soon start losing weight and sharing a new perspective. Anything to catch the public eye. I wish folks would stop equating obese people with Tess. She is clearly the exception, and not the rule.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
The fat acceptance is running out of steam? How come? I still see it thriving on social media.
@Cherryblossoms110
@Cherryblossoms110 2 жыл бұрын
holler holler
@doodledude8190
@doodledude8190 2 жыл бұрын
No shade, but if she took off her makeup maybe we'd see it then. Malnutrition is starvation, but girl honestly looks not half bad.
@jeffreycater5447
@jeffreycater5447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gaia_Seraphina I think the shadiness of a lot of the fat acceptance celebs is coming to light, and if not that just ridiculous statements they make are actually being fact checked. It’s making people think twice about what people are saying. Not saying fat acceptance is bad, no one should be ridiculed for who they are. But people like Tess give it a bad reputation and unfortunately that sticks to the movement
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
@@doodledude8190 Malnutrition is when you don't get enough nutrients in your food, esp micronutrients like vitamins and minerals. It affects your health in the long term and causes diseases, which can shorten the life span. Starvation is when you lack food, not just nutrients. Being hungry for a while isn't starvation. It is starvation, if it already destroys your body ( protein decomposition of your muscles - incl. the heart muscle and other vital organs ). Starvation leads to death eventually, if not stopped in time. It happens faster than with malnutrition and it's a painful death ( malnutrition is more subtle health deterioration ). Unfortunately giving suddenly food to a starving body also causes death.
@triciaa7259
@triciaa7259 2 жыл бұрын
There is ZERO way that she is even Atypical A. She would NOT be showing that much of her body and there is NO WAY that she'd EVER be eating (and even eating from a whole cake) ON CAMERA and posting those all over social media. Gotta love that she had to come back around and whin.... I mean... share her "truth" a year later. As soon as the attention starts waning too much something else just HAPPENS to come up
@oe9993
@oe9993 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, as someone with an ED too, I'd rather die than eat on camera, it took me years to just eat in front of friends
@AnaParadisi
@AnaParadisi 2 жыл бұрын
Listen... I live in a country that is a disaster in terms of economy, and I literally was starving. I lost 40+Kgs because of that... Nobody is going to tell me that she is starving when I looked at starvation in the eyes every day when I saw myself in the mirror!
@Flow-sy
@Flow-sy 2 жыл бұрын
I still feel so upset seeing this as someone who actually has this diagnose. Here in germany they didnt take my situation seriously until I was heavily underweight and kept fainting several times a week. And then there's tess complaining over people not believing that a woman this size is not starving. I do think she might have an ed, but it definitely isn't anorexia and, as you say, maybe even just some bad habits around food. Edit: maybe upset wasnt the right word. I dont feel attacked by her ,its more like im a bit confused
@jaxo5679
@jaxo5679 2 жыл бұрын
Why would someone else's actions upset you... I have disordered eating and I don't look at what other people are saying to define myself. What she says about herself has NOTHING to do with you. Your diagnosis shouldn't become you. You are not the disorder. So I don't understand why you take it so personally. It doesn't hurt you AT ALL
@girliepunnk
@girliepunnk 2 жыл бұрын
Well plus size people can be diagnosed with anorexia. Fear of food is only one criteria. (Actual licensed therapist here)
@girliepunnk
@girliepunnk 2 жыл бұрын
The three criteria for anorexia nervosa under the DSM-5 include: Restriction of calorie consumption leading to weight loss or a failure to gain weight resulting in a significantly low body weight based. There are current arguments to remove the BMI criteria and moved it to give criteria of severe
@msbeaver83
@msbeaver83 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxo5679 Because Tess lying and being so outspoken in such a public forum is doing a disservice to all the people who do actually have atypical anorexia. It makes a mockery of it and people won't take it as seriously. This could affect people getting treated.
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 2 жыл бұрын
It is possible to have a dual diagnosis, for instance of anorexia and bulimia at the same time. This may mean that the person has not lost weight to dangerous levels but their eating disorder behaviours fit the criteria for both EDs at different times. It is my belief that she definitely has another type of eating disorder, either bulimia or BED.
@GrumpyToast1971
@GrumpyToast1971 2 жыл бұрын
She should have picked a different ED to say she has.
@CocoLicious
@CocoLicious 2 жыл бұрын
But then she had to actually work on it and not be this miracle fat person who never eats. She has problems, yes, but her first interest is making money off of fat acceptance etc.
@GrumpyToast1971
@GrumpyToast1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@CocoLicious so true!
@gounipanthers1
@gounipanthers1 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on, John. It often feels to me like Tess is great at giving people just enough truth to make her lies or misguidance or misinformation somewhat believable. Thanks for breaking it down and dissecting the BS.
@visibleghost1
@visibleghost1 2 жыл бұрын
I see this a lot in fat activism communities, claiming to have a restrictive eating disorder (commonly anorexia nervosa) while obese as a defense against criticism. "I'm anorexic, you can't tell me to eat less to lose weight" is a perfectly reasonable statement to them. I think it is a brownie point thing, an attention thing, and a disordered eating thing taken to the extreme. Disordered eating and a bad relationship with food/eating can suck but they're not eating disorders. It's like the thing where anyone who's sad sometimes has clinical depression. While MDD is a very very common diagnosis that can vary in severity, there's still diagnostic criteria and saying people who do not fit those criteria are depressed is watering down the way people view MDD and other depressive disorders because "oh well, EVERYONE is a little depressed :)". Same thing with eating disorders, if everyone who has skipped meals a few times with the intent of losing weight (a lot of people have done this) has an eating disorder then the term doesn't mean anything anymore. many people experience disordered eating and that's a whole issue in and of itself, but an eating disorder is so so so much more than disordered eating and I feel like no one in these communities who claims to have an ED for sympathy understands that. And OF COURSE me and others saying this is the reason overweight people aren't taken seriously when they struggle with an eating disorder. it's not like the people faking eating disorders are the reason people think eating disorders can be anything now. lol.
@cellblocknine5385
@cellblocknine5385 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@mrdad-zl9zl
@mrdad-zl9zl 2 жыл бұрын
I see this all the time too.
@TheSlamMiles
@TheSlamMiles 2 жыл бұрын
100% - disordered eating is a symptom while eating disorders are a very complex mental illness with a set of symptoms. same thing with mania where people (usually with bpd) confuse impulsivity/feeling euphoric as single symptoms with mania which is a whole ass diagnosis with an extensive list of symptoms. the mental health conversation has seriously become so diluted with “x maladaptive symptom means i have x disorder!” which just silences the fuck out of people struggling with x disorder. maladaptive symptoms deserve attention + resources too but having a slice does not mean you have the whole ass cake.
@visibleghost1
@visibleghost1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlamMiles definitely agree, people are sometimes way to quick to self diagnose issues because they experience one aspect of it. A super funny and not at all extremely frustrating and disgusting thing these people do is alienate people with the actual disorder. I've seen it in ASD spaces, SH spaces, ED spaces... it's just so weird and gross and I definitely understand the frustration of people claiming mania/any other symptom when they don't have it and water down the term. it sounds gate keep-y but like what are you supposed to do when people who actually shouldn't be part of a community want to barge in and get mad at people for not listening to their unrelated issues
@TheSlamMiles
@TheSlamMiles 2 жыл бұрын
@@visibleghost1 people need to realise gatekeeping actually isnt oppression lol. medical gatekeeping is actually good sometimes…??? so people can have communities that relate to their experience instead of people barging in like “WELL ONCE I WAS REALLY ANGRY AND LASHED OUT AND THEN IMPULSE BOUGHT THINGS WITHIN A 3 HOUR PERIOD SO I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE BIPOLAR.” ppl that whine about it remind me of straight cis people who complain about being left out of the lgbt community. its not a space for you because you dont have the same experiences. you might have had some similar experiences, but it does not affect you the same way it affects the community, and guess what youre not gonna die for being left out of a community thats not for you. its just so fucking intrusive and gross. and gatekeeping medical terms is actually necessary because when you dilute them they are no longer medical terms used to express your specific experiences! i know, im so evil right!
@KiieMi_
@KiieMi_ 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has struggled with anorexia for several years - now in the process of recovery - I agree you don't have to be underweight to be diagnosed with it. I wasn't always medically considered underweight due to my weight fluctuating. That being said, I was never overweight - I would restrict my eating to the max and avoid food that would get me fat - so when I hear about her experience and see the behaviour she portrays (eg posting videos of her proudly eating big amounts of food when the mere thought of eating in public used to make me so anxious), it's hard for me to believe she was/is anorexic. I do believe she might be struggling with another ED but anorexia seems unlikely.
@Rechtauch
@Rechtauch 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, an anorexic person would never eat in public like that, unless you are trying to make a point so that your parents leave you alone and then go throw up or purge yourself... but if that is what she was doing, then she would have to give some explanations to the body positivity community... anorexic or body positive. It is really one or the other.
@balbaal7305
@balbaal7305 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I suffered from anorexia myself (now recovered) but it makes me absolutely livid seeing how she portrays it. She makes it seem like someone who skipped a meal bc they were busy or simply not hungry at all is immediately anorexic. I dont think she knows what anorexia actually means. The hours and hours amd hours you spend crying over that one tiny slice of bread you ate bc you think it will make you gain weight. Or all the days you spend obsessively planning what you will eat etc. And i totally agree with what he said in the video somewhere about 11 minutes that if someones doesnt eat they would most likely not be at her size. Good luck with your recovery. It’s possible ❤️ you can do it!
@LoveAllTrustFew1
@LoveAllTrustFew1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Tess is just busy all day and doesn't stop to eat so she wolfs down mass amounts later in the day. And then she's confused as to why she gained weight because to her, she was hungry all day. Meanwhile she likely consumed two days worth of calories in a short time span.
@bubbles6839
@bubbles6839 2 жыл бұрын
See, while I really do feel bad for Tess, I feel very frustrated sometimes. I can't diagnose her, but from my own eating disorder this just doesn't feel like anorexia? This is just my opinion, but anorexia (at least typical) is characterized by an obsessive desire to lose weight. Forgetting to eat isn't obsessive (which I heard Tess say multiple times, she was just putting it off, not for any reason, she just put it off). Maybe I'm mishearing but that sounds like *forgetting to eat*, not having anorexia. It frustrates me because to me it feels like boiling anorexia down to just not eating, which isn't really the case.
@summerraine3622
@summerraine3622 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have anorexia, but I've been in multiple eating disorder group counseling session and for you to boil it down to only having a desire to lose weight is no less harmful than someone boiling it down to not eating. Eating disorders are very different for every person.
@casebased8391
@casebased8391 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely not anorexia. To be anorexic you have to be at a significantly underweight BMI, according to DSM 5. Tess is nowhere near that.
@whatisthis1958
@whatisthis1958 2 жыл бұрын
@@summerraine3622 An *obessive* desire. They also clarified it was only the main thing they think of when thinking of their diagnosis, implying they are aware of the other symptoms. What they said in the comment isn't incorrect, just incomplete. They clarified it was based on their own experience, and didn't speak as though it were fact.
@catherinearredondo2092
@catherinearredondo2092 2 жыл бұрын
When I was anorexic, I used the "I just forgot to eat" card so people would leave me alone. Granted, I was severely underweight and am still suffering health issues from it. It was physically obvious I was lying. Also, if anyone actually paid attention, they'd hear me talk about weight A LOT. Like, I would always bring up how I needed to tone up (it was excess skin from previously being obese). I was completely obsessed with my weight. Every waking moment was spent worried about if I was skinny enough. I NEVER said "I'm happy with my weight". It was always "I can do more, I just need to keep working out". What bothers me about Tess is that she says she's happy with her size and then says she's anorexic. No anorexic person is happy with their size. That's why they're starting themselves. And usually, they aren't just starving themselves. They're working out, checking the mirror 20 times a day, and looking a pictures on their phone criticizing every picture. It's a terrible mental disorder. It's not inconvenient... it's dangerous
@coloradocrystal2510
@coloradocrystal2510 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you feel bad for her? She is quite literally making this up for attention. She is using a real disease to her advantage when she quite obviously doesn't have it. It's disgusting. SHE is disgusting.
@jenrogers572
@jenrogers572 2 жыл бұрын
I think she definitely has an eating disorder but I don’t think anorexia is the thing. It sounds like over restricting and then binging. This is what I experience as an obese person. But I was anorexic in high school and lost a lot of weight at the time. I don’t think you can be truly anorexic and not end up losing weight.
@somethingaboutsomeone
@somethingaboutsomeone 2 жыл бұрын
What you are describing is literally anorexia. Just because your binge is so big that the starvation afterwards doesn't compensate for it doesn't change the diagnostic...
@EA-rt3pi
@EA-rt3pi 2 жыл бұрын
@@somethingaboutsomeone if what you’re saying is the case, then what’s the difference between AN and BED? Binges follow restriction with BED it’s not like they randomly spawn.
@johanna2690
@johanna2690 2 жыл бұрын
@@somethingaboutsomeone It literally changes the diagnosis. There are different diagnosis to describe different disorders.
@AKbaby89
@AKbaby89 2 жыл бұрын
So I struggled with anorexia as a teenager, then went to binging&purging, which has been my issue since basically. So to watch Tess say she was starving herself when we all know she was never *actually* starving herself is just dismissive of everyone who has actually dealt with that. If Tess wants to start talking about binging, sure, go for it, that's what it definitely seems like is happening, looking at not only her weight but also what she herself has put out there of her eating massive amounts of food at one time. But her saying she's starving, when in reality she just wasn't eating for a few hours, just irritates me so bad
@ashleyashleyashleyyyy
@ashleyashleyashleyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry ✨ hope it gets better
@jinxjinx9841
@jinxjinx9841 2 жыл бұрын
what your describing is bulimia. which can be a symptom of anorexia.
@AKbaby89
@AKbaby89 2 жыл бұрын
@@jinxjinx9841 I know what I have, idk why you felt the need to comment that, but ok. But bulimia and anorexia are different things
@michellevincent180
@michellevincent180 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I went through the same thing, first anorexia and then bulimia in my teens. I wasn't overweight but I thought I was obese. I wouldn't eat anything all day but a cup of air popped popcorn without salt or butter. If I was around food I'd get disgusted and kind of panicky. I felt like if I ate a cupcake or a cheeseburger that I'd just die. Then, after starving myself for a few days I'd get so hungry I'd binge on whatever was in the house. Of course, I'd just feel guilty and so I'd purge a few minutes later. Talk about a bad relationship with food! Luckily, I got help and I'm better. My point is: Tess Holliday hasn't shown any fear or loathing of food like that. Does she ever show a real urgency to binge? Does she ever show remorse and guilt about it? She may be different offscreen but what and how she eats onscreen is the complete opposite. It *is* irritating.
@Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6
@Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6 2 жыл бұрын
Anorexia must be hard to recover, I myself never had anorexia but had binge eating disorder. When I originally saw the news of Tess having anorexia I knew she was lying, me and other people knew she had been lying about her whole anorexia thing. She clearly is belittling those who've really suffered from it and it goes to show that Tess is just doing this whole Ana thing for fame while not caring about the feelings of others who've gone through this type of eating disorder.
@senoir.
@senoir. 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely starve at any size, it only starts to show itself physically after months But I agree on you saying it does sound like intermittent fasting (I'd guess compared to her usual diet it did feel like she starved)
@ayeshalooyestyn5757
@ayeshalooyestyn5757 2 жыл бұрын
If she was starving herself at the size and weight she is currently at, You would notice really quickly. Literally within a month she would of dropped a ridiculously high amount of kilograms
@thedaywalkervlog9860
@thedaywalkervlog9860 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayeshalooyestyn5757 correct. I lost 60 lbs in 2.5 month by fasting. It woulda been even more if I had a real disorder.
@ayeshalooyestyn5757
@ayeshalooyestyn5757 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedaywalkervlog9860 Firstly I want to say congratulations on loosing 60lb, As long as you were / still are fasting in the correct way I am super proud of you and you should be super proud of yourself. And secondly yes it would of unfortunately been a lot more if you had fallen into the ED specifically the one that Tess decided to claim that she has.
@showerpwner
@showerpwner 2 жыл бұрын
I think she'd be ok. There's a documentary of a guy who doesn't eat for like a year and he drops over a hundred lbs. Like hibernation.
@thexshattered
@thexshattered 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's more like intermittent fasting. She's gained weight over the past years. In heavier individuals, for it to be atypical anorexia there has to be weight *loss*. They don't need to be emaciated, but there does have to be weight loss and NOT gain - and she's gained so much weight the past few years.
@MarieJesne
@MarieJesne 2 жыл бұрын
My conspiracy theory is that she knows she's not healthy at her size and is putting on this whole act so she can eventually lose weight and maybe save herself before it's too late. Then when her HAES fans turn against her for losing weight, she can pull out her ED and say "How dare you attack me! I'm ✨ suffering✨ from A.N.!"
@kyla2423
@kyla2423 2 жыл бұрын
💯! I think so too. In my opinion, most of the obese people in the HAES community just use all the BS excuses because it’s their only point of defence - they know their lazy and overeat and it’s easier to attach themselves to that narrative than to actually seek help and get healthy. Once the ankles and knees start breaking down, the fertility issues, skin problems between the body rolls and flaps all start appearing then suddenly all the diagnoses and excuses start coming as to why their suddenly purposely or accidentally losing weight.
@MrsLilpiglet
@MrsLilpiglet 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking this exact thing since she first announced it to the world.
@MOET02
@MOET02 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what she’s doing!! There’s no way a person her height and at almost 350+ close to 400 lbs can be happy, or even comfortable
@sus4nah
@sus4nah 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you!! Thanks for the video
@Chlores
@Chlores 2 жыл бұрын
As a recovered anorexic person this was so strange to follow... i wish if she wanted to discuss anorexia she would talk about the way it ruins and consumes your life. Like I would cry if someone made a mistake on an order and gave me a full salad instead of a side salad... I counted the calories in chewing gum. I was the most boring person in the world because all I did was think about what I'd eat the next day and hate myself for being "fat". I literally could talk about nothing else, it consumed me entirely. Being anorexic is not "forgetting" to eat. It is possible to be in a bigger body and experience that same distress around food, but tess doesn't speak about that. Which is a shame because god knows having anorexia is a hard thing to describe and could use someone with a platform reflecting on it.
@necronyx7176
@necronyx7176 2 жыл бұрын
Tess: "Anybody at any weight can starve" Audience: *starts clapping* Everyone with an ED: stop 🙃🙃
@Jess-Rabbit
@Jess-Rabbit 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the interviewers face, she looked like she was confused why people were clapping. She's like, bitch please.
@oliviaoil4010
@oliviaoil4010 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody can starve at any weight... BUT starving makes you lose weight not gain... Tess is so infuriating
@oliviaoil4010
@oliviaoil4010 2 жыл бұрын
@༺Joe's-girl༻ actually that's not true. As someone who got diagnosed with atypical anorexia while still over weight I had all the same complications as someone who is underweight. It doesn't matter about your weight, it matters how much you feed yourself. You can die from starving while obese as starving will destroy your heart. Only if you lose weight healthily your body uses fat storage. If you starve it feeds on muscle. The heart is a muscle. Which is why starving leads to heart failure never mind the weight
@oliviaoil4010
@oliviaoil4010 2 жыл бұрын
@༺Joe's-girl༻ you can't decide what your body feeds from. If you did intermittent fasting and not for extreme periods of time(days) then you were still feeding yourself and not starving. Starving means not eating enough which causes your body to turn muscle in to energy as your brain cannot get enough energy from the body's fat storage. I did have a different experience as I said I have atypical anorexia meaning I would eat less than what a new born baby needs. I'm still suffering from the side effects from starving even though my body is at a healthy weight now. Tho I struggle to keep above underweight
@CocoLicious
@CocoLicious 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she is malnutritioned. Yes, she is not fuelling her body correctly. Yes, she very well experiences disordered eating. No, she is not starving. No, she doesn't have anorexia. She is still not that special that the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to her.
@ThePainkiller9995
@ThePainkiller9995 2 жыл бұрын
"I can't diagnose you, but if i could..." translates to: "I'm not going to give you a real diagnosis because I'm gonna get in trouble for it but i will tell you what you want to hear"
@stephaniekanoun4409
@stephaniekanoun4409 2 жыл бұрын
The most important thing for our health, mental and physical, is to find treatment that works. To realign. You don't necessarily need a label to get the treatment that helps your body. I've heard of mental health clinicians not naming a diagnosis, but choosing a treatment option that works. Whatever Tess is going through, she needs to think more about moving forward with help and treatment than everyone accepting a label (diagnosis; alleged or otherwise).
@Cherryblossoms110
@Cherryblossoms110 2 жыл бұрын
preach!
@Ikine557
@Ikine557 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I've had therapists say to me that they only gave me a diagnosis for insurance purposes and we just need to take my symptoms how they are.
@leopardshadow333
@leopardshadow333 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, exactly what I wanted to say but better said. A diagnosis isn't an identity, it's a way towards action on symptoms.
@melanieburd1416
@melanieburd1416 2 жыл бұрын
I went to dinner at a friend's house. Their daughter had two giant servings, then complained that she was starving to death. She just wanted attention, because after being told to go eat a piece of bologna, she was no longer starving.
@goddessmelanisia
@goddessmelanisia 2 жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed borderline anorexic in high-school. I was 5'7 and a size 0. I worked out 4 to 6 hours daily. I was living on 1500 calories a day. She may be suffering malnutrition and disordered eating, but not anorexia.
@nathanielhaug2122
@nathanielhaug2122 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having a different colored shirt so I knew where to skip to!
@bhappy1664
@bhappy1664 2 жыл бұрын
My friend weighs around 400 lbs. She is always saying she barely eats. But...she eats at night and what she does eat is always very high calorie foods and in larger amounts. Even if she "snacks" during the day she snacks on things that are high calorie but yet she thinks she isn't eating. She is convinced the only way she can lose weight is if she starves herself and works out constantly. But that just isn't true. She definitely doesn't have a healthy relationship with food and has convince herself she doesn't eat very much. But when I lived with her I gained weight super fast simply because I snacked with her and ate the things she ate while also hearing her say she doesn't eat.
@leannaraye123
@leannaraye123 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your hair, John!!
@vintagecameragirl
@vintagecameragirl 2 жыл бұрын
I have suffered with restriction, with a dislike for food and then binging for years. My doctor once told me 'I wasn't a very good anorexic" as I wasn't skinny yet. I had been starving myself for 2 years at that point to the point of nutritional deficiency. I was about 250 at the start and 190 when I started working on that.
@ashleyashleyashleyyyy
@ashleyashleyashleyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
F*ck some doctors ! Ugh ! 💜
@sprig.sprout
@sprig.sprout 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so fucked! I’m so sorry that happened. I’ve dealt with stupid doctors before too and it just blows my mind.
@jaxo5679
@jaxo5679 2 жыл бұрын
There's no way. You can't starve yourself for two years and only loose that amount of weight... Something doesn't add up.
@vintagecameragirl
@vintagecameragirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxo5679 my tdee is 1800 kcals now as I have a disability then would have been less. So a 60 lb loss eating maybe 500-1000 kcals a day. Like I'd starve for three days and then be made to drink build up shakes which were 1500 each.
@jacquelinewatt1241
@jacquelinewatt1241 2 жыл бұрын
Starving, is the wrong word , she has access to any and all foog ALWAYS, Starving is extreme hunger and not knowing where your next meal is or will come from
@emmathomas6184
@emmathomas6184 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it is possible that this nutritionist "diagnosed" her based on false information Tess gave her. I've seen sometimes she posts how she never eats breakfast, or doesn't eat a lot at all. She probably told her nutritionist that she doesn't eat very much, and lied about how much she was actually eating because she was embarrassed. Like when people are asked by their doctor how much alcohol they consume.
@bellagarzia9653
@bellagarzia9653 2 жыл бұрын
Being busy and forgetting to eat is not anorexia. Anorexia is when you get home from school and congratulate yourself for eating under 400 calories for the day. Anorexia is when you refuse to eat anything with any amount of fat or carbs in it. Anorexia is when you weigh yourself and are happy that you, a grown adult, are under 100lbs. She pisses me off sm
@WileyCylas
@WileyCylas 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like she knows exactly what she’s doing & the look on the interviewer’s face says it all.
@Jess-Rabbit
@Jess-Rabbit 2 жыл бұрын
For real. The interviewer looked so perplexed when 2 people in the audience started clapping for her. She was like....what
@DeluxeDeluxe
@DeluxeDeluxe 2 жыл бұрын
I am someone who struggles with anorexia type 2. At my worst, I was eating 700 calories a day or much less. 700 was the cap. i was also purging what little I would take in. This was triggered in me when I found out my mom was terminal with cancer. I starved for 7 years, and struggled at the same time with occasionally eating larger amounts of food with the intention of purging, or being triggered to purge even small meals like garden salad. It has been a really scary battle. I have been hospitalized for hypokalemia and suffered with fainting and tachycardia. However when I started allowing myself to eat more whole foods with the intention of recovery, I started drinking alcohol to cope with my emotions instead of just food. I ended up gaining back a total of 40 lbs at this point. I am considered weight restored. However I am not recovered -I am still vomiting multiple times a day and restricting. I quit drinking a month ago ( yay!) But I have a lot of work to do with my recovery. I really hope she understands that while I don't compare my struggle with hers she did not realize how many sick people like myself would be angry with her for her callousness. I wanted to be sensitive to her about this but I don't know why she didn't get more of a legitimate diagnosis before coming out with it.
@hairyfrankfurt
@hairyfrankfurt 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, there are atypical anorexia cases. However there still needs to be an inherent fear of fat and weight gain. She has gained weight throughout her life online, which, for an actual anorexic to do.... is beyond unheard of. She has been actively eating fear foods and enjoying weight gain, promoting body positivity and fat activism.... That doesn't happen in anorexia, typical or otherwise.
@ellabiddy4741
@ellabiddy4741 2 жыл бұрын
The “intermittent fasting” thing is basically what I did when I was struggling with disordered eating, and that’s the reason I never say I actually had an eating disorder, it was disordered eating. I tried to starve myself over and over again, but all I would think about was the pizza in the fridge and I gave up. I would do that a lot and sometimes didn’t pack lunch to school on purpose, and I craved the feeling of hunger. But it wasn’t uncontrollable like anorexia is. I never lost weight and each day I probably ended up eating enough because i always ate breakfast and some kind of dinner. I went to therapy a bit and after I went through puberty my body dysmorphia got better and the urges stopped. I say this to say that I think she could very well be struggling with body insecurity, compensating with all the “I love my body and I love eating” content. What I dealt with was a constant battle of “I should love myself and not feel guilty about eating snacks” vs “I should stop snacking so I can lose weight”. She’s not fully confident like she always tried to portray, but I highly doubt she’s anorexic. She needs to change her mindset before her habits.
@parteh_kitteh
@parteh_kitteh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of curious to see what will happen in the next few years with the "health at every size" and Tess and folks like her. I think similar to the recent wave over the past few years that wised up rejected the 1200 calorie diet and the "crack thin" trend of the early 2000s, recognizing that was unhealthy and destructive. I wonder if in the next few years we'll see a similar wave that starts to realize that health at every size and normalizing obesity was also a bad trend.
@CocoLicious
@CocoLicious 2 жыл бұрын
My husband had the first two very obese friends dying of heart failure in their late 30s/early 40s in the last few years. This movement will be an extreme mess in 10 years.
@parteh_kitteh
@parteh_kitteh 2 жыл бұрын
@@CocoLicious Sorry to hear that. That's what I imagine, as they start to age what might happen to their their opinions of this movement. I worry and hope though that it doesn't cause a drastic swing back in the other direction of being overly underweight.
@mrdad-zl9zl
@mrdad-zl9zl 2 жыл бұрын
it will definitely come. I recently saw a TikTok of a fat positive creator who was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and because of that is now forced to monitor her diet and eat well because otherwise she will get insanely I'll. Commenters, her fans I suppose, told people not to make it about her weight as she looked well over 300 pounds.
@clifeguimaraes6955
@clifeguimaraes6955 2 жыл бұрын
Covid and obesity lethal combination!!!!
@hugomarquez3189
@hugomarquez3189 2 жыл бұрын
If she’s anoxeric, I’m a polar bear. Seriously, she’d have lost all the weight if she was. You can’t continue being 400 pounds while being anorexic, it don’t work like that.
@alternifeind15
@alternifeind15 2 жыл бұрын
I think her career is stalling and this is how she's dealing with it. Which is fucked! So many people have come out to say she's not a good person and she's not good to work with so I definitely see this as her trying to hold onto her career as much as she can.
@emilyjones7617
@emilyjones7617 2 жыл бұрын
John back with the sponsor! Get it my guy
@theautuitiveishere
@theautuitiveishere 2 жыл бұрын
I will add though - when I was 17-22, I had a severe addiction to laxatives and was still larger (around 185lbs). No one would have thought of me as having disordered eating but I ate junk and handfuls of laxatives. So perhaps she doesn't eat "well" and perhaps it could even be classed as disordered but to say it's anorexia I think science would dispute.
@gbrieannful
@gbrieannful 2 жыл бұрын
Do laxatives help with weight loss? I might try them.
@theautuitiveishere
@theautuitiveishere 2 жыл бұрын
@@gbrieannful don't recommend. They don't help with weight loss unless you take WAY too many and trust me when I say 20 years later I'm still dealing with the health implications from that.
@t_ylr
@t_ylr 2 жыл бұрын
I would usually never doubt someone's diagnosis. I feel like even if someone's lying that's none of my business, but by her own story she was never diagnosed by an actual doctor. You can literally lookup the definition of Anorexia. Excessively low body weight is in the definition. I'm not a Dr so I could be wrong, but I don't think you can be fat and Anorexic
@Ikine557
@Ikine557 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely start overweight and develop it, but it would start to show pretty quickly.
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 2 жыл бұрын
You can have a diagnosis of more than one ED at a time, so someone may not become dangerously underweight. Or someone could lose weight but because they started at a high weight not reach the underweight category. Tess fits neither of these scenarios though!
@ac-fp9lx
@ac-fp9lx 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why she has to be so dishonest. She doesn't have anorexia, it's literally impossible. You have to be underweight to be diagnosed with anorexia nervosa. It is part of the criteria. Maybe she has atypical anorexia, but she does not have typical anorexia nervosa. That dietician had no idea what they were on about and now Tess is spreading that misinformation for the sake of attention. It's sad.
@lunatarg04
@lunatarg04 2 жыл бұрын
“atypical” anorexia is literally just regular anorexia, it’s not impossible to have anorexia nervosa while being overweight. although i don’t think she specifically has it, you can have it at any weight and i wish they would diagnose people with it more often while not being underweight. don’t mean to come off mean or harsh btw!
@StillNotMarble
@StillNotMarble 2 жыл бұрын
I would caution you not too put so much credit on the DSM definition of anorexia. I know that sounds nuts, but the DSM is not a psychology bible. There are tons of things in the DSM that certified officials vehemently refuse to accept, and the DSM definition of anorexia has been harmful to anorexics for many years. Even with the inclusion of atypical anorexia, it creates thresholds where a person who is suffering from the foundation of anorexia is refused acknowledgement until they are deemed "sick enough." Which is incredibly damaging to a person with anorexia and ultimately solidifies their eventual descent. If anything, it gives them a goal. That would be like telling a person that they do not have depression until they've had a suicide attempt. I dont know what Tess Holiday is, but I don't think her weight discounts her mental health.
@lunatarg04
@lunatarg04 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 i never said she specifically had anorexia, i actually said the opposite. i have an ed, and when i was 50 lbs overweight vs now, i had the same behaviors & same ed mentality i have now. the only difference from then is i hadn’t lost the weight yet. but i totally understand where you’re coming from as well, hope you take care of yourself ♡ ♡
@StillNotMarble
@StillNotMarble 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 people at her size can drop 20 pounds and look the same. It's the paper towel roll effect: 10 sheets on a full roll looks like noting. 10 sheets on a half done roll takes off a lot. People with anorexia should not have to wait until they prove themselves as real, before they get help. They should not have to wait until the drop 50 pounds before seeking assistance. they should be recognized at the first display of the mindset so that it can be treated immediately. Please take a second and step back from this thread to clear your head before continuing. You sound as if this conversation is very personal to you, and you should reflect and address your feelings privately before continuing. Trauma clout is harmful and toxic and will drag yourself down as well at the people around you. Her experience does not invalidate yours. Her anorexia being real does not make yours fake, and vice versa. You are worthy of help and love as you always have been.
@StillNotMarble
@StillNotMarble 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 take care, I truly wish you the best. I hope you find peace on your road to recovery. Know that even if it takes you another year or another ten years, you are worth the effort and are deserving of love, forgiveness, and compassion.
@anastaciazara1787
@anastaciazara1787 2 жыл бұрын
Herein lies the problem with unqualified people making unofficial diagnoses: the client believes them, even when they're explicitly told it isn't a proper diagnosis. Now she's out here trying to convince herself and the world that she's anorexic, when what she really has is poorly timed meals due to busy-adult-itis. Meanwhile, who knows how many thousands of people are self-diagnosing with anorexia based on Tess's claims. Being diagnosed with any condition, especially an eating disorder when one is struggling with eating and body image, can cause some really negative mental health outcomes unto itself. A false diagnosis is no different and may be inflicting years of unnecessary anguish on the people who fall into this trap. This is reckless and callous behavior on Tess's part. Edit: This doesn't even touch on the horrific insult she's doing to everyone who struggles with anorexia.
@paulinameyer8387
@paulinameyer8387 2 жыл бұрын
We also should consider the fact that fast food messes up your hunger cues, so that could explain why she feels like she is starving
@JordanStar7
@JordanStar7 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I am thin but there was a time where I was just eating fast food and the hunger cues were so off. I’d be hungry again so quickly. Whereas now I’m eating my own fresh cooking and I am not feeling that intense hunger pang
@toffiet3347
@toffiet3347 2 жыл бұрын
Anorexia nervosa is the physical type so as she said "the amaciated body" if she does have anorexia she has atypical anorexia. It is important to identify the habits and not the weight because it puts people in less danger
@aw8951
@aw8951 2 жыл бұрын
That girl eats a lot and always has. She probably thinks skipping a meal or overthinking food is a mental disorder in her mind. I will never ever think she has anorexia no matter what label you give it. She could take her required vitamins and minerals and not eat for a year and still be fine
@WileyCylas
@WileyCylas 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. My insurance refused to cover my eating disorder bcs I was at a healthy weight. Best to stop bad habits from replacing old bad habits
@WileyCylas
@WileyCylas 2 жыл бұрын
However, I don’t think this wealthy socialite of a girl has to worry about insurance or other “poor ppl” or “commoner’s” problems
@honestyisadyingvirtue
@honestyisadyingvirtue 2 жыл бұрын
The only difference in anorexia and atypical anorexia is the BMI. An atypical anorexic would still have to meet the other criteria for anorexia and she comes no where near that, _at all._ She has no problems eating food, is supposedly proud of her body, etc. She has an eating disorder for sure. She just picked the one she thought would protect her the most (especially if she actually does start to lose weight, by choice, because her body will start giving up on her. That's been my hypothesis from her first announcement). Giving her that out is an offense to people who actually suffer from this horrible disease. She needs to go sit in an ANA class with actual anorexics so she can hopefully get a grasp on the harm she is causing to one group while doing a disservice to her fans & the other group by not bringing attention to the true disorder she has. But Tess cares about Tess. These actions have made that perfectly clear.
@toffiet3347
@toffiet3347 2 жыл бұрын
@@honestyisadyingvirtue I know she's not but personally I don't feel comfortable saying she's not. But even if she is she's deliberately choosing the wrong one, she's choosing an anorexia that has a body type attached
@hannahboebanna
@hannahboebanna 2 жыл бұрын
thankyou for shedding light on this absurdity!! also i really wanna say YOUR SET UP IS SO GOOD!! dark background, you’re lit, the keyboard, it’s all really well done 👏🏼
@lilrosetattoo
@lilrosetattoo 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be we thought people who overcame their circumstances were brave. Now we call victims who perpetually talk about their struggles “brave.” We need to quit giving people like Tess air time.
@MyRevengeJ
@MyRevengeJ 2 жыл бұрын
John *gets a sponsor* Me: YAAAAS KING GET THAT MONEYYY
@beansmom1341
@beansmom1341 2 жыл бұрын
When I first heard this story I laughed. I was like so she is starving herself from being bigger than she is ?!! It's the only thing that could possibly make it make sense to me. She has no shame to pull this
@Randaronii
@Randaronii 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever “diagnosed her” should be fired or have any licensing for being a dietician revoked. Many things/Ed’s have similar symptoms which is WHY you need to have a phd or specific license to diagnose
@emilymatt8904
@emilymatt8904 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for her. She's dug such a hole into a specific niche that if she ever wants to lose weight, she's going to lose all her fans and get so much back lash.
@JeDindk
@JeDindk 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like her one bit and I do NOT feel sorry for her. But I do think you have a very, very good point, which I have not thought about before. 👍🙂
@emilymatt8904
@emilymatt8904 2 жыл бұрын
@Jens Drejer yeah I don't like her either. She's very manipulative. Typical case of someone trying to get paper at any cost.
@bethrocks
@bethrocks 2 жыл бұрын
That happened to a KZbinr John posted about too. Alexandra Rodriguez. She's been "body positive" her whole KZbin career and gained 200+lbs. always claiming she loves her body and how she looks. And now she had gastric bypass because that was all a lie. Nobody can feel good about themselves at morbid obesity
@andianderson3017
@andianderson3017 2 жыл бұрын
This is like an alcoholic saying that they realize they just aren’t drinking enough. She clearly has disordered eating and I have so much compassion for that and I can’t help but feel bad for someone being left to life in that kind of delusion without help. She needs help, love
@andianderson3017
@andianderson3017 2 жыл бұрын
….compassion and respect. Whoops posted too soon. Anyway, what she doesn’t need is validation of her delusion and to be made into a role model for how to live. If she’s talented then by all means let’s honor her regardless of size and then support her around however she needs or wants to deal with such a difficult issue. But let’s not praise and enable the behavior as something to copy or look up to. Everyone has demons. We don’t need to make them our business. But she makes them our business and then tells people to do the same. THAT is what is worth disrespecting.
@Hayakoneko
@Hayakoneko 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody her size is starving. Anybody with eyes can see she's not anorexic lol
@Treerootz1
@Treerootz1 2 жыл бұрын
She IS starving, but it’s because her stomach is never full no matter how much she eats lol
@Hayakoneko
@Hayakoneko 2 жыл бұрын
@@Treerootz1 haha fair enough :D
@bingbong6478
@bingbong6478 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in high school I was diagnosed with anorexia nervosa. And I was fat! I was 280 pounds and people were bullying me because of it. So I stopped eating and started exercising soooo much. I lost 65 pounds in 4 months. I was getting so many compliments about me losing weight which just fueled me to keep going. I was fainting often and covered in bruises. my blood levels were all outta whack. The thing I remember the most was the horrible heart palpitations. my doctor told me I was killing myself. Worst time of my life. I find it really hard to believe Tess was struggling with this. Especially after the “can’t diagnose you but if I could” comment. Yikes.
@Spidergirl_Jay
@Spidergirl_Jay 2 жыл бұрын
Elden Ring has made me unproductive too lol such a great game
@baquerka
@baquerka 2 жыл бұрын
She’s just like an old friend of mine, she only hears what she wants. The dietitian said if she could diagnose her which she can’t, it would be anorexia and she RAN with that. Like why would you tell the world you have anorexia, specifically, without an ACTUAL diagnosis. 😒
@LanaJoy78
@LanaJoy78 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Some dietician who is probably also fat saying that sometimes skipping meals is AN is MADDENING.
@baquerka
@baquerka 2 жыл бұрын
@@LanaJoy78 Well I wouldn’t assume the dietitian is also fat, but I would assume that she/he wasn’t given ALL of the relevant information. It would make more sense that she concluded in her own head that she had anorexia after doing very little research, then fed the dietitian the appropriate info in order for them to make the same conclusion and that was her “gotcha” or “see I told you!” moment that she could use to fuel her story.
@jenmessier2195
@jenmessier2195 2 жыл бұрын
Anorexia has a specific DSM criteria one of the criteria for the diagnosis of Anorexia is very very low weight and a BMI less than 17. She does not fall into this category. I would say she is more of a binge eating disordered person..... just by all of her videos and such.... I am not trying to judge her at all, just using facts.
@marzipan2555
@marzipan2555 2 жыл бұрын
But it's also a fact that there's a newer type of anorexia that also includes fat people. This is why we leave Psychology to the pros
@jenmessier2195
@jenmessier2195 2 жыл бұрын
@@marzipan2555 I 100 percent agree but she doesn't seem to fit that either. I actually have a specialty in EDs
@jenmessier2195
@jenmessier2195 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaclyn Ann VLOGS!💚 thank you 💗
@GinaBlythe
@GinaBlythe 2 жыл бұрын
@@marzipan2555 Atypical Ana usually is presented with Ana behaviours but the person is at a normal, healthy weight. Key words: Normal and healthy. Tess does not meet that criteria either. She may have had anorexic tendencies since anorexics don't start off looking like me. They usually start off in larger bodies. But, Tess has PUT ON weight. Tess doesn't meet the criteria of Atypical either.
@BassetHoundCharlie350
@BassetHoundCharlie350 2 жыл бұрын
I just came across your channel and I was very impressed with how kind and balanced you are in this video. You presented your case with logic and balance. We need more like this! People willing to call out nonsense but with kindness and rationality
@sharmika04
@sharmika04 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! Sponsors! This is well thought out and from all sides. I never judged Tess for what she said. The main fact that remains is she is clearly unhealthy. When is she going to put her physical health first as much as she does her mental health?
@jok7548
@jok7548 2 жыл бұрын
tbh it pisses me off that she's getting so much air time about this utter bullshit and literally no one is calling her out (on TV), everyone is just believing her, or just doesn't have the balls to address all the contradictions because they're scared they'll offend someone, but what she's doing is literally SO offensive and insensitive.
@jsavannah123
@jsavannah123 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being that self centered.
@jdw5889
@jdw5889 2 жыл бұрын
She equates the feeling of hunger caused by ghrelin to starvation. A starving body eats itself, she has never starved, she is the exact opposite, she is literally 300lbs from starving.
@ayeshalooyestyn5757
@ayeshalooyestyn5757 2 жыл бұрын
I have zero sympathy for Tess, I highly doubt that she’s ever even felt Hungry let alone f*cking felt Starving.
@CocoLicious
@CocoLicious 2 жыл бұрын
She probably feels hungry all the time from all the empty calories she's eating, god forbid one vitamin sneaks in there
@ayeshalooyestyn5757
@ayeshalooyestyn5757 2 жыл бұрын
@@CocoLicious She most likely doesn’t “Feel” hungry all the time, It’s more like she “Thinks” she’s hungry all the time. To get to the size that she’s currently at (and obviously she’s been real heavy for quite a long time) she’s clearly probably binged quite a lot and also mistaken being bored as a hunger cue. So because her eating habits, I highly doubt that she knows when her body is actually hungry and when her body is actually full. And I know she eats empty calories but f*ck me they definitely add up as she eats a tonne of them most likely every day.
@blessthiscrazymess
@blessthiscrazymess 2 жыл бұрын
Her body is starving for nutrition/nutrients not starving for calories or food intake.
@LizaExplainsItAll
@LizaExplainsItAll 2 жыл бұрын
When I’m anxious I lose my appetite and accidentally intermittent fast…I think this is what she’s actually doing.
@samanthasynful4049
@samanthasynful4049 2 жыл бұрын
Tess, there's children starving to death in the world...
@lunaazzurra7995
@lunaazzurra7995 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she should go visit Ethiopia or similar and look into the eyes of people who are truly "starving".... Being hungry till you next eat is NOT starving...ffs sake this girl just is ridiculous...the fact she has such influence is even more so....
@Astropheminist
@Astropheminist 2 жыл бұрын
Tess: “I’m starving myself” Me: *puts on glasses* , *pulls out TDEE calculator*
@JB-nw1ix
@JB-nw1ix 2 жыл бұрын
To me, Tess is a person of the moment. We live in times where people refuse to accept reality and others are afraid to call out the delusion because to do so is hateful. She is what our society has come to.
@Greatlakeskyle.
@Greatlakeskyle. 2 жыл бұрын
100% right. She just feels from her perspective that she was starving. That isn’t true starving.
@ashleyswann7342
@ashleyswann7342 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but she “didn’t expect this to blow up”?? Please
@ratos62
@ratos62 2 жыл бұрын
What Tess did now? it just gets worse every time
@RachelReduces
@RachelReduces 2 жыл бұрын
The most, she did the absolute most 😩
@avalauren4731
@avalauren4731 2 жыл бұрын
Disorder eating is different than having an eating disorder. I overeat sometimes. That’s not the same thing as a binge eating disorder.
@joeytribbianicore
@joeytribbianicore 2 жыл бұрын
Not her pretending she's never had a big Mac before 😂😭
@sdf592
@sdf592 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad. I was bulimic for years, i started when I was fat so noone knew for a long time. everyone complimented me on my weightloss, fueling my illness. I told a doctor flat out that I puke three times a day and he didnt ring any bells because I was fat. Having ED is horrible and having ED while fat is making it very hard to get help and her behaviour in this is just damaging everyone more.
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly. You can have disordered eating at any size. There are at least 6 known eating disorders. I thought at first, Tess was confusing anorexia, with eating disorders.
@LanaJoy78
@LanaJoy78 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks she has AN needs to have their license revoked.
@gruffencip
@gruffencip 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@hatch2141
@hatch2141 2 жыл бұрын
She really rubs me the wrong way. I remember when I was fully into my ED I ended up scarring my liver after years of deliberate starvation. Anorexia is uncontrollable and I was so scared to eat and feeling full was terrifying. It’s clear that she’s just intermittent fasting and being hungry every now and again. ED’s, disordered eating and Ana aren’t a contest…but there’s no way she’s anorexic
@Grace-in9jd
@Grace-in9jd 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who struggles with an ED, it can be frustrating when people who say "I just get busy and forget to eat a lot, so I kinda get it" because for me personally, that is impossible. Food is on my mind almost 24/7. I never forget to eat, I choose not to. Forgetting to eat would be a blessing in my eyes, but my brain is constantly plagued with the thought of eating, it is exhausting
@PoppySeed47
@PoppySeed47 2 жыл бұрын
What I think her dietitian possibly meant/said is she has anorexic type behaviours. I 100% believe Tess probably struggles with cycling in-between bingeing and then restricting but there is a reason her dietitian couldn't officially diagnose her. In my 20's I weighed 24st, I would binge like crazy then feel so bad I would bin the food left in the house and starve myself for as long as I could and cycled like this for years until I got my weight & eating under control. I did have a terrible relationship with food & not enough is done about the ED at the high end of the scales. I feel like Tess heard the word anorexia and ran with it without speaking to ED specialists/professional first.
@animegirl-xp7ex
@animegirl-xp7ex 2 жыл бұрын
As person with anorexia there is two kinds of the illness (the one being under weight and one were you don't need to) tess is claiming to have the first one and yes anorexia is a mental illness as much as it is physical but you to be put in the first one, one of requirements is being underweight
@christybalancinglife8998
@christybalancinglife8998 2 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely think she has more of a restrict/binge way of eating. She’s obviously overeating even if she’s skipping meals.
@kcg1235
@kcg1235 2 жыл бұрын
I think by “starving”, she actually means that she felt hungry. Her definition of starving was snacking throughout the day with whatever was left out. That is not anorexia. Her “diagnosis” came from a person who is not qualified to give diagnoses. It’s like a teacher diagnosis a child with ADHD. They might have some experience in seeing it, but they ultimately do not have the knowledge and resources to properly diagnose.
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to tearfully open up about my battle with being 7'4" and continually hitting my head on hard surfaces.
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