So this is what Africa has been doing

[@OBFYT]

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[@Stellar-Cowboy]

Cool video man - little mistake: the EAC logo doesn’t include the DRC as a member country, yet your map in the first minute does include it.

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[@tentangturkey85]

Can you make the video about The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) too? in order to compare this multilateral cooperation. Thank you

[@maheshrathod5593]

Hi

[@Robin_Is]

Ok.

[@KenLinx]

If African countries get united, they may finally have a foot on the world stage. But something tells me this isn’t going to work out-either due to outside influence or infighting.

[@elomial724]

ethnic division wouldn't let that happen and Africa is muslim in the north and christian in the south

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

@@elomial724 it's not that simple.

[@mariatheresavonhabsburg]

​@@mwanikimwaniki6801 People are getting criminally punished for saying "offensive" things about either Christianity or Islam in some African countries. Cooperation won't be easy.

[@abdirahmanhassan1848]

why would africa need to unite?

[@kointhecut5655]

@@abdirahmanhassan1848 Why do you think Europe is United, America is United, United Arab Emirates?

[@IHaventDiedYet]

Somehow this is more entertaining than some actual videos that are inteded for entertainment

[@ecnalms851]

damn you'e right!

[@ljay3025]

Yea reality is often so eventful you can’t help but be entertained so not surprising in the least

[@MrSupernova111]

Yes. I stopped watching "entertainment" long ago and other than my hobbies I spend my time learning about the world. Its much more interesting than fiction to me.

[@maniacontop]

omg yes agreed omg omg

[@ljay3025]

@@MrSupernova111 I’d say the both have their merits, I tend to switch between them

[@michaelomale1975]

As a Nigerian I wished EAF can meet thier core goals and reason for the creation of this community considering the fact that this states are not totally at peace with each. Uganda and Rwanda sponsoring the m20 rebels in a member state of DRC.

[@Soraviel]

I agree, Kigami needs to stop feeding these rebels with money and Uganda

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

To be fair, France and Benelux are funding Catalonian and Basque secessionists in Spain, and those have a history of terrorism. Plus by this point most of EU is funding Scotish and Northern Irish separatists (look up IRA to know about those guys resorting to violence), etc. So having countries sponsor each other's mass killings isn't new for the EU either.

[@ogola7263]

Bro what happened to the eco

[@michaelomale1975]

@@ogola7263 France hijacked it using francophone states.

[@ogola7263]

@@michaelomale1975 let me guess cote dvore was complicit right?

[@Soraviel]

If this ever happens (I'm Congolese) it'd be a massive boon for them collectively, Congo yearns for development and prosperity. If this allows my people to progress, prosper and become economically rich and also embrace their resources better with the world and their partners then the sky is the bloodclart limit 🔥

[@courthogan3140]

Congo is a failed state and is beyond repair. I’d flee and never return.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

It won't allow anything. You won't magically become richer by joining a union with poor nations.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@kordellswoffer1520 It will increase trade but it's not going to happen anyway simce Rwanda funds rebels in Congo

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

@@kordellswoffer1520those poor countries are a lot richer than congo

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@TheSwedishHistorian everyone richer than the Congo. Being richer than a homeless man doesn't make you rich.

[@SC-RGX7]

Feel like Rwanda will be a big winner in this. As a country without seas to allow for international trades, it can use the other associates resources.

[@megaman1806]

It definitely is. Well said

[@mariotheundying]

Now it will have access to both sides of Africa!

[@Anonymous-hp1tg]

Always want Africa to prosper, love from India 🇮🇳

[@courthogan3140]

I’ve always wanted to see Africa prosper, and I’ve always wanted to see India perish in a famine. Love from America

[@AfroVersity]

We love our Indian brothers and sisters for such support. No wonder we've traded for many years even before the west came along.

[@Soul_ReaperO7]

@@AfroVersity where are you from

[@Gdsamplify]

@@Soul_ReaperO7 Sri Lanka

[@javelinmaster2]

Africahas always been treated as a backyard. If Africa starts to prosper then other nations have no choice but to see it as their equals.

[@jerrysstories711]

I had great hopes for this project when it seemed like a serious endeavor by functioning countries with a good plan, unifying countries that have ethic, cultural, geographic, economic, and language commonalities. Then it got delayed, for some understandable reasons. But when they added DRC who two members are still fighting with, and S Sudan which isn't even a functioning country, I realized the EAC was nothing but a lovely hope, a symbol, a notion to aspire to that the powers in place had no intention of setting into motion. If they scaled it back to the core countries that could actually function together, it might become a real plan again.

[@albevanhanoy]

Agreed, that's pretty much my opinion as well. The additions of the DRC and South Sudan were big mistakes.

[@ABC-ABC1234]

@@albevanhanoy If they removed South Sudan and DRC, it could actually work! However one minor mistake; BURUNDI is pathetically corrupt and unstable and lags waaaaaaaaaay behind its Rwandan counterpart! They need to be let in ONLY AFTER they reform their country, fight poverty and tackle starvation!

[@albevanhanoy]

@@ABC-ABC1234 I don't actually know that much about Burundi, so I trust you on that.

[@ABC-ABC1234]

@@albevanhanoy It's ridiculously poor and suffers from starvation and corruption, and mismanagement and whatnot. Sorry, not sorry but a country where 80% lives in abject poverty shouldn't focus on being part of a "federation" but focus on eradicating starvation...

[@availanila]

Two things here that make me suspicious of all your memberships to these countries; 1. Burundi is a very fertile place. They aren't starving. And in case all of you forget, they were just as affected as Rwanda by the tribal clashes only they don't have a dictator to equally oppress them all. They're finding their footing. 2. South Sudan isn't "barely a country." They are in fact a country, a working one too.

[@kimlaursen8224]

Such an exciting content you're making on your channel! Keep on the good work

[@Rfpenab]

High speed rail going west coast to east coast in this Union would be incredible and a huge tourist attraction

[@LightSourceTemple]

Just a rail would. They literally have almost no infrastructure

[@Hastdupech8509]

What they need is roads, highways, normal railways. Nobody'll take your shiny 350 kph train to nowhere if it costs 10x the average monthly salary or if it leaves you outside the city: a conventional railway network is therefore what is needed in the first place. You don't start building a house from the roof, do you?

[@dreadinajeep]

China has entered the comment section

[@dylanmurphy9389]

Why is a train line a tourist attraction? I don’t get on a train for the journey, I do it for the destination

[@Soraviel]

@@dylanmurphy9389 come to London you'll be surprised how many people queue up for ancient and new trains from time to time.

[@j.o.g.s8179]

EAC passport can be used internationally. Each member state issues an EAC passport to its individual citizens (to replace National Passports), but regardless, the passport is internationally recognised and in current use -- from a Kenyan.

[@Ragd0ll1337]

As an Indian, I'm inexplicably excited for this development and hope it succeeds.

[@lanz2828]

I do wonder if the nations will unite at some point, that’d be cool to see wouldn’t it?

[@wack...]

That would not be cool at all

[@thetaomega7816]

most of africas problem exist as the nations are too big already lmao

[@AlbemaCZ]

That already happened once

[@joeysal007]

that would create even more problem

[@andrewrobb3258]

Alot of those nations have simular peoples. So this may actually work. If they can make this work they could become a super power.

[@Captionboyful]

I like how much footage of South Africa you used.

[@S.NGWanjiru]

Surprisingly, a lot of East African people know about this, yet don't see any community disagreeing. It is because even before the introduction of the federation, people were engaging with each other in terms of business and travel.

[@terekab5883]

It's true in fact we respect each other and we have a common language Swahili

[@mariotheundying]

I just hope it starts with the first countries that agreed to it unifying, then after some time South Sudan can join and then after some more time the DRC can join too, and this also with other countries that want to join, that way it isn't delayed

[@ardsam6922]

It's sad that there's going to be a big famine this winter, then. I really want it to succeed.

[@bagaboiebailey]

😳

[@maxwarboy3625]

You have magic powers of predicting the future, huh?

[@s.s_sachi]

what winter. The region only has 2 seasons. Wet and dry

[@dylanmurphy9389]

@@maxwarboy3625predictions aren’t super powers, it’s common sense if you know what’s happening

[@Hakosin-i3z]

@@s.s_sachi damn lol

[@EarnestBunbury]

I guess, that the creation of eu had worked, because it was an organic an incremental process. In the beginning it was just a quite small number of states. Furthermore its scope was limited, so the governments that participated were not afraid to give up power (in the beginning it regarded only the production of coal and steel, but did not aim at becoming a supranational body. Beneficial was also, that the French were afraid of a growing influence by the USA and the permanent threat of the UdSSR. Due to those special circumstances the eu is hardly comparable and any lesson should be taken with a grain of salt.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Every continent should have a federation/union of some sort but it does not need to be like the US or for that matter the EU. However, Africa has been the punching bag for a long time and several of the nations in the region fight eachother making it easy for others (mostly China at this time) to buy them up. It would be effective to create a federation, but there are to much warlord mentality in certain African regions so saying that means little.

[@gouthamsudheer2080]

The West is Literally Waning in Power.

[@GnosticAtheist]

@@gouthamsudheer2080 Yes, due to internal beliefs of the people official colonialism is no longer accepted. Private enterprises however are not regulated in the same way. However, China has no such issue and is colonizing Africa piece by piece, using economic bondage as the prime weapon. The "waning" in power was social in effect but due to Russia and high immigration it is turning the populace away from peace. It is difficult to say what this will lead to. However, "power" is less relevant when discussing actual military capabilities if enough time is available. What is currently available and what is convertible is two very different things.

[@kettelbe]

A federation without being a federation lmao. You dont know what you r talking about.

[@lieutenantcolonel5173]

I would love to see a further in-depth video on this topic again!

[@joeybulford5266]

I haven’t heard about this in a while. I’m glad it’s progressing forward.

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

It's not progressing, tho. And it's likely gonna recede this winter due to famine, sadly.

[@opporancisis5834]

Compared to older Videos it seems like the Organisation is moving Backwards

[@mackenzies8645]

I think it is a disservice to humanity as a whole for "systems" and "governments" to try to contain the people of the African nations. Think about all the innovations in tech, health care, and inventions that could be produced and shared around the world by the people of Africa. But short term thinking is the modus operandi of the people in charge.

[@Koiva232]

ECOWAS could easily do this as well but France keeps sabotaging any efforts to unite...we were supposed to have a common currency for all of ECOWAS in 2020 similar to the Euro but France stopped it at the last minute before it was implemented. I wish East Africa well and hope this federation happens soon

[@ozeppeo]

How could France sabotage this? Who did they influence? Do you have any further info on that? I'm genuinely interested

[@Koiva232]

@@ozeppeo The planned ECOWAS common currency was to be called the Eco currency. It is often said that France never really gave up their colonies in Africa - all of the French speaking ECOWAS countries aligned with France and decided to pull out of the planned common currency and do a 'new' common currency with France and they are calling it...the Eco!

[@rogink]

@@Koiva232 The eco-franc?

[@tylancoleman2862]

@@ozeppeo It was postponed to 2027. Nigeria and Ghana will litterally NEVER agree to something that will put France over them, and they are part of the economic integration of ecowas. They publicly said because of covid it was postponed.

[@chrisomoding9890]

Interference will always be there, we need to learn France's tricks and avoid them. Kick them out the way Niger, Mali and Bukina Faso did.

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

Funny how you showed several clips of South Africa when talking about the EAF. Its like doing a video on the EU and then showing clips of Russia.

[@u.802]

exactly when he showed the clip of cape town , I started doubting everything he is saying💀

[@gregorysouthworth783]

Just an observation: Countries/federations can be initiated at the top, but you need a bottom-up effort as well. I heard the narrator talk about community private businesses which might be a strength--a culture of entrepreneurship. If that could be married to a community development entity which contracts with small businesses and encourages worker owned cooperatives (another form of entrepreneurship) to grow the wealth of the local economy, that could impact people where they live directly rather than perceived chattering by far away elites. If the federation could create institutions to encourage such efforts, might that grow the acceptance for a larger set of institutions to take advantage of economies of scale? It might also have a side benefit of bypassing some of the worst abuses at the "national" levels. I agree this has to be an African solution as Africa is not Europe, or North America for that matter. Still there are some universal characteristics which would be worth exploring--heck, you might avoid some of the foibles of Europe or North America.

[@soviet2850]

Another reason why the EAF/EAC is delayed is because some African countries in the federation (mainly DR Congo and Rwanda) have tensions between each other

[@TheeQuirkyPanda]

Tension? I wouldn't call a proxy war causing thousands of deaths every year "tension."

[@futuredoctor1966]

How about Greece and turkey both are Nato members

[@ibrahimhassan711]

@@futuredoctor1966 NATO isn't the same as the EU, one is a military defensive org and the other is economic and political org. False equivalence, I'm pretty sure Turkey isn't even a EU member. The eu also has security forces but that isn’t its primary function

[@futuredoctor1966]

@@ibrahimhassan711 this African alliance they have military

[@ibrahimhassan711]

@@futuredoctor1966 but it’s not exclusively a defence treaty like Nato which is why turkey and Greece can both be members unlike the EU. It’s being directly compared to EU as it’s more of a political and economic organisation ,military is the last thing the EAC is worrying about.

[@kornchaiwongkiat7218]

Honestly for the East African Federation to go anywhere, they need to just start with the five original member countries first. Once successfully established, it can then expand to incorporate other countries. There’s no way the DRC and South Sudan can join in the state that they’re in right now, Kenya, Burundi, Rwandan, Tanzania and Uganda are similarly stable and organized enough to form the federation. Take it a step as a time, slow and steady wins the race.

[@TDK2K]

Good luck to the EAF. Africa needs to unite and live in peace before any significant wealth building can occur.

[@lecantalouprouge]

Wait, so DRC and South Sudan are officially joining EAF? I thought it was just a proposal for future development

[@kelvinomondi4337]

Both are officially members of the East African Community (EAC) the precusor for EAF. In fact the EAC just sent a regional force to stabilize DRC (hopefully)

[@splitter129]

I Support this!! Humanity should grow further and further together instead of growing apart, only this way we can secure our future in peace instead of destroying ourselfs

[@death_parade]

Forced unity is counterproductive. The idea of nations is a lot nobler than people understand. Humanity must always remain a collective of nations and civilizations. Peace will be forged through cooperation, not through a "World Government" and a "World nation" enforced on all.

[@splitter129]

@@death_parade different nations have different interests, when they oppose each other it leads often to a violent solution of the Problem, especialy if one nation thinks it is stronger, just take a look at history. But ofcourse having different kinds of cultures, people and ideologies in one big country leads to conflicts inside of it, thats why we have countires with federal structure, where federal states have a certain autonomy. With your argument you can also say that nation states opress their respective different cultures in them and are therefore bad. But yes it is obvious that forced unity only leads to civil war, thats why i said humanity should grow together

[@death_parade]

@@splitter129 I am from India: the most diverse nation on Earth. So I am no stranger to either of the two points you mentioned. But my contention is that multiple human civilizations and cultures need to learn to co-exist, irrespective of the differences. That is the true mark of an evolved species. Not some global federal structure.

[@splitter129]

@@death_parade Well yes, a Global federal structure isnt the solution to peace the same as nations are not, but the same way a national government makes it harder for states to fight each other, because they have a common army the same way a Global state would make it harder for nations to fight each other, but you are right the main goal is to learn to coexist but often that coexisting comes in form of Unions and countries because they ensure through laws and an executive force that people, states or nations dont use violence.

[@StackND]

Support the unification of the EAF from Romania 🇷🇴

[@eaturcookiescookie7462]

Same from Portugal, Latin Brother 🇵🇹❤️🇹🇩

[@hoohag5371]

Shouldve delayed entry of DRC and south sudan.

[@Herstal8389]

I myself am very optmistic, This can be a new start for africa! A attempt to actually stabilize and modernize, And stand on the world stage as a independent power and not our resource basket

[@micha2909]

I really wish this project to be a success (and a similar one in West Africa) but i will believe it only when it's there.

[@violachelangat2935]

If we all believe in unity and work for it then everything is possible,but if we keep saying it's impossible without even trying then we make everything impossible. Africa was one before colonization and colonization came along with hatred and hatred brought jealousy,jelousy brought greediness which resulted in conflict among ourselves. From Kenya 🇰🇪I love and respect all all Africans despite of which country you come from and not forgetting Indians who have been good friends to africans without discrimination. May God bless kenya and Africa at large.

[@tamu7243]

This union seems impossible from an outsider perspective. 7 nations, with wide range of cultural, and more importantly, linguistic differences. Kenya and Tanzania are like sister nations, so are Rwanda and Burundi. I could see these hypotherically form unions. Uganda is in an awkward spot in between where I don't see any way they could unite with anyone. The leader is crazy and unwilling to collaborate with their neighbors like Rwanda and Kenya, making things extremely complicated. Then yet alone South Sudan, which is the world's youngest nation which is still facing wars and resource conflicts. South Sudan is so unstable, it could almost be classified as a failed state. The DRC is an extremely corrupted country, and their population centers are so extremely far away from Kenya and Tanzanias populations, that it makes no sense for them to form a federation together. And in the DRC they speak French, whilst in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi, they use English, and a lot of Swahili. The DRC is so disconnected from the rest. They need to work together better, but forming a federation is an aim too high.

[@zebimicio5204]

It made much more sense for all but SS and DRC joining.

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

Lol. Tanzania are our sisters but we ain't federating with them. Uganda is more likely.

[@tamu7243]

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 how would Kenya and Uganda unite? What is there that bonds these two countries? I don't know much about it, I'd like to learn

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

@@tamu7243 Kenyans and Ugandans are more brotherly than Kenya and Tanzania. We are all culturally familiar with each other in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. Our societies interact differently though. Tanzanians are suspicious of Kenyans because we are capitalistic and witty (they say we have "janjajanja" ie trynna be a smart ass). Ugandans on the other hand mostly don't speak Swahili like we do but are friendly and very welcoming to Kenyans and vice versa is true. Maybe now that they're learning Swahili we'll be more culturally closer. There's also the tiny problem of Uganda being autocratic but maybe that could be sorted out.

[@1wun1]

Central and western Uganda is ethnically closer to Rwanda-Burundi and the Kivu-Ituri provinces of DRC, eastern Uganda does the same with Kenya and the northern part is south Sudan extended. Northwestern Tanzania is closer to Rwanda-Burundi too!

[@ieatcrayons408]

1:58 relative stabilitY.... my dude, the drc has been in a civil war since forever

[@candyneige6609]

The East African Federation (EAF) should be renamed into the Central African Federation (CAF), because the introduction of the Democratic Republic of Congo into the EAF has made the EAF not really East African, since the DRC has a coast in the Atlantic Ocean and therefore the EAF stretches from ocean to ocean, which actually makes it more Central African.

[@MrMaboboz]

Ha! And here I was thinking the DRC was landlocked.

[@candyneige6609]

@@MrMaboboz But no, it has a panhandle that extends to the coast.

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

No cause it would get co fused with the central African Republic it should be called the African federation

[@candyneige6609]

@@thelegendarymarioman8461 Then what about the two Congos ?

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

@@candyneige6609 thats just proves my point also lol

[@Laerei]

As an european I look forward to the day when African nations can catch up with the so-called "first world" and provide their people with the living standards that all the peoples of the world deserve. Meanwhile, we live in an absolute excess that could be shared with all. We could eliminate world hunger today if instead of eating too much and throwing away overproduced amounts of food would instead leave it unproduced and send the excess ingredients to where it's needed and also produce food where it's needed. To provide the means to make and even grow their own food, to provide jobs and education, all without the goal of making a profit for someone and without telling them how they should live. All we have to do is to give them equal baseline to grow.

[@iamsheel]

The jews won't like that

[@kasongo-wewe]

I'm from East Africa and i didn't know this

[@jimbennett3788]

I'm an American who believes this will be a giant step in the right direction that will further motivate and benefit the entire continent. I pray for its success. Lord willing outsiders and corruption will not be able to continue to exploit these "developing" nations.

[@1paris1942]

Bruh, you're calling South Sudan and DR Congo "relatively stable".....?

[@DaveLegis]

South sudan js stable goofy

[@Cacishanimations]

Ur channel picture is not a person But actually a bitten donut 🤫

[@26waga]

Joint passport for EAC can also be used across the world. However you can travel to some nations in the EAC with only a national document

[@bread-fish]

The DRC about to destroy this African EU

[@zaidabd7601]

Why?

[@jonathanodude6660]

they wont likely wont be in at first ngl

[@zinjanthropus322]

No they won't, Federation troops are already in the DRC to clear out all 200 rebel groups.

[@mrcar2237]

@@zinjanthropus322 no, it's good. It's like europe hundreds of years ago. Bunch of groups with similar but a bit different lamguages. So if they unite, it can be VERY powerful

[@AfroVersity]

We all speak Swahili except for parts of Rwanda and member troops are already on ground with a ceasefire already being agreed upon. DRC is welcomed into the federation by all.

[@adavidavis2762]

DR Congo and South Sudan are already unable to hold themselves together and enforce government control and rule of law, a union with them in it is doomed to failure, how can you integrate with other countries when you can't even integrate your own nation? Not to mention how DR Congo and Uganda are not exactly on good terms. Without them this would have been quite a powerful idea.

[@MarsVerlaryon]

Except the EAF needs DRC for it's port n SSD too What terms it's just politics

[@adavidavis2762]

@@MarsVerlaryon Nice in theory but still doesn't change the facts on the ground. Maybe in 100 years it would be a suitable member if it manages to bring all it's territories under rule of law and invests in infrastructure.

[@EdwardNakitare]

Just a slight correction. The EAC passports is in operation outside of East Africa. In Kenya, any new passports issued since 2014 are EAC passports.

[@kevionrogers2605]

First they need interstate toll highways then interstate freight railway then interstate passenger railway. If they can manage these infrastructure conglomerates then they can discuss a highway patrol & railroad police to patrol it then form a battalion rapid reaction for regional military force integration. All of this is based on economies of scale by simply having centralized police & military academies with the same standards. The main goals first transportation, communication, policing, defense, monetary, fiscal.

[@HL3AlcAida]

The true plane is the founding of EASF (European African Space Force) and take controle abput the whole galaxy also knowed as "the imperium".

[@SSk5k]

I think adding Somali and congo was a big mistake

[@shafsteryellow]

Yeah we shouldn't have joined... somalia doesn't benefit from this we'd be better off with Djibouti, Eritrea and Sudan

[@Timbucktoo32]

Well done, another great video. Thank you

[@ThatIcelandicDude]

After all these years Mittelafrika is finally being realized.

[@edwintomy6921]

Honestly it could work if we removed South Sudan and the DRC.

[@jefmweds]

As a KENYAN and holder of the EAC passport, I can use it not only traveling within EAF but also anywhere in the world. They’re the new generation passports being issued. The process of having many countries unite and even agree to a single sentence meaning is a huge task. There are many thing that makes up the EAC and looking at the Customs Union and negotiating free movement of goods and services and service providers, I can proudly say that the plan is well in order. Many would’ve wanted the process to be faster but being slow and having all partner states onboard is an important aspect of the EAC regulations. I look forward to a day where people would cross over to Uganda from Kenya without much documentation, people trading anywhere as long as they pay required native taxes.

[@PoolGyall5441]

If this does happen this will without a doubt be the most likely “African Superpower”. However this has been talked about for a while and I know forming unions isn’t an overnight thing but I’ve seen more criticism from both outside and internal voices of this union and I think the DRC joining deterred a lot of people from the idea considering many were iffy about South Sudan joining in the first concept. But I do hope they work something out as this country could be insanely powerful if the right decisions are made.

[@dylanmurphy9389]

Superpower? It will be on par with Poland or something 😂

[@theturkanabus3610]

The EAD is a bad idea. All large African countries are doing badly why would this new large African country be different?

[@degeneration6493]

@@theturkanabus3610isn’t a big country a great thing? More resources and room for growth. Big countries can be successful with good management.

[@theturkanabus3610]

@@degeneration6493 not in Africa, unfortunately. In Africa, the smaller countries tend to do much better than the larger ones eg. Botswana & Mauritius while large countries are doing almost universally badly: DRC, Nigeria & Ethiopia all have 100 mil + people and are extremely unstable politically

[@_VISION.]

@@theturkanabus3610 that's not a causation, just a correlation

[@emera1750]

That little jingle there at 2:31 reminds me of a song by a distinguished Floridian named Baby Soulja, called Trials and Tribulations similar in fact to the struggle to unify that you explained in this video.

[@dt2985]

It was ruined when non-swahili nation South Sudan joined and then completely destroyed with the joining of the DRC

[@oceejekwam6829]

Thank you for "shedding light" on this. I agree with George Ayittey, Africans must design their own solution and not simply "cut and paste" from Europe, it won't work!

[@ianshaver8954]

An alliance requires either a relatively strong country at its core, or an external enemy to unite against. The EU has the latter, and NATO has both. I see neither in the EAC. Many of their enemies are internal. Furthermore, an alliance between mostly democratic countries is a lot easier than an alliance between autocratic countries. The burden of war is shouldered by the ordinary citizen far more than the leaders. As a result, democracies are less willing to pay the costs of war, and thus go to war a lot less often. A dictator is willing to spend a few hundred thousand lives if it gets him what he wants. Africa will have to evolve into something different entirely before it can pull something like this off.

[@aijaeugene2858]

Kenya is the strong country youre talking about even Tanzania and Rwanda are doing well for themselves very peaceful 3

[@fighterck6241]

The world is our enemy.

[@AfricaNetworks-dq4co]

Thank you Mr. Ayitey for this Video

[@TwinRiver100]

Thanks for the interesting video topic. This kind of reminds me of something I think I remember coming across on here a few years ago. Wasn't Muammar Gaddafi proposing some kind of set up alliance kind of like this? This felt a little familiar. Mind you I don't remember the full details of what Gaddafi's alliance system would entail, but I thought the basic idea kind of reminded me of the current system these countries are working on.

[@opporancisis5834]

Its similiar because dictators and war criminals would hold the majority of political influence.

[@samanth.]

@@opporancisis5834 just like George bush, obama, trump, Hilary Clinton biggest warlord in mordern history, America is biggest terrorist state that funds genocided around the world

[@lero_]

Gaddafi wanted a united Arabic world, not united Africa as some people think

[@TwinRiver100]

@lero_ ah, ok, didn't realize. 👍

[@omaryshakiru3870]

In East Africa only Tanzania 🇹🇿🇹🇿 has less internal and external conflicts compared to the rest and that's makes it hard to form a federation

[@Dennan]

good going EAF! i wish you all prosperity and love from sweden

[@filiphedman4392]

I laughed at Doctor Congo (DR Congo) in the beginning lol.

[@LargeGanny]

I hope it works well for east Africa 🌍 🙏

[@tstcikhthys]

0:24 The global _influence_ not "impacts", which makes no sense. Where are people learning this nonsensical jargon from? 0:54, 9:18 Centres/centred _on,_ not "around" (which is from the idiom "revolves/revolved around").

[@maybe6536]

Petition to call the common currency “the Afro”

[@mathewomolo]

DRC is their biggest challenge. if the EAF makes DRC relatively functional and safe, it will succeed.

[@Reyent]

Balkans can into EU! 2:24

[@bitcoinzoomer9994]

Simply due to population, it's bound to become the most powerful nation by the end of the century.

[@theturkanabus3610]

Nope. How has Nigeria fared since independence? It's not what you have that's important, it's how you use it

[@afckajjansi]

China and India are just way ahead. Let's EAC gets accomplished and thrives.

[@shangothunder1055]

@@theturkanabus3610 Better than any country in East Africa; your point?

[@theturkanabus3610]

@@shangothunder1055 😂😂😂 you can't even be honest so why would I bother answering your question?

[@shangothunder1055]

@@theturkanabus3610 That was a different attempt at deflection. Stop acting like a child and try again.

[@UknowWhoWeR]

They need a leader. Unfortunately Gadaffi is no longer living. I feel that he would have been the one who could have actually got the ball rolling on this one. It was a reason he was killed.

[@ericboom1712]

Gadaffi was libyan and arab, idk what he would be doing down in east africa.

[@UknowWhoWeR]

@@ericboom1712 well yes. He was the one that brought this idea back around also about starting their own currency the African dinar. Now he wasn’t the one that originally came up with this idea but he did champion it. He also went against the Arabs to promote Pan Africanism and unity amongst the African nations and he was the chairman of the African Union. So that’s what he would have to do with it!!!

[@afckajjansi]

@@ericboom1712 Qadaffi was killed for the Gold dinar, he was for One Africa and One Currency. Just because he was Arab doesn't mean he wasn't for Africa. He built a lot of army schools and barracks in Uganda.

[@nyumbanituthegendaheka7222]

Magufuli was the best choice..they killed him tho

[@clemente111]

As a Kenyan, half as much as I would love the union....just not anytime soon. the east African nations are almost similar but very different at the same time.

[@courthogan3140]

They’re all the same. There’s no differences. You’re all pretty much the same guy.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@courthogan3140 A Lingala and a Maasai are as different as a Brit and a Russian.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

​@@k.umquat8604so considerably.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@kordellswoffer1520 indeed. As the cradle of mankind, Africa is by far the most diverse continent on the planet. Also I have to correct myself, it should be "Bangala" not "Lingala"

[@courthogan3140]

@@k.umquat8604 nope. They are the same people. Look the same, smell the same, sound the same. I don’t care about their alleged cultural differences. There’s no difference

[@alexanderphilip1809]

EU was a French Institution with Germans drafting the monetary policy(they later hijacked the whole thing). The point being there are no equivalents to those countries that can fulfill the roles that they did in Africa and certainly not in Central Africa. This is bound to be a failure. If this was done after these countries had achieved a modicum of industrial development I would've been a little less pessimistic. The Geography of the whole region makes it a non starter to begin with. These countries cant even govern themselves properly.

[@gouthamsudheer2080]

The European Union is Itself Collapsing. Brexit and Russia-Ukraine War are Best Examples.

[@sparksinteractive1]

The passport can be used for international travel, in fact, each country has changed over from the previous passport to the new one. Travel between most of the member states doesn't require a passport. State issued photo ID is sufficient.

[@kroooassant9899]

Why not? That's the best thing that could happen when people help each other instead. We need friendly countries and interactions not constant misery and war.

[@ricktrickshots2642]

Love your new videos.

[@Omer1996E.C]

We haven't talked about the African Union (AU), but about the east african federation (eaf)

[@jones2005]

I didn't knew, that DRC is actually included in the EAF... When did the consideration of including them happend?

[@_Painted]

I think this will be good for the world. I think Africa as a whole might be too large for a single regional union though (Africa is bigger than it looks on maps), depending on how large of unions humans eventually organize themselves into. I think Africa should have 2 regional unions. East/south + west? But should North Africa go with the Middle East or with West Africa, or does the Maghreb even fit with the EU? Does the Red Sea facing part of Africa go with East African Union or with the Middle East? Is the Middle East even a coherent regional union, considering Turkey might join the EU, or is the EU’s destiny to gradually encircle the Mediterranean like the Roman Empire? If the EU enlarges to include a lot of the Middle East, then the 2 subsaharan regions should merge into 1 super-union to balance the bigger EU (or whatever that union would be called at that point).

[@paul1979uk2000]

As it currently stands, the EU can only expend throughout Europe, but as we know, those lines are quite blurry. There isn't any reason why the EU couldn't expand outside of Europe and have it based on shared values and things like that, but the EU has enough on it's plate in Europe with many countries wanting to join it, if the EU does decide to expand outside of Europe, I don't see it happening until at least 2050 at least. When you look at countries like Turkey, only a small percent of the country is in Europe and yet it qualifies as being a country that could join the EU, the only reason it's not happened yet is because the country is finding it hard to do the changes and reforms needed to join and we see that with other countries that have joined the EU, some do the reforms needed to join in a short time whereas others take decades before they are ready. Basically, it's not the EU that decide when you can join, even thought they have the final say, it's actually the country that wants to join that has the real say and the quicker they do the changes and reforms needed, the sooner they can join.

[@_Painted]

@@paul1979uk2000 Agreed that the EU probably won’t expand out of Europe (becoming something other than the “European Union”) soon if at all. I am just speculating about what the final regional blocks will be when they stabilize as members of a “United World” in the far-future. I think a Union in East Africa is progress towards that future.

[@death_parade]

@@_Painted United world government is a very dumb idea. Humanity should ideally be a collective of sovereign nations. Cooperation >>>>>>> Forced Union

[@death_parade]

@@paul1979uk2000 What "shared values"? EU has such a holier than thou attitude, its never gonna' work.

[@nellym46664]

The regional unions you're describing already exist; the EAC (East Africa), SADC (Southern Africa + the islands), ECOWAS (West Africa), ECCAS (Central Africa) AMU (Maghreb Area), and a bunch more you can look up. The greater African Union itself can be thought of as a UN-type organisation for the whole continent.

[@dwigzo15]

People here think to seem it won't work because of insecurity in South Sudan and the DRC. What they don't know is that it hasn't worked because of the prohibitive barriers to trade cause of the borders left by the Europeans

[@cryptocsguy9282]

@dwigzo15 How do we solve that problem ?

[@dwigzo15]

@@cryptocsguy9282 The complete removal of the free movement of goods and people. Right now, different regions produce different products more efficiently than others, eg. Uganda produces more eggs more cheaply than Kenya does, while Kenya produces value added products more efficiently than its neighbours. Because of the risk of losing political support from chicken farmers in Kenya for instance, politicians often put barriers to trade products freely. What should be done is zoning regions within EA to ensure each region produces one item and producers are assured of a market to the rest of the region and to foreign markets. There's more than enough industries that can be introduced/enhanced to provide everyone within the region with sufficient work and stable incomes.

[@amnofish]

To see this evlove will be very interesting. I hope EU and EAF will grow a good realtionship.

[@redahoujeiri228]

5:12 best picture ever of two protagonist

[@bingeattidore5970]

Africa country need to come together in unite 🥇🤑👌📈

[@marcusaustralius2416]

Tbh, even if the EAF falls apart, Kenya and the surrounding regions have become highly capitalist, with a growing economy It's on the edge of European and Middle Eastern centres of influence, and with no baggage left over from thousands of years of organised civilisation, it retains the dynamism and optimism of frontier cultures, making the region perfect for a new emerging East African civilisation Kenya, Uganda, these countries won't survive the century, but the people that inhabit the region are set to found a glorious East African empire, that will lift all boats in the region, with their successor states going on to dominate the western Indian Ocean The Congo on the other hand, is a mess, I feel genuinely sorry for these people, as the region's geography, hills, rainforest, lack of navigable rivers, is not conducive to large scale civilisation, and is so rich in natural resources that it's too tempting a target for outside powers to fuck with DR Congo will likely have its eastern half eaten by Rwanda and Burundi, with an independent Katanga split off by one of them as a puppet state while the western half oscillates between foreign masters raping the place of its resources

[@ichooseviolence2532]

So Kenya and Uganda will just suddenly stop and die?🤣🤔... and somehow Tanzania will survive? Are you Tanzanian?🤣

[@da5314]

I wish my African brother and sisters the best of success from 🇵🇰

[@oaktownbrown67]

Interesting. Why is there footage of Cape Town at 1:20?

[@knight1506]

As much of a challenge as it is, I hope they succeed, world needs more unity than ultranationalist right now

[@death_parade]

World needs a balance. Too much on either side is a disaster. A world government and the end of nations would also be a disaster.

[@afckajjansi]

@@death_parade this looks like a balance though. South Sudanis never felt like they belonged with the Sudanis. Most of them grew up in Uganda and Kenya. The Congolese never felt like they belonged with anyone until they crossed the border to Uganda. Same goes for Rwandese.

[@Hauwtsauce]

East African federation * has a western coast *

[@khalee95]

It'll be a good thing for balancing the powers between East and West. Of course are the warlords willing to give up power to a federation similar to the EU.

[@RPNDWORLDWIDE]

It'll be worth multi trillions, your maths is way out....

[@zizolam9096]

With its natural resources the success of this federation is imminent and the fact that no western media is talking about it show that it is a good thing for Africa Please push this to happen 💯💯❤️

[@Kevn_DJ]

Good. I’m ready to see a united Africa that I can travel to

[@calvingameplay]

Just stayed in Rwanda for 2 months. It's growing so fast. Just wait and see.

[@mosesoftheblock2311]

I really do not see Rwanda and DRC joining forces voluntarily.

[@FSG_Media]

Nice Video, like

[@adunigilbert6787]

U can't tell our story ,our future is in our hands🇺🇬🇺🇬🇺🇬

[@kingshussein5409]

As Africans We need to stop looking to the outside (colonisers) for solutions and bright ideas, rather we should look within ourselves and help build each other up and grow and expand and bring an African solution to the devastating problems we have today brought by the outsiders (colonisers)

[@death_parade]

Technology and capital will still have to from outside and outsiders.

[@hurremhightower]

@@death_paradeno they won’t

[@noxplanationgaming]

We might get an african superpower before gta5 💀

[@nicocorbo4153]

another great video, obf. I love that you provided a voice for the critics. i do believe that the youth should be able to self-determine east africa's future. there is no need for western hegemonic solutions. it's troubling to see some dictators in the region that still admire the west as an archetype to emulate. i'm not sure what the solution may be, but i'm rather skeptical of the east african federation. maintaining local autonomy and self-sufficiency may be the best route but i'm still unsure

[@julius43461]

Westerners are not saints, but better to emulate them than be a contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Emulate others when they do something that works, it doesn't mean you have to repeat their mistakes as well.

[@sualtam9509]

I don't believe that the local community model operating on groups of max. 250 people can survive in a reality where African cities grow to the population of small (or in some cases medium) countries. It's a model which cements rural agrarianism as the base model of economy too. Self-sufficiency only means renouncing most things provided by and through modernity (i.e. increasingly complex and specialised societies).

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

Emulation is how the world's been developing for the past 800 years. Independence is almost always the best path, but to do that you need to be self sustaining and capable of identifying collision and malicious will

[@mihaisima481]

They are following in their father's footsteps

[@elkiq95]

It's time we had an EAC flag Emoji 🖤❤️💚🇰🇪

[@prayformoe]

If only Nigeria was on the same page.