Obi-Wan Kenobi - Another One Bites The Dust

So we're finally at the end of Kenobi. Was it worth the wait? Did the "Rematch of the Century" live up to the hype? Are you kidding?
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[@TheHobbYT]

Another one of Leia's unrealistic qualities: super speed. The fact she consistently outruns full grown ass men was beyond me.

[@jaredt5127]

mooler - "look at 'er go"

[@darthtripedacus1]

She uses the same goofy run the flash has.

[@crazyralph6386]

Force Baby Legs 😂

[@chasehedges6775]

That whole scene was soooo terrible

[@SamuelCatsy]

She actually doesn't have super speed, she's subconsciously using the force to make everyone else around her slower because she's just that awesome and powerful. Don't pay attention to the OT where her powers go dormant until she gets telepathy in ESB.

[@jeanthemachine007]

When Jar Jar appeared at the final credits scene and said, "it's Jarbin time" - I screamed in joy. The show was truly the most ever

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

GO GO JAR JAR BINKSERS!!!!

[@Moray2023]

"Meesa Jarbin Morbie"

[@Impulset0]

You sum up every positive comment on any obi wan video on KZbin. Lol

[@danm6370]

It's Jarbin time.

[@toddpacker1015]

Kenobin Time!

[@thedangerdave7167]

The thing that drove me crazy was Vader didn’t kill Reva when she failed him. Vaders killed for less in the past but nope the plot needs her. Making that part a waste of time.

[@reek4062]

''weehhh, weehhh, why didn't the white male kill the black woman?''

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

THE MESSAGE

[@junniorcruz9881]

For real even in another Disney film like rougue one he kills a whole military base full of high ranking officers, precious data, and countless soldiers. Definitely costing alot for the empire in so many ways like money, time, and resources because they failed to stop a group of nobody rebels but won't kill reva when she specifically failed an order from lord Vader and jeopardized such an important task for him, kenobi. Let's not forget Vader hates arrogance on so many levels and even more when u fail bc of it which is exactly what led reva to failure. Would have loved to see her get chocked, decapitated like Duku, or even better slain like the younglings

[@reinaldomanuel8488]

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh 😂😂😂

[@thatoneguy4209]

Their gonna give her a show is why 🤮

[@ceili]

Lets not forget reva's decade long plan for revenge against Vadar was to simply sneek up behind him, take a swing, and hope for the best!

[@truthskr7127]

Reva:

[@user-kx1mb9qq4z]

Yup, sneak up on the precog space wizard with decades more experience and training than you. As Tony Stark said to Loki "Not a great plan".

[@Calvinosaur]

Does it count as sneaking up if you scream while you're doing it? Seriously, that scream.

[@ceili]

@@Calvinosaur Your right. It's not really sneaking up then.

[@RONALDDELPER]

What do you expect from a monkey with no impulse control ??

[@unknownvariable9239]

I love that Reva “honored” the dead Jedi by not murdering an innocent kid. This was of course, after years of murdering Jedi.

[@NathanCassidy721]

The imperial changing sides was stupid when Star Battlefront 2 EA did it with Inferno Squadron and it’s still stupid with Reva. And considering the characters that did the heel change were both women and POCs, it just proves that they learned NOTHING.

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂😂😂💯💯💯

[@evanmaley6666]

It's fucking wandavision all over again

[@callmeej8399]

Aw yes good ol morality

[@drrickmarshall1191]

Reva: has basement full of dead younglings. Reva: "Did I become him?" Yes! Yes you did! In fact, you're worse, Vader didn't keep the corpses of the children he killed as trophies.

[@Sultan-cf5wf]

Reva's arc was like high school fan fiction quality writing

[@tommychantzis6296]

No , more like kindergarden levels of fanfiction.

[@shawnm1902]

@@tommychantzis6296 if a kindergarten child writes anything to the degree of abuse put forward in this show, CPS needs to be involved immediately.

[@robland6804]

She's a terrible actor, whoever she is. Really cringe.

[@philmacropulos6875]

That's insulting to high schoolers

[@NathanCassidy721]

It’s not even her character arc as the show runners literally stole it from the Inferno Squadron campaign from Star Wars Battlefront 2 (EA Edition). They took all the bullet points of that campaign from the POC female main character, her story being involved with Princess Leia and her realizing that the Empire is evil thanks to actions SHE participated in. The only thing missing was a simp that served as her love interest.

[@trasen5626]

You guys remember when light sabers were dangerous weapons? I feel like no one has died in a lightsaber duel or from a lightsaber in forever.

[@pattonramming1988]

Jedi Fallen Order but that feels like an outsourced project with the shit quality of Disney Lucasfilm

[@ordinary_deepfake]

Darth maul

[@ordinary_deepfake]

Qi gong

[@alexanderzack3720]

han solo was killed by stabbing, and snoke was killed by a lightsaber

[@Darthligma]

@@alexanderzack3720 he is talking about competent men who can fight

[@1979ce]

Calling reva good for almost killing someone is the same as calling a serial killer good because he let one person live.

[@finnsimpson5253]

Isn’t this the same series where you guys call Anakin a good guy

[@josephsnyder8109]

@@finnsimpson5253 whoosh

[@finnsimpson5253]

@@josephsnyder8109 no… it’s not?

[@BlankBlonk]

@@finnsimpson5253 I don't think anyone considers him a good person, but he is one of the good guys given the side he's fighting for

[@finnsimpson5253]

@@BlankBlonk people do consider him a good person, that’s the whole point

[@saltmines5761]

Imagine plastering Hayden Christenson all over the marketing yet giving him barely 5% of the screen time Reva did. It’s like they knew no one would care for Reva, so they didn’t market her at all even though she gets almost as much time as the title character.

[@reek4062]

Reva was fine

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ-wm5WQiNl4m5o It’s finally here

[@whenpigsfly8178]

@@reek4062 Reva was a bait and switch like op suggested.

[@DMDvideo10]

Disney Woke just doesn't get it... Their attempt to appeal to the smallest of audiences will be their undoing...

[@SteroidWalnut]

Cope

[@JohnnyJoe]

Having Obi Wan and Darth Vader in the same show, and still producing shit is actually impressive.

[@danpollo4208]

Lmao so true!

[@deathstrike]

Yes but it deserved so much more attention!! Look I don't think anyone here has anything against the Reva character. But it was a missed opportunity to introduce a new character, and never gave the audience a chance to see what could be written with TWO of the most revered characters in the SW Universe. We are taking Anakin and his master THE Obi Wan Kenobi. A character so tragic and full of pain and loss, that if anything Kenobi deserved his revenge against Vader. All the pain and loss Vader has inflicted, all the suffering he caused Kenobi. I could have seen Reva even become an apprentice to Kenobi like Starkiller was to Vader. No, Anakin and Kenobi deserved better writing with the care that these legendary characters deserve.

[@reek4062]

prequels did it!

[@jc135276]

Most impressive

[@bjakeijzer]

Honestly, not really. Anyone can put beloved characters in anything of Star Wars and get a clap. But having those beloved characters in it doesn't mean that the thing itself is good. Unpopulair opinion: I didn't like the season 2 finale of the Mandalorion for this reason.

[@pinknoize3047]

I find it amazing how Reva walks off a lightsaber stab compared to how darth Maul only survived due to his rage and anger against Obi Wan. 10/10 writing

[@TheTGOAC]

Wait, Maul came back???

[@bryce____1114]

@@TheTGOAC did u not watch cw, rebels, or solo?

[@Luna-xr3dk]

10/10 writing

[@Luna-xr3dk]

@@internetcomments950 apparently black females are invincible...

[@nickthepick8043]

Worst decision Clone Wars ever made. Now Filoni started a trend where breaking the rules is okay.

[@AussieWristWatch]

OMG the kid who is 10, looks 7 and runs like a 3year old. Spot on! That's what we thought watching it.

[@stangundam01]

this series made me think of a great quote of Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park : "You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves. So you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could. And before you even knew what you had you patterned it, and packaged it, slapped it on a plastic lunchbox and now you're selling it." "So preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should."

[@chasehedges6775]

💯👍

[@Favk21]

Amen.

[@Foebane72]

Patented it

[@JohnSmith-oj4jp]

Wow so profound

[@Mike_Dubayou]

bro just say you say someone else comment this and you thought it was relevant. Theres no shame in that.

[@kieranstrickland1289]

"This isn't about the boy and you know it!" -the last ten years of Star Wars in nine words

[@waynemcleod6767]

Agreed.

[@benhaney9629]

Yeah. Didn’t notice that... lol

[@allent1152]

He destroys the death star twice, turns vader to the light side and destroys the empire but somehow he's not important.

[@drewt1717]

It's about GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS! 😅

[@derekwalter4238]

"The force is female" Fuck off, Kathleen Kennedy..

[@undonesolid1511]

The thing is Vader doesn’t think, he kills without question. It just shocks me how he heard Reva out.

[@transformers_quotes5738]

“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”Ephesians 2:8-9“for ‘everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’” Romans 10:13

[@Ihavehadmanynames7779]

I think everyone knows exactly why that is but is to afraid of saying it

[@GigaChadh976]

That’s not true. Vader was always a very cunning villain

[@MrDanielvass]

He knew who/what she was all along. He was just stringing her along for his own goal of getting to Obi Wan

[@mishynaofficial]

No. He always had his salty comments with him.

[@LOL_Garrus]

Go and listen to Leia's message to Obi-Wan via R2 in the original Star Wars. It's implied from her verbiage that she's never met Obi-Wan before and only knows of him via her father, Bail Organa. Certainly no mention of this crazy adventure they went on in what would have been about 8 years earlier.

[@Samuel0043]

Well a few things. Strictly within the story, her hologram scene in SW was ambiguous and unclear in that respect. It was a message for help fighting against the empire not a trip down memory lane. "Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. After that, you also saved me from kidnappers. Now he begs you.... yada yada". A lack of discussion doesnt mean something didnt happen. Introduce me to your spouse, but without telling me that he or she is in fact your second. Does that imply that you are in your first marriage? Especially these days?

[@spartansquid5931]

@@Samuel0043 It was heavily indicated from the way she speaks and the words she says that they'd never met, it's not a problem with omission, but with everything she says making no sense with this show in mind.

[@xminusone1]

​@@spartansquid5931 Yeah it's true. I've also thought about it. She would have says "you helped me when I was a kid" or something along those lines instead.

[@fullclipaudio]

You've got to give Disney credit for making one piece of shit after another without even stopping to take a breath.

[@acoustify6823]

I feel like the only reason I keep Disney plus is The Orville, once this season is done I think I’m canceling it, disneys marvel and Star Wars is pure crap

[@matterking1]

Circular breathing

[@reek4062]

kenobi is better than the prequels

[@hatman4818]

Honestly, this is why I pirate. Why pay for streaming for one good movie/show when that money funds a dozen trash movies and shows.

[@Fukemaru]

I'll hold my breath next time I take a dump then I'm just like Disney! xD

[@rygy1994]

At this point I am convinced that Qui-Gon wasn't killed by Darth Maul's lightsaber. He just got sleepy but then they burned his body, which is what really killed him.

[@azuldraconic5141]

Oh my

[@RealTanku]

Maul's lightsaber was made in 1999, pre-Disney regulations. Therefore, any slice or stab was deadly. And after one incident with many children in some temple somewhere getting severly hurt with one of those models of lightsaber, they replaced all of them with SafeSabers(tm). Now they don't have nearly the required power to hurt anybody!

[@texasbeast239]

Bored to death from a dearth of Midochlorians.

[@rygy1994]

@@RealTanku What about Anakin's lightsaber with kid Reva?

[@Jeremy-yp8eh]

Tangential, but goddamn are those spambot comments annoying af

[@terminalvelocity3132]

Kinda makes sense now how Owen and Beru died. They could have just let the Stormtroopers search the house, find nothing, and leave. Instead Beru tried to shank an officer on the door step so the whole unit went zero to a hundred Mai Lai on them.

[@colin5577]

Awesome. Makes total sense now.

[@illatek]

Man said Mai lai whoa Nelly 😂

[@azchris1979]

Wow mai lai. I salute ur knowledge, sense of humor, and dedication to references only 5% of people will get.

[@twiggypie2314]

You're assuming "Troopers" is canon?

[@fasillimerick7394]

@azchris1979 I believe that's called the "Dennis Miller Ratio".

[@sharkyprodiver4904]

The funniest part is, there was a hilariously easy way to naturally incorporate Reva's ark into the story that is much more satisfying and sells the "badass woman" quota better. She survives by tapping into the dark side and joins the inquisitorius to harness more power and kill vader. In her carrier and scenes we see of her she is vicious and cruel to the "evil" targets she encounters - thugs, slavers, bandits etc. However, she either pretends to be aggressive to the regular folk or outright doesn't care/helps them whenever her colleagues don't see her. That way we would see a compelling character, someone who tries to hold onto her good values while using dark powers as she doesn't believe the light side was enough - after all, she saw Jefi fail to stop the Sith, clearly they were weak and using rage and hatred is the only way to go. This will also set in her inevitable failure as the dark side will not help her, adding a degree of tragedy. Hell, explore her abandoning jedi philosophies in a flashback or in a monologue/scenes with other characters. Further, make her lack of brutality or cruelty towards innocent people a point of conflict between her and inqusitors to further show she isn't one of them. Reversing the scene on tattooine would be easiest, where it is 5th brother that brutalizes the populace and Reva is the one shocked and enraged by it. Add in some sort of "you are bullies, I am a warrior" argument along the way and show how she pushes herself to the limit by fighting high-power crime lords and more, and there you'll have it, a strong powerful woman character who wants to kill Vader and uses dark side to achieve yet is a very sympathetic and a tragic character you absolutely will root for. As for why she needs Kenobi, it would be quite simple - she knows Vader is very strong and who better tell her about his weaknesses than his teacher? That would also add in why she tries to eliminate other inquisitors from the search and even attacks the grand inquisitor (shit, make a fight scene between the two where the previous quite of warrior vs bully goes in and have Reva prevail by power and tactics, to give us and her the illusion she does stand a chance against Vader. Better yet, make her of a very low rank in the inquisitorius as she doesn't want everyone to see how good she is, and have GI be genuinely shocked and unprepared to fight her even!). Why did it take me 15 minutes to brainstorm this and the top quality writers at Disney ended up making a worse script?

[@chrisb9639]

That would've been much more compelling than what we got.

[@BandAid350z]

It’s because you care about writing a compelling character. You want to hear a story, not have one forced on you.

[@patrik3450]

Why even bother anymore. Let it burn

[@sharkyprodiver4904]

@@BandAid350z ... not going to argue much there. But I am also going to be an optimist here and say people care about stories the write, just have different visions. The alternative is just way too sad

[@BandAid350z]

@@sharkyprodiver4904 it is sad, because they are sad miserable people. As the old saying goes “misery loves company.”

[@bamboozla9977]

When Reva chose not to slaughter a little boy, because that's how thin the morality line is apparently, I'm surprised Obi-Wan didn't tell her "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them"

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

Please no :D

[@3NewDay]

That line makes me cringe so much.

[@ElJefeRules]

She was a true patriot.

[@Sentinel82]

🤣🤣🤣 👍🏻

[@AndrewThoesen]

It's becoming a serious problem in Disney IP

[@efe_aydal]

I can't wait for the "Yoda" series to watch the origin of how Yoda became who he is, to find out on the 2nd episode that it was actually a female YOC (Yoda of Color) who was the real master, and Yoda just stole her title because he's a toxic white male Yoda. And it'll be the YOC show until the last episode even though the name of the show will be "Yoda". So in the end we won't find out anything new about Yoda, but a lot of things about YOC, and that's all that matters. Watching the origin atory of a character we didn't know about.

[@averageconsumer0]

omg yoda of color, that nearly killed me

[@terrified057t4]

Shit, don't give Disney any ideas. Remember, Yaddle exists and I think it best they don't realize that.

[@davidharrison7014]

Oh yes! We're taking about Yodiesha, (or is it Yodiqua) who was Yoda's TRUE master!

[@jtaylor9562]

@@davidharrison7014 Yoda....with braids.

[@nickrd182]

hahahahaha

[@ghillieglas7379]

When I was a kid I saw three Star Wars films. They had their flaws, but there was a lot that was great about them, and they had a great impact upon me. I often yearned for more Star Wars films or TV shows, but nobody ever made anything like them ever again...

[@spartansquid5931]

Honestly, some of the games and books are legit as close as it gets

[@robo2490]

@@spartansquid5931 Yeah, Jedi Knight II was great. Lots of the books. I liked the X-wing series as I enjoyed the space warfare aspect to it. The authors were good too.

[@ThanksHermione]

I suggest watching all 7 seasons of Clone Wars and The Mandalorian.

[@horribleIRUKANDJI]

True. I remember waiting for episodes 2 and 3 -- I could only dream about getting new movies and shows apart from the ot and pt. Actually imagined the Obi Wan standalone movie -- in my mind it looked like a slow-paced and beautiful Kurosawa-like picture that would dive into Jedi philosophy and nature of the force. Young me would have been very upset if he knew what the Kenobi series would actually end up looking like. The grown up me just doesn't care anymore.

[@frankrizzo7746]

I agree. The original trilogy is all that exists in my head.

[@satellachannel6423]

The biggest slap in the face is that ten years from now, when a new row of writers and directors will arrive at Disney and finally decide to take things seriously, none of the legacy actors will be alive or willing to return. Heck, i just remember, "the dead speak" now...

[@TitusAzzurro]

to be fair it would be nice to put the mummies to rest and have fresh stories with fresh actors. The skywalker saga is dead.

[@Bosch_Bosch]

@@TitusAzzurro who cares

[@EpicJoshua314]

Amazing. Every word of what you just said… was wrong.

[@overover..]

I love having my general sense of frustration and disappointment with modern movies broken down and explained to me, it's therapeutic

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here

[@DrZionth]

This video is therapeutically insane.

[@thehammer4607]

True, it’s nice to know other people feel the same about this sad sack of Disney shit

[@cjjuszczak]

Yep, i love listening to shit like this getting ripped a new one, it's a nice blend of catharsis and schadenfreude :)

[@archstanton9073]

@@DrZionth Kind of like being a Browns fan.

[@SavageRicktator]

It's quite astounding how Disney starved a golden goose depriving it of oxygen. Kenobi should've been a masterful home run, with adding multiple layers of depth to Obi-Wan's character. Reva took most of the spotlight away from Kenobi she didn't have any gravitas, whilst lacking any menacing presence being poorly written

[@PavewayJDAM]

Get woke, go broke.

[@masterdeetectiv9520]

they announced a kenobi movie a long time back. instead they turned it into a show and instead of writing it from the ground up they seemed to have stretched out the movie this honestly wouldve been a great oppurtunity to have a star wars movie in the cinemas after to pandemic but they seem to have invested fully into mass producing shows

[@Miuranger1]

too busy pushing their political ideas

[@thegrimharvest]

They didn't starve the golden goose. They just shackled it into as small and cheap a cage as could be found, force fed it nothing but it's own waste, and electrocuted it every couple hours to "encourage" the production of more golden eggs. It's not their fault the goose stopped laying golden eggs. It's the fandom's toxic isms that cause them not to appreciate fecal matter. Look, the Mouse of Sauron went to all the trouble of slapping the "name brand" sticker on the box of fertilizer, what more do you want? What more could you ask for? Isn't it enough that they still call it the thing it used to be ? Close enough just isn't close enough for some people, I guess.

[@ryanbarker5217]

we don't need multiple levels to kenobi's character. literally the only thing this show could have done of any significance was if he sired a child. the rest is absolutely and utterly pointless. the truth of it is these awful writers can't be trusted to take over where the sequels left off... as if anyone really cared about that to begin with.

[@sascher7461]

The only reasons this show wasnt completely bad is that you could feel that Ewan and Hayden really put everything into it and had fun beeing back, also the badass vader scene where he destroys the ship (and hello there)

[@mishynaofficial]

Yeah, it had emotional and awesome parts in it among the cringe & nonsensical stuff..

[@shawerful5209]

Darth vader its the only thing that they always do right. Anakin on the other hand

[@stormeagle2865]

I like how Reva survived impaling. Heck. They should’ve just named the show after her. She was the real focus.

[@Maxir-qu8qr]

All for “THE MESSAGE”

[@Andrew-fb8ph]

The fact that the show’s original script was supposed to be take place entirely on Tatooine and have nothing to do with Vader or the inquisitors shows that the show wasn’t made because Disney had a story to tell. It was made because Disney just wanted a show with Obi-Wan’s name slapped on it to make money.

[@RedLaneArts]

Those poor Writers aren't getting their Freedom that's the Problem.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@RedLaneArts explain?

[@Carabas72]

Thank the gods they threw out that script and redid it from scratch. I am so done with stories set on Tatooine.

[@hehhehheh4588]

The one show that should take place on Tatooine didn't while every other Star Wars film/series/comic book/video game/breakfast cereal can't wait to get to this backwater Outer Rim planet.

[@spacemann1425]

Who do y'all think is gonna be the next Bond?

[@deuceb1069]

Still can’t believe an entire studio of people agreed to hide Leia under Obi-Wan’s cloak for no one to notice… They’re kicking a dead horse at this point

[@alitlweird]

they’re the ones that killed the horse.

[@zzBaBzz]

also somehow the alarms weren't ringing like fucking mad

[@deuceb1069]

@Lungho not a bad idea 😂

[@bobdobbs69]

This is *exactly* they type of stuff that we feared back when we first saw Phantom Menace in the theaters. We have *suffered* a long ride by now. Personally, I expected absolutely *nothing* of interest from this episode. They are squeezing a piss drunk turnip after its already pissed itself.

[@reek4062]

It's been a dead horse since 2002. I love the trenchcoat scene

[@Diavolowillbeking]

I genuinely think that the main reason this show didn't work that well was that it simply didn't need to be made. Revenge of the Sith, as flawed as it is, ends perfectly as it sets the plot for A New Hope and without this show existing makes no difference to the overall canon. If anything it makes the duel between Obi Wan and Darth Vader in A New Hope less significant as they did it 10 years prior then 10 years before that duel Revenge of the Sith happens.

[@reek4062]

Revenge of the virgins perfectly ties into A New Hope, even though they're 19 years apart.

[@mishynaofficial]

The prequels didn't need to be made, too. If anything they damaged the SW lore, but oh well.

[@Diavolowillbeking]

@@mishynaofficial ye prequels r shit

[@daverobson3084]

Even without the highly likely chance that the Empire would send a hundred storm troopers to the moisture farm, the idea of two mere farmers trying to face down against a single dark jedi/Sith should have been absolutely terrifying to Luke's aunt and uncle. It would be like finding out that a heavily decorated Seal Team Six member , wielding the best weaponry on the planet were coming to kill your nephew. Except this navy seal also has actual super powers . Aunt Beru thinking that standing their ground wasn't brave . It was suicidally stupid. They should have had a 0.0 % chance of surviving the encounter.

[@MarcAlcatraz]

Reva's arc was like if a cop went undercover and became the most evil/sadistic member of the gang only to then reveal to the cops that he was undercover and tried to convince everyone he's totally not corrupt or immoral in any way.

[@lolstalgic9602]

So basically Hux, but woke

[@TimStamper89]

So I.D. basically

[@fst-timer7107]

@@TimStamper89 great film! "We are Shadwell"

[@cameronvanhoegarden9866]

"Remember, no Russian"

[@berrieds]

'Mother Night' by Kurt Vonnegut, except the protagonist/antihero of the story is not satisfied that he is in any way absolved because of his undercover intentions. A much more thoughtful take.

[@paradoxcomix9492]

Napoleon said it best: When small men attempt great enterprises, they always end by reducing them to the level of their mediocrity. My prediction is that Disney will soon begin to showcase their writers as "marginalized people," so people are not allowed to criticize them for their mediocre efforts without being istaphobic.

[@reek4062]

You're just angry your fan theories weren't met

[@BigMeachRants]

@@reek4062 hi disney shill

[@averyhepburn8092]

@@reek4062 I think he's "angry" because they keep trying to add shit into star wars that clearly didn't need to be there. Why is this story even necessary? There is literally no stakes because we know the outcome already. At least with rogue one we got to see how fucking hard it was to get that message to obi wan. This is just stupid because it adds nothing to the story and forced a character in that has no effect on the story.

[@ayoo9789]

Enhhhh....Bad writing is still bad writing no matter what

[@fantomforces]

You're too kind. They wish their writing was good enough to be considered mediocre.

[@ilikecheese4518]

did they forget that kenobi was a brilliant tactician and combatant in the clone wars?

[@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752]

Or that he was a FREAKING General? They must’ve thought baby Leia had that title

[@xminusone1]

Maybe he wasn't "diverse" enough to be competent in 2022.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@xminusone1 Competence, ability, experience, and intelligence are considered mental illnesses today

[@thegreenthunder5416]

Know what would’ve been cool? Besides 100 different additional edits and ideas, I think it would’ve been powerful to see Darth Vader walk through the fire slowly, unscathed and menacing musical ensemble included. Think about it: it would be a moment for him to show to Obi Wan that he cannot hurt him the same way as before…where at one point his failure made him weak now makes him strong. Plus, a Vader walking through the fire would make for a kickass Windows screen saver

[@Wolffman109]

Well, there's always Photoshop.

[@thegreenthunder5416]

@@Wolffman109 It would be cooler to see in action tho

[@Wolffman109]

@@thegreenthunder5416 These days, you gotta take what you can get with Disney. Thank God for the fandom.

[@thegreenthunder5416]

@@Wolffman109 what you think of Andor?

[@Wolffman109]

@@thegreenthunder5416 Never watched it. And honestly, I have no intention to. Everybody's raving about it, but I was just bored by Rogue One, and I'm just gonna stick with George Lucas's films for now.

[@kub3n334]

It's not about money, it's about sending "the message"

[@zmajodnocaja5088]

that's antisemitic!

[@elsarabrook4273]

It's about using the message as an excuse to make money without creating a new and original idea. I swear I'll watch online Star Wars fanfic instead of watching another Disney Star Wars, and I will enjoy it a lot more.

[@carterskindle7086]

Indeed

[@HolyCanoley]

Honestly, it's not...it's just a cash grab...using our sense of childhood nostalgia against us. Do you genuinely think that Disney is purposefully forgoing profits, in order to promote some sort of political propaganda?

[@kub3n334]

@@HolyCanoley No i get what you mean and you're right, I've just been waiting to use that line

[@Last_March_of_the_Gents]

How can reeva see herself in luke when he is not a person of colour? Disney has taught me that you can never relate to ANYONE unless they are the same race and sexual orientation as you.

[@GravityBoy72]

Maybe Luke was transgendered and identifying as black at this moment in his life.

[@firefuzedark1792]

@@GravityBoy72 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good one

[@kantstenchonthemel5641]

Maybe reeva identifies as a white man...

[@Nimoodles]

Weird how you can get that lesson from Disney when they promote the exact opposite..

[@adamcaldwell5646]

Someone completely misunderstanding what representation means...

[@Jireblade]

One thing no one ever really mentions is how Reva is blocking shots from a T-47. Those shots Hit way too hard for a simple lightsaber deflect. It's why you never things like Obi blocking shots from Slave1's cannons.

[@kylewilzon8612]

Once the little girl started running and they tried to make a chase scene out of it, at that moment I knew what I was watching.

[@DexBunny]

When one of the directors said in an interview they hadnt seen the original films, that's all you needed to know how it would go.

[@archstanton9073]

Weren't they all directed by Deborah Chow?

[@freidenker2749]

@@archstanton9073 Might refer to Joby Harold who was a writer for the show - he obviously didn´t watch ROTS before and actually had to be told that Obi-Wan was aware of Anakin and Darth Vader being the same person

[@anonman8661]

@@benjamindavis4974 refilming what?

[@lukewalken1316]

@@benjamindavis4974 God I hope so

[@Zontar82]

same as as star trek writers nowdays, admited that they never saw voyager yet they pretend to know more about a character than what we know

[@asc3nded397]

I found this comment on another video and I thought it perfectly summarized how stupid Reva’s backstory is. “So Reva's motivation is: she blames a guy for not stopping the massacre of her Jedi friends by his apprentice cause he was too busy riding a lizard and chasing a four-armed robot driving a unicycle, so she joins a group of Jedi killers where she spends years killing Jedi, torturing children and civilians so she can kill that guy for killing Jedi and that way get revenge on the guy that trained the guy that killed the Jedi. When that doesn't work she goes off to murder a child on a random planet. She changes her mind so all the years of war crimes are instantly forgiven. I bet that woman whose hand she just chopped off to prove a point would just love that. And, she killed Wade, ffs. I'm told grown human beings wrote this stuff.”

[@johnmarshall6702]

Maybe grown humans by the calendar, but with a child's mind and experience. Every time I allow myself to hope that the studios will recognize and hire writing talent for some new show, I quickly realize how unlikely it is that such talent still exists. Older writers like Josh Whedon, who can craft compelling stories, have either left the field or gotten stuck in some dungeon. And the Star Wars franchise had turned into what Pop Tarts and Skittles are to the food industry.

[@willbrink]

Kenobe was the final straw for me and I cancelled my Disney Plus.

[@lancebaylis3169]

Uncle Owen: "We gotta get out of here." Aunt Beru: "No, we stay and we fight." And that, folks, is why they end up as charred corpses in A New Hope. 👏 Stunning 👏Brave 👏

[@fleeplayTV]

Oh fuck now that you mention it

[@victora.1329]

Hahaha that's my head canon now

[@lovefist86]

No, they end up charred because they ended up owning a droid containing very important information, poser. Hard to find a toxic star wars fan who has actually watched star wars.

[@victora.1329]

@@lovefist86 nice b8, m8

[@tacitus6384]

I blame Kathleen Kennedy. Seriously. I know that sounds like a dead horse. But The Mandalorian, Season 1, was genuinely enjoyable and it was made WITHOUT any of her influence. It was actually made in spite of her. But when The Mandalorian became super popular and the movies went down the shitter, Kathleen Kennedy stuck her wet finger into the air to gauge which direction the wind was going, and slithered over to the TV series and sunk her hooks in, and now she's giving interviews saying that the TV series are the future and oh look at this dozen new TV shows coming out that I'm more involved with. And what did she do with Obi Wan? She turned it into a vehicle to push Reva to have her 'The Future is Female' spin-off series of a redeemed BOPIC Jedi Woman. This woman is the Reverse Midas, everything she touches turns to shit because she's a talentless ideologue that was handed a pop cultural juggernaut whose movies were social events, and turned it into film disasters, brutally and irrevocably divided the fanbase and grabbed the one promising life-line it had, TV shows, and made it all about her again.

[@cheesebiscuit6199]

Well said

[@jeffk464]

The drinker couldn't have said it better himself.

[@piratekng]

Truth

[@scionofdorn9101]

She's the Donald Trump of Disney. Everything she touches dies.

[@fishraposo7192]

Omg I completely forgot about her. I think I suppressed it like a traumatic memory. But yes, this is 100% made by the reverse Midas

[@deezulboy]

Thank god i found your channel. So many shows...so many hours of my life I would never get back. Cheers to turning a negative into a positve!

[@fobbitoperator3620]

The closest I'll ever come to watching another Star Wars sh!t-show, is these ridiculously accurate & entertaining Drinker reviews.

[@donovanm3576]

Bad timing but bad batch is still pretty solid and andor is some of the best tv writing I’ve scene. Especially for Disney Star Wars

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Andor is quite ok. Not perfect, but much, much better

[@fobbitoperator3620]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I have been hearing this from many who've watched it. I do believe Kathleen Kennedy has had nothing to do it it, in any fashion...

[@EpicJoshua314]

Amazing. Every word of what you just said… was wrong.

[@fobbitoperator3620]

@@EpicJoshua314 Please elaborate...

[@FlabbyPigLegs]

I remember in the original star wars Obiwan hides Chewbacca, R2, 3-PO, Han, and Luke all in his robe when the land on the Death Star. Loved that callback

[@rgerber]

Chewbacca is only about twice as big as Obi Wan ha

[@zachconant7031]

@@rgerber he identifies as an Ewok you transphobe

[@RuddsReels]

+Flabby lol! For a second there I thought you were serious! Totally had me then! Nice one!

[@parapendejadas4913]

Hahaja...Lol, best comment

[@bluesrocker91]

Han peaks out from under Obi-Wan's ballsack... "No reward is worth this."

[@Killer_KT]

The Kathleen Paradox, a story or situation where nothing has changed and yet everything has also been made worse

[@davidwilliams4837]

Socialists [Satanists] are why we can't have nice things.

[@natogfg]

Kathleen Paradox?

[@Killer_KT]

@@natogfg as in Kathleen Kennedy, current pres of Lucasfilm…

[@rocstarang5747]

👏

[@gommechops]

The trouble is, they have at this point lost touch with the look, the feel and the spirit of what Star Wars is made of. They also had the problem of the cartoon Kenobi linking the prequels to A New Hope in a very convincing and sensitive to the character way.

[@the_proffit76]

Finally got around to watching Rebels and how Obi-Wan was portrayed is exactly how he should have been.

[@rockgod6180]

Star Wars' goodwill for me ended after the Clone Wars finale

[@msims-yq3yd]

“Fuck off, George. It’s your fault this is happening in the first place.” Absolutely!!

[@neotoad456]

How? What did he mean by this? Like bringing star wars into existence? or selling the property?

[@ayushlawrence281]

​@@neotoad456selling his property.. That was the most foolish thing ever

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

For it to even be called fan fiction, it would have to be made by a fan.

[@Chkprofilename]

Finally it's here. *YES* *kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ-biJesoNKHfdU*

[@etme1000]

This is actualy engraved on the wall at the entrance to Mouse Inc.

[@TheJaymundo]

Ouch. Direct hit to the Thermal Exhaust Port, Joseph McDermott. Great shot, that was one in a million. :)

[@TheThrashKing92]

Man, remember when Jar Jar was the biggest problem Star Wars had? Good times

[@shawnm1902]

@@rosselliswilkinson would have been better if it was wookies

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooooo if you liked this you should watch my review about why I DIDN'T LIKE obi wan!!

[@Elnont]

At least we got Ewan McGregor’s fantastic performance in this. Once again he is the highlight of a lacklustre Star Wars project.

[@DownWithBureaucracy]

What sucks the most is how awesome a story focused on the inqusisitors could have been. Actually leveraging the suffering they went through and showing some of that inner conflict that drives their final decision in the story. Can't make them some ultimate hero, but you could tell a tale of redemption or at least continuing to try for redemption even after years of bad choices. Showing, much like Luke eventually did with Vader, that there's still hope for even the worst of people. That might have even echoed with the other stories...

[@johncuyle3017]

It's striking how much less bad the last episode would have been if they'd just let Reva die after being impaled by Vader. I can sort of buy that Kenobi still wouldn't be able to kill Anakin even after Vader made clear that Anakin was already dead, but Vader leaving a force user that had outlived her usefulness alive after trying to kill him? Uh... no.

[@lordsathariel4384]

if you apply history the star wars backstory for everyone before disney and common sense to this show leia would have replaced vader by new hope's time as sidious's faviourte weapon obi would be tortured for life or dead and reva would be another dead inquisitor vader fogot about killing

[@lordsathariel4384]

@Johnah Arston more like mind shattering like i get some people aint read novels comics all the games i get it but if you watched the original series or prequals even this behaviour is like alt universe level like in danm star trek none of the characters act themselfs like vader is happy to kill younglings but this women who has tried to kill him na that's too far his soul can't take it

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

He choked out TWO subordinates for failing him in Empire and the one who physically attacked him gets left alive? 🙄

[@wolfrainexxx]

Woke Vader is a bitch on a leash. Based Vader is a wolf in the woods.

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Hey!! Did you know God is three in one!? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit! Bless him! Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him! True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Have a blessed day, everyone!! ❤

[@chriscotgrove9674]

Well, at least we know how Owen and Beru really died in A New Hope, with Beru berating Owen into facing down a squad of Imperial stormtroopers.

[@Doyouevenliftjpg]

"But there's an AT-AT on the way Beru!" "NO! I'm not leaving my home, we are ENOUGH!"

[@JezaLoki]

From the characters first words you know she's a nagger. "LUUUKE!!! LUUUUUUUKE!!!"

[@eggjason]

@@Doyouevenliftjpg Aunt Beru be like: "Nah, it'll be fine"

[@margarethmichelina5146]

If only they let Luke go to Toshi station to get his power converter

[@terrified057t4]

and Boba Fett. Atleast I think I remember it being Boba scorching the Lars?

[@HelloTosho]

Beru being all girlboss sassy makes it all the funnier that she ends up a burnt carcass.

[@thenamethatwasntaken2314]

It's such a shame too because they could have gotten a lot of mileage out of a show focused on Obi-Wan protecting Luke from: marauding sand people, being found by the empire, rooting out turn coats and spies, perhaps occasionally getting called away to work some other important mission, heck they could've done an entire season focused on convincing the Jawas to remove imperial trackers from droids before sale! or a thousand other things! The story of watching after Luke, would have been far more interesting than what they actually did, and could have provided context for and made far more sense in light of the classics.

[@Donjasoni]

But then they can’t use the feminist force with Leia and this boss bitch character they call reva.

[@Nomisdit]

"Fuck off George! It's your fault this is happening in the first place" 😂😂

[@skinWalkman]

This definitely explains why Hayden Christiansen and Ewan Mcgreggor look absolutely depressed in a lot of the hype interviews for the show. No matter how proud they say they are they know it was absolute garbage

[@Chkprofilename]

Finally it's here. *YES* *kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ-biJesoNKHfdU*

[@joshdelagarza231]

Thats not true. You’re reaching there. They don’t look depressed, they are enjoying it because they both genuinely like the show and the appreciation from fans that they deserve. Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean others can’t. Now Mark Hamill and TLJ is a different story.

[@mew10521]

Hmmm

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooo if you liked this you should watch my review about why I DIDN'T LIKE obi wan!!

[@jackcolson4745]

@@ORiOh4582 More like the OP's original comment is a projection and a half.

[@ACEnBEAKY]

In at least one comic, Obi Wan still did some Robin Hood style vigilantism on Tatooine to keep his skills sharp and keep in nature with his code of honor befitting a heroic and noble Jedi Knight. He had to keep a low profile to watch over Luke, but he couldn't help but do some good to protect the innocent from a local crime boss or what not. Something that he had a hard time passing up, and when he did it he had to be methodical so that he wouldn't pop up on the Empire's radar when he went on some damn crusade in his backyard.

[@skinnyguru_]

What blows my mind is that obi wan was wearing a Jedi robe in public. A Jedi robe. And nobody recognized it

[@sauronthemighty3985]

He was wearing one ina new hope as well.

[@skinnyguru_]

@@sauronthemighty3985 at that time the Jedi were thought to be extinct. So it makes sense. But this takes place 10 years after ROTS. People still know what Jedi wear in this timeframe

[@thinkinyblinko6666]

Imagine being Obi Wan, a war hero general jedi Master who bested countless insanely dangerous foes and commanded entire armies in a galaxy spanning war. Then imagine taking orders and deferring to a literal toddler.

[@viruscure4677]

Yeah....yeah....I know....

[@MK-zi7ym]

Imagine being Star Wars, a cinematic masterpiece that broke countless records and rose to insanely dangerous heights to commanded entire generations of loyal fans spanning the entire galaxy. Then imagine taking said franchise and deferring to a literal toddler. Disney is now morally bankrupt and will soon die.

[@jong.7944]

Yes, and when did Obi-wan develop this deference? He certainly never showed much deference to royalty before, e.g. feeling completely free to speak to the Duchess Satine on equal and familiar terms and the entire Council felt free to overrule the princeling on that water planet, etc. If he's being deferential because it's Anakin's daughter, that'd be new, too. But likely he's deferring to the Disney Princess who Must Be Obeyed when she wants something.

[@AngryCanadianGoose95]

Ghost of General Grievous: "HAHAHAHAHAHA! General Kenobi? More like Private Kenobi! HAHAHAHA!" *cough-cough*

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooo if you liked this you should watch my review about why I DIDN'T LIKE obi wan!!

[@nickschneider774]

I love that they made sure to make the 10 year old Princess Leia just a sassy and competent as she was as an adult, yet they made Obi-Wan Kenobi LESS competent and brave then he was either before or after these events. Lol Pathetic.

[@chasehedges6775]

Crappy writing never fails

[@AdorkableAudio]

Almost like he’s a broken man who’s gone through a lot of trauma and isolation. Wow crazy thought, it’s almost like traumatic events CHANGE people?! *gasp* hard to believe I know like a certain 30 year time gap with a character called Luke Skywalker where he has a different arc and character from a traumatic event. It’s really not hard to figure out bud

[@TheHoggcast]

@@AdorkableAudio load of rubbish, funny how this only seems to affect specific characters huh? ...No, such a thought is too much for you. The series is rubbish, designed to cater to non-thinkers such as yourself.

[@-.-.11]

Also they made Kenobi get his rocks off to the thought of two kids. Then he tells Leia she won’t always be young and to keep their relationship secret. Leave it to Disney and Lucasfilm to make creepy messaging.

[@nickschneider774]

@@AdorkableAudio actually Luke IS a perfect example. They trashed on an old white man so they could make way for a new "better" female character. And why? Because the writers decided to have Luke's character do something he would never actually do, and then react to it in a way he would never actually react to it. Why? To push their agenda. I mean it was so blatant that the critical Drinker literally called it out after only seeing the first trailer. ...that doesn't tell you anything? Lol It takes an unbelievable amount of mental gymnastics (actually, gymnastics takes skill and discipline), mental buffoonery to defend what is blatantly going on here.

[@cgill4269]

You’ve got me programmed that every time you ask a question, I’m anticipating you saying, “Don’t know!” And I nearly spit my coffee every time even tho I know it’s comin! Another spot on video!!

[@melancholycollie]

Ahh.. the tales of Hello There and the 10 year old Girl Boss.

[@Samuel-vw4yv]

“Don’t ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product” - A wise man

[@dylansmit3883]

Not so wise anymore. RLM actually enjoys this slop.

[@Samuel-vw4yv]

@@dylansmit3883 fuck ‘em then

[@dylansmit3883]

@@anubis4695 I didn't mention SJWs anywhere, nor did I say RLM isn't allowed to have a different opinion. They can think whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Go project somewhere else.

[@cliffchai3742]

@@dylansmit3883 Not really, Jay was the one who said this quote and he really dislikes the show. Mike and Rich enjoy this slop ironically.

[@Samuel-vw4yv]

@@anubis4695 I don’t force the idea that women are perfect and men are evil

[@Makoto03]

I was raised on the prequels. Phantom Menace was my first theatrical film as a kid. I have a fondness for Anakin and Obi Wan. That being said, i have ZERO interest in this 'bait and switch' Disney era cash grab. They already ruined Anakin with Ep IX, by bringing back Palpatine (ruining him as the chosen one). :(

[@DaArtist_1EARTHANGEL]

Me too I always liked those movies I know they aren't great but they were definitely fun as kid and yeah it's bad acting but I mean I've seen worst and alot of movies these days suck anyway so the prequels are alright in my book even better than the new ones

[@anthonyfernandez82]

@@DaArtist_1EARTHANGEL revenge of the sith. My favorite star wars. Enough said

[@catchupichu]

@@DaArtist_1EARTHANGEL Prequels had a story to tell, unlike the sequels. Was it told well? Eh. But did it have more effort put into it than the sequels? Absolutely

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaaVga2BjKuDrMk It’s finally here

[@jocaleb0236]

I never realized that… honestly the sequels are just a bad fever dream to me and are so muddled together it means absolutely nothing to me Rots will always be my favorite movie despite its many flaws in its storytelling

[@samhampton6771]

GI: lightsaber impalement isn’t that bad is it? Reva: nah I’ve tried it twice and it was nothing Qui-Gon:

[@MMOsForLife]

You nailed it Drinker. Obi-Wan Kenobi & Darth Vader were stage props for the "Reva Story." Why this insult to Star Wars was even named Obi-Wan Kenobi is mind-boggling.

[@uncle2593]

“You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the Disney wokeness, not join them!”- Obi Drinker Kenobi (so for any of ya'll wondering in the comments, what I mean by "disney wokeness" is (a) their expectation for is to enjoy Reva as a character when they've given her the same "its not her fault" treatment as Rey, (b) the constant depiction of Obi-Wan getting his ass saved by some "Strong female character" as other commentors in the thread such as Jonzi have stated, and drinker has listed as well.

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaaVga2BjKuDrMk It’s finally here

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaaVga2BjKuDrMk It’s finally here

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaaVga2BjKuDrMk It’s finally here

[@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234]

WHY ARE THEY SO MANY BOTS?!?

[@ghosthunter7258]

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 bc KZbin is shit just like our world

[@LastFantasiaWeapons]

"All of it has this weirdly cheap, rushed feel about it. Like it had to be done as quickly and efficiently as possible so they could clear out the sound stage and make way for the next Star Wars production." Given how densely packed the Marvel and Star Wars production calendar is, that's probably true.

[@henryjones2766]

it felt both drawn out and rushed so it should either of had more episodes to develop characters properly or make it a film and focus on kenobi and anakin

[@DaGARCE1]

@@henryjones2766 should have just been a movie. Disney has a bad habit recently of making what would have been movies into multiple episode short series that draws out the story too much and it's always stretched in the weakest spots leading to easy poking of holes in the story telling.

[@magicjohnson3121]

The Disney sausage factory

[@CIS115DK]

@@reubenaringo8513 I actually enjoyed the Ben's life as a normal person and how daily Tatootine life works. Everything after that's was meh.

[@CIS115DK]

It's the streaming service problem. Must produce content so consumer can consume more content.

[@tankeater]

0:37 BUHAHAHAHAHAHA sand dunes???... 🤦‍♂️ yah, because the wind definitely can't uncover or berry that box 😂🤦‍♂️🤡

[@jack1235ify]

This show did Ewan and Hayden dirty.

[@DietrichGarbo]

You know that they could have just made a show called Inquisitors and had Reva coming to go against her programming over the course of the series. They didn’t have to attach it to Kenobi, and as such it would have been judged on its own merits. It is the bait and switch that gets to people.

[@GeoffryGifari]

if second sister trilla is in that inquisitor show i'd totally watch

[@korawitbuttramee618]

Because most corporate studios are so damn lazy they have to attach their half-assed goods with famous and respectable IPs or it won't sell. Original works are too much of a hassle to do a marketing campaign for, I guess.

[@Chkprofilename]

Finally it's here. *YES* *kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ-biJesoNKHfdU* ㅤ

[@DietrichGarbo]

@@korawitbuttramee618 What gets to me is that I would have watched that show without hesitation. Right now I still have Disney+ and find myself hesitant to watch original programing until I hear good things. I might just let it lapse once the subscription runs out.

[@cashewnuttel9054]

It's "Star Wars" that gets to people. How did Stars Wars become such big again?

[@Acesahn]

I love how the writers are such narcissistic sociopaths that the only way their self insert Reva could turn away from her idiotic revenge plot to kill Luke... is to imagine Luke was HERSELF lol. Yes, killing an innocent child no problem, but killing someone that reminds you of yourself!? That's where you draw the line!

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Leftists are incapable of true empathy. Instead of seeing a fellow meat-puppet and identifying with that, they MUST share whatever trait they find most important to them amongst their chosen characters. If it's skin, you BETTER be the same color as them, if it's gender, you better match or change to match, politically, same story. They want to see themselves, but they don't even know WHAT they are.

[@nelisezpasce]

something about black babies and the mirror test

[@margarethmichelina5146]

And Luke is not even a Youngling.

[@HelloChief117]

Makes me wonder if these writers have ever had a conversation with another human being before writing this crap, because no one with a functional frontal lobe would act like that.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Sounds like they think narcissism is a positive character trait in women.

[@nickdobrov]

Women: strong, smart. Men: weak, stupid. I think I've got it now, thanks Mickey!

[@Thesavagesouls]

Only a black female can survive two lightsaber stab. Something that desintegrate any organ in its way.

[@deep.space.12]

If only Qui-Gon fought Maul a decade later, he wouldn't have died from the stab wound.

[@Minptahhathor]

He's not a sith!!! maul got cut in half, anakin almost burned to death, even real life people can survive stab wounds sometimes even long enough not to bleed out.

[@SoraRaida]

He just needs to be very angry before he die. Smh Qui-Gon

[@mala6238]

@@Minptahhathor not very convincing.

[@Minptahhathor]

@@mala6238 wym not convincing use your logic, whose more likely to survive a stab wound vs getting burned alive or getting decapitated in half, come back with a more reasonable argument, other than them being a sith in the real world u would not survive that.

[@mala6238]

@@Minptahhathor Maul did not surbive except in that dumb fanfuction TCW. And Vader barly survived and must wear a suit. Even in our world, people already can survive from severe burning. In a more advanced universe and with a special suit, that seems plausible. But being stabbed through the heart with a lightsaber should end everyone 100%. It is rediculous that there are still people that bring up excuses to defend this.

[@Seras0]

When you said "Reva Teleports in" Had me in stitches, because one of the biggest complaints I have with some of my friends that liked Kenobi is that characters just teleport to be where ever the director needs them to at any point. 'Oh Vader needs to appear in front of Obi-Wan despite being behind him while Obi-Wan runs? No explanation. Reva appears in front of Leia by going down the same tunnel minutes behind her, but appears at the end? No explanation. How can the directing be this bad?

[@stpablo5299]

this show was nonsensical to the worst degree

[@Mark_Knight]

Yes Qweens. The point of Obi Wan was to empower Black Qweens.... I do not watch, just watch reviews to laugh.

[@nothajzl]

The director was a woman (?) 🫡

[@ffs6158]

Black girl magic.

[@chongli3007]

Why do you even watch the show at all when you know it’s going to be garbage? You’re actually paying. It’s kind of pathetic actually. Just come to the drinkers channel and let him rip on it cause you know it’s gonna be bad anyway. Give up your addiction

[@timberwolfe1645]

Considering that Leia was AT BIRTH handed off to Senator Organa, NO ONE would be able to track her links with JEDI or anything side EXCEPT by the FORCE

[@Pixel_Man229]

A long long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…. There were Girl Boss Jedi and Petulant Sith, Reflecting the world we live in today.

[@lordgeorge36]

One scene in rebels (maul finding and fighting kenobi) did more to flesh out Obi Wan’s character in 5 minutes and a handful of spoken lines than this whole series did. Just goes to show the stark contrast in results between directors who genuinely care about Star Wars and those who genuinely care about money, Disney, “the message”, etc. It just makes me cherish those truly inspired Star Wars stories even more.

[@adreeeandanothere510]

Crazy bc of how mid that show is too lol.

[@DrZionth]

This comment is just not accurate.

[@parker1093]

agreed. You could feel the tension in the air as Maul and Obi-wan finished their decade long struggle in a single duel.

[@antogno4625]

@@adreeeandanothere510 yeah lmao, but all the Maul and Kenobi scenes are s-tier

[@SammEater]

It's actually kinda funny that the guys behind the cartoons 'for kids 'seem to understand more about Star Wars than the ones doing "serious" live action stuff.

[@AlienCowThatMoos]

Leia learning to be the character she already was, reminds me of live action Aladdin. In the 11th hour the plot stops dead to give Jasmine a song about how she won't keep silent anymore. Yes Jasmine, that could have been a great turning point. You know, if there had ever been a single moment in your life that you were silent. She's an outspoken strong woman from frame one of the movie and now she's resolved to become an outspoken strong woman. What an arc.

[@cia212]

And the song was so starkly different. You go from the soaring vocals of A Whole New World to the modern woman's screech of Speechless.

[@AlienCowThatMoos]

@@cia212 I 100% guarantee this song happened when an executive demanded there be a "Let it Go" song in it. It's so on point you expect to see the serial numbers scraped off. Thing is, Let it Go was an ACTUAL turning point for Elsa. Something Aladdin missed entirely.

[@tarektechmarine8209]

lmao they actually did that, they do know she's the sultan after her father right? She is basically second to god in that area.

[@the8u9]

Same company that made Frozen, where the main character was told to hold it in, keep it in, traumatized by almost killing her own sister on accident, be a good queen, don't let them know. Then "Lets it Go" which is why that song and her scene is so cathartic and fun. Only to turn and show the folly of irresponsibly just letting it all go, making it an ACTUALLY good movie. It's like they forgot they made this blockbusting success before where they wrote an actually strong female character.

[@JezaLoki]

Princess Jasmine. One of the most powerful people in that world. Wealthy, secure, but only has 99.9% of opportunities available to her. And for that, she will not remain silent! So inspiring.

[@Jay-xs2jh]

Choose your "Champion" for pop culture war ! I choose the Drinker . "Fuk off George " 🤣😂🤣

[@TK-nn8jd]

Canon Uncle Owen: Shoots Darth Maul in the fucking face. Disney Uncle Owen: Soy is an integral part of my diet.

[@nothajzl]

“This is Reva. A strong diverse female character.” - gets me every time 🤣🤣 I didn’t watch Obi Wan. I don’t know how people in 2022(!) allow themselves to expect decent story-telling, or competency from Disney. Bury the hopes for that like they buried good television and don’t give their bullsht products attention. P.S. Have you noticed that everything DisneyPlus has spat out has been nothing short of underwhelming? Lol even Apple TV produced decent media.

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@red-hot]

Can you not just come to terms with the fact that you are racist and sexist and you like to see these traits pointed out because they anger you? Or is there any sort of merit to bringing up her gender or race? We quite literally also see her constantly belittled, underperform, and be disliked by everyone around her - so she's not exactly "strong". This galaxy has sentient frog people and there are still twats getting butthurt over women and black people existing. What the fuck.

[@reek4062]

Reva is a fine character

[@treystephens6166]

I’ve been done since 2019.

[@tepodebo]

Mu

[@reefarolla32]

I love that Obi Wan decided not to kill Vader, so he could turn around and tell Luke he will have to kill his Father to save the Galaxy as a force ghost 👻. After he has already caused the death of thousands by inaction 😂. Award winning writing!

[@Captain_Frosty]

You do realize that he can't kill him or that would completely nullify the original trilogy? Actually watch the movie. Might help you look less like an idiot. Cheers.

[@mr.dystopian5554]

What's worse is this portrays Obi-Wan as inadvertently sending Luke down the path of failure like that of the old Jedi Order. Obviously, they're connecting the dots to their shitty sequel trilogy as much as the Mandalorian has been doing. Luke's Jedi Order never grows to fruition as he eventually becomes a coward and a failure, to pave way for Rey's new Jedi Order.

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

why kill an enemy that isn't worth destroying. that wasn't bad writing lmfao.

[@mr.dystopian5554]

@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 The problem is he let a mass murderer go free to continue to his mass murder throughout the galaxy. Maybe instead of killing him, Obi-Wan could have at least captured Vader and hand him over to the rebels (like what happens at the end of the Force Unleashed 2). But instead he ends up having to train Luke to do what he couldn't do prior (which was to kill Vader). The so called "writers" couldn't justify this show existing even if they tried.

[@ethgratz2186]

@@mr.dystopian5554 Where are you getting that he trained Luke to kill Vader? He barely trains Luke at all and decides to suicide himself against Vader. I can speculate same as you that he did all that because he thought Luke was the only one that could save Anakin. Since he himself, had given up hope on the idea.

[@sideralsignal8833]

thanks for wrapping it up. yes, "the message" is shoved into my face in almost every scene. I honestly watched all of it, only to see the actual encounters between obi wan and darth vader. In other words: The price I had to pay, by watching all of the rest of the show (aka "the message"), just to see the encounters of obi wan and anakin... that price was pretty damn high. uagh.

[@wyvern876]

I have a coworker who might not have been the preferred target audience for these new shows, but he falls perfectly into their trap nonetheless. He's a middle-aged, white, blue collar single father of 2, who is absolutely miserable with his job/life, and looks to entertainment purely for escapism. He absolutely loved this show, and probably writes off my distrust and disdain for anything disney does with star wars as just me being too picky. He's told me that this show was the best thing from star wars he's ever seen, between not just the effects/cg, but writing, acting, and fights. He went so far as to say it was overall better than Empire strikes back. I'm glad he has stuff he enjoys, but it's really impossible for me to talk to him about this stuff we should be able to geek out over because we just have wildly different starting points when it comes down to it.

[@baddogkelevra1]

The scene where Reva somehow runs down a long tunnel and catches Leia while avoiding the resistance lady has got to be the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen. They don’t even try to explain how two characters running down a single tunnel can somehow miss each other completely.

[@canesrule96]

*teleports in front of you* "heh, right this way, kid"

[@israelsaadesnoozer377]

Don't forget how obi wan was able to fight and defeat Vader and travel across the galaxy to tattooine in the same time it took Reva to just grab Luke right in front of her

[@ronniejdio9411]

Did you see the Leia chase scene where the child out runs 2 grown men ? It looked terrible even for a kids show

[@VincentMaslowski]

I THINK what was implied is that Reva saw the tunnel, understood that it might lead to the spaceport, and then left the warehouse and walked straight to the spaceport.

[@JayFlowie]

This was where I drew the line and said it wasn't even worth trying to see if it got better because clearly they didn't care enough for things like this that are so easily spotted that it draws you out of any faint immersion immediately

[@NotTomS]

Drinker: "one single act of compassion does not undo a lifetime of evil deeds" Ghislaine Maxwell: yes it most certainly does...

[@madkoala2130]

unlike her partner-in-crime.

[@whitworth5s248]

Too bad she wasn't compassionate enough to publicly release a list of clients and the bill of all the 'services' they each purchased.

[@Sneaky1ne]

so like darth vader? It was always like this with jedi and sith, sith who redeem themselves into jedi are accepted

[@darrenturner3534]

@@madkoala2130 To be fair to Epstein, he did kill Epstein. *cough*itwasntsuicide*cough*

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

It can, I guess, (look at Vader) but having no signs of it ahead of time, sudden changes of heart for no reason, or not paying the price on some way is silly and wrong. These writers have not the inspiration, creativity, skill, or care required to actually deserve to write for anyone.

[@darkomen1290]

i died laughing at the several chase scenes where leia looks like she's running at toddler speed with her tiny legs yet the sprinting adult behind her never gains on her because they just keep cutting to a wide shot to show that leia is somehow the fastest runner in the galaxy

[@erosion271]

Andrew Stanton recently said he found it "Incredibly annoying and difficulting being restricted to canon" like WTF has happened to the state of writing in the last ten years when something as basic as in-universe continuity is seen as a struggle.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

Should’ve been called: The Reva & Leia Origins…featuring Obi Wan Kenobi

[@Sajuek]

Reva takes up less than 15% of the total screen time without Obi-wan also in the scene. Leia has less than 5% screen time without Obi-wan in the scene after episode 2. Why not just be honest and admit you hate women?

[@richardromanyshyn608]

Reva and Leia: Revelation

[@jonathanng2390]

@@Sajuek ok… You hate women

[@anjolatope-babalola2338]

Reva story was not only pointless, it was stupid and unnecessary

[@hritwikdey5556]

@@Sajuek yes i do, thank you

[@PhazerSC]

My biggest gripe is that we have this super intelligent Leia at the age of 10 who has these absolutely life defining adventures with Obi-Wan where they clearly bond, but she doesn't remember him 8 years later?

[@Absolute_Zero7]

She does? The plot of ANH starts with Leia sending a message to Obi-Wan asking for help.

[@MrM0nKey79]

@@Absolute_Zero7 except there is no mention of these events or that she even met him before. General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.

[@frocat5163]

@@Absolute_Zero7 Leia was traveling to Tattooine to bring Obi-Wan to Alderaan. Nothing in the message indicates that she has any idea who Obi-Wan is beyond what Bail Organa had told her. This, of course, doesn't mean that Leia had never met Obi-Wan, but based on how Leia behaves throughout the original trilogy, she is generally far less formal with people she knows than she is with either strangers or people in prominent positions. So, while it's certainly _possible_ she had met Obi-Wan, her formal delivery and the way she responds to Obi-Wan's death later indicate that she wasn't close to him at all. And that's directly contradicted by the events of this horrendous show.

[@Asurya1978]

I'm not defending the show, as it was 2 or 3/10 at best but in ANH, she practically sprints out of the cell when Luke says he's here with BEN Kenobi. Clearly some memory or awareness of who Luke means.

[@ulaznar]

@@Asurya1978 Yeah, because she sent the message to him before getting captured. Her reaction fits the fact that her message was delivered

[@guaminater]

My three sons and I anxiously awaited this assured to be amazing Star Wars Extravaganza for over a year! We keep looking at each other in cringe-disgust while watching the excruciating annihilation of our beloved franchise. It would have been much less painful to have been on Alderaan…

[@mr.bighead903]

Not showing or even mentioning General Grevious in this show ONCE, is one of the bigger gripes I have with this show, stupid of a gripe as it may be

[@AldrickExGladius]

No wonder Han said that nothing beats a blaster, since people are just getting up and walking off all these lightsaber attacks.

[@Chkprofilename]

💯

[@AldrickExGladius]

Shit like this that Disney keeps pumping out left and right are why I pirate Disney+ instead of paying for it lol

[@yeahboyz9314]

@@AldrickExGladius not even worth pirating

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooooo if you liked this you should watch my review about why I DIDN'T LIKE obi wan!!