Obi-Wan Kenobi Wasn't Great...

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@Remnicore
@Remnicore 2 жыл бұрын
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@thetrib1
@thetrib1 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Disagree with most of the gripes, but I love the fact that this isn't just: bad writing, bad character, bad acting.
@weaselbatches
@weaselbatches 2 жыл бұрын
There’s some cool stuff but the only things I like, for the most part, are all superficial. The only time I enjoyed the actual writing was in episode 5 when the Anakin vs Kenobi flashbacks paralleled Vader being blindsided. Everything else was extremely mediocre or straight up trash. Not even the technical stuff lived up to what a multi-billion dollar company should be able to produce. Like you said, cinematography and choreography were lackluster.
@samval5525
@samval5525 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel like this show was used more for nostalgia bait than to actually deliver a satisfying story.
@buckeyeguy458
@buckeyeguy458 2 жыл бұрын
Weasel please come back and review Kenobi
@LazyCCP
@LazyCCP 2 жыл бұрын
Daddy Diesal. Please.. Please make a review on this show. Thats all we ask. Please
@yourdaddy5435
@yourdaddy5435 2 жыл бұрын
Papa Diesel, please make a video on the recent star vores shows. Unless you are waiting for more shows to finish so that you can make a tier list?
@juanjaramillo9390
@juanjaramillo9390 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Technically speaking these shows (Mando Boba & Obi Wan) are all lacking. Idk whats going on but they are really devoid of artistic qualities. Can’t help but think the backlash to TLJ has something to do with the new approach
@bengriffiths9440
@bengriffiths9440 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree that that Reva's character had "so much potential". I don't care if they improved the way her motivations are conveyed to us, her motivation sucks. She survives order 66 as a youngling so her plan is to join the empire to get close to Vader, committing countless atrocities in the process, hunt down one of the few Jedis left in the galaxy that could oppose the empire that you hate so much in order to get closer to Vader, committing countless more atrocities in the process, to then betray and kill Vader at the end for revenge. And in the end, we're supposed to relate or show sympathy for her just because she decided not to murder a ten year old boy? This is some Fire Emblem Fates Conquest level bullshit if anyone gets that obscure reference. She just flat out should never have been conceived as a character, she adds nothing to the Star Wars story except plot holes. None of this is the fault of the actor who I do share some sympathy for, but at the same time, I didn't think her acting was very good. She was constantly voice-cracking and squealing orders. I think it was poor casting, she commands no presence and isn't imposing in the slightest.
@Luke-im8sv
@Luke-im8sv 2 жыл бұрын
I fuckin agree with that man… U went off!! 🤣💯
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 2 жыл бұрын
The inquisitors in general are shitty. In legends inquisitor Jerec is a far better character than the garbage rip off that is “the Grand Inquisitor”.
@jwonyoutube
@jwonyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
I also couldn’t find myself believing she’s a fearsome Jedi hunter because she has a 14 yr old pouty im-a-meanie-can’t-you-tell baby face and a knock knee walk in the oversized platform shoes they put her in.
@bakedstreetyt
@bakedstreetyt 2 жыл бұрын
blame BLM and all that woke bullshit. Thats how she got that role no doubt
@hoxyheart5479
@hoxyheart5479 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing but facts
@ryangarcia985
@ryangarcia985 2 жыл бұрын
There were so many times I thought "why did they do this?" and "why couldn't they do this instead?" It felt really rushed and like *NOONE* working on the show either in writing or in special effects really knew what Star Wars was or how things could look. It felt like a fan film really. Like this is disney with a huge budget and there were so many scenes I felt could have been way better if time and care was put into them.
@tiffany5441
@tiffany5441 2 жыл бұрын
“He’s just a regular Asian guy wearing a bike helmet with a skin condition and reverb in his voice” 😂😂 bro you’re going to be big on KZbin one day. You definitely have what it takes
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously though that guy looks like he fell asleep in a whirl pool with too much chlorine and his voice sounds like the stuff I recorded on my DSi when I was 12. It all just feels so much like Marvel now but cheaper and I can't believe they killed all of legends just to have the consistency in the new Canon be that mediocre.
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the video. Seriously, I miss when Star Wars planets looked nothing like Earth and aliens didn't just look like humans with makeup.
@Sharpswordherald
@Sharpswordherald 2 жыл бұрын
The actor is Hans from fast and the furious franchise
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sharpswordherald dude is better than this
@lixd3054
@lixd3054 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't they just animate him a little bit? In rebels he actually looks like a species🤣
@neelpatel8538
@neelpatel8538 2 жыл бұрын
I think what made the show completely unbearable for me was the amount of plot holes and the amount of times I went “why didn’t they just do this”
@finlomacdonald7739
@finlomacdonald7739 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the amount of "why didn't they just do this" moments is bizarre, don't think I've ever watched anything thats made me think that so often
@ForceGhostAnakin
@ForceGhostAnakin 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m sick of the media saying “Star Wars fans can’t be pleased!” Like, no. A lot of us just don’t like being treated like fools
@TheRealNeil-kc7si
@TheRealNeil-kc7si 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForceGhostAnakin no, Star Wars can’t be pleased. 😂😂 nobody hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans
@runisa
@runisa 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it but I agree the plot holes took me out of it still made more sense then the sequels
@Vicdaprick
@Vicdaprick 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNeil-kc7si they are right tho there was so many wtf moments a big one being the “need” for reva why have a villain hunting kenobi when darth vader could’ve been doing it and it was also what people wanted to see
@BrentButler
@BrentButler 2 жыл бұрын
People are too nice about Reva’s writing. How is “the backbone” of her character written well? She wants revenge for her Jedi friends being killed, so she takes a job killing Jedi? That’s bizarre. I know she needed to get close to Vader but this is isn’t good writing, it’s just the first thing that came to the writer’s mind. And then the Luke part of her story is insane. Can anyone explain it??? Does she know he is Vaders son? Whether or not she does, what would killing Luke accomplish, particularly when it’s clear Vader doesn’t know he exists? She said it was for justice, lol. That’s like if someone ran over my cat, so in order to avenge her, I personally kill some random pets around the neighborhood.
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 2 жыл бұрын
Reva is a bad character. That simple
@heresjonny666
@heresjonny666 2 жыл бұрын
A continuous theme in Star Wars is that being driven by rage, hatred, anger - essentially, the dark side, can give you power, but can make you fixate on a goal regardless of what you lose and who you hurt outside of that goal. Anakin shows this. Luke is goaded toward this but resists it. So this absolutely tracks for Reva. In her hatred of Vader, she could kill other jedi and do awful things because she just needed to kill him and avenge her fallen friends. I just wish they had introduced her character this way - instead of getting gut stabbed and then mysteriously finding her way into the Inquisition, why not have her show her anger at Vader killing her friends enough to harness some dark side power to deflect a blow by him? Then he pulls a Force Unleashed and takes her to be used for the Inquisition. Something like that. Totally agree regarding Luke, though. She should have just died in episode V and saved some screentime in VI. After losing utterly to him, she lets her anger go and comes back to the light, only to die. It would have been far more impactful.
@maximesinatra2321
@maximesinatra2321 2 жыл бұрын
It has its good moments, but its not enough, once again with Disney star wars, this is a big "what if" huge missed opportunity. You voiced every single one of my issues in this video, glad I subscribed :)
@msjkid14
@msjkid14 2 жыл бұрын
Funny he can only get 10k ppl to subscribe to him when the vids get over 600k views I guess people really don't agree with his opinion?
@maximesinatra2321
@maximesinatra2321 2 жыл бұрын
@@msjkid14 Thats why its called an opinion, you're entitled to yours, good for you if you liked it, no need to be agressive
@msjkid14
@msjkid14 2 жыл бұрын
@@maximesinatra2321 Too bad they removed the dislike button so we can't see what people really think...
@bandinamerica3035
@bandinamerica3035 2 жыл бұрын
Disney screwed up by not going the Old Republic route. They should have left 1-6 alone. Introduced Revan(Keanu), what a bunch of fools. Billions, dare I say, Trillions lost!
@sammiller8640
@sammiller8640 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly getting fed up with Disney giving us missed opportunity after miss opportunity.
@neocomp92
@neocomp92 2 жыл бұрын
I have a suspicion that when the writers finished their draft, they thought it was a sign of intelligence for them to break canon left and right, then do a bad patch job and say "Look how brilliant we are!". There's a saying in my country "Like rats fixing a pumpkin". The patch job for the mess *they made* actually made things worse. One must ask "What was the point of this story?" Was it for memberberries? Was it so the writers could make their mark on the Star Wars universe? Did the benefits outweigh the costs? The cost of cheapening mental trauma as a plot device subservient to the main plot, the cost of turning Darth Vader into a Bond villain, the cost of sending the message that forgiveness is cheap despite the crimes one has done, the cost of inadvertently turning Leia into a psychopath, the cost of diminishing the quality of writing because they know the fans would do the work for them with the smallest specks of content, etc. And the gains? A shoehorned redemption for Reva, a strange journey for Obi-Wan to get over his guilt in killing Anakin (even though that was not an impediment by the time blades were drawn on Mustafar), and a long-winded explanation of how Ben Solo got his namesake. And while Luke did not see lightsabers, didn't he remember the time he was chased by Reva (who is clearly NOT a Tusken Raider as his uncle said) and got pulled by some supernatural force? And how, after nine years, did he still have the gall to refer Ben as a crazy old hermit after that meeting? Reva's problem goes beyond late revelations of motivations. She lacks ambiguity. You can't make me sympathise with her just because her target was Darth Vader because, in the process of doing so, she does what Vader did to her in the Temple. Her turning point was when she was about to kill Luke. Okay, how many kids and Jedi fugitives has she hunted yet not trigger this epiphany? Why is Luke the trigger, and not the dozens of victims she has kill/capture for ten years? At best, she's what TvTropes calls a nominal hero, someone who acts so villainously that the only reason she's "heroic" is that she targets the bad guys. This is why her "redemption" is cheap. Not to mention that by Star Wars' own logic, her redemption is only complete through noble self-sacrifice. Oh and the massive heat on Obi-Wan and Bail generated from this plot dies off because Palpatine is jealous that Darth Vader is obsessed with Kenobi. The way that scene was presented is strange. I thought peace is a lie, there is only passion. So a burning passion for revenge fueling the Dark Side, coupled with the pragmatism of chasing one of the most powerful Jedi that could intensify the rebellion (remember the Empire knows about this network of rebels and Jedi underground), all that is insignificant because Palpatine is jelly he is not getting Vader's full attention. Not to mention the fact that there is strong circumstantial evidence that the Organas are traitors. Hell, that alone should have intensified surveillance. They could have gotten footage of Obi-Wan hugging Leia.
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 2 жыл бұрын
Why did she even want to kill Luke? Because he was Vaders child? Really?
@neocomp92
@neocomp92 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherstein2024 It is so unclear why Reva has gone to Tatooine. No part of Bail's message refers to Luke as Luke Skywalker. As far as I know, she's targeting Luke because of his importance to Obi-Wan, but this implies a mercurial, somewhat psychopathic motivation to spite Obi-Wan for a botched assassination that *she* botched.
@TlhOnYT
@TlhOnYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@neocomp92 all very confusing. not sure how any of the reva character story arc was signed off.
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@TlhOnYT I think the big bad omen is that they signed off the chase scene with Leia.
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 2 жыл бұрын
Balanced review. I found the series extremely disappointing, and I won't be watching any sequels or spin-offs. My irritation levels were simply too high. I have high hopes for Andor.
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you have high hopes for Andor? I mean if it’s good, that’s great. But isn’t Disney’s track record enough by now to make you temper your expectations?
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pneumanon Well, my view of Disney is nuanced. There are things I like, e.g. season 7 of The Clone Wars (most of it), The Mandalorian, Rogue One, The Bad Batch. The sequel trilogy I dislike. I have high hopes for Andor, because the trailer looks good and Rogue One is a film I really like. But, as ever, if ideology is shoved into it, Andor will suck, too.
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohanHerrenberg I haven't watched the animated stuff, but I generally liked The Mandalorian and I liked Rogue One (though I've only seen it once). Disney can put out decent Star Wars stuff when they hire writers and directors who actually care and respect the legacy and the fan base. Unfortunately that seems to be quite a low priority for them. But hopefully Andor will be a pleasant surprise.
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pneumanon Agreed. As for the animated stuff, there is a lot to enjoy. If you ever watch The Clone Wars, look for a chronological watching order here on KZbin. There is some great Star Wars in there.
@juanjaramillo9390
@juanjaramillo9390 2 жыл бұрын
I truly believe mando has negatively affected star wars. I like the show but its by no means great. Its superficial & it relies too heavily on nostalgia but again it is not terrible. The issue is that the universal appreciation of the show has led to a similar production approach to BOBF & Obi Wan. Both shows are ugly to look at, have mediocre performances, poor action, & too many filler episodes. Lucasfilm assumed they could make these shows the same way they did Mando & it would be universally loved but they were wrong. I’m disappointed. Not in the story that was told, or the plot (even tho it was a bit boring), or even the characters but its in the lack of quality that we continue to see
@cykurosaki1337
@cykurosaki1337 2 жыл бұрын
We didn’t need Reva nor Leia in the show. Nothing racist or sexist about it, they were just poorly written characters.
@jaredrobbins4440
@jaredrobbins4440 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s borderline mirrored-sexist. Disney has expressed a need for an equity “backfill” for women and minorities (sure.), parade that fact around (okay.) then provide them with sub-adequate script. Disney need to snap out of it, pronto.
@terryrocks2j
@terryrocks2j 2 жыл бұрын
That's the problem. Anytime, Disney or any other companies promote agenda's over a good storyline, the movie fails on all levels. Look at Top Gun Maverick: No politics whatsoever and it you had an enjoyable film. Leia should had been nothing more than a cameo in this show. Reva is forced diversity and how she survives not once but twice is totally plot armor.
@LeaderofAlMadrid
@LeaderofAlMadrid 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrocks2j Leia should have a part in the show, but it shouldn't have stretched over the entire show. If he went to rescue her in episode 2 give her and obi wan better moments and boom back to kenobi in episode 3 and focus on the actually relevant stuff
@akimbesswoods3149
@akimbesswoods3149 2 жыл бұрын
Based kurosaki
@hprice8922
@hprice8922 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s scared to call Reva a bad character out of fear being called “racist”
@sars910
@sars910 2 жыл бұрын
"The will to live" or more importantly "the will for revenge" is absolutely a thing in Star Wars as far as the Sith are concerned. One of the main antagonists in KOTOR 2 kept himself alive by the strength of his hatred, even though he had been struck down multiple times. Similarly, Anakin only survived on Mustafar despite his horrific injuries because his hatred would not allow him to die. Therefore, I can stomach why Grand Inquisitor and Reva both survived being impaled by a lightsabre. It's not the best but it's possible. However, after Reva decided that she wasn't going to be Darth Vader and let go of her hatred, she should have died. Thereby indicating that she had left behind "the will for revenge" and finally found peace.
@heresjonny666
@heresjonny666 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the KOTOR 2 guy was seen as an enigma for his ability to keep himself alive via sheer rage. Anakin was the highest potential force user alive at the time, and so him being able to harness that power via rage to survive until Palpatine finds him is also passable. The grand inquisitor should've survived just because of his race - two stomachs meaning he could live. Reva is not powerful, nor an enigma. She should not have survived it. And the rage excuse doesn't wash for when she was a youngling given she wasn't a dark side user then. But above all that, it would have been so much more narratively powerful to have her just die vs Vader.
@WR288
@WR288 2 жыл бұрын
I give it a 6/10 overall, not perfect by any definition but ended with a bang. The underlying problems appear to be the writing and lack of a sufficient budget. The cast and crew did a decent job with what they had but Disney dropped the ball in key areas.
@theprowler18
@theprowler18 2 жыл бұрын
It was a wet fart of a finale overall and reek of cost cutting corners (reliant on close up shots and shaky cam to simulate tension visually, instead of writing/directing it better in the performances). If that's the budget, yeesh, it didn't look that way at all. Especially with the poorly used green screen/projection effects. It reinforced why this didn't have the legs or creative purpose to be a series, and should have been a film with a more focused, creatively skilled group than what was given in this mess of a series? (as there are talks about continue it, for some reason).
@wanyekest6969
@wanyekest6969 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanMeller1988 the team hired to handle kenobi was ass
@thephoenixxm4160
@thephoenixxm4160 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisquinn3377 That duel was NOT awful. It was 10x better than any of the Sequel trilogy's duels, that is for sure.
@mopnem
@mopnem 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisquinn3377 yeah I just assumed they had no budget lol
@thicccactus6056
@thicccactus6056 2 жыл бұрын
The Cinematography, the music, the set pieces, the narrative tension, the lightsabers, the climax to the arcs are NOT STARWARS. And the amount of wasted screen time of just moving landscape shots with empty worlds with little to no world building. Star Wars is supposed to FEEL epic. All of these concepts I listed work so well in start wars because it’s really a love letter to cinema. Watch how George Lucas talks about making these movies. There all based on tropes and powerful scenes and ideas from Previous cinema. This is such a shame to see…
@DaTruthHurtzzzz
@DaTruthHurtzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
its star wars to me and the rest of the majority, just because you and a tiny 1% have some weird nostalgia effect doesn't mean you shit on the new stuff. If we go back to the og trilogy it was all dumb af and could of ended asap
@65mcman
@65mcman 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaTruthHurtzzzz facts. I hate fans that at like this now. Just because technology has advanced and things look a little different all of a sudden it’s not Star Wars. Fans said it with the prequals, and they’ll say it with everything because nothing satisfies them unless it’s Luke Skywalker being bad ass.
@thicccactus6056
@thicccactus6056 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaTruthHurtzzzz dude I’m 19 and grew up with the prequels, watched every episode of clone wars and rebels. Had the lego sets the video games, just about as big as a star wars fan you could be. And this show was NOT STAR WARS. This show and boba fett have been the first Star Wars projects to actually disappoint me so I’m not a anti China Disney hater, just a sad fan
@65mcman
@65mcman 2 жыл бұрын
@@thicccactus6056 dude I’m 22 and grew up with all the same shit, my father has been a fan since ‘77, and we both very much agree it’s very much Star Wars. Good luck with your sad opinion 👍🏽
@thicccactus6056
@thicccactus6056 2 жыл бұрын
@@65mcman every episode had moments of star wars greatness but it takes such weird routes to get there story wise, and the budget to me seemed very low. Plus I thought it was going to be more of a Vader and anakin story focused show but wasn’t that so I’m not just hating the show because Disney I just thought it was a weak bridge from ch:3 to ch:4
@nemnymeria7873
@nemnymeria7873 2 жыл бұрын
No ,I think Obi-wan shouldn't be like that, because he didn't lose hope. The hope is close to him, it's Luke, and he's actually intended to train Luke. He even said to Owen in EP.1 'When the time comes, the boy must be trained.' But how could Obi-wan trains anyone? He can't even connected to the Force. The writer wrote him to be completely powerless, but when Bail asked him to rescue Leia... He said 'my duty is with the boy'.... Really? Let's say if there's an attack on Owen's farm, how could Obi-wan help them? He buried both lightsabers in the middle of the desert (which he magically founds them again after 10 years). He's got no gun, like no weapon at all (as we saw none in that man cave he's in). tbh It's just lazy writing and plot holes all around, just to cash grab the fans.
@cacuevas
@cacuevas 2 жыл бұрын
Also Leia, she has a close relationship with Obi-Wan but in ep. 4 her message made it obvious that she never meet him
@neocomp92
@neocomp92 2 жыл бұрын
You can write Obi-Wan with depression, PTSD, survivor's guilt etc. But it needs to be addressed head on. Much like the scene with the homeless clone trooper, whatever mental illness Obi-Wan has is given only superficial focus. It is only there as instant angst generator linked to his power block. The writers only want quick emotional reactions without diving into the serious subject that cannot be resolved in a single step. Thus, Obi-Wan starts as a depressed bum with no explanation of what happened. He resolved it in 15 minutes in Eps 4. And a quick burst of Leia's memory resolved his "loss of confidence" in the final fight. Don't expect Lucasfilm writers or the fans to come to a group therapy session because these fools clearly do not want to stare into the abyss as the patients do.
@jazz_daddy251
@jazz_daddy251 2 жыл бұрын
OP I couldn’t agree more. A hopeless, disconnected, untrained Obi-Wan never should have existed. He has two jobs, protect Luke and preserve the Jedi way because it’s only him and Yoda left. Disney hates Jedi. Kids these days will think of obi wan and Luke as mopey sad old men. What a tragedy.
@Leonardo.778
@Leonardo.778 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how interesting it would have been, if we knew right from the beginning that Riva wants to kill Vader. The scenes between them would have been so intense with the constant threat of Vader finding out about her true intentions or Riva taking the risk and attacking him.
@kooteckkirby1982
@kooteckkirby1982 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I just discovered you. I’m like 80-90% out on star wars. This show HAD to be great. At the very least pretty good. The show was average at best. They had the easiest lay up with all these characters and just fumbled worse than Mark Sanchez. Also I whole heartedly agree with no one dying after getting stabbed. There’s no finality with Star Wars. With darth maul, boba fett, the emporer, and these characters surviving clear deaths. Who’s to say Anakin/Vader is really dead or Cad Bane, Mace Windu, Jango fett, etc. Official Star Wars content has way more bad than good unfortunately. And the sad part is, it has the greatest potential. I’m just glad you’re being honest about this unlike other Star Wars KZbinrs “cough” Eckhartladder *cough*.
@draganblastovicz7487
@draganblastovicz7487 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who feels insulted by this total sith show? So many idiotic decisions are made.. so many plot holes.. like Reva going after Luke even after Vader tried to kill her? This makes no sense at all.. why would she still try to do Vader’s bidding after the reveal she wanted vengeance? Why would a star destroyer stop fallowing the rebels as Vader fallows Kenobi in his own ship? Where is Obi going at the end while we all know he stayed close to Luke. This Sith show makes NO SENSE! Btw, the music was really, really insignificant.. the score of the Mandalorian was so much better..
@jamesgordon2788
@jamesgordon2788 2 жыл бұрын
Calm down it’s not real life
@BrightVictory308
@BrightVictory308 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, the writers of the show completely forgot about the existence of TIE fighters. They show them hang from the ceiling, yet are never launched when TWO BLOODY AIRSPEEDERS attack the base! And apparently Vader's star destroyer forgot to load any fighters before departure, too bad, they could have used them to CHASE DOWN THE TRANSPORT WITH NO HYPERDRIVE, which was apparently drifting lazily to the left well enough that like 40 turbolasers couldn't hit it, while the destroyer followed Obi-Wan.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 жыл бұрын
This is a stupid comment sorry. 1. Reva goes after Luke to kill Luke to get back at Vader. She doesn’t know that he doesn’t know about him. 2. Let’s say the destroyer chased the rebel ship. And Vader went in his own. Then Vader is stranded on that planet for way longer before he is saved, and he potentially dies. 3. In episode 4 Obi is seen in a hut. He’s probably going to either build that hut or purchase it. While I would’ve liked more iconic music, some the themes are good. Like the inquisitors (it might be revas) theme, and the main Kenobi theme
@LankyCoop
@LankyCoop 2 жыл бұрын
This show had so much potential. I hasn't quite lived up to it. The final fight between obi wan and Vader in episode 6 was too shakey. The camera made it hard to focus on the fight. Apparently Dave filoni and Favreau want to creat another "season" of obi wan that they would direct instead of Deborah chow. In that second "season" they are suppose to bring back a couple characters that I'm not going to spoil incase it actually happens. The plot seems more consistent and focuses more on obi wan than a random character that was placed into a show becuase of the color of their skin.
@JulesD92
@JulesD92 2 жыл бұрын
Too shaky lmao
@RegginaldRiglet
@RegginaldRiglet 2 жыл бұрын
This video essay was so well done. The writing was the level of which I’d hoped obi wan would have been. Fantastic work mate
@domarcon9826
@domarcon9826 2 жыл бұрын
It's so crazy. The first time i saw your channel i thought "oh well, just another movie critic channel with like half a million subscribers and high quality videos" and i was literally shocked to see that you only had about 3000 subs at the time. You deserve so much more. The quality and effort put in your videos is so crazy. I will follow your career with great interest
@danielschriever4531
@danielschriever4531 2 жыл бұрын
It happend the exact thing i expected to happen in this episode. So many continuity things were broken in this episode just to force the ending the creators wanted...
@ben_sisko2149
@ben_sisko2149 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, mate: it's really sad you feel you have to explain why you are critical of something you love... well, because you love it. That's why parent's feel dissapointed in their kids. Praising something like a brainless idiot is something that someone that wants you to remain mediocre would do. Keep doing what you do. YES! Disney has done a very poor job with probably the easiest series idea out there. An Obi-Wan Kenobi series should have been a no brainer. Just have Kenobi reflect on the past, have some flashbacks with Anakin that help us and him understand how he failed him and how Kenobi grows as a teacher so he can do a better job with Luke and have some action at a low level. If the series has to be 3 episodes, so be it. Oh, and one last thing: the series should have been about Obi-Wan Kenobi, not Reva (also, it doesn't make sense that Vader didn't kill someone who knew he is Anakin Skywalker immediately) or Leia. The one with the most amount of character development should be the one the series is named after and this was NOT the case. PS: you're totally right on the directing being mediocre. The shot of the final fight, for example, feel just random.
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree that it would be a no brainer to write this. This time period was pretty much complete with Obi-Wan being an old guy on Tatooine in 4 that didn't hear his name "in a looong time, a long time" and Vaders reaction to meeting his "master" again. So I always expected this to be kind of akward and they didn't change my mind. With the networking in Star Wars, it's something I have been frustated with for a long time. I used to partially blame Filoni for this, Ahsoka really is the Reva to Anakin if we are honest with ourselves and of course she also gets more screentime in the Mandalorian that most Mandalorians in the show. And nobody dies anymore. For me they already ruined it with Maul because that guy was more than dead in the film but seems like other fans are getting tired of it too.
@liamphibia
@liamphibia 2 жыл бұрын
Deborah Chow, Robert Rodriguez, what happened to you guys? Your directions were so amazing in the Mandalorian what's going on with you two??
@zoosti7802
@zoosti7802 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. You're speaking my language with this review. It's awesome that you find time between work and life to put videos together. Subscribed!
@MsKekeChannel
@MsKekeChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer fan films, quality aside, at least there is a passion for what is being made.
@kuuzo4858
@kuuzo4858 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so underated! Keep uploading 😊 just subbed
@luluflu1140
@luluflu1140 2 жыл бұрын
This show happens before rebels and in Rebels the empire and Vader wants to use Ashoka to get to other jedi such as Kenobi and this means that Vader did not give his search for Kenobi during this time and could have use Leia again to do it. This show doesn't quite fit into the Disney Canon.
@MukiMuki688
@MukiMuki688 2 жыл бұрын
Vader's mask getting damaged and the words shared between him and Obi-Wan has probably become one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Wars. Say what you want about the rest of the series, but this specific moment is perfectly written, directed, and acted. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen have such good on-screen chemistry. Ewan nails Alec Guiness' speech pattern perfectly. Hayden gets a lot of flak for the prequels sometimes but honestly it's the dialogs fault and not his. George Lucas wrote some wonky lines for that role in the prequel. INTERSTELLAR Main Theme Guitar kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpelZXiwbq6Uf5I Killing Arasaka... | Cyberpunk 2077 Rebel Path Guitar MV kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmTCe6WOrNdnoZI Alucard and Trevor Battle Baroque Guitar MV (Lost Cathedral) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaqlg42Jg898fNU
@thomasmalet2142
@thomasmalet2142 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it's a good moment, you know why? Because it had been done before in rebels. Anything that is mildly good or entertaining in this show is either a call back to the OT/PT or just a total rip off of something that had been done in SW already. I couldn't even enjoy that scene to the fullest because it had been done much better before.
@RumplestiltskinGaming
@RumplestiltskinGaming 2 жыл бұрын
That, and if you've played Fallen Order you'll see even more things in the show that were taken from the game.
@thomasmalet2142
@thomasmalet2142 2 жыл бұрын
@@RumplestiltskinGaming Exactly, when I saw Obi Wan infiltrate the fortress, I was like "so not only did they not fix the major security risk from 5 years ago, but they also loosened their security". Last time it took night sister's magic to not only get in but also get out but you also had to fight one inquisitor and get your ass handed to you by Vader. This time Obi walks unseen passed 3 inquisitors + Vader with freaking Leïa in a trench coat because.... poor writing ?! You serious ?!!
@jwroot
@jwroot 2 жыл бұрын
8:30 The way Remnicore says: "But I can't get over this!" while stuttering made me *crack!* XD
@Sploberrie
@Sploberrie Жыл бұрын
If I got shanked in one kidney, I would be able to live my life without that kidney, but I wouldn't be able to survive the shanking without immediate medical care.
@siemabyq6703
@siemabyq6703 2 жыл бұрын
This should be movie and it would be good, and Obi fight with Vader should be longer, like the one on mustafar
@jakempls
@jakempls 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with your Moses Ingram and John Boyega point. Mega-corporations like Disney are being incredibly irresponsible with how they handle Black actors and actresses. They are literally an institution with billions of dollars, but can’t take the time to give PoC actors real stories and fleshed out character arcs. “we’ll use your identity for marketing, but won’t give you the time & respect you deserve as an actor”
@Thecatint1
@Thecatint1 2 жыл бұрын
I think generally speaking, the show did a solid job at converting an emotionally-broken for years Obi Wan into a heart-filled, focused, and strong af Ben Kenobi (i.e. killing Maul in 3 moves, something you knew he couldn't do before isolation). However, as a viewer, I think Episodes 5 and 6 were really the ones that "filled" all my desires for the show. Honestly at the end of Episode 3 I was on a big low for thoughts on the directing, and the depiction of the other inquisitors plus the first vader fight was interest-killing for me. As the show progressed though I think it fixed itself with regards to Reva and Kenobi. If the series was instead a Movie as opposed to a TV series, and the filler Reva hunting scenes were cut down to one chase, everything would've panned out much better.
@fxbeliever123
@fxbeliever123 2 жыл бұрын
When the Grand Inquisitor says "the will to live" that was more so directed to Reva and why they kept her around; redirecting her anger for their purpose, than it is to explain his own survival - at least that's my takeaway.
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I also think he got that wrong. Might have also been a reference to himself looking forward to his own revenge while he was injured. Also I don't think that she survived being stabbed twice, that seemed like a reveal of their inner feelings with Vader catching "the Youngling" in the end. Kind of a circle (It's like poetry, it rhymes;) )
@vidma6
@vidma6 2 жыл бұрын
I have an issue with lightsaber sparks
@simrandeepsekhon76
@simrandeepsekhon76 2 жыл бұрын
There was literally a star destroyer waiting outside the planet and kenobi just left after beating vader. How sway
@charbelsayegh16
@charbelsayegh16 2 жыл бұрын
Vader said that he wanted to go alone
@udaysoni2474
@udaysoni2474 2 жыл бұрын
I mean maybe it could be that Vader asked for help and the Grand Inquisitor told the troops not to focus on Obi-Wan. Could be possible considering he didn’t care about Obi-Wan in the previous scene either.
@dacienvegas2712
@dacienvegas2712 2 жыл бұрын
A missed opportunity. There. That's my review.
@iago8761
@iago8761 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't like qui gon's appearance without let him explained anything at least about the last event. I didn't like Vader could be easily beaten without any explanation, otherwise in revenge of the sith we had lust for power and the Greeks meaning of limit. I didn't like Obi-wan didn't talked at all about padme and any bound to anankin from his point of view during the last battle.
@donny8619
@donny8619 2 жыл бұрын
5/10 and thats being generous. Shame we had to sit through 4 shitty episodes to get to the last two arguably decent ones. Too many underutilised characters (Anakin, Qui-gon, Grand Inquisitor, etc) Too many Overutilised characters (Reva, Leia, Bunch of other useless background dudes). Honestly, people should just watch the first episode, only watch the recaps of 2, 3 and 4, then watch the last two. I only paid $12 for a disney+ subscription to see more of Haydon and Ewan and I still feel I wasted $12
@Hakspheenom
@Hakspheenom 2 жыл бұрын
Fight of the century..? 🤔 That's gotta be a joke right.. . Imo.. another illogical dimly lit, card board episode that seriously comes across as more of a PARODY of their better movie selves. Fight scene lacked a certain gravitas when instead it should have been super epic; was nowhere near the standard, for example of.. Maul vs Kenobi /Qui-Gon, ROTS, or any off the Vader duels from the Movies. Even the KZbin SC-38, lol, still appears far more thrilling and compelling. Vader's fight scenes work better in more enclosed/confined environments, like within a facility or on board a ship, as opposed to wide open, very dark spaces. In this episode, Vader appears relatively oddly under-powered, and ends up towards the end of confrontation, going from the powerful force wielding, dark Lord of the Sith.. literally single-handedly, manhandling entire spaceships; to simply getting beaten up, lol again, nerfed then ko'd initially by a few floating rocks🙄, that he seemingly now cannot pause/deflect, despite having kinda force paused a huge rock only a few moments earlier. . And, considering what a neck breaking, homicidal, galactical menace Vader is, would otherwise make no sense, that you'd then allow someone like that to live.. Lol, it's just written all wrong and they've done Vader character no favours here.. It's like Disney just throw all the right ingredients into a large pot but then fail to properly prepare ingredients or cook em right. And, let's not even get started lol on the shanked Reva, uniquely on this occasion, not even having the need to use, the over used lol, Bacta tank... Episode and whole show has been kinda off. Lacked movie quality /cinematography, poorly and inconsistently written, and looked like entire series had been filmed on a dimly lit theatre stage on an even tighter budget. Lol I even had to adjust the power saving settings on the ole tv box to high brightness 🔆. Maybe Kenobi and Vader are just not meant for TV, certainly not in the manner that Disney produce and write it anyway. Something tells me that maybe a Netflix would have done a far better job.. But I'm reaching and digress.. For me, episode was simply ok - ish in bits, underwhelming in parts, and nowhere near mind-blowing.. It'll be interesting how folks feel about this in a couple days time, once the dust settles and everyone's had a chance to digest.. 🤔 .
@iamyourfather4270
@iamyourfather4270 2 жыл бұрын
Kenobi surrendered to a small bunch of Stormstroopers just 3 episodes ago... And now he destroyed Darth Vader (who went from stopping a big ass spaceship like nothing, to getting knocked by a bunch of floating rocks lol)
@Hakspheenom
@Hakspheenom 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamyourfather4270 lol exactly...makes no sense..
@looseends1270
@looseends1270 2 жыл бұрын
The poor lighting was atrocious. You can barely see his face.
@Hakspheenom
@Hakspheenom 2 жыл бұрын
@@looseends1270 I know.. I had to adjust the energy saving buttons on me tv, to bright 🔆 🙄
@loz9324
@loz9324 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Your videos are well done and you have a great voice for youtube. Keep it up!
@Malgus87
@Malgus87 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not spoiling it like how other youtubers did with episode 5 in the thumbnail.
@wildbard4112
@wildbard4112 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the show. It has its problems and did not meet all my expectations but I still enjoyed it. I was fine with Reva's motivations being revealed later in the season. I like it when stuff lets the watcher speculate character motivations and doesn't tell you right away. I think that it makes the character more interesting. As a side note, I kind of disagree with your whole "stabbing" tangent. Because where Reva got stabbed it looked like it was on the left side of her body, whereas Qui Gon Jinn got stabbed through the spine.
@SneakyShelf00
@SneakyShelf00 2 жыл бұрын
The show is full of way too many plot holes for me. And the stabbing part adds to the "oh he's dead but he's actually alive" problem that Star Wars had right now. Deaths hold a little less weight as a result
@beezysbeatz4924
@beezysbeatz4924 2 жыл бұрын
Leia didn't shed a tear for Alderaan either
@gregotte2680
@gregotte2680 2 жыл бұрын
You sir earned yourself a sub, I'm tired of these "breakdown" channels just shilling for Disney
@kieranmurray3592
@kieranmurray3592 2 жыл бұрын
I liked it I also feel people are just hating it to hate it because star wars fans are imposable to please for most part.
@BoandDebbieMulder
@BoandDebbieMulder 2 жыл бұрын
When the F*CK will kathleen Kennedy go away?
@paulparker7079
@paulparker7079 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I’m not saying this directly to people who disliked obi-Wan Kenobi and vice versa, but it feels like no matter what era of Star Wars were in there will always be disagreements lol
@jazz_daddy251
@jazz_daddy251 2 жыл бұрын
We just want good writing, man. Just give us a story with no plot holes and most of us will be happy. I’m sick of Disney ruining Star Wars
@paulparker7079
@paulparker7079 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazz_daddy251 For real and I agree with that, it seems like their series for me personally are really good when I first watched them but the more time I have to think about the writing and direction of certain scenes the more that holes pop up in them
@jazz_daddy251
@jazz_daddy251 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulparker7079 they honestly feel more like high-budget fan made films than actually studio made don’t they
@paulparker7079
@paulparker7079 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazz_daddy251 that’s a very good point, I love the first six Star Wars films ever since I was a kid, George Lucas had a very specific vision and message when he made those movies but I just don’t get that same kind of vibe from the Disney ones at all
@Us3r739
@Us3r739 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with you guys is that your expectations are way too high for these shows and movies like we’re still in a fucking pandemic wake up
@anwarnaveedali4412
@anwarnaveedali4412 2 жыл бұрын
16:32 Grade A editing right there man. Good job. Funny as hell.
@HeavyMetalJesus02
@HeavyMetalJesus02 2 жыл бұрын
If you had told me when I was a kid at the end of RoTS that there was going to be a television show about Obi-Wan and Darth Vader and that it was mediocre, I would have looked at you as if you grew two heads. Now I am just kinda tired of Star Wars. I am one of the people that considers Disney Star Wars peaked with Rogue 1 and S1 of Mandalorian. A lot of the plot feels unearned going place to place based on a flimsy reason for it. Outside of context scenes can look pretty good. Havent watched the last episode yet, but I watched the final fight for the season finale and it bothers me that Obi-Wan AGAIN didn't go for the finishing blow against Anakin only because he couldn't deal the final blow without some serious continuity errors
@thephoenixxm4160
@thephoenixxm4160 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why Obi-Wan doesn't kill Vader is because it solves nothing at all. Killing Vader won't be the end of the Empire will Palpy still around. He will just find another enforcer. He wanted Anakin to be redeemed. Killing him then wouldn't have redeemed anything.
@renmusical
@renmusical 2 жыл бұрын
It would have changed how the Original Trilogy would eventually turn out had Obi Wan killed Vader right there. It feels like that it was fated for Luke would be the one to help his father complete the prophecy by redeeming himself and killing Palpatine. Although this show was not perfect overall, some of the best moments make Return of the Jedi more impactful if you ask me.
@mopnem
@mopnem 2 жыл бұрын
I mean mandalorian literally is going place to place like a video game fetch quest
@thegifting267
@thegifting267 2 жыл бұрын
​@@thephoenixxm4160 How wouldn’t taking out one of the most powerful villains who is going to kill countless innocence not change anything? I should also mention that Obi-Wan didn’t believe Vader can be redeemed. Why do I say this? Obi-Wan believes Anakin is dead and now Vader is just this monster who kills innocence. By the way there’s that line in the originals too.
@thephoenixxm4160
@thephoenixxm4160 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegifting267 Like I said, Palpatine is still out there. Palpatine had always wanted to replace Vader anyway. He would just find someone else.
@adriankaufmann3007
@adriankaufmann3007 2 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched the fight between Vader and Obi Wan in the final episode with Battle of Heroes and later I'm So Sorry synced up in another Tab...Our lord and saviour John Williams would have made me bawl if he composed the entire series' music
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ 2 жыл бұрын
The toxicity and hate in the comments is unbelievable. The internet really does allow the bottom feeders a subtle entrance to strike on the surface The show is like the prequels, it is contentious now, but in 20 years you will be hailing it as a masterpiece, so shut up and leave the actors and production staff be
@tuga__64
@tuga__64 2 жыл бұрын
i rlly didnt like the lightsaber duels especially the camera work on them
@Vicdaprick
@Vicdaprick 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree I couldn’t even tell vader threw his light saber at reva in their duel until I rewatched it
@olivercrespo2329
@olivercrespo2329 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just hilarious the Disney scrapped all the EU stuff, and now twice they have ripped off there own other properties because they have no ideas. First they ripped off fallen order and now they ripped off rebels. It’s actually hilarious. And that last fight was so shittily lit and choreographed I could barely tell wtf was happening.
@thephoenixxm4160
@thephoenixxm4160 2 жыл бұрын
You people don't know what good choreography is. That duel was good. I saw zero negatives with it. It was better than the Sequel's duels by far. If you couldn't tell what was happening you are blind and may need glasses or better glasses if you are wearing glasses.
@fineoner808
@fineoner808 2 жыл бұрын
Summarized up: Disney has fucked Star Wars all the way thru and without George Lucas, it will never be the same and will never produce content of his caliber. It’s like what happened on Pirates of the Caribbean without Johnny depp. No Johnny, Lucas, or person who makes the movie what it is, no success. Disney has rid Star Wars of everything that makes it special. it’s involved Star Wars in political bullshit and is trying to expand it to a bunch of new crap that no one wants. And the one thing the fans actually wanted which was this show; they terribly botch it, slam the fanbase with woke politics, and give the most mid series ever. Thanks a lot Disney
@slowowned51
@slowowned51 2 жыл бұрын
also luke being chased by reva makes no sense like dude was shocked to see a lightsaber and didn't really explore the galaxy. I doubt he would forget some mad woman chasing him 😅
@eruseayt9244
@eruseayt9244 2 жыл бұрын
i thought it was pretty good but agree with you on reeva
@Briansgate
@Briansgate 2 жыл бұрын
Lore? Canon? Pfft, who needs it.
@flow2081
@flow2081 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the show lost most of my interest after episode 3. I did like the first 2 episodes, and I honestly thought it was a pretty interesting start of this story, but ultimately, After Leia got captured again, Darth letting Obi Wan go, even though it looked like it wasn't his intention and Reva teleporting from one side of the tunnel to the other was weird. I think if Leia was returned to Alderaan after epi 3 and they showed a more toying vader, it would have worked better. They could've focussed the rest of the story on Obi Wan trying to flee, while being chased by the empire. The setting of the fourth episode was great, but the visual effects, action, dumb moments and the bad story ruined it for me. Episode 5 was kind of fun, the action (except Reva vs Vader) was pretty bland, but the dumbest thing in this episode is the fact that Reva survived. If they had killed her off, they could've focussed the last episode entirely on Vader vs Obi Wan, but instead during the fun fight scenes, they went to the far dumber part of the story. Also why did Bail contact Obi about Luke and that he was going to tatooine to take care of the boy, but ultimately never showed up? Did he bail (pun intended) on the promise he himself made to Obi Wan??
@scottr2279
@scottr2279 2 жыл бұрын
Moses Ingram is an ATROCIOUS actor. And why...does...she ...deliver her ...lines...in such a...staggered way.
@CyberScifi
@CyberScifi 2 жыл бұрын
The Grand Inquisitor "The will to live" STILL works. Being stabbed by a lightsaber is a dangerous life threatening affair whether you have 2 stomachs or not. People being stabbed and not dying is a problem for me in all instances. And Obi Wan not killing Vader I have issues with as well even though I know that cannot happen.
@_.HERCULES._
@_.HERCULES._ 2 жыл бұрын
So true, the fact that in order 66 flashback everything was so clean,polished and shiny and not at all lived in made that scene look extremely cheap. No smudges, no dust, nothing.
@frankeinstein1570
@frankeinstein1570 2 жыл бұрын
Wow i would have never guessed it was the same composer from Loki at all! Loki soundtrack was absolute fire
@dillontrainvids25
@dillontrainvids25 2 жыл бұрын
We’re allowed to critique the things we love
@dnaseb9214
@dnaseb9214 2 жыл бұрын
This isnt "star wars", its Disney fan fiction.
@dnaseb9214
@dnaseb9214 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for all the insect brains who enjoyed it
@Santinho123
@Santinho123 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree with 💯 of this
@sideways8films488
@sideways8films488 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you’re fun at parties
@artpatron719
@artpatron719 2 жыл бұрын
I loved it. Looking fwd to the next phases.
@thefalselemon579
@thefalselemon579 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just because it's been stuck in my head, but is the song in this video a remixed version of Runway Houses, City, Clouds by Tame Impala? I swear I hear Kevin's voice say "And" when the chord before the first verse hits, when the drums roll a bit every couple measures. The guitar's sound quality is very similar, if not the same, down to the effects it's being put through.
@arturoherrera1386
@arturoherrera1386 2 жыл бұрын
The first movie I ever saw in a theater (5 years old) was The Empire Strikes Back. What blew my mind then was Yoda's interaction with Obi-wan saying "No....there is another." That blew my 5-year-old mind. Now, I kept thinking about that interaction and how Ben spent all that time with Leia without sensing ANYTHING. The Fifth Brother looks like he found Space Doritos. And yeah, it took too long to explain Reva's motivation.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 жыл бұрын
Obi obviously knows both children are force sensitive lol. Obiwan knew this
@arturoherrera1386
@arturoherrera1386 2 жыл бұрын
@@oXRaptorzXo Plus, Obi was there when they were born. Obi-Wan Kenobi noted that Luke was their last hope. Yoda responded, "No, there is another." It makes that line more incompatible in ESB. I like the Obi wan series. I am going to have to watch it a few more times to appreciate it.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 жыл бұрын
@@arturoherrera1386 well that line never made much sense to me anyway so I don’t really mind the issue. And also, that was really used for the sole purpose of foreshadowing.
@rizkyfarrelfernando
@rizkyfarrelfernando 2 жыл бұрын
Yep this show is far from perfect, but hey at least we got another "hello there"
@invalidusername6809
@invalidusername6809 2 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know why she went after Luke
@xploitalpha5907
@xploitalpha5907 2 жыл бұрын
I think she wanted to prove something but idk it made no sense
@RedSun446
@RedSun446 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the funny thing is, the beginning intro theme to this show sounds like the Spider-Man PS4 game theme
@CaddieSmooth
@CaddieSmooth 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to these key fight scenes idk why they always make them very dark and murky. From a directing perspective, all the shaky cam style cinematography really makes these scenes feel small. The lack of original score is absolutely the most infuriating thing for me because they used Duel of Fates in every single trailer but when it comes to the show we get this generic garbage (minus Kenobi’s theme). It just makes no sense because we’ve seen what the volume can do in Mando season 2 and Deborah has directed some really solid episodes but everything besides the acting feels low budget and they try to hide that with dark scenes and shaky cam. This is the one show you needed to feel like a movie and they did the opposite… Great to have Ewan and Hayden back tho, I hope we see them again!
@ipunchedu8884
@ipunchedu8884 2 жыл бұрын
i don't get why they didn't use duel of the fates in their final fight
@deltagamma82
@deltagamma82 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. The music was super lackluster. Not good enough for a show of this caliber.
@monolithichashies7477
@monolithichashies7477 Жыл бұрын
17:43 we didn't expect too much, we expected a bare minimum standard of logical constance. Just because greedy corporations don't care to deliver products to that standard doesn't mean you should lower yours.
@jesuspernia8031
@jesuspernia8031 2 жыл бұрын
New canon Star Wars material so far has been nothing but garbage. Not just the movies, but the shows and the games too.
@davidlumley796
@davidlumley796 2 жыл бұрын
So I've written this elsewhere but I'll say that the star destroyer chase scene was rediculius. They keep an even distance for about 15 minutes and don't get shot down, or have Tie Fighters launched against them. They have a damaged hyperdrvie, but actually have a escape craft with a hyperdrvie. Most likely a compatible one they could salvage for parts. They should not have written that the escape craft had a hyperdrvie because it should be an easy out. When Kenobi leaves the planet.. Have him steal parts, or the lambda class shuttle, then scuttle it.
@ek5268
@ek5268 2 жыл бұрын
Literally couldn’t agree more, my exact thoughts. Thank you for voicing them
@officernealy
@officernealy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with the show, but I kinda wish the series was cut down and re-edited to be a movie.There are enough genuinely great scenes, even with a lack of budget, where they could have been spliced together and make a pretty compelling two and a half hour long feature.
@BomermanRules
@BomermanRules 2 жыл бұрын
A bigger budget and a tighter story would of slapped. Alot of great moments sprinkled in with wtf moments. If they cut the fat it would of been brilliant.
@economicswithalex
@economicswithalex 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly i completely agree with the take on cheap fight scenes. The action scenes in this show felt so unsatisfying. Most of the time you can visibly see that the lightsaber doesn't even touch the enemies and for some reason people are still swinging lightsabers like baseball bats. It doesn't even look flashy and appealing like the prequels, it just looks goofy.
@twitch_revolution4038
@twitch_revolution4038 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree the fact that in ep4 obi-wan light saber bounces of a stormtrooper just ruins the emersion for me and makes me wonder what when through there head to do that.
@McMingus
@McMingus 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit congrats on the sponsorship man
@ChrisPTenders
@ChrisPTenders 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Episodes 5 and 6, when they actually started telling their story. I agree with everything pointed out in the video, but the biggest issue that I think contributed to my agitated sigh at the end of every episode before those last two is the structure of the show. If this show were a movie, the first act is Episode 1, the second half of the second act after the midpoint is Episode 5, and the third act is Episode 6. There's Episode 2, 3, and 4 all looping through the first half of the second act, each one starting over on a new planet and set piece. The plot barely feels like it's advancing, and spends three episodes undermining tension and trying the patience of viewers. The way it is, it goes back and forth in the rising tension: - Episode 2, Leia was captured and taken to an Imperial operated planet, Obi-Wan rescues her. - Episode 3, Obi-Wan is escorting Leia off planet, encounters Vader but escapes, Reva kidnaps Leia. - Episode 4, Leia was captured and taken to an isolated Imperial base, Obi-Wan rescues her. I think they did this to fit a structure of having each shocking revelation they had in store be at the end of an episode. They probably thought this would escalate the tension, but they stupidly centered the rising tension around the characters' safety, two characters we all know survive. - Episode 2, Ben finds out Vader is alive. - Episode 3, oh no, Reva captured Leia. Will the girl we know survives be okay? - Episode 4, oh no, Reva put a tracker on Leia's robot. Is the girl in danger? Again? - Episode 5, Reva finds a hologram conveniently detailing where to find Anakin's other child, who we know survives several movies and lives to be an old man. A better way, Episode 3 could easily have been split between Episodes 2 and 4: - Episode 2, have Ben rescue Leia and learn about Vader, take her where they're going, and end off with Vader approaching for a tease. - Episode 3, open with Vader approaching Kenobi, they fight, Ben loses, then he wakes up in a tank and goes after Leia and rescues her. The way I divvied it up, Episode 2 has a rescue, some character development, then a Vader tease. Balanced, ending with awareness of audience expectation. Then Episode 3 doesn't open with character development, it opens with action, it opens with Vader vs. Kenobi round two, then it goes on to a rescue mission. That way each episode gives a little of what we want, escalating the stakes of the actual story between Kenobi and Vader, giving each episode a satisfying step forward toward what people really wanted to see, a satisfying escalation of stakes until the story concludes the way we all expected it to. - Episode 2 with Vader hype. - Episode 3 with Vader action. - Episode 4 (Episode 5, as-is) with Vader hype. - Episode 5 (Episode 6, as-is) with Vader action. The structure made people feel like it was about Leia, trying to be "Logan" or "The Last of Us". It should have been structured around the thing they marketed it with: REMATCH. They told me I couldn't do a PowerPoint presentation in the KZbin comments.
@PavelRizzo
@PavelRizzo 2 жыл бұрын
Chiming in to say that your comment has some good ideas and analysis. It's sad that this show, although okay, could have been so much more. They played their main card: the return of McGregor on the screen, and telling of his encounters with Vader, with a mediocre TV show without any impressive music or scenes aside from episode 3 (the fire scene), 5 and 6.
@SrbijaCG
@SrbijaCG 2 жыл бұрын
Nonono, buddy. Don't hold back. It's bad. The show is bad.
@mgc936
@mgc936 2 жыл бұрын
The good far out way the bad, why dwell on negative things. yea it could be better but some of the shit we got was brilliant you could make a whole video on the good stuff
@chesswizard31
@chesswizard31 2 жыл бұрын
It was decent but nothing remarkable. For me I thought the first two episodes started strong and then the show took a dive. The finale brought it up again but not significantly so. I would give it a 6.5/10 perhaps.
@anwarnaveedali4412
@anwarnaveedali4412 2 жыл бұрын
"But my brother in CHRIST !" 5:58 LOL
@shugarburke1987
@shugarburke1987 2 жыл бұрын
Brutal Honesty - I don't watch NOBODY'S review of Kenobi until I see yours FIRST!! I don't care how soon they post after the episode airs or how long it takes you to upload while I wait!! Eff them!! You keeps it 100% REAL!!! 🔥👍
@SchrenkMaurice
@SchrenkMaurice 2 жыл бұрын
4 ads plus a product placement, why ?
@joshuwa6036
@joshuwa6036 2 жыл бұрын
Money ? Is he not allowed to make money ?
@SchrenkMaurice
@SchrenkMaurice 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuwa6036 of course, but to much is to much.
@palladinos1
@palladinos1 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo the writers thought it was a good idea to bring in reva with the motivation of... bad man came killed friends and stabbed me soooo I became bad person kill people to get close to bad man to kill him yeah yeah seems smart... Also she is immortal and can teleport
@captaincrunch1707
@captaincrunch1707 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, they got way too into the weeds with her motives. Super convoluted and wishy washy. No suprise that kind of crap leaked into many other areas of the show
@antiseth3964
@antiseth3964 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I think about is how art is supposed to evolve over time. It can grow more complex, nuanced, and heck, it can even change its own overall identity-especially if that was the original creator’s/creators’ intent. That doesn’t mean it will be good. What really bothers me is that most of the Star Wars content Disney puts out hits an uncanny valley of storytelling. With a few rare exceptions, new Star Wars content may look and even feel a bit like Star Wars, but it does not match up on any serious scrutiny. That isn’t even all about the story concepts themselves, rather the fact that Disney’s Star Wars seems like it’s made by a bunch of writers and creators who *cannot think critically* about how what they are putting on screen fits into the franchise-even if they are actually good at what they do. It doesn’t matter how simple or complicated a story is, but it needs to be *tight.* Disney Star Wars does not feel like an extension to an existing franchise. It feels like a completely different work-once that uses an existing collection of art, slaps on a bunch of poorly-made additions, and repurposes it to say something entirely new (and strange). This happened with the prequels too, but the prequels have had nearly *twenty years* to sit in the fans’ collective consciousness and be ridiculed, praised, ridiculed again, and eventually appreciated for their contributions to the IP. What does all of the Disney Star Wars stuff contribute to Star Wars as a whole? It’s honestly unclear at this point. Star Wars now has three eras of content that are all completely different in tone and storytelling approach: the Original Trilogy era, the Prequel Trilogy era, and the Disney era. The OT and Prequel eras are hard enough to reconcile together, but add in the DIsney era? I just don’t know what to think about Star Wars anymore.
@hoineenietjij3331
@hoineenietjij3331 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Personally I think you are right on every point you trying to make. Star Wars didnt really feel like Star Wars anymore. Wtf is up with all those humans on Tatooine.
@Goblincrypt
@Goblincrypt 2 жыл бұрын
terribly sorry, what justify reeva slaughtering and torturing ppl? DnD players know about being evil, and about motives of being evil and what reasonable to do. star wars became marvel. you dont know if someone will die even if you take their head off. Using leia for any case of the show? brainless. no idea whom gave the o.k. but the show has no connection to the original movies. as i keep saying, saving a show by using a few interesting ideas, and a few nice scene dont make a movie or a show. If someone new comes into the star wars and see this go back to the movies, nothing would make sense. the one whom made approved it, has no writers pride. making something believable inside the imaginary world, and that is a shame.
@Jcvt-zm9tt
@Jcvt-zm9tt 2 жыл бұрын
So Jedi are rock proof? I mean the jedi hit each other physically while fighting they all react so if they get hurt by a simple fist or push how can they withstand rocks and bulders hitting them? That killed it for me while Obi and Vader were fighting. Show was below mid for it being made by one of the biggest companies in the world.
@aaronpasache1847
@aaronpasache1847 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the "This Is AWESOME" segment has scenes for just Episode 6, if only the series was like this without the Young Leia and Foxxy Love Inquisitor stuff
@entertainmentnews2831
@entertainmentnews2831 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way everyone ignores the racist comments from Ingram herself. This show is horrific.
2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what everyone says Kenobi series is amazing, 9/10 rate Only old fans know this to be true
@JKeyB
@JKeyB 2 жыл бұрын
People really can’t enjoy things anymore
@joshuwa6036
@joshuwa6036 2 жыл бұрын
How tf you enjoy something that’s just whack, let’s say you support a sports team, would you enjoy watching them even if they fell under set expectations and just became mundane ? Or would you only expect the best and have be hopeful for your team ?
@marvelstarwarsfan8410
@marvelstarwarsfan8410 2 жыл бұрын
I give it a 6/10
@daneast
@daneast 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the fundamental problem with the production of this series is that it isn't a movie, and it isn't truly an episodic TV show. It's somewhere in the middle. Kind of in the territory of a very long (aka Lord of the Rings) film. HOWEVER, it was not produced as a single, wholistic film. It was produced as a TV show. That means that each episode is handled separately. The writing, screenplay, directing, action choreography, etc, are taken care of by different crew in each episode. Of course there is some degree of overlap, but it explains why some aspects were so hit and miss. Even in a really good standard TV series you will have crap episodes. But because of the number of episodes (12-24 in just a single season) they are drowned out by the positive. In this series it was so short and "important" that a single bad filler episode, handled incompetently by screenplay writers and action choreographers / direction, can almost kill the entire thing.
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