Luthier Tips du Jour Mailbag 24 - Finish repair

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OBrienGuitars

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@lurklingX
@lurklingX 2 жыл бұрын
this was amazing. and the part with scraping the glue with the taped razor.... immensely satisfying.
@keithw203
@keithw203 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Michigan. Interesting coincidence. This technique worked like a charm on two guitars of mine. I practiced on my old classical. Then repaired my favorite Taylor. Thanks again for sharing your expertise.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it worked for you. Thanks for watching!
@hni7458
@hni7458 2 жыл бұрын
O'brien's repairs is something one could watch just for the fun of it, even if one never had touched a guitar - true art.
@Nate-gh1hy
@Nate-gh1hy Жыл бұрын
Great Robert! Thanks for sharing. I will try this on my old Yairi classical guitar.
@arcticflying
@arcticflying 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great capsule Robert. You are teaching me the patience I didn't have!
@majorocarroll
@majorocarroll 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because I'm undertaking some work like this tomorrow, but this might be the best KZbin video ever.
@sidneikovacs5499
@sidneikovacs5499 Жыл бұрын
Very good professor. Grande abraço desde Brasil 🙏🏿
@swagner3105
@swagner3105 6 жыл бұрын
i'm able to refine my technique every time i watch one of your videos. if i were able to access your shop in my area i'd just bring my instrument to you. thanks again.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment
@400_billion_suns
@400_billion_suns 2 жыл бұрын
Done like a true professional! Nice work, and thank you for sharing knowledge like this so others can learn from your experience.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful.
@michaeladamcaira9174
@michaeladamcaira9174 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job Robert keep those videos coming
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you are enjoying my videos.
@strategicthinker8899
@strategicthinker8899 4 жыл бұрын
Should have used some light paint to dab the area before applying the glue, so the darker crack would be less visible.
@jthonn
@jthonn 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of late I know, but if he would have just sanded and cleaned it up a little, it would have looked better. The CA glue is clear and you can see it was applied over dirt. also I would have found a little piece of wood or some sawdust for that hole in the binding. Not trying to cut your boy down, he is 10 times the Luthier than I'll ever be.
@philgranito4043
@philgranito4043 6 жыл бұрын
Great job Robert. Thank you for your videos.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you are enjoying my videos.
@eshred69
@eshred69 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea using the taped ends razor blade, as a leveler. -Thanks
@OakLawnSpeedShop
@OakLawnSpeedShop 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Redelius old autobody tip for removing paint runs.
@michaeldorcey9305
@michaeldorcey9305 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I will apply this info to my repair
@yeshuapav5914
@yeshuapav5914 9 ай бұрын
9 years great video
@CactuarKing
@CactuarKing 9 жыл бұрын
excellent video, would you consider doing one on identifying different finishes? i've done a lot of patch repairs like this, but now i'm wondering how many i should have used lacquer for rather than CA.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
+shredpig I have already done a video on that subject. Here it is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJezqGNvm8poa9E Enjoy!
@tonyt.1596
@tonyt.1596 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to pull out some of the dirt in the crack?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
you can try naptha
@thespiritof76..
@thespiritof76.. 5 жыл бұрын
Learning this trick has brought a lot of return business. I haven’t been successful though with Yairi, and Gibson’s.. thinking it’s the nitro but not positive
@familiardave6540
@familiardave6540 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video
@ishvara_meditations7654
@ishvara_meditations7654 9 ай бұрын
Great job!
@huckroger
@huckroger 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of repair can be done over sunburst vernish top without demage the original paint? Thanks
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
This is a clearcoat finish repair so you need to be very careful when doing over a colored finish
@stevevaughan787
@stevevaughan787 8 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Robert. Thanks so much for sharing!
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@embwee
@embwee 7 жыл бұрын
great tips as usual; thanks for sharing your expertise
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@brentbergeson3277
@brentbergeson3277 6 ай бұрын
It would’ve been nice if you told us what type of finish the guitar had on it
@jasonkeating1586
@jasonkeating1586 9 жыл бұрын
I own a guitar with a similar crack. Is there a video showing how you repaired the crack itself before moving on to the finish repair? Thanks! Awesome video man!
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
+Jason Keating Try these kzbin.info/www/bejne/manafXqYi9qcbs0 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2eaaWWAlN99gtU
@stefdejong2779
@stefdejong2779 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this process, used it on my 1969 Höffner 12 string to fill some damages on the top (only had superglue, but it worked pretty good). But I have a Gibson classic guitar, about the same age, which was left in the case for too long and got too dry , with a crack at about the same place but right next to the kerfing so I can't use cleats. As the crack on the guitar in the video looks very similar I wonder how you fixed it. Just gluing and clamping? What, if any, reinforcement would be appropriate to keep it from cracking again. Once the crack is fixed your video for fixing the outside is a great help, thank you ! BTW I am from the Netherlands
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to cleat a crack that is right p next to the kerfing. Usually the CA glue trick is enough. Also keep the guitar humidified. Greetings from Colorado!
@mingpl2077
@mingpl2077 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉Amazing!
@irvin56
@irvin56 7 жыл бұрын
This really worked!!!!! Thank you very much!!!!!
@noelsantos5466
@noelsantos5466 Жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha FG-410-12 and the back is ungued . How can I repair it and what is the best gue to use?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars Жыл бұрын
It is hard for my to give an opinion without seeing the instrument. Probably though, just glue it back with yellow glue.
@taab7
@taab7 7 жыл бұрын
Before sanding down the filled area, should one not mask off the surrounding good area and then use a much smaller size sanding block and paper? In this demo, were you not unneccessarily scratching a large area of good existing finish during the sanding process?
@d3rkd1zz
@d3rkd1zz 7 жыл бұрын
taab7 I'm guessing her did that so it would match the rest of the guitar and so it wouldn't look like a patch job. As you can see after he buffed and polished it the guitar looked incredible
@taab7
@taab7 7 жыл бұрын
You spoke briefly about a catalysed finIsh versus a lacquer finish. Is there a way of discerning what kind of finish an acoustic guitar has just by looking at it or does one have to try to contact the manufacturer (which could be impossible given that so many of them no longer exist.) Have you posted any videos showing minor repairs to a lacquer finish?
@notone4540
@notone4540 7 жыл бұрын
All I know is that lacquer gets really sticky when it warms up , for example when you play a gig for an hour or so, you can put your fingerprint into the neck finish. Catalysed finish should not do this, but I'm no expert.
@DynamicRockers
@DynamicRockers 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5TRl42qf8mXeck
@redrock1963
@redrock1963 5 жыл бұрын
@@DynamicRockers - Thx.
@PeterMajewski-gr3re
@PeterMajewski-gr3re Жыл бұрын
Well, I suppose some would find that exceptable, but the discoloration would drive me nuts.I know that without refinishing the whole surface, not much else can be done, but that's just me. I guess that's the perfectionist in me. BTW, I use crazy glue instead of CA glue. Works well.
@Wargasm644
@Wargasm644 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Not trying to be ugly, but couldn’t you have cleaned the dirt out before sealing it in permanently with super glue? Or perhaps clean and lightly stain it to make it less visible? Just curious as to why you didn’t do this? You obviously took your time and put a good effort into this repair. Just wondering why you would leave out this crucial step? Was it at the request of the customer? Would it have caused more damage? Thanks for any input.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, it probably would have been better to clean the area before proceeding with the finish repair. A lot of what you see in the video is wood oxidation too and not dirt. Many times I would do things differently if the client would let me. Most are on a tight budget so I am limited as to how much work I can do on the instrument.
@Wargasm644
@Wargasm644 4 жыл бұрын
OBrienGuitars Thanks for taking time to reply. I figured there were many variables in the equation. Thanks
@stevethordarson5198
@stevethordarson5198 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thank you.
@anonymouschicken952
@anonymouschicken952 2 жыл бұрын
Does this method work for both lacquer and polyurethane finishes? I’ve done quite a few of these before on polyurethane but never tried on lacquer. I’ve got a Martin with a crack on my workbench now and just want to confirm that it is the correct method before beginning the repair.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
It does work. However, I prefer to use lacquer on lacquer and Gluboost on urethane and polyester.
@anonymouschicken952
@anonymouschicken952 2 жыл бұрын
@@OBrienGuitars Thanks for the info. You and your channel are a wealth of information my friend.
@zenguitarankh
@zenguitarankh 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Thanks a lot.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you found the video useful.
@truth4usa82
@truth4usa82 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on repairing a small crack on a Taylor electric acoustic guitar and how to fix it?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
I already have several videos addressing crack repair.
@alhorriyya
@alhorriyya 2 жыл бұрын
great job
@normancash-alivelycadaver7479
@normancash-alivelycadaver7479 7 жыл бұрын
Well done. I learned a lot, thanks
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@muratozt
@muratozt 8 жыл бұрын
Hello. My Gibson accoustic with a nitro finish has a remarkable damage due to a cheap guitar stand that melted an area around a cm long on the back neck . There are no luthiers in my city working with nitrocellulose finishes. What would you suggest? For me, levelling the surface is more important than the visual look because you feel the milimeter deep hole during playing and it really annoys.
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 9 жыл бұрын
if CA were not available, would you use hot hide glue for this type of repair?? Im glad you made the distinguish about poly and lacquer finishes using CA for repair and drop fills.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Edad Martin Sure, you could use hide glue. I would use that just for the wood crack. Then you have to repair the finish. CA glue can do both.
@DimitriosBouzouki
@DimitriosBouzouki 7 жыл бұрын
eyyy theres a bouzouki! love your videos!
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@dalonergan
@dalonergan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Robert. When I’ve done this with cracks before I can get to a great smooth finish, but I’ve noticed it seems to darken the spruce top along the crack line. Is there any way to avoid that?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can seal the wood before applying the ca glue and this seems to help.
@MsJoaniePH
@MsJoaniePH 9 жыл бұрын
I have a fairly new natural finish (Maple), Epiphone EJ-200 that got a cut fiber dent in the soundboard. This was caused when a stage hand bumped into the hard case cover and a latch tongue impacted into the lower, rear bout of the guitar while I was putting it back into the case. Would it be a good idea to use the hot iron and damp towel method, to raise the dent prior to patching the finish?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
+MsJoaniePH You can try it but a cut fiber will always be seen. It is not just a recessed dent.
@MsJoaniePH
@MsJoaniePH 9 жыл бұрын
I figured as much. Thanks. At least I can reseal the surface. Now to deal with the stage hand...
@feelingsogood6073
@feelingsogood6073 2 жыл бұрын
Good job
@siglong
@siglong 9 жыл бұрын
This way can make the surface smooth ! Great! you use CA glue to replace missing wood, could you have another method to recover to orginal color of surface also? it will be perfect.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
alfre wong Yes, There are techniques for coloring wood to match the old patina but that wasn't the focus of this video and the client didn't want to do that due to cost.
@jbaker7323
@jbaker7323 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm inspired
@Jackofallthetrades
@Jackofallthetrades 6 жыл бұрын
Since it's been almost 4 years since this video has been released, can you list the proper Maguiars polishes that you use now? Not sure I can find exactly what you have in this video, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks!
@Swanlord05
@Swanlord05 6 жыл бұрын
Good job 👋
@rocketsongster5268
@rocketsongster5268 6 жыл бұрын
The face of my acoustic ovation lifted ,the seamed cracked and lost the peices where do I get the wood binding and what glue is best?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
YOu haven't given me much to go on. I would probably make my own binding and either use PVA glue or CA glue
@aalihte3378
@aalihte3378 6 жыл бұрын
apparently, a ca glue will take care of that common problem lickety split. Rosa string works shows the process really nicely.
@rocketsongster5268
@rocketsongster5268 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Ur reply,didnt know what else I could possibly say , Let a fan hold my guitar for pics and she dropped it! Kaput!LOL! The edge molding came off first then the inner binding,duct tape great for an ER temp solution, found a repair man in the Bronx NYC who has the parts to sell me. Thanks again "The Songster"
@butcher_0392
@butcher_0392 5 жыл бұрын
@@OBrienGuitars Thanks for your videos * the clear coat of my guitar on the top after the process no matter how much super glue applied at the end when I use the razor and sand paper and polished the finish to have the glossy result, I look closely is that restored part and is sunk in front of the rest, not perfectly flat. Is there any way to achieve a repair that is perfectly flat compared to the rest of the finish? That does not remain that piece sunk? But totally flat? Thank you
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
@@butcher_0392 You need to build up that area with the glue and be careful when sanding to use a hard block. If not you will sand a low area into the finish.
@LimitedShed
@LimitedShed 10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.....I have a question, i've got an old Epiphone model 6830 bolt on neck, with the all to common problem of the neck pushing back on the rosette and it raising up, Is there a way to fix this or should I just retire this one to it's case ? I mainly have this for sentimental values, it was my Dads.........Thanks any advise will be helpful.......Thanks
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 10 жыл бұрын
There is a way to fix it but I probably would have a professional luthier that deals with kind of stuff on a daily basis take a look under the hood to see if it is salvageable.
@larmdu12
@larmdu12 8 жыл бұрын
Hi sorry for my english, I'm french. I would like to know when you have sand down the wood, what do you use to varnish (japan) the wood where you sand down. To have the same color and aspect of the rest of the guitar ? is that only the clear plastic polish and cleaner ?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
+Aure L You will need to remove the existing finish and apply a new one. This is sometimes easier said than done. Sometimes doing nothing is best.
@joshuatiu8736
@joshuatiu8736 9 жыл бұрын
my guitar has a crack on the neck it not that big but it big enough to feel it it's really bothering me can i use this method to like patch to the point where i cant feel it ?
@100amps
@100amps 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to repair a dirty-ish, discolored crack (like this one) to a more invisible state? Diligently tweaking the colors, etc. If so, I'd love to see you do a video on that one day. Keep it in mind. And thanks for all the vids regardless, they are priceless.
@scottschmitz6061
@scottschmitz6061 3 жыл бұрын
I have fissure cracracks on my neck , can you help me with tips on how to repair
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
cracks in the finish, wood or both?
@scottschmitz6061
@scottschmitz6061 3 жыл бұрын
@@OBrienGuitars just in the clear
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottschmitz6061 some folks drop fill with lacquer, others use CA glue.
@stcrueman
@stcrueman 9 жыл бұрын
Great Tip Robert Thanks, Can you help me? i tried to install the strap button on mi daughter brand new acoustic guitar but i installed it in the side of the guitar close to the neck so when she tried it for the first time the wood gave up and now i have a hole on the guitar the size of the strap button, that was a few weeks ago and i lost the little piece of wood that came off i was wondering if you can recommend a way to fill this hole and repair the black finish. hope you can help me. thanks in advance. Regards Charly A. Juarez Mexico.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Charly A Hernandez If it is a black finish the repair is easy. Just use a patch and then paint it black again. It will look like new.
@stcrueman
@stcrueman 9 жыл бұрын
thanks I appreciate it. :)
@werewolfbarmitzvah6687
@werewolfbarmitzvah6687 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Why do you use the polish before the cleaner?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Drasin either way will work.
@aalihte3378
@aalihte3378 6 жыл бұрын
great tip. love the razor blade trick :) ..why would anyone not want to refinish their guitar? it seems re-varnishing would be the best fix..am I wrong? I've got a few damaged string instruments coming my way and I really wanted to preserve their wethered look so this is PERFECT for that. really appreciative.
@JohnWilsonPA
@JohnWilsonPA 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the finish on the back & sides of the guitar appears to be delaminating. I have a customer's guitar (a Tacoma DM18) doing the same thing. The top is okay, but the back & sides are peeling like a bad sunburn.
@johnhicks7057
@johnhicks7057 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Robert. I just came across your channel watching this seven year old video and now I have subscribed just to see how things are done by a professional luthier. I am not one but just a guitar nerd. I do have a personal question about my Martin 1971 D35. I am the original owner and it’s in remarkable shape and I want to keep it that way. Are there any particular cleaners and polishers that she would recommend. I have used Martin’s cleaner and polishing, Gibson polish and even car polish but I want to make sure that I’m not doing the wrong thing. Thank you very much
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying my channel. Use a non abrasive cleaner/polish with no silicone or wax. The products you mentioned are fine.
@kedocom
@kedocom 6 жыл бұрын
have you ever used furniture powders to replace color for finish repairs?
@btm240
@btm240 8 жыл бұрын
I have a crack in just the clear top coat on a headstock. should I use the thin or medium viscosity CA? Thanks in advance.
@Carlaxe
@Carlaxe 7 жыл бұрын
btm240 same issue here
@klaytrix7943
@klaytrix7943 Жыл бұрын
How do you know if it is a lacquer finish or another kind of finish?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars Жыл бұрын
if lacquer thinner will dissolve it, then it is lacquer.
@klaytrix7943
@klaytrix7943 Жыл бұрын
@@OBrienGuitars does CA glue work with all finishes?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars Жыл бұрын
@@klaytrix7943 I get the best result with CA glue on urethanes and polyesters and lacquer on lacquer.
@allanpennington
@allanpennington 8 жыл бұрын
Cool, would you use the same technique for minor dents in a top?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
yes, CA glue can be used for dents in tops. I would only recommend this if you know how to do it.
@jeffreyschmoldt7798
@jeffreyschmoldt7798 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff in Michigan liked as well
@payambehtash7124
@payambehtash7124 9 жыл бұрын
you're doing it so cool that it seems everybody can do it! thanks for sharing this. i have Ramirez(CG) sadly i found a crack just along side the neck on the finishing. it's not a deep crack i guess it doesn't reach into the wood part. how can i repair it? is it ok if i fallow this method of yours without damaging the finishing?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Payam Behtash A pitcure would make it easier for me to offer advice.
@beanoalbum1966
@beanoalbum1966 8 жыл бұрын
I am an amateur but I have a couple of inexpensive guitars that need dents/dinks taking out ofthem.I would like to attempt to do this myself and will be studying video's like yours as I go along: I have one question-how do you know when to move from one grit of paper to another?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
+beanoalbum1966 Be careful that you do not make the defect worse. This is easy to do so proceed with caution. You move to the next paper to remove the marks from the previous grit paper.
@grantcamp8045
@grantcamp8045 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've got a guitar with a crack in the same location. I can't fit a cleat under the crack due to the close proximity of the kerfing. Is it acceptable just to use the kerfing as a "cleat"?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
+Grant Camp Yes, if the crack is over the kerfing then you already have a cleat.
@grantcamp8045
@grantcamp8045 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome...thank you!
@jamesstevenlimbaga2932
@jamesstevenlimbaga2932 8 жыл бұрын
Hi sir! I would like to ask if it is just okay to use spay paint on changing the color of the guitar?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
many so called spray paints are lacquer based and will work well on guitars. If you want to spray over an existing already finished guitar you may have adhesion issues so precautions should be taken.
@h7oslo
@h7oslo 8 жыл бұрын
This is a good description. Tnx ! rc
@brucelevine6517
@brucelevine6517 10 жыл бұрын
DEAR Robert 2 things you know the part of that top that was brownish sort of oxydizwd or roted dont you want to try to scrape down the the whiter wood is it ok to leave it that way ? now i tryed some thing that worked great for me! i took# 1500 sand paper and rubbed a small amount of compound on it then whith circular motions rubbed it till it burnished to a high gloss on shellac took elbow grease and time but it worked like a charm could see my reflection and ialso want to ask lets say you tune the b string to pitch and you play D on the third fret and its a little off can that be fixed? how and why dose that happen even on new guitars?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 10 жыл бұрын
Bruce, there are always several ways to do things. The best course of action is one that you and your client agree on. This client didn't want to spend much for the repair. Once the structural issue was addressed the cosmetic issue wasn't much concern for him. So, I took the approach I did in the video. It was the least invasive and least expensive.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 10 жыл бұрын
What you are experiencing on the 3rd fret of the B string is due to compensation, or should I say the lack of it. The builder or factory that made your guitar probably didn't add compensation to the overall scale length and this could be why your guitar plays out of tune. If this is the case it gets worse the higher up the fretboard you go. As someone famous once said, "there's no money above the 5th fret anyway." haha
@TheDutchDemon010
@TheDutchDemon010 4 жыл бұрын
I just dropped my 12 string guitar and i have the same crack on the lower body like that guitar My question wich other glue can you use for it i live in the netherlands and have other sorts of glue here.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
To repair the wood you can use hide glue, fish glue or yellow glue. The advantage of the CA glue is that you can use it to repair the crack in the wood and the finish.
@coolcalm582
@coolcalm582 4 жыл бұрын
Does cracks affects sound of guitars and does it gets worst with time?
@davidsims1329
@davidsims1329 8 жыл бұрын
Robert Have you ever used a product called "fill and Finish" for guitars finish repairs?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, works well.
@leiblevine2163
@leiblevine2163 9 жыл бұрын
Parts of the crack at black can you talk about why wood tuns black
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Most types of glue will be darker when repairing a crack. The exceptions are fish and hide glue. They are less noticeable if done right.The moral of the story here is to take care of your instrument so it doesn't get cracks that need to be repaired.
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love it
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow 8 жыл бұрын
By the way, I gotta ask some tips for repairing a chip off the finish of the backside of my guitar. The finish kinda flicked off when it slid down a concrete floor. It's about a size of a fingernail and I can see the raw wood in it. I could have glued the chipped off piece back in to seal it but I couldn't find it. Is there any filling technique that I could do to fix it?
@jeszone
@jeszone 8 жыл бұрын
same thing here. Pls somebody reply.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
I need more info. Clearcoat or color coat? Acoustic or solid body?
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow
@Y0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ow 8 жыл бұрын
+OBrienGuitars Thanks for taking the time to reply Brien. It's a Yamaha F310, I think the finish is a laminated top and back acoustic. The part that's chipped off is as big as a fingernail and as thick as a credit card. I could see the raw wood underneath it. You could picture it as a huge puzzle with one missing piece. If only I could find it, I could just glue it back. But it's been lost for over 3 weeks now. I guess it's totally gone. Any tips?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
Can you send me a pic?
@이민아분석위원
@이민아분석위원 4 жыл бұрын
Can I use CA glue to bind my guitar? it got some damage at the bottom part.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Many folks do use CA glue to bind their guitars and I have a video on that subject.
@이민아분석위원
@이민아분석위원 4 жыл бұрын
OBrienGuitars can you share me the links please 🙏🏻
@esnrrrrrrr1907
@esnrrrrrrr1907 3 жыл бұрын
What type of glue did you use?
@maureenbachmann1858
@maureenbachmann1858 4 жыл бұрын
What brand and type is the medium viscosity glue?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
It is from Satellite City and I get it from LMI. www.lmii.com/search?controller=search&s=ca+glue
@christopherbrougham
@christopherbrougham 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful, you are really good at what you and generous with your knowledge. And great skill. I heard someone here mention doing the same repair with PVA glue. CA is not anything common here in New Zealand. I use a lot of what's called Selley's Aquadhere - it's a polyaliphatic cross linking PVA. Would that work if I followed your demo and just apply it water-diluted first, followed by thicker applications? Thanks.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
I would probably just use a hide glue or fish glue if I didn't have access to CA glue. Thanks for watching my videos. Glad you are finding them useful.
@AndrewHincksMusic
@AndrewHincksMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Australian here - CA glue is just plain old super glue.
@DynamicRockers
@DynamicRockers 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! that was really helpful
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you found the video useful.
@DynamicRockers
@DynamicRockers 6 жыл бұрын
I tried this method on a an old 1977 Kiso Suzuki guitar (Martin D35 clone) with a PU finish, and the CA glue let some dark spots on the drop fill zone, like if it burnt the lacquer. Did you ever experienced that issue/reaction? Thanks for the answer Robert.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
If the glue gets into the end grain it can become dark. In this case try sealing the are with shellac first.
@marcblum5348
@marcblum5348 7 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful. Happy Building!
@indaychen2381
@indaychen2381 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@chrisgrant5023
@chrisgrant5023 6 жыл бұрын
Can you use CA glue on an Electric guitar with a maple top that has a nitro lacquer finish
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
If you do it properly, yes.
@probablyplayingguitar
@probablyplayingguitar 11 ай бұрын
Wet sand all the things. Seriously don't matter what it is, if its got a gloss finish wet sand and cutting compound/buff works every time.
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 3 ай бұрын
a pipette? what the hell is that? where do I get one?
@laneimages
@laneimages 3 жыл бұрын
My assumption is if the finish was a lacquer finish you would only use lacquer ?
@ajpascua5128
@ajpascua5128 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert ! I have a small circular chip on my Tanglewood TFA guitar . It's top is a cedar , can you give me an advice on how to fix it ? 😭 Thanks 🙂
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
You might try the glu boost products.
@ajpascua5128
@ajpascua5128 7 жыл бұрын
OBrienGuitars how about on natural satin finish ?
@ajpascua5128
@ajpascua5128 7 жыл бұрын
How about on natural satin finish ?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
you would have to make the repair satin as well.
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 9 жыл бұрын
does UV affect Ca repairs at all over time ? will it fade differently ?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Edad Martin I have used CA glue in UV finishes and not noticed any difference.
@kostasvatamidis6321
@kostasvatamidis6321 5 жыл бұрын
is that a bouzouki in the backround?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
yes.
@joensab
@joensab 7 жыл бұрын
I am curious without any credentials to promote my suggestion. Being that there was a whitening effect due to the disruption of the original finish lifting from the wood (flaking), wouldn't it have been effective to supply a vibration to the instrument after the application of the various 'glues', especially the lightest viscosity, in order for the liquid to migrate under and into the furthest recesses possible? Connectedly, in as much as the CA glue is capable of being the final 'finish' in the repaired area, might it not have been a workable idea to start the repair process by eliminating the currently flaking edge by use of wet sanding or whatever degree of abrasion or 'cutting' as you see fit, and then proceed with the repair? By doing that I was thinking it would eliminate any chance of a whitened seam where glue did not get fully under the original finish, as well as making for a flatter even surface as it will not consist of the original along with a CA level atop. Just ideas, and again, from a wholly unqualified source.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
If you use a thin viscosity glue it will wick into all places, even those you do not want it to go if you use too much.
@joensab
@joensab 7 жыл бұрын
Is it better to keep the flaking edge of the damaged area or remove it... before application of the CA ?
@newinspiration2108
@newinspiration2108 9 жыл бұрын
dear Robert, thanks for all of your hard work and sharing I have a question - Can shellac finish be applied onto (or over, whichever makes sense) CA glue?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 9 жыл бұрын
Thanh Huynh Thank you for watching my videos. I am glad you are finding them useful. Yes, shellac can be applied over or under CA glue. I usually do a shellac seal coat and then apply CA glue to the area I am trying to repair. Once level you can applly more shellac over that. Hope this helps.
@d-a-dd-a-d5672
@d-a-dd-a-d5672 7 жыл бұрын
what about the bouzouki in the back side?
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
Greek bouzouki that came in for repair.
@TakizawaMassami
@TakizawaMassami 8 жыл бұрын
Robert, greetings from Brazil! I´ve seen some of your vids and wanted to ask if u know where to buy these pipets here in Brazil, i found a bunch online but they dont have the narrow long tips. Thank very much for these awesome lessons! Im sure the 2nd Guitar show here will be amazing!
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 8 жыл бұрын
Check with Miguel Cardone of Musictools. If he doesn't have them he will know where to get them.
@richardlevy7674
@richardlevy7674 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the pipettes
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
I get them from LMI - www.lmii.com
@richardlevy7674
@richardlevy7674 4 жыл бұрын
@@OBrienGuitars Thanks
@jeffreymuckey2205
@jeffreymuckey2205 6 жыл бұрын
Can I ask about the mando looking guitar on in your room on the wall behind you during the introduction, That for playing like a piccolo guitar or what is that? As always love the videos Mr OBrien.
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
That is a Greek bouzouki that came into the shop for some repair work.
@domhill7297
@domhill7297 7 жыл бұрын
This video has saved me haha, What grades of micro-mesh were you using?
@GarryWan666
@GarryWan666 5 жыл бұрын
6:32 Rip headphone users...
@antoniomattana6706
@antoniomattana6706 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@FretFriendGWaL
@FretFriendGWaL 9 жыл бұрын
Good stuff = subscribed :)
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 7 жыл бұрын
Is CA glue the same as crazy glue
@OBrienGuitars
@OBrienGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
They are both cyanoacrylate glues but I believe crazy glue only comes in one viscosity.
@lucasholt3482
@lucasholt3482 7 жыл бұрын
steve dental I am under the impression that Krazy glue is a polyisocyanate and not a cyanoacrylate. same shit different pile I believe but I could easily be wrong.
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