Obscure Amiga Games - Part 8

Can you believe that it's the 8th video in the series already? That's 80 obscure games to date! It's been going better than I thought. And there's a lot of games we've discovered along the way. It's not gonna be a surprise, but that's not the end, and there's more episodes to come. So, if you're into odd and unknown games, you know where to come.
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0:00 Intro to Obscure Amiga Games You've Never Heard Of Part 8
0:23 Wings of Death
1:52 Hillsea Lido
3:28 Mike the Magic Dragon
5:07 Base Jumpers
6:27 Brataccas
8:17 Bill's Tomato Game
9:54 4D Sports Boxing
10:43 Entity
12:32 Warlock's Quest
14:14 Amnios
16:00 Outro
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[@koresoteira447]

Base Jumpers was on one of the Amiga games mag demo disks back in the day.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Cool game to add to the cover disk.

[@AncientElectronics]

Wings of Death gives off serious Blazing Laser on the TurboGraphx 16 vibes. The sounds and the way things move, like the orbs, feel very much like that game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

You know, you're kinda right...

[@Pikaroth]

Thankfully I’m not one of those that pretends to have played all of these games, but 4D Boxing brings back so many memories! The amount of hours my friends and I spent with that are uncountable. Great list!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh, I'm not saying that they pretend. People come from different backgrounds. But when you see "Obscure games" video, you kinda want them to be just that. And if they played so many games, most of us never even knew of, it's tough for them to find a video they'd enjoy.

[@SWW_Productions]

I love the graphics of Amiga games. Hillsea Lido looks cool, and interesting. Never heard of it before but it looks well put together!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

While most games displayed only 32, the 4096 colour palette allowed for a lot of freedom on how to mix them, and they (pallets) could be changed even mid frame, so in the right hands, Amiga games could display many more or at the very least look really impressive. It the classic system I have the most melancholy for.

[@thegamedesignlexicon]

Mike the Magic Dragon? Is that what that "Magic Mike" movie was about? Wonder who Matthew McConaughey plays...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Alright alright alright...

[@nicholsliwilson]

They used my face on the box for Wings of Death?! How dare! We had a Lido or 2 here in Nottingham back in the 80’s. Imagine an outdoor swimming pool here in the UK with our weather, they were… “optimistic” let’s go with that. Also I’ve never in my life fantasised about owning one. What an odd concept for a game? 😄 Base Jumpers & Warlock’s Quest are new to me but look fun? Also where’s Bill’s Tomato Game been all my life? Definitely checking that one out. 4D Sports Boxing is so impressive for the Amiga, even if it runs a bit slow for my liking. The internet has changed our lives, it’s amazing that not only can you tell everyone about games they may have missed on the Amiga but we can go and download or buy a physical copy (if you can find it) immediately. Really enjoying these videos as I get to hear about games I didn’t get for birthdays/Christmas back in the day. Grate video, thanks.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

That face is... Well... It looks as if it was taken mid-$hit, and it's one of those after vindaloo with extra spices $hits. xD You can see the struggle. LOL ;) I think they were aiming with Hillsea Lido for something akin to San Francisco Pier or however it's called. You know, where there's beach underneath and a big pier filled with small shops of carious kinds. But what do I know? I've neither been to SF, nor to real British Lido. ;) With Base Jumpers I was kinda unsure, cause while I knew it very well, I hardly ever heard people talking about it. So wasn't sure if it was the right pick. Looks like it was. :) Bill's Tomato Game is fun but Incredible Machine it is not. That one was on another level. On the other hand BTG has a short animated intro which is as odd as the game itself is. 4D Sports Boxing I actually played quite a lot when I discovered it back in the day. I like games with progression and when I can feel that I've actually got better and am climbing the "ladder". Probably why I got so into MMORPGs in early 2000's. xD Thanks and yeah! I too think that Internet, along wheel, fire, penicillin, printing press and steam engine and transistor is the biggest of human's inventions ever! In fact, I don't watch TV at all, everything I do, all the entertainment I get, comes from the Internet one way or another.

[@Sinisteve]

I’ve been after wings of death for ages, definitely a game you don’t see often

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, so it's in the right video. ;)

[@Eli-kt3td]

I really enjoyed 4D boxing as a kid, had the dos port. I liked making my own boxers to have the shortest skinniest boxer fight the tallest giant possible. good times.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, and with the right skill on the player's side wins with such boxer were actually possible too.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Me too but I never played on Amiga (at friend's home) ....... think it needs a slighlty faster cpu (than standard 68000) to really shine

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@federicocatelli8785 It might, cause it actually ran better on PC. xD

[@kyleolson8977]

My boxers were taller and shorter than yours - I wrote a utility to modify the boxer files to min and max the size. Notably, I had flat boxers. I tried to distribute it in the BBS days but I doubt anyone got it. This was important because it taught me how little-endian numbers work in computers as a teenager. I didn't understand how x86 computers stored numbers. In the pre-home-internet days we could just look stuff up. I still couldn't have told you why they did it this way and arguably I didn't know the whole history until a couple years ago.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@kyleolson8977 It sure were interesting times. So, what's the whole story then?

[@desiv1170]

OK, so I knew of 4 of these... And played one (Amnios; well, I might have played Bill's Tomato Game now that I think about it... But not recently.). 🙂 Great vid! Really great to see these games. Thanx!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

No no no, thank you! :)

[@ooklathemok]

It is great to find new old games especially if you can find them to play

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep :) There are still tons of games I've never heard of and with each video I usually learn about one too. :)

[@ruskerdax5547]

Wow, I had the DOS version of 4D Boxing. I think I got it on a sketchy compilation disk with a bunch of other games, which included stuff like Scorched Earth and Operation Bodycount. I haven't thought about it in years. Great video! I'm enjoying these.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I'm glad you liked it! And if that compilation had Scorched Earth on it, then it was a good one! :) Even if its legality was questionable.

[@Vebinz]

It seems to play faster on DOS than the Amiga.

[@martinsvendsen1665]

The Tomato game is brilliant.. :) Spent lots of time on that one.. Belive I have it my Amiga mini.. Hmmm.. Gonna try some rounds and see if I still got the skillz after 30 years :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It's like riding a bike, I'd say, if not for... Benefactor. Which I thought I'd be able to plough through with ease, and I was surprised how difficult it felt after so many years. xD

[@gjermundification]

The games I played was Lucasfilm Games( all platforms, ) Tetris( all platforms, ) PP Hammer( C64, ) Oil's Well( C64, ) Fort Apocalypse( C64, ) Super Frog( Amiga, ) Rock N Roll( Amiga, ) Gauntlet( all platforms ) Apart from those most are obscure to me.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

WOW! Means that there's a lot that you can discover! :)

[@gjermundification]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Well I saw more games, yet most of them did not stick. Crossfire was interesting, strange game, yet almost rock music.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@gjermundification Oh, that's OK too. Cause you can rediscover some of them. :)

[@gjermundification]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yes! Amazing.

[@AceTheBraveIT]

Hello! A couple of entries for a future video: Starush, Lupo Alberto, Pegasus

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks a bunch! I've added them to my list of future titles. :)

[@federicocatelli8785]

Lupo Alberto one of the 1st amiga games I played at friend's home...very basic platformer

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@federicocatelli8785 Just saw a video of it and I gotta say that it looks interesting. I've never heard of it before, let alone seen it. It may be simple but I kinda like the cleanliness of the design, of sprites and background. Definitely a game for the obscure video!

[@federicocatelli8785]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Lupo Alberto was a popular comic in Italy back then...I never liked so I'm somewhat biased toward this videogame

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@federicocatelli8785 I haven't done my research yet, so even if it's a bad one, it deserves its five minutes. I mean I even have an entire video for Pro Soccer 2190, which is the worst game in existence. xD

[@Willdershin]

Oh I got tagged.Thank you very much :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

No, no, no... Thank you very much for creating your amazing videos! :) Without them, this one would not be possible. :)

[@Harp00nX]

People think Bill's Tomato Game is obscure?! I thought it was well known as one of the best Amiga games from 1992, I even own the boxed original (minus the sachet of tomato sauce it came with lol). It's a great game though I think it's better than Lemmings.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I actually never saw it back in the day. Perhaps it varies country to country to country. :) Also, that ketchup sachet may have been worth a lot today. ;)

[@williamwright9079]

Cool man! I really tried to get into Bratticus but the controls are not good. Entity was and amazing looking game(at least in the stills and intro) but urgh, boring! Bills tomato game was great! Cheers Man!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I remember seeing Entity in the gaming mag back then and think that the graphics were amazing too. I wonder why? ;) But yeah, it couldn't hold a candle to Flashback. It was not only in the same league but it didn't even play the same sport. But the platform previewing mechanic was really good.

[@TeaAndTankControls]

But wait, what game is that at the beginning with the hooded figure on the throne and the weird goblin to the side?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Warlock's Quest. One of the games in the video. :)

[@TeaAndTankControls]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thanks! I thought so, but wasn't sure.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@TeaAndTankControls My pleasure! :)

[@stefanimal5257]

WARLOCK'S QUEST!!!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Now, that's clearly a fan if I ever saw one. Any special memories of the game? Or do you just like it overall?

[@stefanimal5257]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I remember discovering it on a random disk when i was a kid. It's not the best game ever of course, but it is charming! I always liked how each screen has unique graphics and enemies. And everything is so small and cute. And each pickup is unique too I think? Overall just a strange and charming atmosphere. Originally a C64 game I think (which makes sense).

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@stefanimal5257 Yep, it released on both and it actually looked pretty decent on C64 too.

[@MaxSpender]

@@stefanimal5257 Another obscure game with some similarities to this is Carver. Not a great game, but oddly compelling to see how far you can get each time.

[@stefanimal5257]

@@MaxSpender just looked it up - I’d never heard of it! Similarities for sure. Small graphics, different enemies and weapons. It’s kind of cute!

[@darkfalzx]

I remember being mildly impressed by Entity's graphics, but it plays like an utter pile of dogshit. Commits every game design sin on the books. It's sort of like another, similarly themed game - Vixen.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh, I remember Vixen! I mean I didn't but you reminded me of it... Oh man...

[@ScoopexUs]

I'm having a hard time coming to grips with how you like the games you mention. I think it's partly talking the script too fast over the footage and not playing the game yourself, and partly because of deliberate misdirection. Sometimes you talk broadly about how others received it, sometimes 90% is about the story on the back of the box or even worse, the novella inside, and sometimes you reduce it to gameplay (which is actually somewhat helpful). You are keen to share speculations on why it was unpopular (not obscure), but you don't mention magazine reviews all. What this says to me is that you didn't look up magazine reviews, which would have crossed off quite a few games as not obscure, but my main problem is finding out how you like the games you describe. I wouldn't say review, because if you played them, why do you borrow footage? It's much more helpful to determine if a game is for you if you see the person saying it's good or bad playing it. So, I'm pretty sure that's not your goal.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Well, I don't have a set format, and recently even less so. So sometimes it's more about the gameplay, sometimes about how I played it first or something from my past that the memory of a game brings back. Honestly this whole channel is based on a special issue of a magazine I read as a teen. It had something like 200 best games in it, I don't remember exactly, and each had 3-4 pictures and a paragraph of two about them. Sometimes it was detailed, often less so, and I enjoyed it a lot. And it kinda started off like that but covering 10 years of games on different platforms. In a way it's still ongoing, currently for Early Windows and C64. And then I started obscure series. For Amiga and DOS. And while we may not agree on how good or bad games are, or if they were or weren't obscure, despite that it may be different in different regions (I'm Polish) it's based on my experiences and research online. I've never hidden it. Most games I played myself in the past, more or less, some I liked, some I didn't but I don't play as much myself, as I neither have as much time to do so, not the skills anymore. And some titles like Fury of the Furries, that I love to bits, and I used to be able to complete in one or two sittings, I can barely get to the forest stages today. So yeah... I'm sorry you don't like my content, but I'm not going to try to convince you that it's good and that you should. We're not all the same, and we don't have to agree on everything. As a general rule. :)

[@ScoopexUs]

​@@OldAndNewVideoGames We can all disagree and that's fine. We can all talk and say anything. If I didn't have to play 200 games I could cut and paste footage and talk over it or not talk over it. I wouldn't talk about how a game is, unless I played it myself and gave it a good chance. And I expect the same from videos that talk about how games are. What's the point of watching videos about games where someone talks about each game and hasn't really played them or not at all? I of course comment because I found your channel, and it seems it's about posting videos for the sake of videos, and this makes it hard because if you have some great videos in there it's harder to find now.