Ocarina of Time Review

[@Arjanator]

The Gerudo problem is easily solved. If you ask one of the Sheikah Stones, it'll tell you that Gerudos come to Hyrule Castle Town to look for boyfriends. That's how the Gerudo reproduce. Every 100 years, a male is born and that male is made king by default.

[@Arjanator]

Also, to beat Ganondorf without magic at the end, just drop down the gap between you and Ganondorf, break some pots, get more magic and climb back up.

[@-notkev-733]

How are any full blooded Gerudo ever born if they're always forced to reproduce with different races

[@superboy9431]

@@-notkev-733 Just think of it like this. The gerudo tribes genes are all dominant(aka their offspring is basically 100% gerudo) but they almost always end up giving birth to a female, but once every 100 years the gerudo give birth to a male gerudo.

[@riahlexington]

Thank god

[@randyrandalman8234]

So either Ganondorf is not a pure Geradu but a mix of various races - or he's banging his granddaughter. Still makes no sense

[@PunctualDork]

"Look at childhood Link's nose. Reasonable. Now look at this thing. *awkward pause* Unreasonable." Hilarious. Nearly choked on my coffee.

[@jimreid5]

Date Night Gaming coffee gives you bad breath.

[@AntiRiku]

jimreid5 School teaches you to start sentences with capital letters.

[@jimreid5]

***** Obama is George w bush on steroids.

[@jerec1267]

Date Night Gaming Best part of mats videos? Dry humor

[@ForeverMasterless]

Date Night Gaming That got me pretty bad as well, lol.

[@DJDadJoke]

I love your accent, Matthew. It leads to such great unintentional puns. 3:00 "This dungeon, while exceptionally easy for anyone who has played a Zelda game before, provides an excellent introduction to Zelda in a 'TREE-dimensional' environment."

[@_Singularity_]

Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen It's Irish right?

[@nobodyspecial1553]

Singularity Yes, yes it is.

[@tael64]

+Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen It fits really well with the Wind Waker review as well.

[@Greener221]

CAAAAAARRRRRLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS!!!!

[@SonofTiamat]

+Joseph Strahm Northern Irish or Southern, or is there not much of a difference?

[@MNGoldenEagle]

Some of the unanswered questions you had in the game are actually answered, if you know where to look. Specifically, the Sheikah stones will tell you that the Gerudo tribe will get busy with the Hylians whenever they want kids, which is how they can go on even without a living male Gerudo (which means being a Gerudo is apparently made up of dominant gene traits?). They also explain that the owl is an incarnation/reincarnation (differs depending on the game version, I think incarnation was the correct version) of a sage, suggesting a link to Rauru or perhaps a pre-OoT sage. Also, there were pots filled with magic refills at the bottom of the Ganondorf chamber. It's easy to miss, but the idea probably was that most people who would struggle with that fight would end up getting knocked down there and would discover them. Still, you're right, it would've been nice if they had made magic a little more accessible for that fight.

[@rmsgrey]

+Jared Graham Male ejaculate contains roughly equal numbers of male and female sperm, but the two have subtle differences since the male sperm are half a chromosome lighter, so it's feasible for the female reproductive system to distinguish and discriminate between them. Or Gerudo women could naturally abort male fetuses after conception. Or there could be magic at work.

[@ArfJason]

iirc the owl kaepora gaebora is supposed to be a manifestation of rauru. also i know its retconny, but i think in skyward sword theres someone who looks and acts like rauru and also looks like an owl

[@JeY_k]

Came here to comment about the ganon fight + magic, glad to see this was already posted

[@MrJemoeder1990]

Was just about to comment this.

[@menacetosociety6825]

Damn i'd love to be a hylian

[@PieRowManiac]

"Why is [Ganondorf] so unhappy if he's the only man, a king, in a tribe of woman. You know, you'd think he'd kind of busy... doing things... with the rest of the tribe..." (shows various shots of objects entering holes) Subtle.

[@brianboley870]

nerd

[@deedlessdeity218]

It's enough work and trouble to have one relationship going healthily. Imagine having a whole harem of needy dominating women to tend to and keep happy...

[@adachy]

@@deedlessdeity218 haram ganon

[@XFS540]

I watched this once before, and I just noticed this sequence just now! Lol

[@AppleGreenmusic]

That nose bit always gets me.

[@arsenalagent6675]

He complains about how much longer his nose gets, but what did he expect? He has been 'lying' for seven years! [Jake the Dog laugh]

[@-eea32]

Oonreasonable

[@thewingedserpent5823]

He might have forgotten about igor

[@basedchimera5859]

*12:38

[@DelicateCherryBlossom]

3:00 "tree-dimensional". You don't actually have an accent. It was just an absurdly long setup for that one joke. It was worth it.

[@archentity]

Nah, he does have an accent, check out the rest of his videos. Like in his metal gear solid reviews where he says ''FucksDie virus'' instead of ''FoxDie virus''.

[@MarkManuel15]

***** Actually, everybody has an accent except the British.

[@archentity]

Mark Manuel lol, true

[@sentinel225]

Marcos Manuel actually, everyone has an accent. Including the British. I wonder if you're still alive after 2 years

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

"...Hyrule was created by the tree goddesses" was funnier.

[@franjaff6919]

Somebody has probably already mentioned this, but at the bottom of the floor in the Ganon fight there are magic pots.

[@crono3015]

I think because he was low on health, he couldn'y jump down. And he can'y climb down, because Ganon will attack.

[@franjaff6919]

Crono The point still remains, there is a way to regain magic during that fight.

[@crono3015]

"because he was low on health, he couldn't jump down. And he can't climb down, because Ganon will attack."

[@franjaff6919]

Crono The complaint in the review was that there was no way whatsoever to regain magic.

[@crono3015]

Yeah. Because if he tried to regain some during that battle, with such low health, he would've died.

[@renoldmueller1420]

The footage synced to you talking about Ganon getting laid was priceless.

[@hurricane1nox]

lol that shit made me sub^^

[@RobH73]

I completely missed this. Went back again and laughed my ass off!

[@joncongo3730]

You're actually supposed to equip the iron boots when fighting dark link in the water temple. This slows you AND him down, letting you slug it out without needing anything more than your master sword and shield. Not only does this remove his ability to backflip and dodge but it prevents him from doing his counter attack where he stands on your sword.

[@sanderssmokes]

You sir have ruined my childhood

[@Astro_Crunch]

I know this is like 3 years old, but I'm really curious about where you learned this from. Did you figure it out yourself, or did you read about it/hear it from someone?

[@LieutenantP1ckle]

WHAT

[@dael1438]

Is this real

[@charlzthedrummer]

Literally everybody is shocked you can do this that even three years later people still care

[@Katie-hj5eb]

32:40 A gossip stone in front of the temple of time says, ""They say that Gerudos sometimes come to Hyrule castle town to look for boyfriends."

[@rogerklotz7737]

Katie just like you

[@Flome810]

@@rogerklotz7737 😂

[@cannonfodder4000]

8:44 "Even these days voices in a Zelda game would probably ruin the experience" ... And then Breath of the Wild was announced!

[@apcreed]

WELL EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME PRINCESS!

[@Mayeur000Donz]

It could still turn out good. So far, I like the voices of the Eng Dub. The only one I'm unsure of is Impa, and that's because it sounds like a 20-something-yr-old trying to sound like an old woman.

[@PacdemonStudios1]

Sounds like a bad anime dub to me. That, and its probably going to get Treehouse'd

[@cannonfodder4000]

What is Treehoused?

[@PacdemonStudios1]

Nintendo Treehouse is notorious for their botched translations, often inserting unfunny memes and making major changes to dialog and characterization.

[@SonofTiamat]

So does anyone else think Matthew's critique of OoT is far better than Arin's cancerous Sequelitis videos?

[@SonofTiamat]

wilson You made a typo. You spelled Arin as Matthew and Matthew as Arin.

[@globox123456789]

tiakpark Didn't Ego just whine about Skyward Sword in his vid?

[@SonofTiamat]

globox123456789 It was more than that. He acted as though the first Zelda on the NES was the pinnacle of the series and that the franchise got subsequently worse. I don't mind if he likes the first on the NES the most, but it seems a bit disingenuous to go over all the faults of the later ones without addressing even one fault in the original. A lot of his complaints for OoT were also pretty specious. Don't get me wrong, I don't think OoT is BEST GAEM EVAR, I also think it's kinda overrated, but even I was rolling my eyes at his "complaints." And overall, he just wasn't very funny. He would start off sounding soft-spoken and articulate and then would quickly shift gears into full on nineties kid with attitude ADHD mode. His jokes were forced, loud and obnoxious, and overall it just wasn't pleasant to watch.

[@DidYouSeeAWeiner]

tiakpark "His jokes were forced, loud and obnoxious, and overall it just wasn't pleasant to watch." Pretty much everything egorapter has done in a nutshell. GameGrumps, Starbomb, half of his animations...

[@SonofTiamat]

Foxy Lady Yeah, that's about how I feel. I always thought GameGrumps was a rip off of TwoBestFriendsPlay anyway. Thank god JonTron's back to doing his own thing. He's so much funnier.

[@Koops2245]

I really applaud your honest impression of the Shadow Link mini-boss fight.

[@crono3015]

I think in the 3DS version, they fixed it. As I was able to beat SL without the fire.

[@thegrayghost1786]

Crono I didn't even know you could beat him with magic as I only used the sword.

[@rmsgrey]

Or the Biggoron Sword. I could be misremembering, but I think the key to beating him is even simpler - just don't lock on. That way his counters aren't timed correctly.

[@chrishoskavich2435]

rmsgrey You're right -- with the Biggoron Sword and no z-targeting, Shadow Link is no problem.

[@mistertagomago7974]

They in no way indicate you should not Z target and not doing so gies against what youve been taught.

[@shoogles_]

Another thing about the ReDeads I seemed to notice: if you walk up to one, slowly, it won't notice you, and it won't scream. It'll just stand there in its default position.

[@Acecard-jl2py]

+ShayMay That's because the ReDeads have no eyes. They are just blank hollowed out eyes.

[@Acecard-jl2py]

In Castle Town the ReDeads can't stun lock you. I believe it's because of the camera. When a ReDead stun locks you the camera follows the ReDead. Since Castle Town is a set camera following Link where ever he goes within the center, it was too complicated for the stun lock to happen. So the developers removed the Stun Lock ability to make sure the game doesn't glitch out.

[@SaikyoNoFyuujon]

It is possible to have a sword fight with Dark Link if you don't lock on to him. I've done it several times in my plathroughs of Ocarina of Time.

[@CasshernSinz1613]

that was the reason for Dark Link, Despite being a mini-boss he was supposed to shift your view of fighting enemies. Up until that point most enemies (except Poes) needed to be locked on with Z-targeting. This mini-boss was intended to totally shift that point of view and really mess with your head. He's easy when you change the way you play the game. That was the intention of Dark Link but unfortunately reviews like this one are almost always biased in the sense that these types of reviews don't look at games with a Game Designers view-point. This video had a lot of good points but also made terrible arguments for bad parts of the game. Idk why I talked about all that as a response to you....but yeah that was ummm, Dark Link thing

[@kenjackodjn2204]

Casshern I can't reply to your above comment so I'll reply here; all I have to say is this: you need to form your own opinions and present them in a more meaningful way as quite frankly you just seem to be regurgitating Egoraptor's sequelitis, either intentionally or subconsciously. Nobody is going to give respect to regurgitation so if you truly want to provide value to the world of computer game review/criticism then you need to find your own style and way of voicing things; read some good books on game design theory, educate yourself beyond the standard and elevate yourself to a position of true knowledge before attempting to look intelligent or an authority on the subject. Passion is great but it can only get you so far.

[@CasshernSinz1613]

Kenjack Odjn I do have my own opinions. Although opinions don't make reviews good, they tend to make them biased, which is typically bad. I hate KZbin reviews for that very reason. KZbin reviews tend to be incomplete because they just aren't set up well. If I get my own started up I would have to break the topics down into entire series of videos to actually give detailed reviews. Agreeing with someone isn't wrong. I do agree with many of Arin's points because in many cases he's correct. Idk why everyone suddenly hates his point of view in his sequelitis videos simply because he criticized OoT but everyone now stands heavily against him because of that. I was repeating a lot of Sequelitis because it makes good points. Arin makes interesting viewpoints of how OoT was set up and actually addressed issues that the designers at Nintendo fixed/removed. Many of the things he mentioned have since been removed from Zelda, like the death pucks coming around the corner. I am educating myself in game design atm. I look up articles from designers and I watch Extra Credits videos. They give tons and tons of in depth ideas about game design because they are game designers. Overall, I'm not just barfing up whatever other people say and call it my own ideas. I do and WILL however reference other people's viewpoints to assert my own viewpoints. It is easier to be seen as credible if you have other people who can openly agree with you versus being the only person making that argument. FYI, Arin (Egoraptor) actually likes Matthewmatosis. I actually found this guy because of Arin. Reason I say this is because Arin has openly admitted to not fulfilling his goals in his Zelda sequelitis. Despite him not doing what he fully intended on doing he still made many good points. Some were opinion based, yet were sometimes reasonable flaws in design.

[@kenjackodjn2204]

Casshern Thanks for taking the time to reply, I am looking forward to watching and/or reading your thoughts when you make them public. It's all good, everyone gets influenced and inspired and I am aware Arin has a lot of time for Matt, very different styles but still very heavily opinion based. It will be refreshing to see a critique on design that cites other sources so I really hope you get it off the ground. Good luck in your studies, computer game design is such a deep and complex thing but at the same time can be so simple. Opinions, particularly ones based on study or fact can only make our own stronger so all the best!

[@CasshernSinz1613]

Kenjack Odjn Oh wow thanks. Tbh I didn't expect such a genuinely polite reply. Nice to see good people on KZbin for once :3

[@OCMOOO]

I keep coming back listening to these reviews. They're like long lasting ear candy

[@maverickay5807]

Preach it ^^^

[@Kurasai56]

I’m saying! At least 3 times a week xD, Between Matt, and KingK, I have my ear candy covered :)

[@KnightofChaosDeck]

4:47 It's Rarou, the Light Sage in an animal form.

[@EXHellfire]

when is it ever said?

[@hamachibeans4471]

I'm pretty sure it more commonly known and accepted as princess Zeldas dad from skyward sword

[@EXHellfire]

That's not a good thing. It means that the owl's identity was known like 10+ years after the release of the game...

[@sanchy1826]

nice :)

[@ThatGuyNamedJoey]

That's what I thought too, but Kaepora Gabora comes back in the Spirit Temple.

[@BigJim11791]

9:19 The zoom in on the Goron's face made me lose my shit every time.

[@OldSacky]

32:20 I only just noticed the visual analogy to what you're saying at that point. I applaud you for that sir!

[@VGMasta458]

Also, the implication is that the Gerudo kidnap Hylian males in order to breed with them, which ended up in an ironically hilarious situation during the game where they end up kidnapping the flamboyant carpenters who all have an obviously questionable sexuality.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

It's possible that their campiness represented something relatable to the Gerudo, as a culture of only women, or they noticed that they might not be interested in the opposite sex and specifically captured them because of how psychologically painful the ensuing snu snu would be as a means of torture for their amusement.

[@MrJemoeder1990]

The carpenters are gay? wtf

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@MrJemoeder1990 all carpenters are gay. You didn’t know?

[@DeinOnkel343]

@@SaberRexZealot yeah that’s a canon fact in Zelda except for the one in botw that married a gerudo and made a whole fucking town

[@Tjalian]

This is the best Ocarina of Time review I have ever, ever watched. I've been playing the game for 15 years now, been involved in the hacking scene, and even dabbled with speed running the game and honestly thought "why would I watch a review of a game I couldn't possibly know more about" and you bring up so many great points I hadn't even thought of. It's almost like you've reviewed the game with a fresh set of eyes. It's a brilliant, brilliant review. You've already earned yourself a subscription and can't wait to watch the rest of your reviews! Bravo.

[@adhirg]

what’s your PB for Ocarina, and what category?

[@NilkadNaquadaG]

Fun fact, the canonical explanation for how the Gerudo reproduce is they once a year journey into Hyrule to basically have 1-night stands for the purpose of conception

[@Senthain]

They never asked for this. (I'm so sorry, but the opportunity was practically waving its ass in my face)

[@Sarentor]

Man I wanna live in Hyrule

[@NilkadNaquadaG]

I think the first I heard of it was on Zeldapedia a few years ago, more recently (and more reputably) it was confirmed in Hyrule Historia.

[@NilkadNaquadaG]

If I recall correctly it was also mentioned in one of the games at some point. By a gossip stone, I think.

[@user-qt5eh9wb7g]

what do the gerdo do with baby boys? Kill them?

[@bklopps]

i think the time travel between childhood and adulthood is a really important part to the game as it serves as a main theme. how fun and wondrous the world can seem to us as kids, and how coming into adulthood youre hit with this realisation of how shitty the world can be and how much easier things were when you were younger

[@mountainhouse5447]

Especially the magic beans. If you don't plant things as a child you won't have them as an adult

[@Revolver_Otacon]

I love this video, and I can't believe I never noticed this mistake: Kaepora Gaebora (the owl) is stated to be a reincarnation of a sage by one of the Gossip Stones! It would have been nice for the game to explain it in a non-optional way, but it's there nonetheless.

[@ahmz1404]

When I played this I did the entire water temple without the tunic, I didn't know about it.

[@williamappelskog940]

+ahmz1404 Bullshit.

[@Fr0stGenesis]

Me too. Not because I didn't know about it. But because I didn't realize I could use the Blue Fire to melt the Zoras and access the shop (The tunic is there in the past, but the shopkeeper doesn't allow you to buy it since it's too big for Young Link). Ended up finishing the game with no Blue Tunic

[@LegendofLegaia929]

+Ducking Ducksons Not really. Depending on how many hearts you have, the game gives you a good minute or so before you have to go back up for air. It would make the temple even more tedious, but it's totally possible.

[@rogerklotz7737]

LegendofLegaia929 never man how did you do that

[@truthseek3017]

NOT POSSIBLE

[@RynKen]

I just finished Egorapor's "Sequelitis - ZELDA. It had so many mistakes and pointless complaints that it was hard to watch. This Video's information is a lot more accurate.

[@RynKen]

Cwestlov I don't need to think it over WAYYY longer. This Video is more accurate.

[@yashar011]

The point of Sequelitis is not to highlight the pros or cons of a game, rather it compares games in a series and how it has progressed. Egoraptor's complaint is that the 2D format which worked well in LttP didn't translate flawlessly into 3D, and because of that the dungeons, controls and mechanics had to change to cater to the changes in both style and hardware. In the end, no review is more accurate than another because it's all subjective. There's no doubt that OoT is among the most influential video games of all time, but that doesn't mean it's without its flaws, even glaring ones.

[@RynKen]

yashar011 Comparing games doesn't work so well when the explanations have too much incorrect information behind it. A lot of the information provided in his latest Sequelitis was wrong. So one review can definitely be less accurate then another.

[@yashar011]

RynKen What was so inherently wrong with it that made it inaccurate exactly? Playing and reviewing video games is Egoraptor's job and I'm sure that his understanding of nearly any video game is better than either yours or mine.

[@RynKen]

yashar011 If you've seen Egoraptor play video games regularly you'd know that he often ignores directions, misunderstands what's happen on screen and blames the game for his own mistakes. His lack of understanding of many games is why his comparison video is so poorly done. If you want to know what was so inherently wrong with his video watch this and his video again and pay closer attention or play it yourself like I did and see what parts make sense and which ones don't.

[@TheSqoad]

I saw this video not long after release, and somehow all this time I never stuck around past the conclusion and the black screen to realise you played King Sora's scootching animation a second time. What a lovely little thing to discover after all this time, haha!

[@JesusIsAMoose]

the gerudo mate with hylian and hyrulean men i would assume.

[@TheSnapshotKing]

Either that or they're all virgin births. It would make sense, since they're all identical, same DNA from a single woman. Then every 100th year an X chromosome mutates to a Y.

[@ArcadeStunfisk]

Yeah I feel like I remember someone in the game saying that the Gerudo women were occasionally seen looking for men in the Market town.

[@ZobmieRules]

Sara Nicholas TheSnapshotKing *_"They say that Gerudos sometimes come to Hyrule Castle Town Market to look for boyfriends."_*

[@mxelmc]

Sara Nicholas Yep, that's why the men are locked up in the gerudo fortress.

[@ZobmieRules]

TNT apples _Suddenly, I bet a lot of men want to get captured now..._

[@licentioushowler3400]

Guys, there's like a million comments saying something along the lines of: "Dude, there's a million magic pots at the bottom of the Ganondorf boss fight. Use them dummy." Even if Matt was actually daft enough to not realize this (c'mon, do you actually think he missed that!?), here's the issue: The game takes you through that room before you reach Ganon, and there's no way you're going to know that these pots will come in handy later on your first play-through, so what will most people probably do at that point? Break them to restock on all the hearts they've likely lost against Iron Knuckles. It's true that the magic and heart jars are segregated, but by the time you broke enough pots to realize this, you may have already broken half of them! And no, they don't respawn for the actual boss fight for some reason! _This_ is the reason why it's possible to run out of magic if your first time around. That being said, I feel like Matt's gripe was a bit unfair; there are plenty of ways to restock your magic in this game, and it's pretty clear that the light arrows consume magic, so a logically prepared person would take a potion or two to the final battle anyway as Zelda states it pretty clearly that you'll need to use the arrows to beat Ganon. The only way this wouldn't be an option is if that person only had the _one_ mandatory empty bottle in the game and opted to keep a fairy in it instead, but that's probably more the player's fault if they're not being explorative enough to _at least_ get two. Furthermore, for all the people saying "don't use Z-targetting for the Dark Link boss--it's thematic with Link conquering himself and stuff!" Uhm... _why_ wouldn't Navi have made a more explicit message like: "I can't help you, Link!" Or perhaps, "You'll have to find a way to beat him without my help." Instead of the oh-so-helpful "conquer yourself"? It's pretty clear in the Ganondorf fight for instance... And furthermore, the _entire game's melee combat_ is devised around Z-targetting. Getting rid of it feels bad and clumsy. A KZbin commenter, +lavulman here said it better than I would have: "The problem with it isn't just the jump attack, though it is the prime example. Everything from maneuvering to attacking just looks and feels clumsy when you don't Z-Target. A nice and effective sidehop or backflip is replaced with a simple roll. Being able to block and move at the same time, one of the most convenient features of Z-Targeting, is replaced with an awkward crouching block that's really only useful for aiming the mirror shield. It's certainly possible to beat Dark Link without Z-Targeting already, because it's not exactly a difficult game, but the fight devolves into a boring mashfest where it could have had a very nice flow to it." So yes, attacking Dark Link without Z-targetting is helpful for those stuck on him, but to argue that it was an intended feature is dubious to say the least. (What next, is the Megaton Hammer a symbolic metaphor of Dark Link acquiescing to the power of the brotherly bond it represents between you and Darunia?)

[@teadrinkerfication9160]

Licentious Howler the jars respawn during the fight

[@licentioushowler3400]

@@teadrinkerfication9160 I distinctly remember them not doing so for some reason. I played on a 1.2 cart. You? (again, no biggie either way since there's plenty of ways to get magic like I said up above.)

[@licentioushowler3400]

Actually, wait, you're right that the jars respawn, but the problem is their contents do not. IIRC the game flags them as being empty if you already broke them before entering the fight or something to the same effect (however the systems work under the hood). Again, can only really speak for the 1.2 rev.

[@teadrinkerfication9160]

Licentious Howler I think I’m thinking of the 3ds one where the jars respawn, maybe they don’t in the n64 one 🤔

[@mikeluna2026]

Doesn't sound like it was his first playthrough though...

[@Keldroc]

Haha, "provides an excellent introduction to Zelda in a t'ree dimensional environment." I get it.

[@wilson-ie3ce]

Keldroc no thats just his accent you idiot haha

[@Keldroc]

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[@azzizsamureh3840]

wilson thatsthejoke.exe

[@calebamundson4521]

Azziz Samureh thatsthejoke.avi

[@azzizsamureh3840]

Mr. Jiggles thatsthejoke.mp4

[@austin1470]

32:52, I don't think Ganondorf is the child of multiple incests. The Gerudos are based on the Amazons, which was an all women tribe during Greek history. They would seduce men in nearby tribes in order to obtain their "seeds". They also had sex slaves. This also explains why all those men that got captured at Gerudo Valley wanted to see the Gerudos. They wanted to get laid.

[@crono3015]

Rated E10, folks.

[@edwardnigma9756]

I always assumed that the females could reproduce with each other in a manner akin to sharks, and that producing a male member of their species was a fluke that occasionally occurred every so often. Whichever way is the correct interpretation: rated E10 indeed.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Austin Amazons are from Greek Mythology, not history. Crono It's better/worse than that: Ocarina of Time was made before the E10 rating existed, so it was rated E when it originally was released for the Nintendo 64.

[@Fyr3St0rm]

@@matthewmuir8884 It took two nears for somebody to point out that the Amazons were a myth and five more for somebody to care. I need a nap.

[@Mrster]

For the Ganondorf fight, shouldn't there be more than enough magic at the bottom?

[@brianbernstein3826]

not once the pots are gone (yeah you have to kinda really really blow for this to happen, no offense matthewmatosis lol) having to start the game over due to no magic was a much bigger problem in LTTP, particularly against the Turtle Rock boss Twinrova. there is however, a room in the water temple that if you fall into this one pit you can't get out and have to reset the N64... unless you've cast that teleport spell in the dungeon already.

[@Mrster]

***** Exactly, you should have enough if you come into the room basically without magic, so it's completely fair.

[@brianbernstein3826]

I wouldn't call it "fair," I'd call it ridiculously ridiculously easy for a final boss... lol

[@Mrster]

***** Alright, more than fair. ;) In any case, shouldn't have been an issue for him.

[@brianbernstein3826]

he sounds like a pretty damn good gamer from watching his other videos.... for example he says he never saw the blue peach in mario galaxy 2 (kinda hard to believe honestly)

[@BoraxNTheFettuc]

My god, someone that doesn't have a nostalgia-blind, heavily-biased opinion on Ocarina of Time. +1,000 respect points.

[@alexreleases]

That really isn't a horrid problem. I understand it's tempting to say that, because of it's high ratings, but people are very honest about it...and it's still great.

[@FatsFalafel]

This critique is nonsense. "You don't find out what's going on until a certain point in the game" "time travel allows them to reskin despite the game being about time travel" Dude is being critical of things that aren't flaws but critical to the game itself.

[@chrislee5268]

It's amazing how quick the Nintoddlers come out when someone dares to say anything negative about OoT

[@theshadowenigma4919]

@@chrislee5268 I find it strangely ironic that in an attempt to insult others via suggesting a lack of maturity, you yourself demonstrate such lack of maturity through the use of an incredibly immature word, that too one which is presumably self-made seeing as it isn't actually a word at all. It's comical really. And before you or anyone else makes the inevitable baseless claim, I'm not a "Nintendo fanboy" or whatever the modern equivalent for that is, though you're of course free to think otherwise.

[@brianboley870]

@@FatsFalafel I agree. He set out to be the dissenting opinion before writing review...

[@caliklepto1316]

3:03 "tree dimensional environment" not sure if that was on purpose or your accent..

[@Jphthe2]

LOL

[@atomicturtles3421]

KennyThe Clasher そこそ

[@Golem29]

Link goes tirty tree and a turd percent longer

[@browncoat697]

There's a fairly straightforward explanation for the epilogue when child Link revisits Zelda after being sent back in time. Basically, the intro of OoT still happens - going into the Great Deku Tree, its death, grabbing the Kokiri Emerald, and then Link heading off to Hyrule Castle - but *Child Link still has his memories of the latter half of OoT.* That's why in Majora's Mask he's searching for Navi, he's looking for the only constant friend he ever had during his adventures across Hyrule. Basically, Child Link knows Ganondorf's plan (which was to trick Link and Zelda into opening the Door of Time and the Sacred Realm so he can invade it), so he first refuses to go along with Ganondorf plan, and also warns the Royal Family of exactly what Ganondorf's plans are, and accompanies that warning with evidence: the death of the Great Deku Tree, the illness of Jabu-Jabu, the blocking of Dodongo Cavern, all caused by Ganondorf. Ganondorf never gets a chance to enact his evil plan, and the latter half of OoT basically never happens - in this timeline. This is how we get the infamous split Zelda timeline: in the timeline where adult Link defeats Ganon after he ruled Hyrule for 7 years, the Hero is gone, and does not return (having been sent back to another timeline by adult Zelda), so when he escapes and attempts to conquer Hyrule again, there is no Hero, so the Goddesses flood Hyrule, resulting in Wind Waker. In the timeline where child Link goes back and warns the Royal Family, Ganondorf is instead arrested and tried by the Sages, resulting in the cutscene in Twilight Princess where he's tried and executed, except his execution is botched and he manages to kill a sage before being locked into the Twilight Realm.

[@ElleRoni]

The jerky first person aiming is an artifact of using a gamecube or wii classic controller, I think, since I remember aiming on the N64 release being very accurate.

[@ElleRoni]

fhhh On the contrary: the A and B buttons on the video are red and green, as they were on the GCN pad, while on the N64 pad and game they were green and blue, respectively.

[@ElleRoni]

fhhh You are correct. The right shoulder Z button of the GCN pad is also mapped for the Up C button, making the controls very similar to the scheme used in The Wind Waker.

[@rmsgrey]

Also, the N64 had Z-targeting not L-targeting

[@tygamike]

Dark Link doesn't counter your every move if you don't L/Z-target him. You're supposed to not use Navi and fight him just as Link. Which works well thematically because it's Link fighting himself.

[@pumpkin1escobar]

***** yeah sure you didn't.

[@Dubloh]

***** AND prepared you for the final fight with ganondorf which you also cannot use navi's assistance.

[@linkking46]

His moves do change you swing horizontally when you don't lock on and have a different combo of attacks while with the z targeting you swing vertically have better reach can stab and have a different combo so yes it does change the way you fight beyond the jump attack

[@Alianger]

No, that's a self imposed challenge. And it's not like skipping extra heart pieces or other optional stuff when the game is designed around using those functions everywhere else from the start, and not even implying that it shouldn't be used there.

[@everythingpony]

Mildly Appealing Valentine not z target makes it so he cant guess your movements

[@Kronksterpher]

The funny thing is that I've probably spent 10+ hours on the fishing mini game as a kid. My cousin and I used to play it all the time together when we were young. It's funny how the smallest additions can add so much to certain audiences.

[@LavosYT]

A Chrono Trigger review would be amazing, great video btw!

[@SergioSergio12345]

*Postives:* +Great use of 3D enviroments +A lot of songs can be played on the ocarina +Great pacing *Negatives:* -Fucking gigantic noses

[@DinDjarr1]

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[@RicoNuko]

This game was a classic and deserves all of the praise it gets. It is the "Romeo and Juliet" or "A Midsummer night's Dream" of gaming. Ocarina of Time is a classic and will live on because it is the pinnacle of gaming.

[@SomeRandomDude000000]

ironically romeo and juliet is starting to be bashed in recent years just like another game(im talking about OOT)

[@RicoNuko]

Haha, I think people who don't appreciate OOT don't appreciate the Zelda series as a whole. I enjoyed the other Zelda games, but Ocarina of Time is a classic. Ever subsequent Zelda game has attempted to reach the pinnacle OOT was at and has failed to do so.

[@SomeRandomDude000000]

Joshua Grant want to know why they did. because nintendo couldnt make an open world in 3d. so they streamlined it and put in an epic story. and because this got 10/10s they never tried to change the formula. and go back to open world. i mean why experiment with a new play style when you can do the same one that got you 10/10s and millions of sold copies. this got the series in a state of monotony and all because of the 10/10s. its not nintendos fault they were doing the least risky thing and thats not exactly a bad thing. but if people actually gave critisisms and tried to show how oot could improve we wouldnt have all these copies of OOT(only ones that seemed different was wind waker all the other 3d zeldas were just the same gameplay and story again and again) your 10/10s caused the series to plateau instead of improve. i mean why should they try to improve, everyone says this formula is flawless lets just keep doing it. if people actually stated where OOT could be improved 3d zeldas would be 100x better. your 10/10s costed the franchise

[@RicoNuko]

Wrong. You are saying that a class masterpiece does not deserve praise. I cannot agree with that. Ocarina of Time WAS an open world in 3D and for the first time ever. The problem is not with Zelda, the problem is that novelty doesn't happen often. There has to be a major shift in technology for it to occur. The transition from 2D to 3D was precisely what was needed. Graphics haven't changed greatly, 3D textures are enhanced with greater detail with each generation. However, a major shift in technology has not occurred. The problem is not Ocarina of Time, quit acting like it was.

[@SomeRandomDude000000]

Joshua Grant it's not open world it's linear. The game tells you to go here then here then here. With no differences. In an open world game How everyone experiences the dungeons would be different. Cuz they let you choose where to go not tell you where to go

[@mrfandangojimmies7117]

After watching Egoraptor fart about and be a idiot for a half hour this is like a bastion of sanity.

[@Kurasai56]

MrFandango Jimmies I have to agree, I dislike Arins videos, his opinions are based more in his biases than in facts and that bothers me. Having an informed opinion based on facts, will always be more appealing than an opinion based on personal biases (or preferences).

[@nintendokings]

There were a few flaws in this review: 1. Zeldas lullaby is not from OoT, it's from ALttP 2. The owl is implied to be the light sage (the old man), so he's not just there 3. There is magic at the bottom of the Ganondorf battle, you have to fall down and climb back up.

[@nintendokings]

And I think there were more mistakes

[@apcreed]

Well he did say 'if you know a way, I do not'. He was just unaware of these things.

[@LegendofLegaia929]

There's magic at the bottom, but if you somehow manage to fuck up enough and waste those resources, the fight becomes unwinnable. Also, I might be remembering this incorrectly, but I think that those pots don't give you anything if you break them before you fight Ganondorf.

[@thegrayghost1786]

nintendokings Where is it implied that the light sage is the owl? I must know!

[@nintendokings]

TheGrayGhost Just look it up. Kaepora Gaebora (the owl) is Rauru.

[@PapaLuigi3000]

At 26:16, I would just like to point out that you don't actually *need* to put on your iron boots here. You could have just dived below and swam to the other side. There are actually several other parts in the water temple that are like this. I don't like the excessive menu management in the water temple either, but it seems to me that the biggest reason why everyone is hating on the iron boots is because they mistakenly think they need to use them more than they actually need to.

[@GEhotpants101]

+PapaLuigi3000 I didn't like it because, unlike other temples, somehow the door/key situation is confusing. As a kind playing the game, I couldn't find *one* key, and I was suddenly faced with the horrible thought that I might have to pay attention to what doors I was opening. In reality, it was the same as the other dungeons, and I just couldn't find a single key, but that horror of "the doors are a puzzle, and I've already failed with no reset!" really put a damper on my enjoyment of the puzzle.

[@ChristianWS.]

+GEhotpants101 I think this is the worse Nightmare a kid can have

[@jamiecal11]

+GEhotpants101 yeah, but the temples should be daunting when you first go in.

[@hawaiianrobot]

I first became aware of your videos through Hbomberguy's Dark Sous 2 defence. He did mention in a livestream that he really likes and respects your content, so I thought I'd give you a shot. Glad I did, it was insightful, critical, thought-provoking, and genuinely funny in multiple sections. Subscribed.

[@1BlueYoshi]

31:43 Whaaaaaaaaatt???? After all these years of playing this game I never noticed that. That's really cool/creepy/depressing. I remember as a kid I used to love going into the town and massacring the Redeads, and now this makes me feel kind of guilty about it. :P

[@razmitora2214]

Best thing that sums my thoughts on this was when Matt said "I have no idea why this happens, but it's nice that it's in there."

[@wiiztec]

+AnonymousJon I can't remember if I ever bothered to kill one of them but I never knew that either

[@Arb1st]

Can we talk about how perfect it is that when hes talking about gannondorf and the all female tribe, all the clips hes playing fit perfect

[@Spaztron64]

The hookshot is jerky cause it was meant to be aimed with the original n64 analogue stick, which was less sensitive than modern analogue sticks. Also because of the build quality, over time the N64 analogue dead zone physically increases.

[@GuyWithBadHair]

In the ganondorf fight, there are magic refills if you climb down to the floor below. Probably been pointed out already, but whatever...

[@paigelove2666]

In response to the hookshot, and the general aiming/subtle movement complaints, I think it's worth noting that that's an emulation quirk. The N64 stick had a couple notable idiosyncrosies (reverse deadzone functionality, a relatively large movement area, the strange octagonal gate) that no future stick mimiced perfectly, and that emulators today still have trouble properly mapping stick movement to. Since the rereleases on GC and the VCs were just emulation, there was issues in how they interpretted a modern alps stick, and made the response too sensitive. The 3Ds version was especially bad with the stick, but the gyro aim there is fantastic and is part of the reason why Ship of Harkinnian offers gyro.

[@NoeLPZC]

Great video but you've got a few things... not "wrong", but a bit off. Firstly, though it's never explained why he's helping you out, you do learn that the owl is the reincarnation of an ancient sage named Kaepora Gaebora. Pretty sure you learn it from a gossip stone. Secondly, and also from a gossip stone I think, the game tells you that the Gerudo women often come into Hyrule to find boyfriends. So Gerudo males might not have to be sired by other Gerudos - they might be born to Hylians. But assuming you're right, and Link kills Ganondorf when he's significantly younger than 100 (we assume)... Link is indirectly committing Gerudo genocide by wiping out their only means of reproduction.

[@BrianFace182]

I challenge that the water temple is the worst in Zelda history. The water temple in Majora's Mask is arguably more frustrating.

[@hylianfelldragon1308]

*Great Bay Temple

[@BrianFace182]

thanks for that captain pedantic, you've always got my back

[@Thewarrior26]

+Mark Richardson There is definitely a very frustrating part of the Great Bay Temple where if you get caught by the current in a certain room after changing the waterflow, then it will force you back into several rooms where you have to complete several puzzles that you completed before to get back to the main part of the temple.

[@diddymelone2265]

+Mark Richardson well water temples in general, I dislike them usually. in ALttP I hated the 2nd dungeon most, so annoying. MM I think did a better job with the water temple, because you´re actually mobile and quick under water, where in OoT you are slow as hell. But OoT water temple has got one redeeming factor of greatness: the shadow doppelganger, that sequence is awesome and almost makes up for the pain, but I still hate the water temple in OoT most. In MM I actually like the boss fight, a little too easy, but rotating into the water and out of it landing on the platform feels elegant when executed correctly.

[@BlinkLed]

+Mark Richardson I know this is a horribly unpopular opinion, but Great Bay Temple was actually my favorite dungeon in Majora's Mask. I loved swimming around in the Zora Mask, which fixed pretty much all of the problems I had with the Water Temple in OoT, and enjoyed the main puzzle of getting water flowing by opening the valves throughout the dungeon. Everyone says it was the worst, but I had a much worse time with Snowhead to be honest.

[@progfoxmusic]

"Provides a great introduction to a tree-dimensional environment" heheeeee

[@apcreed]

He's Irish! They pronounce the number three as tree. they have a bloody garden weed as their national symbol and let puffs marry.

[@progfoxmusic]

I know... I know... :)

[@tvulture5590]

Personally, I smiled more at "tree-dee". Love it either way.

[@flemmingb.4637]

35:00 Always explore! If you climb down the walls of the pillar Ganondorf is flying (levitating?) above you will end up in the last room before the lengthy stairs that lead to the room that Ganondorf is in. Down in this big room there are plenty of jars that contain hearts, arrows, and Jars of Magic.

[@Jim2point0]

I spit out my coffee at the "nose" part. "Unreasonable."

[@ValkenEX]

I feel it bears mentioning that in OoT3D, you certainly CAN have a duel with Dark Link while L-Targetting him with the Master Sword, and it's actually a really intense and fun swordfight in that version. It's one of the many, MANY reasons I consider the 3DS version the definitive version of the game.

[@harchierplebbington9397]

the 3DS is a excellent remake to the game, it's quite hard to play the original game now that i have the remake

[@DeMomcalypseLive]

I never found the appeal. In the 3DS version, all I did was hold down the L-target and just mash the attack button until Dark Link died. The fighting mechanics weren't made for a duel, considering how limited you are. If a Dark Link was some sort of secret boss in Twilight Princess after obtaining all of the skill scrolls, it easily would have been a better "duel"

[@CheeseMakesMeWiggle]

3:00 "Tree-dimensional environment"... I see what you did there. ;)

[@SickBoyOC]

I think that's just his accent there. In other videos his T's sound like tree.

[@CheeseMakesMeWiggle]

Yeah I know... I was just trying to make a funny. :P

[@frankkubrick865]

Even a decade later this review is still holds up perfectly

[@greenmilklatte]

Pretty sure the "black sheep of the Zelda family" is Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. Great review though!

[@Nolastnameforyou]

I think the idea with the dark link fight is that the skills and items he obtained have allowed him to surpass himself like who he was before the journey

[@alexpskywalker]

I honestly didn't enjoy this game when I played it. It felt cryptic to the point of being finicky, and crap like unskipable dialogue gave the game a sour taste from the beginning.

[@Slashstar314]

I can agree with that. I broke my nostalgia glasses with this game after playing it too many times making me desensitized. I think the biggest flaw in Ocarina of Time nowadays is that it hasn't aged well with it's theme compared to other Zelda games. I think the only things left going for this game is that it's nice for first-time Zelda players and the transition to 3D, but otherwise, it's hard to find 'wow' factors in what Ocarina of Time offers compared to it's family. It's just my opinion, don't take it as a fact, everyone has their own take on this.

[@maxcorrice9499]

I didn't play it until the remake but I did enjoy it Sorta It was WAY too cryptic in some points and I had a friend who tried to play for weeks and never got anywhere and the boss fights are too fast for anyone with a slow processing speed(such as I) making it so that it took month to beat one boss and half a year to defeat Ganon Also mm is overrated

[@AntiRiku]

***** Got it when I was three years old. Got stuck in ''The Deku Tree.'' Got ''Donkey Kong 64'' shortly after which made me place ''Zelda'' on the shelf and play with the monkey. Fast forward. I started replaying old games when I was around 7-8. Though whenever I looked at the ''Ocarina of Time'' cartridge on my shelf, I would only remember it faintly and just saw it as a grass cutter simulator for whatever reason, so I never played it due to remembering it was boring. Fast forward again. Got into gaming and knew that ''Ocarina of Time,'' that game I only had bad memories of were praised as one of the greatest. Started playing it, got to ''Jabu Jabu.'' Then the version for 3DS got announced. I waited for it and played it. ---------------------------------------------- Today, I have finished that game over 7-8 times since 2011. Not quite my favorite, Twilight Princess takes that place, but arguebly my second. In conclusion. No, nostalgia is not the only reason for why people like it. It is a solid game. People like yourself most likely only dislike it because it is as popular as it is. If one game deserves to be praised as a good game, that is definitely one of them. Is it unflawed, nope - but is the only reason for why people like that game purely based on nostalgic reasons alone. Not at all.

[@hristaki99]

Batman Yeah, I played on an emulator and I found myself holding the fast-forward button for the first two minutes. Then 10 minutes of gameplay and I got stuck in the Deku Tree and didn't know what to do. I know I seem like an idiot, but I haven't played the game as a young kid and I haven't had 2 hours to run around until I figure out what to do. The worst thing is the unresponsive controls which are result of the 20 frames per second the game runs at. That's 3 times less frames per second compared to A Link to The Past. From start to end, the game looks like a slideshow and controls like one. EDIT: It's even worse in Europe, where it runs at 16.6FPS.

[@Jelster64]

hristaki99 "I found myself holding the fast-forward button for the first two minutes" This game immerses its players into its story. If you don't care about the story, you'll despise this game. If you like a bit of story in a videogame, there's a high chance you'll love it. "I haven't played the game as a young kid and I haven't had 2 hours to run around until I figure out what to do." Well, you don't need to walk around for 2 hours. In fact, breaking the web by jumping from a big height is made fairly obvious. When you walk over the web, Navi tells you that there's something under it and that there must be some way of breaking it. Then, the game subtly hints (without any further textboxes!) that you need to jump onto it from a great height in order to break it. My guess is that you went into this game very impatiently. You said you're unwilling to "run around for 2 hours", but frankly, if you invested 10 minutes in exploring the dungeon, you would've figured out how to proceed. This isn't the kinda part of the game where many people will get stuck. It's fairly obvious. You're not an "idiot"; you're just not trying. I believe this impatience stems partly from playing on an emulator. When you sit in front of a big TV, you'll invest yourself much more into the game than when it's just another small window active in your computer, needing to fight for your attention with all your other active applications, like Facebook, Twitter, Skype etc. My point is that you need to invest yourself into this game, and when you do, the game will greatly pay you back with a great and immersive gaming experience. I believe the unresponsive controls are mostly due to playing with a keyboard, but also, I don't think you've played for long enough to really properly get used to them. And because of the nature of the game, the controls don't need to be THAT snappy anyway. And trust me when I say that I'm the type of guy to find 60 fps in games extremely important. However, I got over it with this game. I believe you can too. And if it's really that big of an issue for you, get the 3DS remake. It's 30 fps. (Play it on a 3DS XL though, the smaller screen really killed the experience for me personally.) Also, just to clarify, I don't have any nostalgia linked to this game at all. I'd only beaten it when I was 16. Give the game a good chance, play it on a console, and put all your attention towards it, and it will be worth it.

[@TheBroddha]

OoT and MM make up my favorite duology as games and as stories.

[@JoshRushingartist]

Thank you for taking such an in-depth objective look at this game. Too often I see people either blindly praising or blindly bashing OoT, with mostly arbitrary reasons to back themselves up. Although I do disagree with you on some points, I agree with your overall impression of the game. Great review, and I look forward to watching the rest!

[@joshm2305]

super late on this but you're the only person Ive seen mention this in the fan community, I thought I was the only one 👌

[@CronoDyne]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in the comments, but in case it's been glanced over.. Zoras have existed since the original LoZ.

[@wonderguardstalker]

In this form

[@ShermTank7272]

3:01 I know its just your accent, but I can't help but hear you saying "a tree-dimensional environment", which is actually just as fitting XD

[@frankieandrade9737]

This video just appeared in my recommended and I feel like I’ve been dragged back through time it’s so crazy, little did Matthew know that 8 years later during a pandemic this video would cure my boredom from being trapped inside. Thanks for uploading such a cool video

[@truthseek3017]

WTF

[@Benjmurphy7]

Great review, you have a very in depth take on many aspects of the game that I think a lot of people overlook. Despite this, you've surprised me by failing the first Ganondorf fight by running out of magic. You actually ENTER the room that contains all you need to defeat him before starting the boss fight, you just need to drop down and climb back up again to continue your fight. How could you have missed that? Also, the point of the Dark Link fight is to NOT use Z-Targetting.

[@0SC2]

"The Water Temple is the most tedious thing anyone is subjected to during Ocarina of Time." Would've been a great place to say " And that's including this," followed by the King Zora bit, instead of tacking it onto the end.

[@wonderguardstalker]

Thank god you don’t make these videos

[@SergioSergio12345]

I love how when he says Ganondorf would be very occcupied with all the women he shows game footage of things...you know, entering holes.

[@Dubloh]

35:00 you know you can drop down to the lower level where there are pots that have magic vials and then climb back up the center pillar, right?

[@paulmag91]

I'm glad someone said this.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

Dont you need Epona to jump the bridge to Gerudo Valley?

[@Doctormario4600]

I usually just hookshot across.

[@LJ-cb9eg]

Same I always use my hookshot/long shot

[@johnnystevens1248]

***** wait you have to jump with epona? I did'nt know that. I thought you need the hookshot

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

LOTR Nerd its been a while so i cant remember for sure. But I have a memory of jumping the bridge with Epona

[@Doctormario4600]

***** You can get across if you have either the hookshot or Epona.

[@TheLEGOZora]

32:25 This is what we in the editing business call an "Intellectual Montage"

[@Lady.Luthien]

What I hate the most about the Water Temple (and this is something I NEVER see anyone else mention) is that after all the crap you go through, Zora's Domain still remains frozen! Like all the work you did was for nothing.

[@Al-ji4gd]

So the thing you hate most about the Water Temple actually has nothing to do with the Water Temple? Lol.

[@deedlessdeity218]

The Owl is a projection of Rauru, the sage of light. Their heads are designed similarly. This becomes more evident in other Zelda Titles where incarnations of him are incorporated, mostly so in Skyward Sword.

[@MrHinchapelotas]

5:00 the Gossip stones imply he's Rauru, and Hyrule historia confirmed it later.

[@kakoka1pro]

matthewmatosis>egoraptor

[@A114-j2v]

+Father Karras Arin has said he enjoys oot, it just has flaws.

[@kakoka1pro]

Father Karras nope, it's because matthew reviews every detailed aspect of the game and actually makes fair points of critism. this channel still had plenty of reviews that I disagreed though.

[@kenjackodjn2204]

Very different styles with ultimately very different agendas. Egoraptor is first and foremost a comedian, his intention is to make the viewer laugh with his extreme, neurotic and loud form of comedy. The sequelitis series is quite informal, it's entertaining to watch and Arin gives some very good justification for his opinion but he is no sort of authority on game design with no qualifications or evidential experience to validate his opinion nor citations of more reputable/academic sources to justify what he is asserting as "correct". Matthew is giving a more formal breakdown of the design aspects but still, there is a distinct lack of credibility seeing as he has divulged very little about his profession, qualifications, experience etc. particularly when pertaining to computer game and design. What people need to understand is that these are not academic discourse, they have very little interest in giving credibility to why certain things are in conflict with good design principles or whether they are in tandem. You would do this by providing the thoughts of others by achieving a consensus and focusing on why the point you are making is aligned to this. Both Matt and Arin give highly biased, opinion based and somewhat objective opinions but I never see them say that their opinion is the right one, just that it is their feeling about how games should/couldn't/shouldn't be.

[@DrnMontemayor]

***** The only thing in which I agree with Arin is on how the combat is filled with waiting periods that add nothing to how strong or difficult the enemies are. This is a problem that is still present. Despite their attempts to introduce more combat mechanics, or cheap "hit around the general direction the Bokoblin left open" I would like the combat to be more fluid in future titles. His arguments on how Z-targeting takes away from the environment, and the spikes he fails to understand are also related to auditive ques, are pretty dumb arguments.

[@DrnMontemayor]

*****​ I updated my comment. I know that he sucks, but the combat is still not as good as it can be. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess tried, but it was still limited. And Skyward Sword was very simplistic, and the most efficient strategies are still primarily crowned by the Spin Attack/Skyward Strike and the finishing move with the exception of Moblins. And to stun enemies like Stalfos you still have to wait for them to be open. Hell, at least Majora's Mask made it so that you required proper timing to stun the Garo Master or the Dinolfol with a nut, instead of having you wait. Those enemies are both active and require an adequate response from the player,or else you get hurt. A Stalfos can lower its shield and still not attack or be a threat. And it is precisely that constant stun > attack that I also see as a problem, it lacks variety. 

[@GigaMan91]

I really hated the Shadow Link fight. I'm glad you put it in its place. Bongo Bongo is my favorite boss fight in the game.

In 33:10 you are wrong. There's a Gerudos that says they go often to Hyrule Castle to find boyfriends (I don't know how is exactly in english, I played in Spanish). This is a soft way of say that they go to hyrule castle to seduce men, have sex, get pregnant, never come back to see these men, and perpetuate the Gerudo civilization until they thinks they need more population growth. Eventually one of this breakaways results in the birth on one male baby. Is a materialistic point of view, but sincerely I think this is what Nintendo is trying to tell the player in a light way.

[@Isntthisalreadytaken]

+Evo Céntrico This. Although you would think this would eventually dilute the Gerudos' genes to the point that the Gerudos themselves eventually just coming to pseudo-extinction, I just tell myself "it's a video game, so maybe it just doesn't work that way."

[@jamiecal11]

yeah, and there's plenty of reasons why Ganon is mad; namely for the neglect from the royal family of Gerudo Valley. Also, the epilogue works fine, I don't get what he meant there. Link was clearly sent back in time after defeating Ganon to warn Zelda before it all goes down.

[@SeruraRenge11]

+Isntthisalreadytaken Irrelevant, Gerudo only give birth to Gerudo regardless of the race of their father.

[@Isntthisalreadytaken]

Well of course, it's just you'd think they'd pick up more Hylian genes with every generation. But I guess somehow they pass on only wholly Gerudo blood. Just have to suspend your disbelief, I guess.

[@SeruraRenge11]

***** They're like monstergirls that are all-female races

[@finaltheorygames1781]

As a kid, I was stuck on the water temple for literally years. Then one day I read in the players guide that you needed to use this one special item an order to lite all of these torches to get a chest or something. Literally stuck on that for years. Damn you no internet years.

[@brownsauce0921]

One of the Sheikah stones tells you that the owl is the reincarnation of a sage. Given the fact that his speech pattern is very similar to Rauru, and the fact that we never see Rauru outside the Sacred Realm, it's safe to conclude that their probably meant to be the same being. Obviously, as a sage, Rauru/Kaepora Gaebora has Link's success in his quest as the highest priority.

[@Xenunnaki]

for your bit about the time travel inconsistency, my takeaway is the bean sprouts don't automatically exist in the future because their existence in the future does not contribute to their creation, meanwhile the song of storms existing in the future directly contributes to its own existence because by existing already in the future it gets taught to you and thus 'later' taught to the windmill guy. If the song didn't already exist in the future regardless then it wouldn't exist at all, different than the beans' origin before the time shenanigans. I don't think they're necessarily incompatible, they just play with different ideas.

[@iscoppie]

hey i really love the reviews you make, they're incredibly thorough and well-thought-out, as well as humorous when you don't expect it. nice stuff, subscribed :)

[@whatamalike]

Breath of the wild will have voice acting, but I think it probably will be used so conservatively that it wont get irritating.

[@chavezchapin8275]

Im ashamed I saw Egoraptor´s OOT review before this one. The level of polish and overall analysis on Matthews review is far more excellent, complete and mature (not to say ambitious, boy 5 games in row...). Besides it was made way sooner, I´m sure Ego took all of your ideas.

[@stevedoidoultimate4815]

Indeed. He even favorited this video.

[@pissant42]

That's an extremely unfair comparison. Sequelitis isnt supposed to be mature, it's supposed to be funny. They are two completely different types of review style and to shun one for not being like the other is truly the most immature thing.

[@maverickay5807]

@@pissant42 pfff!!! XD

[@RadThibodeaux]

I actually like going to the temple to time warp, personally - the process made the whole transformation feel more significant than if you could just use an, idk, enchanted hourglass or something to insta-jump 7 years on a whim. Needing to play the prelude of light and actually go to that lonely pedestal always felt so cinematic and cool when I was a kid and really grounded me in the game’s reality.

[@Pwnsweet]

Agreed

[@ferrugemj18]

Ganondorf's nose never bottered me before, but those ears, look at the size of those ears! Also, during the fight with Ganondorf in the castle, if you drop down from the arena, there are a bunch of pots with pretty much everything you need for the fight (hearts, magic and arrows)

[@ZRFehr]

This game was my childhood, man. I think it's why I love open world RPG type exploration games to this day. Instant subscription, can't believe it took me this long and two guys arguing about Dark Souls for me to find this.

[@apcreed]

What did Ganondorf do for these 7 years anyway? Just say it took him 1 year to take over the land has he just been sat around alone for the remainder of the time waiting for Link to come stab him?!

[@thisisfyne]

7 years of ruling over all Hyrule while looking for the other two pieces of the triforce. Sounds legit!

[@scrunchyhoward8400]

Well, it does take a lot of practice to play a pipe organ really good.

[@rogerklotz7737]

David Nash he used his powers to corrupt the temples.

[@liamcurran5612]

>1 year to take over the land I think you mean 1 year to take over the marketplace while leaving the rest of hyrule unscathed

[@RAWchaosify]

11:53 Have you seen Igor's nose in the Persona series. It's at least two, maybe even three times as long as Ganandorf's.

[@americanus_ursus]

Mosquito’s nose or the red imp’s nose from soul Eater

[@matthewmuir8884]

33:00 Actually, Nintendo answered the question in Ocarina of Time itself, with one of the gossip stones saying that Gerudo women sometimes go to Castle Town to look for "boyfriends".

[@Sephiel263]

Slight correction about Kaepora Gaebora, he actually does have an explained background. One of the Gossip Stones mentions that he's a reincarnated Rauru (the old guy that gives you the light medallion).

[@OblivionFalls]

"Even these days, any voices in a Zelda game would probably come out sounding incredibly forced and ruin the experience" Prophetic. The inclusion of voice acting in Breath of the Wild turned out to be one of the many things that prevented my wife from enjoying it... well, besides all of the other problems that game had. 6/10.

[@zachsutton9866]

It didn't bother me what's so bad about it?

[@_heartunderblade2451]

"Voice acting in zelda would probably sound incredibly forced" so how about that botw cutscene ehh xD

[@CrashDunning]

You skipped the Dodongo cave dungeon...

[@UncomfortableSilence]

Maybe I'm a little late to point this out, but at 5:06 you mention how it's hard to understand why the owl would help and we get no indication of who he is. However, we do, at one point in the game a npc says things that imply that Kaepora Gaebora (Owl) is actually a reincarnation of Rauru the sage of light. This makes everything fall into place because The sage of Light would obviously help the hero of time.

[@LaughingManRa]

I never noticed before that the Redeads would ignore Link and focus on their fallen friend if you killed one of them. Kind of makes sense, if the Redeads are actually undead townspeople who retain some memory of their former lives. O_O

[@abcdefzhij]

22:27 And being responsible for one of the most gamebreaking glitches in video game history.

[@Pharoah2]

Andrew Ricklefs what glitch?

[@deebonash4487]

This game’s story and gameplay everything still holds today. It truly captivated the story going on. Love it

[@Zecretincorporated]

Your editing while talking about Gannon's possible activities the the other's of his clan was perfect.