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[@ishaanshankar7509]

one thing to note that is if you use the wheel provided with any moza wheel base it also becomes xbox compatible. Due to the security chip being in the wheel not the base. Moza also said they plan to release the wheel seperately

[@citedcanvas85]

Just recieved mine. Perfect for me. Upgraded from a g920 so im happy. Its been a looooong wait

[@OCRacing]

Ooh glad to hear! Everything well with it so far?

[@AdrenaLukeYT]

I upgraded from a used logitech G29 that I had for 3 years, to a Moza R9 wheelbase and Moza GS wheel! Just got them recently

[@masterkamen371]

How much heavier is it at full force feedback? I'm looking into their DD wheelbases and am thinking of getting the R9, it seems to be kind of a minimum for a "realistic" experience with a car with no power steering. G29 is trying to put out some force driving an IndyCar but it's still awfully weak.

[@AP383BB]

Just ordered mine! Coming from the Logitech ad well. I'm excited!

[@citedcanvas85]

@@OCRacing great so far. New to DD wheel so learning how it works on different racing games is an adjustment. I like the customisation from the app. Makes it interesting and brought life to games that became a bit stale

[@Very_Grumpy_Cat]

Remember the x-box compatability comes from a chip in the wheel not the base. So it is the wheel that makes is compatible to x-box

[@gundamOPS]

But it is only compatible with R5 and R12 (other than the R3) since you need the pedals to be directly connected to the base.

[@Hasmas891]

@@gundamOPSr21 base but v2 works with r3

[@Style.1l90]

Can I use the moza shifter and e brake with this?

[@Very_Grumpy_Cat]

@@Style.1l90 idk. But I think Boosted media talks about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYvddpiif7mmrJYsi=8PlTh7jejHtpkC2r

[@LeviAadland]

Nothing better than an oc racing review.

[@OCRacing]

OC Racing on the weekend?! Peak life

[@jamagzrc]

Best reviewer as always! Keep up the good work! I have the Moza R5 bundle and bought it because of your review! Thanks!

[@OCRacing]

Glad to hear, thanks for the support :)

[@cookiemonster2189]

Hello any heat issues?

[@Team_SpaceX]

Finally the review! Good vid oc!

[@OCRacing]

It’s been a LONG time coming 😂

[@thermgraphics6937]

The only R3 review I was waiting for!

[@OCRacing]

Hope it was worth the wait 🫡

[@Ps_Exzo]

I already own an r5 and still watched the whole way through. Love the content man

[@OCRacing]

I appreciate you bro 🫶🫶

[@Hiresis]

Another banger! Keep it up OC!

[@OCRacing]

thank you! Will do :)

[@abdulabbasi3929]

You should try making your own direct drive wheel using something like FFBeast! It would be quite interesting to see.

[@MaxMonstaaa]

YES! THE REVIEW I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!

[@OCRacing]

HOPE YOU ENJOY

[@vsm1456]

Is 3.9 Nm really low? I run my base at lower force than this and I don't need more, at least not until I get a proper rig. I didn't say what torque you use on your main base. Sure if someone comes from using a wheel at 10-15 Nm, then 4Nm will feel weak, but I doubt it's the same for people to whom it's the first wheel or an upgrade from low tier Logitech/Thrustmaster.

[@HaydenWardNZ]

100k subs is soooo close! Let's get him there 👊

[@andycasper83]

Thank you Oscar! I love your channel!

[@OCRacing]

Thanks Andy! Hope this was helpful :)

[@_Corsa]

I’ve had the R5 awhile, primarily play Farming Simulator and ATS. These small bases are the perfect footprint for simmers like me that vertically mount them. Moza~ You’ve got the truck rim, Please release a Farming Simulator wheel! Great review, thank you.

[@ALEEN517]

I'm an Xbox gamer just looking for info on getting into a mid priced wheel and pedals setup. This video was very helpful and informative.

[@MrMarcusWWW]

How useful?. The guy actually said he never used it on a Xbox. Would suggest watching a review where the reviewer actually uses a Xbox wheel on a Xbox

[@luxorcephrenSE23]

So if moza were to sell the wheel separately, i could then get the R9 base for a more involving experience? Think I'll wait.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

You didn’t go into the console compatibility aspect, unless I missed it. Im pretty sure u can take the rim on the r3 and use it on an r12 to achieve Xbox compatibility with the r12

[@OCRacing]

You’re right, I missed that. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like this wheel is offered on its own just yet. I’m sure moza are working on that though.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

@@OCRacing true. For the hardcore tho, I could see somebody buying the r3 just for the rim to get their r12 to work on an xbox. It only works on moza bases that have the input for the pedals on the base, which I think the r16 removes.

[@drwhulikesyou]

ik its a really old one, but could you review the Thrustmaster TX Ferrari 458 edition?

[@alienking_hd9386]

Are all the moza wheels compatible with all the moza wheel bases? And are all moza bundles compatible with xbox?

[@MicheleMotion]

Can the MOZA SR-P (load-cell) pedal be connected directly to the base?

[@lohostege]

Im current planning to either get the Moza R5, or the CSL DD. Leaning towards the CSL due to being upgradable in torque, and having a better wheel options

[@octaviolatalisa7949]

I play on Xbox with a Logitech G920.. and I want to upgrade to a better steering wheel.. I'm in doubt between Moza R3 and Thrustmaster TS-XW.. which is the best choice?

[@ineedvideoideasplease]

Can you review the PXN V12 DDS? I heard good things about it and and thought you could give it a try since people keep trash talking about them.

[@SamWaaijenbergGamingOnYT]

Where did you buy and customize those gloves?

[@CowBoyF1]

You post such high quality video I thought you fr had like 8 mil sub but you don’t, even tho you deserve it

[@OCRacing]

Aw thank you 🫶

[@apleaps]

Can you use any other Moza wheel with the DD wheel base on Xbox? Or does the wheel have to be Xbox compatible

[@kadasya]

Have you heard of PXN v99? Its PXN's new entry level steering wheel with FFB, can you please do a review of it? 🙏🏻

[@AngularHavok]

I have the T300RS GT and The brake is just ugh to put the least. I found a spring and backed off the conical brake mod and the spring helps transition into the "tip" of the brake mod. This gives the brake a nice progressive feel with it starting to get harder at around 82%. If you play Beamng I would suggest this over mine because the software could help with Beamngs FFB. Also my setting are 80 smoothing and 300 FFB when drifting and 240-270 for non Drifting.

[@Aygcgegduwabai]

Moza R3 or Pxn v12lite? Which is better and worth the price. Or t300rs. Kinda confuse what to buy. Fanatec and Cammus aren’t not in the option.

[@Usersf134ssk]

Same dilemna 😅 now the g293 also enteredmy list 😂

[@m4nc1n1]

R3 bundle or the R5 bundle for $60 more (on sale)?

[@legorulz2947]

Would this be an upgrade over a Thrustmaster TSXW Wheel Base , TLCM Pedals and Ferrari SF1000 and 599XX EVO 30 Wheels??

[@callmesxege1878]

Not worth it if that's your current setup, an upgrade would be an R5-R9 or a alpha mini

[@matthewholland-y3e]

would the es formula wheel work on the R3 on xbox?

[@yellow351mustang]

How does this compare to the Logitech G920 with only 2.2nm (and the death chatter that Logitech gear wheels are famous for)? I want to upgrade my G920 but cannot afford the better wheels. I have had my eye on the R3 as it seems like it would be better than my G920 and is reachable with my budget.

[@thewindrises1]

Can i buy only the wheel base?

[@dezznutz6217]

here in ph the r3 is just similarly priced with the logitech g923, the r3 being ₱22,995.00 and the g923 being ₱22,811.00 so which is the better value?

[@homedepotbrick]

r3 all the way, it's not even comparable to the g923, it just surpasses it in every way in terms of quality.

[@user-vk3dv3mi6h]

Hi OC, can i use gt neo steering wheel on the R3?

[@Alejandro-et7js]

Should I buy this or the Logitech g923?

[@PotatooChipz]

What makes me the most happy is that it has more ports than the R9, so you don't need to spend an extra $40 on a hub to connect the accessories. Obviously, OC Racing has a great grasp on how realistic anything should be for sim-racing. I am 100% sure this will take off more than the g923, g920, or g29. I hope that they release more upgrades for this wheelbase, because this could eliminate absolutely all competition for PC and now Xbox racers as well. This whole concept is so beginner friendly and it's amazing. Good job Moza!

[@Notaf1king]

You should review the PXN V10 PLEASE!!

[@moonmoon4188]

can you make a comparrisson of moza r3 and pxn v12 lite ?

[@Steve30x]

It has the same torque as my t300. I would love to buy that without the pedals though. I can use my TLCam pedals on pc via usb

[@mohdarbaaz4788]

There is no mention of "optional load cell brake" anywhere Did you mean official Moza LC or some aftermarket mod?

[@jochenkraus7016]

I was also wondering. The "Performance Kit" is just a more sophisticated spring and not an LC upgrade, correct?

[@OCRacing]

@@jochenkraus7016 Yup that's my mistake. The regular SR-P's (not the Lite) are the ones that have a loadcell. For the SR-P Lites, only the brake performance kit is available, which makes it better but still isn't a loadcell. The good thing is that the SR-P loadcell pedals would be able to plug into the back of this base and still be used on console. I got that confused when writing the script.

[@Burntoilcoffee]

Buying a "bundle" with pedals you need to replace before using it, makes no sense at all,

[@jochenkraus7016]

@Burntoilcoffee Unfortunately there seem to be no options to add an LC brake pedal or include the more expensive pedals. I think the same applies for the R5 bundle. Shouldn't be a big deal in their own online shops. Or it's like that to make people who want LC pedals consider the bigger bases.

[@Leon83858]

Isnt the wheel what unlocks xbox compatibility 🤔

[@helllsfull]

R3 bundle not working on Xbox X/S for F1 24 game anyone have any luck

[@noahh6032]

Might buy this when it comes out

[@OCRacing]

it came out earlier this week!

[@cookiemonster2189]

Hello good video , is the ks add on wheel any good on the r3 ? Thanks

[@OCRacing]

Hi, yes it’s okay. It’s not too heavy so I didn’t feel a big downgrade when it came to the force felt

[@Smlieyisback]

Can you use the ks wheel with the r3 wheelbase ?

[@OCRacing]

yes

[@caparzo5693]

does this mean, Thrustmaster T300Rs GT is better, in terms of value?

[@Vplis]

Hey! fantastic review, but what are your thoughts on fanatec being bought out by corsair and potentially increasing prices or cutting corners to maximize profit?

[@OCRacing]

Honestly, I don't think it's fair to assume that. At the end of the day, only time will tell what happens. Do I think it's for the better or for the worst? I honestly don't know.. I could make good points for both sides. Either way, what happens, happens.

[@giogamer4825]

​​@@OCRacingI feel the same. To much unknown at this moment and speculation. We will need to wait and see what the future brings. Im very curious as I have Fanatec gear and would like to know if I can throw it all away in a couple of years 😂

[@nokife]

probably gonna save for a r5 instead since i need my wheel to spin fast for drifting

[@jasonschaeffer3677]

What sub $500 racing cockpit is compatible with this?

[@brodylockwood14]

I just bought a next level racing 2.0 wheelstand for $329AUD, it can be upgraded to a full cockpit via the seat available. But it's a very strong stand and super heavy, I love it. Using it with a pc chair and there's a tray to sit your seat wheels in so you don't slide back.

[@RacingJDB17]

Would you recommend it for a sim racer who uses f1 and acc potentially upgrading from a t248 ? Thanks 👍

[@OCRacing]

Depends, are you on Xbox or PC?

[@RacingJDB17]

@@OCRacingI’m on Xbox

[@LV-racing]

@@RacingJDB17 hey i know i am not oc racing but i would go with the fanatec csl dd is has 5 nm and it comes in a lot of bundels hope i helped'

[@RacingJDB17]

@@LV-racing no worries , I’ll look into it thank you for your advice 😀

[@AllanFidlerMusic]

Does it work with ACC? Only reason I would buy this for Xbox.

[@mArvAlcao71]

sadly not, yet.

[@AllanFidlerMusic]

@mArvAlcao71 dang, I'm hoping they add it. That would be a huge win for this wheel bundle.

[@jname9368]

That's what I'm waiting for. ACC is the biggest sim racing game on xbox and it's not supported on a sim racing wheel for xbox? Very odd

[@AllanFidlerMusic]

@@jname9368 agree 110% I'm sure they'll get their stuff together and add it

[@savots3812]

What about compared to t300rs? Because where I live both are equal as price. (PC user only)

[@saiko953]

the r3 is weaker than t300rs so the only advantage is the r3 being a dd instead of belt driven

[@savots3812]

@saiko953 that's what I know, which is why I'm wondering really. Is DD worth the less power

[@maurilare]

Is the moza r5 bundle good for drifting and f1 racing?

[@chriswolf8980]

yes

[@maurilare]

​@@chriswolf8980 thx for the help

[@AcridWater]

6:19 why do you use the old ferrari 488 gt3 evo?

[@OCRacing]

makes better noises

[@AcridWater]

@@OCRacing haha ok

[@benldr]

I just want to be more comfortable and more competitive on xbox. Also to be able to drive without any assists on. I think this is a good start.

[@MISTER_FORRO997]

got a question!

[@TheCudiT]

That boy always got some clean pumas in the video

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

Logitech and thrustmaster will be dead outside of playstation after this release. As a canadian you're absolutely killing it with the discount codes btw. I saved hundreds and it is very much appreciated thank you.

[@THESHADOW97139]

Logitech yes .... 🤔thrustmaster, no

[@mightymushroom4980]

They won't if Moza can't settle something with Xbox and get most games working, ACC and F1 2024 and onwards are not going to work with the wheel

[@saiko953]

this wheel is weaker than tm t300rs

[@triggeredtiger9905]

I've recently borrowed a DFGT from a friend, and that kicked me into simracing. I've been looking at the market for quite some time now, and started to look this bundle. Would you guys recommend it as a 1st wheel? (I'd mainly use it for ETS2/ATS, AC, And *maybe* F1) Also, does someone know if the SHH Thorn shifter would be compatible with this bundle?

[@homedepotbrick]

this works as a first and for truck driving the r3 should be good for a beginner. what's *really* important is the fact moza is releasing an indicator and headlight stalk for moza wheels this year. they also sell a betical mount for trucks and have a truck wheel. moza *by far* is one of, if not the best wheel manufacturer for truck driving.

[@triggeredtiger9905]

@homedepotbrick thanks for the reply! One more question left: will the r3's power be enough when paired with the tsw? I've read that if I want to use the truck wheel, I should opt for at least the r5...

[@homedepotbrick]

@@triggeredtiger9905 R5 if you can afford it, R3 if you can't.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

The base looks like the X Box logo

[@LRSNRCNG309]

If they ever make just the wheelbase for purchase thats what ill go for. Until then thrustmaster all the way

[@poza9645]

is better than the csl dd of 8nm?

[@OCRacing]

No

[@poza9645]

@@OCRacing thankssss

[@EvilijoUK]

CSL DD R2R bundle cost 400 euro, add 35 euro Aliexpress Boost kit, and it's a no-brainer at 435Euro for twice the power.

[@OCRacing]

Yup interesting point. There’s of course other things to keep in mind such as the QR, the table clamp (which I don’t think the Fanatec comes with but I may be wrong, shipping, etc. Either way, I think this is a solid offering for Xbox users but the biggest leg up Fanatec has will be that boost kit and higher starting NM.

[@EvilijoUK]

You're right, I didn't realize R3 bundle comes with a clamp. We're spoiled for choice now, good time to be simracing 😅​@@OCRacing

[@Important_Doge]

does it work on f124

[@outdoorrumble2081]

From what I've heard, it isn't compatible with F124 yet

[@Plebbeb]

I think you really should have tested and reviewed this on an Xbox directly so you could answer the real questions - Will other wheels/pedal work with R3 on Xbox, whether the ffb is still as accurate on Xbox as it is on PC, how easy it is to modify the ffb settings on Xbox etc.. as I feel like the biggest buyers of this will be xbox players as PC players have many more options for similar prices, whereas Xbox doesn’t have many competitors

[@amoney11]

Who else is watching this when they already bought there moza r3

[@TwiceFTW]

Don’t need it I have a r9😂 but still watch your videos❤

[@OCRacing]

Appreciate you 🫶

[@Tynelia]

If they can get this down to 300-350, on sale for less than 300 it would be such a competitive and valid option for beginners who don't know if they would like the hobby or not

[@n9ne]

in europe this thing is €450 whilst the R5 bundle is €500 lmao what are these prices lol?!

[@valkiller1562]

@@n9ne Fanatec R2R Bundle is way cheaper in my country and it's not even on sale

[@thomasneit880]

Does it work in ACC?

[@greb576]

Not at the moment, though they are meant to be working on it. Think it is only AC as of now

[@SiumEdile]

Is the moza r3 compatibile with F1 24?

[@wpbadenhorst397]

Also want to know this before I complete my purchase.

[@SiumEdile]

@@wpbadenhorst397 yes, now the r3 is compatible with F1 24, idk about ACC

[@wpbadenhorst397]

@@SiumEdile just bought it 2 hours ago. Will be delivered tomorrow. Hope it will be much better than the PXN V9 I am using.

[@rani5752]

Do you think that its better or worse than the t300?

[@THESHADOW97139]

A bit worse for me, as well as on other reviews

[@jekaufo]

Ofc better

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@jekaufo Go see the other reviews, some point out the fact that the t300 gives more feeling than this base.... and that's normal, it is more powerful.

[@godfire6498]

8:32 bro forgot about the cammus c5

[@mightymushroom4980]

Doesn't work on console sadly

[@albey1816]

What they should have done in the first place is just release an XBox Compatible wheel, so that anyone on the Moza eco system can play on XBox using their own Wheelbase.

[@7eave1]

Does this feel better than the t300rs

[@OCRacing]

I can feel more refined detail from it. Bumps, road texture, kerbs and all of that are a lot more noticeable and realistic. The T300 can give more resistance though, it feels slightly more punchy than this.

[@THESHADOW97139]

no.

[@PJDobbs]

Lol. It looks like they just took the back off of the R5. I do love my R5 but I wish I picked up the R9 or 12. Might be a great starter for my son if he starts showing interest.

[@user-dd8lh8yw5o]

Looking to upgrade from a Logitech simagic or moza

[@OCRacing]

Depends, which Moza wheelbase are you interested in?

[@user-dd8lh8yw5o]

@@OCRacing the moza r9 and r5

[@mqt5]

Why did you feel the need to create another channel just for shorts? Why not use the main channel?

[@7eave1]

He may get dead subscribers from shorts

[@OCRacing]

On KZbin, what usually happens is that shorts viewers tend to only watch shorts, and long form watchers tend to only watch long form. As such, adding both to a single channel often leads to what’s called a “split viewership” which is terrible for a channel for many reasons. For example, imagine a short went viral and I gained 20k subscribers. It’s very likely that those 20k subs only care about my shorts and not long form videos, and as such, my long form videos get less views, a worse click through ratio on the subscribers feed, etc. There’s a lot more that I’m too lazy to explain but that’s the main idea. Hopefully that makes sense?

[@kennygo5053]

In xsx, I want to change my ts-xw to Moza R3. It is DD !

[@OCRacing]

Honestly I wouldn’t recommend that. The TS-XW is very compatible to this, and I remember it feeling more powerful too. The difference won’t be as noticeable as you’d expect

[@vali69]

Wait, the wheel is not made of synthetic leather and feels like one you'd get on a cheap 2000s car? Man and I was so excited about this wheel but this tiny detail kind of ruined it for me, so I'll just get the r5... Whenever that comes in stock at the europe vendor I'm gonna use cause most have expensive shipping.

[@Billgatespanther]

WAKE UP OC RACING POSTED!!!!

[@OCRacing]

AND GET THE CAMERA

[@Billgatespanther]

GET THE WHEEL

[@Phil_3491]

Dont see a reason to buy a 3nm DD. At least 5, preferably 8nm are required for a somewhat realistic feel when it comes to detail.

[@vsm1456]

it's 3.9Nm

[@chitose3146]

Moza R3 is not worth the price because it may be a direct drive wheel, but its FFB is only 3.9nm which is a little weak. Fanatec CSL DD Bundle and Cammus C5 are better than this while having little price differences with the Moza R3. The pedals of R3 aren't even loadcells, not to mention the CSL can be upgraded with a boost kit.

[@JuTakii]

if you already own a g920 this seems like a waste of money ngl

[@nxm_bops]

unga bunga new oc racing upload

[@alexalex5121]

CSL DD is $399 and infinitely better, as you mentioned, world of difference.

[@noahh6032]

Video is frozen at 9:28 and 10:25

[@OCRacing]

I don't have a problem in between those parts, that may just be you

[@noahh6032]

@@OCRacing weird, still does it for me after restarting my pc😶

[@n9ne]

taxes are a thing and the r5 is only $50 more. what the hell?

[@edcadlick2650]

We need a PlayStation bundle🤔🙋🍻👊👍

[@OCRacing]

That would be killer. Definitely can’t imagine that Sony licensing being cheap though 🫣

[@GridsportGaming3068]

it is for me I need it

[@Zillx7-q4x]

As a die hard fan of racing genre, My dream of becoming a racing driver will never be successful because of Indian Parents mentality, And the main part of it is that racing is quite expensive, So few months back i found out about Sim racing and all, I wanna enter Sim racing as its 1000x cheaper than the actual Motorsports but it still expensive, Im 18 y/o My main Sims are Assetto Corsa Competizone, Assetto Corsa and iRacing, Sometimes F1 23/24, I don't have enough money right now except I have a GTX 1650 laptop and a smart TV, I saved some money and that is just 34,500INR ($450).... Im going to University next year (i.e 4 years) Soooooooo, Coming to the main point Should i start sim racing from buying Logi G29/ T300 Alcantara right now and Save some money while im in UNI(4years+2years) and buy a Fully Sim racing rig after 6-7 years? Or i should just wait except buying a G29 and save that 30k($450) from buying g29 and just buy a fully sim rig (upto $1000)(moza only, cuz its the only sim racing brand avail in India) after 3 years????? I hope you reply A guidance is indeed for a good future .... Thank you

[@zdendas13]

The CSL DD Ready 2 Race definitely much better quality with much less flex. It has 5Nm upgradable to 8Nm. Upgradable pedals from Fanatec and also from 3DRAP. Also costs 40 euro less

[@THESHADOW97139]

The kit for PC and Xbox costs 479.85 dollars and it does not include the support to fix the motor base... so no, it is more expensive

[@zdendas13]

@@THESHADOW97139 I didn't say anything about Xbox. OC also wasn't playing with it on Xbox and most people buy R3 for PC

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@zdendas13 I know well 😉, but the problem is that r3 is compatible with PC and Xbox.... you have to compare it to a similar product.

[@zdendas13]

@@THESHADOW97139 Well then for 480euro It's still more worth it, bcs of the upgradability

[@06rcpcfhd93]

Just buy a used fanatec clubsport csw 2.5 wheel base

[@thanosreacts7977]

This is a strange review you played on PC not Xbox so you didn't test the compatibility of games is strange not one lmao

[@ispectate6462]

nice

[@invixity772]

w vid

[@OCRacing]

w comment as usual.

[@invixity772]

@@OCRacing w comment on w comment

[@mightymushroom4980]

£400 + £145 shipping to the UK 💀