Arsenal aren’t just getting contentious decisions against them, they are getting decisions that there is no precedent for. You’ll never see a red card for that Lewis-Skelly foul again, nor will you ever see a penalty given again for attempting to head the ball like Saliba did at Brighton.
@shannonrobertson99729 күн бұрын
Totally agree i just wonder why MrTears03 told me about this channel and told me to sub❤
@pearcegreatesteverleftback039 күн бұрын
@@MRT1601 Yeah you’ll never see innocuous ref decisions for other teams, it’s only ever Arsenal. Have a day off son.
@MRT16019 күн бұрын
@@pearcegreatesteverleftback03 innocuous decisions happen all the time, that’s not my point. These are decisions that have no precedent and are unlikely to be seen again. That’s why there is so much anger and a belief that the club is being unfairly treated
@pearcegreatesteverleftback039 күн бұрын
@@MRT1601 Why “The club”? Every team gets these decisions against them not just Cry baby’s Arsenal. Only last week we (Nffc) had awful ref decisions go against us but there was no social media outcry like there is every time an Arsenal player is booked.
@michaelgoode95559 күн бұрын
Or for the Trossard and Rice red cards. PGMOL is corrupt, end of.
@dan_b89829 күн бұрын
“There is no agenda against Arsenal. I mean, there is admittedly now a large body of evidence that suggests there is, but there isn’t. Because reasons.” Good process, guys.
@tyleru968 күн бұрын
lmao hilarious to see the mental gymnastics people are going through to try to argue there isn't, at the very least, something odd about the amount of awful decisions that go against Arsenal. Arsenal have played 17% of the season with 10 men. The league average is 5%. Just let that sink in.
@TruRedCRIME8 күн бұрын
why didnt you stupid league bottlers make this case regarding the corner vs spurs or havertz dive vs man utd? muppet.
@gary83uk9 күн бұрын
Really don't like Arsenal or their fans and though I hate to say it... it is getting a bit suspicious, Arsenal are getting shafted almost every game.
@larrytonge41049 күн бұрын
Come off it, it was a bit harsh, but they way everyone is going, arsenal player did cynically kick him down
@140rware9 күн бұрын
@@larrytonge4104 does kick him down mean trip him up. Your bias makes you look an idiot. We were done over last year at Newcastle and we complained, this is the negative revenge. It might be unconscious but it is statistically clear what is happening. Why does Richard Keys and Andy Gray have pictures of the ball in another post code when the pgmol say there wa no camera. That game cost us the league yet we have to have dickheads who will not even consider there is a problem.
@Lee-wd9ep9 күн бұрын
@larrytonge4104 the point is if you believe that's a straight red card how is the wolves one only a yellow? Exactly the same challenge with slight studs so explain to me the difference between them apart from it's arsenal once again 🤷
@arranmelaugh56069 күн бұрын
What about the fa cup game? The ref couldn’t of been more for Arsenal
@MRT16019 күн бұрын
@@larrytonge4104 no one is saying that it wasn’t cynical. But that is a yellow card in every single game of football ever played. A tactical foul. To call it serious foul play is nonsense.
@abiodunoni4209 күн бұрын
That's exactly how systemic issues are addressed. You continue to deny it exists in the hopes that it will go away.
@grizzd65869 күн бұрын
This is the problem. Despite all the evidence they take this view. Everyone know it.
@gerardb26279 күн бұрын
Exactly, grown men playing pretend. Even though they see with their eyes, their head is just too far up to speak the truth.
@davecummo87439 күн бұрын
Forget all the conspiracy theories. What if he doesn’t like Arsenal, even hate them. The evidence supports he has a problem with them
@TruRedCRIME8 күн бұрын
no league title in 20 years, whats there to hate?
@calsbike179 күн бұрын
Why is nobody talking about the fact that the Saudi owners of Man City pay Michael Oliver an insane amount of money to go over and referee games in the Middle East? How is that not a conflict of interest. There is corruption in broad daylight and I have no idea how football pundits as there job have no idea about this?
@KevinMannix-sf5zk9 күн бұрын
They work in the Media, they are all therefore Actors. paid to tell stories
@findingaether7 күн бұрын
I feel that as a compromise, we should allow Michael Oliver to continue refereeing in UAE. Just take him off PL games.
@timegan18849 күн бұрын
It's not just Arsenal fans that think those named in this clip are corrupt.
@thebaconface8 күн бұрын
"There's an increasing body of evidence that points to something happening however I'm just going to ignore all of that and say that thing isn't happening"
@UlriQ9 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I’ve tried to keep an objective head on my shoulders when it comes to the refereeing decisions that go against us. So for Instance I thought the Saliba red card against Bournemouth was justified (even though he wasn’t the last man). However what’s clear now is the lengths to which PGMOL are trying to reverse engineer the laws of the game to put Arsenal at a deficit. I’m glad yesterday people got to see this for what it really is. It was so ridiculous that even staunch Arsenal opponents have to admit it’s really suspicious now.
@rickigouldesbrough40199 күн бұрын
There is a growing sentiment among fans that the PGMOL is no longer acting impartially, with some accusing them of deliberate wrongdoing. In a sport with such vast financial stakes, these controversial decisions appear to go beyond mere mistakes, often seeming glaringly obvious. It is crucial for fans to unite and advocate for greater accountability and transparency to preserve the integrity of the game. While Arsenal may be the team currently impacted, it’s only a matter of time before another club faces similar issues.
@ThatGuyNorm9 күн бұрын
There is a agenda against Arsenal. This season proves it.
@MikailSweenichov9 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bottle Jobs 👍🏻
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
Why don't arsenal fans do something about it, instead of crying in the comments....get a petition, contact your MP, protest against the premier league...do something.
@ThatGuyNorm9 күн бұрын
@TheMercWithMouth I'd love to see your club continuously get these decisions and see how u react. Let's see how gracious you'll be about it.
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
@@ThatGuyNorm again still crying. All clubs have had bad decisions. You arsenal fans are just pissed because you're in phase 5 and have only won an fa cup...so now it's time to collect theories of conspiracy.
@ThatGuyNorm9 күн бұрын
@TheMercWithMouth grow up
@richardcahill12349 күн бұрын
If you think any organisation or individual is immune to corruption you either have your head in the sand or you are being deliberately disingenuous.
@MrEman19829 күн бұрын
Contradicted himself in 10 seconds lol. "I dont think thats the case of oliver + pgmol being corrupt BUT there's an increasing body of evidence " lol 😂
@colmd76809 күн бұрын
Its the unusal nature of the reds that raise eyebrows Martinelli booked twice in the same play. Trossard sent off after kicking a ball away. Not sending off Kovacic for the most obvious offences and then it claimed that he didnt want to ruin the game. And the Skelly for a foul that would never get a red anywhere else
@legendaltair27339 күн бұрын
On what basis can you say there is no agenda?? Isnt a ref was punished for his criticism on Klopp 2 months back.. Michael oliver is human and he has multiple decisions time after time and you want us to belive this dkhead is the unbiased and best ref in the world😊😊
@finnymack09489 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I don’t believe there is a conspiracy against Arsenal from the PGMOL. But I am sure there is Bias against Arsenal from certain officials. Especially Michael Oliver. We have seen it with David Coote. Why aren’t we asking these questions when Oliver has been paid (an exorbitant amount) by the city group to referee a tournament in Saudi. You can’t tell me that doesn’t make a difference in his decision making on the pitch. Kovacic foul last season on rice is a definite second yellow/ borderline straight red, the same Michael Oliver didn’t give it because he didn’t want to ruin the spectacle of the game…. No consistency and clear Bias…. Lewis Skelly challenge he couldn’t wait to give him a red….. was out of his pocket within 2 seconds… no time to think and analyse what he’s just seen. It’s happened too many times from Oliver and it needs to be called out!!!!
@WynMills19 күн бұрын
IT DOES MATTER! Arsenal lose a player for 3 games when they’re already short. How conveniently people forget the repercussions. But you can be sure Micheal Oliver knew what the knock-on effect would be.
@Cbart238 күн бұрын
The evidence is there. How many times have you seen Howard Webb in the stands and then magically yellow turns to red?
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
And when the camera shows him just after the foul, lifting his phone up and start using it shortly before VAR tells the ref to go to the monitor!
@NickQuigley-dp9so9 күн бұрын
I think you just need to look who was referring and look at all his controversial decisions he's involved with !!!
@leighsymons56198 күн бұрын
These two are as thick as two bricks.
@Sss-on2bv9 күн бұрын
Its best to just rescind the red car and not have Micheal Oliver officiate any arsenal games again. We know he has an agenda against arsenal but its just best for all parties concerned to move on from it quietly.
@DovaGeris9 күн бұрын
Follow the evidence, that's all
@kmst89 күн бұрын
Just for the purpose of trolling gunners, hmm wonder how many people think like that.
@amakky19899 күн бұрын
“Of course there isn’t” based on what you’re saying that? At least those “deluded” Arsenal fans back their claim by anomalies of decisions and the frequency in which that happens against them
@beefsuprem02419 күн бұрын
There's no conspiracy against Arsenal. But the PGMOL is definitely corrupt in the way it protects itself and referees mistakes. It's far too matey between VAR and the onfield ref, like and old boys club.
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
Yes well said...the sooner the pgmol is rebooted the better.
@rickydawson73889 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I will concede there is no PGMOL agenda against Arsenal. Rather, the situation is even worse. It is plain CORRUPTION by two or three referees. Why was it always Mike Dean, Michael Oliver or Kavenaugh who made crazy decisions against Arsenal? Also, if there is no PGMOL conspiracy, then why were those refs ALWAYS in charge of the games or VAR in Arsenal games (or games that affect Arsenal)? You guys say that Liverpool is too good, but Arsenal are 6 points behind - having dropped at least 6 points from bad refereeing decisions (by Oliver and Kavenaugh), this season. The rest of the deficit is bad management by Arteta. The defeats to Newcastle and Bournemouth were well-deserved by players and manager - no fault of the referees.
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
You mostly make sense but the victim mentality that only arsenal have had bad decisions is pathetic. It's when some arsenal fans think that only injuries affect Arsenal and no other team.
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
@@TheMercWithMouth And so the corruption will continue as other fans just can't leave the tribalism out of the issue.
@TheMercWithMouth8 күн бұрын
@@Crovon1 yes. Plus the majority decisions arsenal fans are moaning about have been subjective anyway.
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
@@TheMercWithMouth No they haven't. they have been objectively poor.
@SHEK1108 күн бұрын
it's getting harder to prove why there isnt an agenda against arsenal these days
@flynese9 күн бұрын
Not against arsenal nor liverpool but for City
@leemilner94189 күн бұрын
Nothing worse than the penalty given against utd against west ham. The standard of referees is appalling
@Gigity11078 күн бұрын
"Of course there's no conspiracy against them" then goes on to list all the incidents suggesting there might be one.
@innercircle3418 күн бұрын
Easy to say "of course" but when you look at the unprecedented decisions that go against Arsenal it makes you wonder I'm sure a lot of the incidents have been listed. There is a clear pattern of inconsistency and no one is taking accountability. They just say "get on with it and don't complain" But that is not a good enough response
@eyeonfrance7 күн бұрын
dont usually listen to this show, but Barry is sharing soe sensible thoughts on talk sport which makes a massive change- - nice to hear smart opinions, rather than pointless bear baiting-to provoke outrage-- great show lads !!
@DanielMuchai-y5y9 күн бұрын
So these pundits knew there were previous incidents which we called out but bantered us anyway....but now everyone saw yesterday how we've been feeling and they now have to accept coz it's now clear and too much
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
How about 'we just want refs that know the rules, apply them consistently and are not bent' - is that ok in a professional sport?
@chrismcglennon66659 күн бұрын
Blatant cheating
@itssimba96818 күн бұрын
So why don't we see these cards for other teams
@jonaaqua95808 күн бұрын
you can see the salt in these 2 idiots like most of the pundits on TV because its the norm
@dashcharger249 күн бұрын
I think it's the case when you take a lot of the evidence (pictures, games outside the PL, etc.).
@mikewright2939 күн бұрын
The evidence is clear and obvious arsenal are officiated differently no need for var
@danielamador43068 күн бұрын
Here are empirical facts about X argument. Commentators of course X is not true. 😂.
@ermericcarolissen6948 күн бұрын
How terrible a referee are you to have football fans accuse you of corruption?
@harryale9 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, there's an agenda.
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
The PGMOL obviously can't be corrupt, it just wouldn't happen here in the premier league. I'm sure that's what every fan and media in Italy thought about Juve and the refs as well.
@Jwasy8 күн бұрын
I’ve had enough of these old “experienced” refs. They’re dinosaurs that can’t deal with how the game is played today. It’s too finer margins to deal with big mistakes all the time. Pay a better salary and attract new young blood, that’s sharper and has a completely different profile to existing refs (e.g not arrogant without huge egos).
@justinevans32369 күн бұрын
The PGMOL uses VAR to fix matches. Stop with the deflection Talksport!! 😂😂😂
@manzsgoingin9 күн бұрын
its clear after arteta won the court case against the pgmol last season they all colluded together and agreed to not give us the rub of the green on any 50/50 calls and give us red cards for calls that can be deemed a red but no other team would ever get. Declan, Trossard, Saliba and now Lewis skelly reds cards you will not see another team get ever.
@craigharrington77458 күн бұрын
If you have to suggest at referee doesn’t officiate arsenal games you are proving there’s a problem. With the amount of charges against Man City how could you possible think that an agenda from the PGMOL would be out of the realms of possibility. The evidence is stacking up
@kingpooh64298 күн бұрын
Its noymt just Arsenal fans that think the PGMOL are corrupt
@ulfanfinneriksen46439 күн бұрын
Another pair of company men with some drivel. How lovely.
@toneldo188 күн бұрын
U guys keep saying there isn't an agenda but keeps happening and Arsenal keeps loosing vital points
@BeatRoot148 күн бұрын
need to investigate the referees if there are any links to gambling sites. Had it not been for these dubious decisions made against man arsenal in the man city and 2 Brighton games arsenal would most likely be top or level with liverpool.
@jamjam28339 күн бұрын
Got a corner against Spurs that shouldn’t have been and scored from it, perpetual moaners!
@wayneholness60909 күн бұрын
A corner? Happens all the time, defend properly
@jamjam28339 күн бұрын
@wayneholness6090 I think you need to read what I’ve written again.
@phileast16549 күн бұрын
Wrong corner decisions happen often and don't have var checks, arsenal fans are angry about decisions that have no precedent and are not seen afterwards. Yesterday they applied a completely different rule to that challenge and the ref was lightning fast to send him off and then var backed him up. That's not a mistake, it's applying different rules to something
@jamjam28339 күн бұрын
@@phileast1654 wrong decisions happen all the time!
@tyleru968 күн бұрын
Spurs got a corner that wasn't a corner in the same match. The difference? Arsenal can defend corners; Spurs can't.
@JBulla25399 күн бұрын
Why does Barry keep going on about this "conspiracy" theory arsenal fans, just focus on terrible officiating standards with zero consistency
@paulsaunders7689 күн бұрын
"It didnt matter because Arsenal won" - YES IT DID, because those 10 players had to do more work and covering in an already congested and tiring season. That decision may have ramifications down the road in causing tiredness and fitness issues. Bottom line - get the decisions correct, and then us Arsenal fans won't have cause to criticise or moan about conspiracy thoeries....
@KevinMannix-sf5zk9 күн бұрын
Its not anti Arsenal, its Pro Manchester, They will send off players so City/United play weakened teams
@rugbyanalyst19 күн бұрын
Maybe it's a campaign against Arsenal like the campaign against Chelsea under Mourinho...
@irietune19 күн бұрын
That is the case whether you yes or no
@TheJdh49 күн бұрын
It's the Piers Morgan effect.
@linkingfanztofootball82799 күн бұрын
Oliver 100% against arsenal
@carlosgk19 күн бұрын
Is the fact that Oliver gets paid to go to Saudi 20k per game he refs a conflict of interest with that leagues ties to Man city?
@Dystopi20349 күн бұрын
Pgmol are a joke worst reffs in the world
@rub1tan6798 күн бұрын
It looked red to me .. studs up as he made contact.. with a hacking motion 💯more than just a trip 🤷🏼♂️
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
a studs up challenge was made by a wolves player in the second half which was worse and was only given a yellow - how is that then?
@davidjames13778 күн бұрын
100% red card.
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
lol
@rLxJake9 күн бұрын
Hahahaha Arsenal fans trying to find anyone to blame but the LEGO man.
@screamboy89 күн бұрын
Do you always laugh at yourself ?
@rLxJake9 күн бұрын
@@screamboy8 No, but I always laugh at Arsenal fans 😂
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
Lego man did ok with saliba's miraculous recovery 🤔 More dark arts.
@mervynhogan78299 күн бұрын
If all the managers had of come out with klopp when Diaz goal Vs spurs and all fans stood up to this it could of changed but that did not happen now look how bad it got and it won't be fixed till this happens
@azeetaag9 күн бұрын
Barry is a miserable negative pundit 😊
@DaveRichards-q9l9 күн бұрын
Arsenal fans need to quickly realize that Micheal Oliver didn't spend £800m on injury prone clowns and Chelsea & City rejects to win nothing for 5 years running. That was your inexperienced manager getting paid £15m a year to learn on the job Mikel Arteta..
@screamboy89 күн бұрын
Worry about your own club
@kmst89 күн бұрын
Aye sure, but what Michael Oliver did do is send off their players for unprecedented incidents and continuous poor officiating that favours teams playing those guys. I thought these Arsenal fans were crazy but now it’s actually getting concerning with that ref.
@keletsosebolai37959 күн бұрын
Wait till the PGMOL fuvks your club
@DaveRichards-q9l8 күн бұрын
@@kmst8 How many EPL games have you refereed before chump to make you think that you know what you're talking about? Can i guess?
@Alexandr28k9 күн бұрын
Any Arsenal fan who claims the PGMOL is against them are deluded, but this Red card was the first one that was actually a dubious call for sure.
@malsmith16189 күн бұрын
They are saying Oliver is against them
@oscarsoderberg67599 күн бұрын
Every time Mancity Oliver refeeres our games there is ALWAYS dubious calls againts us. never for us, weird right?
@colmd76809 күн бұрын
It's Oliver that they are referring and a history of the most unusual decisions that he hasn't made elsewhere
@pearcegreatesteverleftback039 күн бұрын
Arsenal won and still moaning🤣🤣🤣
@Alexandr28k9 күн бұрын
Arsenal in a nutshell right there.
@dveryblueblood9 күн бұрын
When exactly , in this clip, did Arsenal FC moan or do you just like sounding idiotic?
@Huey-g8n9 күн бұрын
I’m not an Arsenal fan but even you have to realize that having a red card seriously affects a team down the line
@shameless7219 күн бұрын
You’re a thief of oxygen.
@pearcegreatesteverleftback039 күн бұрын
@@Huey-g8n Was a fringe player, will hardly play anyway
@renegadewarz10749 күн бұрын
Liverpool last year arsenal this year who next year
@michaelgoode95559 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the evidence proves that Oliver and PGMOL are corrupt and anti Arsenal. The facts speak for themselves. Oliver is a biased prick. It does matter though because MLS will kiss three games. That is 4 unjust red cards this season so far ... Why the striker BS? Arsenal score plenty of goals. Just because you idiots think Arsenal need a striker are simply stupid. Oh, I know: let's offer Peter Crouch a deal ... Be real. Any new player has to fit into Arsenal's system. Mbappe perhaps?
@TheMercWithMouth9 күн бұрын
So its only arsenal and no other team at all...😂😂😂 Oliver shouldn't have sent Gomes off then, if he's so anti arsenal.
@samrowley23659 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous, no one was saying this last year when liverpool had an onside goal given offside with VAR and didn’t get two pens against arsenal and city but a player that scapes his studs down someone’s calf when the balls gone is the PGMOL being against them? Arsenal have a horrendous disciplinary record because they don’t look at themselves, they just blame the referee every time they have a red card, it’s getting pathetic now!
@Crovon18 күн бұрын
your bias is clear
@samrowley23658 күн бұрын
@ delusional 😂
@alibabashero9 күн бұрын
Disgusting challenge. Was a red card. If Doherty's ankle was broken you wouldn't hear Arsenal fans complaining.
@matthewjennings58939 күн бұрын
No one likes arsenal but they arnt treated any differently
@screamboy89 күн бұрын
That don't make sense
@C.Cannon9 күн бұрын
Oxymoron
@mannyafcarsensl-rc6vv9 күн бұрын
There clearly is and people who disagree are sheep