Of the Strongbow & Dragon-helm | The Children of Húrin: Tolkien's First Age Explained - Part 5 of 13

[@girtbysea7831]

Tolkien's greatest story told by an incredibly passionate story tellier: Rainbow Dave, this series is fantastic

[@AlgorithmDG]

The Children of Hurín is good, shouldn't call it Tolkien's greatest story though!

[@tariqabdulkarim8724]

Hear hear

[@TheArthurkan]

Sister f****r

[@joseaustin2692]

Yes, indeed rainbow Dave definitely know how to tell a story and I love the background music behind it

[@schaney7891]

Amen!

[@GlenLake]

Watching your videos evokes the same feelings I had when I first read these stories, an awe and adoration of magical majesty.

[@czcrossman]

PS - The friendship & camaraderie between Turin & Beleg is SO awesome lol I would love a whole video just about the relationship between those two!!

[@BrianStorm742]

Was not expecting Andróg to get such a noble send-off. What a guy, that Tolkien.

[@Breidablik06]

Went from a dude I just wanted to stop being in the story at all, to a guy who I felt nothing but mad respect for in the end. This story is really friggin’ good.

[@Claego]

This was truly the first Helms Deep of Turin's story.

[@fishymacaroon6]

Never before have I clicked a notification so enthusiastically.

[@paulrhome6164]

I know the feeling. When I saw it, I remembered why I was excited that it was Friday.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

You know, when you read the Silmarillion version of this chapter it seems as if Túrin and his followers did not exceed 50 people and neither that they ever effectively controlled land beyond their headquarters. Really pleased to learn that Túrin´s efforts at this stage of his life proved quite fruitful (for a time) in the standalone novel version, thank you Dave : )

[@jeffreed3443]

This is so cool… the children of hurin is one of the best books of middle earth. I’m so happy it’s getting more and more recognition

[@chefitaly7339]

Agreed it was the first story that I read of the silmarillion when the book came out and I fell in love

[@AlejandroBetancourtweb]

What an awesome tale the children of Hurin is. And your mastery to tale it providing profund context allows me to revisit this tale once again with new knowledge and perspective. As I watched your video its clear that Tolkien warns his audience of two proverbial advises 1. Hate is always safe destructive. 2. Failure to unite against the true evil is what allowed Melkor to inflict so much pain and sorrow to all the peoples of middle earth. One can even argue that even the wisdom of Melian the Maiar fails to promote the union of all peoples against Melkor. A lesson that Gandalf brings to absolute relevance in the 3rd age. Thanks for this amazing series RD!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Awesome! Really interesting points!

[@masstrapper7645]

Ah I just love how Tolkien brings you to the brink of despair, and then suddenly in the deep dark there’s comes a light. Another Amazing episode. I truly enjoy your story telling abilities and can’t wait for the next video. Thanks👍👍

[@kellydavidson3379]

As a “forever fan” of the “the fundamentally fabulous and the flabbergastingly (?) fantastic Finrod Felagund” I approve of your alliteration. It provided needed distraction from my despair of Beleg’s impending doom (I tried to create my own alliteration with distraction, despair and doom, but it is 5 am in California and my brain is still sleeping … ). As usual, you provided stunningly superb storytelling, Rainbow Dave!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks very much!

[@jodifu6274]

It's hard not to cry when that happens with Beleg.

[@LordWombaticus]

You are THE definitive Tolkein whisperer, bro… …keep it up. It may seem like mere content creation, but you’re trailblazing HISTORY here. You’re so damn listenable!!! Thank you for illuminating the landscape of Tolkein’s world with your rainbow

[@rowenadesilva1787]

Only your wonderful story telling could keep me listening to such a harrowing tale! Thank you RD!

[@nickparatore9129]

This is my all-time favorite Channel in all the lands of KZbin. Thank you Rainbow Dave for all your hard work. Your channel is brilliant and epically entertaining.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks very much!

[@markodevaio6972]

I love how passionate you are when you're telling the story You make it feel like if we were there and seeing the events .. you're great ❤

[@georgepowelson5333]

You do the best analysis of the good professors work. I had a hard time waiting for this video, but great work requires patience. You do great work, I thank you for all your labor's and enjoy every minute of your work. Professor Dave of RainBellerland

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks very much!

[@DC-ps3kn]

Masterful again Dave. One hour of pure bliss. Thanks infinitely.

[@MellowMutts270]

I am absolutely loving this series! The Children of Hurin is such a roller coaster ride

[@czcrossman]

Dude I am LOVING this series! As someone who’s never read the books and mostly only knows what I learned from the Jackson films, this kind of early FA/SA history is freaking FASCINATING! Thank you for this, very well done! It’s clear that you put a lot of effort & thought & passion into this script. It is very much appreciated!!!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@wadebrowne5961]

Agreed. Loving your work Rainbow Dave!!! That said, If you love this story having seen only the movies; wait until you read the books. I have read a lot of Tolkien's Middle Earth story; and I am in love with Middle Earth. But I probably have at least as much as I've already read, left to read. No single author has EVER created such a deep, complex world as this. Groups of authors have created other complex fantastical or mythical worlds; but, as I said, no ONE person has devoted as much time and effort to their creation as has Tolkien. Not Martin, not Lewis, not Rowling. Sorry to ramble; but,I SWEAR, if the movies impressed you, you will love reading the books. Peace and love.

[@fred20097]

PS and I've read the lord of the rings and the hobbit many times. The other books are a bit boring because of the writing style. I never could get into those.

[@814TrumpArmy]

this is the best tolkien channel! and straight honestly! i love the rest but u gota good voice...good timeline pace....very detailed and everything u do is so needed! Keep up the great work rainbow dave! A name like that u think u were a hippie who smoked mad buds then i seee ya and i still think the same thing! But that is kewl I smoke mad buds as well! Keeep up the great work RAINBOW DAVE!

[@Dr_Cole]

Just fantastic storytelling and, yes, story crafting. Of course this is Tolkien’s work, but what parts you share, in what order, with which tangents and backstories and foreshadows, are what make your works so fantastic. Now that I’ve watched all of your previous works, whenever you drop a new video I find a period of uninterruptible time to ensure I get the full experience. The last 15 minutes of this episode were not just epic, but a near perfect cliff hanger given the steep walls of the summit! Thank you for taking the time to complete these ever-so passionately curated stories for your overjoyed fans.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks very much!

[@Dan-B]

I personally like the footnote version of Mîm’s betrayal story the best. It’s a middle ground between the telling of him straight up betraying the Gaurwaith and being captured by Orcs. It also makes sense with his character; being wrathful from the death of his son and not wanting harm to come to his last living son, and also why he’d choose his so over the lives of those that he has a vendetta against. Also since his curse on Andróg essentially and seemingly failed, this is a way to get his revenge and bring the curse on Andróg’s life to fruition.

[@markkettlewell7441]

I love the way you tell the stories @Rainbow Dave. You breathe life into Tolkien’s works like none other. I wait with baited breath for the next instalments but feeling sad that the story will end and there will be no more episodes to watch. Your scholarship and hard work is testament to your talent. Thank you 😅

[@nils52911]

Thanks for the upload! This series is fantastic. This is the one lotr channel to rule them all ❤

[@rjb10101]

Rainbow Dave does it again.... Top Man... You are a great narrator.

[@DeanMartin-de8jn]

I have been listening to the children of hurin read by Christopher Lee. I have also been reading the silmarillion for many years but that's reading and listening to a powerful and tragic story. We all use our imagination when hearing the children of hurin but it's great to listen to you breaking it down my friend. It's always important when reading this kind of tale to hear someone else's perspective. You have done this one very well Dave. Plus I have always liked Androg. His redemption at his death is often overlooked. 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@jodifu6274]

Christopher Lee is the perfect narrator for Tolkien, with Martin Shaw a close second.

[@DeanMartin-de8jn]

Martin shaw reads the silmarillion very well. To my shame I've stopped reading and just listen. Be screwed if the internet crashed 😆

[@Angrenost02]

Ah, thanks a lot for your storytelling. Poor Beleg. As he was lying bound and helpless and despaired to know Turin promised to terrible suffering, how could he have known the pain his own rescue attempt would inflict to his friend?

[@gutterpeach]

Spoilers noooo 😢 I want him to save Turin but I constantly forget this story does not have a happy ending.

[@jcook693]

glad to have you back, buddy, keep up the good work

[@ratiounkn3210]

Nice, can’t wait to watch this!

[@tombaynes8524]

Rainbow Dave, thank you for another amazing video!!! I really appreciate the alliteration in Finrod's name!! Keep up the amazing work!!

[@astridchladek1927]

Another video, another delight, another gift from Rainbow Dave! This is so well done, so wonderfully narrated, it’s such a pleasure to witness your passion and love for the lore! Thanks!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Very kind of you!

[@bityew]

Dave, you've done it! You've made me appreciate The Children Of Hurin! I have never before been able to stay interested in the story, even though I have read it a couple of times, trying to find my way to connect-but your series of videos has gripped me-is it possible? Could I try reading the story again and dare I say, enjoy it??? Thank you for all the insights and especially the details I had missed in my skepticism.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Awesome! I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

[@Enerdhil]

I've read the story a dozen times. It is never a fun, easy read.😞

[@cathycotton9635]

My God, you are such a marvelous storyteller! You had me figuratively on the edge of my seat, and also in tears at the end. Thank you so much for telling these stories and for telling them so well 💜

[@SpeakyDeak]

that hurt when you said we were done for today, i was lost in the story. next time then and thank you

[@tglrod]

Instant like, before even seeing the video. Looking forward for this chapter :D

[@angelulopez2648]

“If orca have dreams then surely Turin son of hurin is the stuff of their nightmares” So sick! 😁 Bad ass intro Rainbow Dave! And what a super sick video! Thank you for your work 🙏🏼

[@andrewlanham1372]

Always a good Friday when you upload my man! Aaabbbsolute LEGEND!

[@MJC1891]

Another masterpiece mr man of many colors.

[@veronicasiegfried2712]

You tell such a wonderful story with so much enthusiasm and mystery. I am really enjoying this! Thank you .💖

[@louisebrouillette5580]

When I saw there was a new chapter, I was so excited...I love your Turin videos!!

Thank you, Dave! ❤❤❤ I can't wait to get home to watch this!

[@hsheeld]

My day just got 100% better. I’ve been waiting for this one so much!!

[@sydnicopeland9030]

Was so happy to see this notification this morning.

[@justindaniels2230]

Dave you are an absolute jewel. Thank you for the amazing told story❤

[@kennethsatria6607]

Man I underestimated how good feeling the rest of Turin's story was. All this time I just kept skipping to the parts with Glaurung, but now I know this story would effortlessly make a solid trilogy like the Hobbit movies, albeit more of a tragedy story.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

Love your passion, Rainbow Dave! You do such justice to the drama of the tale 😃

[@mumbo-jumbo7917]

Simply the best

[@johnappleseed9546]

Best one so far Rainbow Dave, the beginning of this one was ur best storytelling IMO

[@jessewilliams9195]

Another incredible post. You are the man Rainbow Dave

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks!

[@Hands0ap]

Thank you for making these videos i really enjoy them

[@lyndazema94]

Thanks, RD! I had to spend a little time in the hospital last week for an emergency procedure, and your videos and Morgoths Ring helped me through it. So i was super excited to wake up this am and see this❤❤❤

[@tolkienuntangled]

I hope all is well!

[@lyndazema94]

@Tolkien Untangled thank you! Much better now, just need to r&r, and what better way than with you and Tolkien?!

[@roberthaynes488]

Such fantastic story telling. Thank you

[@anakinlapierre-tate4127]

Just got my copy of the silmarillion this week super excited to catch up with you

[@gutterpeach]

YESSSSS I HAVE BEEN CHECKING EVERY DAY I AM SO EXCITED

[@NuTfielDRobErT]

Another great video, absolutely loved it.

[@GryphonDes]

Another fantastic episode :D

[@missiejoy]

What a delight! I’ve so been looking forward to this update. Thank you!

[@tglrod]

Thanks for this. Excellent Video as always. Love to hear your insights about the story. This is tour best series yet.

[@golwenlothlindel]

44:36 this is one of those places where I think it is important to remember all of these stories are told *by a character in Middle Earth*. The Children of Húrin represents the story as compiled by Daeron, from Húrin's memory: Húrin is not exactly an unbiased narrator here, Mîm's treachery destroyed Túrin's life. Daeron isn't unbiased either: if nothing else, the collapse of Dor Cuarthol made Doriath less safe. But people who lived in Dor Cuarthol might well have known more about Mîm's betrayal than Húrin shared with Daeron (let's be clear, Húrin *did* know he wasn't being totally truthful but it's pretty understandable why he'd try to damn Mîm's memory). Either they survived the battle, or they were elves reborn after the War of Wrath: when Manwendil Parmaitë is compiling the Quenta Silmarillion (the latest decision by Tolkien was that this document was a Númenorean creation). Mîm himself is long since dead, so nobody can prove which version of his motivations is the full truth. The accounts are not so conflicting however, that they can't simply be chalked up to three differently biased narrators.

[@LamiaBrahmi14]

This was such a treat. I love your passion. I sometimes zone out listening to podcasts but you hold my attention all the way through. Thank you 😊

[@derubain5774]

Awesome, thanks for sharing your gift Rainbow Dave

[@tapunyr8526]

Absolutely engrossing Dave. Wonderful as always. Thank you for all the hard work you do making your videos

[@RJ420NL]

I'm enjoying this series. Thank you.

[@mrs.manrique7411]

Mim: Goes to gather roots. Son is captured. Mim’s hatred for Androg, Beleg and the Orcs gets mixed up, since his love for his sons guides him. He gets the orcs to release him and his son with his promises, returns to “collect roots” at a later date with an intent toward betrayal, and the rest happens as stated. Ibun’s death is an interesting scenario to speculate about.

[@kieranmorris175]

Had to wake up early for work and was ready to be not happy about it but then I saw that the latest installment of this week’s obsession was uploaded out of the blue when I thought I’d have to wait who knows how long. Now I’m ready for the day. Thank you Dave and thank you Ilúvatar!

[@eudorius]

Thank you for this. Great work ❤

[@LordTelperion]

Morgoth’s “ring” is the whole planet Earth itself, not just Beleriand. Ironically Fëanor’s rebellion against the gods kept Morgoth’s attention and energy focused on the northwest, preventing his ultimate highjacking of Arda from out under the Valar’s feet.

[@ludicrousfunone5705]

5:32. This reminds me of what Edward Longshank's (the First)'s castles around Wales were referred to as the iron ring!!!

[@alanmike6883]

I really love the effort you Go into these Mellon Dave 😊

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks!

[@ddavidjeremy]

Then said Androg, "I don't want to go on the cart, I feel happy, I feel happy!"

[@ianheins650]

Nice work dude

[@Sandbarfight]

Amazing work friend!!! Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to Tolkien. You really care about giving us the listeners amazing stories.

[@nathanreetz]

Love your storytelling! Long time subscriber. Huge Phan of yours! peace!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks!

[@jodifu6274]

Woohoo! It's here! The weeks between these videos are long, but worth the wait.

[@jodifu6274]

Meaning only that the anticipation makes time drag.

[@EOwens-uq4zd]

Man, this really puts into perspective just how young Turin was when he accomplished everything be did. Such a good story!

[@Cheddarcheesemonkey]

Well done, Dave of Many Colors

[@spencerlandreth5746]

Great essays! Well composed.

[@bgb0072]

Well done my friend!

[@itayshorek6872]

so good! can`t thank you enough

[@totaruf1516]

Can’t wait to watch this, u literally made my week❤️❤️

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thank you very much!

[@tarynolyvia]

It’s finally here!!!

[@DHTC888]

O MY GODDDDD thanx Rainbow Dave!!! 🌈💙💛❤🤍

[@mihajlo7835]

would like to point out that the first age is the longest age and began with the awekening of the elves

[@tolkienuntangled]

We’re told it is the longest Age, but we’re never given a date of when exactly it began.

[@mihajlo7835]

@@tolkienuntangled sure but it should at least be said that it is the longest age and not the shortest loved the video

[@tolkienuntangled]

@@mihajlo7835 thanks! And you’re absolutely right, Tolkien definitely did state that the First Age is the longest. But the calendar can be confusing, in that Year 1 of the First Age is only about 590 years before the very end of the First Age. But as you know there’s an awful lot of First Age that happened before the Year 1.

[@Enerdhil]

The first Age was the first time the Valar started counting time. Who knows how long it was from the time the Valar appeared and the Awakening of the Elves. Another point. The Nature of Middle Earth tells us that each Valarian year is much longer than we all had assumed based on all the other published writings. Galadriel might even be close to 19000 years old. Personally, I like the smaller number for converting those years to lunar or solar years.

[@IanHeins]

Nice work dude thanks

[@davidhermans4002]

Well done David of Many Colours! No more need be said.

[@Enerdhil]

That was a great point about Ibun. I totally forgot about him. 😂🤣😅

[@justintheking1]

Comment for the algorithm!

[@egoborder3203]

your storytelling makes me feel like I would stand against a Balrog!

[@keiranjarrett9691]

Rainbow Dave has the passion for narration when it comes to tolkien. I can't wait until you do Tuor's story in the fall of Gondolin or king Dior.

[@Paul_W_222]

The last stand of the Gaurwaith amidst the red flowers on the hill, and everything that happened there . . . the friendship, the betrayal, the redemption. This is incredibly powerful. I've heard a lot of people say that Tolkien's characters and stories are black and white with nothing in between. They don't know this story.

[@amadahn1029]

Fantastic

[@gutterpeach]

Hi Rainbow Dave! Just wondering what other videos you’ll be making for this Silmarillion series? How much are you going to cover? I’m very excited and hopeful to learn about the entire history of Middle Earth and Arda from you because I find your enthusiasm, opinions and genuine love for the entirety of the Legendarium contagious; I cannot listen to any other creators on this. I’m sold on your channel and videos and very soon I’ll have watched every single video! Thank you if you reply 😊

[@tolkienuntangled]

After Children of Húrin I’ll do a shorter series about the Silmaril of Doriath, and then longer one on the rise and fall of Gondolin, and then finally the Voyages of Earendil and the War of Wrath to finish off the First Age.

[@gutterpeach]

@@tolkienuntangled that’s so exciting!!! Will you go into the second age as well? I’m so excited for more of your content.

[@tolkienuntangled]

@@gutterpeach with enough time, I’d like to go through the entire history of Middle-earth in chronological order. All the way up to the end times. But it will probably be quite a while before I get to late Third Age things like Rohan and the Stewards of Gondor. 😊

[@thegreatrudolffo3398]

Thank you Dave🙏

[@sdazzle2460]

Epic. Helping out the algorithm with comments.

[@stoneylrobertson]

Yea!! New video!!

[@WhoIsCalli]

Great stuff, thanks 🌈 Dave

[@tolkienuntangled]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BigBWolf90]

Andróg is kind of a proto-Boromir in that he can act and do questionable things (from our perspective) but in the end he shows the kind of man he is deep down with an epicly honorable last stand and final act of kindness. Where Boromir tells Aragorn first of "the little ones" being taken Andróg thinks "I can't save my friend but I know who can" then entrusts Beleg with the task

[@berginkulenovic3995]

Awesome!😊

[@christophershefford4849]

This videos are absolutely wonderful 😊. Any plans to turn them into podcasts?

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks! Maybe one day.

[@nickparatore9129]

Awesome

[@starsapphire156]

Always love your videos and enthusiasm! Little confused by the first section referencing Morgoth's Ring though. I thought Morgoth did this more as Melkor during the Battle of the Powers at the Foundation of Arda. I can totally imagine him continuing to do this to Beleriand but I thought by this point he concentrated his will more on his own creatures. Do you have a reference specifically for Beleriand and corrupting the lands of his enemies? The only thing I remember is the destruction of Beleriand caused by the War of Wrath which is partly caused by him needed to be fought physically because of the terrible grip he now had on the physical realm (but was also caused by the might of the Valar's host.)