Off road recovery fail. We didn't make it

We attempted to recover the rig from the search and rescue mission, but ran into problems. Our biggest issue was the weather. It was a very strange mix of being below freezing temperatures, but also raining, while in 4' of snow. The snow was soaking up the rain and becoming very heavy, then freezing as it packed into the tracks. It started to cause issues with the sprockets slipping and we had to keep stopping to dig out the tracks. We probably COULD have made it, but with no second vehicle for support, and no chance of the other vehicle being able to make it out even if we did reach it, we decided to play if safe and turn back. We are currently working on a new plan.
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[@firehydrant315]

Thank you for being honest enough to post the jobs you have to walk away from. Huge respect.

[@AC-rf1ud]

Definitely the right move. I’ve been driving 4x4’s since I was 10 years old and my dad owned a large ranch. I’m 66 now and I learned early on that you’ve got to know when to stop. I live in Montana and conditions like that are a recipe for disaster. Very wise to keep survival gear with you and even wiser to not have to use it! Good call!

[@sirlawrenceofwisconsin479]

I wouldn’t consider part 1 a fail. Yes the customer’s truck is still out there but you did rescue the customer and that matters most.

[@TheScoundrel70]

I'd call that a tactical withdrawal, rather than a fail. Rain on top of deep snow is the worst of all snow conditions to deal with. On a positive note, it will make for a decent, hard base when it gets cold again and freezes, provided the rain soaks down enough that you don't just break though. Drone footage was amazing! Great to know your steering woes were resolved too. What you have learned from all this will pay off big time going forward. Looking forward to your SUCCESSFUL third try!

[@CaseyLaDelle]

Yeah we're planning a round three this weekend after the temperatures fall back down well below freezing. Once it started raining while we were out that deep it was time to turn around and bail

[@dhgdarkness3744]

@@CaseyLaDelle snow cat mission?

[@edwinhsingmaster9135]

Good remarks. May I add that when you got to customers vehicle, then the temperature dropped below freezing, before you got out. You now know your vehicle limits, good call! Kudos on the drone!!

[@jarrisuvada5256]

Absolutely solidly put.

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

"He that fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." In your case, "He that drives and turns around lives to drive another day." Tactical withdrawal is a great description and very accurate:-)

[@kellycunningham4230]

Good call on the turn around. I appreciate that you don’t just show when things go perfect. It is also great to see real world experience with these tracks.

[@dccheek7495]

Casey you are never a failure ! You are an incredible young man and a one in a million today that is willing to go the extra mile to help others . Many times out of your own pocket with no pay .

[@earlharrell7750]

My Day used to say, "A MAN has to know his limitations"! I think that was a very wise move Casey! Kudos for giving it a try. Earl Harrell.

[@juanmckelvey]

Discretion is the better part of valor. You did the right thing, obviously.

[@tellmemorethx]

Everyone is alive.... the car isn't going anywhere.... no fail. Stay safe.

[@thatrallycarguy]

And upload from Cascade rescue! Hell yeah!!!! That jeep you made is awesome bro just something else

[@craigbarres648]

Love hearing your responses to all the Monday morning quarterbacks out there who probably have no idea what you actually do and what the real-world constraints are on you. Keep doing what you do and making the great video content.

[@loose-arrow-garage]

You've made the right call Casey. No need to risk it for a vehicle. If all else fails that truck will still be there after the spring thaw!

[@JB-zh7bw]

Excellent drone shots! Really shows a whole different perspective. Keep up the awesome work Casey, you are really putting together some quality content.

[@OpieDogie]

Better to eat the humble pie and turn back than keep going and wish you had! 100% good call

[@ScottBennettMusic]

Stumbled upon this channel…and immediately addicted :) love it. And can’t wait for the final outcome on getting that stranded 80 series back off the mountain. Loved my triple locked 100 series, but wouldn’t dream of taking it up there. Anyway, shout out from Michigan.

[@gmwPaul]

Success not failure! Knowing when to turn around is Success. Living to fight another day is success.

[@garyjennyfrost9485]

Excellent drone footage of your rig and the area! That was some amazing snow to look at as well. Looking forward to seeing the resolution to this one.

[@makattak88]

Honesty and practicality make for good decisions.

[@thomasmoser7382]

like the customer said, even your zj with tracks is up to the diffs in the snow. that means the axles of the customers rig would be under the snow for the whole trip back and you would have to tow it out for miles wich would be a nightmare in these conditions.

[@petecrabtree6734]

In these two videos you've learned a lot. One how much gas tracks use and what heavy wet snow does. It's answered a lot of my questions about tracks. Thank you for the videos 🦅🇺🇸💪😁👍

[@sharonmiller6436]

Just wait until you his solution!

[@AGuyandHisProjects]

Playing it safe with just a little risk, keeps it entertaining! Good call, will watch part 3 later lol

[@brendanmcgowan508]

This video was extremely informative. I've been wondering about the limits of these tracks in snow. I think this is a reasonable limit to where you'd need a snowcat.

[@DrSoftShoo]

Good call. The conditions you found on this trip show just how dire the situation was about to become if the first trip didn't get him out of there.

[@mikec6831]

Good move! Best tool you have is the one you consistently demonstrate in your videos, your common sense.

[@bohhica1]

I bet that big green 4 wheel skidder is possibly coming to mind , smart move in turning around. Thanks for sharing.👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@The_Upside9123]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@endofunk2174]

Not an average problem for "a day in the office". Beautiful scenery; but certainly nothing you want to get stuck in. Time to phone a friend.

[@masunshine2970]

I'm glad you guys turned around. My heart was pounding like crazy watching you guys go through that deep snow.

[@Bryanja81]

Much better to be safe than sorry. You had nothing to apologize for. Gotta be smart in situations like that.

[@cozfpv591]

Cool to see a recovery channel in Oregon. I'm over in Eugene and have often thought this area needs an offroad recover guy. I'll keep you in mind when out that way.

[@iffykidmn8170]

Had opportunity to put Casey's recovery wisdom to practice this morning, While driving home from a night of plowing doing 15-20 under the speed limit as the roads where still not good on a 6 lane outer city loop I spied a 1/2 ton pickup trying to pull a SUV from a ditch. I am thinking I am in a F350 with plow 90gal of diesel in the back along with 500lbs of sand for ballast I should have the weight advantage, 2-30' snatch straps and Amber strobe lights. I wished them good luck and safety as I kept driving home and went to bed.

[@richardthomas1743]

Absolutely this is not a fail by any means. With the conditions that you are dealing with you made the right decision. You are out and safe and returning home at the end of the day , this is a HUGE WIN in my book.. Thumbs UP to you Casey. I am glad that I came across your channel the other day. I have some catching up to do..

[@mediocreman2]

By definition it's literally a failure. The problem is people have somehow decided that failure in life isn't okay. It's absolutely okay and a normal part of progressing in life. If you're not failing at something, it's because you're not doing anything to challenge yourself. This guy is willing to take risks in the real world (and post it publicly) and that means there's always a chance of failure. We need more people like him.

[@jays106]

@@mediocreman2 exactly!! very well said

[@CaseysOffRoadRecovery]

Having done SAR for years you are the priority. Backup vehicles are always a good idea, bit not always available. You will want the snowcat back for these deep snow conditions. Keep it real. Be safe. Love the vid, maybe think about ram assist steering with good cooler for those tracks. We jave a cow calf pair stranded in conditions like this. Dreading going after them.

[@davidclemens1578]

In earlier videos he shows driving with the standard steering system and it was hard to steer. Then he put in a ram assist with a pump and it worked fine until this first recovery and it was overheating. In the beginning of this video he said he had just replaced those parts. And it looks like that took care of the steering problem.

[@TK-cl1jm]

Did you get 'em?

[@rattles3044]

GOOD CALL And for all the critics out there........ Back off for a bit...... Cassey has already gone thru the thought process before ya-all and plans ! And there is always a learning curve ! Would like to meet ya some day Cassey ! 👀 🤔 👍🏻

[@Denusa]

Casey you absolutely made the right call. I live in deep snow country of Colorado so knowing when to turn around is often life or death. When the tracks were caked up with deep wet snow it was the right time to retreat. THEN I saw that the differential was dragging through the snow I was concerned that maybe on the way out you had a very good chance of running out of momentum and getting permanently stuck! For those viewers who not used to deep snow... when a vehicle gets buried in sand, mud or snow up to the frame of vehicle all the extra friction of the undercarriage can easily grind a vehicle to a stop and then getting again is almost impossible without another vehicle or a winch.

[@TexanMechanicus]

Now I want to build a clone of your jeep and back you up, Casey. You're the man.

[@danellis800]

It was not a fail rescue you rescued human beings that's the number one thing you're a good man

[@phillip.9524]

The answers to all the key board experts are perfect. I would love to see what they have in their vehicles? Riley’s drone work once again great. Foot note in Australia the diesel 80 series have 38 US gallon fuel tanks.

[@sandralutz-rodriguez2864]

That is soooooooo much snow! Super impressed how well the Jeep and tracks handled that super heavy snow. clearly you had to check how much snow there was to see if the extraction would even be feasible. Better safe than sorry. Easier to go back later than stuck now. So glad you found Matt on rescue 1. #2 was not a fail, it was attempt. Hopefully the 3. time will be the charm for the rig. Your video was awesome. So neat to see the drone footage. Bud Nixon's snowcat is a beast. that would be a rad collaboration.

[@grundyb]

It’s not a fail! Everyone is not hurt and only the truck is sitting up there waiting for the recovery. No one else can get up there but you and maybe your friend with the snow cat. Good luck!

[@coleroth6980]

You are smart. You know equipment. Use your gut. Great job!

[@joedavies940]

Good call - looking forward to Part 3 -

[@slowridefpv9668]

Wonder if part 3 will include mounting a plow on the front?

[@allanbegg0818]

Wise decision. Better to be safe than sorry. Andi, it's a good excuse to come back with bigger equipment. Round 3 should be quite interesting.

[@CaseyLaDelle]

Round three is being planned as we speak

[@jamessharp9709]

@@CaseyLaDelle this will be awesome round 3 here we come glad your feeling bit better too casey

[@bbur75]

@@CaseyLaDelle kick ass

[@TheTubeTube2]

@@bbur75 Just make sure it isn’t your own ass!

[@steedblackman1615]

The way I see it there's no such thing as a Fail when you don't let your pride get in the way of doing the right thing. That's the true definition of a Winner. 💪👍👏

[@Quacks0]

Love the drone footage of the gorgeous peaceful pristine forest :D

[@irench]

Dang! This just makes me want to know how the Bombi would do compared. Even if you made it the remaining 7 how the.. NO... not worth the broke parts and the possible risk to your life. Dude will have to wait till spring I bet now. The forecast is for a huge winter this year. Sure hope he's got AllState and was prepared for Mayhem.

[@YYCRCFabricationz]

Smart move to turn back & the Jeep looked seriously cool making the run!

[@SeeCrum]

SMART! It’s always hard to battle summit fever, but it’s always smart to turn back if you need to.

[@rvirnig8469]

Never a fail when you learn something and are still alive. Bless you for trying.

[@garybarry4446]

Glad you are there to help those guys out that get stuck off-road

[@davidclemens1578]

Casey you know your limits. That was a good decision. I wondered even if you got there how would you get the vehicle out through that deep snow. Which got me to thinking and it seems far-fetched but I wonder if someone could fabricate a sled that a vehicle could actually be put on and sled out of these areas. It would have to have Runners on the bottom to keep it tracking straight. it could be made out of aluminum with two rails for the wheels to sit on and cross rails to connect them much like your Dolly system. Someone could start out building a small one for sleds and four-wheelers as a test bed . Sometimes good products start out with crazy ideas. But with your Fab skills maybe you could think of something. Think dog sled. Small rails, High weight capacity.

[@3xceIIent]

Sounds heavy

[@danedwards3015]

If Casey gets a call from an Insurance Company, he charges a Recovery Fee. If Individuals call him for a recovery….he doesn’t Charge them anything. Please keep this in mind. He striving for His KZbin Channel to Offset those recovery cost’s. He’s an Outstanding Young Man!

[@kenmatthews6476]

You did right calling the rescue. Very smart.

[@aheike35]

You and Bud together is going to be a cool vid. Pretty sure I've unknowingly learned Russian watching him over the years lol.

[@CaseyLaDelle]

He's a super cool dude!

[@debwoods6011]

My God i think what you do is awesome. Thank you. I'm in Texas. But, can just feel the desperation someone must feel in that scenario. Bless you

[@donniesnyder7752]

What you need is a small snowcat that's got a blade on the front God bless you for what you do and keep safe

[@jayesouthworth]

You were smart to turn around - no doubt about it.

[@thesojourningpoetoffroad4171]

I remember seeing several track systems with a ski type appendage in the front of the front tracks to direct and pack DEEP SNOW. This might help the Jeep in those conditions.

[@shannonp4037]

I saw that at the beginning of and throughout Santa Clause Is Coming To Town (I think).

[@jays106]

it wouldnt work the jeep is 4x4 and needs all 4 wheels so to speak pulling

[@thesojourningpoetoffroad4171]

@@jays106 I wasn’t inferring replacing the track with a ski…only a ski like tip in FRONT of the track to pack and track the snow.

[@chuckster6513]

Hey Casey Do you have a link to the maker of your track system ? I would like to know a bit more about them. I think turning around as you did was a wise decision. You are having some great learning experiences with this type of track system. Stay Warm, Be Safe

[@CaseyLaDelle]

American Track Truck

[@woodrowwilliams1812]

It’s great to see how in-tune you are with what your equipment is doing. It’s truly an extension of yourself, kind of like Ironman.

[@rogermontee8264]

Good idea to turn around .Better safe than getting stuck . At least the you and the customer is safe. Thanks for sharing.☺️☺️☺️👍👍👍👍

[@nerdgarage]

Beautiful drone shots !

[@byronwhitney665]

Great video. What beautiful scenery. I don’t even remotely consider this a fail. You made a great attempt. And made the right decision based on the situational circumstances. What about Matt? (MORR) He has a snow cat. I know he is in another state, 100’s of miles away, but this might be a good opportunity to put all of this equipment to its test. Maybe you could build a sled or skies for the vehicle you have to tow out. Or fabricate a light weight snow plow to cut the snow down to a manageable height on the way back. Recovery of this vehicle is now going to be a major task/project. A couple of snow mobiles will be very useful. They can provide extra supplies. A do a full recognizance to the vehicle. Of course there is always the spring thaw. Great spirited attempt. Even better decision making. Seems like the new steering pump and cooler solved the previous issue. 👍

[@bbur75]

Thats what I was thinking a lightweight V plow just to pack it down less deep not really plowing.

[@marchmckinlay6796]

A safe withdrawal was better then not being able to get back out. Keep up the good work.

[@edmc1000]

Best to live another day. I could never walk out that far as an old guy . Good call.

[@Tjay0716]

Still Amazing how good that thing is in snow!😮. You guys got a real dump! We did as well here in Calgary, Alberta.. Cool stuff keep up the good work!

[@ve2cii]

I would suggest installing a plate, something like a hub cap over the inside of the track where the snow is piling up to keep the snow out. Perhaps a plate that could be bolted on. It would need some thought, but I am sure you can come up with something.

[@wvello2265]

Your videos are waaaay better than anything …… !! God speed!

[@Homeboy174]

I sure do like Matt's off road and I know he does snow rescues but I'm from ny and absolutely love watching you do snow rescues or at least attempt them. Keep um coming

[@weisserth]

Spring is around the corner. Just wait until the snow melts and try again. :)

[@CaseyLaDelle]

That won't be until mid April up there

[@LG-rescues]

@@CaseyLaDelle Well that might have to be the "price of stupidity" he has to pay!! GREAT WORK ANYWAY!!!! 👍 👌

[@306-fromthestix]

There's always spring time 🤣

[@intrigue175175]

Love seeing the ZJ platform out there kickin ass.

[@SumterWrecker]

Mr Casey Glad you were able to get the customer. Thanks for sharing and stay safe.

[@justinjdavis79]

I think it was the smart decision to turn around!! That is some crazy weather up there!! Can't wait for the next video!! Stay safe yall!!

[@gayle4804]

I wouldn't call it a fail I would be calling it very smart smart definitely not available you both have your lives

[@garrydurfey9700]

Seems like good decision making and not allowing egos get in the way. Sure glad you are safe. That little girl needs a daddy like you

[@carbonio28]

If anybody failed here was that person for taking the chance of getting stuck.and he did..you are a hero period 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 stay safe out there man 🙂🙂

[@SpoonierMilk]

Casey I have a set of dominator XL's on my 1999 cherokee limited. My best tip for turning is to give it more gas and to turn at speed. Otherwise turning at slow speeds puts a lot of strain on the steering. If the snow is packed down enough I like to have the tracks be sliding a bit when I go into a turn. You'll instantly feel how much easier it is to move the wheel.

[@SC-yx6wr]

Awesome vid! Btw, the old-skool Sno Cats, which your trac-jeep is modeled from, have full sheet metal covers over the bogie and sprocket drives to prevent the problem you encountered. Also, your small diameter leading front idlers tend to dig in instead of ramping up and over, which is not so bad in powder, impossible in mashed potatoes snow. The Bombardier-type twin track machines position the leading idler or sprocket up high to reduce the digging effect. You really hit the limit of your technology and made a very wise call. Never want to have to rescue a rescuer. Very interesting to watch.

[@ziggystardink9389]

i wonder if he retrofit covers on his tracks to help with the snow packing up on the wheels?

[@SC-yx6wr]

@@ziggystardink9389 Could work, but snow might also accumulate through the track cutout windows. Or perhaps if the tracks had larger internal snow clearing lugs like snomobiles do. When the snow is that wet and packable, not much you can do. Add a little slush, and you're not going anywhere.

[@Eddie07S]

@@SC-yx6wr Tucker made a snow cat just as you described. The tread holder was made without cutouts, so snow won’t pack in. I remember these from the ‘60 when I skied a a little place in central northern NY called Snow Ridge. They got something like 200” of snow a year being in the snow belt off Lake Ontario. I found a cool video showing the same basic cat... kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4GZc4GdiJqjiac. I think Casey said in an earlier video he had a Tucker, so he probably knows about these, but he said that he went this way with the Jeep for the versatility.

[@sharonmiller6436]

@@ziggystardink9389 nope 🙂

[@sharonmiller6436]

@@Eddie07S I skied Snow Ridge back then too . . . last time we made the drive down there it was closed. so sad we were.

[@jamesmeredith381]

You made the right call! It's not a fail, a fail would be to continue on and something goes wrong that could put you and your customer in a dangerous situation!

[@destinytriplett4542]

Love the drone shots of the woods. We do live in a beautiful state.

[@cynthiaramp7440]

Smart move 🐱 Good luck 🤞

[@roberthallam6824]

I enjoy your videos a lot ! Nothing wrong with turning around ! If I had a nickle for every time I did, I'd be rich !

[@douglasburnside]

I wonder how many people got stuck out on that road, they saw your tracks and figured, "Well, that guy made it, I bet I can too."😀

[@benkanobe7500]

The drone footage was amazing!!!!!!!!

[@heidilear7222]

It’s all fun and games until you have to eat your friends!

[@ElectricDanielBoone]

Great work out there Casey! Smart to turn around! He may have to wait until spring to recover his rig. Your drone shots were fantastic! Did you put in a stock steering pump or an upgrade?

[@stevenphelps7929]

Man that snow truck is awesome!

[@dandahermitseals5582]

My tracks are Kimpex solid block design and doesn't have snow coming through it. Less build up and better flotation. They basically run on top.

[@arthurpage3175]

I do wonder what the long term durability of the track system will be. Can anyone tell you what is most likely to fail in service so that you can at least consider what spares to carry if field repairs are possible. Its a wonderful tool but is it robust enough?

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

Right. All good points and questions!!! Probably because of the tracks but it pulled up on the sidebar the KZbin channel Ambition Strikes and this guy Riley and his wife Courtney, built their OWN tracks for a Jeep! They bought an Off Road Jeep while they lived in California and built tracks for it cuz they're moving to Idaho and I'm wondering how the similarity is between the tracks if the guy totally designed them himself green scratch, or if you know he just designed it off ones like these and I wondered about breaking down you know they say "An overstressed structure has way of relieving itself but wouldn't you really rather do it yourself?":-) that's supposed to be the number one rule of engineering according to science fiction writer Dean Ing, author of a great post testing novel Pulling Through.

[@lifelinefabllc]

Rubber tracks are possibly the most unreliable thing on the planet. Neat and fun but I wouldn't ever trust my life or a customers life to them.

[@yungdolphin9130]

@@lifelinefabllc they are getting much better and just the fact that this guy is in Reverse pulling it because I put the lot more attention on the tracks and he's pulling a full size truck with a trailer they must be pretty strong

[@Eddie07S]

The tracks on Casey’s Jeep are made commercially. Anyone can buy them. Casey has a video of his trip to buy them. They are novel so they easily become the focus of the “how reliable are they” questions. But, anyone who drives a car knows how unreliable every part is on them. The computers fail, transmissions fail, axials break. With tires aired down, they can pop off the bead. Any one of these things can leave someone stranded. This is why things need to be maintained and inspected before being used, then, as Casey explains, have a contingency plan if something does break when on a job.

[@lifelinefabllc]

@@yungdolphin9130 how many miles in wet snow did he make it before they were useless? What if you were 20 miles in the Backcountry and it warmed up. Kind of like what happened two nights ago? I have been around rubber tracks in commercial and ag use for a long time. They are not reliable.

[@tayzonday]

Do they make gigantic diesel snowmobiles? Might be ideal for this type of work. (Or maybe a swarm of ten electric snowmobile drones that can all pull one tow cable.)

[@CaseyLaDelle]

In this case, the snowcat that I had would have been ideal, but I sold it to buy the track kit for the Jeep. Overall the Jeep on tracks is far better for the work I need to do with it, but every once in awhile job like this pops up where a snowcat would be the way to go

[@tommarshall8110]

"So what ever happened to Tay Zonday?" "I hear he's busy watching snow rescue videos" :D

[@OverKillPlusOne]

Yah, PistenBully 600 ;) if you have to,ask how much $$ for it, you can’t afford it :)

[@ckm-mkc]

@@OverKillPlusOne Since they are in Oregon, a Tucker is a much better choice....

[@kendrajones984]

Two things 1- Great video scenes and good decision on turning around. 2- Surprised there were no snowmobile tracks. In Wisconsin there would be many tracks up, down, and across a road like that with fresh snow on it.

[@srm8866]

Wow, super awesome and intense video to watch. Especially for an ole southern boy like me from South Texas - where the only snow we see is on videos like this.

[@schmojo33]

Any chance you can fabricate some snow deflectors or something to keep the snow from packing into key areas of the tracks to the point where they would compromise the tracks? Maybe a bracket clamp that bolts to both sides of the differential on the axle that has wings/deflectors that cut through snow and channels or blocks enough of the snow away just so it can't get so packed? This is great content by the way. Lookin forward to the continuation of this.

[@shannonp4037]

I commented a bumper plow. Something low and wide with a "V" that incorporates into the bumper and winch.

[@schmojo33]

@@shannonp4037 I wondered about a plow controlled by the winch as well but I wasn't sure if it would get in the way of driving out there for approach angles even at full height or get in the way of the winch for some angles on recoveries even if dropped down. If incorporated into the bumper, I don't know if it would be low enough to do the job but high enough to not smack a rock or stump.

[@billbergquist4722]

Looks like a job for a big plow, blower, or springtime.

[@U.s-epa]

I recently got into 4x4 here in Oregon. Have adventured my entire life but never really got a real 4x4 and have been loving it. Great watching your local videos!

[@joshgarcia7148]

BudNixon is awesome! Great shoutout. Between the two of you, you could have some great times :)

[@nickpanda9322]

Why don’t you build kind of like wheel covers but for the tracks so that you don’t have snow getting in there.

[@ThatKiltedGuyDIY]

I live in Colorado and I would’ve done the same thing. You Gotta know when to fold them sometimes. Hey, did you shoot that drone footage yourself while steering with your knee? I have a KZbin channel and I have had to do that before. Or did your customer fly it?

[@AviationNut]

Autopilot feature.

[@nkill6]

You gotta know when to fold'em" is almost a Colorado mountain safety must ive been on a few rescues that only happened because the person we were rescuing didn't know when to turn the fuck back

[@AaronHarper]

@@nkill6 Rule number 1. Don't become a victim.

[@nkill6]

@@AaronHarper im Colorado through and through aways proactive never the victim

[@AaronHarper]

@@nkill6 Montana, living in Colorado, Same.

[@roysutherland9729]

That was a Tactical Withdrawal. And a GOOD call.

[@SeanFillner]

So one of the failures that is common with these snowmobile track kits is what you were pointing out when you were clearing the tracks out. In deep snow they get packed and lift the tracks up enough so that your drive sprockets slip (if you rewatch the video when you were turning around you can see them skipping inside the tracks). Eventually this leads to a total failure where the vehicle won't move. We camped with a friend who had a set of the snowmobile track setups. In the morning when we went to leave he tried to pull out but the tracks froze and the drive sprockets on the tracks got ripped off. 4 new tracks for 2400 bucks at a snowmobile shop and 3 days worth of work in 5+ feet of snow and we got him out. Was a huge nightmare and we learned a valuable lesson as well. I am glad you turned around. Looking forward to the snowcat rescue mission to get his rig.