Off The Record: Do You Regret Getting Your Degree? (ft. Geo Kwan)

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• Commentary by: Geo Kwan, Kalyne Lionheart, Bart Kwan, Nick Dunn, Can Nguyen
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[@TaliaX99]

FINALLY. I missed Geo.

[@bound6172]

She’s been on recently. Fake ah fan 😂😂

[@TaliaX99]

@@bound6172oooo sorry I’ve been WORKING

[@mufasta8322]

Funny exchange Lol

[@bound6172]

@@TaliaX99 Yeah i Work and go to school but I watch every video so whats your point?

[@ybnalex9628]

@@bound6172people got shit other than KZbin bro idk why you even seemed pressed

[@Auto209]

Barts takeaway from college was really wise as well. I didn’t realize it but completing trade school did that for me.

[@hyoyeonsliver]

this episode was really insightful for me. i graduate high school in 2 months and i’m so lost on what i wanna do with my life let alone picking uni degrees. thanks for opening up the lens jk fam 🤍

[@GabeItchess]

exactly why i clicked i alr knew they had some good advice in this

[@aaronkim1289]

I went to college for engineering and I definitely don't have any regrets in getting my degree. Of course there were some classes that I thought was a waste of time, but overall I learned how to problem solve in a methodical way. That probably came with my work experience as well, but I feel that the coursework definitely taught me how to zoom out and look at a problem as a whole and not to focus on small individual parts. I've been able to apply that in my current work as well as my life so far. I also got to join a fraternity and have all sorts of fun, and while it was expensive, it was definitely a fun and huge learning experience part of my life.

[@xijinping9576]

I did engineering too. Don't regret it. However, I'm mostly doing spreadsheets and paperwork

[@michaelphilip1]

One the best advice about college I learned after I graduated. “Major on something that will get you a job. Minor in something you love.” And do what Mark Cuban did. Take everything in your first and second year so you’ll just be cruising on your 3rd and 4th year.

[@fellyf89]

If you lawyered it, you lawed it 😂

[@vatallyn]

Thank you for highlighting trade school, not enough people talk about it. Especially as Asians, trade school is often frowned upon for being “2 years” when it’s more purposeful in terms of information

[@bobbyw1074]

I would say the most important thing is to have that mentor growing up. I never had one and I was so lost. I didn’t know what to prepare for what to do in college and post college. I ended up so behind. Lack of motivation and procrastination is a consequence of that. So find a good mentor it could be a friends older bro or sis an older cousin an uncle.

[@jk4115]

agreed w bart, college is all about the journey and not the goal, you always have to plan your next move and how to get there in the time span u set for yourself. school is always about looking at the macro, especially if u struggle to see the point of it in the moment like nick

[@CristineTot]

I have mixed feelings about my degree. I'm a Nursing graduate but never got to practice it due to my father dying suddenly. I had to take over the family business and had to take care of my sick mother and younger brother. I don't exactly regret my degree but in retrospect, I wish I took a different course. At least, I would have been better prepared going into business. Boy, the mistakes I made...smh. Plus, some subjects in college courses are useless honestly. It's just another way for the university to make more money. Nursing course but we had subjects like History, Literature, and First Year Christian Formation (It was a Jesuit school so yeah, religion is a big thing).

[@bethnichols2875]

Condolences on your father's passing. Sorry your mother is ill. Thank you sincerely for helping care for her and your younger brother. I know it isn't an easy thing to do. When I cared for my mom; she had MS; it was a learn as I go experience. Now I care for my father with his health issues. Perhaps the nursing degree and the skills/knowledge you learned from your studies helps with your caring for your mother in her time of illness. I wonder if you would be able to still take some business courses if you are still in need of help in that area of your life. In any case, I hope all will be well for you and your family, and remember to take time for you as well.

[@Hasdfgh12321]

I have stutters and I actively avoid time sensitive specialty for this reason 😂, i had a mandatory ER rotation in my intership year and that was rough

[@MetsGiantsRangersfan]

I grew up as a jehovah's Witness where they preach the fact searching for higher education is not worth it. It didn't hit me that I should have prepared for college until senior year of high school.

[@MelissaJetzt]

My degrees are in chemistry and physics. I am not in either of those fields today, so sure, the content ended up being mostly irrelevant. But the way you learn to think is also something important you get out of it. And, frankly, because I did it, it proves to people that I’m more than capable. Which is kind of sad, but sometimes necessary.

[@rybo510]

I hope everyone reading this is doing well. I truly wish you a happy life. Eta....it will pass. Xoxo

[@bethnichols2875]

Hope you are doing well too. And may you have more good days vs not so good ones.

[@rybo510]

@@bethnichols2875 I appreciate that! Stay you.

[@s0meguy09]

I hope you get a lot of likes. that's the reason for this post right?

[@rybo510]

@@s0meguy09 no I just hope the best for people. Including you. 😢

[@bethnichols2875]

@@s0meguy09 It is because sometimes people realize that others may be having a not so great day, yet when they are randomly scrolling through the comments they will come across a feel good and encouraging message such a rybo posted and it will help brighten their day.

[@Calida]

Lots of great advice and insights here!

[@hiroglyphix]

I thought university/college in the Philippines was useful when I got to my major subjects but there’s all these filler subjects that I thought were so useless that didn’t relate to my degree at all. (Business management major) And I agree with Nick, some subjects or classes were awesome bc the professor was passionate but you can really tell who’s there just going through the motions and just picking up a paycheck If I had any regret, I did wish I went to a better university abroad (even if I did go to the big 4 in PH) but couldn’t bc of family reasons

[@pandabear-gc7zs]

Shoutout sa Rizal na subject 😂

[@Tu51ndBl4d3]

why abroad?

[@MetalGearMk3]

history was useless to my major. They make use take all these useless filler subjects smh.

[@monicabrsgooglemail]

I knew what I needed to do as a job, rather than what i wanted. Moved countries to get my degree. Before that I teaveld for 3 years. Travelling is a great experience to figure out who you are.

[@gabriel624gag]

As a union Carpenter apprentice at 20 years old, theres alot of money to be had in the trades where you dont need a college degree. I’ve got journeyman mentors who are making 90k+ a year here in Wisconsin (probably higher in different areas where COL is higher) with no degree. Whenever i get the chance to talk to high school kids i always tell them some careers NEED a college degree which is worth it. If you dont know what your doing at all and still going to college, DONT. Get a job, look around and figure it out before you decide if college is worth it. Definitely not worth accruing debt for no reason. Do it for a reason.

[@Kuroganemk2]

I think college is very inconsistent and people put in too many useless classes that waste your time. This doesn't mean that it is useless just that you have to pay attention what you get.

[@MaiWonders]

thank you for posting this! im a student and this really helped me reflect about my last few years!

[@Alex-yz5ok]

I think another point that Bart was kinda insinuating is that the networking done in college for various different reasons is another plus of it although you can of course do that in a non college way

[@laalah143]

The Geo and Nick dynamic of this video makes me so happy lol

[@gaganjot7485]

Super insightful segment loved every second of this video 🔥

[@bethnichols2875]

Good discussion with valuable advice.

[@nadiahsyazwani]

All throughout secondary school to sixth form all the subjects I (and everyone in the school) learnt were sciencey stuff, like cause it was literally and specifically a science institution. And I know I had potential for it but I just didn’t like it like everyone else in my batch. Ended up flopping my A Levels. Went to a polytechnic school instead. Took a Higher National Diploma in Digital Media. Studied it for 3 years. Loved it. Graduated. Now I’m in Uni on my 2nd year of doing an undergraduate degree BSc(Hons) in Creative Multimedia! So far i like it very much. It’s pretty hands-on quite similar like when i was studying in polytechnic

[@Nickylilbitofeverything]

So happy to see people talking positively about college 👏🏼

[@marcelcjr9313]

I pretty much make the average household income in California solely because of my degree. I definitely think it was worth it.

[@RanKumara-xb1iw]

What was your degree?

[@marcelcjr9313]

@@RanKumara-xb1iw I have two. One degree in kinesiology and another in Physical Therapy. I didn’t really need the first one but due to my situation and not planning, needed it.

[@taoist32]

@@marcelcjr9313They overlap, and are better than what used to be the requirement for getting into PT school. In the 90’s I was studying for my kinesiology and psych degree. For PT school they only required a BA. Now it can be a BS in any science.

[@marcelcjr9313]

@@taoist32 I’m not a Physical Therapist but a PTA (physical therapist assistant) but make good money because I work in home health. I make around $7,200 a month at 23 years old.

[@Octobre1986]

I do not regret my studies although it was a risk choice and it weakened me. The ability to solve problems is needed at a university, especially when you leave your home for the first time, and this is very exciting. When you are lucky you get a teacher who challenges you to think and has discussions with you. Unfortunately, my university was an extention for my high school, a lot of repetition and testing. However, I had some insight into this system. Now I don't know if I would study again.

[@hOtneO]

During the pandemic lockdown, and some offices were going ahead with permanent remote work and not renewing their lease, I foresaw the inevitable business decision to just lay people off, and have the remote work done by somebody in Asia doing it for cheap. And now with AI, they don't even need to do that. So it's hard to say what is going to happen in the future, but I've seen patterns that repeat itself over and over for many decades. Certain popular TV shows would spawn a whole new generation of doctors, lawyers, and they would all be graduating and competing against each other for the same jobs, and now it's the same thing with computer coders and those jobs can be done from anywhere, they don't have to be in the office anymore. So having said all that, there is some return to the humble prestige of working with your hands and serving the local community in trade schools. And in the last few years of lockdowns, and to meet California's need for more housing, while everyone else was in lockdown, these tall new apartments sprung up like almost overnight because I haven't driven by in years. So those who stuck with it in the training years ago, are now making as much if not more than their white collar counterparts of the same age. I just can't say the same will be true for computer based work, you're gambling a lot of time and money, and there's all these people who already graduated and has work experience ahead of you and thousands got laid off this year. Those are the people who will get rehired first not those who just got out of school. I remember watching the news that there was a 2 block line or more of people wanting to work this union job of fixing elevators and escalators. In the trade unions they really look out for each other, and in the tech world, just know that it's really hard, people get fired so easily and most of it is contract based work.

[@hOtneO]

What Bart was talking about top colleges and their roster of students now is kind of how people's personal love life fails because one person wasn't upfront with their expectations. Like a hot girl dumps a guy after a handful of dates because he wasn't at the level she wanted, and now you see these colleges just reject the 4.5 GPA students but accept a 3.8 GPA because they actually formed a business and is already successful. Now from the college admissions perspective, taking this student in will elevate the prestige of the college and the college is riding the coattails of this innovator. For the Boomers, it was the opposite, a bunch of wishful thinkers promising greatness who haven't done anything, and then after they get in, they chill and have frat parties and go to Spring Break at Daytona Beach, and graduate into mediocrity doing middle management for the rest of their life. Gone are those days of just bullshitting your way in, high GPA isn't enough, you need to show that you created a real company that is a disrupter in the industry. From the college's perspective, they get to charge insane tuition because now students from all over want to go to the same school that Zuckerberg created Facebook, etc. The type of business networks that can only be made if you go there. And these colleges are basically launchpads for the next multibillion dollar IPO with the kind of think tanks they have and the resources available. The main takeaway here is, it used to be in your parents day, that you went to college so you could be a millionaire, and now you have students who are millionaires forming a business to go to college so they can become billionaires! It's freaking wild.

[@ChengHooSew]

Anything that is learned will not be useless. You just need to know how and when to use it.

[@aifywn]

I think the issue with college is that it's just so broad. Like you can be a biology major, but there's so many different careers paths that stem from it that requires a lot more specific knowledge. AND remember that these are mostly 17 year olds deciding what they want to do for the rest of their lives. The fact that colleges STRESS the fact that you must pick a major as soon as possible feels like you're just rushing into something that you really don't know much about. But besides that, the (away-from-home) college experience is something irreplaceable.

[@21ventura]

I like what they had to say. A lot of young people nowadays are so against college saying we don’t need it. I wouldn’t be where I’m at right now if it wasn’t for college. Sure some people are able to succeed without a college degree but that doesn’t happen to everyone

[@lanicantu3400]

Hearing bart talk made me realize that I learned the same thing from college! Great episode!

[@cokeandcake]

I was halfway through my sophomore year of college when I dropped out. Honestly, I used to be upset that I didn't finish college, but I have a manager type position in a well known company and I'm the only one out of my peers without a degree. We all get paid the same and do the same job. College really depends on what you plan on doing in your career and in most cases you don't need it.

[@alona123ist]

College only give you 2 things. Find information, research. And learn how to think on your own. Actually use your brain to think! And you must train your brain 🧠. It's actually a muscle.

[@justindumaxd3310]

Great episode

[@Oredroc]

ME!!!! I'M AN ELECTRIAN!!!! Been in the trade for about 3 years (Apprenticeship Currently). Went from dropping out of college, did real estate (hated it), networked and found to love the trade. Love the shoutout!!! Thanks guys!!

[@slugtothechest]

Didn’t Nick say that he had to juggle balls for his college professor?😂😂

[@thatonedude1107]

He did, and he also said he didn’t show up or he failed on purpose I think because it was a waste of time

[@lilyu9006]

I got a degree in a field that is not related to what I do at all. It requires me to go to grad school and towards my 3rd year i got anxiety thinking about grad school. Did I regret college and the loans I have to pay back? Not at all. I joined organizations and got my first paying job on campus. The experience and people I met in the org actually had a large role in helping shape who I am today. Also dorming and having that community life is something I would not be able to buy with money in the real world. Like Geo said, everyone's the same age, in the same place in life, and honestly there's soo much to experience that you wont be able to once you step into the "real world." Even 10 years later I still keep in touch with my dormmates, friends from the org, and folks I networked with. Fortunately I didnt have a bad dorming experience so I can say it was one of the best experience in my life and I'm glad I did that instead of commuting. Get involved in campus life!

[@crownofjoy2615]

“If you say another thing that’s not really mean😂” NICK 2023

[@alona123ist]

Yo guys if you write ✍️ it ! It's written.😂

[@GYSMelanie5]

Within my own family, one of my older sisters has so many degrees and hasn't used not one, so I'm a big trade school person as well.

[@bennethbugna7795]

During and after highschool I didn't really know what I wanted to major. My parents suggested architect, but I didn't want to until I was convinced to take civil engineering. A year later I didn't like it, so I took multimedia arts. I took it for 2 years, but I lost interest when i reached animation. Next I took cinematography. I enjoyed scriptwriting, but the filming part was exhausting and people kept talking down this type of craft which was very demotivating. Lastly I took international business and graduated. Now I'm an accountant and it's been two years now. Have I discovered what I really want to do in life? Nope. Far from it, and I'm already 30 yrs old. I still feel lost and not sure what I want till today which is kinda sad imo.

[@jamayil11]

McD's free french fry day. Stop working boys! Get yo nuggies and fries.🙏

[@kiarademoner]

Everydays goes to skoos to be da good boys 😂

[@anthonyknotts]

I wish i had gone to a trade school. People make you feel like college is the next move after high school. I did one year of Jr college and that shii was a waste honestly

[@MartyD]

Yes, because of debt and unemployment 😅😢😂

[@FiveSubj3x6]

Woohoo!!

[@Auto209]

Really solid takes on college. Especially the bearded fellow

[@bethnichols2875]

That would be Ryan. He is multi-talented in the things he is able to do and still wants to accomplish.

[@tonytonystache]

I took engineering and now I’m an engineer. University was an absolute must for my particular job.

[@damnphoreal7389]

Damn y’all had an event at Stanford

[@lil_rata6994]

omg nick talking first 😮😮😮 we love development ❤💕

[@fosterrob44]

Love Geo

[@lovelyylife]

Nicks so funnnnnny

[@user-vk5kj4dy9t]

lot of times its about what makes money and if you have aptitude and ability to do that career.

[@nebbbship]

Unfortunately, college won't always be there soon enough

[@CrazyLikeChris]

I have a political science degree. After my first year i knew i was wasting my time. But had to do it for my parents. I know work as a creator manager so for me kinda a waste

[@user-ut3nn1ey7h]

hello jkn, no editing for degree or no degree - stream through the experience with military and in pasedena - wanted to go to straight to work just do not theory - open questions - did not want to college and waste of time - there were three roads after the fun HS senior year - so the cool three options: 1) go to college pay or no pay (from with money or scholarship) 2) go straight to work - to start your own business one day 3) beg your parents to be their slave until they die and own the house that is theirs elle for university fraternity parties is fun

[@kylehenricksen3217]

Nick looks jacked in the thumbnail

[@otakunodojo7461]

we're reaching 2mil ‼️ lezzzgooo 🔥🔥

[@kenderly-labissiere3028]

HELPP: I really REALLY wish this video came out like 5 years ago when i started college for Acting. I did it because its my passion and everyone was telling me i couldn’t/shouldn’t do it. Its a blessing and a curse because I became the best version of myself and continue that path of becoming better every year. The curse is really the debt and the scholarships i had were lower than the school expenses. I’m currently in my last 2 semesters, should I stop right now or keep going this expensive path?

[@Roy-ml5fn]

Seems like it depends on your financial situation. But even then, I feel like because you’re doing something you’re passionate about you’ll find a way to make it work out. You’ve already made it this far so you might as well get that degree! So if you really believe that you’re bettering yourself and you’re passionate about what you’re doing then the debt should be worth it. The last thing you probably want to do is regret not pursuing what you truly wanted to do and letting others make decisions for you. I hope this helps and good luck on whatever decision you make! You got this 🙌🏽

[@kenderly-labissiere3028]

@@Roy-ml5fn Thank you, this truly means a lot!

[@HoopsNNature]

de gree 😂

[@MetalGearMk3]

I never completed College, no regrets here. College is not for everyone.

[@chaotic_raisin]

real talk, an emt or any emergency communication you need to be able to communicate wtf that stutter could have led to much worse

[@CuongChanster]

College should be more like trade schools. Sometimes don't need all the other classes

[@GamingGioPlays]

3:29 lol geo is the best

[@ncpalafox]

need to have a degree to be in my career period. no ragrets

[@briangonzalez9824]

🔥

[@Superstuffed]

I don't k ow if I agree with the film school take. Cuz if I were to buy my gear I wouldn't know what to do with it. I didn't know what I wanted to do and school showed all the different options there are and what you can focus on. Let's say someone bought gear but they want to be a producer, that gear isn't gonna help them be a producer or if they wanted to be a writer. That's an example where school would be good.

[@reondable]

nick says everything but nothing at the same time 😂😂😂😂

[@kshinokevin]

Thought Leaders are Visionaries, Innovators, (Opinion) Shapers

[@God-ec8ni]

do gender studies and african history its in right now you can have a good career after you graduate just be active on activism you can create an org to gather money

[@lerrojcv3987]

😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅

[@-amosc.presley-7192]

Regret having my Degree? Not, at all

[@raybutrang7249]

I have a kinesiology degree as well. Worthless. My 5 trades I got were better time spent

[@Kuroganemk2]

21:30 I think that advice is very risky. What usually ends up happening is the person not being able to get both done because it's too much work and failing, it could cause a person to flunk out.

[@bethnichols2875]

That would be why Can said "If you can manage to do both". The "if" is the key word.

[@kshinokevin]

"What Do You Wanna Be, When You Grow Up ?" after High School, in America, there were like 3 Options, right: 1.) Continue going to School, either to a (cheaper priced) Junior/Community College, a Trade/Vocational School (auto mechanic, diesel, airplane pilot, marine, or HVAC, carpentry, plumbing, electrical, electronics, cosmetology) or a 4 Year (more expensive) University: public or private. the Study Abroad (foreign exchange) program sounds cool. 2.) Find a Job (internship/externship): usually an Entry Level type (Fast Food restaurants, or a Carnival; a temporary Summer Job), but now, there is no such thing as Job Security: people are forced to have either 2 or 3 Jobs. if not, one could do Volunteer Work (Peace Corps). 3.) Joining the Military : armed forces reserves; Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, Special Forces/Ops. It is helpful to seek a Guidance Counselor, early on and get info., on how to get Financial Aid, if you really need it, if you don't have a honors program/sports scholarship: Student Debt (it is based on how long, that you want to go to school: Associate's degree (junior college); Bachelor's, Master's, Ph.D's, or a Doctorate degree.) it is like trying to do any Bodybuilding program or a Martial Arts type (karate, kung fu, jiujutsu, tae kwon do, sumo, judo, BJJ, aikido, jeet June do, hapkido; silat, Kali, escrima; krav maga; (Cambodia, Lao or (Muay Thai) kick boxing). it helps to have Goals, set Priorities, develop Time Management skills; Yes: All People learn things Differently.

[@bethnichols2875]

One of my cousins had originally gone to college and earned a business degree. Then she turned around and told her parents she wanted to go to cosmetology school and become a hairdresser instead. My aunt said they would pay for it provided my cousin gives her free haircuts for the rest of her life.

[@kshinokevin]

@@bethnichols2875 Genius ! a Beautician

[@HaroldBalls777]

Colleges spit out way too many graduates with useless college degree + degrees that are low wage degrees - but yet still charge them tuition that is way out of scale from what is costs vs what they earn. In my honest opinion - it should be a crime for expensive Ivy league type colleges to offer useless liberal arts or similar degrees. I believe that Colleges should specialize in specific degrees - like teaching - and charge tuition that is proportional to the potential earnings of the profession.

[@kuvjason7236]

The problem is not inheritenly solely from colleges. Part of the problem also stem from school who also push college as the end all, be all. When I graduated HS, not once had my counselor push Trade school and/or entrepreneurship. It was always college, college, college. Then you got clueless HS graduates who don't really know what they actually want to do irl and just go with the flow of Hs to college and finish with a useless liberal arts degree. Looking back now, if my counselor and school district pushed Trade school over college, I wouldn't be working a deadend job right now and I'd 10x happier with a trade job. Atm, 5 years later...I am currently in the process of going into HVAC all I need to do is pass my accuplacer tests, get a letter of introduction from my local hvac union, and then take that letter to various local hvac contractors to hopfully start an apprenticeship.

[@og._.adriel]

We need taikaaaaaaa again

[@kshinokevin]

useless subjects = "Electives" (why do we have to these these; you feel like that you are wasting time & wasting money)

[@michaelmou5938]

It's for your submajor. But I didn't do a submajor... Just the easiest shit possible lol

[@AntBohol]

Whoa! I’m too early.

[@rybo510]

No such thing lol

[@sullythedoc]

If you don’t have a plan of what you want to use your degree for, then you don’t need to be wasting money on college. If in doubt, get a STEM degree lol

[@megaMasterTimmahhh]

If the guy stuttering wasn’t the person directing the play by plays, wouldn’t it be okay? It sounded like he was there to just support the family that called it in. Not direct traffic. Maybe if he needed to get information from you then it’s not the best call. I know that was a extremely stressful situation and the stuttering wouldn’t aid in calming and reassuring you. And because in that moment you need to know and be in the loop with what’s going on.

[@p90p90]

Its JKN, some stories have a little extra fluff to them. and Geo probably was very stressed like you mentioned.

[@c_pistons9989]

I completely agree to you, but also the job of that person to to be reassuring the parents. And I believe the person with the stutter is probably not the most suitable for that lol.

[@bethnichols2875]

The podcast episode from Bart and Geo's channel where they talk about their experience when Taika had his 2nd seizure and she had to call 911 ... Taika Had Another Seizure | Get Close Ep 39

[@megaMasterTimmahhh]

@@bethnichols2875 I’ll have to check that ep. out thanks.

[@megaMasterTimmahhh]

@@c_pistons9989 yeah true. It’s hard to be reassured by someone when you have to constantly decipher what they are saying, I 100% agree.

[@sam2012world]

9

[@LujinCustom]

As someone who has done both liberal arts and tech school, I can find major faults and qualities in each track.

[@davidflores1942]

More Geo! More women cast members! Bring David on a bit. Have Liftgodd spit bars. Lemme have the whole package.

[@bethnichols2875]

If you watched on a regular basis you would see they already offer that within the variety of videos they have been putting out over the past 2 years.

[@jimmymoua]

Lol Nick's catchphrase 🤪🤪🤪🤪👎👎👎👎

[@cucadrive4768]

I farted I just wanted you to know that❤

[@foostopreadingthis]

I farted while reading this

[@bethnichols2875]

Better that then a shart.

[@jackblack4654]

Damn justkiddingnews has been on a downward skid

[@bethnichols2875]

Sorry you aren't mature enough to handle such seriously discussed topics, yet as the majority of the comments reflects, many others are mature enough to enjoy the conversation under discussion and the direction the show has taken.😏 The good news is though, that you can make the choice not to click, and go do something else more productive with your time.🤨 Good luck with that. 👍

[@dkfelixg]

So wtf happened to tiff? She has a new baby. So what happened to tiff? She was such a hard worker.

[@bethnichols2875]

Wow are you late to the game. Anyways. They wanted to take the channel in another direction as is their right to do, as the business owners. Tiff had repeatedly voiced that she wasn't happy here and felt her sense of humor didn't vibe well with the group anymore, so they let her go. Which was also within their right as business owners to do as it is their company and only they know what went on behind the scenes. And as would happen in any business or company, whether online or brick and mortar. The fact she went on to have another baby has nothing to do with it since she had the baby after she left. She is happy with her life as a mom of 2. And the new JK crew is thriving and vibing well as was the intention of the group. You can either be happy with that or you can choose not to watch, yet you will not cause a stink about it because that is not allowed here anymore.

[@slugtothechest]

Didn’t Nick say that he had to juggle balls for his college professor?😂😂

[@slugtothechest]

Didn’t Nick say that he had to juggle balls for his college professor?😂😂