Off The Record with Shawn Michaels (PART 2/2)

03/24/2003
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[@pdbland1]

"I might have been a little difficult." Come on Shawn, I love ya, but give me a break. You're the biggest pain in the ass in the WWF in the mid to late 90's. No wrestler who ever worked with you then would say differently.

[@orestodomundo6652]

😂

[@nighthawk0077]

Born again my ass, he'd still scew Brett, because his boss said so? So honesty, respect, integrity don't matter? Screwing over one of the greatest champions of all time and a fellow pro wrestling brother speaks volumes about this guy. Brett was 100% right.

[@kearstinhopper6831]

I love Shawn.I love that he is honest.He has made mistakes.But every one has.So I respect Shawn.

[@capri8225]

Shawn seems at peace

[@TheSuperfrickensexy]

bret hart and shawn micheals gave us the best wrestling matches of all time, they clicked together in the ring more than any other two wrestlers and that's a fact. i also loved shawn's matches with owen hart and davey boy smith, and it was a shame he never wrestled kurt hennig more times than he did because them two together could really mix it up with there ego's and over-selling and i loved there small short feud they had more than any other really. HBK gave us the best wrestling matches.

[@quinnmccully4689]

There's only one man that can make HBK Humble, and we all know who that man is.

[@ComeToTheTable]

Bret saying that he didn't want to drop the belt in Montreal was just an excuse not to say, "Shawn said he wouldn't drop the belt to me, so why should I drop it to him?"

[@Archean]

I'm suprised he's so honest about the screwjob.

[@TroystonB]

The "I was just doing my job" defense simply doesn't cut it.

[@joshuatracey4247]

I would say it does. Look how hogan left, he had to lose to yoko and probably had to settle for that. He didn’t murder anyone. He did a job his boss asked him to do. Wasn’t honourable but also not the worst thing to do. I love Bret but he should have just lost the title and not tell Vince how to run vinces company. Period.

[@ummumunshi8825]

Landsberg really does good homework

[@joshuatracey4247]

I like Shawn here. Came a long way. Still doesn’t want to admit to some things from what I can tell, but overall he’s pretty sincere and genuine

[@Ricardosucio]

@Ozgood23 amen. finally someone with some sense

[@adrian9822]

he says he knew Vince's plan. However after the match Bret asks him if he was in it, and he said "no, God is my witness" two times. I see that Bret is right for every comment he made for him.

[@dbreiden83080]

Bret is the reason it happened. He acted like a baby..

[@Gogetaps3914]

i know one thing n one thing only, no one will ever do it better then the harts, never mind the hit man

[@KenMoreira]

why are you so mad? Bret got what he deserved. Refused to drop the title willingly as his boss directed and so it was taken from him. You do what your boss asks, in wrestling, and in ANY job. If anything Shawn was the brave one, He took the heat of ALL of the wrestling world for YEARS because of the "screw job".

[@Synphus]

Bret had a renewal contract waiting for him in the WWF, he still loved being there, WCW was offering more money that Vince couldn't match so he did what's best for him. Vince said it's a shame to lose him and that WCW wouldn't know what to do with a Bret The Hitman. Vince told him how the match was going to end, which was the opposite. Bret walked out there not knowing the "Fuck you for leaving" awaiting him. Bret would have been fine with it if he had just told him he was suppose to lose.

[@WrestlingWave]

@surfer53 wtf are you talking about shawn michaels > rey mysterio in technical ability

[@BlackenedForLife]

Yes.

[@XX-tq1oe]

""you submit to authority" come on.

[@DUBtheTIGER]

As for Shawn...He owed Vince McMahon his entire livelyhood. He was being pushed as the greatest wrestler in the world, all thanks to Vince. And they were close friends. He was probably more concerned with honoring Vince's wishes than screwing Bret. They didn't hate each other THAT much before then, Oh, and people REALLY think he'd do something like that just for a belt? Smh...

[@Brian112891]

Are you referring to me, or the person who was giving the interview?

[@ItsTimeIDisappear09]

@TommyG1321 it was a tv show hosted by Mean Gene Okerland. Basically semi shoot stuff that followed wrestlers on the road or at home, how they train... stuff like that.

[@XcXtrippyXcX]

They did tell him, they came up with a hundred scenarios and Bret said "I'm not losing the belt in Canada" he proposed to drop it later on a house show in the US but at that time he would have been a WCW worker... Is Vince just suppose to trust him!? Even though he had a no compete clause, he could still just show up and throw the damn thing in the trash, it had happened before with Madusa, the Women's belt was terminated as a result of the backlash and Vince couldn't afford it happening again.

[@TommyG1321]

@Ciferredux they did forgive each other in 2010 on raw and this past november a dvd culminating the rivalry between the two in a sitdown interview with jimross hosting and the 2 went back and forth going through the years leading up to the survivorseries match..they are okay now.

[@Archvile77]

i honestly believe Shawn has changed to some degree and i'm sure he's a much better person now, but one part of this interview made me a little bit upset. when asked if he would rather drop the belt than lose it, what was the whole "i lost my smile" bit about? didn't he forfeit the belt after that promo/segment because he didn't want to job and lose it? correct me if i'm wrong.

[@legaspi89]

You could tell Shawn didn't care about how this interviewer handled the whole interview. Just pause it at 8:47. The interviewer kept assuming stuff and kept cutting him off. A 90s hbk would of told him something if that interviewer would act like that.

[@KenMoreira]

I can't believe he cut him off while paying respect to Curt.

[@MrSinnisterUrge]

If he didn't want to put over SM, then he should've exerted creative control wayyyy b/f all of these events were placed into the storyline. But I've heard through some other cmments that Bret was upset that the SCSA feud wasn't the best face vs the really best heel, which was HBK. So Bret was getting everything he wanted, and although I agree with him taking the money and running, he wasn't supposed to just leave a company that built him completely susceptible to bankruptcy or being overtaken

[@JestersYouPube]

I do know that Bret and Shawn have put things to rest and are now good friends and more shocking Bret and Vince are also good friends now, lifes too short to thrive of the smell of bullshit like what happened back then, it was wrong what they did to Bret simple as that but its good to know they are all over this and back on track as friends again.

[@JimmyJam1125]

Bret acted like wrestling was a real sport and he acted as if he was a real national hero. Give me a break. You're an employee, under contract. Do what you're told and shut your mouth.

[@jakethemuss3]

Lol, yeah Bret considered himself a Canadian hero on the same lines as Wayne Gretsky. He was clearly delusional.

[@barrystewart5946]

Like job to Hulk Hogan at SummerSlam....uh huh

[@imaratspal]

@@jakethemuss3 Bret Hart was a pretty big deal in Canada

[@imaratspal]

If Bret Hart didn't take wrestling so seriously, he wouldn't have been where he was in the business, plain and simple. I, as a fan of in-ring wrestling, appreciated the realism and engagement he brought about in his matches.

[@ChrisMac]

I don't doubt Shawn's conversion, but it's clear he's glossing over certain periods of his life and when you hear comments like that it's easy to see how Bret would be upset. Obviously, everyone has to be grown up about it, but Shawn seems to be stirring up shit more than he is trying to bury anything. There's no question they're both great in-ring performers, but as a technical wrestler who can beat you on the mat, Bret is so much better. In a straight up match, he could have destroyed Shawn.

[@DUBtheTIGER]

@officialvangcreative with all due respect, if you're talking about the tradition of losing your last match for a promotion in order to put over the next star as you leave, you could not be more wrong. It has nothing to do with Vince, and certainly nothing to do with Shawn. It's a tradition in wrestling that is as old as the business itself. You do not go out on top if you're leaving to go to a rival promotion. Considering Vince's position, he had every right. Think about this....

[@fffjfjfjfjf]

"a tragedy a gifted guy so much fun but a huge loss to..." "shawn ive gotta cut you off" haha wtf lansberg

[@whobitmyname]

Why? Because he doesn't ask fluffy questions? Because he manages the ad breaks so tightly?

[@TommyG1321]

what is wwe confidential i never heard of that and wasnt watching around 02-04 i was finishin highschool and by 05 was in college..i did catch mania 18 19 and 21 but i wasnt really in the loop all the time...was wwe confidential a series? a sitcom? a smaller show like nxt? a one time show?

[@jfizzay]

I HATE this host!!! And why don't they make the show longer so they don't have to keep cutting people off

[@GLazz85]

Its not his job to decide who to drop it to. Its WWE creative who decideds that

[@OCcrazy1]

but vince did agree 2 let bret hand the title over on raw

[@Shadowhoggy]

Paul Wight put it best,"If the guy didn't want to do the favor or give the Honors then too bad.What did Bret think Vince was gonna do,let him take the title to WCW?" Remember Alundra Blaze anybody?What would have happened to WWE if the World title ended up in a WCW trashcan

[@XcXtrippyXcX]

Either Bret wanted the belt to hold Vince up for contract renewal or he was suppose to get more money to throw it in the trash on WCW Television... Either way, BOTH Shawn and Vince did the right thing for the WWF and it's a shame Bret Hart can't fucking move on and admit he was fucking wrong.

[@Kilmarro]

Is it wrong that when he said Curt Hennig, the first two words that came to mind were, "Absolutely perfect"?

[@BryantFinlay]

What you seem to forget is that Vince asked Hart to go to WCW.

[@ManMuffin94]

how do you know?

[@GtheMVP]

When I heard that Bret wanted to forfeit the title on RAW the next night, not actually lose and pass the torch, I blame him for MTL, it's his fault for not checking his ego. No one walks out without dropping the belt properly, unless injury sidelines them.

[@skills7168]

this is so sad cause now his career is over, no matter how great he has done in wrestling people will only remember him as the guy who screw bret.

[@Querymonger]

@mrslash11 The only time the Bible says to resist authority is when you're being ordered to do something contrary to its other principles. Montreal was a business move and I think it was the right one.

[@DantesProphet]

the only people who had a right to be upset about the screwjob were the people directly involved no one else so for the love of all that is holy let the issue die doesnt do any good to cotinue poking and prodding something 14 years after it happened. bret has accepted shawns apology and forgiven him so i dont see why anyone else should have a problem with it.

[@MrSinnisterUrge]

Bret shouldn't have even been that mad about it tbh. I don't like, and have never liked Shawn Michaels, unless i was playing w/his character in a vid game...but he and Vince have been taking a lot of unwarranted abuse for a decision that was to passively aggressively take a decision away w/o a full blown argument with Bret. I know people that do that, and hate them for it..all they had to do was take the fire but not reverse the decision, which was to put some1 over when you're leaving.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Shawn's NOT lying here..I agree there are plenty of shit he's talking about here that is TRUE!!! Is he being defensive? Yes...but then again this was just after he changed his life...

[@phausetrocks]

the fact behind survivor series is bret had already decided to go to wcw and no one can blame vince for telling bret he didn't want him to win the match look at what wcw did with the womens title with alundra blaze bret just didn't want to lose in canada and that is just dumb why should it matter where he would have lost the title he had to lose before he left vince wouldn't have had it any other way

[@haroldrichardson5919]

Shawn(one of my childhood fave superstar in WWF)but he quotes the bible "submit on to authority..", maybe Shawn hadn't read the WHOLE bible...I don't remember any anything about submitting to ANY authority but the Lord, unless he refers to "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's,&that which is god's to God...", that's the only parable I can think of...But Jesus blatantly corrected the ten commandments to the multitudes after the fish miracle.AND I've read it close,due to my tenacity in debate class,so believer or not to debunk it I had to know that book backwards and forwards...&the aformentioned example was ONE of SO many times Christ contradicted the old testament.

[@WrestlingWave]

God bless. Masallah

[@kdreamland]

@NEOW123 all vince had to do was 'order' bret to drop the title. let's be clear who the owner of the WWE is and was then. If Bret Hart had walked out of the WWE with the title, you wouldn't see him back there EVER. If that had happened, then there is no argument, then you can say Bret is 100% in the wrong. Fans would have turned on Bret fully. But no Vince had to be sneaky and underhanded and lie to people. And he's the Boss!

[@ItsTimeIDisappear09]

You people on here trashing Shawn are so fucking clueless. They have all forgiven each other. Move on. Vince could not take that risk from a business and history standpoint. After what Medusa did there was no way he was gonna take that chance with the WWE Championship belt. That wouldve been a crippling blow to the WWE.

[@Querymonger]

@mrslash11 Not on that issue it doesn't.

[@jrsandres24]

Don't hate on Shawn becoming religious. He found happiness in it and there's nothing you can do about it. Imagine if he was still the reckless, rude, disrespectul, drug abusing HBK..we might have not seen him anymore today. Just look at scott hall razor ramon today. Sad story.

[@hbk268]

Romans 13. Of course, you're supposed to obey your boss within the realm of reason, but that's the verse in the Bible.

[@Clintbdee]

Actually, Shawn, Vince wanted Bret to do a JOB LOL

[@talleymark18]

no it's what was right for business.

[@JacquelineMeHofferbergah]

@Querymonger The bible contradicts itself almost constantly. Thats a whole different story.

[@ghoulie11]

Considering the only way you can become humble in the wrestling business is to have the Iron Sheik break your back in a Camel Clutch, I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the chance.

[@ASunBurstHein]

"couldn't happen." lol...Shawn and Ric put on a showstopper for Ric's final match. That was about the time I stopped following wrestling as closely. after Wrestlemania 24 I can;t remember all that went down.

[@kingkold]

No higher power then Vince McMahon huh shawn. you coward Would God use lies and deciet the way you did? No.

[@TheEbhagzzz]

hbk always turned in the title

[@JacquelineMeHofferbergah]

@mrslash11 I guess my point is, he shouldn't using the bible to defend himself at all. From a business standpoint I completely understand the screw job. What I am trying to say is Shawn was a shitty person to be around for years. Part of growing up is saying "Hey, I fucked up. And I'm so sorry to everyone that I hurt or let down." He isn't willing to do that and that is what upsets me.

[@JacquelineMeHofferbergah]

I think he's embarrassed. He knows that he was an asshole and he doesn't want to talk about it.

[@misstaestar]

Why do wrestling fans believe what other wrestlers tell them about other wrestlers. Not saying they are lying, but 90% of the time they are overexgrating . I go by the horses mouth.

[@kwrbt2979]

such a snake, was still blaming bret hart for his own actions

[@Swazi4]

@hitcan79 Bischoff has already talked one of Vince's champions into trowing the WWF belt into the trash (Medusa), and if Heyman didn't get the cops involved to get his belt back, Bischoff was going to have Mike Awesome throw the ECW Heavyweight Title in the trash. Can't really blame Vince with how much of a snake Bischoff had been.

[@Brian112891]

Oh ok.

[@michaelharper9985]

its not hbk`s fault about brett at all .. you gotta do what ya gotta do

[@mike91815]

He says in his book that him and hhh had to talk vince into screwing Bret and if you read his book you can see that he's been a chickenshit back stabbing little crybaby his whole life Vince knew he had to do whatever shawn wanted or else he'd call his lawyer like he did when he and Bret got into a fight in the locker room

[@donpage4181]

Yeah seriously if your company is already in the shitter are you going to chance the possibility of your main draw leaving with the title. I know I wouldn't

[@crews-lj3ph]

@Brian112891 how

[@MrSinnisterUrge]

You are out of your mind, no offense. I would never in my right mind let Brett Hart make some farewell speech and vacate on top, when you're heading for a RIVAL COMPANY THAT THREATENS ME PUTTING FOOD ON MY TABLE. This could have been the defining moment of the Monday Night Wars...now the MSJ bcame the catalyst of Vince rise to star, which became the perfect foil to SCSA. Had Brett just simply vacated the belt, he would've left w/out giving his heat to another superstar, and advertised leaving

[@landrykkb]

Shawn Michaels sure is lying through his teeth here and is very hypocritical too.He denies it,but the fact is Shawn didn't like to job.

[@ryanheckman4649]

@2:59....Like it or not, the Montreal Screwjob is one of the defining moments of your career. A persons legacy is determined by the way that other people view you, not by how you view yourself

[@irishock]

@hitcan79 Bret's story was the real bullshit. Not losing in Montreal? please. Just a sad excuse because he wouldn't job to HBK.

[@RedCancer]

I love Shawn Michaels and he was one of my favourites growing up but that bible quote of always submitting to authority is a dangerous one and something I don't agree with. You could easily take that quote out of context and use it for evil like the Nazis did back during WW2.

[@iiwatcher]

Lol, you MAD? The truth hurts doesn't it? ; )

[@LSF45]

Shawn wouldn't job to Bret back then. Bret wouldn't job because he wouldn't job. One ego led to another's. Oh well...

[@bizzex5685]

Cant stand michael landsberg very rude towards his guest. Constantly cutting off his guest

[@onephatdude]

"I wouldn't change anything. The bible says this: submit to your boss." Pathetic. What a corporate yes-man. Let's just ignore the fact Bret put in 14 years of blood, sweat & tears & worked his way all the way to the top of the company. Bret probably did more than anybody to elevate Shawn in his programs & matches with him. Let's ignore the fact Bret's contract said he had creative control his last 30 days w/the company. For such a great wrestler Shawn's still the same guy he always was. *smh*

[@XX-tq1oe]

onephatdude submit to authority lol

[@Blackhaze3000]

haha i know right

[@iiwatcher]

Lmao

[@RinTetsuki]

Always cutting people off. How rude

[@JacquelineMeHofferbergah]

@jerichorocker1234 The whole interview is weird. He uses the bible to protect himself from looking like a douche. I'm not saying that Vince is a tyrant, but there are multiple passages that say you should stand up against tyranny. Just saying.

[@frangiel.8667]

look. shawn made mistakes, I mean come on.. do you think bret wouldn't have done the same thing to.. he would.. because he is aroogant to.. i don't think it's cool for him to be saying things like: ' YEAH, SHAWN IS CHICKENSHIT".. i mean really...if shawn said something like that abaout bret.. the whole world would be pissed off at shawn.. so i think bret hart should stop being inmature and shut up.. and if you don't like what i think ... i could care less,, i respect shawn michaels

[@Brian112891]

The ending was so rude.

[@Nash1965H]

@IWantYourThong @IWantYourThong Look at your channel I.D. Reall, and you say that about Shawn? You are a major hippocrit!