The Bucs in those first years are a topic that I find surprisingly fascinating.
@Buttington_Headerson6 ай бұрын
We were the worst team ever by far
@marcusmcgraw35196 ай бұрын
Did you know they accidentally drafted a player in the early 80s
@astrosjer8226 ай бұрын
Fascinating that in 1979 they were one of the best teams in the NFL
@CTubeMan6 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: The Seahawks scored 140 points in 1992, fewer than 9 points per game. Yet their defense was so good Cortez Kennedy was named Defensive Player of the Year.
@animemaster48616 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly all time they're noted as the worst offense and they were top three in defense. And yeah Cortez Kennedy was defensive player. They have the distinction of being the most imbalanced team all time.
@rngfootball7596 ай бұрын
92 Seahawks bad luck would continue as they lost out on a chance on drafting Drew Bledsoe.
@ryanjacobson25086 ай бұрын
The NFL around 1995 started really re-writing the rules to favor the passing game because the early 90's was such a down era for offense.
@michaelvandeginste34976 ай бұрын
@@rngfootball759yeah they actually burned themselves by defeating the Patriots in week two of the 1992 season. Irony can be cruel.
@miccal996 ай бұрын
@@rngfootball759 Yeah, they chose poorly.
@WVUer216 ай бұрын
"How do you feel about your team's execution?" -- reporter "I'm all for it." -- HC John McKay
@edogthebigdog6 ай бұрын
I personally love researching absolutely terrible offenses. Even though this team is the worst statistically, I believe that accounting for era, the 2006 Raiders are even worse. They had Randy Moss on their team one year before he set the touchdown reception record. They scored only 12 touchdowns on offense in an offensive-friendly era. And committed 46 turnovers.
@CTubeMan6 ай бұрын
Randy Moss quit on the Raiders that year.
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
Raiders absolutely historically, inept.
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
@CTubeMan At various stages of his career, Randy Moss quit on every team he played for, which explains why he finished his career with fewer receptions than Andre Johnson, he had Jerry Rice's skills, unfortunately, he had JaMarcus Russell's work ethic.
@JWex-jy7sk6 ай бұрын
I just always think of their QB room when reminded of that team Andrew Walter and Aaron Brooks, 3 TD’s each. Marques Tuiasosopo, 1 passing TD THAT WAS IT! 7 passing TD’s and 24 INT’s out of their QB’s the whole season. Al Davis brought back Art Shell after over a decade out of the game thinking he was the answer to fixing the team after a 4-12 season
Another horrendous offense: The Colts of 1991 scored a total of 143 points, fewer than 9 PPG. 11 out of 16 games, they scored in single digit numbers (they were shutout twice). What makes this one really egregious is that Redskins kicker Chip Lohmiller scored 149 points (31 FG + 56 XP) on his own! The Colts that year obviously ranked dead last/near last in most offensive categories. They had a grand total of 14 touchdowns (3 rushing + 10 receiving + 1 kickoff return)
@TomG15556 ай бұрын
What's more interesting to me is what happened the following season: in '78, Tampa Bay drafted QB Doug Williams and FB Johnny Davis and added TE Jimmie Giles via trade, as well as hired Joe Gibbs (yes, *that* Joe Gibbs) as their offensive coordinator, so the Bucs had good if young talent at QB, RB, FB, and TE and a HoF offensive braintrust constructing game plans around them...and still finished 25th out of 28th in points and dead last in the league in yards (again).
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
Not, nearly, as interesting as how that combination of, coach, and, QB, would later win a SB, people, (correctly), consider him one of the greatest coaches ever, however, it's very easy to forget that, Rocket Screen, was still a sore spot, and, with the Giants ascending, JKC, very, likely, caves to public pressure, and, fires him, were it not for, "The, Drop."
@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace6 ай бұрын
Love your channel man! Kinda sad that your baseball channel didn't take off.. but I get it, it happens.. and you put out more than enough football content to satisfy! Thanks for doing what you do!
@OfficialJaguarGator96 ай бұрын
Thanks! The baseball channel is coming back; just have to figure out with time constraints how to get it going
@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace6 ай бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Great news! I can point you at some pretty interesting stories about the late 1800's and early 1900's baseball.. but i get it. You do plenty of work for us with the football channel. Do baseball stuff if you find time.
@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace6 ай бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 One good baseball story that's not from the early days... and you can find clips of the guy.. Marvin Eugene Throneberry.. the man BORN to play on the 40 win 120 loss 1962 New York Mets.. also known as Marvelous Marv! Great minor league hitter.. inept fielder at first base and while one of the better power hitters on the 1962 Mets, not a very good hitter. "He looks like Mickey Mantle at the plate until he starts to swing!"
@luisreyes19636 ай бұрын
I'll bet any kid would gladly trade all the '77 Buccaneers cards for that very stale gum that came with the pack. 😂
@eddiekulp12416 ай бұрын
Then they beat my Saints for first win in 1977 , im still getting over that
@Rockhound61656 ай бұрын
You. They beat my Cardinals a week later extending our woes for that season starting with the 55-14 drubbing by the Dolphins on Thanksgiving.
@stuartdollar99126 ай бұрын
The week after they beat the Saints, they beat the St. Louis Cardinals. In both cases, the losing team fired their head coach.
@James-fj6yo6 ай бұрын
I remember watching that game being a Dolphins fan I think Bob Griese had five touchdowns@@Rockhound6165
@James-fj6yo6 ай бұрын
Hank Stran lost his job after that game. What a way to go out smh
@JWD19926 ай бұрын
What is it with the Buccaneers so often having elite defenses and utterly confused offenses? Amazing how they won a playoff game two years later.
@tompiper14806 ай бұрын
Great video
@Wildcat_Media6 ай бұрын
Years ago (before Cleveland and Detroit ever had their winless seasons), I was watching an NFL game with my dad. I can’t remember who was playing, but it was the last undefeated team. And wouldn’t you know it, that team lost. At the end of the game, the announcer said something about popping champagne in Miami. I must have been quite young, because I didn’t understand the reference. So I asked my dad about it and he explained about the 1972 Dolphins’ perfect season. Then I asked him if there was ever a team who didn’t win at all, and if they did anything after the last team finally won their first game. Dad’s response “They probably drink a beer in Tampa.” And since then, I think of the poor Tampa fans drowning their sorrows when the memories of those early Bucs teams come up.
@Rockhound61656 ай бұрын
By the time they won their first game that season the Bucs had scored a total of 53 points, 23 of which were in 1 game. They were shutout 6 times including 4 times in 5 weeks and they scored 7 or less points, not counting the shutouts, 4 times. They didn't score an offensive touchdown until the 2nd quarter of week 5. And they were still able to beat my Cardinals and the Air Coryell offense. It was the last game Don Coryell coached in St. Louis.
@msarzo6 ай бұрын
He took umbrage at Bumbridge 😂
@gfromt-town11056 ай бұрын
🤣
@neneshubby6 ай бұрын
In fairness to the Bucs 1977 was the final year of thr 70-77 dead ball era. Scoring fell to a 35 year low at 17.2 per game. It was so bad that after the season the NFL instituted new rules to help the offenses, allowing Offensive Linemen to extend their arms while blocking and the 5 yard no contact rule for receivers.
@philipnye46 ай бұрын
Even in the Bucs first win over the Saints, we only had one offensive touchdown. We one 33-14, but what blew it open in the second half was three pick sixes.
@astrosjer8226 ай бұрын
That is the game the late 70’s-early 80’s great Bucs defense started to come of age.
@aaronholcomb2376 ай бұрын
The best passer rating for the Buccaneers that season was punter Dave Green who had a 118.8 rating on just 2 passes.
@denisceballos97456 ай бұрын
From the looks of it, not only was the 1977 Bucs offense weak and ineffectual, they gifted a lot of points to their opponents. There were a lot of pick sixes in those clips, a lot of fumbles, a lot of sacks deep in their own end.
@aaronholcomb2376 ай бұрын
The worst part of that is they had as many pick sixes as they had touchdown passes.
1977 was NFL's version of 1968 in MLB (the year of the pitcher) The grits blitz defense also played in the 1977 season.
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, offense, absolutely, nonexistent.
@troyrobicheaux80976 ай бұрын
Lee Roy Selmen was a huge reason those Tampa Bay defenses were “kinda” good. Damn shame he got stuck with Tampa Bay, because he was Great! It’s not a stretch to mention him with any defensive tackle who’s ever played the game.
@astrosjer8226 ай бұрын
Problem besides no QB was John McKay running a college offense in the NFL
@goodsport656 ай бұрын
How the heck could Tampa Bay have been so good defensively but HORRIBLE offensively that year? I'm still shaking my head.
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
The same reason they could be, so, terrible historically, but, still won two SBs, while, the Vikings are really great historically, but, still never won, when sports aren't weird, they're downright cruel.
@Mateogreat6 ай бұрын
Bad owner
@matthewdaley7466 ай бұрын
@@MateogreatLack of consistency, hurt.
@noxcure6 ай бұрын
*Patriots 2023 has entered the chat*
@mrmoose66196 ай бұрын
The Grits Blitz Falcons can explain...
@markko176 ай бұрын
And then there was the season opener for the 1966 Denver Broncos. Playing the Houston Oilers, they lost 45-7 and got 0 first downs. Their one touchdown came on an 88 yard kick return by Goldie Sellers. The Broncos quarterbacks, John McCormick and Mickey Slaughter (one of my all time favorite names) went 2-20 and -7 net passing yards.
@dumisatonyjohnson81456 ай бұрын
Honourable mention 1981 Baltimore Colts (two years before they went to Indianapolis )
@markbrian71796 ай бұрын
They drafted Ricky Bell and signed Anthony Davis as a free agent and did worse than the previous season.
@astrosjer8226 ай бұрын
Ricky Bell was hurt a lot that first season
@daleschmieg90506 ай бұрын
In the traditional "black and blue" defensive oriented division, the 1977 Bucs actually allowed the fewest points of the five teams in their division.
@briannearey89026 ай бұрын
The funniest thing was McKay's son trying to play WR he was so tiny he was lucky he wasn't killed out there
Thank goodness I wasn't born until a few years later because the offense would've driven me crazy. That offense might be the worst in the NFL's modern era. If not for the defense, which many people overlook, the Bucs would've been smacked down more often back then. That defense wasn't the problem at all. John McKay was way too stubborn.
@michaelvandeginste34976 ай бұрын
Which one do you think is worse?: being part of an offense that is under pressure to score every time they have the ball in order to win or being part of a defense that is under pressure to give up nothing ever in order to win.
@neneshubby6 ай бұрын
Look up the 2006 Raiders. 10.5 ppg, only 7 touchdown passes all season. They hired Art Shell, who’d been out of coaching for 6 years and he turned around and hired Tom Walsh as offensive coordinator who’d been out of coaching for 7 years and had been running a bed and breakfast. So your 2 most important coaching positions are filled by a couple of guys who’d spent a combined 13 years out of the NFL. Even I could see that was going to be a disaster.
@joshuashamai28766 ай бұрын
The 1977 Packers weren’t much better. They scored 134 all year.
@NevadaLamb6 ай бұрын
Gotta give respect to the Redskins for wanting to help the Bucs do well in the league.
@Fender1786 ай бұрын
Washington is NOT wrong. Tampa was putrid on offense and McKay was running a college offense that he ran at USC and its NOT working at all at the NFL level. Apparently Brundidge knows a lot more about NFL football than John McKay did in 1977. Um No John you are the one who is ridiculous you criticized your own offense saying it sucked and was the reason why you lost and then you say that the players on Washington don't know anything about the job they being paid to do. It took to the 1979 season for the Buccaneers to make it to the playoffs.
@mgb46926 ай бұрын
Sure they weren't wrong, but there's a reason you don't do that. Cause what the hell did you do then? All the sudden you win Super Bowls in strike years and people don't think you did anything. And god forbid you lose to that trash, then what are you?
Uh...so...what the hell would McKay call a bad team?
@stephenholloway68936 ай бұрын
Probably any other bad team then his.
@ryanlindley64766 ай бұрын
YES, OVER 100 SEASONS PLAYED, ON PAPER BUT YOU HAVE TO SUBTRACT THE RUGBY YEARS. YOU CAN ONLY COUNT THE ERA OF THE BALL BEING HIKED TO THE QB AND THE FORWARD PASS BEING COMMON.
@dollartwentychickentendies6 ай бұрын
where's the line there? 1960s?
@jasonfischer89466 ай бұрын
WHAT?
@stuartdollar99126 ай бұрын
The NFL, and it's predecessor organization, the APFA, was formed in 1919, 105 seasons, so far. No Rugby rules at any time.
@mpf41146 ай бұрын
Had John McCay said this today in the “Hot Take Culture” he would have been roasted
@Fireyninjadog6 ай бұрын
The offense after 12 games: 53 total points, which is less than 4.5 points per game. They got shut out SIX times. That's half of the games they played in before those 2 wins
@chrispappa7045 ай бұрын
Still depresses me when I think that this lousy franchise has 2 Super Bowl wins. While my Vikings have none and haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl since '77.
Ай бұрын
Former center Steve Wilson is a good friend of mine.
@ronsmac6 ай бұрын
I’d really like to know why scoring was down league wide in 1977 from 1976. Only 4 teams score 300 plus pts after 9 did it in 1976.
@stephenholloway68936 ай бұрын
So the lesson here is even if you have a decent to good defense if your offense is bad, you're going to lose games and even gets shut out at times. Also it's ok if you criticize the offense but if anyone says you're to blame for it, just pretend that you know more about football then an veteran who has played it for years. Sounds like the coach was in denial about why the offense was terrible that year.
@donfinstad16856 ай бұрын
I'm no expert. But. Pre-snap, I saw a lot of terrible 3-point stances. I saw a lot of terrible footwork by the quarterbacks. Coaching was terrible from top to bottom.
@johncate95416 ай бұрын
The '85 Bears wouldn't have made the playoffs if they had the '77 Bucs' offense. As for McKay saying Bill Brundige didn't know anything about football, at that point, Brundige had a vastly better understanding of the pro game than McKay did. What McKay did at USC wouldn't work in the pros. I can't believe Anthony Davis and Ricky Bell didn't tell him that themselves.
@jonathanlund6708Ай бұрын
You would think those first few seasons being the worst team they would have the first pick in the draft for consecutive seasons that they would build a decent team through the draft but they didn't so what happened
@James-fj6yo6 ай бұрын
I've lived in Tampa Florida since 1964 but was raised a Miami Dolphins fan and stayed true to the Dolphins even when the bucs came to tampa. I had some good times making fun of the bucs and their fans😂😂😂😂😅
@moorebounce6 ай бұрын
Yeah the NFL then over corrected with the Jags and Panthers which ended up screwing the Browns years later.
@00ghostcobra6 ай бұрын
0-26 Hot Damn😂😂😂
@andreamay4376 ай бұрын
No, he didn’t! (At least he said “Buc”)
@pendragon20126 ай бұрын
Yet this team finally broke the winless streak. McKay was a terrible coach.
@1BrianSawyer6 ай бұрын
The big Sombrero..... Home to a riot on June 3rd, 1977 after Led Zeppelin had to leave the stage due to lightning....
@rushbroussard53996 ай бұрын
Jg9 Is Not Wrong The 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers They Were Bad That Is Saying That Archie Manning Career In New Orleans Was Bad The 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Were Worst.
@barbaracaroll6 ай бұрын
I submit the 1972 Eagles for the worst offense in NFL history
@eromitlabhitw6 ай бұрын
Randy Hedberg is the worst quarterback in the modern era... and he was the week 1 starter. And the week 2 starter. And the starter in this game against Washington.
@aaronholcomb2376 ай бұрын
I think Hedberg was in over his head. He played college football at Minot State which was NAIA (possibly division 2) at the time.
@marcusmcgraw35196 ай бұрын
Do not be fooled by the 2 wins at the end of the year by the Bucs. This team was clearly a little worse than the team prior, just like the 2016 Browns that went 1-15 were worse than the 2017 Browns that went 0-16
@edogthebigdog6 ай бұрын
Oh no, they were a LOT better. while the offense still struggled horrendously, the defense at least kept it close in most games.
@marcusmcgraw35196 ай бұрын
@@edogthebigdog the offense was still somehow worse though. Yea the defense improved, but they didn’t even cross 100 points scored until the final game of the season. 103 across 14 games is even worse; despite the Bucs not scoring until game 3 of their expansion season, they still finished well ahead of the 77 Bucs in terms of offense (which doesn’t say much)
@augustuscaesar99956 ай бұрын
Both of the coaches of teams that lost to the Bucs in 1977, Hank Stram (Saints) and Don Coryell (Cardinals), were fired after the losses
@marcusmcgraw35196 ай бұрын
@@augustuscaesar9995 and that tells me what I need to know
@RoyPage19706 ай бұрын
The 76 offense was worse than the 77
@James-fj6yo6 ай бұрын
We couldn't pass we couldn't run we couldn't block we couldn't tackle but other than that we played a good game Coach John McKay Tampa Bay buccaneers head coach lol.