Jim Cornette on The David Schultz / John Stossel Incident

From Episode 137 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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[@babyjoe5488]

I literally fell out of my chair when Dr D was arresting the Hispanic guy and he said "Hey youre the guy who knocked out Geraldo" then did a blast of coke

[@danwong7793]

I second this. I need to see this video

[@Njbear7453]

Big Mike it’s on the vice episode

[@ThereIsNoLord]

You just sold this episode to me with this comment!

[@tigerbug69]

Yeah that was hilarious.😂

[@misterlb16]

Goodness that was hilarious!

[@kael2450]

Bob Orton talked about this in a shoot he did and said that everyone in locker room praised Schultz for doing that as everyone thought Stossel was a bellend.

[@keithkelson726]

Dr. D didn't slap him hard enough, if you ask me.

[@oopopp]

I watched it 30 years after the incident and I still yelled at the tv "Get'em!! Chase him down!!"... lol....

[@kenrickeason]

Eddie Mansfield tried to tell John not to talk to David and he still did.. Even though I disagree with him *"Reaching back like a Pimp and slapping the hoe"* he kinda had it coming.. but I rather for him to just belittle his manhood! Make him look like a little bitch.. You can't tell me a pro wrestler who is trained to talk shit on the Mic and has psychology that he couldn't finesse this Reporter with ease.. David who was a heel at the time could of easily shut down John Stossel verbally destroying his manhood and have WWF cameras there just in case 20/20 tried to edit out the parts that make it look like John had the upper hand but in reality the WWF footage shows the real uncut actions of Dr. D destroyed him making 20/20 look like fake news and making WWF look real as hell..

[@MMA-CLIPS2]

@giftofgab247 You mean he done what he BOSS told him to do. You dumb fuck.

[@panthwolfy]

For telling him hi opinion. Well you can come to the dojo or the gym and talk to people I know and when you tell them your opinion don't cry when they roundhouse you to the side of the head, ok?

[@steveadams7870]

Keith Kelson That second slap was pretty brutal.

[@j.styles8977]

Stone Cold: I’m the toughest S.O.B in WWE history. David Shultz : hold my gun.

[@emptyhand777]

After wrestling, Schultz became a bounty hunter. Dr. D was the real deal.

[@daleva187goligo]

WWF* ... there I fixed it u tool

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Dr d is a real life bad ass

[@lagster1018]

Haku:

[@oopopp]

Watching John Stossel get Pimp Slapped and running away was soooooooo SATISFYING.... lol...

[@MilMaska]

*SLAP* "Is that fake huh. What is the matter with you. This is an open hand slap" - David Schultz

[@rocthaice24]

giftofgab247 think VInce paid it out. Vince is also a scumbag for trying to throw David under the boss

[@RevanJJ]

Stossel said Vince had to pay it, it was $285k. Then Vince screwed over Dr D’s career basically after telling him to “blast” the guy. Of course, he probably made a hell of a lot as a bounty hunter.

[@scottdodson8619]

I mean, it was an'open hand ' slap- NOT a ' closed fist' . Perfectly legal in pro wrestling!

[@OliveMule]

😂🤣😅🍦

[@LilDemonkulous]

Dave Schultz, the original king of Pancrase

[@haiasieel6099]

Someone greenlight a reality show with Dr. D and New Jack as bounty hunters, who drive each other crazy. A real life Lethal Weapon!

[@bbbbKeJodddd]

Funny enough, The Lethal Weapon became a bounty hunter as well

[@georgebell9634]

Sold

[@TFitz1]

You’re either a genius or a madman

[@haiasieel6099]

@@TFitz1 A little bit of both brother.

[@hrmarkley9758]

🤣🤣🤣

[@SouthernSkeptic]

I'm a big dude and not easily intimidated. Seeing old man Dr D in those interviews made me realize he's still intimidating.

[@johngallagher72]

Dr. D and the Fullers might be the last ties to the carnival days where legit shooters travelled the country and working small town folk. Herb Welch the guy who trained Dr. D travelled this circuit in the early part of the last century.

[@johngallagher72]

@frank bonini did you listen to the Robert Fuller Studcast episodes on Corny ..I was never a big Fuller fan. He just didnt seem to resonate her in Canada . I was a huge Dr. D fan though . You could tell he was over even as a heel and was very big here in the North East and in Montreal and Calgary. Can you imagine how good a Dr D Stan Hansen program would have been for the AWA title when Hansen was champ .

[@johngallagher72]

@frank bonini not sure if you'll be able to find any but see if you can find any Dr.D Hogan matches . I saw a Dr D Hogan match from MSG that was a Hogan title defense ..I think Dr. D was one of his first challengers. Anyway this match was on one of the old Coliseum home video releases in the 80s. Might be one of Hogans best matches 👍

[@randolphdefreese7874]

i never realized how big he was.

[@SouthernSkeptic]

@frank bonini I'm 6'5 300. I want nothing to do with him.

[@AvatarOfGames]

The work of a true pro. Protects the business, puts himself over and gets a bit of heat while he's at it. All in one fell swoop.

[@jthwang]

except he got himself and the company sued.

[@AvatarOfGames]

@@jthwang How much more heat do you want? lol

[@theglasshouse6782]

He lost his job. And got his company sued. That’s not professional

[@therealityofitall4819]

I bet Dr. D wouldn't tried that with Tommy Morrison and Mike Tyson.. I bet that fake tough guy would have got beat in 😂😂😂 fake tough guys love picking on small prey 😂😂😂

[@FK-GOOGLE]

Your not very bright, are you?

[@vetdad1807]

"Stretched from asshole to appetite." I love you Corny.

[@k.j.hallingswest5231]

Stossel came off like a prick... I don't blame the Doctor.

[@wwesvk9958]

He IS puss 🤣

[@MrBlockice22]

Yeah when Stossel said the "F" word, that was his ass, LOL. Schultz slapped the taste out of his mouth, LMAO!! I cant wait to see this episode.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

"I think it's fake" first of all, isn't a question.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

Well, it is. Even Schultz admitted that 28 years ago.

[@hyperstar1867]

No “I think it’s fake” is a statement not a question, “how real is it?” or “is it predetermined?” are questions.

[@shawnjames6714]

I dare you to say that to David Schultz to his face.

[@user-my7qs8rm2t]

That would be like going into a Biker Bar & telling the whole bar that Bikers are pussies…… At that point, what do you think is going to happen……

[@LordRaptor]

Wrestling has lost a potentially big star with David Schultz after that incident, people don't call him "Stone Cold before Stone Cold" for no reason, this dude was the real deal.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

Hall of Fame 2021!

[@shanepleasants6280]

Definitely even Austin says this

[@timf7413]

I think Cornette is correct when he says he probably would have flamed out over some incident sooner or later regardless of this situation.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@timf7413 I didn't hear Cornette say it, but I think that's exactly what happened with Mr. T. Regardless, the guy was an amazing heel.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

He screwed himself, if not with this than his attempting to start an unscripted angle with Mr. T. No promoter would work with him after that. They couldn't afford to.

[@RevanJJ]

Stossel comes off as a snobby, obnoxious jerk. He deserved that smackdown.

[@frankbonini9128]

Dr. D Should Still Finish the Job

[@lemankurtz8950]

Stossel looks very 80s-butch ya know? Surprised he survived the Aids epidemic.

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Yeah he did I think he got off easy

[@vancebacri5894]

@@lemankurtz8950 hahah wtf

[@lemankurtz8950]

@@vancebacri5894 I stand by this statement Haha......

[@loonanite]

If this episode of Dark Side proved anything was that Schultz is a badass. I didn't know he was a bounty hunter after wrestling.

[@popo0129]

Honestly was expecting he would struggle after he ended up getting fired. Instead he did a job that not a lot of people can or will ever do. He even credited wrestling as how he was able to do it too. I feel like that in itself is proof that yeah the wrestling on tv is all scripted but the moves and the techniques aren't. Honestly so happy for him and he seems to be at peace now while Stossel just seems like he still bitter about it despite him basically trying to shit on a career many people have done and love to do and potentially fucking up their business. Seems like he is just one of those pieces of shit that wants to expose or report stuff just for himself. His for the fans reason doesn't really sound genuine at all.

[@Phicheee]

Oh fuck, I didn't know that. Can you imagine being a criminal on the run and having fucking Dr. D on your ass? Jesus Christ.

[@Jimbo_Bluff]

There needs to be a National Professional Wrestling Museum and Jim Cornette needs to be the curator.

[@l96esj38]

Anyone who hasn’t seen the David interview needs to watch it ASAP. Pure gold.

[@razielvampx]

This episode was the best one since the season premier

[@SegataNoKen]

Second this

[@-BigMike-]

I missed it! Thank goodness for DVR, got me a night little night of wrestling lined up

[@davidmurray6949]

Benoit

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

It was definitely light and very much needed especially after the episodes about Jimmy Snuka and Dino Bravo.

[@Njbear7453]

Other than the Benoit episode this season has been very subpar, I liked the brawl for all episode though. Looking forward to the Owen episode.

[@randolphdefreese7874]

Stossel deserved what he got,he walked into a hornets nest and expected not to get stung.well he got stung twice!

[@johngallagher72]

An article from the Apter mags back in the day ... was titled. "Flair turns back Brody and Shultz ... 'I wrestle the men Hogan is afraid of.' "

[@tigerbug69]

I got that mag somewhere.

[@johngallagher72]

@@tigerbug69 Do you remember if it was The Weestler or Inside Wrestling ..I'm pretty sure it wasnt PWI . A couple of my other favorite articles were "Ric Flair ...I hate being Champion " ..that was a PWI cover story and Inside Wrestling "The Resurrection of Tito Santana "

[@michaellopez6568]

I had that issue too.

[@terrymc8883]

Give me a face to face between Stossel and Shultz right now. I would take that over Cornette/ Russo.

[@Gravydog316]

TAG MATCH! BOOK IT!

[@crypt0nym0ussec57]

Cornette/Russo in the same room would be infinitely more satisfying in my opinion, but still, both are spicy

[@smokeshowwalrus3478]

Crypt0nym0us Sec shultz and stossel as a prelim for corny/Russo

[@JoeChillton]

I tell ya one thing, Schultz is the hero we need, but not deserve.

[@ronniefox5025]

Very well put sir.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

Yeah, remember how there was that huge spike in the number of people who thought pro wrestling was a legitimate athletic competition after Schultz slapped Stossel? Yeah, me neither.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@streetsofsouthphilly Nevertheless. I still smile when I think about it. And the guy wasn't hurt. He was pushed. Fuck Stossel. I guarantee Schultz could have hurt him if he wanted.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@@ThereIsNoLord that 20/20 report made Stossel. It cost Schultz $425,000 to commit career suicide on national TV. God knows how many payoffs Vince McMahon had to make to keep criminal charges from being filed. And nobody believes professional wrestling is real. Then in 1988 Schultz went on Morton Downey Jr to act like a deranged psychopath so he could defend the honor of the ring boy molesters. And he got silenced by an audience member who asked why Vegas didn't take action on wrestling. Dr D screwed Dr D and he failed. No one thinks professional wrestling is real.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@streetsofsouthphilly Payoffs to avoid a dipshit simple assault case? Unlikely. Plus he wasn't hurt. But was it the right thing to do for the Doctor's career? I can't disagree. He made some bad decisions trying to work too hard. But he was still a great heel.

[@ericrobbins2070]

Thank you for adding more insight into Dr D's background and explaining more about why he protected the business. Originally I just took it as when two very cocky guys met. One could back it up and the other couldn't.

[@noiserocker]

He did it for us to talk about to this day. Worth it.

[@stevenking4963]

Thank you for being apart of this series! I am addicted to the series and your perspective is always fantastic.

[@edtimmons6943]

Stossel was told not to mention if it was fake or not. He asked Schultz numerous questions b4 that. He was getting mad because he wasnt pissing anyone off. Now thats what i heard from interviews and stuff Ive listened to. AWESOME SCHULTZ!!!

[@akuma4u]

Stossel tried to milk the wwf for millions. Lied about his injuries. Bullshitter. On top of that before he gets slapped he goes "im going to ask the standard question" then instead of asking a question he makes a snobby criticism or remark saying "i think this is fake". What did he expect was gonna happen.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

It is fake. How did Dr D change that?

[@akuma4u]

@MemphoWrasslin1 i heard he got millions. Maybe he sued for millions but i just looked up he settled out of court for 425k

[@akuma4u]

@@streetsofsouthphilly yes its fake but thr way he went about it. His tone of voice he was being a cocky smartass and looked as if he was purposely trying to bury the biz and make it a joke. If i was stossel i wouldve been like "i was wondering if u could clear the air and tell me, is this real?"

[@akuma4u]

@MemphoWrasslin1 could be after fees yes.. i always was under the impression he got millions cuz years ago thats what i heard. Now i hate him less cuz he got less lol but still hes a dick.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@@akuma4u Fair enough. It does get tiresome constantly hearing smug douches saying "Wrestling? That's fake" like they're crushing your dreams. Like people haven't known since the 1930s.

[@phillipchampion2]

Imagine if the reporter said this to Orange Cassidy, those kicks he throws...

[@ThereIsNoLord]

Good comment. It is fun to imagine how OC would have handled this. "You think this is fake? This is an extremely gentle kick. But a real one."

[@atfmedia9540]

Stossel is fortunate he wasn't hit by the greatest wrestler of all-time - Ronnie Garvin. His hands were made of stone.

[@johnaskings527]

Or Haku.

[@Sethrod8]

ATF Media Imagine if he got hit by Ox Baker’s heart punch 😖

[@horrorfan4-life689]

Or Ron Simmons

[@Sethrod8]

Horror Fan 4-Life DAMN

[@christopherr3676]

Or Lanny poffo lol

[@jameshurtado5389]

Stossel was lucky he didn’t say that to Terry Funk or his dad

[@DodgerFan1988]

Or Haku

[@MetalJT24]

Stossel is still salty about getting slapped.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

He was Dr. Death's bitch with just one slap.

[@Gravydog316]

Corny: "SLAP 'EM! SLAP 'EM LIKE A DOG!!"

[@Timmyk5150]

David Crockett: "Lady and Gelm', he done got slapped like a red headed stepchild!!!"

[@jamaalmoses8821]

😂😂😂😂

[@newworldslackertv1011]

Dr. D was a hero for this just like Brett Hart stated.

[@RIDGEMATIC]

Fuji standing there laughing is CLASSIC

[@McMahonHater]

That was the night the NWA & AWA guys all cheered a WWF wrestler. LOL.

THAT’S AN OPEN HAND SLAP!!!

[@piercetapes]

Buzz Aldrin punched a guy for saying the moon landing was fake.

[@snell84]

And Buzz was like 80 when he punched him!

[@ianschroth6575]

Yes he did and I was really glad he did. Sometimes people forget that some old coots have lived to that old age because they are tough as nails. I've known a few old coots that I'd still put my paycheck on in a bar fight.

[@tigerbug69]

@@ianschroth6575 yeah old guys that know how to fight can still knock you out if they catch you right. Headbutt too!😂

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

The difference here is Buzz Aldrin is an American hero and the moon landing actually happened. Schultz slapped Stossel in an attempt to make America believe a gigantic lie that everyone knew was a lie. He failed. Then he went on the Morton Downey Jr Show to protect gay sexual predators in the wrestling business. What a noble cause.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@streetsofsouthphilly Did Dr. D break up with your mom, buddy? Why the hard on for him?

[@wesleywarsmith1113]

Stossel hit the ground faster then gravity could drop you. The worst kind of dive.

[@WorldTravelA320]

I think Belzar dropped faster after being smothered by Hogan's aftershave in that headlock.

[@brolysmash9333]

Have you seen the New York subway slap?

[@CGFIELDS]

Younger fans are ignorant 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@XII-iv1ft]

Yeah and old ass fans are losers lol

[@rocthaice24]

The irony of this is work conditions are still absolutely shit for wrestlers

[@Ycjedi]

"STANDARD QUESTIONS!?"

[@TheodoreSellers]

i like when Cornette shows respect for the business in the way he does in this video. Cornette understands why wrestling is great in a way few people do

[@johnlewisbrooks]

David Schultz slapping Stossel was one of the funniest things ever!😅😅😅

[@Filmation77]

I could see a reality show with Him,New Jack and Steve Blackman as old bounty Hunters that were former Wrestlers

[@wallyhavoc860]

"... stretched from asshole to appetite!" FUCK I love Jim Cornette!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@diamondwchamp]

Wrestling is not fake. Ask any wrestler if the Medical Bills are fake. Like so many wrestlers, I remember Double-A laid up in a hospital not knowing if he would ever work again or live a normal healthy life. Dr. David Schultz is a legit badass. I remember he went to LA right after the Rodney King riots and arrested a criminal who skipped bond. The neighborhood was not very favorable for a blonde hair bounty hunter to enter. here is what's amazing. The WWF ratings increased and arenas yielded higher attendance, while 20/20 ratings decreased.

[@jesterr7133]

I am an old fart, and I started watching pro wrestling in the early 90's, right before kayfabe started to die, and wrestlers still refused to admit it wasn't real. I remember when Vader attacked a reporter in Japan for saying it was fake. I miss those days. It was so much more fun to be a fan when wrestlers didn't have non-kayfabe social media accounts. I miss the days when heels and faces got fired if they were seen in public together. I miss the days when guys who were feuding on tv didn't post pictures of them on vacation together (Strowman and Reigns). I miss the days when heels didn't show up at charity events. I miss the days of being surprised by a wrestler's debut, and not having announced weeks or months beforehand.It was just so much more fun when the wrestlers at least pretended that it was real in public. I tried to get into the business at one point before getting injured, but I have friends who are wrestlers, and I have met many others. A lot of the older guys feel just like Corny does. They remember making tons of money and getting real reactions from people. It just isn't the same anymore. KAYFABE!

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

Jesterr, I get that and I don't like how wrestling is presented these days, but the old model just wouldn't work anymore. Wrestlers were once able to keep their private lives private. That's why their wrestling characters worked. As for Jim Cornette, he is perhaps the best wrestling historian ever, but when he does his Jim Cornette schtick he sounds like a grumpy old man telling neighborhood kids to get off his lawn.

[@mammothenterprises2921]

I taped it at the time and put it on slow motion, he slapped him across the side of either the face or head , never touched his ears.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

Stossel should be charged with perjury and jailed.

[@drexlspivey5828]

To be fair, it is definitely the funniest slap I've ever seen

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

I remember when that episode aired. Everybody talked about it in school the next day. It was the first time anyone had gotten wrestlers to "expose the business" on camera. But for those too young to remember, everybody knew wrestling was predetermined. And the wrestling industry knew that we knew. If John Stossel, Eddie Mansfield, and Jim Wilson hadn't broken kayfabe someone else would have, and if Vince McMahon hadn't taken his promotion national, someone else would have. If you hadn't figured out everything wasn't legit with pro wrestling, someone would tell you. Everybody knew.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@John Doe Schultz believed that if he slapped Stossel hard enough, it would erase the knowledge in the American consciousness that wrestling was predetermined. Although he slapped Stossel twice, he failed spectacularly. He convinced nobody and to this day nobody thinks professional wrestling is real.

[@davidmeichner8346]

Everyone did not know, esp. young people.

[@kenrickeason]

The much I wanna disagree with you, I can't.. You right..

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@@davidmeichner8346 Everybody did know. I was a "young person" then. Everyone I knew knew. I don't think I've ever met anybody who thought wrestling was real.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@John Doe You can watch an Abbott & Costello movie called "Abbott & Costello Foreign Legion". I'll include the link here. The duo play wrestling promoters and in the first five minutes of the film pro wrestling is referred to as predetermined. The movie is from 1950. People knew before then but seventy years ago is long enough. Remember that huge spike in the number of Americans who thought professional wrestling was a legitimate athletic competition after Schultz slapped Stossel? Yeah, me neither. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6jadXiPd5mXl9U

[@SamsarasArt]

That punk got off easy imo. These people risk their health and lives in this business, to have their hard work be dismissed in such a disrespectful way would be infuriating.

[@jack18888]

Schultz should have slapped him and than called Mr. Wonderful over and said hey Paul, you know this guy thinks we're fake? The rest I leave to the imagination.

[@getwhatyougive]

[i was lucky enough to see that, as an 11 year old kid, and I'll tell you what: I felt the bottom drop out of my stomach. I knew Dr. D was the real deal and even my dad looked a little scared.]

[@neilsmith9066]

Dr. D needs a biography on Netflix!!!!

[@Thatdeal79]

“Blast him” reminds me of the story of the dude saying he was gonna “blow up” the restroom. Some people interpret words differently. 😂

[@G_xx_]

Another wrestler even warned this reporter to interview anyone but Shultz

[@mikejoao781]

"I watched the episode last night and never knew about the other asclown that' let the cat out of the bag..."

[@ikill4klondikebars]

Mansfield was a bum.

[@kenrickeason]

It was going to get found out either way it goes.. Was Eddie Mansfield wrong? Yes! But you a fool to not think Pro Wrestling wasn't going to get exposed.. It was slowly getting exposed beforehand it was just got more exposed in the 1980s.. Even Jim Cornette admitted it himself that it started to get exposed around 1985 when outsiders started to see that Pro Wrestling was profitable so they wanted in.. Eddie Mansfield exposed the business but he wasn't the first one to do it.. And besides Real or Not Pro Wrestling still boomed after the 20/20 piece cause it was entertaining.. We wasn't checking if it was fake or not, we wanted to watch Pro Wrestling.. We all know what it is but does that stop us from watching Pro Wrestling.. I hope that's a no! It doesn't stop me..

[@jarrettjordan]

Sam707BFBC exactly. Dr D sacrificed his career to protect a business that turned it's back on him. Mansfield may have been a weasel, but he wasn't wrong.

[@420Horseman]

I was 17 when that happened...still love seeing Schultz knock the ever loving shit out of that hack

[@michaelcasasjr.9291]

It was a fantastic episode! I'm surprised that a movie about Dr. D hasn't been done yet. The dude's life was wild!

[@ThereIsNoLord]

Who else remembers that remote at Dr. D's house with his wife & the iced tea? I'm waiting for something that good again.

[@LongIslandNow]

The man who saved wrestling. True Hero!!!

[@TomFoolery350]

Jesse Ventura said it best, first he called him fake than he sued because it was real 😂

[@jollyjakelovell4787]

Abraham Lincoln Forgot to free the wrasslers!!!!

[@jamirimaj6880]

AEW needs a Dr. D to slap every single one of them

[@fatalsniper3413]

You need a Dr. D in your life... Have you face down...

[@deepvoicegames5024]

I've never seen it until the Dark side of the ring doc. but thought as a wrestling fan after it finished we missed out on a great heel

[@frankjohnson5936]

THE DOCTORS CAREER SHOULD HAVE BEEN RITE UP THERE WITH HOGAN AS A HEAL AN A HERO,WE LOVE DAVID SCHULTZ IN THESE PARTS!!

[@shanepleasants6280]

Schultz was the original Stone Cold

[@jennifer_L7]

“asshole to appetite” 🤣🤣

[@joejacobs3537]

There was a method to Vinces madness...Stossel got slapped and David Shultz got fired...

[@jwridah7]

Jim you the man. I been a fan since a child in the 80s. That documentary of Schultz was interesting he was what wrestling needed hate he had to go thru that drama. Im really enjoying The dark side of ring show on vice

[@gfolkins1]

John Stossel belongs in San Francisco.

[@stevengrvp]

Doctor d got screwed

[@ThereIsNoLord]

He got fired for beating up Mr. T. Not for this.

[@stevengrvp]

@@ThereIsNoLord doctor got screwed by the company in general

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@stevengrvp You can't beat up a celebrity like Mr. T in 1984. You still have to do business. But I still like Schultz. A lot of people got fed up with Mr. T, and with good reason.

[@shaynewest8757]

@@ThereIsNoLord he didn't beat up Mr T he was stopped before he could, he was fired for hitting a fan and had to leave America for a while.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@shaynewest8757 Whatever have you, it wasn't because of this. It is just reinforced in my mind because I can fully see Dr. D not taking any of Mr. T's shit, which Piper barely could.

[@benjones5610]

Just watched this today, Stossel Pissed me off so much I had to talk over him anytime he talked, and I wasn’t even alive for this when it happened.

[@meotv2336]

We love you Jim !!!!!!

[@dquanissavage6287]

Awesome Shoot Today Jim And This Episode Is Legendary!!🙌🐐🐐

[@iczerx01]

I loved this episode of Dark Side of the Ring because it really showed how much of a douche bag Stossel really is. I wish Corny or someone would start a revolutionary promotion where pro wrestling is treated as it was before the fall of Kayfabe. When I heard AEW was going to be a "sports based presentation" I envisioned the good old days, but so far it hasn't lived up to its claims. Who cares if we all know, IMO if an organization treats it like it's not then it takes less effort on our parts to suspend disbelief and enjoy it like we used to.

[@bieberninja1]

russo thinks stossel could beat Dr. D in a shoot

[@bieberninja1]

rusbro, vince....shut up you gay nerd loser haha pwned

[@ryanzealand]

cornette thinks that if stossel came out of a box he would've been over

[@mrmusickhimself]

It disgusts me how Vince used Dr. D as his "attack dog" in defending kayfabe to the media, only to blackball him from the entire industry. There's old episodes of Morton Downey Jr. that featured Dr. D. passionately defending the business, so you just know Vince was nodding his head with approval and pride when it came to those. I'm glad David managed to score a successful tenure as a badass bounty hunter, but it could just as easily went the "Renegade Rick Williams" way. John Stossel is such a piece of shit.

[@Mario_Gillette]

I remember watching the episode of 20/20 when it first aired way back in the day. John Stossel was claiming that he was still suffering from hearing loss after he got popped.

[@yusufgazi7]

Now he has to talk about Grayson Waller's incident

[@johnevors5617]

I remember this as a child.really scared me but I was 5 so there you go

[@davew005]

Great episode ! And both Dr.D and Jim look healthy and full of vigour whereas Eddy Mansfield looks like a 70 year old triple h cosplay lesbian

[@TriplomatX]

I remember this incident because I thought it was Sid Vicious at first. This was during my KaZaa days

[@Toxicplyer]

I would question why New Jack would take it that seirous even though I do like hearing his legendary stories

[@BTLAGS]

Imagine if Stossel asked the question is it fake to New Jack

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

@@BTLAGS New Jack always carried a knife so stabby stabby most likely

[@BTLAGS]

@@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 Stossel would have shit himself being in the same room with new jack. Even if new jack didn't carry his knife on him new jack would have punched stossel in the face and beat him up for disrespecting him.

[@pappy374]

@@BTLAGS "New Jack, Old Jack, Puny Jack or Tough Jack, I don't give a damn!" - Gypsy Joe

[@BTLAGS]

@@pappy374 I saw the video on darkside of the ring he could not feel pain and new jack went and beat on him without remorse

[@richardcoreno]

The 20/20 show was an expose on the biz -- forgotten is the segment on Stossel being "trained" by Eddie Mansfield and essentially trying to show that anyone can become a pro wrestler after a couple quickie lessons.

[@nina2x]

I like John Stossel. Great journalist. I still respect David for protecting the business.

[@Ted_Bell]

First Fake News journalist. Your affection means nothing.

[@nina2x]

@@Ted_Bell Just because you're ignorant or don't agree with him doesn't mean he's "fake news." Also, your opinion means nothing to facts.

[@atchaos4life]

He’s lucky he wasn’t slapped by Hercules

[@Strokes1983]

The documentary on schultz is out. Its here on KZbin I watched it yesterday

[@Drew791]

Eddy Mansfield thinks he was a draw, but the only thing he ever drew was a doodle on a bar napkin! He and Stossel are both pipsquek queefs.

[@insupportofjunhado]

I like how Cornette intimated that the catch as catch guys, as well as the collar and elbow style guys, were among the best wrestlers in the world. Sometimes they'd lose to oil wrestlers, sumos, judoka and what not but often they'd win. What people don't realize is that real wrestling matches can be anything from an exciting three seconds to a sleep inducing thirty hours. There was a match in Detroit that had lasted nine hours that contributed to the rise of kayfabe. Working came from, well, trying to make things actually marketable. What's more, wrestling was getting its ass kicked by a thing called prize fighting, which eventually became the modern form of boxing. True, a boxing match can also last three seconds, but it is actually harder to knock out a guy who is trying to avoid hits and hit you at the same time than it is to pin or submit a man trying to pin or submit you. Especially when you and him can only throw four different kinds of strikes at each other(hook, cross, jab, uppercut). Moreover, such a restricted fist fight is unlikely to last three hours, much less thirty. Definitely not without headgear. The multiple rounds were exciting, but no matter how many there were the fight would be over in a fairly timely fashion. Promoters tried tweaking the rules of wrestling to make it competitive with boxing, but they never found anything that worked. Real wrestlers in the United States were still trying at the turn of the millennium to get "Real Pro Wrestling" a mainstream audience. The closest to success was shooto, where people were allowed to strike and grapple. It turned out the wrestlers beat the boxers most of the time(not really fair when you're used to four moves), but at the same time it has proven hard to win mixed martial arts without some kind of striking and stand up. Plain wrestling, submission grappling and the various offshoots still have comparably niche audiences to boxing even as MMA gradually pushes into its markets. In my opinion worked pro wrestling is something that could have coexisted nicely with mixed martial arts since you can do cool things that would be rare or even impossible in MMA. It took awhile, but it they currently stand together as a united front against other combat sports in Japan. But I think the damage has been done and worked wrestling will ultimately be forgotten by all but a few enthusiasts. I think too much knowledge was lost with the death of the territories.

[@charlesvincent4127]

I don't think professional wrestling is "fake" per se, scripted yes but not fake. These Athletes take big risk with their bodies and health to entertain people and that's commendable.

[@JDubya2k]

Fuji was Iit, Iaughing his ass off

[@IanSane]

It's interesting to think that in 1984 20/20 thought that exposing wrestling was a worthwhile journalistic pursuit. Like every non-fan that thought wrestling was stupid and had an ax to grind against it knew that it was a work. They may not have known about details like blading for example but they knew it was fake. So what is the value of this expose other than to delight in how smug you are for knowing it's fake? It just seems like sticking it to what they see as lowbrow entertainment enjoyed by uncultured people. I doubt any fan that didn't know wrestling was a work watched the show and was enlightened about wrestling's fakeness and stopped watching. The whole thing is just thumbing your nose at a sub-culture you view as inferior. Though what Vince should have done was just not let Stossel into the locker room and tell his guys not to talk to him. It's not like someone has a right to just go into the backstage area of a show they're not a part of.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

The steroid/ring boy scandal did a lot more damage to the business than any expose on wrestling being "fake". Somehow that scandal faded from public memory. I guess Vince paid everybody off.

[@Phicheee]

Yeah, if I were Stossel, I would have done a little more research on the guys I was fixin' to interview before opening my big mouth. Schultz was definitely a legit tough guy who didn't take shit from anybody. Schultz is the kinda guy who would slap a skunk's stripe sideways just for looking at him funny. I understand Stossel has permanent hearing loss from that love tap, and to a nicer guy it couldn't have happened.

[@thack57]

I do have to give Stossell credit for something. One, he had the balls to say that to Schultzy, who EVEN if you didn't know his rep, he looked + SOUNDED scary but the real Kicker is that a few yrs back Stossell talked about his financial 'windfall' (if you can call collecting money to have David Schultz slap the shite of you a windfall) and Stossell said, after he collected the money he said that all the pain in his ear was gone. That's pretty honest.

[@Reldvs1]

I think Dr D was trying to create a Jerry Lawler moment like with Andy back in the day. That's what I think.

[@Spaceman1968]

Someone say “what the hell is wrong with you?” I wonder if that was Vince. You can see Sheik and Fuji is the background.

[@eerslink5498]

Stossel pretty much got what he was asking for. You don't run up in a big, angry guy's face and start smart assing him; that's just common sense. Too bad that Schultz got thrown under the bus for it.

[@johnb.2006]

I wonder if Stossel still thinks it's fake. Because we could always have the "The Chest Slap heard around the world" and have a shirtless Stossel stand in the corner and have Big Show deliver one of those open hand slaps to his chest. Wrestling fans you know the type when Show would go "Shhhhh" to the crowd beforehand and then WHACK!