EVO vs STI.. 700HP SUBARU WRX STI vs 650HP MITSUBISHI EVO 8

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[@juliocruz5084]

Subaru driver didn’t know how to drive, Evo driver knew his car and how to shift his car. Hats off for the Evo driver

[@kevinharker1840]

Correct.

[@nicholaswimbus3277]

Exactly what I was thinking plus the eco driver knew he was sitting over 650bhp

[@lolbots]

wtaf, that clown should not be anywhere near a track

[@nitrogxn4075]

Right, his shifts were magical man ! I loved everything about that evo, respect for Sam

[@gemazz2465]

100%

[@user-cp8jz8vl8t]

That evo was definitely a monster, could have been a better race with more experience for the subi driver, but that gearbox on the evo was absolutely the goat of this video!

[@nitrogxn4075]

Right, the shifts on the evo were super clean !

[@Zerofightervi]

Finally, an Evo owner who knows how to drive his car.

[@SamConnaught]

❤❤❤❤

[@lw_evo1760]

lol I would love a ppg box to beat on

[@tripmurphy]

​@@SamConnaughta proper build cars. The turbo choice was perfect

[@SamConnaught]

@tripmurphy thank you dude, that turbo is definitely a sweet spot. I will be going full frame 6466 next tho

[@tripmurphy]

@@SamConnaught nice. Can't wait to see you on this channel again

[@larrylatouche1]

The Evo was amazingly quick.....someone in this comments made the suggestion of the Evo going against Affi's Skyline....Jamie, let's make this happen...both drivers are top tier..This will certainly be an interesting match-up

[@locky2562]

What a nonce

[@pedronunes31]

when you see an Evo without a wing, you know that thing will be anything but stock 😂

[@ericvermeulen9853]

Yes it seems to look like a dog pulling its ears down just before it bites the shit out of you

[@majinsbo]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Holmesson]

Or it's just an RS.

[@3nd4tom1c8]

​@@Holmessonrs still had a spoiler

[@Holmesson]

@@3nd4tom1c8 I'm 100% certain that EVO VIII RS cars came with no rear spoiler, at least in North America.

[@GEARED_MrLucas]

There's a saying.... 'Never trust a wingless Evo' 💁🏻‍♂️😄 What a rocket! Great video as always Jamie 💙

[@t33ejr59]

No way that subaru is 700bhp 😮, i wouldnt even think its 500bhp the way its being driven

[@beefenbrudas7169]

I think it probably is, it's obviously a quick car, I think the evo is just way more of a monster lol. Way better driving + that thing must be like 800hp lol

[@owaishussain5429]

Yeh no chance that Scooby is 700 after getting smoke like that or it's probably the evo who is not running '650' there's no proof he's probably 800 u never know

[@danep389]

You can hear that sti ent close to 700 no way

[@user-ry8og3tf4q]

Subarus are well known to have terrible gear ratios and drivetrain loss...

[@longdomedia]

if it was 700whp, by that logic it would be closer to 800+ at the crank which it most definately isn't. If it made 700whp+ on a dyno, it was probably a mustang dyno, putting it closer to 600whp if that 😅 but there's no way, the difference is almost insane

[@kennycampbell1719]

Hats off to Sam, he drove that EVO like it was supposed to, makes me miss my 4G63 days🔥

[@Felipe-cp1yo]

We need to see Sam's Evo 8 vs Affi's R34

[@Dragoninja35]

Agreed

[@Vteccer666]

or Lukes S15

[@SamConnaught]

I'm game for either

[@Dragoninja35]

@@SamConnaught Awesome car buddy 😍😍

[@jennyhoffmann3054]

or Andy's scoob against the evo... Nah he would smoke the evo either way

[@mikeCupra]

A proper tuned evo. Congrats to the owner engineer, the subi something isn't correct at the setup.. maybe gearbox or the working powerband of turbo but thet times don't lie. Congrats Jamie for another amazing battle again!!!

[@ObsesifAdam]

As I'm a Subaru owner and a Subaru fanboy, i love this Evo. I think it's redline begins from 20.000 rpm. Also It sounds very impressive :)

[@jrkin]

Team Subie all day!

[@dylanheat]

Legit

[@ivandanvervittali3817]

@@jrkin hows yah head gasket?

[@jrkin]

@@ivandanvervittali3817 replaceable

[@joshj3062]

20,000rpm redline? hahaha youre a joker

[@Mik3Mcflyy]

Evo drivetrain made a huge difference. Shoutout to both drivers especially the evo driver for rippin it

[@dreamer_9014]

This EVO is MAD! We need to see him vs Affi 😁

[@trenpower2122]

He’s got no chance with affi lol

[@duaneclery6790]

Dunno he’s beat Affi’s time on Awd leaderboard!!!! And they both look like can they drive…..

[@beryl762mm]

​@@duaneclery6790i think the evo might get the dub.

[@SamConnaught]

@@trenpower2122 lol..

[@Bestviralvideosss]

Well the best and smartest driver in Evo on the internet 🎉. Well done man. That was smooth and fast at the same time

[@paddyjsheridan]

That evo drivetrain made the difference for sure. I’d say he’s close to 700 but every gear change he jumped ahead. Nice.

[@Anax100]

That's just a power difference. There's nothing innately better about these drivetrains at that low power level.

[@SamConnaught]

@Anax100 seen you comment everywhere on this video pal. Please stop your lack of knowledge and uneducated comments are making you look silly and salty. Thanks ❤️

[@barbosaguzman6101]

​@@SamConnaught got both cars to make that comment? It is a power difference, subaru over estimated power levels. Having had both and taken them to the limits I can tell you ... the subaru is the better car - kept the prodrive sold the evo 😂😂😂😂

[@SamConnaught]

@@barbosaguzman6101 I don't remember asking 😅

[@barbosaguzman6101]

@@SamConnaught exactly.. typical ford fiesta owner response. Now go disappear.

[@sup3rwiz4rd]

The way that evo pulls, simply amazing

[@AyaxRo]

The smile on the Evo owner.. priceless.

[@paultaylor5358]

The Drag gear set and smaller rims helped the evo destroy the Scooby. Both legendary cars, respect to both of them for spanking their cars 👊❤

[@SamConnaught]

This guy gets it 👏

[@clintonnaicker4918]

Better tyres on the evo and the wing delete definitely helps it aero wise for straight line drag racing

[@breeeee8252]

@@SamConnaught Monstrous car bro. Well made, well driven.

[@SamConnaught]

@breeeee8252 thank you lad ❤️❤️

[@octanin]

​@@clintonnaicker4918Major thing is the gearbox mate

[@DezzBoosted]

The Scooby def needs a driver, at the rolling he was keeping the car way too back and unloaded! Hats off for the evo and its driver! Would love to see this run agains Harrys sequential Hawkey or Rob’s Blue STI. Think they are a better level to this evo 😁

[@nedson6503]

I think it would be better if the Subaru or any underdog set the pace in the role race.

[@Alexnahar]

The scooby will be 700bhp but only at 4500 rpm in 3rd for a brief moment on the dyno graph and probs has a useable 500bhp. The evo has the better map he probably has access to the 650bhp for a longer period through out the majority of his rev range thats what a good map can do for you.

[@antoniofreitas5823]

Alot better powerband on the evo and long gear ratio makes the diference

[@Alexnahar]

@antoniofreitas5823 if the scooby had more of an aggressive map for instant the turbo to spoole earlier or anti lag the power band would widen that doesn't fix the gearing however the race would of been less sided on the rolls if that make sense. Regardless the evo has a smaller turbo making it easier to spoole and produce boose lower down in the rpm the gearing on the evo was the icing on the cake.

[@garage5125]

that PPG gearbox also made good diffrence, despite the subaru driver making pretty good shifts for a subaru gearbox, that PPGd evo with probably a better powerband just made the thing, especially compared with the stock evo gearbox

[@mikemeyers336]

Subie should’ve had a run at setting pace since I’m sure the gearing is different in both cars, would’ve been nice to see it in boost on the rolls

[@tonydixon2684]

You can tell the people that know nothing about cars when they claim the evo must be 800bhp. Can't understand anything that's not in 'stage' format, there's a lot more to a fast car than peak bhp numbers.

[@abdullahcotwal6935]

Man be sending those gearshifts in the evo . Well done

[@onedropreggaedvd]

The smile on the Evo driver’s face is priceless 😂

[@SamConnaught]

Hello Comment Section... Thanks for all the love 🥰 P.S There is no way my car makes close to 800bhp, physically not possible! 😅🤣 Gearbox is the real MVP

[@Anax100]

Either your car is not '650' hp or the sub is not '700'. Unless you put your cars on the same dyno before the runs, these headlines just annoy tf out of everyone. I expect to see sandbagging on Hoonigan channel as that's what they do, but this clickbait is getting old. There's nothing good enough about either platform at these low power levels to outdo a hp difference. If we were in the 1200hp + range then yeah, traction and driving skill can be all the difference.

[@SamConnaught]

@@Anax100 okay 👍 🤣🤣

[@Matt-de5lt]

@@Anax100tell me you know nothing about cars without telling me you know nothing about cars ^^^

[@tookiebroon]

@@Anax100you talk out your arse

[@sternenwandererpsytravelre3297]

Dude you are my hero man. Insane Evo bullet you got there - even while idle everyone can hear that this thing has to be taken serious if theyre really consider to race you :D props from germany cheers

[@Sdwiked]

Gotta be the fastest stock frame turbo Evo out there ! Well done Sam 👍

[@SamConnaught]

Thank you dude! Some in the comments that gets it lol! I think I'm the fastest Stock Location in the UK. Doubtful in the States tho 🤙

[@adamshmeissem2986]

@@SamConnaughtyou gotta come to australia bro they’re pushing 1000+ here hahahah

[@Jay_emm]

@@adamshmeissem2986 … stock location 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@tiagoabreu4107]

​@@adamshmeissem2986Greece the same.

[@ryanhindmarch5839]

@@SamConnaughtI need my evo 9 to perform like that 8, what a weapon mate 👍🏻

[@ikbenjevader191]

Love evo’s bro. They are great at everything, rally, dragracing, hillclimb/time-attack

[@JJ-sx6de]

Every petrol head knows the bhp of their car. When a guy says he doesn't know, you know what time it is 😂

[@TheKaneo1]

👍🏿😪🤣🤣🤣

[@andy110492]

Not always i brought my megane rs thinking it was 260bhp after playing with a few cars got it on a rolling road came out at 295bhp with just breather mods and 99ron fuel, its not big power but makes a difference

[@SamConnaught]

Nope don't know it.

[@zethloveless7238]

No, that’s not true lol. Many many many guys have street tunes and there is alot of upside to street tuning a vehicle. He will know his power from fuel flow but no exacts.

[@LiamG4299]

Drone is definitely needed for all those close races on previous videos! Nice little touch🤘🏼

[@alexbakermault4518]

Bring out the drone in future, you really see the journey to Gapistan!

[@Brad8261]

500bhp Subaru vs 800bhp evo. 👀😂

[@E63s_Scott]

Was never going to end well for that poor scooby 😂

[@davebradley641]

Evo driver knew he was going clean up. See it in the smug look on his face 😂

[@lolbots]

driver lost 200bhp by driving like a granny

[@garage5125]

@@lolbots i am not sure if granny would drive like that, he was shifting fast for what the stock transmission is. its not a bad transmission, but not built for lightning fast shifts like the PPG. Go behind a wheel of ural truck and try to shift like Sam, it will rip your hand off...😂😂

[@boostedscooby1]

Having owned a 2005 sti back in 2005 and a 2006 Evo 8 . Both stock the Evo had a better transmission and gearing than the sti did. This drag race proves it . Currently own a 2019 audi rs3 and the audi makes both my old cars feel like turtles 🐢

[@rosshampson366]

A 57mm turbo wont push any much more than 650 to 680 max. All these 900 ppl have no clue. The Impreza is clearly not 715bhp and if it did get that id be checking the logs as a 7+sec 100 to 200 for 700bhp+ isnt right.

[@SuperSlowSTI10]

a 650hp evo is not doing 5sec 100-200 lets be realistic here

[@justingreenidge9684]

Ur clearly delusional no way that evo is 650 that’s probably 800-900 look at the times

[@rosshampson366]

@@justingreenidge9684 please send me a link where i can buy a 57mm turbo that'll do 900bhp on a 2ltr engine 🙈🙈

[@rosshampson366]

@@SuperSlowSTI10 looks at the fact. Its a 57mm turbo and its done a 5 something

[@SuperSlowSTI10]

@@rosshampson366 g30 770 can make 800 with 57.5mm cw🙈

[@Prodigy70]

Gotta love those FP turbos and those long gears. 4g63T 🔥🔥🔥

[@SubieFrancis]

STI is absolutely not 700hp. Looks to be 400hp+. There is a noticeable difference when you hit 500hp+ in a scooby let alone its claims of being 700hp 😂Evo looks to be way more than 650hp but never been in one to really judge

[@tundaslug07]

Suffering from what seems to be a lot of turbo lag also the placement of the turbo means the headers have to be really long meaning it's gonna develop up top

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

Evo is 650whp 780 to 800 crank..sto has way less than 600 to the wheel ..all is how they said no lies

[@smithy_evomr9507]

Behave yourself 400+. I was there watching and you could tell it was quick!

[@SamConnaught]

@@commantrosexetlos4700 57mm stock frame turbo won't make close to 800. 😅 simple physics 👌 thanks for the comment tho lol

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

@@SamConnaught 🤣 that gap is 100hp..57mm or not..physics..and it's not only the turbo that's gives power ..a fully built engine plays a huge part of it..turbo is only a fraction of the story ..that gap is a 100hp plus gap..if its the engine or turbo or weight we don't really know..what we know it's the result

[@dannyrae09]

This is the out come when you build a roll racing car. Not just a street car like your average evo’s. It’s built, tuned and spec’ed by Sam. An absolute animal of an evo and a testament to all his hard work 😎 I’m laughing hard at all these guys saying 800+ 🤣

[@SamConnaught]

MVP comment bud. You get it

[@aaronquirke362]

Probably is more than 700hp anyway

[@salmak9148]

Love these weekly challenges Jamie, well done, and keep up the good work 👍

[@thetiagomatos]

As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew this was gonna be good... evo 8 is my dream car

[@Rev.Match.Reviews]

I know sam said he hasnt dynoed the evo, but im super curious what the curve would look like. Given stock frame but some crazy hybrid setup, i can imagine that low down torque hit is what makes this a monster. The 900 hp capable turbo on the subie took forever to make power and even then it didnt make much. That stock frame turbo evo just makes power EVERYWHERE im guessing.

[@SamConnaught]

Bingo 👌

[@imacahguy]

Is it 900hp capable though? Or is that just the name of the turbo.

[@momoknows]

the shifters make a huge difference throwing straight up and down is quicker and more efficient than the standard Manual shifter in the subie Great Video

[@lukekindred1999]

Blows my mind what that evo can do on a 57mm turbo - mega props to you Sam been following you and the Evo for a while and this is a prime example of what you can do - big up 🤌🏻🤌🏻

[@SamConnaught]

Top comment matey, thanks alot ❤️👌

[@Karl_Kampfwagen]

Everyone gets hung up on the idea that "a larger turbine will make more boost at a given shaft RPM," without ever considering if their engine produces enough exhaust at lower RPM to actually keep the turbo spooled enough to provide useful power. A smaller turbine size will maintain boost consistently, flutter and surge less, spool up faster at a given RPM, etc.

[@Dragoninja35]

That evo is a beast and Sam Definitely knows how to drive it aswell 😍😍 💨💨🔥🔥

[@craigdavieed3692]

Really dissapointed with the Scooby, thought it would have lit that Evo up. That Evo was on fire, good driving, that evo revs out quick man!

[@chriscringle9263]

The Subaru did well for being stock 🤣🤣🤣

[@3aeren]

​@Landon-si5xc selam bro, this isn't how dawah should be conducted

[@orbytl2799]

@Landon-si5xc amen

[@KittyCatYoshi94]

Yo that evo is nuts... "all right boys ill turn hard boost on this time"🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

[@Beans_4_tea]

Nothing that impreza could have done. Evo had a trick gearbox and obviously more power

[@lespaulguitarist92]

the subie driver suck and obviously his car isn't set up right and efficiently. subie guy running a much bigger turbo and can't reel in the evo.

[@stevenmagee9097]

You can hear the evo is set up for roll races listen to that last gear. Class video Jamie as always

[@tmoneyirl]

Evo screamer pipe was ridiculous 🤣 sounded epic, and that 4th gear was never ending 🤣

[@DrivenDistrict]

As someone who LOVES Evo's and owned 3 of them, happy to see the Evo take the win! And damn Sam can freaking drive! Those shifts are on point 💪 Respect to the Subaru, great rivalry! 🙌

[@AdDaManGT]

Well done Sam. Finally on the big stage. Can't believe no one saw that nitrous bottle. Mad.

[@SamConnaught]

Ahahha nitrous bottle 😅😅😅😅 Bottles are for babies 👶

[@mitsuevo8mr]

No nitrous! Evo is just faster than STI!

[@LaoRv]

EPIC battle! Respect to both drivers!

[@SPQR_GuiGui]

No way that STI is 700hp…. I’d guess at most 550hp…😔

[@SubieFrancis]

Exactly.

[@unrealhit88]

You don’t understand evo always walks a subie I have both and can attest to this

[@SPQR_GuiGui]

@@unrealhit88 100-200 doesn’t lie… the STI doesn’t have 700hp… if it did, it would be in the low 6 seconds at least

[@Umar-gw6fy]

@@unrealhit88 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4GmioiHj7KHY9E a real 700hp sti smokes a 650hp evo

[@andykane9866]

​@@unrealhit88😂

[@MrJDuzz]

That evo ❤❤❤ kudos to the driver! Man knows his motor!!!

[@Lakisleon]

Nice camera view on 08:15. Nice shifting for the evo owner, reminds me of Affi with the Skyline. (maybe a race between them?)

[@tomdodson6293]

That’s definitely a race that needs to happen 👌🏻

[@kalithor1]

I think the car that sets the pace has an advantage since when they hit the mark the evo was already in boost and the STI was coming into boost

[@lodewykgroenewald5704]

Both cars are very impressive, but the Evo is on another level. The owner drives it like its stolen.. and its a testament to his build quality.

[@SamConnaught]

Thank you matey, appreciate that comment ❤️

[@XxSnIpEdXx21]

Deffo get that evo on the dyno day battles 😅 see whose cars are running their quoted figures! 😎

[@dazzathedaddy939]

That engine bay is so nice the red just bounces off the black 🔥

[@peter8084]

Unfortunately all show and no go on this occasion !

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

i put 4.44 gears in my subaru - LSD 2 way rear - street straight line - ej207 ra sti jdm - swapped EVO was usually ahead before starting !

[@simondarrie666]

Evo should have just turned the boost off to give the scooby a chance 😂😂❤❤

[@benh745]

Holy shit Sam fucks hard with that Evo. Love it when an Evo gets driven hard, it really shows what a well built platform can do in the right hands. Props to Sam 🎉

[@SamConnaught]

Thank you matey 👌 👍

[@enzole510]

For reference theres a 700bhp scooby ran faster than that evos times so it's probably around 680hp . That scooby today wasnt 700

[@mob8174]

Evo is set perfect👌👌 and no way that scooby is 700 defo less

[@JordanW92x]

I think the evo is around a 150-200 bhp up on the scooby

[@KimboEK4]

Great JDM Battle, i love this :) I would choose the Mitsubishi, I think that gearbox made a lot difference between the cars.

[@ThrottleBody]

Loving the finish line drone shots Jamie. Subaru guy…have a word with yourself 😂 may not have changed the result but it sounded like the rolling races were in a gear too high.

[@fn2mike210]

Thought exactly the same! Don't think he was even in boost

[@Jimbos_a_Zed]

Absolutely ringing the Evo's neck. Love it!

[@pacpacpacpacpac]

Finally an Evo with good mapping and a good driver ;)

[@SamConnaught]

❤️🤙

[@crxtodd16]

Heck yes. Sam's EVO rips!!!

[@fivezighen]

Evo driver definitely knows the sweet spot

[@Hann1bal_bca]

You can tell the Evo driver felt bad for gapping him so hard on the second run 🤣 That Evo is my dream car tho. Acceleration on that thing is mad when you build it right 🚀

[@jusssta5559]

That drag gearbox in Evo won everything

[@A91xK24]

I've owned both, and both are great cars. The evo will always be faster, but the sti is the more comfy car light to light driving so just depends what you want. Great video!

[@jameswaitokia4790]

yeah man there buckets seats were a game changer the recaro in the evo one is the most comfortable seat ever though

[@daturbo4life711]

Not always faster, just depends who has better mods usually wins

[@groove775]

You're clearly a Subbie fan! 😅 THAT'S why I love my EVO! People always expect the STI to win! LET'S GO!!! EVO TEAM! It's not so much about HP, but how you Tune all of that power!

[@xninpo]

The subie has a garrett g35?? No wonder hes spooling soo late… sorry mate but u‘ve chose the wrong turbo for this engine setup

[@giannissalas1300]

Νο way 700hp sti .....the evo owner smash it!

[@Tony_K20_EJ2]

Yeah I think the horsepower in both them cars are a little off don’t you think 😂 but evo guy is a driver tho 👌🏼

[@JDMz]

Don't forget. You lose 25% horsepower through awd

[@Tony_K20_EJ2]

@@JDMz the times they were doing tells the story 👌🏼

[@nine182]

@@JDMzThey are both awd

[@spookyreaper1702]

Subaru is 450-480hp max

[@terrybarents6101]

Well done Sam. You have that set up extremely well.

[@user-wl3eb1jw3o]

Granny shifting not double clutching like you should 😂

[@giocoby]

Well tuned EVO + Good DRIVER = Win

[@speedfek]

The gearbox is one of the most important things here. EVO clearly had the better setup. Those shifts and power transfer on the EVO were madness.

[@gperformance95]

pure madness

[@aalonbullard9320]

Sam NEEEEDSSS to be back

[@Rayonman31]

Brooo…some of them gear changes where on point! That evo slaps hard 👏🏼👏🏼

[@XiseTK]

Guy in the EVO making faces like the Link ECU guy during his launch

[@jonlipton9079]

That is one insane evo. Gotta love when 2 legendary cars go at it.

[@he--ru362]

Best presentation shoot out in a long time!!!!! Straight forward to the point,and handed out with a side of stats at the end. Thank you!!!

[@naturalsleepsounds1420]

That evo is sick❤

[@deejay4837]

Love watching the drivers' expressions as they rip down the way....freaking great!

[@luketaplin42]

That Evo is absolutely the nuts Love both cars respect ✊ Top race guys ❤

[@kurtv8354]

I must admit, always being an evo fan, ever since my first watch of fast & furious, I just had an overwhelming sense that it was gana roll that scooby up from start to finish!! Needless to say, im still a die hard fan of the evo nd don't think it'll ever drop lol!! Even more so after watching this vid lol!! ❤ 😂

[@JesusismyAirBag0]

SUBARU sama 👏🙌🫶💫✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️ LOADING Bo00OOOST🐌

[@Scotts23]

The bloke who you have on the finish line REALLY NEEDS TO GO TO SPECSAVERS apart from that fantastic video as always Jamie that evo's pretty special 👍🏼

[@joelstephen907]

I remember an OG drag race with a 650hp Evo 8. And I think it did 11.3 1/4 mile or something. So Jamie saying 650+ have me wondering "does it mean 700hp😅". And the wrx is way under 700hp

[@MariDiGennahVLOGS]

EVO all day and i just started watching!! But been Evo gang since a kid!!

[@davianalexander1844]

The Evo have a quick shifter the subaru have a normal gear box that's the problem

[@asohamza3952]

Wanted an evo all my life but priorities never let me but now I NEED one 🤲

[@s2k_lover354]

the sti is not 700 not even close is like 500 somoene is been told lies...

[@gordoncrouch7766]

agree dosent look like 700

[@s2k_lover354]

I am an owner of an sti and the previous owner though it was 700 it was 480 and i got it 5k less cause of this so becarfull of the fake horses...

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

Awesome Sequential Evo! Congrats on the 0-60 record! Nice coverage on the wrap also. Thx

[@aaronliddell4280]

Embarrassing for the Subie crowd

[@pilolafamily9939]

As STI owner. Yup Evo nasty. Sometimes don’t matter your whp just matter how the car set up. STI need work to give that evo run for its money. Still both sick add build and cars nothing wrong with losing. Always someone better and faster. Just makes you get better and faster !!!!

[@Anotherboost]

Impressive runs for the evo. Dogbox and tuning are on point for 650ish.