“Oi vs. Oy” British Food vs. Jewish Food | Lovett or Leave It Podcast

Cover the mirrors and don your kippah, it’s time to pay your respects to Lilibit. Guy Branum brought some rugelach to share with Zachary Schiffman as they decide if the British or the Jewish have better food.
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[@colormegrumpy]

Everyone knows the best British food is Indian food.

[@rneumeye]

No matzo balls? 🤷🏻‍♂️ No English muffins? 🤷🏻‍♂️ No Manischewitz?🤷🏻‍♂️ No fish and chips? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Stop the steal. 🧐😅

[@Tao_Tology]

When they all colluded in the LIE that bagels are better than scones, the fix was in.

[@flowerpower2453]

Fun fact, the Vulcan Salute🖖 is actually just a Jewish Kohanim’s gesture for a blessing. Leonard Nimoy (who is Jewish) had seen it as a child, decided that the Vulcans should have their own hand signal, and decided to use that.

[@Ma_Ba]

There's a you tube clip of him discussing that. Think Boston public tv and/or his son was filming a doc bio of him. (I saved it in a playlist, so may edit with link later.)

[@Ma_Ba]

Yiddish Mr. Spock Leonard Nimoy entitled playlist including clips from Yiddish Book Center, Foundation INTERVIEWS, GBH News,and NY Times for the origin story and more.

[@niamhperreault4844]

Here in Providence RI laughing my damn ass off at the accuracy, we are 100% the gay neighborhood of Boston. Oh and PS our bagels are better too.

[@kateyaquilina8910]

As a secular humanist whose partner is Jewish, I've tried to make charoset for Passover. I was very excited and proud of it..... Cut to my partner informing me that what I really made, was a delicious fruit salsa. Was it charoset? No. Does he now ask for fruit salsa for Passover? Yes.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

who picks liver over dessert!? I call shenanigans! XD

[@cptjeff1]

Who picks liver over anything? Vile stuff.

[@ChefMimsy]

This is an old Jewish chef's dream episode. You were wrong on a couple of things, but you're forgiven(I'm also a Jewish mother).

[@bitchenboutique6953]

“Fuck. I sure have eaten.” Guy really knows me.

[@RabbiJoeInJerusalem]

Guy nails it: No chreyn, no gain.

[@Pratchettgaiman]

There's a reason why the most iconic British food, fish and chips, was brought to the UK by Portugese Jewish refugees

[@brendabrass2715]

Yeah bagels! "Don't trust a food you move with" 😂

[@miss_elaineous_]

No fish and chips, no mushy peas, no Yorkshire pudding, no Sunday roast, no cottage or shepherd's pie, no bubble and squeak, no beef Wellington, no Colman's, no chicken tikka masala???? No kugel, matzo ball soup, latkes, sufganiyot, kibbeh, pickles, challah, or babka?? Look, I'm a gentile American with minimal skin in the game, culturally speaking. I am, however, a person who loves food and eats a lot of it. So I demand a new bracket!

[@Dan-ib5cr]

Something tells me these people have never had a true full English.

[@critterkarma]

My brother lives on Vancouver Island, and when he visits me, (metro NY area) his first meal, is always,a pumpernickel bagel, with a schmeer, and lox or white fish, with a slice of tomato and Red onion. He says the closest thing he can get out there, is a bread donut, and smoked salmon.

[@ToniGlick]

They don't have Solly's on Vancouver Island? He should visit Vancouver more often.

[@jaelo2314]

Ok my head is full. I learned more than my daily quota here. Nap time!

[@rustyb2692]

This was AWESOME, thanks Jon👏👏👏❤️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@WinstonTheFrog]

Okay but if the real #1 seed Yorkshire Puddings were in the finals against bagels who wins? I don't know it's too hard to choose

[@Tao_Tology]

Including yorkshire puddings would be like including superman in a 'world's strongest' competition.

[@LimorG]

Bagels win over most foods in the world, tbh

[@Tao_Tology]

@@LimorG Only because some places, tragic places, don't have Yorkshire puddings to compare them with.

[@shelleycoopersmith855]

Yay for Montreal bagels! Fun show

[@TimesFM4532]

Mean in Scotland we fry everything and wash it down with beer which has nothing to do with us being in the castle dungeon of health statistics

[@anthonydelfino6171]

Surely you're still not as bad as Mississippi....

[@TimesFM4532]

@@anthonydelfino6171 it’s be a a close one unfortunately

[@duncansonoryan]

my Scottish great granny made chopped liver for my grandad all the time.

[@LuvNickynGina4ever]

i love him for defending bangers and mash 💗🇮🇪

[@rneumeye]

Guy is right... Lovett is most definitely an old Jewish women. 😌🧑🏼‍🦳

[@hayzeed5522]

Jon, if you're ever in Massachusetts, KatzBagels in Chelsea is where you go.

[@podsaveamerica]

Noted! ;)

[@GGoAwayy]

12:55 Reminds me of Mariel Hemingway's character's order from Delirious... "lox and cream cheese on cinnamon toast"

[@daphneblake2261]

as the person who did the shushing, my mother and i did talk about it during the car ride home

[@GlassSpiider]

Okay yeah but, well, now I *am* going to be saying, "What am I, spotted dick?"

[@Kuro_Tsuki]

SAME

[@SillyTube9]

“Mengele tested Nutella.” As the allergically nut-averse, I have to say, this is pure fact.

[@ToniGlick]

instead of Scones, you need to eat a biscuit made with and slathered in butter. i have an amazing recipe for cheese scones where you grate the butter into the batter - they are not dry. Bagels are great too and authentic bagels are made correctly (boiled then baked) and taste better.

[@etiennemt.fevrier]

I love this show. 😂😂😂

[@catherinereynolds9644]

Sweet panel, good competition. Oi!☮️💜

[@chichonete]

This was awesome!

[@cptjeff1]

Yes, Worcestershire sauce *can* last for years, but I use that shit constantly, never had a bottle last longer than a couple months. Put it in your eggs or hashbrowns, your life will be happier. Anyway, I'll be trying Worchestershire on a bagel (yes, I keep them in my freezer, sorry Jon) tomorrow, because why the hell not?

[@GlassSpiider]

NICE. Worcestershire sauce is it breakout star and MVP of my mom's Crispix Mix, which she used to crank out by the bucketload every Christmastime. Did you know that Worcestershire sauce, in generous enough quantity, is actually spicy? I know now. Thanks, Mom ♥ So, if you make your own party mix, *always* use too much Worcestershire.

[@SillyTube9]

Here for scones, but only with clotted creme and fresh strawberry jam, because standards. That puts then over the top.

[@edbloom2327]

Thank you.

[@rachelgates509]

We as a nation collectively forget that Gonzaga is a thing and what that thing is until March. And then, having forgotten their existence, I am very impressed they make it as far as however far they make it in the tournament. Case in point, where is Gonzaga? I rest my case.

[@williamdecker3989]

Bagels for the win!

[@ourjamie]

I now want a biegel soaked in Worcestershire such with a thick layer of chopped liver

[@James7995]

Why was this segment perfect?

[@James7995]

Maybe because all three are national treasures? Or is it because they’re all legends?

[@jaelo2314]

@@James7995 yes

[@SevenHunnid]

It’s hispanic heritage month, im a young mexican from the hood that gets high on my KZbin channel & i do food vlogs

[@andreack9983]

Fuck me. I can only have gluten free bagels. Ugh

[@SillyTube9]

Horseradish only belongs in shrimp cocktail sauce, which by definition isn’t kosher. Do you see the conflict? Meanwhile Worcestershire sauce is in Bloody Marys, which is a clear win.

[@TheM0gwai]

That’s why Alison Roman likes it 😂

[@ninaschust3694]

that was funny.

[@TheNo1pencil]

I guess this is how I learn that I want to marry Guy. He is with me on every beat on Judaism. The fact that I'm a woman might be a problem for him though. Guy, if you ever need a beard, you're the nice Jewish man I've been looking for.

[@mrdfpiii]

I can't believe three jewish men chose jewish food over other types of food. I'm shocked to discover bias going on this building. Also I wrote this comment before finishing the video.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

I mean when they chose liver over dessert....

[@TahtahmesDiary]

Right, you gotta love it, all good fun. But I disagree lol ❤

[@godzgoliath]

This just tells me jewish peoples taste buds are warped

[@andreack9983]

I am Kvelling!!!

[@radiokarla]

I love bagels 😅

[@catchingthemoon]

We make awful bagels and say Wooshtasha sauce.

[@Tao_Tology]

Wooster

[@Tao_Tology]

14:43 Guy, they say the name on the show, it's carved onto the prize: Great. British. Bake. Off. stop being pushed around by american corporate flummery.

[@SillyTube9]

Full English. No contest.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

I don't even know what seder dinner is . . .but I hate English breakfast. Who eats baked beans ever, let alone in the morning? 🤢. I'm from Boston, but I hate Dunkin Donuts . . only the inbreds like it. It's watery coffee and stale donuts. Their bagels are just white bread. Boston actually had very good coffee and local coffee roasters. I went to seattle, but thought Boston was better (despite our shitty DD). The "Boston bros" are dying out . . .not fast enough 😂. But some of us are okay. We just can't afford to live in NYC.

[@mightyone3737]

Using ketchup can mean more than one thing, if you're using good quality ketchup, it's a much different animal than the weird stuff they sell in stores that's probably mostly water, sugar and food colouring, at least when you boil the shit out of a half bushel of tomatoes to make a few cups of ketchup, you know what's in it. Similarly, while I generally like whole mustard seed in my cooking, I find the dark yellow (because it's been cooked heavily) mustard is kinda gross, thus I didn't fault Obama for wanting non-garbage food mustard (unfortunately my family keeps buying the bad mustard, and trying to sneak it into my food), I'm not a raccoon, I should have good mustard with my good food. I can definitely taste hot food, but I can also eat some shockingly hot stuff without problem, my limit is straight raw Carolina Reaper peppers, too much of a good thing! I even get a mild buzz out of really hot stuff, which I like because I have a really addictive personality. The winner should have to move up into a new bracket and take on a more serious cuisine, just like those weird leagues with tiers that shove teams down to lower tiers when they stink too bad, Jewish food should have to take on some bigger opponents now! Maybe American, I think anything continental European would be too good, and anywhere warm has fantastic food usually (though there are always dishes that are awful to non-locals for a variety of reasons), I think American is a fair matchup, they took in the best of everywhere, then battered it and deep fried it, and served it with a 'sauce' that's sweeter than the mocked ketchup used on said briskets. You could do the opposite of this and have French and Indian fight it out, I think French is going to be more consistent to the European palate, while Indian shoots the moon now and then and might win anyways, even with some really strange flavour combinations (for a European). THAT SAID, they eat bigass snails in France, so arguably nothing in Indian food is quite that... challenging. My favourite thing about Worcestershier sauce was that it was invented by someone trying to recreate the culinary joy that is found in Indian food, it wasn't good enough to take over India, they had to try to make their own curry as a liquid concentrate. I've eaten a lot more bagel by volume though, so maybe it deserved the win?

[@SillyTube9]

Both foods are bland AF. I’ll take the Brit food. It’s kvetching-free.

[@Emanon...]

Can we have to different channels from crooked media? One for serious political debates and another for all the spinoff satire shows (which I have no interest in)? The pro is that you might end up with two channels with many followers instead of just one...

[@pjwireless]

On this episode of terrible taste....

[@Fuzzypotato2]

Please stop censoring…

[@Pratchettgaiman]

Also a bunch of Jews getting up to disparage Jewish food was hacky back in Marvelous Mrs. Maisel days. Get better material and eat better Jewish food

[@Thomas-yr9ln]

My sister doesn't like Jewish food. When she was in Israel they crossed the border to get Palestinian food because the Jewish food didn't have any flavor. A lot of Palestinian food is the same but the Jewish side they remove all the flavor. It was the same for British food when they occupied Indian. When the British came back home to the UK they couldn't stand British food because it didn't have flavor.

[@Emanon...]

Pretty sure Palestinian food was there before Israel appropriated it and added a "kh" sound to make it more Hebrew. Also, Jewish food is not a thing. Jews in the Middle East had never heard of a bagel or gefilte fisch, just like Jews in Poland had never eaten a dish with eggplant or chickpeas in it... It's telling a story that was never real.

[@Lizzy911]

I am a bit taken a back. Holocaust jokes....Anne frank jokes... not funny to me. I am so proud to be Jewish. I'm okay with certain jokes....but those sorry, they crossed the line.

[@Ozymandi_as]

It's difficult to give advance warning of jokes without neutering them of any humour. A show from Jon Lovett about Jewish food is bound to feature Jewish jokes, and his humour is often somewhat transgressive - so perhaps some transgressive Jewish jokes were to be expected? I don't think his intention is to offend, however, or trivialise either Ann Frank or the Holocaust. Humour is one way that humans tame fear and grief, often in extreme situations. I saw a play a few years ago called Bad Jews, by Joshua Harmon, which examined Jewishness through the eyes of three family members whose different attitude to their Jewish heritage are brought to the fore in the wake of the death of an elder, who happened to have survived Auschwitz. It was deadly serious in its intent, but whip smart and incredibly, tear-jerkingly funny. I also read recently a short story by David Sedaris, which was set in the Ann Frank house in Amsterdam, which he was visiting as a tourist with his partner. He manages to bring whimsy into this solemn setting in such an absurd way that she herself might have laughed, in the way that children do when best behaviour is expected. There's a recording of the author reading it to an audience, somewhere on KZbin, and they certainly appreciated it. So, Lovett is not the first to make jokes about those particular subjects, and he won't be the last. For many Jews, one of their proudest traditions is their sense of humour.

[@PocketMarmo04]

Lovett gets incrementally more irritating each year.

[@Hili24pur]

NO COMPASSION FOR ANIMALS ...this is gross ....These foods are animal murder really gross and Blind to reality .

[@GGoAwayy]

True but that battle is in the entire world at large, and theres no reason this video is particularly egregious compared to... a random food advertisement. At least the bagel won.

[@Ozymandi_as]

Most people are not vegan, either in the Jewish diaspora or Britain. Are you going to rant at them in perpetuity? Scolding people for making jokes about food is not really worth the effort, I imagine, unless you like being angry all the time.