Oklahoma missing moms foul play evidence found near abandoned car | On Balance

[@bethanywhite877]

If the media would take five minutes to pull court documents on the mother and father of this six year custody battle it wouldn’t be really hard to figure out what is going on here. Probably should be questioning the biological father’s family, in my opinion.

[@ArfArfBarkBark]

News media always needs to make everything sensational or emotional at the cost of due diligence :(

[@MissRed92837]

I’m convinced the police is talking to the ex husband and his family. The police is not stupid.

[@ricksomething]

Why don't you tell us then. Instead of beating around the bush. Be an adult.

[@ricksomething]

​@@MissRed92837is not?

[@janicesullivan8942]

The news report mention the fact of the custody battle.

[@bethanywhite877]

The minister’s wife wasn’t going for support. She was going as a court appointed supervisor for the other mother to visit her kids.

[@TG-fq6vy]

Exactly. I’ve seen so many reports that they do not have even the smallest facts correct, completely frustrating.

[@judymurray191]

Wow! How unfortunate! Thanks for the info…I didn’t know that.

[@ghostwalk2446]

Hopefully these journalists take note, thanks for the info

[@naturistfred]

Court appointed supervisor? That's sad. So she was caught up in this family drama and didn't know how ugly it would get.

[@righteousbyfaithinChrist]

Thanks for this bit of information.

[@andrewyoung2796]

The comment section. Is far more informing than the video

[@angelabdreams]

Someone in one of groups posted that the OSBI have been asking about a white truck (Ford or Dodge, maybe) and a horse trailer seen that morning. Let the news catch up to that..

[@kurtvanluven9351]

Really it is

[@FeverDreamRemix]

It usually is.

[@jodyleopold520]

yes, definitely

[@missroseiam]

❓ where is her brother ❓

[@avondalemama470]

This is so sad. It sounds like they were ambushed.

[@Rita-yw2tn]

That’s what I think too .

[@corajones1980]

Exactly

[@sasha86868]

Sad how? She let her brother SA her kids.

[@shawn6561]

​@@sasha86868 even if what you say is true what about the other woman?

[@Floating_Lotus]

100% and i hate to say this but i feel any signs of life were extinguished

[@bettydamnboop3030]

This reeked of foul play from day one.

[@corajones1980]

Exactly that's what I said!

[@cheribee968]

Yes. Just went downhill from there Very chilling to be out in the middle of nowhere

[@marknewton6984]

Foul play😮

[@barbarachavez64]

Took a week to figure that out, Sad

[@MariahEbrown]

Sounds like they should be questioning the Grandmother who has custody of these children

[@naturistfred]

I'd be shocked if they haven't already. What are they waiting for? It has been 6 days.

[@youdontneed770]

I say the husband is guilty of this

[@JenniferEvans-e5n]

She's been arrested.

[@nicole04050809]

She wasn't going to pick up her kids. Her mother-in-law (the kids paternal grandmother) has custody of her 2 kids. She was on her way to a supervised visit with her kids. She was only allowed to see her kids every Saturday and it was supervised.

[@audreydaleski1067]

His family is messdedup

[@tammycaudle8899]

That’s not anyone business. We all make mistakes. We need to pray that the moms are safe.

[@joansmith6844]

@@audreydaleski1067yes and the mom gets f by the courts looks like ..

[@ghostwalk2446]

​@@joansmith6844Or maybe the courts had good reason for supervised visitation, it's usually the dad

[@naturistfred]

Dad is in rehab and Mom had supervised visits to see her kids. More than like they both had substance abuse issues. None of them seem to be in a good place to raise their own children.

[@jerrycampbell3374]

Not one bit of this story sounds logical, or plausible. All reports and photos are of the two women. show the husbands and anyone else who could be suspect..

[@somejackball]

Theres a gag order. It includes not exposing any potential suspects

[@ReluctantPost]

That's right. Traditional Nancy Grace-style, guilty-until-proven-innocent justice is how it should be done in America. That's what the Founders meant to say. They just got it backwards.

[@mothernature8893]

So nice of those volunteers on horseback to help search. God bless them. Why isn't LE using drones to search these vast areas? Have cadaver dogs been used?

[@naturistfred]

Why is he there and not law enforcement? Are they taking a donut break?

[@tylermallory2504]

very rural, probably low population so they budget for LEO is low meaning not much for resources. they likely don't even have a municipal police force and rely solely on a county sheriff

[@mothernature8893]

@@tylermallory2504 This is true, few resources. I wish more agencies would get involved in the search.

[@mariantreber8055]

Yes! We the public need to make a push for a bigger investigation. They could still be alive, somewhere. Doubtful but possible. FBI...need your help in Oklahoma.

[@natscat4752]

@@naturistfredit’s a lady.

[@kelleywyskiel3478]

Amazing volunteers! On horseback is a fantastic way to search. Thank you!

[@joansmith6844]

Yes 🎉

[@zariballard]

Mother-in-law & ex husband are culprits. Disgusting. I'm sure the car was driven there from another location and abandoned. They better be staking out the ex and in-laws and putting pressure on and pinging phones.

[@sammyday3341]

They’re on the case, ma’am.

[@exeterline1930]

That's a good theory. They could have been ambushed somewhere else and the car could have been driven there and abandoned.

[@tammycaudle8899]

Why do people always have to put peoples business out there. Who cares what kind of visit it was. My goodness I pray these women are found. I like your theory.

[@naturistfred]

​@@tammycaudle8899If people end up missing it is more than likely their business will get out. That is how that usually goes.

[@lisalastnamesmith]

​@@tammycaudle8899 I hope no one goes looking for you if you ever go missing....you can stay gone 🤷‍♀️

[@kimemerson4608]

They where suppose to meet grandma and her boyfriend at the trading post that was the designated place for Veronica to see the kids at the birthday party. Jillian is not a friend's she was court appointed to supervise the visitation.

[@justrobin6459]

GOD Bless the volunteers. I pray that these women are found alive.

[@bbloodyangel1]

This is how the riley strain case got out of control and people have gone with conspiracies' cause of the medias poor reporting. The woman was appointed to supervise, she wasnt just a friend going. Both sides of that family are messy. I feel for the volunteer who was there to supervise, she has nothing to do with this.

[@kimemerson4608]

No. Common sense he fell in the river drunk

[@bbloodyangel1]

@@kimemerson4608 yes but what i said in my comment is that the media reporting turned it into a conspiracy when all he did was fall in.

[@gigglestwo2]

​@@kimemerson4608, not exactly.

[@kimemerson4608]

@@gigglestwo2 yes

[@kimemerson4608]

@@gigglestwo2 followed the whole case. Stumbled out of Luke's Bar headed straight for the river instead of turning left to his room.

[@marialogan8786]

Prayers for these two women 🙏🏼 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@deedeegray7489]

Custody battle ? Well, guess who the main suspects should be ??!!

[@corajones1980]

Dad

[@kay4725]

​@@corajones1980....or in this case- Grandma. Since "Dad" is supposedly in a 6 month rehab at the moment 🙄

[@Augfordpdoggie]

You

[@Augfordpdoggie]

Someone from OF?

[@marknewton6984]

Yeah, guess😅

[@larlar8580]

Leland…get your facts straight, or your audience isn’t going to believe anything you say.

[@joan8178]

Terrible reporting! Wd love to know where the "Texas Kansas border is"!!!!

[@Bethanyview]

This is horrible. Absolutely an ambush. Someone knew her schedule. It was a scheduled visit. Horrible. Now no mother for the kids.

[@GregoryWorth-m6l]

IMO the mother and father six year custody battle makes it pretty clear that someone knew the itinerary of the mother and knew the "best" location to put their plan into action. Unfortunately, the other lady was probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I pray they are both found alive.

[@rebecculousrk]

I'm watching every story, and worrying about what may have happened. I pray for answers soon. Please let the return alive and well to their families.❤ The fact that a "heated custody battle" was mentioned from day one implied that they may have been harmed by someone who would benefit from their absence.

[@marknewton6984]

Wonder who?😮

[@Tylerkerrigan1982]

It’s not gonn take a genius to figure out what happened. It’s either the father of the children or he hired help , doesn’t take detective work to figure it out.

[@ellengundy4714]

But it will take facts to do anything about it…

[@jeromesherard4056]

Agreed! Father and/or his family benefit from this “disappearance”!

[@joycedavison7314]

Heavenly Father, i ask that you bring these two mothers home safe and reveal the truth, i ask this in Jesus Christ name!

[@emilylynneclare]

amennnnnn. 🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you for the comment . 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@missroseiam]

Dearest Heavenly God Father, we pray for the safety and well being of these children and that we may help them to heal❤protect them and the grandmother who reported the abuse to begin with ❤

[@missroseiam]

🌹

[@Quantum_GirlE]

Support? Thought she had to be there cause she needed a DCF approved person.?

[@bernadette573]

Yes, this reporting is ignorant.

[@kevinchambers1101]

The majority of time, it's either the husband or ex-husband that is found when a wife goes missing, especially when there's a custody battle.

[@kten5350]

Do we know if the FBI is involved? Because these women were coming from kansas and just the fact that whatever local police force this took place in is probably not used to dealing with cases like this. They should be getting the FBI involved

[@sammyday3341]

Chill. The OBI is on the case, ma’am.

[@LaughingblueSu]

​@sammyday3341 op is correct. I watch a lot of true crime, the mo is to always bumble along and mishandle evidence before calling fbi. 😂

[@kten5350]

@sammyday3341 chill? It's a pretty fair and logical question. 🤷‍♀️

[@jannapeters8506]

Those who speculate can be really crass.

[@kten5350]

@jannapeters8506 we ALL speculate lol. They bring FBI agents on the show to.... speculate. In situations like this especially since they crossed state lines the FBI should be involved. If they aren't dead then they are being held captive and the FBI has way more resources to help solving cases like these. That's not even a speculation really lol. It's kinda what they do. Speculation would be saying that the ex's family hired someone to take this women out and the lady with her was just in the wrong place. That would be speculation lol

[@marllissimpson716]

Prayers for all 😢

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Imagine how this would affect a child.

[@loloca]

Prayers 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@cantthinkofone6995]

Reminds me of Jared Bridegan and Josh Powell. Nothing gets folks heated like children and finances. So sad for both women and their families. Exceptionally sad for Jillian’s family as she was performing supervising services.

[@kelleywyskiel3478]

Somebody made sure they never actually made it to that meetup point. Did the grandma or the ex call in that she didn’t show up? Were they actually at that gas station waiting? Wouldn’t they have passed her or her car on the road out in nobody drives thru here land?

[@TurkeyCreekGal]

What gas station?

[@joansmith6844]

Excellent points 👍

[@jgjg3848]

Cell phone data may tell us if grandma and her boyfriend were there. Cell phone data will also tell us if there were any attempts to contact the mom to see where she was or if she was coming to see the kids.

[@kelleywyskiel3478]

@@jgjg3848 possibly, there aren’t many towers out there and signals kinda float on and off. It’s like having a scrambler signal that gives out wonky locations even on a gps. I’ve driven thru but live closer to an actual big city.

[@joansmith6844]

@AellaMaud lol 😂 and what in your mind , ? Be the reason on for that ? No longer to see her children whom she’s been fighting for the last 7 years ? For just to be a missing person ?

[@wpeale71341]

Hmmm. We can't confirm this is real but we are going to spread the rumor to generate viewership. Of course if this lady sticks to the facts as she knows them (lack of actual research into the case mainly) she will just be stating her name and no story at this time but 2 women are missing. Read the comment section and you will learn way more than what is told by the reporter.

[@Marleena133]

Shouldn't be too hard for cellphone tracking. The husband found the car

[@sharoncruzen1942]

That part of the state is very rural.

[@jackiedecoma4637]

Praying for that these women are found safe 🙏

[@Devo9094]

Bittersweet… It’s sad to hear foul play may be happening , and beautiful to see complete strangers caring enough to search

[@CannelleInOK]

Did he say Texas/Kansas border? Or did I hear him wrong, even though I rewound it 5 times. I must be missing something. God bless everyone searching for these moms.

[@mjbankhead9063]

You weren’t the only one who heard it

[@blaiseaimee7098]

He also kept saying "rurhwah" or something instead of "rural". Probably should have picked a different profession

[@joansmith6844]

@@blaiseaimee7098lol😂😂

[@dalesmyth7398]

Texas County is what he meant, which is in the Oklahoma panhandle.

[@llong2283162]

He said Kansas Oklahoma border in the county of Texas, if he didn't say that he should have

[@ChannelJtotheD]

🙏 too sad. I’m hoping they are found and are still alive.

[@christinecalifornia8136]

Start checking all the grain silos...have heard stories in past where bodies were found in these silos.

[@angelcole2597]

Please GOD protect the children.... I pray this isn't a life policy advantage and a hands down custody award....

[@atiqrahman7289]

Looks like they have been abducted. Unfortunately very distressing and heart breaking. Hope,wish and pray that these women are alive.

[@sadesade9505]

Much as I would like to hold up hope I fear this is not going to end well, GOD please protect their children😢❤

[@diannaleefolkers-sarber2393]

Why have they not brought out dogs? Have they contacted the ex-husband or his mother. Have you talked to the children? How much did they get from the cell phones, even if the receiption was in and out!

[@loua1519]

Clear to me only 1 family is involved. Hope these women receive justice.

[@missroseiam]

The brother of this sad excuse of a mother needs to spend rest of life in prison ❤

[@Emsie76]

Comment section is more informative than the actual report !

[@OutWestRedDirt]

Parents, grandparents need to grow up. Had with the drama and chaos so many of them cause.

[@deethornburg4014]

Towns 15 miles apart is close in rural America. Now 60 miles apart is for us a bigger deal.

[@jeremyfields9801]

Sounds like to me the car was dumped there also just to let the news anchor know Kansas isn't bordered by Texas just so you know

[@suzanbeverlyhills2310]

Sending prayers

[@mustlovedogs5569]

Perfect area...isolated rural area no cell service no cameras no passing traffic.....for foul play

[@JulieBlair-g6w]

I'm from WV which is rural but I've never seen rural like that! Frightening! 😮

[@TurkeyCreekGal]

Why is it frightening?? I've never been afraid to live here. Most people don't even lock their doors!

[@michellem7300]

Ya , creepy as f too

[@michellem7300]

​@@TurkeyCreekGal😂

[@sammyday3341]

It’s a bit creepy just driving through there. You feel vulnerable.

[@WithLoveAshley]

@@TurkeyCreekGalthis is a terrible place to admit people don’t lock their doors in the area. 😳😱

[@edwardmyers675]

This is why you always carry a gun

[@cathysmith1555]

Prayers 🙏

[@privatecitizen62]

I thought the older went along because she was a CPS worker

[@jamiechrist8394]

Did they check any cameras entering into the town to see if maybe they did enter into town

[@carlclarkarmyret137]

So a piece on Missing Army National Guard soldier, Nicolas Faust missing in Poughkeepsie, NY. It's been 12 days. 😢

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

I drove C2C across USA twenty years ago. There are vast areas of nothing in the middle of nowhere . . . . it's called 'flyover country' for a reason.

[@rakialogan3372]

Please stop the rumors of why the mother get supervised visits.The mother is missing and her point court order supervisor.Only thing important right now is finding these two innocent woman.The gossip rumors please stop.Pray they are found alive and families can get justice for what has happened to these two woman

[@natscat4752]

Finally someone talking sense.

[@JarheadForGod]

They're dead end of story. Find the man involved in the custody dispute and send him to the Soviet Union for interrogation and then they'll find out where the women are at

[@kimberlycox158]

Ex husband probably kidnapped them at gun point then drove the car back to dump it off. Bitter custody battle says it all.

[@sheryldalton8965]

Bitter custody battles often end in foul play.

[@ellengundy4714]

Off the subject for just a moment, there is a 15 year old boy missing for a week now from a Tulsa Walmart…maybe there’s time to help him… Marshall Jackson

[@ellengundy4714]

Found!

[@Diesel3356]

Does anyone believe this is anything other than foul play?

[@4America2024]

Why did that mother need supervised visits? What is the matter in which she was found guilty by a court?

[@Hatbox948]

That's what I'm wondering. Why does grandma have custody of the kids?

[@archangel807]

Wealthy ranch family got rid of mother of kids....need to get to FBI as crosses multiple states lines

[@Modern_Nostalgia]

find out who the common denominator is between both women, and find out who they were both in contact with. there's your likely answer

[@CMB8819]

Maybe I've been watching too much true crime tv but my feeling says to check out the paternal grandmother.

[@KB-mu1fh]

Praying they will be found safe!

[@Marleena133]

Thank you for any updates

[@Emanuel_carey]

Wait… where you are is near where they were supposed to pick up the kids???…… yea… that’s not good

[@nickc8819]

All of this sounds so Oklahoma.

[@borismedved835]

I am for some reason certain that the police have detailed information about every shoe and tire print around that car. If not, they would seem to be incompetent hicks. I have a feeling that the two missing people were not in it when it arrived where it was dumped. Also, I'm afraid that the footprint data is blank because they were wiped out when the guy who drove it there was picked up. Anyway, I believe the police have lots of stuff that it's reasonable for them to keep "secret" until they make some kind of case.

[@missroseiam]

Are the children and grandma safe❓ We need pictures so we can be. On the Lookout❗️

[@missroseiam]

💯♨️💯

[@missroseiam]

🎯

[@speedmom1702]

Here in Greenville SC, two women were shot and killed by the one's ex husband, in the parking lot of his apartment. The one woman went with the mom of the kids to pick them up from him. This and people going missing without a trace is starting to become an epidemic.

[@FlipMacz]

Surprised K9 hasn't been turned loose....

[@whatfreedom7]

They seem to not do that half the time when that’s something they should do right away if someone is missing.

[@michelleschweizer9000]

@@whatfreedom7the small town may not have a K 9 but yes it would help. Thx to the horse lady volunteer.

[@youwish378]

Strange the last few cases I've seen of missing people they don't seem to be using dogs In fact I haven't seen them using dogs in a very very long time if ever There were escaped convicts that were spotted and they still didn't bring dogs in Riley was missing and they didn't bring dogs in Something's weird that they're not using dogs no more

[@mariantreber8055]

They use dogs all the time. See Dave Paulides' CanAm Missing 411. These dogs are very expensive, so only large organizations have them. Big cities, etc.

[@audreydaleski1067]

How did paternal granny get the kids?

[@fredericklegrande4564]

MONEY

[@ogadlogadl490]

I heard the mom’s new boyfriend was sexually abusing the children, so they were taken away and given to the father. That’s the jest of what I’m getting.

[@joansmith6844]

Dumb judge most times they just randomly pick one or the other and judges like to give & take meaning if they take from here they’ll give there .. only 1% of lawyers and judges actually do there job and are not corrupt .. trust me at times judges have a very bad back ground and they still keep there jobs behind that bench Also if there friends more w one attorney or that one attorney donates to them more the case wins to that attorney It’s never about the case no one cares Judges also don’t use the constitution of law they think there god and go by there rules & they make up there owen laws they can make it hard financially to keep appealing , hiring lawyers .. most times a person can’t keep going to court to appeal after appeal to these ignorant judges decision Point is never trust the system They all share the same bottle of wine 🍷 It’s never about the kids they could care less it’s about money 💰 Wish they would look into that judge so we can learn more abut them .. let’s look there back ground , h court history etc as well as the fighting failing attorneys … a women divorces to move on to a safer , happier life the man always wants revenge and most times the revenge parents are there to help $$ .. or there all masons

[@kreationsbykimber]

The kid's father is supposed to be at Salvation Army inpatient rehab center the day he got out of jail.

[@ohsuzanna3223]

She’s most likely the closest relative fit/able to keep the children.

[@alllifematters]

It reminds me of chelsea grimm. Another young woman traveling in her car and she was recommended ny police to go over to the truck stop. Her car was found very similar conditions ... I think police need to monitor truck stops. Did these ladies stop at a truck stop on their trip by any chance?

[@sweetnsoursusan]

The system is garbage. You have to save yourselves and your loved ones. 911 and cops aren't going to save, rescue, find, search.....Civilians, your neighbors, your friends....That's who is out looking for you.

[@Emanuel_carey]

Not shocked

[@jeanniemainzer8551]

It's "Hugoton". Not hard to pronounce.

[@kida12]

Was the car pointed toward Eva, or away?

[@leelaural]

was it an older car or newer?...newer cars have a black box of sorts that might help determine where it had been driven....

[@Bardmusic66]

Some people really can’t say rural…he literally said it’s a rule area.

[@bradrobertson4609]

As much as everyone wants to blame the husband and mother in law and it is quite plausable, lets not forget that Oklahoma is just north of Texas and theres “ new arrivals” all over the area…. Its quite possible it was completely random …

[@janeferguson4455]

I think that the in-law fam of yonger woman got them..too close to that home

[@shondrawhite9317]

I still find the whole pastors wife being with her odd. Did the church try to help mediate?

[@TurkeyCreekGal]

​@@shondrawhite9317 you're obviously not from this area. We just help each other out of the goodness of our hearts! You should try it!

[@TurkeyCreekGal]

​@@shondrawhite9317 you're obviously not from around here, we just do things out of the goodness of our hearts. You should try it!

[@LaughingblueSu]

​@@TurkeyCreekGal I live on the west coast. We look out for each other here too, despite what the news may say.

[@fredericklegrande4564]

She is a court appointed volunteer....newsnation reports are really lame

[@trustenbaker8766]

We all seen enough now. It probably without doubt a family member did it.

[@ewillson4953]

Comment said GRANNY BOY FRIEND. NOT GRADE PA!! SO HE WOULD HAVE FRIENDS UNKNOWEN TO MOST OTHERS...I WOULD BE LOOKING VERY HARD UP HIS ASS FOR ANSWERS

[@exeterline1930]

Did your reporter get out a map and ask that man who saw the car where he saw it?

[@sheryldalton8965]

I live near the church in East Texas where the young father & his new wife were leaving a supervised visit with his daughter & were ambushed on the steps of the church as they were leaving by his ex wife & her father. Her mother & brother were involved too. Thank goodness they were stupid & got caught shortly after. They all went to prison.

[@RocknRolla2023]

Veronica’s baby daddy and his family need to be looked at.

[@cheribee968]

Supervisor for court appointed So sad she didnt even make it there

[@DebraGill]

Always have men with guns escorting you. Times are too dangerous not to anymore.

[@deboraostema6745]

How does one person take down two people at once.?

[@chadfarber6147]

Why haven’t we seen the actual abandoned vehicle so we can see what it looks like inside and outside?Have the feds done ANY scrupulous investigations on the vehicle…analyzing fibers , etc? Are the feds tracking and/or listening in on all the phone calls, texts, etc of the families from both sides that are involved? Could the X supposedly at that rehab facility made ‘arrangements’ prior to the incident or even gotten out without the facility being aware then returned? Could nonleg*ls be involved? Why weren’t tracking dogs brought in to assist immediately especially because this area is actually so close to multiple states? How much trafficking actually has happened in this area? Pig farms in area…some have unscrupulous reputations that precede them…perfect location for ‘disappearing’ of victims.

[@annporter5611]

It's the father of children they were picking up.

[@deborahclayton3101]

I get the feeling “Dateline” will covering this mystery once it’s solved. Sadly, I’m sure it won’t end well.

[@xrpuertorican4472]

Significant other?

[@MaineUSA]

Custody battle? on the way to pick up the child? hmmmmmb?

[@deoneforpeace]

THANK YOUUUU ALL MIRACLE RESCUERS.....TOGETHER IN OUR HEARTSSS AND PRAYERS FOREVER 🙏 💞 💖

[@qweeknee4208]

Probably the ladies were transferred to another car.

[@zachscott4867]

Likely. Second location is a very high percentage you won’t be back, especially women.

[@kenlewis11]

I am from the area. The locations on the maps are inaccurate. The car was found very near Eva. Yarborough school is near that location.

[@jvon3885]

Dang im from this area. I went to school at Yarbrough. But this kind of stuff has a lot of this going on.

[@j.c.4120]

This makes more sense now. An on going custody battle. Sounds like the mother probably wasn’t welcome with the family. And the other woman was court appointed. Look very closely at the family. So sad.