Old School Bodybuilders Got HUGE Because of THIS!

[@PeterKhatcherian]

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[@andrewdoyle3238]

Old school ways of training just makes more sense. Great content Peter

[@Lucid_Anomaly]

Bro needs to start talking about natural body builders and not steroid users No disrespect to the guys who take steroids and still have to train hard to get a body we all want And this channel rocks with some real good info

[@canotajman]

I'm really happy I discovered your channel. I'm following your 5 day mass gain program. First time I'm doing a pure bodybuilding split and I can honestly say I'm very satisfied with the progress. It's actually legit.

[@jonathansmith8006]

Good stuff. My first video was Dorian Yates and I’ve been logbooking from day 1. Logbook exercise, sets, reps, RIR, pump level, soreness the next day while making a spreadsheet of push, pull and leg muscles to figure out my own program style that fit my wants and recovery

[@MennoWielenga]

I trained my legs twice a week for a year. Very slow progression. I train them once a week since 2 months. Fast progression. My legs are sore for at least 4 days. I train all other muscles twice a week.

[@BigMac5]

The guys with the best physiques are the ones with the best genetics.

[@gummyerin]

And the peds 💉💊

[@AncientEL07]

Can you do a supplement video that you would recommend followed by fun facts by old school body builders such as your favorites and the likes ec?

[@lawdog369]

I finally got good gains after following the 4 day upper lower split from Boring But Big. It was a good template to use but I instinctively came up with your Torso and Limbs split for my goals which you advocate. 3 days full body never really worked for me and was systemically draining. I will buy your 5 day mass program because I like that you have options for 4 and 3 days when you don't have time so you can keep making progress. I like simplicity and so many influencers just confuse me with what to do. Thanks for your content.

[@TheDIYNut]

I am running boring but big right now hoping to see some good results. 5x10 of deadlift and squat after working sets is killing me though. I was not prepared for that

[@agrlklarkemirenpanda660]

@@TheDIYNut You can do different exercises for accessory work. Like leg press, lunges, RDLs etc.

[@darrylstubblefield]

@@TheDIYNut5x10?

[@TheDIYNut]

@@darrylstubblefield boring but big has you do 2 warm up sets leading into a single working set and then you back off and complete 5 sets of 10 reps with light weight.

[@darrylstubblefield]

@@TheDIYNut Ngl that sounds like a ridiculous amount of volume

[@brianbachmeier34]

We're all gonna make it brahs 💪

[@ryanhillerson2002]

Logical and sensible, solid analysis. I'm on the way to putting on 10lbs of muscle in 2024 using your five-day program while remaining reasonably lean; simple and it works- thanks for putting it together.

[@firefoxcobra1234]

Loving all the ironmaster equipment in this video!

[@davidbanner2826]

I did his training program …he’s an AMAZING coach and helped me tremendously my gains are unbelievable and been accused of using roids …lol …it’s really his program , diet and consistency…it works for me

[@thunderkat5282]

Yep! And I’ve figured out something. I want to start a channel and sell pdf’s etc. also

[@johnscott3893]

My perspective: basic movements cover more than one bodypart but stimulate one target bp in particular, e.g. bench press primarily for chest but stimulates triceps/delts to lesser degree, pull ups lats and biceps/rear delts to lesser degree which means overlap. Secondly: injury management/ the older trainer. My lower back work needs to be planned out over week and going back to basic movements, barbell rows used on upper back day but also work in isolation with hypers/torso exts and nordic hip hinges on erector and leg days respectively. Similarly, forearms trained separately to biceps means can use hammers/zottman curls as additional stimulus forearm day. One then doesn't really end up training a muscle once per week but rather hitting directly then stimulating with less direct, but no less intense, work on other days.

[@meghrajdadapatil9148]

Peter is getting bigger day by day

[@punxsutawneyphil3944]

By taking higher doses day by day. 💪

[@devinduffell8672]

I have watched hundreds of your videos, and they’re all great. But this one… this one hits home and just makes sense! I have a hard time judging how much I need to do and figuring out my recovery, but you just lay things out so simple. Starting your new program this Monday as I am recovering from bicep tendinitis. Well said, thank you for these videos, you have the best of anyone I’ve ever listened to. 🫡

[@agrlklarkemirenpanda660]

Bro splits definitely works if you`re not doing excessive volume, training hard, focusing on progressive overload. If you can get stronger over time, your split doesn`t matter.

[@billagap3213]

@@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 exactly. Bro split with a key few exercises works wonders 💪🏽

[@bmwm3man]

Bro splits work if you're doing excessive volume and can recover from it. When I was in my 20s I did 20 sets for chest in one session and the biggest my chest ever was had less to do with the volume I did and more to do with the exercise selection. I followed similar volume recomendations for other body parts like legs and back etc. and it worked back then. Now I'm in my 30s and I can't do that same volume in a session. I am burnt after 8 sets for any body part upper body related. So I do push pull instead and gains have been the same as in my 20s, and recovery has been the same as when I was in my 20s as well. So I'm guessing it's all relative. Q

[@beburs]

Based and old school pilled as always

[@buddytrent1351]

Thanks, Pete. Great, as always.

[@dennisreilly471]

Equipment question:what brand are your adjustable dumbbells?P.S.Love your coaching!

[@paulcervantes9502]

Yeah I got introduced to training unfortunately with all the weird cable variations you see online years ago working out 5-6 days a week split.. I’ve learned 3 days a week full body barbells are gold for me

[@umarlatif4251]

Peter's straight forward truth " HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD " These science geeks won't be able to digest 😂

[@vonclarktheshark2279]

Do you recommend a different approach to volume or programming generally during a cutting phase? Since progression will slow or even some strength loss is likely during a cut, would you recommend sticking to the same program but focusing on maintaining your strength and rep numbers during workouts instead of adding weight or reps every session?

[@kevinbensel8954]

Love the content! Thx, keep it up!

[@Rakyr]

There is lots of emphasis on stretch based training, do you think that a dumbbell press with more more stretch but slightly less weight will trump a dumbbell press with less rom but maybe a bit more weight?

[@sales_coach_ai]

Yes

[@FitDadMD]

@@sales_coach_aiI also recommended prioritizing max stretch. If you skip that deep stretch position you are probably loosing out on a lot of gains.

[@BrianCrapJohnson]

High Pitch Voice Peter is highly underrated

[@beburs]

Yep 😂

[@billagap3213]

There is nothing better than trial and error. Bro split definitely works if you put in the work. Other splits also work. See what works for you, and how you can fit the gym into the rest of your life.

[@LeoBshaw]

Facts 💪🏼

[@zka77]

I do full body 3x per week, 4 sets per exercise with 10-12 reps. Funny how this video speaks mostly about this.

[@ClassicPhysique27]

I do full body 3x too but 2 sets for heavier movements and 4 sets for smaller muscles

[@DonHoinbaras]

How many exercises per workout?

[@jakebritton9709]

I'm a fan of 5x5 full body. There good if youre even getting started again especially after an injury or break.

[@georgemuhoro]

8:03 - 8:15 Perfection

[@meghrajdadapatil9148]

Bro just love old school bodybulding

[@Grimmjow19872]

Because it works.

[@omp365]

Aaaaand bro jacked

[@avb2522]

simple and easily progressive be it beginner or advanced.

[@bmwm3man]

​@@omp365but if he's putting in work, on gear and eating he should be jacked.

[@noraxab5933]

Thank you

[@patricksalazar687]

But how do we deal with the "CNS" fatigue. That pushing it hard and then adding an extra session per week to each muscle group brings. Cuz that's true I notice a week in between leaves you one step forward two steps back situation.

[@andrewsherman2398]

Problem unless you're training legs arms are required so if you're training your back or shoulders you are working your biceps and if you're training your chest or front delta you are working your triceps so any fatigue from that work would affect arm specific training sessions

[@prdmakovy]

you are the only fitness channel that needs to be on youtube. most of the others are just overcomplicating shit

[@Jafmanz]

Utterly horse

[@hotrodfeguy]

At my age 50 2x a week is about spot on. Otherwise I get into fatigue and growth levels off. Totally spot on about listening to your body. When you feel like your body wants something random give it a random day.

[@David_10157]

Yep .As a 43 year old man, I agree. It took me a while to figure out less is more.

[@brianmccarthy1322]

At 68 I train Push/Pull. 4 times per week in the winter and 3 times per week in the summer. Yep, sounds weird. Also 3 sets heavy for 3-6 reps followed by 3 sets at 10-14 reps.

[@christopherwhitley9923]

man for a while i was like fuck, cuz i thought you were going to tell us to count sets or something hahaha. Thank god i already do this naturally. I just hit my muscles till they fail and get back in the gym ASAP so i can train them again. Only rarely do i come in and cant do my normal session or get better.

[@johnlammergeier2890]

I train once per week, works great.

[@theevolutionofthebear3093]

At 52 I do a full body two to three times a week. 12 exercises one set to almost failure, less is more for me right now. However, Ive done 3 day splits that work just as good where everything gets trained once a week. Dorian Yates trained everything once a week. It all depends on your body and recovery. I don't worry about weekly set quotas, I just train hard and forget about it until the next session, some people are too obsessed with "optimal".

[@robert50173]

I do about the same at 63. I do 'pretty dam reasonable' which is optimal for most.

[@S.O.A_Zero]

2:30 All these things are true, but you're looking at a 3D figure with 2D eyes. Modern school training is all about mastering the technique of the exercises. And those who train with 15 sets per session didn't just hop on that number of sets, they worked their way through it. The people who do excessive amount of sets usually go down in weight as they get more fatigued. And they also mastered the technique to a point where it's impossible for it to become sloppy Look at Eric Janicki chest workout, he does an insane amount of volume and yet his technique doesn't break at all, not even a little cheat.

[@HaharuRecords]

Just like when you see too much on the menue, you don't know what to choose. Unless you try each and every dish or lisen from soemone who genuinely tried it.

[@jprp999]

So is he saying we should be on 12 grams per week or 15?

[@g.b.1224]

When i hear according to science or this study stuff, i click out.

[@GarageDwellerPat]

There's nothing wrong with training every muscle once per week as long as the intensity is high and there is progressive overload. A lot of old schoolers did it. Frank Zane's split was 3 on 2 off. It's a fact that you will not lose strength or muscle for AT LEAST two weeks.

[@Archangel55]

I believe was 3 on 1 off

[@GarageDwellerPat]

@@Archangel55 I saw an interview where he said 3 on 1 off caused him too much fatigue, so he went to 3/2 and felt much better.

[@thunderkat5282]

It’s more complex than that. Can’t just HIT. Nothing wrong with periodic intensity, but…. You better be doing other things as well. And no, this won’t inhibit recovery

[@dennisrobbins458]

Old school works best, and lasts longer

[@alexfox5834]

What training split trains a muscle group twice per week that isn’t push pull legs I want to train max 5 times a week

[@asafmedrano9124]

Pov Frank Castle (the punisher) kidnapped to teach You how to train

[@Maximum_Natural_Muscle]

There are no templates that work for all. if you need to grow as much as possible you have to experiment with your own body and find what works. every one is completelly different. in my case no matter the intensity or the volume....if i train my muscle groups sooner than the 6th day...I don t grow. my best gains happened by 1 set to muscular failure per excersise (3 excersisesfor big groups/2 for small ones) with frequency once every 9th day. when i was experimenting with high frequency i was becoming smaller and weaker every time(no matter the volume). either i want it or not....I belong in the Mike Metzer philoshophy because thats what works for me.Actually Its the only kind of training that it works for me. btw I am all time natty.so i m speaking about natty training.

[@Rohadjakmeg1]

BUT akkktually you are telling the same good advice as science based channels do. Twice a week better than one. Noone says that volume equating in such extreme cases makes sense. It is about like 6 sets a week done in one or 2-3 days, and they came to the same conclusion as you. I really like that you push the consistency part of it since no "optimal" workout plan will make wonders if abandoned.

[@hamudi4841]

As a "science-based" lifter, I fully agree with this video. But what you maybe don't seem to get, is that any "science-based" authority recommends training every muscle group AT LEAST twice a week. So you are critiquing an argument that wasn't even made, at least not by "science-based" authorities. Still great video and I agree with the arguments.

[@PeterKhatcherian]

I’m actually not arguing against science based authorities. I’m calling out the arguments that science based lifters use as reasoning behind there “science based training” which in many cases is nothing more than overcomplicating something very simple 💪🏻

[@sengunvolkan]

im really confused. high volume guys like arnold or high intensity guyd like dorian. both have insane bodies. if only one method worked only certain guys would have the dream body. both on gear so only difference is work method

[@FitDadMD]

Steroids will help people grow even doing suboptimal training, especially paired with superior muscle genetics, but likely the difference is that each person responds to different stimuli differently. The important take away, is a variety of approaches work, so find what works best for you. If you can’t recover in time for the next work out, you need less frequency and maybe more intensity for more stimulus.

[@RWest10750]

Does this advice apply to natty's and people over 40 as well? It's hard to know how to apply training advice when so much is based on successes of those on gear

[@luxuryholmes1661]

Bars

[@jeelani5530]

❤for🇮🇳 the pro😊💪

[@Insaniya.humanity]

New school builders (hadi , Derek, Samson etc aren’t small neither)

[@KingAdjust]

Full body 3 times a week is best, 2 times a week is maybe better but only if there's not many exercises per session

[@Bob-ke1kz]

BS

[@KingAdjust]

@@Bob-ke1kz you're replying to all my comments again, saying BS with no explanation means nothing buddy

[@KingAdjust]

@@Bob-ke1kz you're replying to me almost every time I'm here, saying BS doesn't mean anything if there's no explanation clown

[@KingAdjust]

@@Bob-ke1kz thanks for the mind blowing explanation on how I'm wrong, everytime you reply you look more, and more idiotic 🙄

[@KingAdjust]

​@@Bob-ke1kzthanks for the mind blowing explanation on how I'm wrong, everytime you reply you look more, and more idiotic 🙄

[@sethkang4410]

junk volume is crazy

[@thewintersoldier383]

I’ve seen so many “science based” work outs lately. Makes me laugh after watching pumping iron from the 70s

[@shadowlaw809]

You have developed an amazing physique

[@Hakan-jt4wb]

Is this advice tailored to naturals or steroid users. You ask why steroid users would bother training hard, many times per week. The answer is because steroids allow you to recover twice as fast after training than naturals.

[@Jari1973]

👍

[@GuswanRusman]

Are you lifetime natural pete,,,? We need to know that

[@gutierrezgainz]

8:06 the concept of hitting the muscle hard enough to grow, and then training said muscle the moment it is recovered is a more scientific process in terms of theory than conducting an experiment with 15 random lifters with a boatload of unmanaged variables.

[@CANCERPLAYZZZ]

Bro are you natural? just be honest...

[@panagenesis2695]

Nucleus Overload = 3-5 sets × 20-25 reps, 3 times/week in a full body workout. Needless to say, you drop the weight to 40-60% 1RM. Also, after 4-6 weeks, take 1-2 weeks off to reset mTOR.

[@Jafmanz]

Whos going to squat 405 for 5x5 3x a week anyway????? Maybe someone really strong foing it on a cut......

[@KingAdjust]

If someone isn't on steroids and is doing 12 sets a session for a single muscle group they're not training hard at all lol

[@89Dustdevil]

Thanks, kid. I'll tell 99% of all successful bodybuilders that you said so. They'll be thrilled that they can stop

[@KingAdjust]

@@89Dustdevil I was referring to natural lifters bro

[@horvathlg]

@@89Dustdevil They are on steroid. That's the guys point.

[@krystofodehnal9448]

@@horvathlg Stick to your Mike Mentzer routine and leave real training for bodybuilders, tiny.

[@89Dustdevil]

@@KingAdjustyou didn’t say that in the original post, brah

[@michaelz8620]

Mike Mentzer achieved great results by doing completely the opposite

[@robbo8074]

Mike trained everything twice a week

[@convid1941]

Muscle mass (hypertrophy) and strength should never be used in the same sentence.... not for natty's anyway. 2 completely different styles of training that produce different results....I see guys in the gym who have been lifting for years and can lift waaaay more than I can but they don't even look like they lift....Very strong with little muscle to show for it. I'm the complete opposite....I look strong but I'm not but at least I look like I lift which is all I'm worried about...ie: Looking muscular.

[@junkyard-p1s]

Thats exactly what I want to train for. Im satisfied with the amount if strength I have at age 69. But I want to learn more about just training for hyperthropy.

[@convid1941]

@@junkyard-p1s Try this technique on machines/cables only (not compounds). Can be used with dumbells on exercises like lateral raises. Take your 20 rep max and do 50 reps with it. Here's how; so you hit your 20 rep max then stop, count to 5 or 10 and go again, repeat until you get to 50. Only 1 set is required of an exercise with this technique as your muscle will be toast. Increase the weight incrementally overtime when you feel you can do more. Another technique (again not compound lifts) I use is take a weight you can do 10-15 reps with (first set), do 3 sets to failure with only 30 seconds rest in between, after the 3rd set immediately do a dropset to failure and then pump out a few more reps using rest/pause technique. When you can do more than 15 reps first set, add weight next session. I've gotten pretty muscular training like this the past 2-3 years....Diet is key to showing off what you've built...

[@EsotericResearcher666]

Old school BB’s got huge because they blasted test sus with dbol endlessly lol

[@williamnewsome5169]

Never heard anyone advocate doing all the science based sets (10 - 20 per Peter) in one session in making his argument. I think Peter has misconstrued what they are saying. The vast majority know that the 10 - 20 sets per muscle group is generally spread over a week. Even reviewing Steve Reeves' training routines yield this pattern, and he was about as old school as they come, having trained in the 1950s and 60s.

[@papaspaulding]

It all works so long as you programme it well. I can hit a muscle once only every ten days and get great results in both size and strength or I can hit that same muscle once every 48 hours and get great results. All depends on the programming, even if the volume isn't the same over an average month. EDIT: incidentally your example of 6 working sets per muscle group with 3 days rest is exactly how I train presently. I dont follow the weekly volume model either. I go by days between each muscle group and adequate volume per session only

[@timbaws1346]

Didnt watch, but roids

[@mojojojo3141]

Peter Khatcherian how many times will you make the same video mate? FUNDAMENTALS BAREBONES BASIC LIFTS COMPOUNDS FOUNDATION

[@PeterKhatcherian]

@@mojojojo3141 one for every nonsense video that’s posted regarding training advice.

[@KingAdjust]

@@mojojojo3141 basic compound lifts is what builds most of the physique "mate"

[@nathangallegos2087]

Till you start to use it brother. I highly recommend to get his 5 day Mass program.

[@jeremiahleasure4301]

They brainwash us by repeating lies. We counter this by repeating the truth.❤

[@sams4948]

i do appreciate it Peter. This emphasizes KISS principle.

[@kevinmcconnon9425]

I use to follow this guy. At first he was the only guy I watched, but now I think he got lost in his ways.

[@KingAdjust]

@@kevinmcconnon9425 Lost in his ways how? If you're not following him anymore, why come to this video, then comment about this? Strange

[@kevinmcconnon9425]

@@KingAdjust hmm did I not just say I use to watch this guy? Maybe I came back and was checking out one of his videos. I know really bizarre let me tell ya.

[@flymofoisthebest3885]

Upper/lower 6 days a week has been crazy gainz for me and my training partner coupled with 1k extra calories per day

[@-nath-7837]

Feet veterinarian back with yet another video repeat

[@KeithSnyder-qc7in]

They gat huge due to juice plain and simple. No juice, no huge gains end of story.

[@jd0879]

Haven’t I seen this video, 15 times already. Bro make other content

[@PeterKhatcherian]

First time I’ve covered why I don’t agree with the weekly sets model 💪🏻

[@horvathlg]

It's confusing because he gives the same clickbaity title to every video...

[@skullforex9013]

Yes but have you seen all 15 in 1 session...? 😅

[@jd0879]

@@horvathlg i know it’s getting annoying. I’m not going to watch anymore if he doesn’t starting getting more specific with his titles

[@robmarsh918]

And THIS is why making genuine content with useful information about fitness doesn’t get as much attention. Yes, the information is going to overlap. You know of why? Because it’s the basics, and the basics are inherently boring. Everyone clicks on these fitness videos expecting some new revolutionary insight. They all want a shiny new thing. Well, guess what? All the simple concepts - Progressive overload, fatigue management, compound movements, etc - is all that matters, especially for a majority of people consuming this content who are probably barely novice. It’s repetitive. It’s boring. It’s simple. AND IT WORKS. If you are bored with this information, and you are jacked, at a decent body fat percentage, and strong, then congrats. You’ve reached a point where you need a more customized approach. So get a coach.

[@AjaychinuShah]

So you think the Old School Science is superior to our Science. Nope, totally different...

[@ClassicPhysique27]

Yup

[@wotdefookbruv]

​Go shit in the streets @@ClassicPhysique27

[@analogcrunch4716]

Yeah science has no place in bodybyilding

[@AjaychinuShah]

@@analogcrunch4716 WE HAVE FUCKING FIGHTER JETS 1,000,000 times there's in WW II and this is all respect we get at North.

[@Kim-z5m]

Listen to him and look like him. Not much there to listen to or look at. Eons away from a video