Old School British Urban Assault Tactics

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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:14 - Characteristics of Urban Combat
3:37 - Infantry Section (Squad)
4:51 - Section Task Organization
5:21 - Section Clearing Drill
7:41 - Platoon Clearing Drill
8:45 - Company Street Fight
9:55 - Special Equipment
Main Source:
Infantry Training - Volume IV - Tactics - The Infantry Platoon in Battle www.battleorder.org/post/uk-6...
Sources in Notes:
1. smallwarsjournal.com/document...
2. Lyle, SD (2021) "Urban Phalanx Concepts for Achieving Small Unit Dominance in Future Urban Combat"

[@BattleOrder]

When I say "should" it is from the perspective of the doctrine in 1960 and not a value judgement on whether these methods are the best given modern developments in house clearing tactics. Here's the link to the manual I got off ebay: www.battleorder.org/post/uk-60-infpam Also, most of the b-roll is from the Army film "Fighting in Villages" from 1979: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHW2mptuqteima8 Another relevent film is "House to House Fighting" from 1943. Doctrine in 1943 was virtually the same as in 1960: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3eVhYOIZ7lpeaM

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

I hope that you upload more old school infantry manuals, even if they're not a perfect scan I'd still love to read them anyway.

[@rossg4788]

Also used rifle grenades fired from the SLR. M72A2 LAWs were shown in the video, but not discussed. The streets would have vehicles and car bombs and molotov cocktails were used. The British Army used the Brick concept in Northern Ireland

[@hoilst265]

FISH and CHIPS.

[@alandesouzacruz5124]

Make a vídeo about french foreign legion 13th Demi-brigade

[@shidbot123]

Can you make a video on the weapons of South African troops?

[@TheArklyte]

The fact that 60 years ago isn't 1940's anymore hurts me on spiritual level 😅

[@Vinny6962]

It messes with my brain unit

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

It makes us feel old when we realise that people who were in their late 30s during the early 1980s are now in their early 80s, and that the older millenials are now middle aged parents, who will be telling their kids stories about playing the Halo trilogy instead of stories of watching the original Star Wars in cinemas.

[@Screwball70]

I feel yo bruv, when I was in ,60 years ago would have been the 30s and I'm getting old DISGRACEFULLY lol.

[@hypergolic8468]

It's worse than that. It's when you're on a corporate away day, at a military museum and before you and the world is the super sneaky equipment that you were NEVER EVER to talk about. Worse still the whole of the accounts / billing department now have a better understanding of how it worked than you did when you signed for it. Still there's the bit of the tour where they show you something powered up, you jump over the barrier and run the test programme 😂😂

[@TheArklyte]

@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 "older millenials" are already becoming granparents. Did for some time. Millenilals are 1981-2000 ie Millenium. We make up majority of tax payers, parents, war veterans and depressed losers around the world;) Oldest millenials are 43 now. P.S.: Gen Z are 2001-2020 Gen X are 1961-1980 Baby Boomers are 1941-1960 And GG were 1921-1940. This is why I don't get all the hate towards 3 year olds that make up Gen A...

[@buckplug2423]

I really like these old MOUT tactics. They're obviously a lot less complicated and sophisticated than modern ones, with many fewer battle drills and SOPs and such, but you can still see the enormous effort, planning and wisdom put into them.

[@wcm8909]

Agreed, I’ve heard people make the argument that infantry in the 2000’s and 2010’s got too focused on room clearing like a swat team rather than actually conventional urban fighting where you toss in a grenade and spray the room

[@kekistanimememan170]

@@wcm8909 proabaly due to a focus on COIN.

[@gr6373]

​@@wcm8909It largely devolves into that in chaos anyway

[@Seth9809]

@wcm8909 SWAT flashes the room and spraying without going in will miss people

[@k.r.baylor8825]

@@wcm8909 As one of the comments wrote below, civilian casualty risks, rapid grenade depletion, and risk of friendly fire caused these older tactics to be rethought. SWAT-like tactics were adopted, since local police faced the same kinds of risks (with the exception of grenade depletion, I would think). But I agree--MOUT rapidly devolves into chaos, without very strict command/control, which doesn't happen in most urban battles.

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

Arrr yes the L1A1,the perfect urban warfare rifle, it’s length really helps you dominate a room.

[@Ocker3]

One reason that the Australian ADF troops like the AusStyre, you can swap out the barrels.

[@Hebdomad7]

It's longer so you can bayonet your enemy first...

[@jaroslavpalecek4513]

... when it function.

[@danmorgan3685]

All the 7.62 NATO battle rifles were a terrible idea.

[@fartsfartington9019]

Crazy what the Provos could do with the Armalite and ammonium nitrate.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Great video mate! Fun fact myself (and a mate) actually paid for that Fighting in Villages footage to be digitised at the IWM.

[@RMMilitaryHistory]

It was me I was that mate ❤

[@willsta21]

Would you like a cookie?

[@clicheusername4416]

Glad you did it’s fascinating

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@willsta21 always

[@epluribusunum5318]

I've read tens of dozens of books, watched hundreds of hours of documentaries and footage, all of it on Urban combat. And not a single instance has appeared of anyone saying anything positive about it. I legit had bad dreams after reading about Sarajevo and the battles fought there. There is nothing comforting or positive about being in a city, fighting door to door. In order to survive people took sledge hammers to walls and basements, planned out meticulous rotating routes of travel, all in a desperate bid to counteract the dangers of simply moving about in the city. Urban combat is hellish. And its both fascinates and horrifies me. Because people asked for the books I read on Sarajevo. The Siege of Sarajevo: One Family’s Story of Separation, Struggle, and Strength. Fry the Brain, the art of Urban warfare. (This is not a history book, but a primer on Urban Warfare and the art of sniping) My War Gone By, I Miss It So The Quick and the Dead: Under Siege

[@Yandarval]

Its about as safe as the first months of the First World War. The walking into Machine Gun fire kind of safe. Urban combat soaks up troops like a sponge with little to show for it. It is also S-L-O-W as anything you can imagine. If the defenders have any sort of prep time. Its even slower and uses up manpower even more. As you have watched so much. Calculate how many troops it takes to clear a building. Then multiply that for both sides of a standard street in your locale. Then add 50% more in men and time for the real fear factor of the real thing. Whoever wins the town/city battle. The infrastructure is trashed. Many thousands of civvies have become your responsibility. There will still be booby traps all over the place. As well as enemy troops that have gone native to hide.

[@liamlalonde3347]

Book list?

[@Has-fw5pl]

I would also like to know what you read that gave you bad dreams

[@robclaridge6236]

Would love to read some books you could recommend.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@Yandarval How does it take a long time?

[@Yandarval]

I remember doing FIBUA (Fighting in Built Up Areas) in the late 80s. I became stuck twice crawling through the sewer's. Sewers look nice and large until you have to do it in full fighting order. Several buckled mess tins and some bruised kidneys got me unstuck. Getting repeatedly booted in the back hard enough to buckle my gear to unstick me, was not fun.

[@SonofAlbion]

OBUA: operations in built up areas FISH: fighting in someone’s house FISK: fighting in someone’s kitchen Standard Copehill Down banter 😂

[@reubendorman]

The 1945 version is hilarious as it says urban warfare isn't much different from regular combat. Apart from a few small factors. Then it procude to give you 30 odd 2 page "differences"

[@BattleOrder]

In 1943 there was a whole manual dedicated to just fighting in built up areas, which was combined with the 1960 version of the infantry platoon manual as just a 7-page section

[@markgarrett3647]

Reminds of something I read during the Vietnam conflict where the elite southern Vietnamese ARVN rangers had to clear an affluent urban area in Saigon of Vietcong fighters and had to skillfully use sledgehammers and helicopter dropped smoke grenades.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

Fun Fact: Many of the Marine officers during the Tet Offensive watched the British "House to House Fighting" video as part of the MOUT training early in their career.

[@markgarrett3647]

@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 Yes going urban was one of the costliest errors that the NVA and Vietcong ever made in that conflict.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@markgarrett3647 I wonder if any veterans of Stalingrad acted as MOUT advisers to the Vietnamese Communists?

[@markgarrett3647]

@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 There probably are but the Soviets weren't so generous at the type of training they're willing to give their Vietnamese Allies because for example they only gave them the most basic knowledge of armour like how to drive it and not much else about tactics.

[@Ocker3]

​@@markgarrett3647 I have never heard about that, were they just untrained in Urban combat?

[@SimonLandmine]

Ah, the classic FISH & CHIPS manual (Fighting In Someone's House & Causing Havoc In Public Spaces) - though I'm not sure when those nicknames came into play, to be honest!

[@germanofficer980]

Although this is somewhat similar, I still crave a Parachute Regiment video. Attempt 3 of asking Battle Order to do an evolution of the organization of the British paratrooper squad, since its formation in the 1940s, to the 1960s, to the Falklands War in 1982, and the current Parachute Regiment. Also, nice background music, it's Falaise Road from COD 3.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

I read a bit about the Falklands War so I can share I know about the Parachute Regiment of that era, from what I've read about 2 Para they had two interesting characteristics to their organisation, one of them being a C comapny, a 50 man patrol company (which patrolled as independent fireteams) who provided reconnaissance before an attack, observation posts in the defence, and set up ambushes to cover the movement of their battalion (and was used as a rifle platoon towards the end of Goose Green to partially replace A company). And each rifle platoon's section had two 4 man fireteams instead of the usual asymmetric rifle and gun groups of the day, it was similar to the current British fireteams (which have an integrated section commander leading the section and one of the two teams, unlike the US which had a squad leader independent of the two teams) but with a different armament, 3 soldiers had a FAL, and the gunner had a FN MAG, if memory serves some of the riflemen had a grenade launcher, the platoons also had a small weapon's squad which included a 2 inch mortar and could possibly be equipped with other weapons such as an extra medium MG and grenade launcher.

[@peteroneill5426]

Can't talk about the Paras without mentioning what they did in Derry.

[@buckplug2423]

@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 I believe the Paras employed 1 MAG and 1 L4 as squad automatics in the Falklands

[@germanofficer980]

@buckplug2423 I believe I saw that somewhere too, just don't know where. they had an L4A1 and an L7 GPMG with the L4A1 attached to the rifle group iirc

[@Seth9809]

I have no idea about layout of mi hip helicopter infantry platoon despite looking

[@simonsignolet5632]

A nostalgic trip down Memory Lane (thankfully no longer covered by enfilade fire! 😉). Your videos are truly excellent and the armed forces would do well to use your skills for training soldiers. I was a Para in the 1980s/90s. As standard, we used to carry full size sledgehammers and (equally long) bolt cutters as part of our platoon "house breaking kit". Blokes were having to put the sledgehammers in their weapon sleeves with their rifle for the jump, then just slot the sledgehammer/cutters behind the side pouch of the bergen for the (often long) TAB to objective. From memory, every (?) man carried a toggle rope, and some carried the suspension line (from the jump) in its stead. Wire cutters and gloves were issued to sections, usually 2 to a section. Grapples were a nightmare to pack for a jump, they could do absurd damage to yourself or your kit... Typically issued to the lightest guy in the section or the best climber. You always wore a helmet when throwing that thing into an upstairs window and be ready to leg it out of the way if it missed or bounced back... Once up, the first man would stamp the spikes of the hook into the window sill to secure it. One exercise, we jumped at the east end of Salisbury Plain and tactically marched across it to the west of it, clearing positions enroute. With my mate, Darren, despite having fully laden bergens we had the joy of carrying a two storey wooden ladder for ALL of that distance! In the early 1990s, we had purpose made assault ladders which came in something like 4 or 5 foot sections. Good kit. The "lookout" at 5:05 is a new term for me. We called him the "link man". He was the link between the section (clearing group) and gun (cover fire group). It was also down to him to resup the Gun link (belted ammo) that was carried by the rest of the section, if the gun had to remain in position for longer than anticipated.

[@TheHaighus]

Link man sounds like a more intuitive name than lookout for the role, can see why it got changed.

[@qboxer]

Link man in the Canadian Army as well.

[@theobvious1958]

what's some cool acronyms/abbreviations relating to urban warfare??, I saw some cool acronyms in some old Manuel from the 80s, POBE/POBEX: point of building entrance, point of building exit, POPE/POPEX: point of perimeter entrance/exit. TOW: top of wall, etc

[@More-than-ladyboys]

Training in the Ruhleben FIBUA village in West Berlin was far more exciting than standard exercises in forests. Such a buzz! Even with blanks.

[@shaunmclorie5929]

Great video, a lot of this is still being taught in the 21st century, tactics that were developed from Northern Ireland mostly

[@dernwine]

Fighting in Built up Areas, also known as FIBUA, also known as Fish and Chips. Fighting in Someones House and Causing Havok in Peoples Streets. Interesting how some things have changed, while others really haven't. Wouldbe intresting to talk to a Veteran and see to what degree the seeming lack of flexibility was doctrinal, and to what degree it is down to just being a pamphlet, rather than the lived experience of troops.

[@jameslynch7826]

As a tank crewman we all carried the smg.A simple weapon ideal for tank crews but if you were ever in situation where you needed it then you were already screwed. Luckily we had the option of the co ax and or cmdrs gpmg should you have to dismount from a damaged tank. We usually padlocked them away in a tool bin. But they are compact when folded up and we rarely even thought about having to actually use it in anger. Why bother when you have a FO 120mm gun and two gpmgs.

[@paganphil100]

@jameslynch7826: Tank drivers were usually issued with pistols as there isn't much room (even for SMGs) in the driver's compartment.

[@andyt3304]

@@paganphil100 Strange that. I served 23 years in the RTR and never saw a Dvr issued with a Pistol

[@aa-ron6718]

The chicken wire is super smart, ngl grenades totally slipped my mind.

[@akriegguardsman]

They could just attack hooks on the grenades like the soviets did in response to germans using nets

[@jgw9990]

​@akriegguardsman only if you know its coming. That's a learned adaptation that comes from a longer conflict. Also, the hook doesn't totally defeat the defence - as it sticks to the mesh on the window - without the mesh the grenade would go into the room and perhaps do more damage.

[@vasilzahariev5741]

That guy with the Sterling SMG in the thumbnail looks so much like Captain Price from CoD2

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

British soldiers with thick moustaches look like Captain Price (as well as the real world John McAleese) the same way how African American marines/soldiers with patrol caps remind us of Sgt Johnson (and his Alien's inspiration Apone, played by real Marine Al Matthews). I think that every military has a common "look" amongst their personnel.

[@archiegeorge3969]

Did infantry keep any reserve or arms room of sterlings? I bet they would have quickly been scrounged from support troops in a real urban assault.

[@TopHatHat]

Generally a lot of veterans say no, they were mostly issued to those who were thought didn't need a full power rifle. However, as soon as the troubles in Northern Ireland started up, a lot of officers and quite a few soldiers privately bought pistols (Automatics or revolvers) and holsters. Needless to say I think that shows the concern about only being issued with an SLR amongst the troops. Apparently it was quite a sight to see "Modern" soldiers wearing big revolvers in holsters, and then quite a few got caught out by new legislation when coming back to the mainland!

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

I’m guessing section leaders quickly commandeered Sterlings from drivers and Gustav gunners in quick order.

[@danielcurtis1434]

@@TopHatHat what kind of legislation did they face versus north Ireland? American here but I do know Ireland UK is more permissive than mainland UK such as self defense is a reason to own a gun, plus handguns are legal. I’ve read contradictory things on wether centerfire semi automatic rifles can be owned? However I thought back then handguns weren’t a big deal in the UK? I just want to know what happened to the men?

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@danielcurtis1434 The irony of Northern Ireland having the looser gun laws despite it's recent history of rampant terrorism (and the rest of the country having the stricter laws despite never having a serious "gun problem") never ceases to amaze me. You'd think that The Troubles would've been used as a pretext for a complete gun ban by the nanny state politicians, but life is stranger than fiction I guess.

[@TopHatHat]

@@danielcurtis1434 The anecdote comes from the autobiography of Sir Richard Dannatt "Leading from the Front", ill recount it here with paraphrasing so there is a bit of context. The year was 1973/4. "I flew from Manchester to Belfast, thoughtfully putting my .38 S&W in my suitcase... I noticed my suitcases were being searched. When my turn came, I said quietly to the seracher that he might like to open my suitcase away from the general public... and by the way "Here are my Army ID card and firearms certificate"... A Royal Ulster Constabulary Sergeant looked at my paperwork and thanked me... Some while later two young men in trenchcoats were going around looking for someone in the departures lounge... I pulled my newspaper over my nose... "Excuse me, Sir, are you Lieutenant Dannnatt of the Green Howards?"... A conversation ensued relating to my revolver, the law, army regulations and what changes had been made in the last few months." (Pages 61-62) He was made to give up his revolver, although he is vague about the reasons I assume it was due as much to the army prohibiting privately owned firearms due to forensics reasons (Northern Ireland was a situation where every bullet would likely have to be accounted for) as civilian law. You can read it on the Internet archive, it's a very good book, i've read it twice now.

[@Roger_Stenning]

The FIBUA doctrines hadn't changed much - if at all - in the 90's, when I was in the Territorial Army (T.A.). I still have winces at some of the memories of mishaps in Tin City at Longmoor 🤣

[@Echo2-2]

This was fascinating. Excellent work!

[@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603]

The number of times i was killed in house to house clearing in the 80s luckily i never had to do it for real 😂

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Great video. Drones add a whole new dimension now as moving outdoors in general is dangerous.

[@warwickscram1656]

I hate drones. So dishonourable.

[@lord125000]

​@@warwickscram1656 There is no honor in war That is an illusion A lie told to soldiers in order to accept death at the commander's orders

[@1alexjeremiah]

I love how you put Call of Duty 3 British soundtrack in there really goes with the theme!

[@mancroft]

Excellent analysis. Thank you.

[@JohnMcMahon.]

I grew up in Belfast with British soldiers on our streets daily. This is so relatable.

[@TheGrenadier97]

The old SLR/FN FAL, always a sweet sight...

[@fruitbat4429]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. From the comfort of my armchair I can make two observations: 1. If I was defending a house I would have no doubt I was sitting in a death-trap. 2. If I was a assaulting a house I would have no doubt I was entering a death-trap. Hmm . . . urban warfare is nasty.

[@farrazaulia2917]

Cool video man

[@joshb7415]

great video mate

[@Alguien644]

Im gonna use this in strategy games, thanks

[@Daimo83]

I fought in the Battle of Copehill Down... this is exactly how we were taught 15 years ago. It may not have been in your pamphlet but within each building the SC/2IC is making a mental map of the floor. As each room is cleared the rifleman describes the layout of the room including windows and doors, which helps him direct the flow of the attack. It's both brutal and exhausting, and realistically a section won't take more than a house or two.

[@qboxer]

Fantastic video

[@destroyerarmor2846]

Very nice video 🤝

[@propeltheprototoaster8151]

1:07 "limit the employment of artillery due to proximity to friendlies/civilians" Russia: Hold my beer

[@Seth9809]

I’ve seen a lot of this in CIV Div videos, including using a hammer and ladder

[@SusCalvin]

The manuals here also mentioned demolishing the floor between levels of a building and using ladders or piled furniture to create new paths between floors.

[@pyeitme508]

Wow awesome!

[@masteroogway3055]

I Did a lot of urban areas fighting training in my army class , and event after for drill , it was fun and exciting fighting in urban areas but it was hell although i did "survived" a lot i still wouldn't love to be in any urban combat 5 hours of this is already stressful and you dont see the time passing by

[@nicholascampbell2824]

anyone else notice the guy accidently unload a bullet into the ceiling at 2:32

[@RetroGamesCollector]

Ha, hadn't noticed that! 😂

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

I don't think it was an accident, in House to House Fighting (1943) there is a moment where the ceiling of the first room gets shot on purpose before the section proceeds through the building.

[@simonsignolet5632]

Looks like one bloke remembered the technique or was recruit trained elsewhere. Or it was a "ND"... When we couldn't gain entry from the roof or an upstairs window, we used to have to enter via a ground floor window and work our way upwards. We'd routinely shoot into the ceilings of the captured floor before assaulting up to the next level. Also, upon sight, into the ceilings near stairwells and attic accesses in case there were any enemy persons waiting to ambush us or drop a grenade. I don't recall other units doing this when WE were the people defending upstairs. I don't know if it's in the manual but it was basic Para Regt doctrine.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@simonsignolet5632 Maybe the guy in the video is a washed out Para who ended up back in "the hats"?

[@NatoVSChina]

​@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738why did they shoot the ceiling once first?

[@brokenpotato438]

Can you make a video on defensive urban tactics? Theres tons of stuff out there about assaulting buildings and all that, but I hardly see anything about how to defend an urban position

[@adods9824]

Sandbags, booby traps, snipers, grenades !

[@Dive2005]

damn, is that the music from COD3

[@Bobbymaccys]

I see you are a man of culture as well!

[@dont.accept.the.hoover]

this only works if there are no trip mines around the door frame.

[@40kFan-gv3dc]

Maybe you could do a video on greek, spanish and italian squad organisation next? I can't find the modern squad organisation of either countries anywhere

[@davidluu4719]

Can you do one about canadian airborne regiment 60s-80s

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

try applying these tactics to a city like Barcelona. .....or, anywhere in South America. every city block is a fortress 100 meters wide. good luck getting through hallways and flank routes, if you find any at all... the moment you breach one, you're effectively in an interior courtyard surrounded by enemy lookouts.

[@zapbrannigan9770]

Given this was primarily tactics developed to fight the soviets in Europe I don’t think it was a major concern. As with tactics Terran and the enemy dictate it

[@voiceofraisin3778]

See if the Israelis can lend you a D-9 You'll suddenly find an access route the enemy didnt know about. Teddy bears go where they want to. If your feeling cheaper the Syrians found engineers UR-77 mine clearing line charges did the job just as well.

[@grimes797]

The village shown is Bonnland a Training Object at the Hammelburg training area, Home of the German Army Infantry school.

[@simonsignolet5632]

I *THOUGHT* I recognised some of it! I was trying to place it as a training area in the UK... 👍

[@TheRst2001]

There was a clip at the very beginning , which I kinda recall seeing on an official army northern Ireland video of similar 70s 90s era . Though that may have been in Germany

[@brianvannorman1465]

Very interesting.

[@jesuschrist5805]

I've seen a graphic on your website for The MEU. Are you going to do a video on it as well?

[@leejimmy8790]

Can you share where have u found the IWM training video for FIBUA. Seems it’s part of the School of Infantry training videos

[@BattleOrder]

See the pinned comment

[@Red-238]

Battle Order, can you do more Urban Warfare videos.

[@ca9968]

FIBUA, better known among the average British Squaddie as F.I.S.H...Fighting In Someones House...

[@mathewweeks9069]

My thoughts and prayers go out to you all

[@ThisGuyAd.]

The guy who guessed Northern Ireland gets the cigar 👏🏻😎

[@TheDzigi94]

It's great that you made a video about this. I would like to see a similar one on the development of urban combat since the Great War, or at least how the Germans and Soviets perfected urban combat during World War II.

[@JBinthesticks]

The first casualty had no chance. The enemy saw the muzzle of his SLR emerge from the corner five minutes before the soldier got there.

[@wessexdruid7598]

But at least he could use it left-handed, keeping himself behind cover - unlike the L85...

[@irishkiwi477]

Is the new members video in collaboration with Oxide?

[@meloncrusher3316]

That CoD 3 theme, nice

[@neilcombrink5231]

Ya i remember this well did it in 2009 lol i had to clime over a wall an wen i got over landed in to a rose bush lol

[@friscostreetstories5403]

I love the British DPM smocks.

[@greengiant1006]

Where did you find this old training footage?

[@BattleOrder]

See the pinned comment

[@user-gv2rm5qr6p]

Hi! Love your videos. You've covered some EU armies, talked about modernization plans of NATO countries in the realities of war that we see in Ukraine today. Would you be interested in looking into Germany, to compare its current military and structure, as well as its plans on modernization? Last year, a bill was passed to allocate 4 billion euros for its development. Thanks!

[@herptek]

I'm not sure if it is the constant nagging of NATO alarmists in America or an actual danger of instability introduced by Russia that has proven to be more effective driver of European defence preparations after the cold war. Everyone not insane in Europe seems to start taking these matters seriously.

[@abraham2172]

​@@herptek Its the vicious russian attack against Ukraine. This really sparked things off in terms of european defense.

[@herptek]

@@abraham2172 People woke up to reality. There has been since the cold war an unusual attitude in Europe where it wasn't uncommon for people to actually think that war would finally be history, if not everywhere then at least in Europe. Now the harsh reality has become obvious to everyone. People may or may not care about war but war certainly cares about people.

[@Peter-ur3yy]

0:05 the British infantry platoon does indeed have a section, three of them actually

[@vax3138]

Do a video on Rhodesian RLI

[@mitalibhowmick5841]

Can we download the Manuel's in internet?

[@johnsterling6659]

The L2 Sterling sub-machine gun---I have my own sub-machine gun, cool.

[@simonsignolet5632]

I think you might want to obtain a No5 bayonet (also used on the Enfield No5 "jungle carbine") for it. Already the choice weapon for room clearing, back in the day, the fitted bayonet made it rule supreme in this CQB environment. Looks sexy, too! Then get a L34A1 - choice. 😁

[@RMMilitaryHistory]

fun fact, me and Matt of the Armourers Bench paid to digitise the Fighting in Villages SSVC film :) Great work as ever Battle Order!

[@andrewmacdonald8076]

Good old pics but good new graphics 🥝🇳🇿😊

[@ZygmuntKletterstein]

Good vid, still valid

[@97bouda]

Same Tactics used today

[@Man-with_a-crooked_glance]

While the fal is a good rifle, i certainly wouldn't want to carry it in a close urban fighting, there's a reason why the Israelis replaced the gun.

[@RADIOMAN757]

Can you do a video about Morocco

[@69Phuket]

In Soviet Russia. Safety is No1 Priority. No buildings remain. ;)

[@LUNATIC75]

"Sending the boys round", 60's style.

[@kaibotski4939]

What is the source of the video clips?

[@BattleOrder]

See the pinned comment

[@Sean85Laney]

Urban combat is nutts

[@RossP17]

Does anyone know where I can find British field manuals and handbooks about urban warfare? You can buy American ones online but I’d like British ones, dated 1960-2000 preferably

[@RossP17]

I know he has a link to a pdf for the reference of this video on his website but I’d like to purchase physical copies

[@BattleOrder]

Gotta get lucky with someone having it on ebay basically. They’re collectors items for a lot of older people

[@RossP17]

Thank you! I Appreciate the reply. Luckily enough for me someone was listing the exact one you reference in this video so I just bought it

[@myopicchiwawa]

Interesting to compare the MALAYAN EMERGENCY versus the IRISH TROUBLES 20 years later. Malaysian Chinese failed because China had not yet set up to support them in the 50s unlike the help they gave to the Viet Minh at Dien Bien Phu.

[@spawntrooper]

we called it " Fish" = fighting in someone else house

[@brianmacc1934]

Next lesson ; how to wreck the house and steal things

[@horseman2777]

Preparing for the BAOR expansion I see lol

[@NedTheEvictor1274]

BAOR is all but gone, only a few hundred people over there now afaik. My old camp is now a coffee shop lol

[@ProfessorSnitch]

Holy shit Call of Duty 3 soundtrack.

[@kennywilliams7513]

and it all goes to shit once you start taking casualties. mines booby traps granades down drains six foot pickets on the stairs etc etc it's hellish. resupply through the sewers oh it's tuff you got to strip down your kit and pack every pocket with ammo!

[@tl8134]

FIBUA AKA FISH - Fighting In Someone's House

[@saltreplacement]

do these work in squad?

[@eaglestrike211lel2]

You could probably implement some of the principles but don't think you can replicate everything. You are much more limited in what you can do in Squad compared to real life. One of the guys in the Discord recently commented that doing CQB in games like Ready or Not or Squad is arguably more difficult because you don't get total freedom, you're much less flexible in video games than in real life and AI and people in video games are not nearly as risk averse in games as in real life.

[@Seth9809]

I think if you could go through the roof first you avoid players being eager to blow themselves up as there is no surrender button in most games

[@brokenpotato438]

For video games, you dont need to do fancy stuff. Just the basics (Pie'ing rooms before entering, using grenades before pushing, and pushing into rooms quickly with your teammates while prefiring corners) is enough to utterly decimate most players

[@pattracey105]

The British perfected this in Northern Ireland and have trained many other countries including Israel who is using it for anything they haven’t turned into rubble.

[@ChongiFishing]

2:29 was that a ND caught on camera?

[@Ponkotsu67]

I came here from a comment on r/CombatFootage talking about how similar IDF urban fighting tactics is similar to the British.

[@richardtodd6559]

Couldn’t help but laugh at the photo…the guy with gpmg kicking door while 2 guys with sub machine guns watch…should be other way round

[@tianrui1]

Wait when was this uploaded?

[@BattleOrder]

When was what uploaded?

[@eaglestrike211lel2]

Brendan releases videos about a day in advance for patreons

[@tianrui1]

@@eaglestrike211lel2 oh

[@saiprateek5779]

​@@BattleOrder hey brother.. can you make a video on formations of Indian Armed Forces.. specifically Army please You'll be surprised to find out that it has mix of USA, UK, Russian, French, etc., tactics

[@Seth9809]

@saiprateek5779 vehicle decides the squad layout right

[@diasulhaqisya954]

neat

[@wagahagwa6978]

i wonder how these were tested and changed during the troubles

[@BattleOrder]

The Troubles was one of the influences that led to adopting the fire team concept to replace rifle group / gun group. Basically having "bricks" of 4 men who would provide 360 degree security within the team

[@InTheFootstepsofHeroes]

Tactics for Northern Ireland and Cold War Germany were completely difference. COIN and FIBUA are not the same.

[@wagahagwa6978]

@BattleOrder huh, very cool, thanks for the info! 🤙

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

During The Troubles, British troops used to patrol down a single street as one platoon, but it got changed to them patrolling as separate bricks (fireteams).

[@Michael-sl9vi]

I see captain price in the thumbnail

[@quigglebert]

FISH, Fighting in someone's house

[@supergeek0177]

The Russians probably should have read the pdf scan of that manual you uploaded lol

[@Jimimac73]

Just like a game of rugby 😂

[@dovidell]

frags , not flash -bangs ?

[@user-eh8oo4uh8h]

06:57 vibe check

[@ripsnorter185]

The real ones will know that it’s not called FIBUA but called FIBAR