Old School Mass Gain With Peter Khatcherian!

[@PeterKhatcherian]

Thanks Alex for having me on! Really enjoyed this one 💪🏻

[@AlexLeonidas]

Thanks again for joining me Peter, was a fun & informative talk! 💪🏻

[@jeghedderhenrik]

i thanks you both. i learned a lot of new tips...e.g. chest flyes is about the streth and many other details,that i missed in videos, where im more focused on what i see than listening

[@analogcrunch4716]

Pete great content

[@appdev6158]

you look very knowledgeable person!!

[@Leexdd]

When he introduced himself as Alex Leonidas and not Alex from Alphadestiny. The progressive rebranding overload

[@AlexLeonidas]

You already know! Big changes are incoming

[@flekatron2148]

The collab we needed

[@BonytoBeastly]

@@AlexLeonidas Awesome!

[@EquityCall]

He's earned it.

[@aidaninsua]

Such a badass name too he should be saying it loud and proud😎

[@BaldOmniMan]

Just finished this up. Really enjoyed this one

[@AlexLeonidas]

Happy you went through it all and enjoyed it!

[@NattyLifeYT]

I'm absolutely loving these podcasts Alex, please keep them coming! You are an excellent interviewer, not just because of your overall knowledge, but because you obviously come in prepared and keep the conversation flowing with engaging question after question. Really makes me think we are entering a golden age of natural bodybuilding. So much great content coming out on youtube nowadays.

[@AlexLeonidas]

Thank you so much man!!

[@night_traffic]

Do you think pete is natural?

[@mrgame97]

Ok this is the collab we all needed. Alex you are about to become the best fitness channel on youtube

[@AlexLeonidas]

Want to get JACKED using old school training methods? Peter shares his close to 20 year advice & experiences. 0:00 Introduction 0:27 Who is Peter? 1:30 Is Old School better? 2:24 The basics work 3:50 Carryover between lifts 5:37 Cool thing about Science Based community 6:22 Super stretch principle 9:16 Constant tension? 9:52 Closer grip for benching 12:06 Dips and chins? 12:32 Weighted pullups BLEW UP his back! 15:51 Sternum pullups! 17:19 All about chest flyes! 20:27 Cables are great for lats 22:05 Posing for mind muscle connection 23:09 Legs and "must do" exercises 26:46 Variations of the Big 3 & foundation 28:55 Favorite squat variations for quads 31:57 80-85% barbell/dumbbell training 33:24 What about shoulders? 36:18 Important muscles for Old School Physique 39:42 Glaring weaknesses, train how you need to 41:40 Favorite split for bigger arms 45:05 Muscle priority explained 47:50 Push/pull? 49:06 Little isolation for chest/back days? 50:55 Pre-exhaust the arms? 51:52 The BEST Arm Day advice 54:43 Pete's approach to growing calves 56:53 Calves are individualized 59:13 Broscience AND Science 1:02:13 Consistency is #1 1:05:16 Progression is AUTOMATIC? 1:08:12 What worked before may not work now 1:10:51 It takes time to build a physique 1:14:52 Bulking beats maingaining! 1:19:17 Gaining 5lbs of muscle & relative strength 1:23:08 Slow weight gain is key 1:26:10 Same method for cutting? 1:27:22 Max weight loss for shreddedness 1:30:14 Slowly get shredded or return to bulking 1:32:34 Peter's many shredded side effects 1:39:15 You don't need to be single digit! 1:43:47 Favorite old school bodybuilders 1:48:18 Advice for younger self 1:49:45 Common fitness myth 1:50:33 The motivation to keep going 1:52:09 Where to find Peter Peter's Channel: kzbin.info IG: instagram.com/jakked/ Site: tinyurl.com/2p83ck22

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

what a hero

[@UnprofessionalAthlete]

Def one you gotta listen to more than once. So many keys dropped.

[@baldsportsfan9368]

Holy crap I just discovered Peter's channel this week, I was wondering if you'd ever interview him. Love the info he puts out and the way it's presented.

[@SXLLXNBXE]

same

[@Millogang_]

x2

[@flekatron2148]

Awesome channel and info he supplies

[@MarioTomicOfficial]

Went into this without knowing who Peter was. Turned out to be a great discussion! Some of the things he mentioned you really only figure out after a decade of serious lifting.

[@AlexLeonidas]

I'm happy you enjoyed this chat, Mario! Definitely a lot of experienced based gems here.

[@PeterKhatcherian]

Thanks Mario! 💪🏻

[@mynmeisname4825]

​@@PeterKhatcheriandoes old school bodybuilding also includes never smiling or laughing?

[@TheKoog97]

@@mynmeisname4825of course

[@JamesBodybuilding]

Been a huge fan of Pete's work for a while, awesome to see you giving him a platform. Very underrated fitness channel!

[@mysteryupdates929]

A big fan of pete for bodybuilding and you for calisthenics and I always thought pete is very underrated thanks for featuring him

[@andrewgray9497]

Been watching this guy since he had 10k subs. He’s got some really legit and realistic advice

[@soofitnsexy]

IF YOU ARE ON JUICE

[@diodato22]

If you put in the…right PEDs you can go beyond the best talented natural man that has ever born!

[@soofitnsexy]

@@diodato22 exactly

[@theswede5402]

Im very glad i stumbled upon Peter before and i now follow the channel religiously when an upload drops.

[@itz_bahamut3822]

Peter is a really good source for old school training that simply works. I have been implementing his stuff and have seen great success

[@barbellbryce]

Man your content just keeps getting better and better! You absolutely deserve the support and recognition that you get. Can't thank you enough 🔥

[@willbl6185]

best interview format on youtube

[@Ethan-Relearning-Movement]

Fantastic episode and excellent guest. Your skills as a host are getting really good, these conversations flow so smoothly now.

[@AlexLeonidas]

Thank you man!

[@jamiegould8845]

So great to see thais collaboration, have loved both of ur videos for over a year now. Great content.

[@rolfrolf9176]

Alex has been on fire with these videos lately, really digging it

[@genestringini8215]

The interview I've been waiting for.

[@twodizzy2979]

this is exactly what i needed man, ive been learning about old silver era bodybuilding tips so this is gold

[@EquityCall]

Great solid advice from a guy who definitely looks the part.

[@Tnap65]

Been waiting on this GOAT of a video with Peter. Good shit brother 👍🏼

[@fistnamelastname5130]

You need to write a book, man. You have chapters of knowledge and insight from so many perspectives and experiences

[@yfaewwegfawg]

Some of the best fitness content we’ve ever seen 🙏 you and your guests demonstrate such humility!

[@internetuser9342]

Finally! Two of my favorite channels

[@liamburns8554]

Great guest. His channel deserves way more subs. Hands down the best convo in the industry I have heard in a while.

[@AlexLeonidas]

Underrated gem and I'm happy you enjoyed the chat!

[@DavidSanchez-cc7sq]

What a awesome video without all the cussing and swearing, thanks for the video it was very helpful

[@Bearme73]

Well done by both presenters. The information was on point and entertaining.

[@eck0wns]

Thanks Alex and Peter, really feel like I could relate to a lot of Peter's lifting experience. It's nice to be able to relate to someone who had similar issues growing, and what work-arounds they employed to finally grow. Back and Biceps have always been difficult for me to connect with unless I'm using lighter-ish weight.

[@isaacgarcia9101]

This is so awesome thanks Alex! I been watchin pete lately love his stuff...but been watchin you Alex since the OG days. You, chris jones and wes watson changed my life when it comes to fitness !!! Thanks for all the knowledge and clutch info over the years man. Been awesome seeing u get bigger n bigger slowly over the years...like a real natural. No roids...just rage lol.

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

Man this was an absolute GEM

[@MODELBODYINTL]

I love this - probably my favorite (and accurate) fitness convo in all of social media. People - you have to eat to grow!!

[@MINEvsWILD1]

Ur podcasts with other KZbin fitness people are the best!

[@philliponfitness]

Great talk listened to this while hitting legs

[@rossscarbro4602]

Whoah! This collab is legendary status!

[@WillWinterz]

Peter has one of the best channels on old school methods.

[@MrTVx99]

Alex I don't know how you do it. Most of these interviews I have never watched a video with the guest but you somehow always have incredible discussions and make me watch a 2 hour interview no problem. You also don't just do repetitive talk or fillers like a lot of channel, you discuss something different with all your guests and bring out very niche but important topics. Well done.

[@AdopteeOutOftheFog]

Yo this guy Pete’s Chanel is legit, always putting his tips to use and finding they are always effective.

[@samwatts3450]

Bro the content just keeps on coming. Videos from no one else gets me as hyped as they do from you. Thanks for everything!

[@zlugo628]

Been watching this guy for a few months he makes good stuff glad to see him get some shine

[@janailtongoncalvesdesouza4160]

Wow... two of my favorite channels \o/

[@BroManAndSkatePunk]

This is some really great content that I personally resonate with. Keep it up, proud of you.

[@peterbutler39]

Gotta say Alex i really enjoyed this talk... some absolute gold in this... i've followed Peter's videos for a while now and he always has solid info.

[@eoinforHIT]

Mike Mentzer was writing about close grip movements for chest pressing and chinning/pulldowns since the 90's. Also the benefits of heavy dips and chins since the 80's.

[@darbyparke9105]

Thanks for introducing me to this guy, just subscribed to his channel!

[@maxtandremenoje4129]

Pete is the real deal! Im a huge fan of his old school videos

[@GuillaumeLeValiant]

This was a brilliant talk, i loved it every second. Thanks to both of you!

[@steffenpetersen2103]

Shiiit. I have been waiting for this !!!

[@2jmajjic]

This was great one of the best in the series

[@Simoayed]

2 best channels, great video!

[@blazinglicks]

thanks for the show guys! - awesome hearing you guys talk this out. Big fan of Peter, and nice to meet you alex :) o/

[@thebard20]

So hyped for this one

[@SXLLXNBXE]

3 minutes in and enjoying a lot. thanks guys.

[@BaldOmniMan]

Instagram username checks out. He’s jacked 🥂

[@AlexLeonidas]

Got that dense old school look!

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

@@AlexLeonidas dudes traps are towering

[@fender1000100]

Is he natty thats the question.

[@P2541-kz1cu]

@@fender1000100 no

[@fender1000100]

@@P2541-kz1cu You know or just assuming.

[@omp365]

Two of the most underrated lifting tubers imo

[@lefonwastaken3393]

Been following this dude for a while. He has good content!

[@AlexLeonidas]

No doubt! He knows the old school history and how to best apply the principles.

[@flekatron2148]

No bs, straight to the point!

[@flekatron2148]

@@-nath-7837what do you mean?

[@ezradanger]

I just found Peter's channel thanks to this interview, and I'm glad I did. Tons of great info.

[@koleary1798]

As someone who's watched KZbin fitness content since the Mike Changs days, can I say how unbelievably great the quality of content has gotten. Night and day different vs the old days.

[@89sharlo]

That was great!

[@SuperPatJelly]

Been waiting for this.

[@Ash-D-]

2 mins in and i already know its going to be a banger! Loving the frequent podcast content at the moment!

[@AlexLeonidas]

Oh yeah there's lots of gems in here! Enjoy Ash

[@Ash-D-]

@@AlexLeonidas Cheers dude!

[@pterpsvin8887]

How about that strength standard video. Similar to the one you did with strict Press for Big delts. You can do Bench for chest, Shrugs for traps, Squats, etc.

[@AlexLeonidas]

I can do that

[@pterpsvin8887]

@@AlexLeonidas would be great

[@carlfitness302]

Bro its my rest day gonna watch this 🙌💪

[@Oyashio202]

This guy was huge when he was young. Surprised he hasn't competed as an older guy. He's absolutely massive now.

[@sirhc4986]

Awesome video. Two of my favorites!

[@davidwilson2495]

Hey Peter how about doing a video on building muscle old school for men over 50

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

17:38. I was doing 50-70 lb (musta been questionable form) chest flyes at 17/18 years old and my chest was by far more developed than anything else. I even stopped doing them because my chest got too developed imo to everything else at that time. would love to do one of these talks with u sometime

[@guebesalocs3306]

I was waiting for this 🔥🔥🔥

[@skrajina8037]

Peter is a great dude!

[@UnprofessionalAthlete]

29:44 this is me but w front squats w my heels elevated. I do it after deadlifting and I swear my lower back feels great after. Great quad builder for me.

[@anameforyoutube593]

Peter’s channel is a literal goldmine

[@spiritual_hypertrophy]

Really good episode!

[@BenjaminL04]

the best collaboration

[@prathameshshetty5250]

So many words of wisdom. Subbed right away. I am loving your podcasts. Invite Brawny King in the future. He is very knowledgeable.

[@iDallyHD]

I used to use a wider grip on bench press because I’m 6’4 so my arms are long, but I would always get shoulder pain and I got turned off from barbell presses. However, I recently switched to a closer grip (just slightly outside shoulder width) and now I get zero shoulder pain, and the chest & tricep gains have been great

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

Same here

[@teledude1owns]

I'm a man who loves wire chest flys more than most people. The contraction of the wire chest fly is superior, but like you said we're talking about the stretch. The stretch on the dumbbell chest fly is 2-3x more than what I feel using a wire chest fly. I think they are both good of course. Strech for the dumbbells, contraction for the wires.

[@Limbaugh_]

Yeah simple physics

[@jack8998]

This was so sick!!!

[@atsilverine]

Thanks guys, great discussion!

[@tmmnago2722]

The info about calves training is so interesting.

[@peterbutler39]

Yeh same... i always thought in my mind that calves are so used to lighter loads (mainly body weight) and endurance that if i trained them for 5-10 reps, slow full rom with very heavy weight it would produce more growth... but lightweight, minimal stretch and very high reps like 30+ burn like hell and the pump is insane that you can't walk properly.

[@mardigbidanian7119]

Glad Alphadestiny interviewed my compatriot.

[@nmnate]

Uh oh, the dreaded calves topic! Tbh I love training my calves. Seated is my favorite at the moment: 1 second stretch at the bottom for me (as deep as I can) and 1 second contraction (with really forcing the squeeze). Now that I've been training them this way for a while, I'm not super sore afterward (slightly noticeable when I stretch), but I can get a lot of disruption after a couple hard sets. If I try that same stretch / contraction approach to standing raises, I can get insanely sore and lots of disruption. Still trying to figure out what works for standing. Totally agree on heavy sets for seated raises (8s are great) and high reps for standing (20+).

[@thepump9265]

Keep up the podcasts! Learning alot

[@nonattylimits]

Great information!

[@shawnpatten6515]

@1:50:30 the most important learning point. It isn’t trust the process, it is fall in love with the process.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

I been making whoopie with the process

[@CrazyGamer-hq6gs]

great video as always bro , my suggestion for new interview is eric bugez talking about mindset (if you want of course )

[@satinderjit4]

Can't wait to watch this

[@arnoldfreeman2885]

Damn dude my two favorite fitness KZbinrs released a video on my birthday?! How’d I miss this?

[@mattfarndale2835]

learnt alot from this one, cheers gents!

[@dividendking3686]

Awesome! I just started to weight my pull-ups. I worked up to 11,10,9,8 strict pull-ups. My plan is to do 4 reps, 3 sets of backoff BW 10,9,8 for my first week. Next week is 2 sets, 5 and 4 reps for weighted, 2 back offs 10,9. Week 3 it will be 3 sets weighted 6,5,4 and one back off 8 to 10 reps. Week 4 weighted 7,6,5 one back off 8-10 reps and week 5 will be 8,7,6 and no back off. Increase weight at week 6 and start over.

[@analogcrunch4716]

You guys should dive into Phil Hernons training style. Lots of similarities as far as training Arms with Legs so they are fresh instead of say Triceps after Chest.

[@PursuitOfStrength.]

Sick collab , you two remind me of each other

[@mrpink6022]

great colab....!

[@nickbuckley7049]

Great content, can you QnA with some advanced callisthenics athletes, that would be helpful aswell, fans in australia alex!

[@omerul-farukarslaner8531]

Alex Leonidas is such a badass name

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

59:30 I used to think this was the way but I don't anymore. I think it's okay to waste time and struggle to learn things that you might've read or watched in a video. It's part of the journey, to learn the hard way. Everyone is in a rush to do everything efficiently and free up time but for what?

[@Motivatorteo]

This is some next level advice. Wow.

[@Fatfrogsrock]

1:01:36 Jeremy Ethier?

[@LUKA_911]

Most probably

[@Reppintimefitness]

Notification gang member in the building 🔥

[@tonystephengrayson]

I've been 'torso dominant' for years. I come up with a split to improve that and its working well. It's pretty basic too. Day 1- chest/back/traps 6-10 Day 2- shoulders/arms/forearms 6-10 Day 3- Legs/glutes 6-10 Day 4- chest/back/traps 15-20 Day 5- shoulders/arms/forearms 15-20 Day 6- Legs/glutes 15-20 Day 7- Rest. REPEAT Make it as brutal as you need, my workouts usually last around 90 mins. It's tough but is working nicely

[@user-he4ef9br7z]

Splits don't matter. As long as you hit a muscle often enough and give it enough time to recover. Different slits don't really have any added effect.

[@StandStrength]

Never heard of this gentleman but this exactly what I find interesting and want to learn from. Thanks for sharing, subbed to him and will listen to this while I workout.