Old vs New: Is The Jeep Wrangler TJ STILL The Best Jeep Ever Made?

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@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
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@DaOzMan0608
@DaOzMan0608 Ай бұрын
Y'all forgot about the Eco diesel, IMO the better engine option.
@upscaleshack
@upscaleshack Ай бұрын
I daily drive a 2003 TJ Sport. 4.0L, 5-speed, with Dana 44 rear, with only just over 80,000 miles on it. I love it, and it's fun to drive, and very good in city traffic. My only complaint is the fuel economy. I live in Kenya where gasoline is currently the equivalent of $5.28/gallon. I will hang onto my Jeep as long as possible, but I need something more efficient for my commute.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 Ай бұрын
2005 manual Rubicon here. Not selling...
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 Ай бұрын
Scooters go great with Jeeps; awesome fuel economy, and the Jeep can carry it on the hitch when needed.
@AltRockKing
@AltRockKing Ай бұрын
Diesel swap!
@mollypolly7
@mollypolly7 Ай бұрын
I bought a cheap 2013 Yaris, with the fuel I save I can keep both and use the tj just for wheeling and fun
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar Ай бұрын
​ @AltRockKing that's great on stock tires. But lifted with bigger tires, not so great. I have lifted XJ with factory turbo diesel engine and 33s and it has drinking problem too.
@Nanan00
@Nanan00 Ай бұрын
The crazy thing is you could buy a TJ in 2015 for $5k or less and now you can barely find them for under $8k.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 Ай бұрын
2015 was 10 years ago, the newest TJ is 19 years old. 5k in 2015 is 7k today w inflation.
@przemyslawbargiel4434
@przemyslawbargiel4434 Ай бұрын
I agree with 5=7k with inflation but back then you were buying 10 years old Jeep instead of 20 years old Jeep today 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 Ай бұрын
In 2006, it took 6 months before I could find anyone willing to pay $6k for a 1999 TJ. The market is weird.
@AmscarA-zz9ke
@AmscarA-zz9ke Ай бұрын
Newer cars are so expensive and unreliable
@Crab44
@Crab44 Ай бұрын
yes even when he said 8000 I said where where where???
@gilbertferguson1685
@gilbertferguson1685 Ай бұрын
The best Jeep is the one you own and love. Perfectly happy with our base two door 2022 Wrangler with 3.6 engine. 😎
@LGoody9273
@LGoody9273 Ай бұрын
Ain't that the truth! DD'd a 93 YJ for several years, loved it. Traded up for a 23 JLUR, really really love it. Oh and no more white knuckles on the freeway 😁
@TheNativeAmericanDream
@TheNativeAmericanDream Ай бұрын
Great comment! Perfectly happy here with my 2015 two door JK. It’s a joy.
@Chosen_Juan
@Chosen_Juan Ай бұрын
I daily drive a 2004 TJ X. It had 10 miles on it when I bought brand new in 2005. It currently has 211,000 miles on it.
@bryanmiller2023
@bryanmiller2023 28 күн бұрын
I had a 99 TJ that I daily drove for 10 years. I loved it, put a 4 1/2 inch lift and 33 inch tires on it and it would go just about anywhere. A limited slip differential in the rear axel makes a huge difference in where a TJ will go. They should have disconnected the front sway bar and found a harder trail to really show what a TJ can do.
@spartanj2957
@spartanj2957 Ай бұрын
That straight 6 was dam great !!
@kevinvoyer5053
@kevinvoyer5053 28 күн бұрын
Once again guys decent video. Here a couple points to ponder. In 95, I bought a new Wrangler S, as basic as could be, no AC, no radio or carpet, the only option was a fold and tumble rear seat. Not even power steering. The 2.5 4 cyl, 5 speed, open 4:10 differentials. Basic silver steelies I replaced with 15x8 black rock crawler style steel wheels, on black Wrangler with spice top and seats and dashboard, plus roll cage padding. All for an out the door price of $12,400! That I got $8,000 back in in trade in 2003! With 78,000 hard but very well cared for miles, only a new Bestop neoprene lined spice color quiet top with dark windows. Because it still looked new! Today? We have a 2024 Gladiator, because we need a 4dr truck. But wish for a two door Willys, with the 35” tire package that actually can be had for around the same $36,000 as a loaded Side by Side these days. The one thing I added to my YJ, was a hand parking brake lever, instead of the pedal, that came in handy when using a parking brake trick I use still today, when having open differential in the rear. When one wheel spins needlessly, I we I will slowly apply the handbrake to help control the wheel spinning and send power across to the other side, that works on almost any vehicle, even folk lifts that have no suspension!
@mariodesmo
@mariodesmo Ай бұрын
I bought a 12K mile, 2002 TJ Sport. 4.0L, 5-speed, with Dana 44 rear axle in 2005 for $16K. I then added an Nth Degree 6 inch lift, 35's, lockers(Fr&Rr), rear disc brakes, and swapped out the front Dana 30 for a 44. I've also personalized it over the years with a double DIN infotainment system, and other goodies. I've thought numerous times about selling and upgrading to a newer model. But my little TJ is a point and shoot veihicle. You point it at an obstacle and go. That's all there is to it. Plus DMV fees/insurance are crazy cheap compared to a new one(I'm in Calif). It's never let me down, and I just can't justify getting rid of it for a newer model. I would enjoy seeing your silver bullet on more difficult trails! Good Luck!
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 28 күн бұрын
And now you could probably sell it for 20k lol.
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect Ай бұрын
I hated the adaptive cruise on the Toyota 4-runner. So happy to have my JK back. There is nothing like the experience of driving a 2 door Jeep.
@craigdoesstuff5270
@craigdoesstuff5270 24 күн бұрын
I recently picked up an 03 TJ and its so much fun to drive. I miss the analog feeling of the TJ compared to my JT. I appreciate the simplicity of the TJ and how easy it is to wrench. I am currently keeping it stock but have big plans for it in the future
@tanner_ij
@tanner_ij Ай бұрын
Absolutely love the TJs, had mine for almost 15 years now and still enjoy everyday I drive it. There's just nothing like em. Wish the body wasn't starting to fall off of it or I'd keep it for another 15.
@patrickseals5746
@patrickseals5746 Ай бұрын
Have to say after much reading on jeeps the TJ is my choice for affordability, ability off road and simplicity.
@patrickirish8110
@patrickirish8110 Ай бұрын
Fun vid! Who doesn't enjoy watching a couple of Jeeps have some good times running up a mountain?! Awesome entertainment for a lazy Sunday.
@shawnconrad9292
@shawnconrad9292 Ай бұрын
I have a 2000 TJ Sahara with 94k on it. I love it. The only thing I’d trade it for is an LJ Rubicon. It doesn’t see the Buffalo winters anymore but if needed, it’ll roll through 3’feet of snow without blinking. A couple of years ago it pushed a Silverado out of a snowbank without breaking a sweat and kept on rolling.
@jnmc-vx4fw
@jnmc-vx4fw Ай бұрын
We’ll go up a a few years and get an 06 , rubicon. That is what I still own and it’s the best by far .
@pleinairbarnettoutdoors
@pleinairbarnettoutdoors Ай бұрын
I wish they still had that 4.0 i6 today
@bernardhossmoto
@bernardhossmoto Ай бұрын
That climb over the last ledge was awesome, much better than the new model with the larger tires.
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich Ай бұрын
The TJ is everything great the modern Wrangler sold to become the sales success it is. The size and weight of the TJ was its biggest asset compared to the new JL. We took a nearly stock 2.5L 5-speed TJ with open diffs all the way through lockhart basin. We had to stack a rock or two, but its compact dimensions made the most of its 31 inch tires. Jeep needs to give us a TJ like vehicle again...or at least lay off ROXOR.
@farmdog93
@farmdog93 19 күн бұрын
I had a 91 yj and it's been my favorite of the jeeps I've had so far, I have an 08 s door wrangler x, love the channel, great video guys, happy holidays
@dylanhamel9956
@dylanhamel9956 24 күн бұрын
@TFLoffroad We own a 2023 Wrangler Willys Sport. Love it but we found the manual challenging to drive stock. The engine is a bit too quiet, unlike our other manual cars. We did a muffler delete which kept it at a reasonable volume but improved the drivability of the manual to the point we wouldn't ever consider the auto. I would recommend you give one a chance if you can!
@baxter4303
@baxter4303 Ай бұрын
My first jeep was a 1976 cj5. 304 v8 3 speed manual. The jeep was a beast.
@timmcooper294
@timmcooper294 Ай бұрын
When it comes to climbing, a lighter vehicle has the laws of physics in it's favor. Moab and Sand hollow, Utah are great places for little Jeeps to go out and pick on the big heavy ones on trails like Pritchett Canyon and Cliffhanger. Light, short wheelbase actually helps on some of the big stair steps that the newbies say you need a long wheel base and tall tires for. So much fun !!!
@d3uc3diggl3r
@d3uc3diggl3r Ай бұрын
I bought my first jeep this past March, I picked up a 2012 Jk 2dr sport. It had 52k miles on it. I love even the base model jeep, I havnt been stuck yet or had too much trouble driving around the muddy New Jersey Pine Barrens.
@jeepinintexas6215
@jeepinintexas6215 Ай бұрын
I have a 2012 JK 2dr Sport S with the power options. I bought it used in August 2017 with 76k on the odometer. It has 140k now and has been slightly modified with 2.5" lift bumpers, sliders, winch and 33" tires. Also have a Kenwood with aftermarket speakers and amps. Perfect setup for my needs. I need to replace the ABS module though, it crapped out. Waiting for an opportunity to take it to Colorado and Big Bend in west Texas.
@Doncan0823
@Doncan0823 Ай бұрын
👌 Excellent comparison. Proves once again that old doesn’t necessarily means bad or outdated. 24:38 For an open differential, the TJ’s front axle greatly limited the air tire from spinning…
@jackpalczynski7884
@jackpalczynski7884 Ай бұрын
I started my Jeep ownership with a 90 YJ with the 6 and an auto. Those 112 hp pushing leaf springs felt like I was going 200 mph on the highway at 55. Next, an 02 TJ with the 4.0L. More power, luxury (for a Wrangler) and far better highway behavior. On to the progression came a couple JK 4 doors with the 3.6L. Worlds better on the highway. In the trails, the smaller YJ and TJ are better getting through tight, tree lined trails but look at the control arms. They're like pretzels waiting to fail. The aftermarket solves this with much better box or tubular control arms. Coming into today, where the aftermarket is huge for the TJ, it is ginormous for the JK and in searching craigslist or marketplace for parts, you can find anything from a JK for cheap. The JL is coming up on the aftermarket and will soon exceed the JK but of course, many parts swap between the JK and JL. The TJ also lacks any electronic nannies that make life difficult. I've experienced this where something tweaked the steering offroading, making the steering wheel off center when driving straight. An easy fix back in the garage, but it put the engine into limp mode for maybe 10 miles before allowing me to drive normally. We're also at a point where upgraded axles are a bit of monitoring marketplace. I'm actually considering a set that are on a complete JK where I'd swap the locker equipped dual D44s for my D30/D44 then re-sell the JK with the upgrades. Talking with a Jeep club member on a run over the weekend, the cost of this entire Jeep with ARB lockers and upgraded axles is cheaper than his upgrade to marketplace bought axles with a shop swapping them in. I'd do my own swap so would save a ton of money, of course.
@normbittner3762
@normbittner3762 Ай бұрын
Great video- I'm planning to replace my MT stock tires with the Firestone Destination X/Ton my 2022 Willys so it was good to see them on the JL.
@dancip8663
@dancip8663 23 күн бұрын
I recently went from a 95 YJ with 2.5L, 5spd, to an 02 TJ w/ 4.0, manual, D44 and feel like the TJ was worlds more civilized. Guess it's all about where you are coming from. I sold the 95 but still have a 94 4.0/5spd that while harsher, still has that simplistic nature that attacked me to Jeeps in the first place. They are just toys, as dailies modern SUVs fit our lifestyle better.
@yoyartube
@yoyartube Ай бұрын
For rock crawling and modifications, the LJ Rubicon is the best Jeep there ever was
@FloatinPossumHoller
@FloatinPossumHoller Ай бұрын
Perfect wheelbase, stock lockers. Best jeep.
@jlautomotive6349
@jlautomotive6349 29 күн бұрын
The old jeeps are soooo cool… I still want a YJ really bad! Great video guys!!🤙
@Crab44
@Crab44 Ай бұрын
love the TJ and the Cheapo! hope you do more with these gems!
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 Ай бұрын
I bought a 2011 JK Sport lifted on 35 Nittos for $18,000 back in 2021. 120K miles. 2 door, no lockers, but I love it.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 Ай бұрын
Alex and tommy spectacular job. You iconic duo
@NoLimitsCommemorativ
@NoLimitsCommemorativ Ай бұрын
2010 2 door sport with 176,000 miles, 6-speed with the 3800 V6. I just did all the brakes, rotors and calipers. She still needs work on the front axle, bad throwout bearing, and replaced the radiator. I'll drive it until it quits because I don't want to buy jack shtt until prices and quality on newer vehicles correct themselves.
@clawedroom2393
@clawedroom2393 19 күн бұрын
I paid 1500 bucks for a 2006 golden eagle tj, it has a rusty body but the frame is good and it runs like a top.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac Ай бұрын
That TJ has some kind of traction control,
@carrubep
@carrubep 22 күн бұрын
Yup, at 1:09 when the front tire was floating in the air, the floating tire rotated at the exact speed as the tire on the ground, suggesting a lunchbox locker at least.
@gtn383ci7
@gtn383ci7 Ай бұрын
You can put the JK hood up on the glass just like your JL. It's not something brought back.
@chadhull2167
@chadhull2167 20 күн бұрын
Nice watch, personally I'm an XJ keep guy. But love most jeeps
@Tracy-g4l
@Tracy-g4l 6 күн бұрын
I own a 98 jeep tj no hard top no electric windows no cruise control . Everything is just simple no luxuries no cry and she turns heads when you comb her hair and paint and powder. Ill never give her up for a new one
@abqcrutch
@abqcrutch Ай бұрын
I bought a stock TJ 5-speed from a friend 10 years ago. Had to buy big-boy seat brackets right away because I couldn't drive it. I'm 6'6" tall. Even with the new seat brackets, it was scary for me to drive; just not enough leg/foot room. Sold it to a shorter individual.
@erickhart6159
@erickhart6159 Ай бұрын
Wanted to get the TJ unlimited when they came out at the end of the TJ. Never did but seems like now they are very desirable.
@hemiwarrior6226
@hemiwarrior6226 2 күн бұрын
17:29- You offroad a lot, but you offroad in Colorado. While those things may not be as necessary on rock or desert sand, they are OVERWHELMINGLY important in the southeast on soft fields, fine grain beaches, pine forests, creek beds and in ooey gooey mud. I have an 05 Rubicon with a 6" Teraflex lift on 35s. I have gotten it stuck precisely one time when I had to use a winch and snatch block to get me out of a deep creek (because I did NOT trust the bridge that crossed it). But when I got myself out of the water (which came up to mid door level), I found out why. Someone, at some point, had stuck a rusting chassis, seemingly from a Toyota truck, in there as a crossing tool, but when my Jeep ran across it, part of it snapped and hooked itself onto my rear axle.
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 Ай бұрын
I love the size of the TJ and LJ. I'd prefer the lighter, narrower vehicle. I hope the next generation (JM?) doesn't get bigger again. Maybe they could put a naturally aspirated Hurricane engine in it...
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 Ай бұрын
💯
@msudawg1997
@msudawg1997 Ай бұрын
Nice video comparing now VS 20+ years ago. I bought an 04 "Columbia edition" middle of 23 with only 75k on the odometer. It's my around town and commute to work vehicle that I can take on the trails on the weekends. My biggest complaint is the 3.07 axle gears, especially with the 33" tires I'm running. A regear and lockers is eventually in my future.
@legostud
@legostud Ай бұрын
I loved my 2001 TJ. Put some good tires on it and you’re golden. The only thing I didn’t like was the bad frame design that rots out with salty roads.
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 Ай бұрын
There's a reason TJ's hold their value better than any other Jeep. I wanted to buy another TJ last year, but couldn't find anything I was willing to pay for, so I ended up with a YJ instead.
@is6566
@is6566 Ай бұрын
00:52 Since the posting of the video the old Jeep belongs to Alex’s EX girlfriend. She was CURRENT GIRLFRIEND at the time of filming only up to watching the video on the channel. 😃
@brentvance3958
@brentvance3958 Ай бұрын
You’re an idiot and not funny.
@DodgeMan_Bcole
@DodgeMan_Bcole 21 күн бұрын
Alex…That jacket is tough my guy 👌🏾
@Brownguy342
@Brownguy342 Ай бұрын
I had a 01 TJ. Let it go for a 09 jk. My wife wanted me to get the jk so we could travel in it more. The jk is a little more capable. That can mostly be accounted to the BLD. Overall I like the TJ more. However I would never go on a 5 hour trip to the beach or a 2 hour drive to the mountains in a TJ. That’s why I’ll keep the JK.
@jonathanlandon6076
@jonathanlandon6076 Ай бұрын
Maybe don't keep the JK...lol that's a pre pentastar...Definitely not the generation of wrangler to keep, the JL looks, drives, and is better than an 09 Jk and I'm pretty confident in 10 years the Jk values are going to be much lower than for an 87 wrangler with absolutely nothing good in the drive train department and zero comfort 😂
@Brownguy342
@Brownguy342 Ай бұрын
@ I’ll take my JK over a JL any day. The 3.8 isn’t great but it is reliable. The JK has a radio, not a “command center .” Two of my wheeling buddies have JLs. They have constant electrical gremlins. One of them is a 6speed and the clutch is terrible. I don’t know what the difference in the BLD is. There’s has gotten confused and stopped them. Mine never has. We go wheel on the weekend. I drive home. I hose it off. I drive it to work on Monday. They drive home. Hose it off. Fix a couple of broke things. I’ll take simple over complicated any day.
@adrianbargen9727
@adrianbargen9727 8 күн бұрын
I don't think you can replace the radio in the new wranglers. Many of your settings are only accessible from there. It wouldn't take more than a day to replace the speakers and add an amp though.
@wes9809
@wes9809 21 күн бұрын
Rust on the bottom of a TJ is insane. They didn't have drainage from the frame so it can kill it if you're not cautious and take preventative measures.
@JEEPDadXJ
@JEEPDadXJ Ай бұрын
I've still got a 2000 TJ SPORT soft top 4.0L with 190k on it now along with a 96 XJ also with the 4.0L but with 391k on it.
@BiO811HazarD
@BiO811HazarD Ай бұрын
What trail is this? I know they drive it in most of these videos, so just curious to look it up on Trails OffRoad.
@swampypolitics9574
@swampypolitics9574 Ай бұрын
The worst thing they ever did was get rid of the 4.0. I recently got a 2017 JK. Sahara unlimited. 4 door. Wanted something we could wheel, while also being able to fit the kids and daily drive. I love it. I've already scratched it up a bit (oops). But it's a blast. It wheels pretty good. Buried it in mudd a few weekends ago. Winched it out and kept going. The only shitty part... removing the hard top. We live in an apartment. So no garage or anything. So me and the wife man handle it off there. Not bad if it can be off for a few days. But taking it off just for the day. Sucks. But man is it amazing driving to work in the summer with the top and doors off. I absolutely love it. The kids love it.
@swampypolitics9574
@swampypolitics9574 Ай бұрын
One thing I dont like is the transmission. On the highway, it feels like it has to downshift alot on hills. It feels underpowered. Idk if it's because it's used and needs some sort of maintenance... it only has 60k miles. But it shifts weird. I find myself using it in "manual" mode more often than regular drive. And when I get on the throttle on an on ramp and it gets higher in the rpm.. it smells like a hot cst. I did recently have 2 injectors changed. It dropped cylinder 3 and cylinder 1. So next weekend I'm putting all new 6 injectors in and hoping that solves all the issues. I'm thinking because the engine isn't running right, maybe it's effecting the way the Trans is operating. Any jeep people out there know anything? It'd also from Canada originally. So idk if they have additional emissions stuff or different tunes that make it act this way. Other than these few quirks. I love the thing.
@Phaerimms2
@Phaerimms2 16 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention they offer Diesel engines for the JL. I have one. It is awesome!
@adidaskid3773
@adidaskid3773 Ай бұрын
It’s not even a 90s crisler product, a lot of people think it’s a POS because of that. But really is a a AMC product and people often over look that fact. I LOVE MY TJ!!
@BuiltXBuehn
@BuiltXBuehn 28 күн бұрын
Tj was designed wayyyy after the Chrysler take over, the ZJ was the last design AMC worked on. The zj was actually supposed to replace the XJ originally
@jerroldshelton9367
@jerroldshelton9367 23 күн бұрын
People overlook that "fact" because it is fiction. YJ was an AMC product, in terms of design and engineering. Design and engineering of the TJ started after AMC went tango-uniform.
@Tricky2002
@Tricky2002 2 күн бұрын
​@@jerroldshelton9367 That's true. But the TJ still used quite a few AMC parts, especially the earlier models. The 2.5L and 4.0L were both AMC designs (refined by Chrysler), as was the 3-speed 32rh transmission. The coil springs were cribbed from the ZJ, which was the very last AMC designed vehicle. And the doors and door handles are also AMC-designed parts.
@bradlaflamme6127
@bradlaflamme6127 Ай бұрын
I have never had a 4.0 wrangler only the 2.5l 5 speed dog slow. But the 4.0 in the xj, I had 2 of those both lifted with 33's and 90mph was achievable.
@genebond
@genebond 29 күн бұрын
Having had a TJ and now a JK (both rag-tops), I can attest that the new Wranglers are much better on-road. In the TJ, I wouldn't even bother to answer the phone when rolling down the highway, whereas in the JK, I use hands-free without concern.
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound Ай бұрын
When the girlfriend sees this video she might not be a girlfriend for very long if she's smart LOL.
@brentvance3958
@brentvance3958 Ай бұрын
Just bought tires for my 2016 Ford Escape, got open country A/T’s. Had to because of working In Xichigan and Pittsburgh.
@joezephyr
@joezephyr Ай бұрын
Excellent comparison thank you. You could have included the WW2 GP Jeep as well.
@twagn
@twagn Ай бұрын
Had a Cherokee with the 4.0 and I thought it had good power 190hp
@javierlugo259
@javierlugo259 Ай бұрын
You Guys are Awesome!!! You made my day.....Many Thanks.....JEEP BABY!!! Since 1941
@ElevationEveryWeekend
@ElevationEveryWeekend Ай бұрын
I owned a 2000 TJ Sport 4.0L. I drove and wheeled it all over the country in basically stock form. The only thing I ever had fail was the radiator. After I was done with it my mom had it a few years, and then my brother a few years after that. It ended up with about 240k miles on it when he sold it. I owned a 2007 two door JK next, and got 100k miles out of that. The 3.8L and auto was a dog, but never any major issues. I did find the JK to be more comfortable and better off-road with the stock BLD tech they all had. Last was a 2016 two door Willys. The Pentastar and 5spd auto were nice upgrades living at elevation in CO, but after a couple years I traded it in on a 2018 Tacoma TRD off road which fits my needs much better now. If I were to buy another Jeep, I think I would want a TJ (LJ actually) just for some fun.
@seanmartin2382
@seanmartin2382 Ай бұрын
We love our JL and our CJ7 both...just run whatever you have.
@devonlambert9131
@devonlambert9131 Ай бұрын
I have a 2dr JK (manual locks & windows & 6 speed) I'd argue the JK is better than the JL in that the it doesn't have all the fancy auto-start & dual battery setups of the JL gen. It doesn't make as good of a daily (rides rougher, less creature comforts, etc) but I think that having a lot less computer-reliant stuff going on makes it simpler and easier to maintain. 90% of my maintenance has been steering & suspension related (plus mods) and next to none of it has been electrical. Anything electrical that does need upkeep isn't factory. JK is the perfect in between for the TJ & JL gens. Bigger, more modern, better riding than a TJ, but simpler, easier to work on, less electronics than a JL. It's a great compromise really.
@TheHitSquadOffroad
@TheHitSquadOffroad 29 күн бұрын
It would be awesome if you guys would disconnect the front sway bars when wheeling the Jeeps. Especially when comforting to IFS vehicles.
@carrubep
@carrubep 22 күн бұрын
You sure the TJ didn't have a traction aid? At 1:09, the tire that was floating in the air was traveling at the exact speed as the tire on the ground, suggesting likely a lunchbox locker...
@LackeysBeTrippin
@LackeysBeTrippin Ай бұрын
Alex being scared to take the doors off his JL has me concerned about his level of commitment to "Jeep Life". LOL
@unhandleme
@unhandleme 29 күн бұрын
OMG, I wanna peel that film off the TJ’s new radio SO BAD!
@scottythebody0811
@scottythebody0811 Ай бұрын
TJ, all day.
@searlearnold2867
@searlearnold2867 Ай бұрын
Thankfully a 4.7 stroker kit, flowing the head and some low cost bolt on performance parts will put more usable power to the ground in a TJ without breaking the bank and the scales doing a V8 swap.
@dieselqueen
@dieselqueen 23 күн бұрын
You climbed the last one too fast in the JL comparison to how the Alex was driving the TJ, for a guy who says he has very little off roading experience, Alex's driving wasn't bad. Can't take the high bumps too fast my dude. The JL climbs over and crushes cars all the time, but the key is take it slow and easy. 😉❤
@mpl9909
@mpl9909 Ай бұрын
I had a stock 04Rubicon TJ with front and rear air lockers and stock 31s. I thought the Sport had a rear limited slip diff
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 Ай бұрын
I am not surprised the TJ did as well as it did. It’s significantly lighter and it has a bit shorter wheel base along with a bit narrower track so it has a better break over angle and the narrower track width translated into a smaller axle span the suspension had to articulate to climb over the obstacles. Plus its suspension link layout is a little bit different so it’s tucked up out of the way just a bit better than the LJ. If you were to put the two jeeps on an individual wheel scale, the TJ probably has a bit more rear weight bias than the LJ which would have helped with rear traction. Plus with the significantly smaller tire diameter, you needed notably less applied torque to turn the tires and move the jeep up over the obstacles. Many of these things are little details, but taken together, they add up and make a difference. But if I was to go buy a wrangler today, I think my preference would be the new LJ unless affordability dictated the lower expenditure, then the TJ would be just fine. But I would enjoy the LJ in the everyday use much more. You can still find new 2 door wranglers, but you half to look a lot harder.
@carrubep
@carrubep 22 күн бұрын
Don't confuse an LJ (a TJ Unlimited) with the rig shown in this video, which was a JL :)
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 22 күн бұрын
@ my bad. I got the initials turned around. Either way, the earlier wrangler, TJ, has a lot still going for it. And the LJ has even more. But that has come at a cost. Both figuratively and literally. The LJ is bigger, fatter and heavier than the TJ. But you do get a lot more in the way of modern safety gear and electronics. Except for the overly high price, I would choose an LJ 2 door sport over a TJ.
@carrubep
@carrubep 14 күн бұрын
@@americanrambler4972 I think you’re confusing LJ and JL again :) A LJ is a 2004-2006 Jeep TJ Unlimited. Basically a stretched TJ and the precursor to the JKU. That said, you are correct - a modern JL brings a lot to the table in terms of comfort, size, and features, plus some solid suspension geometry that makes it even more capable off-road. The TJ (and LJ) were no slouch but the newer platforms have advantages just like every previous Jeep generation had over their predecessors.
@mattsedgwick3082
@mattsedgwick3082 Ай бұрын
I would like to see you fold the windshield down on the 2024 kinda like do an instructional video
@sailorcowboy
@sailorcowboy 28 күн бұрын
if you aint off-roading in a manual you ant off-roading! 2003 jeep TJ never in the shop except for maintenance! Off-roading and small ranching! Can't beat it!
@GentleGiantFan
@GentleGiantFan Ай бұрын
The JL is a beautiful Jeep, but it will never be a TJ. I've had two TJs and I've had my current JKUR for about 7 years. JMHO, the TJ is the last great Jeep.
@lelandeggleston1041
@lelandeggleston1041 Ай бұрын
I have an LJ and a JL and I prefer the JL for anything near on road and the LJ for anything offroad.
@annienguyen1799
@annienguyen1799 18 күн бұрын
I always wanted a TJ but they are more expensive so i settled on an unmodified 89 jeep cherokee xj
@off-roadingexplained8417
@off-roadingexplained8417 Ай бұрын
BLD is a big deal. I bet a Cherokee Trailhawk with just a 2-in lift , will beat an old TJ in stock form in many scenarios. Basically everything except for approach angle.
@dufferdude1205
@dufferdude1205 Ай бұрын
I guess I’m old but I much prefer a lot of the older models over the new. Cheaper, more reliable less electronics to go bad and easy to work on. On the negative, smaller more basic interior and less fuel economy. A question for ya. Do you really think that a modern car will reliably go over 300k 500k miles. I pushed a Chevy and a Toyota to that and beat the crap out of them.
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si 22 күн бұрын
why have so little people put XJ wheels on TJs?? they look awesome and fit just fine
@DH-bl7gj
@DH-bl7gj Ай бұрын
You took the JL at an angle on the last ledge but not the TJ this the slippage
@scrapperguy1986
@scrapperguy1986 Ай бұрын
Always wanted to fold down the window on my tj just never did done it on my jl
@HeliRy
@HeliRy Ай бұрын
Would be fun to compare a stock CJ7 to the newer Wrangler.
@BerniesBastelBude
@BerniesBastelBude Ай бұрын
I prefer the TJ's small size - what is quite convenirnt when you have a small garage or try to find a parking slot in the city
@bugman687
@bugman687 Ай бұрын
Test old bronco vs scout vs old jeep
@jerroldshelton9367
@jerroldshelton9367 23 күн бұрын
"Test old bronco vs. scout. vs. old jeep" What for? I had a '73 Bronco with every "off road option" Ford offered at the time, including front and rear limited slip differentials. I have a '49 CJ-2A in my garage right now. My Bronco was on stock suspension. Dealer cut the front and rear fenders and installed 10-15 Gates Commandos on Jackman white-spoke wheels. It was 302 V8 / automatic / power steering. My CJ 2A is stock ride height on OEM spec 16 x 6:00 NDT tires. Stock open diffs. Upgraded 11" drum brakes. Granny low four-speed. Aftermarket roll-over protection bar and recovery hooks. KYB shocks. The Bronco basically did what the CJ-2A does on trails, but it let you carry more people plus stuff while doing it and you could drive it from your house in the city to the trailhead on highways. As a pure trail machine for two people, my personal opinion is that the CJ-2A is the better twixt the twain, which is reflected by what's in my garage. For all of the hype surrounding them, the original Bronco wasn't without faults and my inner SAE Member says it was under-engineered and under-developed in a lot of ways. I don't miss mine. Mine is an unpopular opinion, but if I still had kids at home, and needed more cabin space for people and gear, and was offered a choice between a brand new '73 Bronco like the one I had, or a brand new fully-off-pavement optioned 1986 Bronco II, I'd take the Bronco II over the original, hands down, all day, every day. A Bronco II isn't just better on the street. It is better everywhere else, too. Stock for stock, a Bronco II has more front suspension travel, superior droop compliance, and the front and rear suspension works better together at keeping the body level while soaking up the terrain. A Bronco II has substantially more useful interior space than on original Bronco does. It is fractionally narrower, which is a plus, and has a tighter turning radius. Detractors complain about the "weenie" drive train with a D-28 TTB up front and Ford 7.5" rear, but the upside to that is that you get the same running ground clearance out of a Bronco II on 29" tires (235 /75 15) as you get from an original Bronco on 31" rubber. You also get a vehicle that will actually stop when you apply the brakes, one that you can easily get into and out of four wheel drive, a lower first gear in the automatic transmission, a lower low range in the transfer case, and 300 to 500 fewer pounds of trail-hugging lard. You get better highway MPG by far at 21 mpg v. 14 to 16 for a V8 original Bronco and you get much better range off-pavement, too. If there was ever a grossly under-rated trail machine in the history of off-pavement driving, the Bronco II with EFI is it. I am a massive Bronco II fan-boi, not because I ever owned one, but because I drove plenty of them owned by relatives on trails, including some supposedly tough ones like the 3N10 John Bull in Southern California's San Bernardino National Forest. Bone stock, too, with the exception of 235 /75 15 or 30 x 9.50 rubber on stock wheels. While I am pissing off the original Bronco faithful, I'll say that a 2DR XJ Cherokee makes for a better "Bronco" in absolutely every respect than the original Bronco did." I had one of those, too, and miss it every single day. I don't miss my original Bronco. At all. And that's not down to how they perform on the street. It's how they work on trails. Having grown up with Broncos and owning one, and having had experience wheeling WWII Jeeps owned by relatives, depending on how "old" the Jeep is, I'd say the Bronco is better on the trail than a Willys MB or Ford GPW is, but if we still to CJ's, the proof of what I think is better twixt the twain on the trail is in the '49 CJ 2-A in my garage.
@jonathanlandon6076
@jonathanlandon6076 Ай бұрын
You could even get an od auto for the last 3 years of production or maybe 4...i can't remember if it was 03 or 04 the 42re became available instead of the old 3 speed Chrysler auto. The best years are the last few years before the junk 6 speed manual replaced tge nv 3500 which is likely still the strongest manual used in the wrangler. Definitely better than the ax15 that was light years ahead of the Peugeot transmission.
@jimharvard
@jimharvard 5 күн бұрын
maybe i missed the part where you actually TESTED these two jeeps? it took TWENTY MINUTES before you drove these jeeps over anything and then you drove over a big low rock and got all entertained. wow. you guys are REAL "hard core" off-roaders.
@davidj.9432
@davidj.9432 Ай бұрын
I owned a '01 TJ and a '04 LJ. They are awesome "fun" cars. I do not know how anyone daily drives these things, though. Terrible gas mileage and a very rough ride.
@Qbynordi
@Qbynordi Ай бұрын
The LJ Rubicon is the best Wrangler ever made.
@DavidBanham-s3m
@DavidBanham-s3m Ай бұрын
I’m not sure where they get their information from but I’ve been looking for jeeps (I found one) and the only ones I found under 10 k were in the junk yards or the parting out want ads.
@Wrangzilla
@Wrangzilla Ай бұрын
As an owner of 3 TJ’s in the past, a YJ, 2 JK’s, and now a JLUR, I can easily say the TJ’s can’t touch the capabilities of a newer Jeep. I’m going to get another TJ, so I love them, but it can’t hang with the newer Jeeps… and yes. The 3.6 is leap years better than the 4.0.
@IndefiniteGentlemen
@IndefiniteGentlemen Ай бұрын
I can't make a great argument against any of these opinions in particular, but if the 4.0 had more power and was cleaner, then it would easily be the GOAT. I really like my late model JK; its reliable, comfortable, and has enough power.
@jeepinwithjulia
@jeepinwithjulia Ай бұрын
I am in the market for a TJ. I have a 2015 JKU that I love, but want to 2 door TJ to add to the herd.
@RonaldHall-k7s
@RonaldHall-k7s 21 күн бұрын
I have a real nice 2004 tj for sale,one of the cleanest I've seen ,winch,lift,leather interior,tons of extras,roof rack,trail lights,custom graphics,ect
@davidmilhouscarter8198
@davidmilhouscarter8198 Ай бұрын
TJ original MSRP ≈$20,000 and compensated for inflation ≈$36,000 in 2024 money.
@lawdog516
@lawdog516 Ай бұрын
Good job guys
@davidmcmillan1477
@davidmcmillan1477 28 күн бұрын
But if you put 10K into a 7K TJ, the off road capabilities better than a new one for 35K! You can even add tech.
@dealy9268
@dealy9268 Ай бұрын
Always disconect the swaybar links!
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