Old vs new, Mora classic knives. April 2021.

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Kuukkeli Bushcraft

Kuukkeli Bushcraft

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@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 9 ай бұрын
With my Mora classic with the old sheath I got my hair dryer and cut a piece of 1/8" wood the width of the belt loop length.and formed the belt loop to accommodate a belt better. Also, I cut a vertical slit at the top of the sheath which introduced some springiness that improved retention.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 9 ай бұрын
Probably the most customized knives ever🤣. Great work on the sheath.To be honest,I love these knives but there is plenty of room for improvement on the sheaths. Thank you very much for watching the video.
@Takhor86
@Takhor86 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of mora knifes. Have them in all of my vehicles and kits. Great video.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
It is great that they cost so little. It means you can have a decent knife everywhere that you might possibly want a knife. They also do have some more expensive ones to give you even more options and a bit of a range of functions. Absolutely fantastic company in my book. Thank you for watching mate and for taking the time to leave a comment.
@Takhor86
@Takhor86 Жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft As I’ve mentioned I have several. Modern as well as the older ones. In my shop I use both the #1 and #0 and in my cars I keep modern versions with rubberized plastic grips. This Christmas both of my sons got old Swedish surplus Carl Anderson made moras I bough of an auction site. My interest in moras lies not in collecting them, but as very functional work knives.
@hackneeey
@hackneeey 3 жыл бұрын
Realistically the old classics were underpriced for years -Greencraft has a video where he said he bought one for £12 in the early nineties. Springfields have a new one for £24 so it’s not too bad -instead of a gradual increase over thirty years they’ve done it at once!
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
You do get some improvements for the price increase too. Still great value for money as Mora always have been. Thanks for watching buddy.
@beardedbamabushcrafter9120
@beardedbamabushcrafter9120 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Mora knives also. I wear my Mora Classic around my neck, great little knife for the odd jobs around camp and on the trail. I didn't realize they had gone up in price. I have five different style Mora's in my collection. Thanks for sharing the info Tim, take care.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the prices in the USA. Probably the increase won't be so much more as a lot of the price is probably due to shipping. You guys think they are cheap😂. The Mora basic is about 5 dollars here. You do also get some improvements for the extra money. I love the handle shape on the classics. Nothing to get in the way. Great little knife for carving. Thanks for watching Hop you have a fantastic week.
@beardedbamabushcrafter9120
@beardedbamabushcrafter9120 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are very good knives. Mora has been my go to knife for a few years. My oldest one is a Mora Classic and I've had it close to 15 years, it cost 15-20 dollars. My newest one is the Garberg with the carbon steal blade, definitely a great knife! I purchased the Garberg in 2019.
@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman
@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe the new prices! My old classic number one is one of my very favorite knives. They're just the perfect little carving knife.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Still a pretty good deal at the price. Mind you I know they are cheaper hear. They are really handy for woodcarving. Perfect handle shape and easy to sharpen.
@scottpercer6263
@scottpercer6263 Жыл бұрын
Love my Moras and great video by the way . They used to be $12 to $14 and would buy them wherever I came across them . I tend to gift them away and the recipients always come back at some point and tell me what a great little knife to have around ... a fact I already knew !
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Yes they are awesome aren't they. Lots of them second hand here for just a couple of dollars. Bit of sharpening and you got yourself a great knife. Thanks for watching mate.
@bravofoxtrotllc6817
@bravofoxtrotllc6817 2 жыл бұрын
My old Mora 2 about 17 years old is my neck knife in the mountains, my son just bought a new one for himself and its got that new sheath. The biggest thing I noticed was the new Mora 2 has a full tang, whereas mine is only half way in the handle.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
All of the old ones had a full rat tail going through the handle. I can't remember when they stopped doing that but I would guess not long before you got yours. To my mind the classic is not the kind of knife you would be using for harsh rough tasks anyway so not something that needs any more than a partial tang. It is nice to be able to see the end of the tang though and to know that it's not just a quarter tang. Jönsson were still making through tang Moras until the factory burnt down about 2 years ago. They also had the leather belt loop. Looks like Morakniv are trying to make their classics more classic again. Thank you very much for watching and I hope you have a fantastic weekend.
@enzoswoodshop1052
@enzoswoodshop1052 Жыл бұрын
Nice Mora, I love that style for woodworking. My EDC is pretty similar. I carry an L.T. Wright Boattail.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Nice EDC, and yes it is pretty similar. I know wich one I would rather carry as an EDC though, and it's not made in Sweden Thanks for watching mate.
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman 3 жыл бұрын
I do not own a Mora but I've always wanted this one.. and the Elderis and the Garberg.. and a few moras you have also😆✌💚
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Buy them all mate 😂 they are all pretty cheap. Thanks for watching.
@Mikes_Life
@Mikes_Life 3 жыл бұрын
I like the 1/0 but I don’t think I can justify the extra money. The low price is why I like the mora , my favorite model is the 510 and it’s 16 dollars. Thanks for sharing these with us Tim.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 16 dollars, they are a third of that here😂. Being only a few miles from Sweden obviously makes a big difference to the prices. I really struggle to comprehend how they make such good functional knives for the price. Thank you very much watching. Hope you have a great week.
@Mikes_Life
@Mikes_Life 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft oh I’m so jealous lol I’m moving in with you haha. Thanks man you too !
@Oozy9Millimeetah
@Oozy9Millimeetah 2 жыл бұрын
I like that they made the classics little bit higher quality. The really old classics where still much nicer, always had the "full-stick tang" and thicker spine on the blade. These really are more of an workers knives than for bushcraft. One of my relatives carried an classic for probably 30 years it was sharpened so much that it looked like an toothpick 😆..
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
I have a tonne of old Classics, they are so common here in Finland and can be bought so cheaply. Most of them require some work, that I will get round to at some point. I think Morakniv have realised that people don't really see their classes as just a cheap work knife anymore and are prepared to pay a little more for a higher quality product. The plastic handles are cheaper and robust and probably a better option if you are on a building site. The Classics are in my opinion just nicer to use and to own and very well suited to carving a spoon next to a campfire. It would be kind of nice if they still had the cheaper ones as an option though. They do actually still have them in stock in my local hardware shop. The classic certainly was at one point the equivalent of the modern Mora basic. Intended to be used around the farm or on the building site. Thank you for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment.
@The_names_irrelevant
@The_names_irrelevant 2 жыл бұрын
Well on the bright side we still have things like the mora basic that are fairly inexpensive
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Moras are in general very cheap and the 511 basic in particular. These new classics aren't so expensive either. But it is a big increase in price. Thanks for watching my freind.
@solitudeinthewild82
@solitudeinthewild82 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tim! Great job there!
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Yuriy. Glad you liked the video.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 2 жыл бұрын
NIce video. I have a bunch of old Moras lying around, from different manufacturers but I wanted this new one to see if the carbon blade would feel mora like the moras of my childhood than the laminated ones … never liked the stainless ones as much, so I’ve not kept any of them around. The crappy sheath helps weed out the surplus over time …
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching buddy. Did you get the new one yet? If so how does it compare to the ones from many years ago? I have a few older ones knocking around too. Nice knives and I definitely prefer the newer ones to the more recent ones. Don't prefer the price though, big increase.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 2 жыл бұрын
​@@KuukkeliBushcraft Hey man, tried to answer a few days ago but Ipad was acting up and somehow not posting what I wrote. No - I am working round the clock right now, so I only got to slice the receipt xD But it seems different from some of the laminated ones. I never liked the stainless versions. I agree - moras should not be considered specialty items, they’re cheap good tools you don’t mind loosing to the crappy sheath xD We’ll se how it goes. I also ordered a Jaakaripuukko just because I want to see how i feel about a slightly bigger and slightly more sturdy knife which is still in the style. But normally I go with a smaller mora and a small parang machete …
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@whynottalklikeapirat the Jääkäri is a really good knife (with a good sheath) I really like Moras though. Its what I generally use at work (511 basic normally. I like the classics for wood carving. I generally go for the carbon ones. I don't care about the sheath retention on the classics as they generally live in a tool bag rather than on my belt. Big tenancy of bending the belt clips on the basics. I have rivited them shut in the past. The only laminated mora that I have used much I found much more difficult to sharpen than the carbon steel ones. Thank you very much for your reply buddy.
@papuchu
@papuchu Жыл бұрын
I love my old classic #2, never bought #1 cause of my rather big hands, i also sand out most of the red handle stain and color the wood with a mix of cúrcuma powder and olive oil.Very nice and capable knives, so comfort i can work wood for hours with It no hot spots, no tiring. 😊
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
The shape of the handle though, it's just so simple and it couldn't be more comfortable. I have sanded down the handles too in the past, just used linneseed oil hough. Thanks for watching mate.
@StevanOutdoor
@StevanOutdoor 3 жыл бұрын
My first Mora is 45+ years old and had the painted red handle but the rat tail tang all the way to the end. This handle does look nicer but the sheath still sucks when it comes to retention. So add a replacement sheath to the price and you have many much stronger options. I have one with a much shorter blade and the tang through the end but the same size crappy sheath.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the sheaths are crap. I don't carry them on my belt, they live in backpacks and tool boxes. I have neck lanyards on some of them. Use them for little carving projects (spoons ect). When not in use they go back in the backpack. Don't like having things around my neck too much (expecially things that fall out of the sheath).
@StevanOutdoor
@StevanOutdoor 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft Agree! 100%. If the option is to improve the knife first improve the sheath. I don't even trust them inside my backpack.
@WaltRevenJr
@WaltRevenJr 3 жыл бұрын
I'm probly gonna catch hell for this but Im not a big fan of their stuff unless its something I really like, they are great knives just not for me most times but man that newer round wooden handle one is one I want and can never find lol. I have seen a few with a nifty leather sheath as a neck knife, thats the exact one! Anywho, great video and collection mate. Hope you're well Tim, have a wonderful weekend mate. Oh and I think Lisa got a lil upset cause not enough Unni lmao!!!
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Unni tried hard to be in that video 😂. I guess a lot of personal preferences come down to what you are used to using. I have used Moras day in day out for many years. Still don't like the sheaths very much though. Thanks for watching Walt. Hope you had a great weekend.
@WaltRevenJr
@WaltRevenJr 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft Thats ok mate we enjoyed the other video on FB lol!!! And exactly what you said man, its all down to personal preference ya know! Like me I love cold steels products, why I dont know I just like them a lot. Had a great weekend man, hope you did too Tim...You're welcome
@DaryooshF.Sh.P-vq6mu
@DaryooshF.Sh.P-vq6mu 11 ай бұрын
I love Mora knives in general. Specially Kansbol, Companion Spark, Clipper, and Classics. And I have three wishes. Wish they produce all knives with Carbon blades, wish classic ones to have leather sheaths. And wish they produce Kansbol in full flat grind too.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 11 ай бұрын
A full flat grind Mora would be fantastic. My main wish would be that the Classics and the new full tang knives weren't so expensive. A mora folder might also be quite an interesting idea for many people I think. At least in places where it is not so easy to carry a fixed blade every day. They certainly make great knives and some of them the best value for money you will find anywhere. Thanks for watching my friend. Have a very happy Christmas and a joyful new year.
@papuchu
@papuchu Жыл бұрын
finally i bought a new classic 1/0 (34 euros? it's a tiny little knife but still comfort to handle and work with it, now i EDC it on my neck and i'm using it for carving and cooking... really nice and light blade i like it very much, besides my favourite bushcraft blade still the old classic #2
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Really a fantastic neck knife, personally I don't like to carry knives around my neck all day, just while in use. The handle shape of mora classics is just perfect. I do knife making classes for the guides at the husky farm. I like to show them a Mora classic and tell them that is the shape to aim for only with a fat pommel. Thanks for watching buddy. Have a fantastic weekend.
@chrisgibson2328
@chrisgibson2328 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate... Good vid. Are the blades the same shape ? I've got the new one. Don't remember the price. It's a nice handle shape, pretty grippy; I like that it is wood and very sharp. I have paid almost £300 for a fallkniven and as much as I admire it I still enjoy cheaper knives like the Sissipuuko. I am not too sure about the bushcrafters obsession about battoning with knives though, unless they are full tang and substantial. I use an axe for stuff like that.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
The blade shape is still the same. Mora classics certainly aren't built for battoning. Great little carving knives though. Great handles and easy to sharpen. Thanks for watching Chris.
@kgilliagorilla2761
@kgilliagorilla2761 Жыл бұрын
Trying not to buy another Mora....... not going to well. Thanks for the help!
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
At least I am saving both of us money by not doing videos of Bark River knives or something els expensive 😂. Thanks for watching the video and enjoy your new Morakniv when it arrives.
@kgilliagorilla2761
@kgilliagorilla2761 Жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I have a perfectly serviceable 510 with the red/orange plastic handle. I was loving the #1 Classic. Guess I’ll buy one before you can’t get them. Cheers from Chicagoland
@kgilliagorilla2761
@kgilliagorilla2761 Жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft My new Mora #1 came in the mail today. It’s a sweetheart!
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
@@kgilliagorilla2761 awesome, good buy.
@nnnnnie
@nnnnnie Жыл бұрын
I bought a No. 1 in July 2018 for $12 US on Amazon. The new 1/0 is currently $22 US on Amazon.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Yes there is a very big price difference. They know what they are doing, people will pay more for a classic Mora and if they want a cheap knife then they will buy a plastic one anyway. The question is, for us is it worth paying the extra money? Thank you very much for watching Richard and have a very happy new year.
@Embrabrummie
@Embrabrummie 3 жыл бұрын
It does seem that you are getting a more refined product for your extra money. Rather than shelling out 35 Euros for the new version, I think that I would go for something like the "Heavy Duty" model, and put the difference towards buying a decent sheath.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Or about 6 Mora basics😂. Definitely more affordable alternatives when you put the prices up. Still a great carving knife for not very much money though. Thanks for watching buddy.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 2 жыл бұрын
My man likes Murder Classics and Cava Knives 👍
@ThePreparedNorseman
@ThePreparedNorseman 3 жыл бұрын
I keep poking my index finger on the little bit of edge that sticks out by the slick handle, and the old sheats are completely worthless. I have some, but don’t carry them to the woods. More of a garden knife for me.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the sheaths are crap as on most Moras. The handle is less slick now. I often keep one in my backpack. Often with a lanyard to go round my neck. When I have finished what I am doing it goes straight back into the backpack. Not a big fan of having things around my neck (expecially things that tend to fall out of the sheath). I like them for carving spoons and things. Handle shape is good, blade and price both good. Strength (battoning) and sheath make them a pretty poor choice for a general camp knife in my opinion. Thanks for watching mate.
@bobbieschke599
@bobbieschke599 3 жыл бұрын
Tim , stopped wearing knives on my belt 20 yrs. ago ! All puukko, Mora types go around my neck, bigger are carried on my pack ! Have not seen much of a price change in the States . Have you received the package ?
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
I do wear knives around my neck sometimes. But not for very long, not a big fan of having things around my neck. Package on its way still. Was in customs for a while. Took a while though customs. Hopefully be here in the next couple of days.
@ccrawford6708
@ccrawford6708 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just came across your channel. I've got the 2/0 and it has the full rat tail tang, too. It's the only one from the previous version (I think) to have it. It's also 2.5mm thick vs 2mm for the new 1/0. It's my EDC and I wear it around my neck Yesterday I received a BPS BS1FTS @ $20 knife to wear on my belt. I didn't think the classic sheath would work well enough with my belts, and the BPS has a nice supple leather one. It's 3.6", full tang and is shaped a bit like a butter knife. Unfortunately it weighs twice as much as my classic, though it's not going around my neck
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
The BPS , like Mora make fantastic value for money knives. You really don't have to fork out a lot of money to get a quality tool. That is by the way going off what everyone else says with the BPS as I have never owned one. I am pretty certain that you are right that the 2/0 is the only one of the previous classics with a through tang.. I really like the size of the 2/0 . Particularly for spoon carving and other delicate tasks. Really good to have something more substantial at hand too though. Thank you for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. Always great to hear from the viewers.
@wildedibles819
@wildedibles819 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@wildedibles819
@wildedibles819 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft your welcome much love xoxox
@wis1024
@wis1024 2 жыл бұрын
It's a small detail buy I don't like how they increased the belly, rounding the point. I prefer a pointer tip on my knives.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I hadn't even noticed that, but looking at the thumbnail I see what you mean. I was comparing knives of 2 different sizes though wich makes such things harder to notice. Thank you for pointing that out.
@tomt5745
@tomt5745 2 жыл бұрын
Try the 120 Carbon with the birch hamdle. A pointy friend. Take care to not cut yer finger :)
@wilremenki3948
@wilremenki3948 3 жыл бұрын
You did a good job.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much my friend.
@neemancallender9092
@neemancallender9092 3 жыл бұрын
bloody cheek to increase the cost so much
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
It is a pretty big increase for not all that much improvement. I was also comparing prices from 2 different places. Not sure what the price of the old ones was on the Internet. No mora classics on sale in the local shop anymore. Don't think many people here will pay that much for a Mora. It's a shame the Mora Jönsson factory burnt down. They would still be making cheap classics. This would have been great for their business.
@neemancallender9092
@neemancallender9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I got a few Josson knives before all the stock went
@jeremywang9148
@jeremywang9148 3 жыл бұрын
If you know the steel price gone up how much
@J.sh_CDN
@J.sh_CDN Жыл бұрын
Bit of an Old video, but twice the price for a barely improved sheath and stain instead of paint.... totally not worth it to me. Now if they came with a proper sheath, all leather, or even more substantial like the mora all-round, or the kansbol, then maybe id agree that they are worth more. Personally i think its all marketing on moras end, trying to make more money and raise prices. You see it in their new ash series, even in the garberg, and the Kansbol and bushcraft series (quite a price increase over the old Mora 2000 for basically a slightly different handle) Personally, i cant support that kind of business model, so ill be avoiding these new products. Glad their work knives are still cheap though, ill continue with those, as well as branching out to try several other brands other than mora. To put it in perspective, Mora offered a classic Anniversary knife not to long ago. They upgraded the steel to 14c28n and had a lovely unpainted wood handle, as well as a nice leather sheath, for basically the same price as these new Mora Classics. Still kicking myself for not grabbing that anniversary model
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
They are definitely cashing in on their popularity. From their pont of view of course it makes perfect sense. The main point of a business is to make money. From our point of view, well I think there are plenty of small Finnish manufacturers making very good quality knives for extremely good prices. Buying those helps small businesses and there is also a lot more competition wich will also help to keep the prices low. We don't have that anymore in Mora seeing as now there is only one company making knives in Mora instead of 3 like there was 15 years or so ago.
@bushcraftjoe1
@bushcraftjoe1 3 жыл бұрын
Its good and bad. Better knife but cost went up.
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be good to have both options. The old ones made for great projects for a bit of customisation.
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