Old vs New Off-Road: Land Rover Defender vs Discovery 2 vs Range Rover Classic vs 2018 Discovery

[@Nonamenever557]

Disco 2 was the last old school land rover, except for the defender. It combines luxury (depending on spec) with solid front and rear axles, body on frame suspension, best combination ever.

[@haihoegaatet6963]

dn bn yeah but the styling stopped with the disovery 4 i mean have you seen the new one

[@Nonamenever557]

Boudewijn Witvers Discovery 5 is the first discovery where the designers got there first, engineers after. I wish LR would remember you can’t beat a box shape for practically!

[@kjsinsaino]

i still drive a disco2! i have had four of them! the 2004 i have now is the nicest one i have had yet. i have given a lot of love to the motor so she should be good for another 100k!

[@haihoegaatet6963]

My dad has a disco 1 se but the v8 has coolant leaking problem but our 1983 range rover v8 has no rust no problems so it's all fine

[@kjsinsaino]

i had to replace all the hoses and clamps, radiator and put new gasket on the throttle body heater. now she doesn't drip. love the 80's range rovers!

[@rsoul7282]

This video is incredible, how you guys managed to use all those camera angles and yet not get a single shot of the waiting tow truck or any gushing torrents of oil from these things, I am speechless. 👏

[@Ottofalcon]

I love how the Discovery Series II from Land Rover Heritage has a sagging headliner 😂

[@barje.waffles5461]

Otoniel Falcon. It would not be authentic without it. As a Discover owner I feel it adds to the charm....

[@carlgeorgtsigakis498]

Yeah even without a sunroof.. ;)

[@timb4655]

Its a feature not a fault as we D2 owners like to say ! Keeping it real with a 15 yr old vehicle. Mind you we all jealous of how rust free that chassis frame must be !

[@shanekoshie7381]

I’ve never seen a disco 2 without a sagging headliner 😂

[@adamdixon2251]

Shane Koshie factory

[@FOURWHEELTRENDS]

Best line of the video at the 5:30 Mark. Yep, the Grand Wagoneer had all the creature comforts and could still get muddy. Love the show guys! Keep the vids coming. And YES, I am wildly biased towards the Grand Wagoneer. lol

[@ss442es]

Thanks for the ride guys, nice informative demo!

[@TexasJon1]

Nice video. Big bonus - you got to do the drive with Bob Burns. He is a HUGE figure in the Land Rover world! Also, a really great guy.

[@cmvash]

Went to the overland expo but missed you guys. Saw modern day land rovers run this course with the ease of running through a school lane. Very cool, thanks for sharing.

[@ryanmartinage]

Land Rover should try releasing a real offroad SUV again. Tired of all the luxury crap with "heritage". Bring to the US a real capable Defender. Jeep seems to be doing pretty well with making solid axle vehicles..

[@angelgjr1999]

Ryan Martinage SUVs dont exist anymore. They are girly CUVs.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Ryan Martinage even the new G don’t have dual solid axles (it could change) so welcome to 2018

[@robthurlow1347]

Wrong land rover should release a real utility vehicle again that's what the defender and series were. Not this suv crap.

[@ryanmartinage]

Mr. Cairo you're a cruel man 😔

[@Misiekgren]

Mr. Cairo you peeps get all the wicked vehicles.. I'd love a Toyota land cruisers Rohny Dahl has...

[@Offshore1977]

Best off road channel on KZbin. Period. That invisible technology he talks about will be a very pricey headache for replacement in the future.

[@kwameguada3421]

This was so calm and enjoyable! Loved this review and its informative content

[@timb4655]

Nice comparison and nice calm vibe. Both you and the LR guy did a great job of presenting that. Thanks

[@PaulKirtley]

Interesting comparison. Thanks. I have both a TD5 Defender 110 and a Discovery 3. It's interesting to see how the vehicles have evolved. Personally, if I was changing up from my Discovery 3, I'd go for a second-hand Discovery 4 rather than a Discovery 5 but then I do regularly use my vehicles off road as part of my work.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Supposedly north america will get the new Defender. I am excited.

[@300bhpton]

Good video. Only blooper is the 1948 comment. Drivetrain/suspension technology only went back to 1970 for the Range Rover launch. Series 1 thru 3 models (1948-1984) used leaf suspension with a part time transfer box. And actually share very little with the Defender.

[@trailrunnah8886]

Great video! The thing that sticks out most to me about this video is that (and I already know this from experience) that no matter what the vehicle, open diffs are garbage. In stock form, yes, the new one is quite capable. However, once you get into really rugged terrain, or modifying the vehicle, and it just won't cut it. While the new one had the better traction control, notice that it lifted tires WAY higher than the solid axle ones. Being able to keep the wheels on the ground is a huge plus, and combine that with locking differentials and you get the much better offroad setup. Of all of those, I think the D90 is the coolest, however I love the look of the early Rangie. For function and the way I use a vehicle, I'd probably most want to own the D2.

[@anthonyc1883]

Nice video! Land Rover rep is a knowledgeable and nice guy.

[@jayabbey5141]

Thank you so look much for doing a special on Land Rover. Nothing against jeeps, but Land Rover will always be the best 4x4xfar...

[@T4nkcommander]

If you've never driven anything else I guess

[@Leatherneck09]

Someone who actually knows what they are talking about👍

[@Leatherneck09]

@@T4nkcommander there is an old saying, it is better to be quiet and let people think you are ignorant then open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[@ruben_glz-fr8sb]

Land rovers and Range Rovers are my passion

[@geoffk777]

Truly amazing video. It's not often that you see Land Rovers and Range Rovers running for so long without a breakdown.

[@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh]

Old unfunny joke

[@geoffk777]

@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh Maybe, but if you buy one of these lemons, than the joke's on you.

[@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh]

@@geoffk777 I have a reliable disco 2. Not every land rover is unreliable like you seem to believe.

[@geoffk777]

@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh Not every cigarette smoker gets lung cancer. Not every cute little Lion Cub becomes a dangerous adult pet. But people see these as risky for good reasons. As someone said "The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong...but that's the way to bet."

[@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh]

@@geoffk777Let's not forget your here on a channel about land rovers. land rovers have character. Something very few 4x4s have. I'd take a stereotyped unreliable car over a boring stereotypical "reliable" car. Most of the time it comes down to how you treat the vehicle and who owned it previously. Land rovers can go anywhere any time. And if that means some people might have to fix it here and there then so be it. It's worth it. It's also very simple to fix that's a big part of why farmers liked them so much. You may consider me lucky to have a reliable land rover. But I think it's not as uncommon as you seem to think it is. The land rover is a famous vehicle for a reason mate. Not to mention it baffles me how people still slam the old stereotype on the new models of land rover. Same goes for cars. A corolla may be reliable but it's boring and set the benchmark of downgrading vehicles to be boring. Cars these days try to follow the same boring format now. Cars with character are dying out because people like practicality and boring ness 😂. SUVs are way to popular. Cars may be more reliable these days but when they break down the price and skill needed to fix then is higher. Like cvt engines and the electrical work and computers are harder and cost more to fix. Fun factor is slowly dying down in cars.

[@AlexLR]

Defenders stole my heart years ago. I’ve had discovery’s and range rovers which I liked, but I LOVE my Defender.

[@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh]

I have a disco 2 and love it. I would love the opportunity to own a defender or a series 1,2 or 3

[@marcguzman7644]

The best episode by far!!!

[@arturmirzoyan4744]

Excellent video. Thanks. Can really see the advantages of the TC clearly.

[@EricLS]

That 03' headliner is showing legendary reliability

[@Shadow_Wolf_190]

I wish we had the Defender

[@RockmanDash]

Wolfghost729 it’s coming back in some form right now England doesn’t even have a Defender

[@steeltube195]

What for ? for a prank o something ?

[@cosmindiaconescu2960]

The defender is coming back next year !!!

[@abdiaidid3364]

Where are the LR3 & LRR?

[@steeltube195]

Stuck somewhere ... probably ...

[@bobwampler3387]

That was a great, informative, fun video!

[@andrewwhite8983]

It's hard to tell whether the Electronics actually contribute to the off road cars because they make them more likely 2 malfunction overtime!

[@ruben_glz-fr8sb]

OMG defender is my number 1 dream truck

[@RockmanDash]

Great video Land Rover are the best4x4xfar!

[@shakespeare_hall4788]

Obviously you have never heard of International Scout !

[@RockmanDash]

Bradley Goodchild yeah that’s why they’re still around huh?

[@shakespeare_hall4788]

sam brooks Well I've got one! and if you know anything at all you will know they were the first 4X4 designed for the domestic market and the bench mark for all future witch is why ford copied the scout for their Bronco and Jeep and need I go on ! ! after their first release they were unbeatable and the first line honours in the Baja 1000 !! 4X4 ! To add to this they are still hard to keep up with TODAY ! there are not many other makes that can keep up with my Scout and I get so tired of rescuing other would be if they could be's ! everyone I know who has a Land Rover they complain about their reliability and the fact they have to carry a box of spare axles because everytime they go off road they break one ! ...actually the Toyota land cruiser is a much more capable and better vehicle all round !

[@RockmanDash]

Bradley Goodchild I own and have owned lots of Land Rover and Range Rover and they no less or no more reliable than the jeeps, hummer and Isuzus, you just seem really bitter that people drive other 4x4s and like them better than your scout I like scouts but I’ll take a Defender or jeep over a scout or land cruiser all day long.

[@shakespeare_hall4788]

sam brooks congratulations no I am not bitter at all people can drive whatever they like I don't care Different Strokes for different folks ! have a nice day 🐴

[@BrewBlaster]

"I don't jump on camera" Too funny!!

[@marshpit11]

Love the typical sagging headliner in the Series II. The start of dependability issues with LR.

[@andrewseamaster]

Love the 'British' head liner in the disco, makes me proud. Every car made here does love the saggy roof look!

[@mr.bluegrass9723]

Great video. Very impressive. Thanks

[@dunbar837]

One of my favourite episodes ever big fan of the older stuff personally I am looking for a series 2a or 3 to build with a om 606 merc engine. But I just drove an autobiography tdv8 range rover and it can light up all 4 wheels on dry tarmac I think it had 365hp and very smooth and comfortable. Great engineering

[@rob.halpin]

Great vid. And great commentary by copilot. Interesting stuff. Thanks

[@BlackPenquinn]

I’ve owned 6 Land Rover/Range Rover products over the years. Zero reliability issues. I also had a two door Jeep Rubicon, also zero issues. The Jeep and the Disco are both amazing vehicles, but they are not in anyway competitors. Vastly different experiences and purchased for different needs. I’m currently driving a new Discovery. I wasn’t sold on the looks etc when I got it. For my needs (mtb, family of 5) it works perfectly. The car has fantastic utility. The factory wheels and tires are useless. The JK Rubicon was also amazing. This by far would be the one I would do any real off roading.

[@mugabevicent6107]

Ooooh great about my dream car looking forward to purchase one .

[@michaelpettit1263]

Thank you for the nice, relaxing pace of the video. Did they say why on earth they don't make wheels that will take tires with cut resistant sidewalls? My Range Rovers have gone all over, including over Red Cone in Colorado. I tear up the sidewalls every time. I have to change tires on the trail, and then I buy 4 new ones when I get done. It is maddening that I can't get a steel wheel with AT or snow tires for when conditions call for them.

[@rralex7622]

Michael Pettit Choose the tires appropriately. What do you usually run?

[@michaelpettit1263]

RRAlex on my new 2016 RR diesel it uses 255/55R20 Goodyear tires. The 275/55R20 tires are only 2 cm wider, but the stock rim offset has the existing tire within 1 cm of the strut. There appears to be a different 20 rim for the new discovery that has a different offset. There also appears to be a custom sized Duratrac that Goodyear provided to LR for the Dragon Gate challenge. All of this, though, is completely unsupported. Call the dealer or TireRack and they will have no idea.

[@rralex7622]

Stock tires are horrible. I believe you can get Goodyear MTs for the 255.

[@Russh1]

Michael Pettit I wouldn't be worried about clearance on the strut, 5mm is plenty. Remembering it will never get any closer, flat or not, I've got 5mm clearance on 285 6018s and never had a problem.

[@OverlandTT]

I'd like to see a further comparison of the various generations of the Discovery (LR), circa 1995, a 2000, 2004, 2010 LR3 and LR4 as well as the latest Discovery and Discovery sport.

[@russquicksilver]

Brilliant video

[@HOWNDOG66]

Technology is cool what it can make up for in skill. The problem off-road is tech failure and repair on the trail. I’d like to see how they all fair over time with only the help of the knowledge and tools that an off-roader takes along.

[@andymckane7271]

I greatly enjoy the videos TFL puts out. I suspect that deep down Nathan is far more a Jeep lover than a Land Rover lover. For many years (1964 to the early 1990s) I drove Land Rovers. There was a time where Land Rover (and Rover) products were my first love. But having seen the same problems with one vehicle after another over many years, I decided these products lacked the reliability that I wanted in a car. I bought my first Jeep in 2012. It was a factory order JK Unlimited Wrangler Rubicon. My Wrangler Rubicon is more capable off the road than any other 4-wheel drive vehicle I have ever driven. In approximately 26,000 miles, my Ruby still hasn't leaked a drop of oil. All its hoses are still the ones Ruby left the factory with. The speedometer has never quit. No part on my Rubicon---except the navigation system and the battery in the car has ever been replaced (other than oil, filters and wiper blades). My Rubicon has never broken an axle shaft. Nor have I ever had an exhaust manifold crack on the Rubicon. I'll always---and I mean always---have a warm spot in my heart for old Land Rovers (mostly the "Series" vehicles). But the logical side of my brain has become sold lock, stock and barrel on the Jeep Wrangler. I plan to order a JL Wrangler Unlimited with diesel when the order bank opens up for the diesel Wrangler. (My JK Rubicon is now in Hawaii; I need another Rubicon for use here in Utah where my wife and I spend most of our time. If the new Land Rover Defender is announced before we order our JL Wrangler, I'll take my wife for a test drive in the next gen Defender. But I suspect our next "car" will be a Jeep JL Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon.) I love the videos you TFL folks produce. Thanks to your entire crew! Andy McKane, Springville, Utah and Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.

[@NathanDAdlen]

Andy McKane Howdy! Thanks for the insightful comment. You’re absolutely correct, I am a Jeep guy; however, my secret love was my ‘96 Land Rover Discovery. It was amazing off-road and it had a rare manual transmission. I totally regret getting rid of it.

[@DavidPruitt]

Newer ones are more reliable than older. Older Jeeps have had the same level of reliability as Land Rovers. They've both gotten a lot better recently. I have an 04 Disco and the problem with that year range is the target market versus design. It was a farm truck marketed as a luxury vehicle. It needed that farm truck level of maintenance but soccer mom figured it would be like her Lexus going 10k between oil changes and never having to open the hood to check for anything. Once I sorted out the Disco it became reliable, 15k so far without any major problems. As they say once you get Land Rover fever the only cure is ownership.

[@lbnewell23]

Wow I mean that’s astounding they are so capable and they’re older than me!!!

[@manowar5516]

I wish more manufacturers besides Jeep and Land Rover would do these media heritage type events. Be it on/off road, race tracks etc.

[@morgan7a]

The loose ceiling lining is a great advertisement for the 2018 disco :)

[@morgan7a]

Sorry 2003....totally understandable then.

[@isaacho4573]

I love your videos! Can you guys do a video of 2018 Range Rover off roading?

[@NathanDAdlen]

When Guinea Pigs Fly We have a few videos on the TFLcar channel!

[@9MrBulat]

That would be a walk through the park for any JK, even TJ :D

[@AndrewA-zt4fo]

My money is on the Rangie. I used to own one. I adored it. It was a beautiful car. I pulled so many Prados out of mud bogs that it wasn’t even funny. Now I’m a proud owner of a series 2 Disco. But my heart is with the Rangie.

[@MetalHayd]

Be interesting to see the Wrangler vs Defender both are 4x4 icons

[@coastless8773]

"i don't jump on camera" haha neither do i :)

[@maintainer747]

Where did this take place? I would love to visit that course....

[@MegaGouch]

I think Land Rover nailed it with the Discovery 2, has just enough electronics to be of use (traction control, hill decent, ACE and rear air bags) but is almost as basic as the Disco 1 and Defender underneath. Both the diesel and petrol versions are easy to work on and the electronics only need a basic code scanner. The interior and ride doesn't give up too much to newer vehicles (considering it released in 1999) especially with the ACE system and rear air bags. No doubt the newer vehicles are a huge improvement, but the Disco 2 is close enough that you don't have to feel like your missing out on much and it feels like a huge leap from the Disco 1. I laugh when I see brand new SUVs towing or with a full load in the back and see the rear suspension sagging down and think my 19 year old Disco fixed that.

[@gullf1sk]

Those Land Rovers are not leaking oil. They must be all out of oil.

[@OndrejPrymek]

LR is not 'leaking oil', it's 'marking its own territory'!

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

The discovery II hands down was the best combination of old school solid axle with tech to male it better offroad. Love my disco II. I've owned 3 of them and they are best all around off road erst to me, along with the Toyota Land Cruiser fj80's

[@jackgaunt2502]

This is a really cool video!!!

[@tylerl6942]

I like the look of the old disco compared to the new forsure. The double sunroof was extremely cool imo

[@offshorebear]

Land Rovers are my guilty pleasure. Would love to have a clean, reliable D2. I wish the new ones had better tires.

[@barje.waffles5461]

offshorebear. Clean one is no problem. Reliable one..... might be hard to find.

[@ruben_glz-fr8sb]

I have a Range Rover 1988 my dream truck

[@bobmamipoko]

*Car

[@realnews4186]

I've always been a Discovery fan and the Discovery 2's were the true last generation 4X4

[@FungedeBagre]

Nice comparison.

[@silverioarroyo5968]

They look so good, wish I could have an old defender.

[@cjeam9199]

Rather drive a fiat multipla than that new discovery. From the back it is the ugliest vehicle I have ever seen, they’ve just stopped designing it past the B pillars. Land Rover of ten years ago would be ashamed by what they make today.

[@robthurlow1347]

cjeam and land rover of ten years before that would be ashamed of what they were making ten years ago

[@svnbit8408]

cjeam I get it, from an industrial design standpoint, not much differentiates it from a Forester, however it took me a while to get the lr3 aesthetically, it appears more masculine than I used to think. That being said this is too much a departure from the Disco pedigree, I'm guessing Tata is going to water down the defender as well, it's like every model cannabilizes each other in terms of it's bias for competing with cross overs. Exactly your point, it's basically says they decided to give it a fat arse because storage space was something they thought about last in the concept phase.

[@robthurlow1347]

I would say it started going in the suv direction for land rover when the failed to win the two contracts from the British army to replace the 101 and the land rover defender back in the 90s, they submitted three contract proposals one to supply defender wolf's which they won, one to supply a discovery based version of the defender called the challenger that would replace the gs defenders lost out as it's payload was less and one to supply a over cab light truck to replace the 101 which they lost the contract to Bedford.

[@twstrchasr]

cjeam I agree, it's hideous !! I own a pristine 70,000 mile 1991 Range Rover Classic and it's really hard to believe the two vehicles come from the same company.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

Personally I love the way the new Disco but my wife hates the way the rear end looks. She wont have one just because of that.....just shows how fickle and spoiled we have all become because we gripe about the way the back side of a vehicle looks. LOL!

[@Ganbala]

Nathan where was the best Land rover the first one who introduced the terrain respond and today everybody copy.... LR3

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

English?

[@bicimotoworld4115]

awesome video guys!!

[@ImTheJoker4u]

if I remember correctly the VW Taureg was the first to use the ABS system as traction control. Pretty slick tech.

[@edinreviews]

John Ulicky Touareg came out 2002 ish? The Discovery 2 had it in 1998-9 I think

[@mitchmasterfix5292]

I believe the MB ML was the first (1997). That is the first 4wd to use traction control instead of limited slip/locking transfer cases and diffs. Cars had traction control based on ABS before that.

[@neilbrailsford4882]

to avoid that spinning wheel a keep moving press lightly on brake and at the same time on the accelerator to avoid stalling. standard practice when driving defenders offroad without traction control here in the uk

[@nucl3arfamily906]

As amazing as the new Disco is off road. It’s only as good as the tires. It NEEDS better tires for anything other than very light off roading. That simple upgrade takes it to another level.

[@mostlybrokenbritishcars3220]

The problem is you literally can't put good tyres on the new Discovery. The wheels are just too big and brakes are too big to fit smaller. Sure you can get a mud terrain to fit, but with such little sidewall you can't get a big enough footprint and the tyre/rim is so vulnerable to damage.

[@alexatowne4144]

oh wow that new discovery looks disgusting compared to the old LR4.

[@Alan_Mac]

The new Disco is vastly superior to the LR4 in every respect.

[@EricTRex]

Alan Mac except it’s ugly, has less cargo capacity, and uses 20” wheels for which there are zero off-road worthy tire options.

[@alexatowne4144]

EricTRex this is true.

[@VNtergon]

less cargo? are u sure about that? and as with the old LR4 u probably can put smaller wheels if u wanted to.

[@Raycolorido]

The LR4 and LR3 look as fragile as this new one, to much plastic around

[@pennfootball71]

Now have they discovered how to keep the air springs from popping like balloons and causing thousands of dollars in damage? Why doesn't anyone ask about that..that system is the worst in terms of reliability.

[@Russh1]

pennfootball you're kidding right? I've never heard of a D3 or D4 air bag 'popping', they're over engineered if anything. The shock absorber wears our before the bag and the bags outlast most springs that would be sagging well before the air bag has worn out.

[@kojener]

Same '97 NAS Defender as mine, but that one is just perfect. It's nice to see it on dirt! Mine is my daily driver and my trail truck (and it shows). Since I don't have the cabbage to make it perfect like that one, it will slowly disintegrate around me while I fix the important bits as they need it. I am genuinely lucky to be it's guardian. it's value though, continues to go up, faster I hope, than the deterioration. I expect it will even accelerate as more rich folks who earned their dough become more and more enamored with them for the fact that they do NOT use a computerized doodads to do it for you and for the pure form follows function of the best 4x4xfar. Long live my Blue Beasty!

[@Joe-rx7ht]

I have a well equipped 2003 Discovery II. I wish I had all 4 in the video. :-D

[@missionron]

Was there no lockers in the first defender shown here? No traction control either?

[@robilahoud9389]

It would be great if you do a similar video but about Jeep

[@TheFoxyy18]

You think this channel needs MORE Jeep content?

[@robilahoud9389]

Shane Martin no but it might be good bcaus Jeeps also are SUV's with a large history it would be nice to do it old bs new

[@kb9oak749]

Jeep got raped and then passed around at the party. Now it's just a lifted Fiat.

[@robilahoud9389]

oak 1971 IAM talking about real Jeep SUV like the 1989 to 2000 Cherokee and the zj 1998 limited edition 5.9 or the grand Wagoner or even the CJ (Wrangler)

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

I too would like to see a "progression of history and technology" for Jeep. Start back with the Willys MB, then through the CJ-2/CJ-5/CJ-7, into the birth of the Wrangler with the YJ, then TJ, JK, and now the JL. If you think about it, what we know as a Jeep has been around since 1941.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

Great video!

[@jedironin380]

That was a cool comparo!

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Nothing like seeing LRs struggle on easy obstacles!

[@BrentMB79]

Thank God the Disco is around to drag the jeeps out of the woods

[@jakubstrumillo]

Finnaly Overland Expo West i own once RRC 3.9 Vogue, great very capable 4x4. But, but body rust as hell.

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

Simply put, there is no other vehicle like the Defender. The FJ40 and maybe something like the CJ-5 come close, but the D90 stands above all the rest. They don't make 'em like that anymore. Also, anyone else catch that classic Bronco at 5:19?

[@dustyrusty7956]

I owned a CJ-5...It kept on tilting onto two wheels more often than not. Scared the p**s outta me every now and again...but it did have very workable approach and departure angles.

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

I've heard it did that a lot. It was early tech to be sure, but it was also amazing at what it did.

[@T4nkcommander]

MultiPurposeReviewer I mean, I could have probably done the same stuff in a 2wd truck, easily in mine. It was OK for the time I suppose

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

What do you drive? I do realize that this course was nothing extreme, but there's plenty of examples of Defenders doing incredible stuff.

[@T4nkcommander]

MultiPurposeReviewer I didn't mention it as it is apples to oranges...2017 ford raptor. I really was comparing stock to stock, and to be fair, I'm not sure the Jeeps of the time had lockers either (or broncos for that matter). Not that a little braking can't do the trick, but yeah. Personally, I think everyone outside the US gets screwed on vehicles - Ronny Dahl, for example, paid more than I did for my Raptor to have a vehicle not much nicer than my beater 06 Trailblazer.

[@johnlatsch9720]

I was wondering why the defender didn't do as well as mine on the frame twister. I realized the one they used has an anti roll bar.

[@VnazT]

I wanted to bring my d90 to boulder for you guys but looks like that’s not needed. Also bob burns is the man.

[@hotwheels100]

Did anyone else notice that Nathans driving got a little more sloppy the more tech he had ... not a criticism on Nathan's driving it just shows the less a driver has to do the less they think about what they are doing.

[@isiahsmith4927]

Truer words have never been spoken.

[@stephaneg]

Crazy to think that it took 17 years for us to start selling Range Rovers in America...

[@JeepCherokeeful]

They must’ve cut out footage of the Freelander.

[@lucascannell4418]

nice display of land rovers but they seem to be missing the oil leaks

[@tkreitler]

Dear Land Rover - Please bring back a "less is more" vehicle (like the Defender). I drove the new Range Rover at Overland Expo East last year. The new traction control and air bag suspension is impressive but not what I would want long term or for long trips in remote areas. For that I would want a vehicle I could do trail-side repairs myself with simple tools. I know you have to sell the "city" cars in order to make a profit but just give us one real durable, minimalistic off-roader.

[@derek6947]

I liked my 2001 Discovery 2 but a lot went wrong with it including the power locks and the transfer case. My 2005 LR3 is a much better vehicle and is still going strong at 157,000 miles.

[@MegaAli213]

He for sure, my next truck is an old school defender. Got the Disco II on life support again in the garage 😥😟😞

[@schmoab]

If you’re a fan of the Defender 90, read the book Crossing the Congo.

[@GoCeltics734]

great, now I miss my old Disco 2 again...

[@raychat2816]

this is gradually depressing, seeing off road fun taken away generation by generation, no off road enthusiast would willingly buy the new Land rover, unless they're absolute beginners and richer than wiser ...

[@goitoutdoors]

The first minute we get a glimpse of their team reality. ha!

[@JeepCherokeeful]

So in a LR as soon as the trail is a bit of a challenge the 90 can easily turn around?

[@mylifeisJDM]

3:09 words of wisdom

[@bernardhossmoto]

Great clip, great LR guy! The rear of the new Discovery is so ugly, it makes the car a nogo :(

[@shawnrush3088]

You forgot the LR3!!!

[@AndrewA-zt4fo]

Also, what’s with the amount of V8 Land Rovers in the USA? I don’t get it. I’ve always gone for the Diesel option since the V8 landies are too thirsty.

[@JoelKreider]

Andrew A ... Never understood why either. Torque, efficiency, and reliability/longevity make so much more sense for a heavy SUV. Probably a lot to do with the market they’re sold to here. They can afford the US gas prices, and don’t typically care how far they go between stations. Probably the real reason though, is: we apparently have excessive restrictions on diesel emissions here, so it discourages car makers from offering them. Also, always thought electric assist would boost efficiency for LR’s... c’mon guys, you’re luxury. Innovate the drivetrain electrics in the spot that matters to the rest of us.

[@bengold121]

I like the Defender 110.....very rare to be seen on the road. I have the 1997 Discovery series 1.....not very good quality suv.....it has very expensive parts, but love the boxy design.

[@bradleymeyer9775]

Land rovers seem like awesome off road vehicles. For any Land Rover/Range Rover owners, how reliable are they? I’ve heard that they are unreliable and that’s what I don’t like about them. I what I like about them is that they send like great off roaders, and Range Rovers seem very luxurious too.

[@danielpino4590]

I own a 04 discovery 2, was my first car I’ve had it for 3 years now and have had issues with it but it has NEVER left me stranded or not turned on. I broke my rear differential on the beach have done my waterpump, window regulator twice, power steering pump twice & a radiator. These trucks will last if you show them love, you have to be on top of fluids and do maintenance a lot. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

[@bradleymeyer9775]

Daniel Pino Thanks for the feedback 👍

[@danielpino4590]

Brad Meyer of coarse👍🏻 trust me. Once you drive & own one you will never want to drive anything else. Best 4x4xfar!

[@rralex7622]

Two Range Rovers at the moment. One has 300k miles and only off-road nowadays. If you maintain it properly it won’t disappoint you. The other has 75k miles and has been in 13 different countries in Europe. I wouldn’t have any other.

[@barje.waffles5461]

Daniel Pino. Own the same car and have the same sentiments. Great off road too. Easy to work on, which is great as we have to do it often... lol.

[@laurentiuchideanu6321]

The old LEGEND rock!

[@abuubaydullah1]

High tec is great till you have a small problem then the car stops where it is and you just can't call out the local garage or fix it on the move thats the problem i have with high tec, now if and its a big IF make something high tec which can be turned off so as to beable to get home but that will never happen can't have old school with new school high tec,can't use the battery on new tec to weld anything up lot of good points lovely points with new tec but i don't believe it will out do old school 100 to 200 mile off road and something brake's' The Fast Lane Truck love the review though thank you :-)

[@CHMernerner]

13:04 'long travel suspension' on D3 and after ??? 😂

[@m-at-the-w142]

It's funny how they didn't compare an LR3/4 to this new one. I really wanted to see how it stacks against the precious generation.