Oldest Beings in Halo | Lore and Theory

In this episode: we look at a variety of characters in the Halo Universe to find the range of ages for just how old different characters of different species can get.
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[@genericnameandgamertag7448]

Johnson is just naturally always in his prime

[@ThommyofThenn]

Bro is in great shape for an old timer, heshould make a workout tape. Sadly, it's all classified!

[@SpartanBrix]

*was

[@rce343]

He knows what the ladies like

[@jason2077]

Until he wasn't.

[@speedygonsales1043]

💀

[@Cute_Maxi]

78 years old and still knew what the ladies like... what a legend.

[@FireChicken747]

I thought he was 49

[@Cute_Maxi]

@@FireChicken747 Talking about Sgt. Johson not Chief

[@FireChicken747]

@@Cute_Maxi I know I thought sgt Johnson was 49! I didn’t know he was 78!

[@Human_01]

The ladies like guns 🤦

[@Cute_Maxi]

@@Human_01 BIG guns

[@krymera666x7]

If the Spartans are capable of cellular regeneration, their aging will be greatly diminished, while the other genetic treatments will continue to give them their speed, strength and endurance. Scary to realize we’re on the verge of breakthroughs in regards to this science.

[@antimatteranon]

supersoldiers and rich people

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

​@antimatteranon That sort of thing would make its way down eventually. Just like cars did.

[@boundtobounce2983]

Were on the path to transhumanism and I'm all for it, transfer my mind into a robot please.

[@nobleman9393]

@@antimatteranon Birthrates in many countries are going down, so probably one would want to keep people working as long as possible.

[@antimatteranon]

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem we shall see. this kind of tech is a bit different from cars. the best tech we won't get tho. that's not for us. just like how the "best" cars are only for those with the cash.

[@sevi117]

Well, human space travellers usually cheat using cryo, while as far as we know the covenant doesnt. So its no wonder that Johnson never looked older than 50. I'm more impressed by the fact that he took al those years at frontline so well. Remember that Johnson fought at the insurrection war as part of project ORION (SPARTAN I), was deployed at Harvest at the beginning of the covenant war, and never stopped fighting since then (he even abandoned hospitals before they finished patching him up). Chief, on the other hand, is more than 20 years younger and also was freezed most of the time while travelling between battles (like Johnson) since the start of the human-covenant war (he was 14 at that time), and he took it much worse. His voice almost sound broken. He and the other Spartans sould look at theyr late 20s at most but when you hear chief he sounds at least 10 years older than that.

[@amdkillaplays]

The Covenant didn't need cryo, their ships were fast and accurate enough in Slipspace that it wasn't needed. They also see their troops as more expendable than humanity does with theirs. Any ages calculated here will be from the year of their birth to either 2560 or the year of their death, so however long they were in cryo would have to be subtracted. If Lasky is still alive, then his age will be far more accurate due to less time spent in cryo than other unsc soldiers

[@sevi117]

​​@@amdkillaplays yeah, I thought the same for the Covenant but didn't want to make the comment much longer. It must be difficult going back to civilian life for UNSC shipborne personnel. The more they stay in service the bigger the age gap with relatives and old friends. Seeing a younger brother becoming older than you must be hard to assume.

[@cyqry]

I think one thing worth noting here is that officers, especially high-ranking ones, are usually regarded as "essential" and so rarely get put into cryosleep with the exception of Captain Cutter because they had no real idea of how long the ship would be drifting. I think that Lord Hood, being the highest ranking flag officer of the UNSC Navy by Halo 2 at aged 62, would be essential enough for him to never be put on ice, and we see how old he looks in those... though I guess the stress of leading the war effort to prevent your own species genocide would probably age you terribly too.

[@nomadicsprtanii4693]

Man, hearing that Faber-master builder at 13,000 years old is considered young is insane, then that added lore of spark all this time we’ve known him has had the composed mind of forthenco, a human predating the firing of the rings is again. Insane. Just goes to show that with all the science fiction media and content out there, good or bad, there’s nothing like halo

[@Gyrfalcon312]

That revelation was pretty wild. Some years ago, I had a story idea... this fragment involved elves as the elder race of Earth, and their very oldest was almost as ancient as the Master Builder. Even then, I boggled at the concept of being around _that_ long.

[@themooch6674]

I was kinda expecting that at the end he’d mention lord hood calling him out being older then the forerunners

[@JFMNorwich2013]

Last time I was this early the primordial was still a precursor

[@richardwilmer4550]

: )

[@Baytuh]

I don't know why but this made me chuckle a little.

[@Gyrfalcon312]

You've earned your Like. Now get out... and make more _Halo_ -related witticisms. 👊

[@brandicunningham7243]

Wait- did they retcon the primordial?? Sorry haven't kept up

[@Baytuh]

No the primordial was a precursor.@@brandicunningham7243

[@crazyguy_1233]

Surprised Cutter wasn't mentioned. I think he is 80 by Halo Wars 2.

[@fsgjafgja]

What i would give to be like Master Chief when i'm 49+ years old lol

[@genericnameandgamertag7448]

Something id like to note for the precursors is that I do not believe there ever was a reference to any precursors being born, and since the precursors form of travel involves crossing through other universes (silentium), its likely all the remaining precursors also predate the halo universe.

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

Seeing as the Precursors made the Domain, they would still get the top spot. Unless there is some SUPER hidden lore that wasn't mentioned here.

[@John2r1]

We know that the Precursor made the Domain over 100 billion years prior to the current era. Thus the Precursor are older than the Domain. Meaning they predate the currently known universe. Just saying the Precursor are the oldest things in the universe . Granted they could just be a physical manifestation of the living universe itself. Which could explain how the Precursor can take on any form they see fit including non physical forms.

[@antimatteranon]

i like this theory

[@mattmc9812]

They made the domain with their combined knowledge of a 100 billion years

[@nihilityjoey]

You literally have no idea as to the context of those words. It's like guilty spark talking about how the ring has gone through multiple millions of simulated test firings. If this were true in the sense that he sat there and conducted test after test, it would take thousands of years to run those tests. By we know chips operate at many instructions per second so you could reasonably presume this was a programme of sorts. The precursors are just over ten millions years old.

[@mattmc9812]

@@nihilityjoey look up halopedia on there article the precursor

[@John2r1]

@@nihilityjoey Except that is literal lore that the Domain is a Precursor construct. So in order for the Precursor to have created the Domain they have to be older than the Domain. Since we have no older race in the lore and since they are stated to have created the Domain. Making the Precursor in one form or another the oldest species in the universe. And the only logical way for them to have the abilities they have in lore is for them to be a manifestation of the living universe itself.

[@sierra121cyan]

The thing is, was Johnson 78 years old physically or in total time? Physically meaning the time his body actually aged, outside of cryosleep, total meaning the time from his birth to his death, including cryosleep. As a part of the military, he'd spend a LOT of time in cryo, so he could be 78 in total time but 40-50 in physical time.

[@hamishsewell5990]

Amazing work! Babylon 5 did something similar with Lorien, the first of the first ones, who is billions of years old, the first member of the first race to achieve sentience in our galaxy

[@cyqry]

Can't say I've ever watched Babylon 5, but something strikes me off about "the first race to achieve sentience" somehow coincidentally being one of few who managed to achieve what is likely immortality. I'm guessing they modified their own genome to allow this?

[@hamishsewell5990]

@@cyqry Lorien and the others who came first were actually born naturally immortal before later generations started aging and living shorter lives. Lorien and his fellow immortals explored the galaxy before becoming teachers and guides to the ‘Younger Races’. As Lorien put it, the rest of his kind ‘fell ill and died, were injured and died, the rest went away’ beyond the Rim of the galaxy into the intergalactic void

[@cyqry]

What I don't understand about Colony being 250 years old is that they are colonies of worms forming a sort of hive-mind when merged, not strictly a single being. Would it not make sense for them to create new worms to replace dead ones, allowing them to achieve a sort of immortality assuming no physical damage or illness prevents reproduction of its worms?

[@HumanThePerson]

I would like to see a video of how you think chief would/should die

[@Installation00]

Got two videos on it already! Search, "Installation00 how Chief should die" here on KZbin!

[@Top-G35]

Don’t think he should probably should get put in cryo or something of that sort

[@Human_01]

Man, I love halo lore. It's incorporation of actual science and real world logic and history only makes the series additionally inspiring!

[@captainbloodloss1]

i do think its worth noting that the crew of the spirit of fire spent a long time in cryosleep, so if going by exact dates, chronological age may be much longer than biological age since being on ice stops aging

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

32 years if I remember right.

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

The cryosleep thing applies to most human characters in Halo, due to the vast majority being in the UNSC.

[@Youhaveaname]

I can only hope I look and move HALF as good as Johnson when I'm that age!

[@lololol924]

It's hard to give accurate ages for the humans on this list due to the reality that would have been in cryosleep for weeks if not months whenever they had to travel. Who knows how many years Johnson or Chief could have saved being frozen, in-between deployments. Admiral Cole, basically living on a warship would have had to go into cryo more often than anyone else.

[@Cmdr__Exo]

Hey 00. Could you do a most detailed analysis on the “I.S.A.C. System” from The Division or the “Warmind Rasputin” from Destiny?

[@justinmarshall1444]

The shout-out to John for I don't fucking know makes me laugh every time

[@XD-kw2nq]

Installation 00: "Johnson looked damn good for his age". Johnson: "mmhm you damn right i am". 😁

[@patty-ow9ul]

Just came across your content I really enjoyed it, subscription earned😊

[@acciobeer]

Before the Halo games began in 2552, Slipspace trips took months, if not years. As a result, crews spent large amounts of time frozen, temporarily arresting their natural aging. Therefore, if Cole spent a collective of 20 years frozen across his lifespan, his biological age would be 20 years younger than his chronological age.

[@Tetrohedracon]

Great video man.

[@gabrielcox4661]

Bro, excellent job on the video.

[@ryan_1099]

Awesome you made a vidya on this, always a fun thing or ponder about. I want whatever Johnson had. Er.. wait

[@Yamaazaka]

Awesome vid!

[@MarioTheLiopleurodon]

Forthencho seems like such a badass, he's so cool! I wish we could see a human-forerunner war game where Forthencho gets to shine

[@shadowl3gion641]

Thanks for your amazing video

[@ShawnGoodisonProductions]

I can't help but to notice at 3:18 through 4:10 the background music here is like Delta Halo Suite, but remastered or sounds more isolated than the soundtrack version. Would love to listen to this version unless it has been remixed in some way. Great video btw.

[@Myjacob99]

Forthencko is still over 1,000 as a ancient human since he was there when the war with the forerunners started

[@davidsnyder238]

A ton of fascinating information. Infinite possibilities...

[@stormbreaker7373]

Woah love the new intro!

[@Starcat5]

New splash screen. Nice.

[@sierravortec2494]

Master Chief is the Tom Brady of Spartans

[@TheLehi5]

just imagine you are a 70+ y.o bad ass in halo univerese and just kick ass and smoke cigars, but you are already out of cigars.

[@savaget2058]

At 78 years old, he knew what the ladies liked 😂 I can't help but wonder if the time spent in cryo is counting for Johnson?

[@thegreathonorablepotato4466]

Wait if there is an archive in the domain that predates the universe, then wouldn't its creators also predate the universe

[@snperkiller1054]

The only caveat i have is that i would have wished to see Cutter included

[@ddunfuh9239]

5:30 this is incorrect, Dr.Sandmoore got his degree in 2459, based on that we can add anywhere from 20-22 years onto the 101 years assuming his degree was a university one making him around 121-123 years old

[@jesselindsey2263]

The reason why the age thing is a thing is either they have good medicine or they go into cryosleep

[@AGleeBustHard69]

To everyone remember cryostasis is a thing stopping biological aging but not the numerical one so all humans could be older numerically but still be in their prime biologically. Also didn't the precursors make the domain? Wouldn't that mean their older than the domain thus also be older than the universe?

[@TheRealMrSpoon]

So in Halo Infinite we knocked out the Old Folks Home

[@ltsgobrando]

I just want the word to know I was having a halo survival dream and my car alarm followed by squealing tires. Someone hit my car and drove off. The dream: I was shopping in a Home Depot when some random guy told me I needed to start climbing and get outta sight, so I did. Got up on the top shelf and heard the storm going on below. Then I saw a flood spore beside me and squished it, then started freaking out cuz that would alert them I was there. Then I went up to a loft window that was up there (for some reason) and looked out at the park across the street, it too was getting overrun. A combat form dropped from the roof onto the balcony out the window, and I pushed it off. Then I was in the park, almost like a 3rd person fly by I guess.... Yeah then real life summoned me and it's 3:45 am, just got off the phone with the cops, and I'm wondering how I'll get to work in a few hours lol

[@javierisaai]

I feel young after having watched this. Thank you.

[@savaget2058]

Chief was just out here killing octogenarians in Halo Infinite 😂

[@SamGardunia]

Damn Master Chief is old

[@scramble7673]

Hang on a second, the grave mind is considered to be the last of the precursors. Hence the creation of the flood out of disdain for the following creations

[@dennistomboc8995]

I just think due to some of them having to go to cryo sleep,it’s possible they do age in terms of earth years but not their bodies

[@HNTRKLLR]

Called the Domain before you got there! Great choice!

[@nexuvareldari7418]

Actually the Cosmic microwave background radiation which is as far back in our past we can see, took the light like 92 billion years to reach us, meaning just observable universe is under 100 billion not 14 billion like people think ,so your correct although we are missing time before the CMB meaning universe could be more than 92 billion.

[@caenpegasus3786]

Curious?....does the HALO world default to working off of the "Gregorian Calendar"? Using the time chart of Earth's "orbit" around the sun [360 days] & "rotation" [24 hrs]? If so, how do the Humans and other Sentient beings born on other planets determine what their age is?

[@theyoboygamer3754]

in universe the UNSC uses the Gregorian calendar, and while they have planetary time on record, they always use and base everything on time from earth's perspective. As for outside the universe, it's easier to put into perspective characters like the arbiter's age using the calendar we have now, which is why he's 73 and not something dumb like 32 sangheilian cycles.

[@LateNightHam]

The domain may have 100 billions years of achives bit that does not mean its that old. If you record for 15 minutes on 2 different cameras you have 30 minutes worth of footage in 15 minutes. The only reason the domain has that many years of archives is because of the sheer number of view points.

[@isolationnationn]

Margaret Parangosky died in or before 2555 when Osman took over ONI, no? She didn’t retire, Osman was set to take over only when she died?

[@MatthewYoink]

So wait… applying relativity here, all of these ages are relative to the time we experience as a year according to the UNSC calendar or years pertaining to the time it takes their home worlds to make a rotation? Because while Faber could’ve been 30,000 years old, that’s relative to earths time as a year, meanwhile he could’ve been 300 since the forerunner space was deeper in the galaxy so they experience time relative to the center of the galaxy different than the slower speeds of the Milky Way arm part of the galaxy right?

[@Tastylettuce12]

Do we actually know if the Covenant/Banished have the capability of doing cryo sleep. Is that a uniquely human tech? You would think some San Shyuum would be vain enough to use it.

[@korremusic1596]

Ngl like your videos you do a great job but I gave up on this one about 7 min in bc I got hit by 3 different adds in that time frame. I don’t know if my phone was trippin or what, but if I can spend less time typing this than it took to get through those adds then I just don’t care enough about the information being presented.

[@TheNotoriousLARGE]

Of course the Precursors are still alive. They weren't confined to the Milky Way and are effectively immortal. Even if the Forerunners somehow figured out how to kill one and wiped out every one in the galaxy, there's no way even they could wipe out a species of what are essentially gods

[@squigglesmcjr199]

Im assuming that humans still keep track of age via earth years??? Not in orbital periods of home systems or colonies?

[@username.mp4387]

Nice

[@LookitsMacee]

W vid Instalation

[@jameslove3860]

Turns out its just bungie chilling in the domain with marathon.

[@temporaryalien5573]

Are you sure you are not counting years they been in cryo sleep? Johnson I’m a tad confused on with him being 75 and looks like his in his 40s

[@dougsmith6262]

Keep in mind that military personnel, and people that often travel in cryo, won't show their ages as much as frequent space travelers. But in 550 years, I don't see why people living more than a century will be as commonplace as it is to see 70 today.

[@whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy8854]

how is the the copyright stuff goin?

[@Installation00]

Near 100% success rate!

[@michaelmann2637]

My only question is do we have any knowledge on how old Gravemind is?

[@nanor_mgt]

Oldest looking being is Halo Wars 1 Cpt Cutter

[@rigen97]

I wonder if 100 billion years of archive really means it is 100 billion years long. KZbin has hundreds of years worth of videos. It is 15 years old.

[@Gfish17]

Imagine what kind of technology has to exist to extend the human life span and youth to multiple centuries.

[@Gyrfalcon312]

I'm guessing a combination of genetic engineering and nanotech. The nanometer-scale machine could repair cells, enhance them possibly - just spitballing - while customized genes express in the form of "immortal" cells... easing the workload of those mech. swarms. All while keeping you looking as vigorous and bright as when you were 18.

[@Gfish17]

@@Gyrfalcon312 I need to learn biology and Engineering. Sadly I have difficulty retaining memory.

[@trekkie117]

Soooo, Durandal? Guess he really did escape

[@jasonl7974]

Sounds like a lot of senior abuse LOL

[@martinvicktor]

Didnt the precursors create the domain? Or is it a fundamental part of reality?

[@THEMAX00000]

Hitting your terminal, rank at Sgt., and then having to serve for decades longer….. That sucks

[@KamoteeMorty]

i think they spend most of their time in cryo.

[@bmxdude1337]

Hmm interesting, I guess I'm not that old😅

[@sampatterson2434]

I totally count huragok as living beings, even if originally created by the Forerunners.

[@azovveles6690]

More humans in are modern area are living to be centurians. Take the technological advances in the haloverse it should be commonplace for humans to be a centurian if allowed natuarl devolpment. However with the Great War/Convenant War, and the events in infinite with Cartona EMP of the human colonies would drastically curve life expencey for humanity in unnatural ways.

[@graydi66y]

I would argue that spartans are not human. At least not of Homo Sapian Sapian.

[@stormjones725]

What is zeta halo? Is that the newest one we are on in the infinite?

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

Yes

[@barkdawg]

How old was lord hood

[@sigmundfreud4133]

By 2560 he's 111

[@AwesomeRando]

So is The Domain older than the Precursors?

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

No. It was made by them.

[@petertaysum8947]

How old is Sheila the tank?

[@AeronHale]

The Domain being older than the universe itself isn't actually that unbelievable. We know other universes exist in Halo. Because the Forerunners used newborn universes as a power source. This iirc was explained during the Forerunner Saga books. If newborn universes can be used as a power source then it stands to reason universes older than our own exist. Of course that begs the question of where The Domain originally comes from and that is a question that we simply can't answer as far as I know.

[@er1cdoom]

Didn't Dr. Sandmoore get his degree in 2459?

[@codyseeds2372]

Nah man, the Domain is a KZbinr, he looks like he’s like 25!

[@mattmc9812]

Well that aged well 🤪🤪🤪

[@Zenlore6499]

Place your bets for the oldest geezer in the galaxy!

[@KittyKatAspen]

I’m curious what your thoughts on Bladerunner replicants are if Engineers don’t count as biological organisms. I counted them, but that might be my own lack of understanding of their composition. I thought that them having free will and whatnot made them more likely, but that’s it’s own can of worms with AI involved.

[@iunnor]

But what is a "year" even?

[@jacobsnodgrass1888]

I believe I figured out of who in humans the geas of the Ur Didact belongs to. I was reading on the biography of the Forerunner on the wiki and found the term ‘star hopping’ used against humans. This aroused my curiosity as it reminded me of a piece of WW2 history so I clicked on the link and confirmed my suspicion. It was a reference to the Island Hopping tactic used in the pacific islands against the Japanese during WW2. So I was overviewing the personality of the Didact and concluded that the geas fits perfectly with American general Douglas MacArthur. Interesting if I say myself.

[@duncanvinsonhaler5770]

im first

[@luzfire7523]

Age is tricky, considering Time is a bit fucky in the Halo Universe. With beings unaffected by time and others manipulating it, heck even Humans trick their numerical Age with Cryo. And let's be honest, the Domain being older than it's "physical Manifestation" is just a fucky concept, because with the Neural Lace Humanity employs (The ones from the "Secret Super Humans" Video), they are also way older than their Time in our Universe shows. Heck, if we count that, the Flood again shoots up to Number one, considering the Amount of "Lifetimes" integrated inside the Gravemind, not even counting all of the Forerunner Biomass "Age" at their Prime. Not sure if Precursors acually have an Age / can die and those aren't just descendants of the first ones, so I'm not sure if that counts as "Oldest". So until we meet an Precursor actually older than the "Last Precursor"/Gravemind, the Gravemind will stay on top for me.

[@bedosar]

Ll)

[@ThommyofThenn]

😮 there are 343 likes. I really want to leave a like but i dont want to spoil that! If you would prefer, simply like this comment and i'll happily leave like on video. Hope your 2024 goes well, looks like we have a great start in the channel!

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

856 likes

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@vickiy.forsyth6497 guess that answers my question LOL. Ill like now

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

@@ThommyofThenn 😅😅

[@PackHunter117]

Does this mean that The Domain is Halos version of Allah/Yahweh/God/The Trinity? Because in Abrahamic faiths God preceded and created the universe and everything in it.

[@antimatteranon]

u could say that. just not a very active or caring God.

[@PackHunter117]

@@antimatteranon So what created The Domain then? I thought the Precursors did. Because if The Domain is technically a “living machine” that would imply something made it right? Since it’s surprisingly older than the Precursors that would imply another alien race created The Domain right?

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

just wanted to comment these chapter names suck

[@LovelyBaseballStadium-xc7kb]

Jesus Christ died and come back alive for your sin all you have too do is too,Give your life to jesus and give up all your sin. Please join seventh days adventist Christian movement

[@andrewbutton2039]

Nah, too busy.

[@mattmc9812]

​​@@andrewbutton2039Wiseman keep away from the Adventists

[@LovelyBaseballStadium-xc7kb]

@@andrewbutton2039 you can just spend 2 minutes praying and 2 minutes reading bible 3 time day at home or onnyour break.

[@LovelyBaseballStadium-xc7kb]

Thank you for commenting back may jesus bless you all.

[@andrewbutton2039]

@@LovelyBaseballStadium-xc7kb I would but I'm in the middle of another book at the moment. Strangely enough its the same genre, historical fiction.

[@MatthewYoink]

17:30 Fake News, books aren’t canon. Especially these new age ones. Precursors are gone and 343 attempts to bring them back for their lack of creativity isn’t an excuse… any precursors still alive would be in corroboration of the gravemind, who stated as the last precursor, that he was the last precursor. Fuck that new light novel… stuff like that is why the halo story is a mess nowadays.