Oldhammer Rhino Armored Assault Vehicles from 1988, a Rogue Trader Era Retrospective

[@darthhall6187]

I'm old AF, and was around for the original WH40K Rogue Trader release. One day whilst mooching around the city center of Manchester, I came across a hobby shop that had mispriced the the rhino and land raider kits for waaaaaaay cheaper than they should have been. I borrowed all my friends pocket money and bought 6 rhinos and 4 land raiders for the same price as as one box of land raiders at the time. I was so nervouse at the till in case the staff realised there was a mistake. Thank the maker such things were possible back then. Best day of my young hobby life.

[@ethanorange3705]

Fascinated to find that my childhood took place in the 'age of yore'.

[@evanlindsey1100]

The weapons on that deodorant hover tank came from a Zoid, which were wind up model kit toys that were robot animals and insects. There's a video here on youtube where someone attempted to recreate the deodorant tank using modern Zoids parts, but due upscaling on the Zoids, they had to use a larger, similarly shaped bottle. This was an informative video, thanks for putting it up.

[@WilhelmScreamer]

Got a link to that replica attempt?

[@evanlindsey1100]

@@WilhelmScreamer kzbin.info/www/bejne/n37WkJSebbl8gZY

[@brotherhoodofsteel4751]

One of the things I love about 3D printing is that there are plenty of artists out there who have made STLs based off the original rhino not only that but they've also made conversion kits for some of those interesting kit bashes and conversions you saw in magazines.

[@kek23k]

I remember cycling a 30 mile round trip to pick up my first set of 3 rhinos from my 'local' toy and model shop, when they first came out.

[@ironbomb6753]

Wow man, that's an adventure! We used to pedal, maybe 12 miles round trip to our hobby shops, but that was mid 70's. We were after plastic WWII airplanes and tank kits. By the time 40k was being released, I was out of the Air Force and back at model building and gaming.

[@thetabletopsupershow3670]

We weren't totally limited to these. I remember making that Grav attack vehicle as well as turning an ATST walker into an ork monstrosity that we called The Gruumsh Walker.

[@cavemanbum]

7:34 - Back in the early 1990s, I built a Rhino for my Imperial Guard, and it's painted up specifically as an ambulance; it's camouflaged, but it's got the huge white panels and red crosses and everything. And I always used it as a mission-based vehicle, for special scenarios. 😆

[@martinneumeyer9282]

These were great times of GW

[@alexdoran527]

A tenner for THREE Rhinos? Absolute madness. When I first got into 40k I'm pretty sure they went for between £15 and £20 for just one

[@peterclarke7240]

Yep. This was the glory days of 1st edn. Plastic was seen as somehow inferior or less desirable than the old white lead models, so plastic kits cost a LOT less- you could pick up boxes of Orks, Squats or Guards for about a tenner for 36 models, or 30 space marines. Even with inflation, that's absurd. £10 in 1988 is still only £27 today. Imagine being able to get 36 GW infantry models for £27 today. It's why I've gravitated to Wargames Atlantic's miniatures, because they make interesting Guard proxies and I don't feel like I'm being bent over and violently shafted. 😂

[@alexdoran527]

@Peter Clarke recently I painted some Nurgle Space Marines I had lying about, and last year I painted some Lizardmen skinks. I would have been 11/12 at the time and bought them with pocket money, must have been between £5 and £10 a box. And my lead Nurgle Champion blister pack cost me £5, I remember that well! For a character model!! Great time to be playing the game. I also have a lead Chaos Lord from around the same time, but in my infinite wisdom I "kitbashed" it with a Catachan Jungle Fighter head and Glamdring off a spare Gandalf model I had. Couldn't quite tell you the logic behind that tbh, but I still have the mini!

[@xaeraellockwood2365]

I can blow your mind even further if I told you two Land Raiders originally cost £12.

[@animeator]

I do miss the riding lizards. Big Wizards energy.

[@rrwholloway]

Just got hold of two of these (one the old razorback). Great fun to restore back to its former glory.

[@billistefansson5309]

I have three Rhinos and two Predators of the original "Mk I" variety, none of the later iterations. (also two of the first Land Raiders). I`ve been playing since Rogue Trader era and see no reason to "upgrade" my vehicle park. Appreciate your content, thank you! B

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

The muted colors and historic camo patterns on most of the early rhinos are quite different from the bright chapter colors that are now standard on vehicles. I have a number of the original rhinos I picked up when they were cheap - It’s rare to see one with all 4 original curved exhaust pipe tips still intact!

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

That space wolves Rhino is so cool

[@josephskiles]

The old models just had so much more soul to them than anything pumped out today. I'm kinda surprised there isn't at least FW kits for various factions as an update to the riders.

[@LinkiePup]

I genuinely think that the new plastic Demios Pattern Rhino is a fathful, and lovely update to the original Rogue Trader Rhino.

[@aglumm9469]

Great video. Very informative. Keep them coming!!!

[@TB1439]

The year i started to play 40k. And that was the back side and the centerfold of whithe dwarf 103 that made me want to start playing and paintg. Feels like yesterday when i went to buy my 3 in 1 box rhino. 😁

[@metajock]

I've got three of these sitting in a box, should really pull those out and fix them up. Guy who gave them to me paid $30 US for the set back in '89. One of them was battle damaged with the intent to be used as terrain, but I think I can fix it up with a bit of love.

[@DarkAlex1978]

The OG rhino has a level of modularity (allowing a fairly good range of custom configurations) that the "new" one could only dream on.

[@konstantineKein]

nice video, thank you for the footage

[@DartzIRL]

When the new Rhino was released, the *old* Rhina was the oldest model in GW's range. The 'new' Rhino is now years older than the 'old' one was.

[@g1stylempdesign929]

Thank you, this was truly excellent!

[@WolvesHart79]

I have a bunch of OG rhinos thanks to the good ol' Space Wolf rhino rush tactics I used extensively in the Eye of Terror global campaign.

[@CptMonstruoso]

I love this so much! Thank you!

[@MajorSvenGaming]

An amazing video... I have two of these myself, happily serving my iron warriors since the mid 90s.

[@RUTGERMORTENSEN]

Outstanding seeing this stuff, keep up the good work!

[@nudgernudge9840]

I like tge sound effects at the end.

[@thesampsonite]

Great work! Love it!

[@lostsanityreturned]

Also, manufacturing, injection molds and sculpting has actually gotten cheaper. Both because of scale and technology advancements.

[@Hobbyrepubliken]

07:08 Possible origins of "lasguns are flashligts" right there, since the artists imagined the front lights of the Rhino as a weapon

[@piotrjeske4599]

I still have 3 of those

[@johnclarke25]

Still got my 3 rhinos from the original box finished in three colour camo,they go in my 150 plus squat rogue tradder army with landraider and predator from them,the beaky marines I used as crew in a plaster of Paris hovercraft that was made as well as an eldar falon that I got from games day 88 I think,wish I'd bought some of the armourfast models that were for sale as well.

[@stephenjdutton]

The set of three Rhinos was one of the first 40k sets I got. Now I have quite a few of them as well as some of the other vehicles based on the same hull. The Land Raider model that was shown in the Rogue Trader rulebook was very different to the eventual kit that included two vehicles for about £13.

[@dungeondan7119]

Another great video looking back at the golden age of games workshop! Really enjoy your videos thanks for the great work 👍

[@marasmusine]

Rogue Trader had a wonderfully confusing statline for vehicles. For infanty "W" meant wounds. "D" might be shorthand for weapon Damage. On a vehicle, "W" meant weapon capacity and "D" also meant damage, but in this case it means Wounds not Damage. I cannot fathom why Priestley did this.

[@Soccer67]

I had two of these kits (NEVER OPENED). I already sold one a couple years ago, but can still share images of the box if you're interested.

[@Mystyx-Sama]

And The Exodites STILL aren't a thing because? I want dino-riding, wild Eldar, damnit!

[@billistefansson5309]

My son is actually working on a unit of those right now. I look forward (!!!) to meeting them on the battlefield. B

[@williamtrident6979]

Great video, I will be looking forward to predator tanks

[@joelkurowski7129]

My rhino got converted to stand in as a Hellhound in my Guard army. Now that im doing Black Templars, i want to convert it back lol. But if the current Rhino wont fit Primaris, the old one will definitely be too small!

[@MustContainMinis]

Great video!

[@MonsterPainter]

enjoyed

[@Ragsta]

Fond fond memories :)

[@bentilbury2002]

Those 2-colour pack and great company markings, and that very pale grey armour colour for the Space Wolves were first introduced in the 2nd edition Codex Space Wolves in 1993 or 94, I think.

[@MannyKunV]

i bought a rhino during 3rd edition in maybe 2002. the instruction sheet at 3:14 is the exact one in the box. seeing how it is an older instruction sheet, maybe they put it in there for the sake of finishing off any extra old printed instructions they had left over

[@incredibleflameboy]

I didn't have a marine army until just before the mkII was released and that was a chaos army at that. I foolishly bought a couple of the new ones and and planned to buy a mk1 to represent chaos not having new design but the crossover period where the old stock was available passed and I never managed to get one.

[@lukemcdonladson6648]

Very Cool .. ✌️💚

[@81hewp]

The vehicle turning templates/ rules.

[@JacintoDeSousa-bq2wp]

NICE!

[@Capng123]

I actually have that spotter marine from the tank crew but can't for the life of me remember how or where I got him...

[@1985slipstream]

A plastic Rhino when i was 12 in 1997 was £10. soon mover to £12

[@Nodwick123]

I always preferred to look of the old rhino over the newer ones, I think around 2010 I starter getting in to horus heresy/great crusade whit the old AotE rules I picked up on ebay 2x 3 pak ones and 2x of 90s newer box ones while they where still fairly cheap, they are now in my pile of shame and at some point I like to believe I will get around to use them.

[@demonic_myst4503]

Oh look a time when games workshop encuraged the use of third party models instead of punishing it

[@redgreen09]

me do not have the minis of SPMs that haned out on the tank but have some old rhinos fore mariens and good fix is ues old stapels as hand rails just got heat up and melt right in to the platic alwys replce bits like that that and antas

[@kharnifex]

Good old beige plastic *snap* oops

[@DaLavenderhillMob]

I dont see the old space wolf insignia

[@boardofgames]

Awesome video. To be fair inflation uk calculator says it would be the equivalent of £26 in 2023, they currently run at £32. Not horrendous but still nearly a 25% increase in real terms. I’ll be painting my original Rhino up on the channel soon hopefully. As Space Wolves Or Dark Angels.

[@marasmusine]

Don't forget you got 3 rhinos for your £9.99 :) I might be misremembering but I think Landraiders came as a set of 2 for about £6.

[@peterclarke7240]

Nope, you're dead right. £6 for two landraiders. Absolutely mental when you consider what GW have done to their prices since then. Obviously the casts and materials are better and more "realistic," but I do miss the glory days of 1st edn, when £50 could set you up with a fairly impressive 1500pt army. I used to run a guard army that consisted of 3 boxes of 36 guards: 108 infantry for £30. Utter madness. I had a 40 tactical platoon, a support platoon of 20, a command squad and a frankly ridiculous 40 man assault platoon with jetpacks and twin plasma pistols. £30 for all the carnage you could wish for!

[@peterclarke7240]

Sorry, £50 was more like 2000pts.

[@boardofgames]

@@marasmusine absolutely. It’s crazy. I’m sure my singular rhino from early 90s was a good £9.99 for one

[@boardofgames]

I remember though it seemed like a cheap way to get my points up when I had limited funds.

[@Lucius292]

i have some original packed rhino. but the plastic is degrading. from the package 😢

[@bobdole8830]

Adjusted for Inflation this Kit would cost 34.31GBP. 3 Rhinos today cost 97,5GBP, so roughly 3 times of what they are worth, and they are one of the more fairly priced Kits GW offers. So we know GW could sell us a Rhino for about 15 GBP a pop (adjusted for higher ressource prices) and still would turn a profit, the other 17GBP probably go directly into the pockets of rich investors. Welcome to 2023 wage slave, now shut up and get back to work!

[@ChillingCrowley]

Awesome video! The mk6 space wolves look really cool. I had an old rhino with the dozer blade sadly it's long been sold it traded