10 Commodore 64 Sequels That Blew Their Predecessors Away

[@paulbennett2284]

Wise choice with PitStop 2 - that was one of my faves on C64. So much that when Nintendo started selling C64 games on the Wii store, it was my first purchase followed by Uridium.

[@oldstylegaming]

It's a great game for sure, still plays great today too

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Turbo outrun for me was absolutely fantastic

[@MurderMostFowl]

Forbidden Forest vs Beyond Forbidden Forest. Both great but the second game’s improved graphics and sound was just amazing to me.

[@KineticRX]

The music that played when you were getting killed in BtFF still makes my hair stand on end today. Brutal detail in the deaths, too (for the time, of course)

[@IsaacKuo]

Shamus Case II. Shamus was a good Berzerk type game with flip screen adventuring action. But Shamus Case II radically modified the formula into something truly unique. It mixed things up with platforming screens and weird shooter screens. The shooter screens were a weird shooter/breakout hybrid that set Shamus Case II in a class all its own. The platforming screens gave you the unusual - for its time - ability to maneuver left/right in mid-air. This is standard now, but back then it was a cool twist.

[@johnbanks2521]

I have never heard of its magic 1 or 2 or Fire King. Will have to look them up 😀

[@jray9786]

“About as crazy as a chartered accountant’s lunch break.”..😂😂

[@oldstylegaming]

The thing is one of my friends is a charted accountant... Hope she doesn't watch this lol

[@PGGMusic]

Turrican I vs Turrican II, The Last Ninja I vs The Last Ninja II, International Karate vs International Karate +

[@BeanoTubes]

Brilliant games there! Armalyte blew me away with those ace, smoothly animated graphics and the gameplay! Thalamus could really up the c64 graphics to high levels! Kikstart 2 was incredibly addictive, tweaking building and replaying them courses! Cheers very much, another top vid 🍻

[@oldstylegaming]

and remember Kikstart 2 was budget, what an absolute bargain

@@oldstylegaming I always like the original Kickstart better than number 2.

[@dekat7656]

Yes trowing around these objects was Good fun double dragon

[@Lucasrainford]

Nice switch flip! Not familiar with a most of these so I'll take yer word for it, those I am familiar with I fully agree with! Nice list and good move leaving out the really obvious ones, would have been a tad predictable. Nice one

[@oldstylegaming]

yeah i mean ...half of the obvious ones are sooo close to the originals, how do you pick from the Turricans? you would probs like Battle Command

[@Lucasrainford]

@@oldstylegaming Yeah looks good that! Like a souped up Battlezone, I played Carrier Command on the Amiga, wouldn't of guessed they'd port that to the C64! But as I saw in the vid it's nothing like it....

[@falkaseltza]

Unlike with movies, sequels can be better esp on the C64, bc ppl work harder and perfect the code over time.

[@MacMelmac]

Kickstart 2 title screen tune is awesome.

[@hannessmulfsson1484]

Dragon Wars / Bards Tale Trilogy Druid 2 Enlightenment / Druid Cybernoid 2 / cybernoid Cauldron 2 / Cauldron Mega Apocalypse / Crazy Comets Speedball 2 / Speedball Cosmic Causeway / Trailblazer

[@Hologhoul]

Bang on form with the analogies, OSG! Several here I'm adding to my 'games to check out' list, I like the look of Fire King and It's Magic II. I do remember with Pitstop II, it was the first racing game to really feel like a fully immersive, long race, with unfolding events and pitstops. Excellent!

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks for watching mate

[@The_Gaming_Bristolian]

I would go with Robocop 2, Speedball 2 and Turbo Outrun Myself. As for Crazy Cars, I think you must be the first in History to recomend a Titus Game!

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah but it's a good Titus game .. probs the only one.

[@rafaellima83]

Can't speak about the C64 games... But Titus had a strange period between 1992 and 1994 o4 95, not sure, where they actually made some good games. Crazy Cars 3 on the Amiga is very solid. They made The Blues Brothers, Titus the Fox, Quik The Thunder Rabbit and probably more I can't remember (I know they made a few SNES games on that period too). But then they went back to do the usual crap they always did.

[@The_Gaming_Bristolian]

@@rafaellima83I seem to remember a Lamborghini game on the SNES they made which was quite good for the time. I think it got a follow up on the N64 as well. They did make some good stuff, it's just they did used to have a bit of a reputation back then.

[@rafaellima83]

@@The_Gaming_Bristolian they deserve their reputation :D

[@TheHobbyLodge]

Another cracking video mate, even a new one on me Fire King I will have to check that one out.

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah will be right up your street mate

[@steelpatriot3683]

I'll throw in a couple. BCII Grogs Revenge was a big improvement on BC Quest for Tyres......and whilst I think Finders Keepers is a great wee game, the sequel Spellbound was still a very big step up.

[@garethbraint]

I do enjoy your videos. Id love to see the last 10 c64 games made before the "demise" of the c64

[@oldstylegaming]

that is a great idea for a video mate, ill definitely do that

[@paulrobinson3902]

I think I'd add 'Clean Up Service' compared to 'Clean Up Time'. Wonderful fun

[@oldstylegaming]

They were so close to being on the list

[@swampjajc]

01:27 the cpu player always struggled with those slow beams. ❤

[@robvegas9354]

OSG Dude! Great video!!!! I always enjoyed Turbo Out Run on the C64, that was a lot of fun. I will have to check out some of the gems!

[@Lofote]

Turrican series is another example like last ninja, where the second game Was fantastic but the first one was already great

[@welshie6313]

Fantastic list.

[@dekat7656]

Good list

[@pjcnet]

Kikstart II was the 1st game that came to mind before I even watched the video, amazing for a budget game, spent many hours on it including playing with a friend. Before that I spent many hours on the original and couldn't wait for the sequel.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Nice list! I wonder how many of these sequels were written by the same person or team as the previous one. Sometimes a new person or team making the game is all it takes to make it better, though it's not always the original author(s) fault as games were often rushed to meet some deadline etc.

[@dace2150]

Great subject for a video! Can do a similar video for Amiga games?👍👍👍

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah im gonna do that next ;-)

[@dace2150]

Sorry I wrote the comment before the end of the video. Really great and I am going to play Chase HQ 2 again because of your video, I forgotten how great that game is 🎉

[@danh8122]

Turrican wasn’t a bad game but T2 was awesome. Same with creatures- C2 was brilliant with the torture screens

[@caeserromero3013]

I only ever played Crazy Cars III on PC, but the C64 version looks pretty decent by comparison. I LOVED Kickstart II, never play KS1. Conversely, I liked It's Magic 1 but so haven't played IM II. Will check it out 👍

[@spunkychops7484]

Fog on the Tyne wahhey man!

[@gildan]

Can't argue with any of these but I thought Outrun would have made the list. It's funny, and I know the packaging says otherwise, I never ever consider Armalyte a sequal to Delta.

[@oldstylegaming]

It is the sequel though. And you mean outrun and turbo outrun?

[@MephProduction]

crazy cars 3 is still a bit naff. cauldron 2 was better than the first

[@pjcnet]

I loved playing with a friend on Pitstop II and meeting each other on the track, I agree the sequel was much better.

[@snipe1973xxl]

LOL, we tore off several suction cups and damaged a QuickShot 2 playing PitStop 2 :)

[@oldstylegaming]

brilliant 2 player game though mate, me and my best friend used to play it none stop, and Kikstart 2

[@TheRhosoftherovers]

Loving this video for Kickstart 2 if nothing else!

[@TheRhosoftherovers]

Creatures 2, Paradroid 2, Uridium 2?

[@snipe1973xxl]

@@oldstylegaming So true, I and my friend tried to push each other off the road until the tires blew off :)

[@snipe1973xxl]

@@TheRhosoftherovers Super Pipeline 2 :)

[@Mayhemerz]

Didn't realise Fire King was meant as a sequel to Demon Stalkers. Not sure it was reviewed in Zzap (DS was).

[@npc310177]

No room for Kane II over the first Kane? Both were great but the 2nd is (slightly) better in my opinion. You're right though, Kikstart 2, Pitstop 2, Armalyte and Chase HQ 2 were far better than the originals. Not familiar with the others on this list but Crazy Cars 3 looks worth checking out.

[@oldstylegaming]

see I like kane 1 best, they are close though ...ah Kane what a game

[@Dante-cv3ts]

I didnt grow up with these games but i bet if i did these would of been amazing to have

[@mleolv426]

DD2 ...I played that so much

[@twankistevenson3884]

Crazy Cars 3 really was a case of Titus in actual good game shocker. I fluked it with both Chase HQ and Chase HQ2 - I decided to go with Chase HQ for my Speccy +2 not the C64.. The following year I saw previews for Chase 2 (but no reviews) and took the risk of pre-ordering it. Thankfully it was a massive improvement. Lot of love for Double Dragon 2 as well but pretty much every home port of the original was awful anything was going to be better the fact that it was actually great fun was a bonus

[@AmbersKnight]

Good video as always and can't really argue with any of the choices. I always felt bad for C64 owners with Battle Command because whilst all the other computer versions, including the Speccy and CPC, were 3D gamed all the way, C64 owners got shafted with that 2D overhead version which just looked abysmal. As for Amiga games, Crazy Cars 3 is so far ahead of its previous 2 its surprising they are part of the same series, as the first 2 were awful and then ehte 3rd comes along and it is such an improvement.

[@oldstylegaming]

well... its sort of not is it, it goes under 2 name Lamborghini American Challenge so maybe they were gonna drop the Crazy Cars name as it was a name that everyone avoided like the plague

[@AmbersKnight]

@@oldstylegaming Well it was released both as CC3 and Lambourghini (same game with a couple of tweaks). Either way it is so far ahead of 1 and 2 to be almost incredible.

[@greenmachine5487]

I just want to know which game had the 2nd generation Camaro from the thumbnail?

[@oldstylegaming]

Chase hq 2 special crime investigation

[@greenmachine5487]

@@oldstylegaming Sweet, thanks. I had a couple of those when I was younger, I love those cars.

[@Simon0]

It's magic 2 looks exactly like mayhem in monster land. Osg do you know what's up with that? Anyway excellent video.

[@oldstylegaming]

Probs inspired by it they came way after mayhem was released

[@Simon0]

@@oldstylegaming I think it's made by the same guys

[@cressie176]

Amiga - Xenon vs Xenon 2: Megablast; Speedball vs Speedball 2; Kick off vs Kick Off 2; Dune vs Dune 2; Super Cars vs Super Cars II

[@FabledGentleman]

Dune 2 is not really a sequel to Dune. They were in production at the same time, by two different studios, and fun thing, Cryo Entertainment didn't even know about the other game being made at first. Dune follows the 1984 movie very closely, as Dune 2 does not what so ever, it completely builds the world of Dune from the ground up. It is by most people maybe, considered to be a sequel just because of the naming, but they are in fact not related in any way.

[@rafaellima83]

Xenon 1 is a better game than Xenon 2. Xenon 2 is a bad shoot'em up with awful level design, really choppy, a stupid "scroll backwards" mechanic, a shop (those rarely ever work well in shmups).... but an excellent soundtrack. Xenon 1 is an average shoot'em up with some interesting gameplay mechanics and a decent framerate

[@cressie176]

@@rafaellima83 We disagree. I loved Xenon 2. It wasn't perfect, suffering from fixed attack patterns and slow down, but the gameplay was still decent, the weapons, soundtrack and graphics were all fantastic, the bosses huge.

[@rafaellima83]

@@cressie176 you didn't have access to shmups on arcades or other systems back then? Of course we can disagree and we can keep arguing and going nowhere, this is the internet, hehe :D But I had an MSX 2+ (not a C64) before going to the Amiga. I had Xenon on the MSX (a ZX Spectrum port), and I heard all the hype for Xenon 2 on the Amiga. When I got (pirated disks), I swear, I thought that was a leaked beta or something, I couldn't believe *that* piece of garbage was the game people hyped so much. I had better shmups on the MSX. What's even more weird... the Amiga already had Hybris and Battle Squadron by then. (I think also R-Type and Silkworm was already out?). There were good shoot'em ups on the system, there was no reason to overhype that trainwreck except, of course, every Bitmap Brothers game was extremely overrated for some reason.

[@cressie176]

​@@rafaellima83 I recall Hybris being released slightly later, not sure about the others but it doesn't really matter. Datastorm was also around that time too. Despite there undoubtedly being better shmups I don't think anything on the Amiga matched Xenon 2 for sheer spectacle once you acquired some of the power-ups. I still enjoy playing it now and I think it's a hell of a lot better than the original.

[@iwantthemoonback4198]

Is 'its magic' related to Mayhem in Monsterland? The style, the effects, the sounds... they're the same!

[@oldstylegaming]

nah not related but its magic came 5 years after Mayhem in Monsterland so maybe they took inspiration from it...sadly its no where near as good as Mayhem but Its Magic 2 is much closer in quality

[@iwantthemoonback4198]

​@oldstylegaming I mean they must have ripped sprites, sound effects as they are identical.. 🤷

[@CrazyAlfYT]

Please make an Ace Attorney video, It was a visual Novel released in 2001, I think it was very cool. And released on Windows and Gameboy Advance. I'm interested to hear your take on it

[@awatson3367]

Kikstart is the only one of these i had back in the day, and it was a favourite of mine. Haven't played the sequel though.

[@oldstylegaming]

you should defo play kikstart II its great

[@cressie176]

C64 - Outrun vs Turbo Outrun; International Karate vs IK+; Maniac Mansion vs Zak McKracken; Wanted: Monty Mole vs Monty on the Run

[@FabledGentleman]

Zak McKracken the sequel to Maniac Mansion? Day of the Tentacle is the sequel to MM.

[@robvegas9354]

Maniac Mansion, damn..... i actually made it through that game back in 1989..... 6 hour session after many many attempts. that bloody loose brick in the dungeon spot LOLs. Good Times

[@Vindicator18]

I would have added Test Drive 2 on the list, but that is a subjective choice too.

[@oldstylegaming]

Love test drive 2

[@davidmarchant9386]

Not watched yet but from the commadore64 i always remember harrier attack

[@oldstylegaming]

Did Harrier Attack have a sequel?

[@davidmarchant9386]

@oldstylegaming not to my knowledge, but randomly I saw your video and it just brought flashing memories of that game. That's why I put before I watch I didn't know if it did. But what was visually amazing playing on a colour screen for first time after only playing on geen for years

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

Renegade v Target Renegade

[@cpu_UP]

Lotus turbo challenge & Lotus TUrbo Challenge II for sure. About Dungeon Master and Chaos Strike back there was not a big change, so I would say will not apply.

[@oldstylegaming]

Lotus turbo challenge & Lotus Turbo Challenge II will surely be on the Amiga video :-)

[@CasperEgas]

How about International Karate?

[@oldstylegaming]

I mentioned that at the start of the video

[@gullpayne]

Very nice ☘️☘️☘️

[@nerdygeezer78]

Pitstop 2 & Crazy cars 3 where great games. Let's be honest Chase HQ 2 could only be better than the 1st one.

[@chrismcconnell8248]

"Tighter than a gnats chuff"? Seems like another Lee and Herring fan is here...

[@hazy33]

Love them but they didn't invent that. My mum's used that for as long as i can remember

[@NorthWay_no]

Mh... Armalyte was just a paper-sequel to ride no the publicity of Delta. They have absolutely nothing in common except the publisher. Note, I'm not arguing it isn't a better game!

[@keithhphoto]

Last Ninja 2.

[@oldstylegaming]

Love that game

[@clauscombat418]

Is Armalyte really a sequel to Delta? I thought, if anything, it's just a spirital successor..?

[@oldstylegaming]

Nah it's definitely Delta II

[@Mayhemerz]

It was never coded as such. Then Thalamus wanted to make it sequel, so had Cyberdyne add the ending and bits about story to link the two, but originally, nah, was never conceived as such.