All Sega Master System Racing Games In Order Of Greatness

[@oldstylegaming]

It's been brought to my attention that I say super hang on in the video... Sorry it's just hang on ...I have the label right ...don't know why I've said that ..lapse in concentration ...I don't even have super hang on written in the script lol

[@TheZmusicGroup]

Road rash looks impressive on the SMS!!

[@AvexFuddle]

Hang-on is just the best, I still play this version!

[@travisolson9413]

Enjoy your videos. They are quick and to the point. I just wanted to say thanks. They bring back lots of memories.

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate I try to make videos that I myself would watch...and quick n to thr point is how I like them too :-)

[@dingo4010]

That sprite scaling on OutRun Europa was truly mind blowing.

[@robqg]

It looks to me like they are using background tiles for everything as it seems that everything is very blocky. If so it works better than it did in space harrier, but it does make it feel a bit jerky. Brings to mind the chunky scrolling of the MSX

[@7200932]

Another great list. I will say as a kid I loved RC Grand Prix, I understand the frustration with the track edge collision but once you master the corners and start winning the game opens up with car upgrades (do you purchase the better breaks now or do you save one more race and get the better motor!) and the last track was epic!

[@oldstylegaming]

I'll give it another play and more time mate

[@ncf1]

hehe ive only recently been playing Super Off Road on this system and got so addicted, an amazing port, so happy to see it high up on the list :) Great video once again!

[@oldstylegaming]

It's a great arcade port ..Probably the best on the system

[@pliniomsann]

Thanks for this video. It’s rare analysis like that on the SMS. I didn’t know F1 Spirit and I’m excited to play it tonight

[@oldstylegaming]

Are you in Brazil ? I have heard the mastersystem is still huge there

[@pliniomsann]

old style gaming I live in the US since 2011. Senna is still considered the most skilled F1 driver and still have some unbeaten records, even having a half time career. It’s in Michael Jordan, or Pele level for sure

[@pliniomsann]

Forgot to mention about the MS. Yesss , still is sold there even today. Genesis was too expensive for most of us and Tectoy did a great job porting some titles (Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, etc), changing the sprites to Brazilian characters and translating games to Portuguese

[@Ze_Joe_75_RG]

Super video, beautiful realization. Very good day. Big like👍👍👍

[@skijumpnose]

The Mega Drive racing games video was great and enjoying this already, Didn't even know there was an Alex Kidd racing game!

[@oldstylegaming]

Probably want to try erase that game from memory lol

[@dafunkester]

That outrun music brings back some good memories, I got the soundtrack cassette free with a computer games magazine.

[@oldstylegaming]

Love splashwave.... Outrun 3d didn't even have it as an option..just magical shower and some others... Bit stupid that if you ask me..

[@HiddenAsbestos]

I really like SMS Chase HQ, and I'm glad you judged it on its own merits because it is super fun (if a bit random) - yes it's nothing like the Spectrum/Amstrad versions but that's probably why it runs 4x faster ;-)

[@OM19_MO79]

Road Fighter and F1-Spirit weren't released by Samsung, they were Taiwanese releases. They are MSX versions adapted to the SG-1000 and sold as Master System games, probably released around 1992 or even later. The MSX had a similar hardware as the SG-1000 and Colecovision, the difference is on the sound chip, the MSX has 3 channels that produce either tone or noise while the SMS one has 3 tones and 1 noise, the tone channels having a terrible performance as they are not perfect square waves due to a design flaw (which became a headache for programmers when adapting the code from the MSX and tried to sound well). The Korean SMS didn't have many pirate releases like these ones, ironically, the MSX (or rather said, the Zemmix) did. Samsung had the official licence from Sega and always made sure they kept the market legal (as possible at least). A lot of people hate Road Fighter for the spinning as well but it's a very fun game, I got the FC version a few years back.

[@Ruudos]

I haven't played the Master System-version of Road Fighter but in the NES-version you can recover from the crash. You just have to know how. The manual says that if you're crashing to the right that you have to tap right on the directional pad which is incorrect; it's actually the opposite. I guess it works the same in the Master System-version. It makes a huge difference game play-wise.

[@ThomTomful]

The version shown is the MSX version, which I suspect was ported to the Master System illegally. But, yeah, if you've tapped another car such that you're just starting to skid, you have a second or two to steer back out of it and recover. It's only once you're spinning that you've lost control and even then if you're far enough from the barrier and stop accelerating you may slow down enough before hitting anything that you can continue without exploding. I've played both NES and MSX versions, and they're very much the same in that regard.

[@markchambers3833]

Yeah, the Master System version is an unlicensed Korean port of the MSX game - a "lazy port" where the game hasn't been optimised for the Master System hardware. It's surprising there weren't more MSX/MSX2 ports to the Master System, as the basic architecture of the systems are so similar. Main differences are that the Master System has hardware scrolling and the MSX2 has a vastly superior FM sound chip. You see (a few) MSX games converted to SG-1000 as they were extremely compatible. It's a real shame that there weren't more MSX2 games ported to the Master System, a real missed opportunity.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

Hang-On is absolutely my favorite, it was my first Racing game and one of the first games i ever beaten, went on to also beat Zillion, Shinobi, Global Defense, Ghostbusters, Golvellius, Kenseiden and i think even Alf. still got quite a few of my original 13 games to beat, including Phantasy Star, Miracle Warriors and Alex Kidd in High Tech World.

[@willrobinson7599]

Some cracking games on the master system..wasn't great at 3d games but when the dev made an effort so truly awesome results. Road rash is excellent for an 8bit system

[@djrtg]

I forgot about the old credit card games for the first master system. Great video OSG. 👍🏻

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah just goes to show that even back then they could get the data into smaller carriers I wonder why they didn't keep going with them?

[@djrtg]

old style gaming its got me stumped. Worked alright for the pc engine/turbo grafix. My guess it was a cost-cutting move.

[@JonnyJamesC]

OutRun 3D and OutRun music sounds almost next generation compared to the beeps and blips of most of the other games on the list, they even have a bit bass. Never had a Master System back then but the console always looked like it had more colourful graphics than the NES in the magazine screen shots to me. Thanks for the video.

[@Left-Earth]

*Please cover Gameboy racing games.* _Maybe even Game Gear racing games._ Another excellent video, as always! 👍✨🎮

[@eskey691]

Road rash and Outrun for me all day long as these are the 2 games i spent most of my time on in the arcades (more so outrun) did play them on most home systems as well. Stand out thing with outrun for me was always the music still unsure why even to this day haha. Great video as always buddy keep up the great work and will catch you on the next one :-)

[@oldstylegaming]

The readin why is the music is awesome mate ;-)

[@markchambers3833]

You've never played Road Rash in the arcades as Road Rash was never an arcade game. Why are you telling lies? 🤔

[@eskey691]

@@markchambers3833 no lies here mate maybe I could of worded it better but hey it is what it is. Most of my time one Out run I the arcade and I loved Road Rash on the mega drive /Amiga. Hope this will help you sleep better at night 🙂

[@markchambers3833]

@@eskey691 No amount of double time fumbling on Wikipedia's going to save you mate. You tried to pretend you played Road Rash in the arcades. Like you're some kind of arcade veteran. Your lies have been found out.

[@eskey691]

@@markchambers3833 Almost 40 years mate playing arcade an computer games. I made a mistake I owned it get over it. But hey if you feel the need to try and belittle to make yourself feel better then have at it. Like I said I could of worded things better but I never, have a lovely day and sleep well 🙂🙂

[@Turbo-D]

the worst part of all those old sega games was the sound 🥴🤦🏼‍♀️

[@UltimateGamerCC]

8-bit games were not very good to listen to most of the time, NES and SMS both had their moments of sheer ear bleeds but they had pleasant moments too.

[@oldstylegaming]

The Outrun 3D music is probably the one that pushes the sound chip on this list but there are a few ok sounds here too especially Splash Wave on the original Out Run

[@oscarzxn4067]

@@UltimateGamerCC I think the issue is that the PSG soundchip of the Master System is not very good, and it doesn't help it didn't get any extra upgrades for some games like the NES did; the PSG one is better though, and at least for the Game Gear they added stereo

[@TheHunter2]

Enduro Racer was so good, but so difficult as well to beat when I was a kid. Spent hours trying

[@willrobinson7599]

Road crash is the only game on the list that doest feature flat hill less tracks. Devs showed what the master system can do when pushed

[@SaMiK81]

I have an idea for next video "every video game ever made in order of greatness". I really like your OOG videos.

[@oldstylegaming]

That would be some video lol.

[@SpartanDiab]

I disagree with 'no cockpit view makes it really bad'

[@31leoceara]

Me too. How many other games on this list have a cockpit view. Super Monaco GP 2 is definitely among the top 10 in my opinion.

[@XingFisher666]

Great list, some were quite cool at that time. I really enjoyed Super Monaco GP back then. Btw in Road Fighter you should be able to recover from crashes (into other cars if that's what you mean) by quickly counter steering or as I did, quickly wiggling left/right. Or at least that was in the MSX version which I had, which looks exactly the same.

[@oldstylegaming]

Oh...I'll give that a go

[@robqg]

First game reminded me of Mastertronic's BMX Racers on the ZX Spectrum - one of the first games I got, so it did get a lot of play, even though it was much worse than that one on the master system.

[@oldstylegaming]

Worse than the Alex Kidd game...wow that must have been bad

[@Barcrest]

I had the plus/4 version of that bmx racers game. I agree that alex kid one looks better and i played a lot of bmx racers.

[@nattila7713]

hm, seems none of the best master systems racing games are missing :D well done!

[@oldstylegaming]

Lol this one was easy ;-)

[@pliniomsann]

Road Rash low speed is only in the beginning of the game. It gets fast when you buy faster bikes. It’s the #1 racing game of the 8 bits generation

[@oldstylegaming]

Still slow compared to the mega drive though

[@pliniomsann]

old style gaming yeah, it’s 8 bits. Same happens with Sonic... the challenge is well done with better bikes and the faster pace. Just mentioning because it seems that you are judging by playing a few minutes of the game, not taking the whole experience as we did in the past ...

[@oldstylegaming]

@@pliniomsann Lol I actually had road rash on my master system so it was well played as I had to wait till my mother could afford a megadrive

[@pliniomsann]

@@oldstylegaming so you know the game gets better in the second half with faster bikes

[@brianvideo11]

My favourite SMS racing game is World Grand Prix.

[@SimmyBassline]

I had the SMS model 1 with Safari Hunt & Hang On built in when i was a kid, i detested Hang On as a kid and i still do now

[@oldstylegaming]

Really? Its a great game

[@adamphillip5305]

Great video & pretty on point list, for me tho regardless of how easy it is Enduro Racer should be alot higher, easy top 10, maybe pushing top 5.

[@oldstylegaming]

Nostalgia wise would be up near the top for me

[@Lucasrainford]

A few turkeys and some decent looking racers, damn impressed with the top 5 saying it's a 8-Bit machine. BTW m8, you said 'Super' when it's just Hang On ;)

[@oldstylegaming]

Look at the pinned comment Lucas lol

[@Lucasrainford]

@@oldstylegaming Ha just pulling yer leg pal ;)

[@MaxAbramson3]

Road Rash is 13-14fps? Pretty good considering the amount of work being done. That means only about 30,000 instructions per frame. Honestly, I wish that they'd left the clouds alone and done something else useful with those Z80 cycles because this is one of the best 8-bit racing games ever.

[@deathybrs]

Pity to see Action Fighter missing, that was my all time favorite SMS racing game.

[@oldstylegaming]

I was gonna put it in but it's more of a scrolling shoot em up

[@deathybrs]

@@oldstylegaming Fair enough, but the driving part of the game was pretty challenging.

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah I loved that game

[@markchambers3833]

Enduro Racer: a game I learned to love because there was nothing else to play. 😂 Good wee game. The Japanese version is way better than the PAL release though, it has double the number of tracks, a better intro screen and way more screen assets in-game. A complete mystery why Sega chose to cut the game down for the western release. I like the PAL version though, a quick and cheerful time trial with many happy memories. Even if they were forced on me!

[@waraiotoko738]

RC Grand Prix was great. I crushed that game. You just gotta, y'know, not crash into the corners...

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Great video as always OSG! I'd be really interested to hear about your favorite mouse controlled games - I'm not sure what you'd call the category or if the individual games are better off in single genre categories - but from Settlers, Syndicate, Dune 2, populous and many others - the control scheme gave rise to a different pace of game? (action too! "zombie apocalypse" 1 and 2 on the Amiga were excellent 'on rails shooters') - hope you're well! (how did I not say 'worms' first? I'm losing it)

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Cannon Fodder...Theme Park...Lemmings (lemmings ports could have an entire video!)... ok there's probably too many for any one category lol - maybe Mouse Action, Strategy and Sim?

[@oldstylegaming]

I'll have a think about that video

[@Yesterzine]

One of my favourite gaming trivia questions is "What's the sequel to Hang-On?" Because people who know nothing about games would say "Hang-On 2", people who think they know about games would say "Super Hang-on". But the people who know nothing would be right, Super Hang-On is the 4th Hang-On game, not the 2nd.

[@oldstylegaming]

It's weird that no one knows about Hang On II and even less about Hang On Jr

[@neilthomas6042]

Enduro Racer was the only one I played, I found it tricky and I would have put it higher in the list.

[@RickinBaltimore]

That Alex Kidd BMX game, at least it's not BMX Ninja?

[@oldstylegaming]

Lol

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

RC Grand Prix is a good game for the time, you need practice to get good, I completed it at least twice many years ago. I rarely hit the sides because it is technique and track mastering and the upgrades on the cars are important. I found it addictive when I was about 9 years old.

[@oldstylegaming]

I'm already gonna revisit that one cos someone else has said just that I love the style of that game so I hope you are right

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

@@oldstylegaming Just takes practice.. I did re visit a few years back on emulation and struggled with it, I am getting old and less patient plus my reflexes ain't as they were. Its a nice game. not perfect but has depth for a SMS game.

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Oh and maybe because I was not playing on real hardware and not using the SMS pad.. Lag don't help.

[@loohole81]

The top 5 on your list are the best ones hands down, Old style gaming. And I would say the only ones worth owning. Racing games were not the Master System's forte.

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah I got that while making this video...can't believe they made so few though

[@TheDneaves]

A few more are pretty good, world grand Prix, Buggy run, R.C grand Prix, Enduro racer. I thought Ayrton Senna super Monaco grand Prix was good too. But I am a big fan of him.

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

I only own 7 of the 24 racing games so cant comment on most but what i will say is Road Rash & Micro Machines are 2 of the Gems of my Master System collection no matter what genre we're talking about! Also did you know that Buggy Run is one of the rarest games on the Master system and for that reason is also 1 of the most expensive?

[@oldstylegaming]

I didn't know that...it's a good game though

[@mrmorgan5003]

What was the Sega game where the car comes out of the semi truck ?

[@markchambers3833]

Action Fighter.

[@mrmorgan5003]

@@markchambers3833 Thanks 👍 Memories Memories

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Just want to mention that the basic looking low colour games that you mentioned are not Master System games they are SG1000 games and you can play SG1000 games on the SEGA Master System (Backwards compatible) Only on the Master System Mk1

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah I know that but they are a bit like famicom and nes apparently

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

@@oldstylegaming No they are SG1000 games or ports of MSX..

[@oldstylegaming]

@@bit-ishbulldog2089 so the SG1000 was like an early master system? Cos it eventually became the mark III which became the first Sega master system?

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

@@oldstylegaming Just had some upgrades and became the Mk 3 in Japan.. The Mk 3 is the Master System but with a different case etc. The card slot on the first SMS can use SG1000 cards (I know the SMS is backward compatible) SEGA also done that on the Mega Drive for Master System games.

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

I'm not sure the Master System could do cockpit views. I'm no expert but maybe something to do with sprite size limitations or just hampering running performance.

[@oldstylegaming]

C64 did it

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

@@oldstylegaming True but i think every C64 racer that incorporated a cockpit view was using "true" 3D plains, the Master System is using 2D so maybe thats why?

[@jitmancanth6698]

Monaco GP looks like a clone of L.E.D. Storm

[@oldstylegaming]

Monaco GP was released 6 years before LED storm, it's not really a master system game but a sg1000 game which was segas first dabble into 8 bit consoles...and one that would eventually evolve into the master system that we know now... So maybe LED storm was a clone of that

[@jitmancanth6698]

@@oldstylegaming Looks older even than that! Wiki says the Monaco GP arcade came out in 1979. Amazing just how similar it is in terms of the track animation, the jumps, the night time mode.

[@jackburton8352]

Most were rinse and repeat back them with new sprites i loved RC Grand Prix back then never owned a Master System played my mates and kept telling him how much of a mug he was for not having a C64.

[@oldstylegaming]

I'll always prefer the c64 but it was great just banging a cartridge in and playing a game instantly on the master system

[@jackburton8352]

​@@oldstylegaming Admittedly i could see the attraction of that but weighed against cost no brainer i will sit for 10 minuets if it means i can buy 10+ games on my C64 for the same cost of one cart or card for the master system.

[@robchissy]

2 uploads in 2 days, someone has been busy

[@oldstylegaming]

Well the donpachi one was just a last minute thing cos it ends today and as it's a shooter I had to have it in...but I'm gonna try ramp up over the next week or so cos I'm so far behind with being unwell

[@robchissy]

@@oldstylegaming get better soon mate

[@oldstylegaming]

@@robchissy already better mate :-)

[@deathybrs]

There are times I think that for the bad games, you should keep the sound effects and music turned down. ;-)

[@oldstylegaming]

Lol

[@deckofcards87]

Yep, RC Pro Am on NES is superior. It's a shame.

[@heliorocha1706]

You miss Action Fighter..

[@oldstylegaming]

Cos it's not really a raving game it has shoot em up levels... I loved that game though it was awesome

[@rafaelvalderano717]

Most hardest games for atari 2600

[@oldstylegaming]

You want me to do that video?

[@rafaelvalderano717]

Yes😊

[@rafaelvalderano717]

more will it take you to post the video?

[@oldstylegaming]

@@rafaelvalderano717 ???? i have to first put a list together then play all the games to record them and order them

[@rafaelvalderano717]

I got

[@pliniomsann]

Why Ayrton Senna is a bad game? Which 8 bits game has a vision in the cockpit ? Almost none... it’s a very good game, perfect challenge and real circuits of the F1... the speed thing you mentioned it’s true but you get used after playing for a few minutes

[@oldstylegaming]

No games have the cockpit... I just don't like Monaco GP 2 it's slow and boring and made even worse that you have to go even slower to get round the corners super monco and the F1 games were meant to be cockpit view Sims

[@pliniomsann]

old style gaming we felt that in the time but you get used by the second race... It’s not boring because it’s hard. Beating Senna was hard and that was the most important goal (even in the 16 bits). We considered an improvement in the challenge at the time... The problem with the first SMGP is that was too easy (really boring)... in Brazil, having Senna in the game was also a huge thing...

[@oldstylegaming]

@@pliniomsann I'll revisit it tonight ...maybe I haven't give it enough of a chance :-)

[@pliniomsann]

old style gaming sure , do it if you like. Senna was like a god for us, even his voice saying “Congratulations” blowed our minds at the time 😅

[@oldstylegaming]

@@pliniomsann he was a truly great driver I actually remember watching the crash it was sad times

[@donkeyparadise9276]

Wish the ms had rad racer

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Not Super Hang On, just Hang On which is the first game and Super Hang On is the second game. You said Super Hang On in the video.

[@oldstylegaming]

Lol my mistake

[@oldstylegaming]

But I have the label right though don't I?

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

@@oldstylegaming Yes label was correct, you just said it wrong :)

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

The Master System is my first love when it comes to video game consoles I just know to much. Cockpit views would of been a tad bit difficult and the SMS was really a Arcade style system. SMD was just able to do cockpit views if coded well.

[@oldstylegaming]

@@bit-ishbulldog2089 the c64 did cockpit views though so surely the master system could have

[@wayneevans3860]

Nice graphics on the master system but shite sound😅

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah I get what you mean mate

[@UltimateGamerCC]

admittedly yeah sound could be terrible, but NES had their ear bleeds too, i just think that 8-bit sound needed a bit more development.

[@oldstylegaming]

@@UltimateGamerCC I'd needed the SID chip that's what it needed lol

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@oldstylegaming unfortunately i wouldnt know anything about that, it sounds like how my SMS was.

[@oldstylegaming]

@@UltimateGamerCC the SID chip is from the c64

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