Olympus OM-D E-M 20mp Ultimate Camera Comparison ep.284

The definitive guide and comparison between the Olympus OM-D 20mp cameras. Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark IV vs E-M5 Mark III vs E-M1 Mark II vs E-M1 Mark III vs E-M1X.
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[@BobK58]

Nice video. I started with the EM10.2. Love it. I don't do any video so all those specs mean nothing to me. I took it on a trip to Istanbul last year with the 12-40 pro and lumix 20/1.7. It all fit into a small messenger I carried. The pro lens isn't the best ergonomic fit but it is a stunning lens. The 20mm pancake was fast and sharp. Great for street photography and some indoor photography in low light. I had Costco print a 20" x 30" print on the skyline that is hanging in my dining room. Wow! 16 MP. I bought the EM1.2 after that trip basically for the handling. It's so much easier to carry around by hand. I have the 40-150 kit living on my EM10.2 now which I take with me every time I walk the dog because I love to try to photograph birds. The 12-40 pro is what's on my EM1.2. I rarely, if ever, use all the special features of these cameras. I've yet to do a high res shot. I do hate the fully articulating screen on the EM1.2. I'm afraid it's going to break. I also have the 45/1.8 I use on my EM10.2 for grandson pictures. Fantastic. I'm not a pro and mainly post on social media. Thinking of getting the new 100-400 to use on my EM1. Maybe next year. I love the light weight and size of the Olympus line because most of my photography is when I'm out hiking or vacation. Enough rambling.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for sharing your experience with Olympus. It's a great system!

[@letni9506]

I really want a fully articulating screen. I'm considering the em5 over this because of that reason only. Had them on my old cameras and I much prefer them. Not only because it keeps the screen in pristine condition.

[@petermcginty3636]

Hi Rob, I recently bought an Olympus E-M1 Mki and some OM mount lenses. I decided to get into vintage lenses to add a different dimension to my photography. Many of your old videos on OM-D cameras were very helpful when I was setting up my camera. Also, your video on adapting vintage lenses was super valuable. Thank you for making these videos. BTW the videos still look great🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@chepo1956]

Hello Rob, Jose from Puerto Rico. It's been a while since I posted any comment here, but I just wanted to let you know that I finally pulled the trigger and ordered a used OM-D EM mark II. I just ordered it today (December 26, 2020). After checking, it looked good for the price. 645 bucks on Ebay. After listening to you and other respectable KZbinrs who actually use the camera, I decided. I'm not a pro just a serious amateur that loves photography. The feature set on the camera is still impressive and as you mentioned, the mark iii though has nice to have features, I can do without them by following your suggestions and tips. Once it arrives and I order a lens, I'll probably be sifting through all your past tutorials to get the most out of it. I have a special place in my heart for Olympus since I still own a OM-4t film camera I purchased in 1986.

[@RobTrek]

Congrats! Thanks for joining me in the chat.

[@seamanjive]

Great show Rob...I'm still discovering things about my EM10 mk ii !

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. It's still one of the best cameras out there!

[@wahabdilawar]

Same here. I love it. It has a few shortcomings, but it's an overall great camera

[@sasmeh424]

I just bought it last couple days and still love it

[@AdamFavre]

I just shared this over at our OM-D Education Group on Facebook. Great resource for those looking at a new body. Ty Rob! Great work as always.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Adam!

[@sl-rt5kv]

Good summary of the differences between these cameras. I don't have an em10 mark iv, but they changed the grip on that camera. Some people, including Peter Forsgard, have said that this gives the camera an improved grip that makes the camera more comfortable to hold than say an em5 mark iii.

[@RobTrek]

I bought a grip for my E-M5 III. Still smaller than the E-M1 II, but not as small as the new E-M10 IV. Thanks.

[@cineffect]

Best comparison I could ever find online Rob, thank you. In the end I went for E-P7 as it fits my needs the best.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@Texasphotoguy]

Fantastic review. Currently looking at a used M1X $840 and a M1 Mark iii $823. I shoot primarily events and occasional elopements. For fun I shoot nature and wildlife. After this review definitely leaning toward the M1X.

[@billychampy316]

This is the exact question that I need help with. Thank you for making this video.

[@RobTrek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bikeandsee1647]

The fully articulated back is not just a selfies or vlogging stuff, but a mighty creative tool for placing the camera at surprising angles, like in the old times the TLR's were for pets, babies and anything else at floor level, previously unpossible to do. But the fully articulating back of nowadays has upgraded this specific capability to new levels, literally 3D 360 angles. A dramatic upgrade, not just a cuantitative one, "in my opinion".

[@RobTrek]

Good point!

[@carmenfissenden2530]

I had the choice a little while back of acquiring the em1 mk2 for just over £1k from Olympus with a free 1.4 pro lens and was very tempted . At the same time, they were also offering an em10 mk2 for £350 with the R2 kit lens. Since I was looking for a light weight go everywhere camera, having found that carrying another camera that felt pain all day being carried around my neck (and it was not particularly heavy or so I thought when I bought it) , I wanted something for street , portrait and landscape and this fitted that requirement perfectly , doubling up for travel as well. As you may have guessed I Choose the em 10. I do not do pro work these days and there is always a trade off on whatever camera you choose . Whist the Sigma 1.4 lenses look great , I suspect they are a little too big for this model. So, I will look to add a 45 and 25 mm 1.8 . Why did I go with the older model . In a word value and realisability that had been proven to work . My other digital camera was only ten years old and produces excellent images , but it felt heavy and I wanted a model that was flexible and light . Working within the limitations of the chosen model it does not disappoint . And here is the essence of your video. Match the camera to your needs and not just for all things it could do, which you may never use or use infrequently. This was a great video and thank you for doing it. If I saw it two months ago I might have been tempted to chose the em1 mk2, but it would have resulted in neck ache in the long run, as I had always thought it to big and heavy. And yes, I bought in to Olympus when others may not considered it as there first choice because it ticked all the boxes . I had a long thought of going with the XT20, but the average size of their lenses (excellent as they are) but found most of them too big. It is knowing one’s own limitations as much as the camera . Thanks again for an insightful and well thought out explanation .

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, the e-m10 mark ii is an awesome camera. It was my first Olympus and the camera that got me hooked on m4/3 for life.

[@robertcudlipp3426]

Have one and honestly don't regard the XT20 and Fuji X series glass as being "heavy" or that much more demanding to move around with than my Pen F and 12-40 2.8. Both excellent systems and excellent value for money.

[@carmenfissenden2530]

@@robertcudlipp3426 Fuji have some great primes and that was the attraction to considering the xt20. Zooms tend to be bigger and whilst the 12-40 2.8 is a great lens, I found it too big . In an ideal world I would have loved primes to be more affordable and light . When you look at what Canon can do a 50mm for and the price of Olympus and Fuji equivalent and you can see where I am coming from. There is no bad camera , just the one that ticks the boxes it was intended for. I began with Fuji cameras back in the film days and loved those as much as my pro gear. The standard kit lens was 55mm and I loved that focal length over 50mm. I also loved 40mm over 35mm, which is why I am excited about the new 1.4 40mm. In my wildest dreams I would love a Leica , but that would not make me a better photographer , no matter how much I would try to convince myself ha ha. Thank you Robert for sharing your thoughts with me.

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

Rob you do such a good job of breaking down the differences and comparing the features. If I had the money, I'd send you one of each camera released this year, just so I could watch your reviews and comparisons. Let's both hope that I get rich some day so we can do that🤣🤣. Nice job my friend, stay safe.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Wolftick! Hoping we both do!

[@yumenolala]

Awesome recommendations. I don't have a 20MP M43 camera yet. Still using the E-M5 Mark ii which does what I need. If I were to upgrade I would probably go straight to the E-M1 mark iii because of the USB charging. Again it depends on the price difference between this and the E-M1 mark ii. The 2nd hand market prices are always changing. The E-M1 mark ii is still an excellent camera especially after the firmware updates.

[@tizio54]

Excellent overview. E-MX1 also has (1) higher viewfinder magnification (2) GPS recording (3) dual UHS-II card slots (vs one UHS-II on the E-M1) . I wonder what camera (upgrade) will come next year (as has been rumoured).

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. I forgot about the GPS and dual uhs II.

[@WMedl]

As the older E-M10 models also the Mark IV offers custom settings - available over the menu 1 - Reset/Myset! The E-M10 offers 90 degree flip screen from looking above!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for the info!

[@Red35Photography]

This is cool mate. Thanks for your videos, informative and great guide for photographers of all levels.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Jimmy. Always good to hear from you!

[@mne9476]

Thanks again for a wonderfully helpful and practical video. Unfortunately, you didn’t make my E-M5 III vs E-M1 II decision any easier. LoL.

[@RobTrek]

I know how you feel. The answer is just buy both. LOL! Seriously, you really can't go wrong with either camera.

[@terrynoon8467]

As usual Rob a great, clear and succinct video. I am currently thinking of an upgrade to my em1 Mk 2 so your comparison to the mk3 was very useful. I think I will stick with the mk2 although the hand held hi-res mode is attractive. Thanks again for a very helpful explanation.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Terry. Glad this help put things in perspective.

[@palamj2]

Top video Rob. You are spot on about the E-M1 ii over the E-M5 iii. What was Olympus thinking releasing this camera and the E-M1 iii. The E-M1 iii is definitely worthwhile. The M5 iii is a waste of resources.

[@RobTrek]

Thank you. Ironically the em5-iii is my go to camera.

[@arthurrmcphee4885]

You've detailed a very concise overview of the differences and use case for each camera and recommendations, excellent video Rob.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Arthur. Good to see you in the streams lately!

[@eldorado5650]

Happy New Year from New Zealand, Rob! Such a lot of good information packed in a video! I am a Lumix (GM5) user but I have always loved the form factor of the E-M5. It has everything plus the weather-sealing. I don't mind the plastic construction of the Mark III as cars have plenty of plastics too and they are put in harsher conditions. I know those are of a different grade but they are still polymers. Stay safe, mate!

[@RobTrek]

Happy new year!

[@gregm6894]

Happy 2022 Rob! Thanks for the excellent comparison video. Two additional 'upgrades' for the E-M1 Mklll and the E-M1X over the other models -- if I am not mistaken. Both of those two top tier models have an improved 'dust shaker' mechanism and both have a 400,000 cycle mechanical shutter. I believe the E-M1 Mkll has a 200 or 250,000 cycle shutter. These are not big issues, but are rarely noted improvements. I recently upgraded from my E-M1 Mkll to the M1X, and I am thrilled with it. Even the button design and dial action are improved -- and it fits my have like well worn glove, and I love shooting all day with one battery load. I've all but ditched my tripods. As you correctly pointed out, the only negative I can see in the lack of Starry AF -- sure hope OM Solutions adds it with a future firmware upgrade.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for sharing that info. Happy New Year!

[@momchilyordanov8190]

From the current lineup, I would choose M5 III because of size/price/capabilities balance. With the M1 series (combined with the better lenses in order to get the most of it), one gets into size/price where other brands offer cameras with significantly better IQ. So, my logic is, get the most capable small one and use it with the smaller lenses, like the 12/2, 17/1.8, 25/1.8 and 45/1.8 and even 75/1.8. These are still very capable, I had them all on my M1 II. But If bigger is needed, just go full frame.

[@tomerweiss4900]

Good tele in FF will weight around 2.2KG so in M43 it sill 50% less (100-400 ¬ 1.1KG)

[@TL-xw6fh]

Your logic about FF sounds fine until you start adding the size and weight disadvantages of the lenses. Just look at the latest 50 mm f1.2 lenses for the FF cameras vs the Olympus and you will know what I mean. I did not even mention the long tele lenses. A 600mm/F4 tele lens for FF will need a 5kg tripod and a separate trolley to carry it on your wildlife/sports/outdoor shooting.

[@dayeah765caoni3]

@@TL-xw6fh not to mention a higher budget for computing power for post processing lol

[@RobTrek]

Nice selection of primes. I couldn't agree more. As others have said here, it's a balance of size/weight/price.

[@scottmunford3472]

Thanks Rob. I was interested in going from the EM1 MK2 to the MK3 (primarily for the starry sky feature). After watching your thoughts regarding upgrading, I think I will wait for a bit. I already have the tripod, the extra batteries, and the ND filter for the 12-100 Pro lens. So I should be good to go! (for now!)

[@RobTrek]

You're all set, for sure! Thanks.

[@lweleven3423]

I’ve had a few myself , you mention the 10mk ii you used for professional work. It is a very underrated camera , so was the 5 mk 1 , I upgraded to the 1 mk 1 the mk ii I love them all , however one point I will make if anyone is reading is TRAVEL .. it’s a lot to carry when you get into the PRO lenses . And in all honesty as nice as they are REAL world Printed A3 I struggle to see the benefits from a kit lens . All the Olympus lenses are great , ( sure pixel peep on a computer screen you will …So Travel is why I would buy a 10 mk iV over the rest . And why I sold my 1 mk ii ….your videos are very detailed and informative, great job

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for sharing your experience. The em10.4 is a nice camera and very compact with the kit lenses.

[@davebellamy4867]

10 mark ii is wonderful for stills photography and it's magnesium alloy too.

[@bakermantube]

Very good video Rob! I am not looking for a new camera, because I am still happy with my Pen F, but It is so interesting to listen to your informations & tipps. But the EM 1 Mk.III is so often on my mind and maybe my next upgrade...🤔

[@RobTrek]

I still take my PenF out over the e-m1iii. It just begs to be taken out for fun photo walks. Maybe even skip the e-m1 iii and see what JIP will offer.

[@Tsagos]

great video, thanks. When you comparing m1ii vs m1 iii and you show batteries tripod and filter it seems as a better choice, but think about carrying all those plus lenses... You are paying for convinience + abilities also

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. That's pretty much it. The ibis in the m1 iii is much better which allows for the other additional features. Worth it for some, not others.

[@andymuzzo8568]

Awesome. You answered my question. I’m looking to upgrade my E-M5 Mk1

[@RobTrek]

Glad to help!

[@larryhayes3040]

Rob, an extremely practical and helpful video.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Larry. Good to see you in the stream today!

[@RTFM70]

Really good comparison Rob. It will be a great help to anyone buying an Olympus EM for the first time or upgrading to a higher spec model. Thanks a lot 👍

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Jeff. That's what I tried to do.

[@davebellamy4867]

Another great comparison.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks again!

[@SergioGVasco]

Wonderful video. You've helped a lot informing in such a clear and realistic way. Thank you for your insight. Take care out there.

[@RobTrek]

Thank you! You too!

[@gilbertwalker6769]

Great video, Rob! Thanks for the helpful comparison!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Gilbert!

[@marklaurendet1861]

A nice comparison The things that sold the EM1.3 to me over the EM1.2 were My Menu, Joy Stick, Dedicated ISO button & improved IBIS. The other modes may be nice but I doubt I will use them for what I do. I am also starting to try the focus stacking and not sure if the mark 2 has 8 or 15 shots to stack. I wish they made the settings backup to a SD card instead of a phone for the Mark 3

[@bobfitzy6236]

Mark ii focus stacks 8 shots.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. I should use the mymenu. Getting to like the joystick, but wasn't a fan at first. IBIS is awesome.

[@evenhandedcommentor6102]

I have the E-M1 mk2...but I just picked up a E-M1x. I wanted that bird detection autofocus...plus I got a deal on the camera ($1,450). The lens I use the most is the 300mm F/4 pro...and most often with a teleconverter! So, even with the EM1 mk2, I had the battery grip to better balance the camera rig. But, a disadvantage for the Oly battery grips is that one battery stays in the camera and is not as easily accessed...you have to take the grip off to get at it. With the E-M1x, both batteries are easy to get at. And the sealing is bound to be better than between a grip and the camera on the Mk 2 and 3...or the Mk 1 for that matter. With your price comparison between the EM1 Mk 2 vs Mk 3, if you are getting batteries and a tripod and filters with both...then you should ask yourself whether the Mk 3 is $500 better than the Mk 2. I decided it wasn't. But when the bird detection showed up for the EM1x...and I got a great price...less than that for a Mk 3 plus battery grip, well....couldn't resist.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Good point about the batteries. I don't own the em1x so missed a lot of those finer details you and others have mentioned.

[@whyFINAL]

just bought em10 mk3s with kit/prime 45 and 3 batteries for price of a body. So far im exited!

[@RobTrek]

It's a great camera! Enjoy.

[@jmoffitt36]

I like using old lens and it’s just something about OMD m43. IDK if it’s the sensor size or the IS. Recently I picked up a Nikon 2.8 180mm ED prime manual lens with excellent optics/mechanics for well under $200. I’m speechless how good the lens is. It’s a little on the heavy side but worth it. Even works great on my em5 mk1 thats my beater and starting to get tired.

[@bobfinlay7417]

Excellent comparison and overview of these cameras. I am moving from an original OM-D E-M1 to the E-M1mIII and the enhancements and improvements are amazing. Looking forward to trying the new features. Your videos are always helpful. Thanks. Perhaps one day there will be a Pen-FmII to add to the list :-)

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. Yes, PenF II would be great!

[@jotasantos4931]

Merry Christmas and happy New Year

[@RobTrek]

Same to you! Merry Christmas!

[@Himlovesrunning]

Thorough review!! Brilliant thanks 🙏🏻

[@RobTrek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Fats051]

Great video! Perfect and very useful comparison, thank you.

[@RobTrek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@1957PLATO]

Great video and sound advice as ever. You rock, Sir.

[@RobTrek]

I appreciate that!

[@blo5980]

Great video as usual! One thing em1x do a better job than other camera is that you can assign custom mode to any of its functions buttons. It make switching between custom mode much faster and reliable(than turning the mode dial). It make instant switching between those advance modes (i.e. Pro. Cap, live nd,HHHR) possible.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. Didn't know that about the em1x. It's a feature on the em10ii and em5ii, but sadly missing off the em1's.

[@AlexRamosDrTaz]

Right now, for me... 1) E-M5 III or 2) E-M1 III. I like the 5 as it's not much larger than a 10, is weather sealed, and has capability for some action shooting via PDAF. I like the 1 for handheld high res shooting, more rugged build and even better low light capability, as good as that gets in the m43 dept anyhow.

[@RobTrek]

I really love my e-m5 III as well! Thanks.

[@KyleGustafson1986]

Excellent video. Thanks

[@RobTrek]

You are welcome!

[@wickie4801]

Very good comparison & recommendation! So you made much good advices over the time. I have one for you: The best travel tripod I know. It is the TINK TEEK WING. Pros are stable, well processed, solid, well thought through, lightweight, small... Cons: about 1,34 meters height, in some cases it's a little bit tricky to handle in floor positions. I own it since black friday from Amazon - being very satisfied. It is a great Price-performance ratio. Kind regards, Chris

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Chris. I don't see it available on amazon.com, but it looks like a nice tripod.

[@wickie4801]

Yes it is sold out at German Amazon. There are some KZbin videos about. Could be that it is only available in our country for now. Similiar as the Canon M 50 II in USA.

[@emarshallp]

Great video as always! Thanks a Lot!

[@RobTrek]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@magnusfahlstrom3262]

Thanks for another killer video Rob 👍 I'd used and loved my e-m1 mkii for about a year and a half when the mk iii came out, and if they'd implemented new sensor technology I would have bought one, but...hmmm... You mentioned the autofocus has been improved, and I know it's subjective, but would you say there's a blg difference (yeah, it's subjective 😅 )

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. Really only the face detect is better. Yes, it's much improved.

[@Stranded360]

I went with the em1 mark ii- upgrading from the panasonic g5, hopefully it will work well for me despite being an older camera. (was cheaper than the em5 iii and the em1 iii was too expensive for me)

[@RobTrek]

Great upgrade!

[@ridealongwithrandy]

Amazing stuff Rob!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Randy!

[@kennethlee1977]

one 20mp camera. The PenF. I regret selling because of this pandemic. Thou not an OMD lineup. She was beautiful

[@RobTrek]

Ouch! You'll have to get another one if you can find a good deal. The PenF is holding it's value somehow.

[@kennethlee1977]

@@RobTrek when things stabilize. surely i will. I had the all black one but really wanted the silver and black.

[@keithmoorechannel]

I went with the E-M5 MarkIII. Big problem as the body is under engineered. Many of these bodies have broken at the tripod socket screw area. They fixed it with the E-M10. I broke my E-M5 body and still waiting for OM Systems to help me.

[@RobTrek]

I use a generic grip with full bottom plate to reinforce the tripod mount.

[@garybrown9719]

I have the em1x I'm thinking of getting the em1 markii for a light setup Is the stary eye worth it Em10 and em5 batteries are too small

[@RobTrek]

The E-M1 Mark III has stary AF, not the E-M1 Mark II. If you do astrophotography regularly, I'd seriously consider getting it. Otherwise, it's not terribly difficult to manually focus. I was out last night and the Starry AF worked great! It's a pain manually focusing when my eyes aren't what they used to be.

[@rinusworldzm]

Great video. Is there any olympus camera that doesn't have the 30minute recording limit?

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. OM Systems OM-1 and OM-5.

[@gerrymac5865]

Hi Rob, enjoyed your review on the OM cameras Should I upgrade my OM-D 10 Mkiii to the 20mp OM-D 10 MK iv I like the flip down screen. Gerry

[@RobTrek]

I would step up to the e-m5 mark iii with the 14-150mm kit lens. That would be a much more substantial upgrade. Yes, double the price of the e-m10 iv, but money well spent. If you can sell the em10 iii, then I think it makes sense to maybe get the em10 iv.

[@bobfitzy6236]

Hi Robin, thanks for another great video. I've just upgraded my Panasonic Fz330 24-600 zoom for the OM-D e-m1 mark ii with 12-40 and 40-150 pro's in a Good Friday deal. I was considering the E-M5 Mark III but I have massive hands and am used to zooming and your comments re price/handling made previously helped me to take the leap. I like a compact system so M43 was as far as I wanted to go. First impressions... It is as comfortable to hold and has a menu system that isn't as bad as feared. I'm getting a lot of overexposed shots (I shoot outdoors on the moors in UK with high contrast scenes between rocky tors and skies). I've used your settings re exposure etc but many are too bright even though I wind back all the highlight warnings. I also shoot jpeg. Is it worth adjusting the tone curves? I might get the 1.4 converter at some time as I do some wildlife and the occasional airshow. Bob

[@RobTrek]

Hi. I've noticed in esp metering, it tends to overexpose about 1/3 stop vs my other cameras. Don't mess with the individual tone curves yet. First take a few test shots of various scenes with your current settings. Then go into menu E3 -> Exposure Shift -> -2/6. Then in the super control panel, change the gradation from "normal" to "Auto". Take the same shots again with these new settings. Simply adjust to taste from there. The exposure shift is obvious I think, but the "Auto" gradation basically brings up the shadows. You can change it back to "Normal" and see if you like that better. Note that exposure shift will affect both raw and jpg files, but gradation only affects jpg. Let me know if that helps. -Rob

[@bobfitzy6236]

@@RobTrek Thanks Rob, I'll give those a go.

[@raytbrown2]

Thank you!

[@RobTrek]

Welcome!

[@robertcudlipp485]

After having watched this video, and being unable to afford the new OM1, I purchased a new E OMD Mk IV. I was very surprised, see below, that the camera did not ship with a dedicated charger- more on that below. I have posted my questions on Rob's site, however many may take the view that the questions/issues raised should be posted on a more global generic type OMD/OMS site, if so , could they please provide the relevant link/s? The camera only shipped with the most basic of manuals, only 3/4 pages or so advising of the SD card to use and the battery, which quite annoyingly is not the same as the batteries used in my 2 Pen Fs, on the + was the fact that the battery was fully charged and still has some charge remaining after a good deal of use. How do you charge the battery ? In camera I assume. Given the provision of 2 power cords, I simply joined them and plugged the end with the power prongs into the wall. However, after leaving the battery ( so I thought) charging for some 4 hours, when inspected, there was no increase in the charge level. My notebook is quite old, but has a fast SSD hard drive and 32mg of memory. It is not possible to upgrade the USB ports to USB C ports or a more modern USB than shipped with the camera. Can the wise advise how I can charge the sole battery I have? Shortly, the camera will not be operating at all !!! So far as the manual is concerned, will search the net and it may well be that the manual is available online at OMS Australia/Oceana? I spent an afternoon playing around with the Menu system, which was , at a basic level, similar to that of my Pen F's. However, given my default method of shooting is in Aperture priority, this was going along well enough, until I must have activated some bizarre combination of buttons. The end result is that I cannot take an image in A, without the camera spending a further 20 seconds or so, very deliberately using the noise reduction system! Have never seen this before. Went into the Menu and, so far as I could tell, removed all actions which may have enabled the noise reduction - taking 20-30 seconds after each shot- to finish. All that was left was a totally bland/bright white file which was deleted. Can anyone please tell me how to deactivate the bizarre combination of buttons I have inadvertently activated to have this mega noise reduction process take over the camera ??? When purchasing the camera, I also purchased one of the latest Sony SD 64 gb "" speed demon cards"- not at all cheap, but the camera can read to them so quickly. This OMD takes a burst of images far more quickly than my Pen F's. All my Pen Fs have been set to take all 3 types of images at once. The simple reason is that, while I do not presently have L.R. , C1 etc., I may in the future, and so wanted to capture RAW files, as well as in the Pen F ,in particular, the SF jpgs. This selection has caused the Pen Fs to have an unbelievably slow burst rate, and spend some time reading to the SD cards ( Scandisk 170 gb). The OMD Mk IV is an absolute speed demon by comparison. I look forward to any answers and , as outlined above , referrals to more appropriate sites. Also, I have no doubt that Rob has created detailed videos on how to set up this camera. I have done some basics, going on the great Pen F series he put out some time ago. Could anyone who may know, just advise of the YT video number/s and I will look them up. I have Zoom work commitments for the next working day and will then head to the net to undertake these searches myself. Thanks in advance to all those who have read this long winded post, and of course to those who have responded.

[@RobTrek]

Hi, Robert. As for charging, it seems like something may be defective in the chain of power. Make sure all cables are securely connected. In particular - It's possible you didn't push the cable from the wall into the AC Adapter far enough. If it's secure, either one of the cables or the USB AC Adaptor is defective. Now try plugging your cellphone (or other usb powered device) via it's provided usb cable into the Olympus USB AC adapter. That device should now be charging. If not, then the USB AC adaptor or it's cable maybe defective. Try to plug your provided usb cable that plugs into to the camera into a different usb power supply. This could be another USB AC adaptor - commonly used by cellphones, or try plugging it into your computer's USB -A port. You should see the led light on the lower right back of the camera illuminate to indicate the battery in the camera is charging. If not, try using a different Micro-USB to USB-A cable. If the camera is still not charging, then it's possible the camera itself may have a defect. Ultimately, I recommend you get a separate battery charger. Any third party charger will work. Here is one that should be fine: amzn.to/3JtvTwe # affiliate link As for the noise reduction, double check menu D1 and make sure Noise Reduction is turned off. If it is off, then you next step is to try resetting the camera. First try a basic reset, then go in and turn off Noise Reduction. If that doesn't work, do a full reset, then turn off Noise Reduction. Reset options are in Shooting Menu #1. Note that Noise Reduction is different than the Noise Filter. Noise Reduction has the option "AUTO,On,Off". Noise Filter has the options "Off, Low, Med, Hi". Hope that helps. Please keep me posted.

[@robertcudlipp3426]

@@RobTrek Rob, many thanks for your speedy and detailed response. Having watched so many of your videos, I simply did a basic reset and that removed the bizarre, mega lengthy noise reduction in camera process. Have noted your comments on recharging and will follow. More than a little surprised that a charger was not included, though v happily surpassed the supplied battery was fully charged. This camera appears to shoot far more quickly than my lovely 2 Pen Fs. Thanks again.

[@MichaelGerrard]

Out of them all, I feel the E-M5 III is the most balanced camera, especially for enthusiasts. It has all the traits of a true M43 camera in that it is small and portable yet powerful. Unfortunately I can't bring myself to buy one because it is not a big enough upgrade to my existing camera, the Lumix GX80. If Olympus would price the E-M5 III as they do the E-M10 IV, then I would be tempted. I feel this is the problem with slowing camera sales these days, the new features are no longer leaps, more like small steps. The prices are still high though. The E-M10 IV is much too high for what it is when compared to the competition. It has no new features either. They even took away features like the custom sets! Crippling models to fit the line up is not the way to go. I hope JIP will reverse this and add custom sets to the E-M10 IV firmware for example.

[@RobTrek]

Yeah, they really needlessly removed features from the em10 line. The gx80 is pretty awesome, especially for the money. The only reason I see you needing an em5iii is maybe if you get into video. Other than that, the gx80 pretty much has you covered.

[@lkaufman719]

Well done, excellent, and timely comparison. Really helpful. Thanks. BTW--is a there a way to save all the settings in the EM5 III prior to doing a firmware update? Thanks again.

[@RobTrek]

Not that I know of. Olympus removed that feature and tethering from the Mark III.

[@giuseppethesantis]

Thanks for this useful video! Do You think Is it worth to upgrade an em5 MkII to a used Mk III to with a good price?

[@RobTrek]

If you need 4k video, then yes. Otherwise the image quality and photo capability is about the same. You'd need to jump to the EM1.3 or OM-1 for a significant upgrade in features and AF.

[@giuseppethesantis]

@@RobTrek Thanks! But The Phase detection af, the 4mpx more and the new true pic generation hardware aren't a good improvement above the mkII?

[@seyedmahdiamiri4924]

Hi Rob, I already own an EM10 Mark II and am thinking of upgrading. I do street photography and portraits of family and friends.... but I want to take some more serious photos and probably work as a photographer besides my main job. I am wavering between the EM1 Mark III and the EM5 Mark III. On the one hand, the EM1 Mark III offers even more professional features, on the other hand, I like the look of the EM5 Mark III !!! It is very difficult for me to make a decision. Or should I wait a bit longer, maybe OMDS will launch a new camera in 2022! What do you think Rob?

[@RobTrek]

I would wait to see the new camera. Your E-M10ii is already excellent and there is no need to rush. If you had to pick right now, get the E-M1iii.

[@robertr5768]

Hi Rob, thanks for your review and opinion. I have one question : what do you think about the Olympus future? I mean that actually Olympus camera is became OM System, soon the new factory will announcevthe new camera OM 5, but the true is that we have a very old sensor (20mb) maybe in a new body with some new features, but for my opinion nothing new compare with The older models. Thanks in Advance for the answer. Roby from Italy ( I have a old omd 10 mark II 😅🙋🏽‍♂️)

[@RobTrek]

I believe the OM5 is supposed to get the new 20mp sensor that is in the OM1. Of course we can not predict the future, but I believe OM System is doing everything it can to become successful. I think for photography, the new OM cameras will continue to offer what m4/3 is best at. Small, light, durable cameras with great image quality. I'd like to see new features that no other camera system offers. This is something Olympus did very well in the past. Also, I'd like to see improvements for videographers in terms of workflow with new features and additional video options like 4k 120 and 422 color. For now, I'm very happy with my system and lenses.

[@ScottPaton]

The flip screen on my em5 mark 2 fell off. The screws got loose. There is one wire connecting it to the camera. When I turn on the camera, no image on the creed.I can take photos using the eye viewer. Do I have to send to Olympus to fix? Or can local camera repairmen do the job?

[@RobTrek]

If it's still under warranty, then Olympus. If not, check with the local guy and see if he/she can do it. A used e-m5-ii is $400 or less right now, so asking Olympus to repair may not be worth it.

[@ScottPaton]

I watched this video of yours because I am thinking of upgrading. The place I bought it at thought it would cost $200-$300 plus shipping. So you answered my question!

[@ScottPaton]

@@RobTrek subscribed and Liked 😊😊📷📷

[@WparuSlowach]

Very useful video. Thank you. However how they compare vs Fujifilm XS10?

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. I'm not that familiar with the XS10. However, I do have a Fuji X-T30 which is probably very similar. It's also a very nice camera but I still prefer my Olympus cameras.

[@steveworthington930]

Some people prefer the 16mp to 20mp image,s, any feedback on that Rob? Maybe the later image processor? I can,t compare, have the EM1 and PEN EPL5, both 16MP.

[@RobTrek]

I can't think of any reason to prefer 16mp over 20mp. Noise performance is similar if not better on the 20mp because of the new processing and other electronics. For really long exposures like in astrophotography, the em-1 mark III is superior to the em-1 mark II and all 16mp varieties. The em1-x is even better due to the dual heat pipes. You get slightly better cropping ability with the 20mp.

[@steveworthington930]

@@RobTrek Thank you for taking the time to reply Rob, as a UK pensioner, canni afford better than the EM1, makes great images, extra 4 MP, not sure? And cost, would rather save for pro glass.

[@RobTrek]

@@steveworthington930 Yeah, no need to upgrade your camera at this point. Image quality is virtually the same. Honestly, you could probably stick to non-pro glass as well. I rarely use my 12-40 pro. The non-pro 25, 45, & 75 are great lenses.

[@steveworthington930]

@@RobTrek Have the 45mm for portrait,s but need a weather sealed lens for landscape. Cheapest is the 12-50mm, an old lens but heard good report,s from user,s.

[@alamin-fr8rc]

Hi Rob, rational, common sense advice as usual. I have the EM10 mk 2 and it became clear that the EM5 mk 3 was a logical upgrade. I was keenly looking for a deal when a recent sale price came up on the OMD 1 mk 3 put it within $250 of the EM5 3. It’s constantly touted as a pro camera and I get that but $250 for what looks like a massive upgrade was hard to pass up. Haven’t received it and can return it. is the additional weight and size a make or break for travel photography? Your thoughts please. Thank you!

[@RobTrek]

It's very subjective as to what is travel friendly, but the overall system is compact when you include the lenses. The upgrades in the EM1.3 far outweigh the compromise in body size. I wouldn't hesitate for the em1.3 in this case.

[@AriDimitris]

Is there a newer version of the recommendations for 2023-2024?

[@RobTrek]

I haven't made another video but I'd replace the E-M5 III with the newer OM-5 and E-M1 III with the OM-1 as recommendations.

[@mikes4408]

I purchased an om-d 10 mII in March and just got the new 100-400 lens. I'm hoping for Xmas to trade the OM-D 10 body For a new E1 MII body. I'm assuming I can use the same kit lens from my Om 10.

[@RobTrek]

Yes, all lenses from the em10 will work on the em1.

[@musicsoundgear]

Great video

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@sunnybizz4857]

Question: Someone did a really good comparison between the Olympus High Rez mode vs Topaz hi-rez software. The results were very similar with a slight preference to Topaz. But what I'm really interested in is the result of using the Topaz hi-rez on an Olympus captured High Rez shot. In theory the Olympus High Rez is from actual data, so it should stand up to further processing with Topaz. Am I right? Knowing the results would help me decide between continuing on with Olympus 20mp bodies, vs an expensive upgrade to a 40 or 45 mpx full frame.

[@RobTrek]

I think your logic here is sound but unfortunately I don't have Topaz to test this for you. Maybe check in with Peter Forsgard and see if he can check for you.

[@kornasteniker3939]

Hi Rob! Excellent Comparison! Only thing I don't like that much on the e-m1 models is the less tactile shutter release button. I was struggling with the half press a lot when testing one. Originally wanted to upgrade from the e-m5 II but now thinking of switching to an e-m5 III + grip because of that. Do you know if you are able to have different settings for the grip dial and the front dial of the camera on the e-m5 III? On the e-m5 II it's not possible sadly.

[@RobTrek]

I honestly don't know since I use a simple 3rd party grip. Maybe check with Peter, he uses it.

[@illonggoako1372]

For moonlight lowlight photography?

[@RobTrek]

All of these perform about the same in low light. Moonlight would be tough for any camera so your best bet is to do a long exposure or use a flash.

[@sadeqsegaraga8766]

Can the em10 mark 2/3/4 use external mic input if L-bracket attached?

[@RobTrek]

Unfortunately there is no mic jack on the EM10 series.

[@bosamuelsson5814]

I have m1 mark II and fort travel, m10 markIV. For traveling. I use m10 and 12-40mm f2, 8; 40- 150 with 1, 4 ggr and a primerns, panasonic 25mm F1,7. In a6l shoulderbag. Weigt 1,9 kg. I travel in Chile under 3 month and not have problem and miss snytning with this genar.

[@RobTrek]

Nice setup. Thanks for sharing!

[@DeMorcan]

Where is the lens list you show? Thank you.

[@RobTrek]

Here you go! www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

[@DeMorcan]

@@RobTrek Thank you. I wanted the manual choices all together that way.

[@kaushaltiwari9773]

Dear Rob. Thanks for all the videos. I have really enjoyed your videos on EM10 mk2. I have the 25mm f1.8 on it. I am looking to invest in a good zoom and one more prime. I am thinking about the 12 to 40 and 40 to 150 pro. I am looking at an EM1 MK2. Fits my budget. How would it be for the next five years? Can i expect a newer body from Olympus in the next fove years? Is it wise to invest in the system if no newer bodies are going to be released by Oly? I love the form factor of the whole kit. I also need the camera to do well in most day to day scenario. Especially, nailing shots of my 15 month old running around. Will appreciate your input. Thanks.

[@RobTrek]

Hi. If you really like the E-M1ii, then I can highly recommend it. I wouldn't worry about any future cameras since m4/3 is already a very mature system with tons of selection. I still buy cameras that are 10-20 years old and enjoy them.

[@everydaygrandad5642]

Hi great videos Have a PEN Lite E -PL5 since 2014 what do recommend as upgrade Can get em1 mk11 £50.00 cheaper than em5 mk111 can’t decide Will be used by enthusiast

[@RobTrek]

I have another video comparing those two cameras directly. Basically if you want to stay small and light then go with the em5-iii. Go with the e-m1ii if you use larger lenses, need pro features like dual card slots and tethering, and want better build quality. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJyXhZKpZ8akoKc

[@royjenkins-packer173]

Not long brought Em1x, As I always buy the extra grips with camera, the built in on 1x with the weather sealing and now the bird detection, plus the olympus black friday offers, it was my up grade and retirement camera. Also the 300mm f4 lens.

[@tomerweiss4900]

agree did the same for 100-400 and Ordered EM1X.

[@RobTrek]

Congrats on the em1x. Still a bit too large for me, but excellent camera. Should last you a lifetime.

[@carocaro7935]

Hello i'm french. I come from Canon (650d) and im so lost in the settings. The photos that i've taken are not good quality (not blurr but in a poor quality. Ive tried to calibrate it with yours settings but... Ive taken the photos with the 14-42. Help me.. 😢

[@tizio54]

Check first that the camera is saving pictures in the highest resolution (Large Superfine). Factory default is lower quality, I believe. Also, make sure that the digital teleconverter is switched off.

[@RobTrek]

Hi. You can email me some examples and I can take a look to see what may be wrong. Thanks. [e-mail]

[@garymorgan8945]

Hi Rob, I follow you on youtube and love your output. I wanted to pick your brains. I am an enthusiastic landscape photographer hobbyist and have a Nikon d800e with 3 lenses, all of which are quite heavy to lug up mountains when I'm hiking. So I'm considering changing to mft and am unsure of the benefits of the Olympus om-d e-m1 over the e-m5. Any advice?

[@RobTrek]

I think you'll enjoy the e-m1 mark iii over the e-m5 mark iii for landscapes. The e-m1 offers handheld hi-res shot and live-nd filter. This will come in handy for those days you don't bring a tripod or physical nd filters. Also, the image stabilization is superior by at least 1 stop. Finally, the battery life is way better in the e-m1. I think you'll enjoy the handling of the em1 with it's deeper grip and better button layout. So imagine going out without a tripod, filters, extra batteries, etc... The d800e is an amazing camera and will give you better image quality if you pixel peep or need to recover cleaner shadows, but I'm assuming your photography skillset in exposure, bracketing, post processing, etc... will overcome any shortcomings you get with m4/3.

[@garymorgan8945]

@@RobTrek hi Rob, many thanks for your speedy reply. I kinda was coming to that conclusion so it's really helpful to have your thoughts and views. Keep up the excellent vlogs. Many thanks, Gary

[@AriDimitris]

Is there a way to speak to you directly?

[@RobTrek]

Sure. Just email me rob at robtrek dot com and I will be happy to setup a live video chat.

[@JmartiStudio]

The difference is a lot, 16 mb to 20 mb, can you tell me?

[@RobTrek]

Not much difference. 16 is as good as 20 99% of the time.

[@ScottPaton]

Do you think an update of em1 mark2 is coming in 2021?

[@arjdroid]

The E-M1 Mark iii has already come out

[@kornasteniker3939]

He probably meant a firmware update, am I right @Scott Paton?

[@EscapeToMexicoNow]

@@kornasteniker3939 Rob said something about a camera coming out in 2016 or 2017. I thought he meant the E-M1 Mark iii, but I wrote Mark ii. I get all the E-M's and Mark's mixed up... I wish they called them all something completely different like the "Thor Hammer ii' and the 'Captain America Shield iii' or "Hopeless beginner iii", "Sort of know what they are doing iii", and "Super Pro Expert ii" LOL

[@RobTrek]

Hard to say on firmware.

[@gamingwithstand6886]

Hey Rob can you do a video S1 vs M43 with DXO PhotoLab 4?

[@RobTrek]

I've done some S5 vs E-M1 III videos but don't own DXO. Thanks.

[@gamingwithstand6886]

@@RobTrek You get a 30 day trial if you downloaad DXO PhotoLab 4. Its worth checking out.

[@AdamFavre]

It also offers faster autofocus on the Mkiii over the mkii. It seems quicker

[@RobTrek]

It probably is, though I can't measure it scientifically. I know the face detect is much better.

[@JulesMoyaert_photo]

As usual: 👍👍👍 🙏

[@RobTrek]

Thank you.

[@john_harvey3]

Dang...EM-1 MKII or go full out with the MKIII ...decisions decisions....

[@RobTrek]

Hi. Sorry I missed this question during the stream. I think you were asking about for landscape photos. If you plan on using a tripod most of the time, then the e-m1 mark ii will be fine. However, the e-m1iii is really amazing handheld. The ibis is much better and the hand held hi res is great. Also the live nd makes easy work of doing water falls and such. I also like the joystick for af now. You will still want to get a tripod if you don't have one already, but the em1-iii will get you shots you wouldn't normally be able to do without one.

[@john_harvey3]

@@RobTrek it's all good. I didn't post this question until later. I'm really torn between the 2, the idea is to not have to tote a tripod everywhere, that's why I'm leaning towards the MKIII.

[@charleshill506]

I know this is an old video but, is anyone else bummed out that regular 4/3 lens work only in manual focus mode. WTF is up with that? I started with the 510 and bought many lens. (Yes I'm a lens horder) Then updated to the OMD m2 which uses the 4/3 lens perfectly with the adapter. (nearly went broke buying adapters for all the lenses) Now I notice that the mk4 won't autofocus with them. Can anyone show me otherwise?

[@RobTrek]

Hi, Charles. I've not used the 4/3 lenses on my m4/3, as I don't have the official adapter. You may want to ask over at mu-43.com forum. It's a great community and can probably help.

[@kentaforever1226]

Fantastic video, sunday ma oly em 10 mii is dead, i have a big problem to is 1 stabilizazion and the camera does not scwitch on…so now i have to buy a new camera….i have 5 battery…one original and 4 not….and i am looking to em 10 mark IV on italian Amazon at 639 euro, em 5 miii at 969 euro with 45 mm, or em 1 m iii at 1389 euro….bit i will loose batteries that i have….all news…. Your video will me Help me…all camera hai pro and contro…The first 2 are small…maybe too small….The last expensive….i have to think

[@RobTrek]

It's hard to decide sometimes. You can use all your batteries with the em5-iii.

[@kentaforever1226]

@@RobTrek Yesterday i have seen g9 ...to big...em 5 miii...nice...and when i have seen em1 miii...It was love in First Moment.....

[@hotclubofthemountains3591]

Isnt Olympus getting out of the camera market?

[@RobTrek]

For the most part. They still have a 5% stake in the new company taking over.

[@JuliusJanulis]

sensor is not the same in 10m4 as at flagship cameras. 20.3MP vs 20.4MP

[@RobTrek]

Most likely they have different part numbers but the core characteristics of the sensors will be the same to match the image processing chip. The only publicly know part number I found is for the E-M1 Mark II which uses the Sony IMX 270. It's never been clear to me whether they mean total pixels, active pixels, or effective pixels when they give specs. The final image size is still 5184 x 3888

[@JuliusJanulis]

@@RobTrek but..if you compare data on dxomark sensor database, you notice that Pen-F with 20.3MP sensor show different ISO value compered the 20.4MP em1m2 sensor (according Peter Gregg column Sports it's ISO performance) and it's almost the same value as the 16.1MP sensor

[@JuliusJanulis]

I'm not arguing, it's just a discussion.

[@RobTrek]

​@@JuliusJanulis That makes sense. The Penf uses a 20mp contrast detect sensor, so it could be the same one in the em10 iv. Will be interesting to see if the trupic viii processor will improve the iso performance over the penf trupic vii if dxo ever tests. Thank. :)