OM SYSTEM OM-5 - My First Month Experience

[@MalcolmSales]

What a lovely statement of common sense! “Don’t buy the latest new camera unless it has a feature you really need - instead spend the money on a new lens or better still a trip to take photos” 😊😊

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks. In many cases those things I mention is a better choice than buying a new camera.

[@jobomumpiz]

I got my om5 four weeks ago as replacement for the omd-em5.2 and it's worth every cent! Would love better custom mode handling. The camera fulfills my two top priorities: weather sealing and weight, putting it in the sweet spot. And it is a beauty, although I preferred the touch of metal body of the em5 ... but that's a first world problem

[@Animatedron]

I''ve been on the look out for a new camera this year and the OM-5 has been at the top of my list so far. Just looks like the best bang for buck out there.

[@StephenEscallier]

I switched from a a Sony A7C with 3 Tamron Lenses as my main camera to an OM-5 with the 12-45 F4, 40-150F4 and the 60mm macro and I couldn’t be happier. Vastly more fun to shoot with and the size is incredible.

[@lukemcgovern6]

Thanks for the very informative review 👍 I recently bought a OM 5 and 12-45 F4 for 1 year backpacking. The size, weather sealing , IBIS and computational features just suit my needs perfectly. Can't wait for it to arrive and go out and shoot with it 😁

[@ForsgardPeter]

Congrats! It is a good combo!

[@paolopicchel653]

The big part of photography is to have fun:no other words are not necessary 😏 Many thanks Peter.

[@petegleeson1]

I bought the OM5 as there were enough improvements from my em-m 5 mkii. Despite moaning about the change of materials I don’t miss the magnesium alloy and I actually like that they stuck to the old menu as I was familiar with it. It’s a lovely camera and it works for me, so thank you for your reviews and thoughts

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks.

[@johncourt6434]

Just brought the OM-5 after years of Canon DSLR use. Can't get over the light weight and features within the OM-5. This together with the 14-150mm lens will be my travel camera from now on.

[@franckkheddache6731]

Bonjour Peter. Merci pour cette réflexion constructive !!! A bientôt !!!

[@rickthomas9894]

Hi Peter! I bought my first EM5 while on an 8 month assignment in Southern Italy in 2015. Perfect travel camera for me. I upgraded to EM5 MIII in August of '22. I mostly shoot with the 20m 1.4 I'm a happy camper. Sitting tight for awhile.

[@angeloplayforone]

Great video and your advice about upgrading is the right one.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@davidblack2632]

I own both the OM-1 and the OM-5. The OM-1 is my serious camera, while the OM-5 is my fun camera. The OM-1 is my wildlife camera, while the OM-5 is my family outing camera. The few things I would like improved in the OM-5 is an AF joystick where the menu button is located. Then move the menu button to the upper left corner like the OM-1. Muscle Memory when changing between the two cameras. I would also like the OM-5 to have USB-C PD. Having the updated menu would be a bonus. Great video and I agree with your points .

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks, I agree with you.

[@daryljohnson9010]

30 fps on the street is mighty, mighty handy, especially in the rains of the Pacific Northwest. Same with the electronic ND filter.

[@serebrenikovvadim]

I love ECG-5. This device plus OM-5 is enjoying to photography!

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Great value for your money 💰! Excellent video 😮!

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks.

[@toke7560]

Its an awesome camera. Especially with the olympus grip.

[@gocekuzman.4037]

Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud! This camera got so much heat when it came out, and the only thing I agreed with was the lack of USB-C, but that is not a deal breaker. You said what I said, it's for those with the older EM10/5 that are looking for the latest without stepping into the EM-1.3 or OM-1. As an EM-5.3 owner, I'm not running to upgrade, but if something happens to my camera, I'll be upgrading to the OM-5. So many people focus on the spec sheet that they forget to go out and take pictures.

[@ZakWilson]

I think a lot of the disappointment was driven by the similarity to the E-M5.3. The OM-1 set expectations for a new body with a new menu system and new sensor. Instead, the OM-5 didn't even get a modern USB port, giving the sense that it could have been a firmware update rather than a new model. That doesn't make it a bad camera, just an underwhelming update.

[@gocekuzman.4037]

@@ZakWilson IIRC, the processor and IBIS was the limiting factor in getting those new features put in. Updating the menus to be closer to the OM-1 would have made perfect sense. I get what you're saying, it wasn't a huge step forward, but it's no bigger of an upgrade than comparing the EM-1.3 vs the EM1.2. The discussions I see now regarding people purchasing the OM-5 vs the EM-5.3 is literally the same discussion people are having when cross-referencing EM1.3 vs EM1.2. This camera isn't for those who have the EM5.3, it's for people who own older or lower level M43 cameras looking to upgrade, or someone who wants to dip their toes into a compact system but doesn't want to shell out for the flagship.

[@maratbabayan9332]

@@gocekuzman.4037 Which purpose for they made om-5 if em5.3 is still here? I think they had to put em1.3 into smaller em5.3 body, change the battery, add usbC and only after that call it om-5. That would be the really perfect camera for those who don't want to pay more for om-1 but want a really good camera. At the moment for 95% of users OM-5 looks like a rebranded em5.3. in my opinion that's not good for OM system reputation. I really moved to Sony not becouse OM cameras were bad, but due to I didn't want to invest in OM system. I don't believe in OM System like I believed in Olympus.

[@25palex]

@@ZakWilson true

[@bowstobourbon]

trying to decide between the om-5, x-h2 and the xt-5. I really like the lens sizes and weatherproofing. I started with film to a e-500 to d500. Thanks!

[@ForsgardPeter]

All good cameras. It comes down to the need. What do you need the camera for? OM-5 and X-T5 are both great for street and all around cameras. X-H2 is I believe slightly bigger. If you need megapixels the Fuji is the way to go. If you need a smaller camera then OM-5 is a good choice.

[@bowstobourbon]

Great thank you. I currently have a d500 and looking for a smaller all around travel camera. I also considered the om-1 for the metal construction and dual cards. I do really like the smaller form factor and started on a e500 in the early 2000’s. Thanks!

[@swavess]

just get an xt5, it is an amazing hybrid for video and photo and will definitely be a lot more future proof than the om-5

[@CarlosJaimes-kf9dd]

​@@swavessthe xt5 is $1700 new and the OM-5 is on sale right now for $999

[@jba3005]

@@bowstobourbonSi sirve de ayuda, yo compré la om5 y me arrepiento de no comprar la om 1. La OM 1 solo pesa 185 gr más y es mucho mejor. El agarre de la OM 5 es realmente malo y si la montas un zoom es bastante incómoda por lo descompensado que queda el conjunto. El visor de la OM 5 es otro punto en contra, es de baja resolución y no es bueno, no da detalle ni nitidez, el contraste muy pobre y cuando disparas se queda en negro. Esto es especialmente malo cuando haces ráfagas. Esto no pasa en la OM 1 que tiene infinitamente mejor agarre , visor, y mejor calidad de imagen. Estoy planteándome el venderla. Un saludo.

[@manueldurer3177]

Hi Peter Thx for your Experience. in your first Impression Video i send a comment with my Negative Opinion about the small upgrade specs between EM5 Mark III and OM5. My Biggest negative point was the old Sensor. but finaly i Bought an OM5. my EM5 now has a lot of scratches on the display and the case from my hikes and climbing. My Menu and the better autofocus thanks to the stronger processor and the better AF algorithm was my biggest points and both works great. From time to time i use the Live ND Mode, Starry SKY AF and the Handheld High Res Mode. Although I was hoping for more updates, I really like my OM5. I understand when poeple dont buy this because the same Sensor and the neer specs beween the OM5 and the EM5 Mark III or EM1 Mark III. I don't understand why so many get upset about the small battery. or the non Metal Case. 800 photos? Its not a Camera for Proffessional Photo shoots. I rarely take more than 200 photos on a trip or hike. I always have a spare battery with me and sometimes I have to change It. its important to me that the camera is as small as possible. I would even prefer the smaller, more compact body of the EM10 with the viewfinder and the specs of the OM5. LG Manuel

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree about the battery. It lasts longer than the same battery in E-M5 Mark III.

[@jordandunlop5629]

I have been using the em10 semi-professionally since its release. Just finished an out door photo project, 820sqft of large scale prints for sides of buildings...using the em10 (Version 1) only...both in studio and in the field....(tack sharp and great colour science from this brand).....the rate of consuming in photography industry is gross. Love what you have, people need too shoot more complain less, learn the craft and be conscientious consumers. I have no driving license, live in the cold part of Canada and on a fixed income......and more then welcome the upgrades, features and compactness of what the OM-5 can bring to my art after 10 years use from the small tank of the EM10!!!...hopefully it physically lasts as long!

[@stephenjones9246]

I guess the OM5 is a couple of generations ahead of my EM-5II, a camera I would never sell. The IBIS, live comp, livetime etc and access to inexpensive prime lenses that perform well wide open makes it a camera that does it all with no obvious compromises. I will be replacing it with an OM5 at some point, I would expect the new camera will offer an all round improvement in performance while preserving the features I value in the EM5.

[@marike1100]

I don’t think anyone would have complained had the OM-5 been made of magnesium alloy like the EM-5II. When customers keep asking for metal and OM System gives them plastic, it’s unfortunate. My EM-5II may not have a 20mp sensor but it feels premium and rugged. My Nikon Z50 kit, which sells for under $1000 is weather sealed and has a magnesium alloy body.

[@ForsgardPeter]

The material of OM-5 has not been a problem for me at all. It is very durable.

[@marike1100]

Yes, it seems durable and don’t get me wrong, I’d happily shoot with an OM-5. But the metal is the standard at this price point (think Fujifilm, Nikon). And I don’t buy the weight savings justification for polycarbonate. Thx.

[@davidmantripp]

@@marike1100 I'm always a bit puzzled why people decide 100% that metal is absolutely, always a "better" material than polycarbonate.

[@edzardpiltz6348]

You really think your Nikon is fully made out of magnesium alloy? Then look again! Most cameras these days are a blend of materials and that's for a reason which is disability. There is the om5 no exception.

[@SpudUna]

I get on well with the menu and I’m ok with the lack of joystick. I would prefer the scene and art modes as a menu option and use extra space on dial for custom settings. I’d also like a couple of small primes with weather sealing . I would jump all over a weather sealed 14mm pancake.

[@WilliamWallaceRoss]

The 20mm f/1.4 is on my bucket list for shooting around town. I love my 12-45mm f4 Pro lens and it gets the most use right now.

[@treehugger3615]

The OM1 saw significant improvements over the EM1.3. This I feel this is just the EM5.3 rebadged. At least they could have thrown in the stacked sensor.

[@davejsullivan]

Off subject, but do you have thoughts about Robin Wong’s latest videos concerning poor single point autofocus on his OM-1? I’d love your feedback.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I do and it seems that he has some problems with S-AF in low contrast lowlight situations. It can be clearly seen in the video clips he had. I have talked with him about the issue. I have not come across that problem, but then I have not photographed in situations he has. I will be of course testing S-AF in similar conditions.

[@gordon3988]

Thanks Peter…my recollection from DP’s review was they also noted how fun the camera was! An important point I think at least for non pro work. How do find using it for video…tends to be something I use in a camera a lot these days as well?

[@ForsgardPeter]

The part was an important part. Unfortunately most concentarted on the bad stuff. They also missed the blog post from where i had the quote. I have not really used OM-5 for video. It is quite similar to E-M1 Mark III. It is quite ok, but it is missing H.265 codec. On the other hand it has the vertical video which is handy. OM-5 is a great camera for vlogging.

[@MrThejaxon]

As one of those who criticized the camera on release I have eaten my words to a large extent. Most of my complaints have diminished in the 4 or 5 months that I have had the camera but one has remained. The menu system sucks. And so does the manual. I have tried many times to search for a feature and had no success because of a minuscule syntax error and in a modern system it is extremely frustrating. I have been able to turn on "blinkies" and focus highlights but I have no idea how and I hope they don't get turned off be accident. And I noticed that Peter has missed moving the focus point with a joystick but just last week I discovered that you can move it with a thumb on the back screen which to me is a lot easier than a joystick. I have had the camera since Nov. and I am just finding this out now? And as to the unusable custom modes that I haven't even looked into because of the complexity of using or setting them, couldn't they just put a panel on the Super Control Panel to access them? That's not even close to seeming to be hard to do. Hopefully there will be some joy if a new firmware update comes out but if not I am a lot happier than I thought that I would be with the camera and I'm glad that I listened to Peters assessment and traded in the 5 mark ii.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@timofeysavelyev9301]

I also got it in January having upgraded my EM5-3. Next to the already highlighted pros I can tell that the battery lasts longer. I was able to make 410 shots on one full charge in one cold evening in Amsterdam. For the same settings in the predecessor I shot 274 pics max. Apparently the OM-5 is smarter in a few aspects.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have also noticed that the battery last slight longer than in E-M5 Mark III. Of course it depends how much those features are used.

[@timofeysavelyev9301]

Thank you for confirming this. I must say my EM-5-3 started to break apart after 3 years of intensive use outdoors. The screen was showing strange white strips on the black background, a piece on the body with rough surface for your thumb went off. So I had serious reasons to trade it in for the OM-5.

[@jasonbell1265]

Hello Peter, i have small question. How many shots will mechanical shutter survive? My old E-pl6 did 27000 shot. Now i want some smaller powerful successor and i hope, that OM-5 will be perfect choice, especially for 780 euros. M1 or OM-1 are too big and heavy.

[@ForsgardPeter]

If I remember correctly it is 100.000.

[@geoffclinton8575]

As well as the OM1 I have an Olympus 5 mk iii. It is my go to camera for just having fun, I usually have the 12-200 lens on it and the 20mm in my pocket. I looked at the OM5 but to get a couple of features that I rarely use it was not worth it. The menu difference does take some time to get straight but once set up for your way of working is not an issue. The biggest problem I have and its with the OM1, is the placing of the shutter button and front wheel, having used the Olympus 1 mk ii and the 5 mk iii I have missed a number of shots due to he positional change.

[@richardpriestley477]

Thank you for this video Peter as I was keen to learn your views on the OM5. I traded my EM5 mark 2 in for an OM5 and I am very pleased with it. Features for me include Live ND /High res capabality /newer sensor / IBIS / weather sealing etc. So far I am really pleased with it and I even like the menu because it seems to reflect the EM5 mark 2 significantly and thus1 less new trick to contend with ! So all in all, I think it is a really good buy and a great camera .Chacun a son gout !!

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jennifercraft1296]

I came so close to getting this camera. I traded in my Nikon gear and got a used OM-1 instead. I want to have the camera a long time so I splurged. The OM-5 actually got me interested in the OM system.

[@ForsgardPeter]

OM-1 is a good choice.

[@Fotoderoodt]

I got my first go on the OM-5 I need to understand it better because I don't get it sharp all the time and I do not know how to get it to measure the light correctly on portrets the face is dark and the rest is bright. While I made some pictures straight againts the sun and they came out fine. I wanted to upload some examples but I don't see how. Further it is a nice fast and light camera I only miss the grip it's a bit small for me.

[@ForsgardPeter]

It sounds like you have the settings wrong. Take a look how exposure compensation works, and learn to read the histogram.

[@Fotoderoodt]

@ForsgardPeter Peter, the camera came straight out of the box, I used setting automatic, portret and portret with landscape. I don't want to go scrolling down menus to figure out how to get the focus right. It should work default or am I wrong? I found a video on youtube explaining how you can set it in different situations. That video is over an hour saying it will take time to get it to work correctly...I don't understand 😒 I live the camera but I can't get a decend sharp picture except from a sky or building. And all the dials ans levers overwhelmed me. There is no manual with it. On the back is a lever with 1 and 2 and a small button but it doesn't do anything when I change it. I just want to point and shoot and be able to select the correct focus area and that seems impossible. For Olympus users this must be easy for sure, for me frustrating.

[@Fotoderoodt]

@ForsgardPeter as I wrote about focusing on sane as lighting it should work without having to go to in to settings, at least that what I expectedl

[@ForsgardPeter]

It is really hard to say for sure what the settings are for AF. Most likely it will use the whole area. Press OK button and check the settings.

[@ZakWilson]

I'm curious as to why you use an OM-5 with a grip when you already have an OM-1. Without the grip the OM-5 is substantially smaller, but with it seems like there's a lot of overlap.

[@ForsgardPeter]

It is still slightly smaller, not much. The main reason is that I have a separate camera for work and pleasure.

[@christophernioule2388]

Hi Peter, I have a question, for a live broadcast with the Om5 om system. Is it possible to go live on KZbin or Facebook with the HDMI output and charge the battery in the device? the om5 allows it or i need a fake battery

[@ForsgardPeter]

You can live stream, but unfortunately if you want to power the camera you need a "fake" battery.

[@boboneill1828]

On your point about not being able to use a button to change to a different C mode whilst in a C mode, Rob Trek did a video about this. I believe you have to assign the button within the C mode. I don't have am OM5 but it might be worth a try.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I tested it and did not get to work. I need to ask Rob.

[@RAH1861]

In that video you refer to (which is very helpful), he specifically says that you cannot use buttons to switch C-modes WHILE IN C-mode on the dial.

[@boboneill1828]

@@RAH1861 The video I was referring to (ep 423) unfortunately was for the 0M1 which does allow custom modes to be assigned to buttons, and to assign those buttons within each custom mode to facilitate switching directly between custom modes. On my EM-5 iii it is not possible to assign custom modes to buttons at all. Only one mode is accessed by the dial. The others have to be accessed from the custom menu, which is less than convenient. I assume that the OM-5 is similar. I apologise for the confusion.

[@nikolleouf]

Hi Peter ! Thank you for your opinion and sharing. The AF Targeting Pad can't replace the joystick on the OM-5?

[@ForsgardPeter]

It can, I am just not used to it. It would work better on a rangefinder camera. The EVF is on the side and not in the center.

[@WhoIsSerafin]

I criticized it hard! but I got one and it’s a great camera and even Like it more than the om1

[@mvhan911]

Why so ?

[@WhoIsSerafin]

@mvhan911 well, it has to be for me be small as possible and weather resistant and have a kind of style that speaks to me. And it does. I'm not into any kind of bird photography, it is just overkill in the auto focus features I'll never use. so I just need good auto focus for people and general things like pets. And it's excellent at that.

[@mvhan911]

@@WhoIsSerafin thanks for feedback and good to know people AF is good too !

[@natan900]

Hi Peter, thanks a lot for your professional videos, much appreciated! Can you please let me know if the following lenses that I have will work with OM system OM-5 and OM-1 Marc 3: ZUIKO 12-40PRO, ZUIKO 14-150, and ZUIKO 12mm

[@ForsgardPeter]

If those lenses are M.Zuiko. If they are Zuiko you will need an adapter. MMF-2 or MMF-3 is the one you need.

[@233mervyn]

Loving your comments on the OM5, currently using the EM1 mark 11 but would like a smaller and lighter body do you think I would regret selling my EM1 mark 11. What’s your thoughts.

[@ForsgardPeter]

That is tough questions. It is very hard to say for someone else. It all depends if you find E-M1 Mark II too big. OM-5 is smaller. It has a few more feautures and if you feel you need those then yes, but if you do not them maybe no. E-M1 mark II has a better grip and I have the extra grip on my OM-5 so that it fits better in my hand. E-M1 Mark II might also feel slightly more durable even though they are both well made. OM-5 has slightly better weather sealing. It also depends what lenses you have. If have a the bigger pro zooms, E-M1 Mark II might be a bettre choice, but if you have the smaller F1.8 lenses then OM-5 will be fine. I hope this helps.

[@salgado_fotos]

I think it's a great camera, in my case it's been the jump from the M5 Mark II to this OM-5 and I'm delighted. I share your opinion. By the way, it is true that it does not have a joystick but you can use, while looking through the viewfinder, the LCD screen (which will be off, but sensitive to the touch to be able to focus, you just have to activate that function, something that I think I already had the M1 Mark II).

[@ForsgardPeter]

Yes the touch screen as targeting pad is quite handy. It would be even more useful if the EVF was on the side.

[@salgado_fotos]

@@ForsgardPeter True, but we would lose the aesthetics of the classic camera, personally I love that retro design that reminds us of the Olympus OM (1, 2, 10...). I think it is one of the few current designs that can be considered as an "icon" of photographic equipment or with a certain personality... My congratulations for your channel. A cordial greeting.🤗

[@gordon3988]

So this video is about 1 year old…still enjoying the OM5 (l know you also have your XS20 and the GRiii too) but wondering if you still love the OM5. It is a small mft, great ibis and weatherproof so a good fit for outside photos and simple videos, but curious how you find it now? Btw quite enjoying some of your latest videos!

[@ForsgardPeter]

Yes I am! Thank you.

[@geog8964]

Agree. Fun and usability.

[@kentvun]

I am contemplating between a OM5 vs EM1iii, feel like OM5 is a mini EM1iii with a smaller body. On the used market both price are also comparable. As a em5ii user myself, I have always been more inclined to the 5-series retro design, I known both now offer HHHR. On paper both appear very similar other than the design. Have notice any difference in term of real world performance, like AF speed, video specs or image processing? I wonder other than the battery life, am I loosing anything if I were to pick OM5 over EM1iii or vise versa? I appreciate your opinion and thank you for all the informative videos.

[@ForsgardPeter]

That is a tough call. Both camera will do the job. It depends what you photograph. For travel and everyday photography I would choose OM-5. For nature and outdoors etc. E-M1 MarkIII would be a better choice.

[@wikicamara]

@@ForsgardPeter My understanding is that the autofocus in the OM5 is limited compared to the EM1 Mark III, particularly in terms of subject detection. Is that correct ​​⁠​​⁠? I will be visiting National Parks during my next summer holidays and plan to take pictures of animals. Initially, I was considering the OM5, but if the AF algorithm is indeed capped, it makes the camera less appealing. Should I consider the EM1 or OM1 instead? Or is the AF on OM5 good enough? I typically take street photography, travels and family pictures, including many photos of my sons. That is why I have always preferred the form factor and portability of my EM5 Mark II, but it's frustrating when I review my photos and find that the AF missed the face or eye.

[@ernstyawo]

Im curious about Graffiti and Tags. Did you watch the movie Beat Street from 1984 back then?

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have seen it, but a long long time ago. Not sure when it was in the 80s.

[@WhoIsSerafin]

Can you do a video of the Olympus 20mm vs lumix 20mm 1.7?

[@ForsgardPeter]

If I can get a hold of a 20mm Lumix lens. That would be an interesting test.

[@Jarrych83]

Any thoughts on the durability? I have an em10 iv and have been using it for a couple of years and the outside of it is already beat to hell. And I'm not rough on it, but the tripod mount isn't sturdy and there are cracks forming around it, either from bottom strap use or my tripod, not sure which. And, amazingly, cracks around one of the standard attachment points on the side. They're branding this one so heavily toward adventure and outdoors use, but it makes me worried about possibly upgrading since I know the em5 iii had some similar durability issues. Nice to have's would be the new menu system, usb-c, and the updated battery, but from my current camera I'd seriously consider the om5 if I knew the durability was there. I just haven't heard much about that.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have not had any problems with the durability so far. Maybe the reason you do not hear about it is because there are not that many issues? Honestly I cannot say for sure. The way I photograph my gear usually stays quite clean and in good shape.

[@jenkpms]

I am trying to decide as a beginner if the OM5 is what I want. Or should I go for the gusto and get the OM1? Like I said I’m a beginner! No real camera experience but I want something for birding! ❤

[@ForsgardPeter]

For birding OM-1 is a better choice. What lenses are you considering?

[@jenkpms]

@@ForsgardPeter just a basic one to start. M. Zuiko f4? 75-300mm. I’m on a retirement budget- and will need a “camera for dummies” book! Thanks for getting back to me! I know that OM1 has the bird finder- is this camera more complicated than the OM5?

[@theelektriccowboy7661]

@@jenkpmsI upgraded from the Olympus 5 Mark 3 to the new OM5. I am a pro that have all canon pro gear for my needs and believe me the OM5 is just amazing. My suggestion is go for it.

[@denisardeche]

Bonjour, merci Peter pour toutes les vidéos, je posséde le E-M5 mark III avec 12-40 2.8 et cela me convient très bien et il y a aaussi le 40-150 (du pauvre !😄) mais pour ce que je fais c'est au top

[@Jarrych83]

I was wondering if you've had experience using the tripod mount for strap carry or the like. I had heard about durability issues with the em5 iii and have had serious cracking issues in the case of my em10 iv. For the price, id seriously consider this as a replacement before it completely falls apart, but I'm hesitant due to durability in that generation of bodies.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have had no issues with that.

[@Jarrych83]

@@ForsgardPeter just realized I commented twice about this. My mistake!

[@ForsgardPeter]

No problem.

[@serebrenikovvadim]

Perhaps if OM-5 had the same menu as M-1 then sales of M-1 would have noticeably decreased.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Not sure why they used the older menu. Sometimes it is the older chip that prevents using the newest menu system.

[@serebrenikovvadim]

@@ForsgardPeter Possibly it's true. Just I've read reviews that claim that companies intentionally cut out some features so that the top models of cameras have advantages and justify the high price. But I won't claim that such a policy is practiced by Olypus or OM-system.

[@ForsgardPeter]

@serebrenikovvadim That can also be the case. All camera companies does that.

[@TITAOSTEIN]

Did you sold your em1iii? Because the OM-5 + grip would have the same size of the em1iii. And you have a joystick, usb-c and more functionality on the em1iii. I trade my em5iii in favor of the new 90mm macro. Now I’m using the OM-1 and the em1iii. I really hope that they will bring a OM-3 or a OM-5ii. I love capable and compact size Cameras. But for my use the OM-5 make no sense. It is just a small and less capable em1iii. Right now I’m waiting for a GX10, PenFii, OM-3 (Dream… OM-1 AF, menu and USB-C, OM-5 size, metal body and em10IV ergonomics) or a OM-5ii. I wish OM could launch a new generation 12-50 PZ and a new and weather sealed 75-300mm.

[@ForsgardPeter]

No I have not. I still have it, but my daughter is using it at the moment.

[@TITAOSTEIN]

@@ForsgardPeter I gave my GX80 to my daughter. The em1iii I will keep for my use. :) The last Olympus Camera.

[@_krakra_]

Kinda sad they did not refresh menu design as om-1 is having.

[@TelmanRaoofi]

I hope OM Digital Solutions had a trade in program, so I could trade in my em5 iii and get an om5. One more thing, it seems on em5 iii, C modes in every mode (A, S, M, C) have different meanings and settings. That is very anoying that C2 in A is very different from C2 in C. It makes it much harder to remember and go to right setting fast.

[@RSWebery]

In the US, there is a trade-in promotion going on. You get the value of the trade in camera + $100 taken off the price of the camera ($1099). Not bad.

[@TelmanRaoofi]

@@RSWebery I don't find it on the website. Can you send me the link?

[@RSWebery]

@@TelmanRaoofi Ah, it might just be at my local camera store (Glazers Camera). In person only as well, appears to be no mention of it online. Perhaps check with your local store to see if they have a similar promotion... no guarantees unfortunately. I only saw it as a poster they had up next to the OM System display case.

[@mitchellwnorowski6747]

Could not agree more. With 3 spinal fusions and a ruptured bicep tendon looking forward to using my new om-5 which will replace my em1 ii. Better, ibis, af and an oled viewfinder which i will beable to use with my polarized sunlglasses. I also have earlier macular degener. I've gotten on lots of hate on the om users KZbin channel. K

[@edmwesten]

A good video, as usual, but if you like the OM-1 menu and joystick better than the OM-5's why not just use the OM-1 for personal photography as well as professional? The only benefit that I can see is that the OM-5 is substantially lighter and a bit smaller but all other specs are either the same or favor the OM-1.

[@ForsgardPeter]

It is more about having different cameras for work and pleasure.

[@edmwesten]

@@ForsgardPeter I understand since I use a Fuji X100f for pleasure and a Nikon Z7ii and a Lumix G9 for more serious stuff. Still, the differences in menu settings and controls sometimes lead to lost opportunities. 👍

[@Raist3db]

Peter, I love you and respect you as one of the few ambassadors I like in the way he expresses himself. But I take objection to your characterization to some of the reactions to the. OM-5 (not you as a person). If you are going to call those people "negative" or "not understanding" - think about what that says- an effective company ambassador telling potential customers "you just don't get it." I get it. I have had Olympus cameras since the e-volt e-300 back in 4/3rds days. And you know what OMDS and some don't seem to get? Those people are going elsewhere. I for one started to go back to Fuji. Why? Fuji is doing the camera models and tools I want that are a match for my needs. Not everyone is going wildlife though in some ways I can understand why OMDS is trying to pivot on that, since it's the last clear bastion of advantage of size and weight given telephotos (they should really focus on a close to pro body in an EM5MKII size and re-release the small primes as weather sealed but they sure don't seem to be doing that). I know I am not the only person in the market or universe, but please, let's not throw in those who don't like what you like (or promote) as simply "not getting it." Here's the cruz of the problem for many of us in MFT land- the OM-5 doesn't move the needle much from the EM5.3 while still sharing some apparent design flaws. Rear Rubber thumbrest- I bet that will also fall off over time. Tripod mount- they say it's improved, yet making it attached to that body build doesn't inspire confidence- nor the fact they aren't showing us what exactly they changed. The AF is virtually the same as EM5.3 except for a tiny bit improved face detect, all while giving pretty much the very same image quality. And then there's the competition. If one can say there's no camera doing what the OM5 does at its price, the same could be said for example of the Fuji X-E4. Anyway, as I had said before, it's not that the OM-5 is in an on itself a bad camera, but in the context of the current market, it should really have had that new sensor, new body build, some AI form of AF - even if that means cranking the price to the $1,500-$1700 USD. I would have paid for that. It doesn't help that OMDS has completely pivoted to wildlife and it's not clear what they intend to do (if anything) with the Pen line or something for other markets. Fully articulated LCD doesn't cut it for my street photography. So here I have a Fuji X-E4 that has better image quality than the OM-1, can do track AF (though admittedly I don't use that), and has better usability with AF points than the OM-5 for $350 USD cheaper than the MSRP. Whether sealing not much of an issue for some of the market, lack of IBIS also not an issue for a lot of photography particular street action even if it would be nice. Better ISO, better resolution, better DR and color -and AF yes. Anyway, I am still wishing OMDS comes out with the so called "OM-3" and do it right- as small as the EM5II in that kind of body. Crossing my fingers. So please, don't bundle everyone that didn't like the OM-5 as simply "oh we just don't like the camera because we must be negative." After all, dpreview themselves didn't say just that quote. It's our hard earned cash as customers. Imagine going to buy a car and say "oh you are not buying this new EV car? We get it, you misunderstand what EV is all about."

[@tomasmikeska]

Actually I have switched from fuji to olympus because 26mpix fuji sensors did not produce better IQ thank oly, not saying about rather weak fuji zoom lenses … and I am not into wildlife photography. One should really try systems before purchase, everybody has its needs. For my sports, travel, familly and landscape photo I did not find anything better than my oly setup, including FF

[@ForsgardPeter]

Well formulated comment Rais3db. Not sure about Fuji IQ. I have only tested the Fuji 100V. That was a marvelous camera. For me it lacked two things, proper weather sealing and IBIS. OM-1 is a lot better camera for wildlife, macro, outdoors etc. It is perfect for that. Most likely E-X4 is a better choice for street photography, especially with the 27mm pancake. OMDS is very clear what the cameras they make are good for. Their focus is very clear. Understanding that is important. All the opinions of the OM SYSTEM gear should be said understanding that. I totally agree that OM SYSTEM cameras are not for every one. Actually the quote is straight from their website. It is/was in the front page. here is a copy paste of that text: "Rain or shine, it's hard to find a camera that does all the OM-5 can for the price."

[@Raist3db]

​@@ForsgardPeter Hi again Peter, a few more thoughts- but first thanks for reading- much appreciated. X100V - weather sealing is just a filter adapter away, still small. I think it's fair to say whether sealing it is just $50-$100 USD away (depending if you go first party or third party). But I want to comment on what you said on the OM-5. The focus of OMDS is a pivot from previous focus of models that used to be marketed in general photography terms. Let's take for example the EM-1 Mark II, EM-1 Mark III and the EM5 Mark 3 and what the OM-5 is. In the EM1 Mark I/II era these were the top Olympus micro four thirds models marketed at a wide range of photography- not just wildlife. Sports, street, weddings, portrait, etc. - there was a specific ambassador here which I am sure you know as he was quite visible, promoting the cameras, I even saw a presentation when the EM1X was announced in an Olympus event at a dealer by him- , street (EM5MarkIII had someone hired to go in 24 hours capture a city at night, street work), etc. Wildlife was there, but was not the only focus. And as far clarity goes- they still say the Pen line continues but it's not clear what's next- that's a blind spot they should fill soon if they are going to really continue them or point to what direction. The OM-5 is effectively an EM1 Mark III shrunk, losing a few things in the process but that's what the model is. I would have been effectively marketed at what the EM5.3 was marketed which wasn't at all just wildlife photography, never just designed for wildlife or "outdoor adventures." And may I say it- the OM-1 is an EM1 MarkIV - so... The new pivot to wildlife is an attempt to grab a niche - can't fault OMDS for trying, since the cameras still have a clear size advantage with the telephoto lenses there, and the IBIS is best in class, so that's understandable and smart I must say. But back to my point- these are essentially models that used to be designed for all kinds of photography but the company pivoted marketing wise/message in where they want to market them to- not because they were really designed for that particularly niche. OMDS def. has focused their marketing more, but in the context of a previous MFT owner, this pivoting looks like the company has sort of decided to abandon catering to the other markets at least by name. The high end telephoto lens looks fantastic for wildlife, the F1.2 big primes not so much wildlife but they are still there (I still think doing these big primes was a mistake, they should keep on smaller size like the new F1.4 Pro). So pardon me or some of us who don't quite agree with the OM-5 proposition particularly in the context of how micro four thirds came to be and what the OM-5 really is. But the most important thing I want to point out is that it isn't the job of the customer to "have to understand" what OMDS is doing because they decided to what amounted to be previously marketed at a wide range of photography Olympus models (and that does include the OM-1 in design and capability- as I said, EM1 MarkIV), it is the job of OMDS to convince potential customers why their proposition is at least a good competent solution if not the best for a particular photography. And that may be what they are doing now with wildlife, but then I think it's easy to see we can't expect some previous micro four thirds owners which bought Olympus products for other photography to see that and say that a particular new product is all good and exciting, particularly when it is using years old technology from their line, and then say they are simply just being negative as a whole set (there's always some that are going to be just negative, yes). A company (said in general) that points back at customers that way, simply loses customers. I don't think I need to say where that eventually leads. Anyhow, I think OMDS at least in USA is doing a pretty good job at the wildlife marketing and trying to connect more with the customer. Would be awesome to see a bit of feedback loop where we see listening and again, would love a well done PenF II.

[@Raist3db]

@@tomasmikeska Glad you found a match. I sure find the IQ better but it's not the only reason I am switching back. That said, I would love OMDS to do a PenF done right or a good semi pro-close to pro EM5.2 body sized and build camera with the new sensor and better AF.

[@Raist3db]

@@ForsgardPeter Sorry, I see I missed a reply to a point that I Think stems from a misunderstanding when you said "Actually the quote is straight from their website... (on previews quote)." I am not disputing they said that. I read the review. All I am saying is that we can quote multiple things from that review and they are not all the positive that quote sounds as if that was the only thing we said- that's what I meant. Hope I made that clearer :-). Thanks for reading again.

[@Fotoderoodt]

Hi, I used the Canon all my life, but it is simply to bug so I leave it home...I used the RX100 but it lacks in speed and low light. I tried the Canon RP and R8 but still to big I needed a smaller but still fast and good low light. So I had to choose a new Olympus 1 mark iii or the OMD 5, I can get them for almost the same price the 1 is 200 euro more...Help what do I do? My use? Just daily shots, traveling and portrets semi profesional.

[@ForsgardPeter]

E-M1 Mark III is a good option and a slightly better camera than OM-5.

[@Fotoderoodt]

@ForsgardPeter Thanks! So I'm better off with the older EM 1 mark iii. Does it make a big difference? 🤔

[@Fotoderoodt]

@ForsgardPeter Sorry to bother you again. I went to countless reviews and top 10 of camera's. Strange thing is the the Sony A7 V, Nikon, Fuji takes all places. And if Olympus is present they praise the OMD 10.. which cleary is the budget starter camera. I found out that lots of people went from Olympus to Sony claiming they went sky high in image quality. I don't want to make a mistake to spend so much money and be stuck with an average camera while you can get much better. I was pointed to the Fuji S10 or 20 and Sony a6700. I am lost. I want a versatile camera small but good and for sure for portret street photography.

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

Have to agree that the 20mm feels like. true normal lens. The 25mm feels more like a 55 or 60mm in 35mm format.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I agree.

[@25palex]

sorry Peter, as I said you before, its big software updated em5 mark 3

[@ForsgardPeter]

The updates needed a new processor. It could not have been done in E-M5 Mark III.

[@shiouming]

Haven't hear any review video mention about the inability to use shortcut button to summon C2 mode while under C. Good catch! That limitation is pretty lame, probably a software defect.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I am sure it could be fixed with software.

[@EricHarris-sc3fg]

Hi Peter, thank you for your videos, they are always interesting. I've just received my OM5 and my camera doesn't have a target square on the screen at any time. The green focus square works and shows on the screen, could you tell me is this a fault, I've never owned a digital camera that's not had a targeting square before. My EM10 mk3s has one.

[@ForsgardPeter]

It should be there. I check and could not figure out why it would not be there. Check out Custom Menu D3 > Grid Settings > Display Color > preset 1 or 2. Set a color and see if that works.

[@EricHarris-sc3fg]

@@ForsgardPeter Thanks Peter, will check it out.

[@4thetruth2012]

Hey Peter... Why don't we (meaning you :-)) do a monthly/weekly ''Photo Competition/Challenge'' of same theme-subject... So people would stop constantly arguing their likes/dislikes towards some gear... and maybe this way people will be more focused on their creativity/content and their capabilities, rather than with their frustration with GAS & spending money... AND would have a chance to prove their ''point of view about gear'' with their photos...??? Live review and critique (maybe with pixelpeeping...), live chat evaluation of pictures, different categories of evaluation,... You could put up a poll, and see how many people would be actively interested in this... best regards

[@ianbrowne9304]

Interesting 12 minutes of common sense --- it's amazing how humans hang onto the negatives (not film negatives lol) and the thought a new camera always equals better photography . I always consider the Em1 as the best camera I have used (have two) although the swivel screen makes the Em1 Mk11 slightly better ---- have not plans/dreams to move to the Om series

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks. E-m1 is still very capable camera. It is amore about the photographer than camera. However, sometimes new features give some opportunities.

[@J-Young_photography]

since OM1 is now much cheaper now than it's Mk2 counterpart, why go straight to OM1, instead of OM5. after all there are more features there, and only a few hundred dollars more. or better still get a second hand OM-1.

[@outsider_outsider]

My next camera will be an OM5!

[@ForsgardPeter]

Good choice!

[@yourtallness]

It's pretty insane that they skipped on USB-C

[@ForsgardPeter]

Not really an issue for me.

[@HiredGunz98]

OM5 feels very cheap. The materials for the body just doesn't equate to a $1000+ camera.

[@mkytphotography4090]

But ironically it and OM1 are the only non-specialised cameras actually IP53 rated

[@roberthardy3090]

However engineering plastics have advantages in resisting deformation in impacts and reducing shock transmission to internals alongside lower density.

[@weisserth]

The OM5 with the grip is almost USD1,500. The E-M1III sells for the same amount, it has the same features and a better build quality and extras you are complaining about, like the joystick. After all the hype, I am still struggling with understanding why any of the new OM System bodies are a worthwhile upgrade from existing Olympus bodies. I don't see it. I'll stick with the E-M1III. The only thing I could see myself adding to my Olympus MFT kit is an E-M1x given for how low they sell at the moment.

[@karllelliott681]

I totally agree with you on every point!

[@ForsgardPeter]

The last Olympus branded cameras are still totally usable. OM SYSTEM cameras are newer and has some new features that those cameras do not have. Some think it is worth upgrading, some do not. Quite simple.

[@karllelliott681]

@@ForsgardPeter I totally agree. Everyone being unique and having their own considerations to ponder will come up with their own conclusions and act accordingly. Like you say a very important aspect of photography is just to enjoy the experience and not get hung up on gear. A common theme that is explored often in the world of photography.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Sometimes people think that when I say how I enjoy, OM-5 means that they should buy it. Of course, that is not the case. I very seldom, if ever, say that something should be bought because I like it. Everyone should use the gear they feel is right for them.

[@karllelliott681]

@@ForsgardPeter I myself have a pair of EM-1 MK2's and an EM-5 MK2 with various lenses. For me the lack of 'AI' features so I have a more 'manual' experience and the addition of quality lenses (which to me are always more important) lead to the experience I appreciate. Like you I am not a 'machine gunner' with my camera - more like a 'sniper'

[@RobertSigmund1]

I do not get your point. You have two OM-1s. Why use a lesser camera? Yes, it is lighter and smaller, though not relevantly so. O yes - you want to save the OM-1s from wear and tear!🤓

[@ForsgardPeter]

I do not think OM-5 is a lesser camera for the stuff I am using it for. The main reason is that I like to have a different camera for work and pleasure.

[@yassassinfo]

Bad: Logo

[@glennsak]

I miss Olympus. Sad that it now has the OM System logo on the viewfinder.

[@andrebeaule8179]

Black Magic is a four third camera to try

[@hgw7573]

the battery is too small

[@ForsgardPeter]

How many images have you gotten with it? Mine gives about the same as E-M5 MarkIII gave. Of course it could be better, but the amount is quite ok.

[@maratbabayan9332]

OM-5 is a really good camera but I don't see any huge difference between em5 mk3 and om-5. I tried but i can't! They even didn't install TypeC port in 2022-2023! And they still use the same horribly small battery BLS-50 (I couldn't take more than 200 shots with one charge in winter time, on Sony A7m3 i can do 600-800 shots)! For me it looks like OM System wants to sell old camera one more time. Not a good start for a new brand honestly. Neither Olympus nor OM System hear users complains. That was the biggest mistake Olympus made and due to that failed, and now OM System's going the same bad way (actually selling old camera with minimum changes makes it even worse)... now i'm sure i did everything right switching to Sony when Olympus sold their photo business to OM System. OM system stop doing what you're doing now, change your mind and just listen to you customers!!!

[@ForsgardPeter]

OM SYSTEM is listening a lot more than Olympus ever did. OM SYSTEM has a clear vision what they are targeting. Is that enough, time will tell.

[@maratbabayan9332]

@@ForsgardPeter I really hope you're right, coz I really like m4/3, I was 8 years with Olympus cameras and learnt a lot. Even though now I'm not am Olympus guy I still watch your videos about the system. Olympus become a part of my photography life and I will love this system no matter what.

[@roymorrison6713]

This is more of an EM1-MK3 rebadged than it is an EM5-Mk3 and as such represents a pretty good deal in my opinion.

[@maratbabayan9332]

@@roymorrison6713 if it was true OM-5 would be the perfect camera... but om-5 nothing more than rebaged em5.3 with outdated USB interface and some additional fetatures. Does OM-5 support usb tethering or they even didn't add this simple feature to it, like they did in em5.3? I really needed this features and was astonished then got that my em5.3 didn't support it. Honestly that was my bad - I had to read all specs before buying but anyway, I didn't think they could disable this feature in such a cool camera. But anyway, even though OM-5 is a cool camera if I wes looking for a m4/3 camera at the moment I'd prefer em1.3.

[@RAH1861]

It obviously depends on what you value as far as upgrades. For me, adding HHHR, MyMenu, and button assignments (which toggle) to C-modes were reason enough to buy the OM-5 (to replace my E-M5.3), plus ND filter, starry-sky, etc. The ability to assign buttons to C-modes is VERY handy (e.g. switch instantly from regular shooting to HHHR and back). Yes, I wish you could tether it, yes I wish it had 4 C-modes on the dial, etc. But, the added features (making it essentially a small E-M1.3) make it more than a worthwhile upgrade, IMHO.

[@jba3005]

I regret having bought it. For the price, the OM1 is much better. The OM5 has a very bad grip, an even worse viewfinder, very little autonomy, and an unintuitive menu. Additionally, when using zoom type 12_40 2.8 or 8-25 f4 it is very uncomfortable and unbalanced.

[@ForsgardPeter]

What do you mean by very little autonomy? It can be used as a fully manual settings if you want.

[@videojeroki]

@@ForsgardPeter I think she is talking about the battery life.

[@alexmilesg3]

The OM5 to me is not expected to be a primary camera. It is supposed to be a smaller casual camera you carry around all the time with small lenses. People need to understand that you can't have everything in a small body.

[@jamescole322]

Maybe because I grew up on film cameras from the early 1980s like the Pentax MX, but what's the issue with needing a big grip on a camera? What are you doing with your left hand?

[@letni9506]

This is probably what Peter was saying... People expect everything in a more budget camera. Ofc the OM 1 is better. It costs more and it's supposed to be better. The OM5 isn't supposed to have a large grip. You can get the OM5 with the 12-45 F4 for under £1000. I think that's a killer combination for a good price. I also don't get this bad viewfinder thing. For example my FZ330 has a nice clear viewfinder. It's 1.440k dots. The OM5 is 2.360k.