OM System OM-5 Was Underwhelming, Here's Why!

[@Bakin]

Robin; to make this video, you don't need to have tested the OM5 as you already own the EM-5 Mark III.

[@robinwong]

This comment made so much sense, it deserves a pin!

[@Bakin]

Thanks; no sour grapes on that!

[@davebellamy4867]

😂😅🤣

[@davebellamy4867]

Yes and I think he has the EM1 Mark iii as well, so that has all the new features of the OM5! Pretty much.

[@graciaman]

100% this. I am going to buy an OM-1 because it’s the final Olympus-branded camera, Olympus is the reason I love photography, and I am a collector. But I think if OM Systems continues down this path that will be the last OM System camera I buy. I can’t believe they didn’t even put the OM-1 sensor in it.

[@stevewhitehead766]

I bought an OM5 10 months ago, never shot Olympus before, so what came before it is irrelevant to me tbh, I use the camera how it is now and to me it is perfectly fine. Don't let this review put you off buying an OM5 because of what it doesn't have and what someone thinks it should have had. It is a very capable piece of kit.

[@user-lb4bd1go9o]

I agree. OM5 is excellent. I have it too. OM5 users seem perfectly happy. People who haven't actually tried it seem to criticise it. Stacks of useful features in a small body including unlimited video and S-Log, love the handling. My Menu and Custom button functions are helpful. Enjoying my images with the 12-45mm f4 Pro lens. 'Everyone go out and take more photos' as Robin would say:)

[@frankhu8692]

@@user-lb4bd1go9oyou are talking about this because you are not a em5 markiii user or a old olympus user, i have to admit the live nd, handheld hi res, and the handling with such size, om5 or em5 mark iii are the only offering on the market, however, the reason why olymous are not getting its deserverd market share / exposure is due to small improvements/ repeating using old parts, and as a previous olympus ambassador and a major supporter of m43 system, Robin pointed out these issues. A micro usb in 2022 new camera? Try to understand why Robin is so disapointed and why olympus have to sell their camera department, i love the camrea as well, especially coming from fuji system and after using so many full frame bodies, there is nothing so powerl, so well-handling, with so many intersting features, in such a small beautiful body reminiscent of the film camera om-1, but you have to admitt in 2022 or 2023 om system truly need to work hard to attract more customers

[@JuanManuelTastzian]

3:44 He literally said at the beginning "This is not a review". Why would anyone make a purchase decision based on this video? He's talking about the specs and the underwhelming improvements versus the previous version. He never said it was bad, given that the previous version was excellent, it's only natural that you're enjoying this one. Previous version is relevant in this context because if it's similar, you might as well get the previous version for 30% less or so, and get an extra lens that will make more of a difference in your shooting than actually putting the money on the "small upgrade" this represents.

[@jimmywest1]

Yeah! I share your opinion here as I come from another system. The OM-5 seem disappointing by people already using the OM-system cameras. For me, weirdly enough going from a FF A7II to the OM-5, I just love photography again.

[@extrajava9175]

the OM5 is a great camera. But that's because the EM5.III is a great camera. I'd say save a few hundred and get the previous model

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks bro. You said it so well and I agree with you 100%. You also have some valuable insights because of your time with Olympus.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Matti, appreciate that!

[@mc256]

You should say a word to Peter Forsgård... 😄😅

[@sacheie1]

Just this week, I upgraded from the E-M5ii to this. I agree that if I'd had the mk3, the OM-5 would be a meagre, skippable upgrade. But many people probably came from the earlier M-5 models. Phase-based autofocus was big for me, and HHHR shot was a gamechanger for my Oly 12mm and 17mm lenses. I think professionals forget that lugging a tripod around is a huge annoyance for amateur photographers - let alone flying with one! And for my birding, the marginal upgrade to 20MP has been helpful. Sensor seems better too, which matters a lot because my lens is the slow, budget 75-300 f/6.7. A better tele lens would cost as much as the OM-5 and would be useful only for wildlife, whereas the new body improves all my photography.

[@JimNicholls]

Thank you for that, Robin. I'm still using E-M5 Mk ll, mainly for video, and would like to upgrade. I've held off on the Mk lll, as it is now quite old, but would definitely have been interested in the OM-5 if it offered any real improvements. However, it's clearly not worth a premium over its predecessor, so I'm glad that you have pointed this out.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Jim. I really wish OM Digital Solutions had listened to their customers, and put in more effort to have more upgrades!

[@JimNicholls]

@@robinwong Yes, I can't see the sales of this one being what they probably expect, and that's bad for the future of the company and for us, the Olympus fans.

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

I actually own two of the E-M5 ll and love the way they look and feel. Not sure I will ever replace them if this is the future of the 5 series.

[@leungyuenkwan]

I'm still using EM5 MK II as well, as you know, though it's quite old already, it's a really really good camera for someone like me who isn't that professional or require certain professional equipment. I've been looking for getting the OM-5 for the first day since the rumor was out. But after watching a few vidoes, I would rather wait for the next "5 series" or go strict for a OM-1. OM5 would be definitely better than my EM5 MK II, but this could not persuade me for buying an old wine in a new bottle.

[@JimNicholls]

@@leungyuenkwan I totally agree. I think they made a big mistake with this one, as Robin points out.

[@davidcompton4885]

I am underwhelmed also. I was expecting a little sibling to the OM 1, what we get is a little sibling to the EM 1 Mk III. It appears OMDS has taken the processor from the EM 1 Mk III and put it into the EM 5 Mk III body and that’s it. It makes me wonder about the long term survival of the company.

[@Sabundy]

I am very skeptical about this spun off business surviving. They just don't have the sales volume of Canon, nor the cache of Sony. And it's a shrinking market they are competing in. What exactly is their strategy? 🤷🤷🤷

[@davebellamy4867]

@@Sabundy Major economic problems have begun, so a lot of secondary companies are for the dumpster as the consumer gets screwed.

[@lionelartige9738]

OMDS wants to make money. In a shrinking market, it is better to sell OM1 than OM5 cameras. So, the strategy is to make Robin buy an OM1 instead of an OM5.

[@richardwalker4518]

@@lionelartige9738 Valid point, but I think there was plenty of room in there to make a better OM-5 release without cannibalising the OM-1. I'm on board with Robin's 'it doesn't make sense' thesis

[@michalhor2736]

The most accurate description of the OM system situation is: "garage sale" What is left of Olympus is monetized. This is a requiem

[@davidbrohede]

Robin, I totally agree, and I appreciate your sincere voice regarding their failure in listening to customers and delivering progress. I still use the E-M1 Mk2, and love it. I also want the M43 system to survive and thrive! Keep up the good work! Love from Sweden

[@sop1193]

Hi Robin, thank you for your videos. I bought an OM5 a month ago and I am very happy with it. It is my first Om system (Olympus) camera so I can't compare it with any previous version. I am an hobby photographer and it is the perfect camera for me; it is small and light and the f4 pro lenses are great, light and affordable.... The fact that this camera is not a real improvement to the EM5iii doesn't bother me as I don't own EM5iii.

[@frankhu8692]

because you are not a em5 markiii user or an old olympus user, i have to admit the live nd, handheld hi res, and the handling with such size, om5 or em5 mark iii are the only offering on the market, however, the reason why olymous are not getting its deserverd market share / exposure is due to small improvements/ repeating using old parts, who doesn't like better screen and better evf? How many old olympus system user or new customer still feel refreshing buying a new camera with a 6-8 years old sensor? As a previous olympus ambassador and a major supporter of m43 system, Robin pointed out these issues. A micro usb in 2022 new camera? Try to understand why Robin is so disappointed and why olympus have to sell their camera department, i love the camrea as well, especially coming from fuji system and after using so many full frame bodies, there is nothing so powerl, so well-handling, with so many intersting features, in such a small beautiful body reminiscent of the film camera om-1, but you have to admitt in 2022 or 2023 om system truly need to work hard to attract more customers

[@jodeverill]

I'm not disappointed: it's a decent upgrade to a great camera. It's normal for successive generations of tech to be iterative rather than transformational. In its marketing OMDS is playing to the strengths of the OM System: lightweight, ergonomic, robust, weatherproof. It makes sense for OMDS to use older tech in entry level models. Apple does exactly the same with its SE phones. They don't have USB-C either.

[@robinwong]

The problem here is, the OM-5 is 99% the same with E-M5 Mark III. It is as if they just slapped a new logo onto the camera, with some minor tweaks. It does not justify the price increase, and it also does not justify succeeding the older E-M5 Mark III.

[@jodeverill]

@@robinwong But it has a more powerful processor, faster face recognition, an extra stop of IBIS, HHHR, Live ND, unlimited recording, webcam tethering, OM-Log... Surely that's more than 1% of the camera. Are they really minor tweaks? It's not a generational shift, but doesn't it make more sense to introduce smaller changes more frequently, than wait years and years for a major update?

[@Brianatthefarm]

The thing that I like about Olympus and M43 is that I can have a longer zoom and a wide prime for low light in a very small travel package. And at a nice price compared to FF.

[@maZec31]

I have also EM-5 mark III. The best of this camera is that is small powerfull, amazing bracketing options, good image quality, fast autofocus... I love that camera.. only much much better sensor and much better chip in OM-5 will change my mind right now :)

[@robinwong]

I love my E-M5 Mark III too

[@davebellamy4867]

I just got the EM5 Mark iii and despite the slightly more plastic feel, the main controls feel superb and the shutter sound is classy and really quiet. Much quieter than my EM10 Mark iis.

[@petermcginty3636]

Thanks Robin, I appreciate your work. I don't t expect the OM5 to be a OM1A, but I do understand why you are underwhelmed. I am not a photographer, I take photos as a hobby. Maybe they kept the same body to allow the accessories to fit (unlike Apple & Samsung phones). A menu system is just a menu, a camera is for taking photos. Auto focus could be better, I agree. ND filters are helpful in harsh light. Handheld 50meg Hi-res photos are nice, astro photography with Starry AF is pretty cool, using computational photography to take photos of lighting will always be a family favourite. I think this would be a great camera for a hobbyist who does not own an EM5 iii.

[@peternumber19]

At first I thought this was disappointing but now it's sinking in that this gets another OM camera on the street and it has a lighter body, upgraded electronics and some function changes. So if you're thinking of buying a new camera or replacing a 16mp it pushes it a bit higher and it's not expensivem, I've seen quite a decent deal with a 12-45 f4. Upgrading by one update is rarely a must have so I'll keep my EM5 Mk3 and wait for the next update. The lighter body is a good step in the right direction for me and tweaking the sockets as well could have been a step too far for the company at this stage with the Christmas market coming up.

[@donaldmiller7098]

I bought an E-M5MkIII two weeks before the OM-5 was revealed. It was on sale so I took a chance the new version wouldn't be so spectacular I'd regret not spending the extra money. Up until the actual release, the rumors were that along with massive improvements ported from the OM-1 the price would increase by several hundred dollars. I'm glad I took the chance. Nothing in this new camera makes me regret my purchase of the older model. If the E-M5MkIII hadn't been on sale I wouldn't have minded paying full price for the OM-5; it's a great camera - just not "WOW" great.

[@rodmehta5356]

The problem for OM System is that by releasing this "new" and not really improved camera they have reaffirmed the doubt and the stagnation of MFT in general and their business system in particular. Whoever wants to upgrade on a nice looking and feeling small camera system will be looking towards Fuji or Leica. Releasing a new, upmarket Pen F with EM1-3 specs would have been more interesting. To me at least. Cheers Robin :-)

[@robinwong]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ron, and yes, we do want to see some progress!

[@sushvee1475]

Thank you for your commentary on the OM5. Spot-on! I want this format to succeed so the glaring missteps in this release are very disappointing.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Sush. I wish they listened more to the customers

[@timbaugh1944]

It looks like more of a branding exercise - moving away from Olympus to the OM brand rather than launching a new camera. I'll stick with my Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III for now. I suspect we will see an OM3 next. Good video Robin.

[@robinwong]

If that is the case, then the branding exercise failed. The camera was not getting many positive reviews

[@Meriweather50]

Big fan of your work Robin! Couldn't agree more about the USB connection and menus. My thinking is that this camera is aimed at new buyers (if they exist) into the 4/3 systems. You make an excellent argument about the futility of the OM-5 as an upgrade for users of the earlier versions.

[@robinwong]

yeah the OM-5 feels like E-M5 Mark III with a new logo

[@michaeld5888]

@@robinwong It is just that and the continuation in production of a fine camera and long may it continue. Weatherproofed and with leading edge stabilisation. This endless carping about upgrades all the time does get rather annoying and seems more geared to the gadget updating addict as opposed to anyone interested in photography. If people think the EM5 III is fine I would think just keep using it but Olympus and the glory days have gone for good. We should just be extremely thankful the brand has manged to continue.

[@robfj3414]

Great video as always, Robin. And certainly an honest appraisal of a fairly lacklustre launch. I certainly agree that the upgrades are incremental in this first 5 series model from OM Systems but only if one already has the EM5 MkIII. I presently have the PEN-F, EM5 MkIII and EM1MkIII bodies, all with the same sensor so I see no reason to upgrade at this point. Realistically, you don’t buy a new car every new model year. There’s no point. There would rarely be enough changes to make that a prudent expenditure. Same for smartphones. There’s rarely a need to upgrade every single time a new model comes out. Why expect something different in a camera company? This isn’t enough of an upgrade to make me jump on it but, in about 2-3 years, who knows what will happen? Meanwhile, I’ll spend my camera money on more glass instead!📷📷📷😉

[@keithwilkinson8310]

I agree with nearly all your comments Robin, except one: video features. The OM5 has portrait mode video (which I hate) but is likely to be what lots of users want.

[@scottparis6355]

Yes. portrait mode video comes from cellphone users who don't know, or care, what they're doing.

[@keithwilkinson8310]

@@scottparis6355 Yes, portrait mode is now very common because of mobile phones. I guess people who are used to it will be annoyed if their camera does not allow it. Hence OMDS are sensible in providing it.

[@martinwiedmann8584]

You are right. For me the OM-5 is a firmware update with a weather sealing feature for the E-M5 iii . I had the E-M5 iii but replaced it with the E-M1 iii. I could not be happier and still use the E-M 10 ii as a backup

[@davebellamy4867]

How do you like the EM10 Mark ii? It's drop dead gorgeous. When I saw it in the shop in 2017, I was actually shocked by how lovely that camera looked and felt. Terrible for continuous autofocus video but everything else I really liked. I just got the EM5 mark iii today. EM10 ii definitely feels nicer but the EM5 iii seems really neat as a camera, especially if well disounted and with a 2½ year warranty.

[@Bakin]

Thanks Robin: I agree with your thoughts here. I am very happy with the performance of my EM-5 Mark III. I would expect though that the performance of the OM5 with the upgraded Truepic IX processor should significantly improve the Autofocus and Focus Tracking over the previous EM-5 Mark III camera with the Truepic VIII processor. Lastly why did not simply add a head phone jack as needed by vloggers? Any thoughts?

[@robinwong]

Yeah the OM-5 could have been the perfect vlogging camera with 4K 60, 10 bit video, headphone monitoring jack and improved video AF

[@keithvlogs1]

Robin.... You hit the nail on the head. I really can't imagine them having that much sales at $1.2k at the minute when the em5 mk 3 is 95% the camera for half the price. ONE thing I am looking forward though is the - 1: Auto ISO in Manual movie mode. 2: Clean screen, I mean the "anoying overlays" dont light up when you change shutter speed. It absolutely buggers the crap out of me. I dont need these settings pop up with every shutter speed change. 3. I can't confirm this yet. But HOPEFULY the blimming (Focal length info) is gone for good. No way to remove it, its just there on the efing screen. As if were bloody noobs and we dont know what focal length we've put on the camera.

[@SunePedersen88]

I agree with you. What they released yesterday was a $700 product.

[@pacostiro]

Totally agree with you, Robin. Looking for an upgrade since several years, I skipped OM-5III and I was planning to buy an OM-5, but now I believe I will wait for the next model.

[@willidevegt8831]

Good day Mister Wong I never used an Olympus but I am thinking about switching from Nikon to Olympus I agree with much what you say. About the plastic build personally I dont see a problem in that and honestly it would be positive for me because it means lower weight which is 1 of the reasons I want to switch. I do agree with what you say about micro USB but also this is very minor to me ad I would not charge the battery in the camera and I wouldn't transfer the photos that way. For me personally I would not even care if they left out any usb on camera. Also I think they know how to do all the upgrades you would want to have but then it would naybe interfere with the sales of the OM-1 Or in other words it sounds like you wish for an OM-1 in the body of an OM-5. But yeah the the menu should be the same across all cameras that was a mistake not sure if they could ever change this with an firmware update About the video capabilities isn't the OM-1 better for video ? Isn't it that most camera manufacturers make different cameras for different users ? Sony A7S for video vs A7m4 for photography or Fuji H2S for video vs H2 for photography? So maybe if you want to shoot Olympus and your goal is to do more video maybe you should go for OM-1 An other thing important to look at is the price which I understand is the same as the older version where as other camera manufacturers often ask a couple of hundred duit / dollar/ euro / ringgit more for the newer models About your wish for 4k60 video could it be a cooling problem in the small camera size ? Or do you like what Fuji has done adding a separate cooler on the back ? Also not nice is it ? I also have a question you say if people ask you what camera to buy you tell them em5m3 or em1m2 Why you mention these 2 cameras what makes you choose an em1m2 over the em1m3 or om-1 ? Which of the Olympus cameras if money was not a subject? Which camera and why ? Thanks

[@davebellamy4867]

It's also a brand and model naming issue. OM5 is basically the first new OM named camera since the OM3 and OM4 in 1984. The new OM1 was a repeat of an old name of their first SLR from 1972.

[@robinwong]

I can forgive the naming, if the product is actually good!

[@davebellamy4867]

@@robinwong 👍 True. "What's in a name?" In a way I meant that they should have put more effort into the first new OM name since 1984. ... Still, I hstgot an EM5 mk 3 new for under 700 bucks and I like it. Apart from the menus, which are like the EM10 ii but even more complicated!

[@Marty4650]

Robin asks "What is the point of the OM-5? Why not continue selling the EM5 III instead?" I can think of a few good reasons for OM System to create this new camera.... 1. It was very easy to do. As you say... "it is pretty much a minor upgrade of an existing camera.": 2. It really is a better camera than the camera it replaces. Even if the improvements are small. At the exact same price. 3. It extends the life of the 5 series, without having to further discount a three year old model

[@patrickhopkinson1851]

The OM5 seems to be most of an EM1 mk3 in a smaller and lighter package, like the EM5 mk3 was most of the EM1 mk2 in a smaller and lighter package. I love the EM1 Mk3 and I’d imagine that the OM5 will be even more fun to use. Starry Sky AF, ND filters, hand held hi-res etc will make it great for travel with some light weight lenses. I have no problems with the resolution, ISO performance, pro capture abilities etc on the EM5 mk3…and hopefully the OM1 will be at least the same. I hope it will also have the same viewfinder as the EM5 mk3 rather than the one in the EM1 mk3, which doesn’t work with polarised sunglasses. I don’t quite understand all the negativity. It’s only a camera.

[@shaananwalsh7513]

That's the point of his video. OM systems is following the same plan as Olympus which put them out of business. OM Systems needs to change things up by following a different plan. I think that people are upset because these cameras will not be around for long unless OM Systems can make a bigger splash than this. They could have but the higher mega-pixel sensor in it and gotten a lot more positive reviews.

[@krishnavandewalle9459]

I really wanted the OM-5 to be something great. I’m shooting Full frame on my Canon R6, but I’m missing the portability of the MFT system so I was looking for a moment to get a backup and go back to the system I started shooting with. What a real shame. I’m guessing they were trying to keep the price down by reusing a lot of things from the E-M5 mk iii. But they’re not doing themselves any favours by completely copy pasting the same exact camera and only swapping the innards (people love seeing differences). I love your energy Robin.

[@basiltiffani8850]

I agree. And I'm one of those people who want metal bodies. It's not that I think plastic isn't durable, although tripod plates on plastic bodies make me nervous, I mostly prefer metal just because of the feel. It feels like a "real" camera. 700 US is max I'd spend a plastic camera. That's less than half the cost of the om5.

[@robinwong]

They just need to listen to the customers a bit more. I hope they learn from this mistake.

[@Sabundy]

Just ignore the people complaining about you pointing out how and why Olympus's camera business failed. You made a lot of very good and valid points about why it happened. Some people are just in denial. For heaven's sake if their camera business had been making money they never would have sold it. But by Olympus's own admission they wanted to sell it before it's value went down even more.

[@robinwong]

Thanks so much for the show of support, appreciate that so much. Yeah, it was because they did not do well that they had to be carved out into a new company. Olympus basically gave up on the imaging division.

[@TheNaught1]

Totally agree, Robin, and I really appreciate your passion. OM-5 looks to me like cost-cutting - the goal was to share the image proc with the flagship, in order to reduce the procurement challenge of the processor, and spread the cost to another model. Shame about the menu system being unchanged. There is no excuse for that hell-hole. Speaking of holes, looks like the tripod thread is still polycarbonate, which is inexcusable in a $1k+ camera that could see a lot of tripod action.

[@robinwong]

They really do need to listen to customers more

[@deiri87]

The tripod thread not being upgraded really is such a disappointment.

[@10tacleboy83]

I'm disappointed too about the OM5. 100% agreement with your opinion.

[@robinwong]

Thanks

[@user-ex1fq6oz4p]

Robin sony just released a new camara thea7rt With the same sensor as mark 4 Without in camera stacking which is important for macro Did anybody bash them for lack of inovation?

[@robinwong]

Sony is dominating the market right now. They can do almost anything they want. OM Digital Solutions has just started, and OM-5 was their first camera to feature the OM System name. And Olympus basically died in the market. These are two very different companies. Are you saying it is ok for OM Digital Solutions to: 1) Not listen to their customer feedback 2) Not showing progress? No, I don't think so, I think they should have invested more effort into the OM-5.

[@claudiodaloia3458]

I agree with you. I am an Olympus lover, but different brands are doing very well. Fuji for example

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Honestly what does the competition offer for under USD 1000? Sony obsolescence, a Nikon ailing ASP-C and a toy camera from Canon 😮.

[@nicojan]

My cold take: they didnt' add USB-C to the M5 series just to give the M1 series another extra advantage and push more people towards it. In this light it makes sense to limit the M5 in its feature set, even if it's completely arbitrary.

[@johnsmith-gs4qf]

The specs are mostly the same as my olympus omd em 1 mark ii. While I love my camera, this camera is from 5-6 years ago. I would expect the newer OM-5 to have newer specs for a brand new camera. I agree with Robin that using old micro usb in brand new camera is a bad idea!

[@robinwong]

Thanks JOhn, and I still use and love my E-M1 Mark II

[@xmeda]

OM5 seems to be more like as if the rights to use Olympus label are now gone and they had to keep production of EM-5III. So they did quick check, some light update and they re-launched is as OM-5. I expect some more significant update in 5 line in 2-3 years future. Not now. And maybe even named OM-3 and raise it a bit higher in spec.

[@christinecoughlan4699]

Thank you for the TRUTH Robin .👌🏼👍🏼

[@robinwong]

Thanks Christine, being truthful is very important to me

[@davebellamy4867]

28:02 What about the 40-150mm f2.8 Pro versus the Panasonic 35-100mm f/2.8 for events? Stage etc. I had 75mm as the longest lens for a concert recently. 75mm was stellar but I needed a longer lens for the venue size. I would like a prime around 135mm to 150mm. The 35-100mm f/2.8 isn't much longer than the 75mm and is less than half the weight of the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8. Though the latter sounds like a great lens. By the way, I found the 12-40mm f/2.8 great for the gig too, especially in combination with the 75mm f/1.8. The 40-150mm f2.8 is heavier than my old 180mm f/2.8 Zuiko from the 1990s, which was too heavy for me to use for my tastes. I'd much rather have a nice prime lens at 135mm or so, that doesn't weigh a lot. Maybe I will just get an old secondhand Olympus film camera lens like the 135mm f/2.8 or f/3.5. The latter is very compact. Someone should be making a 135mm f/2.8 or maybe a slighly faster f/2.5 for MFT. After all, Laowa has at the wide angle end 7.5, 9 and 10mm lenses!

[@RachelAllcock]

I'm disappointed, but on reflection shouldn't be surprised. The E-M5 Mk iii was basically an E-M1 Mk ii in a small body i.e. one model behind the then flagship, so I guess it makes a kind of sense for its successor to be an E-M1 Mk iii in a small body. Trouble is, from E-M1 Mk ii to E-M1 Mk iii was only a minor increment, which makes the OM5 similarly underwhelming. I guess the bottom line is that given I love my E-M5 Mk iii, for an upgrade I want a 90% OM1 in a smaller case, not an E-M1 iii. I Wouldn't even mind paying a price somewhere inbetween for it. But whilst the OM5 is no doubt a fine camera, it's not the one I want to upgrade to.

[@mygoldkenns5623]

Glad I am using EM5iii

[@jonwalker3299]

Thank you for this video. I was so excited this morning when I heard of the new OM5. I thought it would be a great backup for my OM1….BUT….then I read the specs (after viewing all of the OMD beautiful videos). I could not understand why no USB C??? The deal breaker for me was the new OM5 had the OLD menu system. No way No way. So, tonight I am very disappointed but glad you said what you said. Please keep up the good work of educating us. I appreciate your heart felt opinions

[@robinwong]

Thanks Jon. If I were to invest in OM-1, it is either i get another OM-1 or a smaller body as a back up, so OM-5 would be the right choice, but the different menu system and Micro USB are two very wrong moves. It would be easier to have a more uniform workflow!

[@jonwalker3299]

@@robinwong I completely agree and that is why I will not be buying the new OM5

[@thomaskehl69]

thank you Robin, great video, hit the point. one thing to mention is the availabilty of new products. i was waiting too long to get hand on a OM-1 or even a 100-400mm. so finally i went to buy a Lumix S5 with nearly same features, but full frame

[@robinwong]

Oh dear, so sorry to hear that, availability is an issue!

[@hans-christophlenz3356]

Thanks for this video. I agree in every aspect. The really sad conclusion is, that OM systems apparently has a very small development department. Second, they don't have a good selling department either. When you are looking for a new camera you enter a camera store, the first thing you do is looking through the viewfinder. So this is the first thing to develop.

[@dwong92464]

As a consumer, I would have liked OM System to have put more in the camera, but I can understand their thinking. The OM-1 is the flagship. The OM-5 should not challenge that position. Instead, they took the guts of the EM-1iii and put it in the smaller form factor. Like the OM-1, this camera has probably been on the boards since before the sale of the company. It will be interesting to see what the OM-1ii will be like. Once that comes out, then there you will probably get the OM-5ii that has all the features you are seeking. We will just have to wait and see. Until then, I will be using my EM-5iii.

[@johnmartin1954]

I agree with you 100% I own a OMD EM1 mark iii which is about 2 years older than the OM5 and I believe my camera is far more advanced than the OM 5. Great video Robin !

[@robinwong]

E-m1 Mark III is awesome!

[@StrangelyIronic]

I was hoping they would release a new Pen-F with more or less the same shell but with the updated hardware, software, and weather sealing. I'm a sucker for rangefinder style bodies, and the new Pen-F was probably one of the best cameras made in ages design wise. Either way, the OM-5 is a way to reuse molds while delivering reasonable updates for people like me where my newest body is from 2016 (E-M5.2, E-P5, GX85, and GX8). Still seems dumb to not have the new menu system. I never had problems with Olympus' menus (nor Sony that people like to complain about), but the OM-1's menu system was probably the biggest upgrade from an E-M1.3 that over 90% of users would notice. It's definitely something they could have made work with the hardware in the OM-5. That new menu system alone would have sold a lot of OM-5's :\.

[@XboxTheBeatboxer]

I appreciate you and your passion. I've been using an OMD-EM-5 with a Voigtlander 25mm 0.95 since the camera and lens combo came out. It's still going strong for me in 2022 and has helped me capture some wonderful moments. My next camera will be a Leica. Thank you for posting this video!

[@hamtairo]

I just felt em5 mark ii is the best value of all em5 series as long you dont use it for continuous af or low lights photography. The size with 17/25mm lens is perfect for daily use👍🏻

[@gabithemagyar]

I agree. It's a great travel, street, and daily camera. I love its look, feel, and ergonomics. If the OM5 features would be in the EM5 mark ii metal body I would snap it up. As it is I will wait to see if perhaps there will be a reissue of the PEN F.

[@huislaw]

I also brought it to Jomblang wet cave and splashed by sea water at Timang Beach😆. With a splash proof 12-40mm.

[@kevinbourke4038]

I agree, I had an EM5 mk2, sold it, 6 months ago, am sorry I did that. The EM5 mk3 feels flimsey by comparison. The EM5 mk2 felt solid & looked great too.

[@ronaldcaimi5720]

OM System is a successor company to not just a long standing camera brand but to a system which may be starting to look like a novelty given recent output from Sony, Nikon and Fujifilm. For that reason, I can't blame them for introducing a proven winner which is mostly a rebranded but unimproved version of a wildly successful Olympus model. As someone who is sold on m43 for all of its obvious attributes, I still can't help but wonder if it will be around in 5 years. So if OM Systems wants to test the waters with a rebranded version of a previous best-seller, I wish them nothing but great sales. And that will likely lead to innovation down the road. No complaints about Robin Wong's observations. I just see OM Systems' move from a different point of view.

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

Have not seen your video yet as I am typing this but yes the OM5 is underwelming. It keeps pace with most of the other camera companies and is competitive but I want it to be more competitive. I felt the Om1 stepped out in front of the competition while this one keeps pace.

[@robinwong]

Yeah feels like one step forward, two steps backward

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

I am really missing the Olympus name on the pentaprism hump. :.( Seams like this camera will get the same reaction and will probably sell as well as the Em5.3 did which is ok but not going to grow the company.

[@JensMHA]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 3rd party solution to that, rather soon...

[@robinwong]

E-M5 is an important series for the company, bringing in both volume and profit. I wish they have listened more to customer feedback and not repeat their mistakes

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

@@JensMHA Ya if someone sold a top plate with an instructional video that had the Olympus name I would buy it.

[@ShakurTheAshier]

Thank you for making this video. it takes a lot of integrity to be this honest. This is absolutely shameful. Sad to see.

[@mmwalks]

Pre launch i was hoping the new om5 would be a worthy upgrade to my em5ii. But after seeing the specs and different reviews I think it’s better to get an em5iii, and as vain as it sounds I like the look of the Olympus branding better than OM Systems.

[@robinwong]

Yes, E-M5 Mark III is still a great option, I am loving mine

[@MrKkspeed]

Feel that OM System or Olympus is just one generation behind, from being truly exceptional: EM 1 MK III would've been a "wow" if it were to carry all the capabilities of OM-1, EM 5 MK III would've been greater if it were able to do what OM-5 is doing. This OM-5 feels like a missed opportunity for OM System to catch up the cycle -- it could've been much better accepted if it were branded as OM-10, and selling at a lower price -- it would be a killer package for beginners and vloggers -- light weight, small compact, good auto focus, IBIS, no crop 4k -- more compelling than the zv-e10 or z30. That being said, I do understand that there can be a lot of limiting factors that prevent OM System from doing so -- cost, development time, supply chain shortage, global recession etc. Love the Olympus cameras, and really hope OM-SYSTEM would do well in the future. But this OM-5 is still disappointing.

[@terrynoon8467]

Hi Robin, I share your views on the OM 5 and thank you for your well balanced arguments even though you do not have access to a copy yet. What you say makes sense and the new camera does seem to offer a very minor set of upgrades to most people without fully meeting the apparent requirements of the new brand. The most notable example of this is the lack of adoption of the new menu system evidenced in the OM 1. What is this camera, something new or simply an excuse to rebrand on the cheap. Come on OM systems you will have to do better than that if you wish to justify the legacy of a great innovative brand like Olympus.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Terry, and yes we all want to see more progress!

[@michaelshoup2703]

The fact that you are shooting with one hand holding the Oly, AND, the other holding your action camera, (Who's filming me @ 36:15) speaks VOLUMES with regard to Olympus image stabilization!! Simply amazing!! And your images are tack sharp.. Try doing that with a Full Framer.. LOL...

[@robinwong]

Yeah I cannot survive without the 5-Axis IS

[@ferdiyansurya]

To see ‘OM System’ instead of ‘Olympus’ is something that I’m personally not accustomed to (yet). Not sure how the people in OM systems think when we talk about brand image building. Switching from Olympus to a different name, is not something to be taken very lightly, they need campaigns, marketing strategy, etc.

[@lorenschwiderski]

Old model $899 New model $1199 with little changed. Which would you buy? I bought the Lumix GX-9 with 12-60mm lens for $799, which was the better deal. If needing an Olympus, the OM5 would not be on my list. The older models, when discounted make more sense. My EM 10 mk II is a good metal camera, and cost me very-very little to buy -- I think it was a third the cost. Almost a giveaway price at the time. - Loren Schwiderski 🙃

[@Topper_Harley68]

Fujifilm

[@ramonscott6045]

I agree with you Robin on all your points. I have been waiting to replace my EM1 mkii and EM5 mkii combination and wanted to see the OM offerings. Unfortunately I don't see any real advances as I need a hybrid camera these days for my work so after years of being a loyal Olympus user I am ordering a GH6

[@leendertvanzanten2427]

GH6, it will mis out phase detection

[@robinwong]

GH6 is a good alternative. Unfortunately I do not do video production work, hence my current OM-D system will suffice. If I do video, I'd jump onto the GH6 in no time.

[@mmbrombe8153]

Robin, really appreciate your honesty here. Your credibility has increased exponentially when compared to the sad brand ambassadors who are twisting themselves in knots trying to defend the pathetic release of the OM-5. Good job.

[@MarcLa1010]

I bought a Olympus EM-5 III e few months ago for 1 200.00$ Canadians dollars. I won't pay 1 600.00 $ Canadiens dollars for a OM-5. I Have lot of fun with my gear. Thank Robin for what you do. You do a great job.

[@pgy8863]

Yet another great video Robin. Underwhelming - yes. I agree with your thoughts, even the small obvious changes would have been seen as incremental. Here's a thought: The Oly OM-5 version 2 and 3 are really good, complete cameras. They are hard to make significant improvements, especially v3. As someone who's running along happily on an OM-5 v2, perhaps the new introduction will drop the price of v3? Let's be honest, all of these cameras can make great results in a variety of situations.

[@davebellamy4867]

Just got an EM5 Mk iii. Liking it. As an EM10 ii user. Discounts are deep and maybe getting deeper.

[@israelseguragonzalez1966]

I have both, gm1 and pentax q, GM1 is a little bit bigger than og pentax q. In thickness pentax q it's a little bit bigger than gm1. Visually, pentax q is smaller, lens wise pentax q is smaller. I will upload some pics side by side soon. At the end, watching both side by side, pentax q is smaller but thicker.

[@JDa67]

Hi Robin! 200% agree with you! It's exactly the same story as for the E-M5 Mk III. It was an E-M1 Mk II components and software in an E-M5 II low cost body. This time it's the E-M1 Mk III components and software (incl. menu) in an E-M5 Mk III body... I'm quiet disapointed and affraid about the future of the company if they don't react quickly.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Jerome for sharing your thoughts. I hope they get their act together and form better strategies moving forward.

[@yukonchris]

Hi Robin, what a shame! If your feature report is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it, then OMDS has massively missed a golden opportunity. I think they gained a lot of traction with the excellent OM-1, and this OM-5 release was their chance to capitalize on that by showing that OMDS really is the right company to take this photographic platform into the future. Well, this is a very competitive business which requires companies to give it their all, and part of that is paying attention to their loyal customers and giving them at least some semblance of what they are requesting. Overall, I agree with your thoughts on this. It does sound a lot like OMDS is making the same sort of mistakes we experienced before. From a personal standpoint, I was thinking about finally upgrading my original E-M1 to the OM-1, but this sort of release raises enough questions about OMDS commitment to progress, and future excellence, that I will have to think very hard about making that investment. Oh, and yes, USB-C should be an obvious improvement, as should the menu design. Even if OMDS missed some of the other opportunities to wow their potential audience, USB-C, and an improved menu are literally no-brainers!

[@robinschaeffer6252]

Some incremental changes that move it a little closer to the EM1.3 is not a bad thing. It may not have been intended to make people rush out and replace their EM5.3, but rather a way to allow people with older 16mp sensors to upgrade to 20 mps and throw in few upgrades for good measure. It also gets a camera out there with the new brand name. I would assume when the EM5.3's sell out they won't be making more of them.

[@Leptospirosi]

I would agree if this were an OM10: the 5 serie always has been (not the mkIII tho) the bench for new technologies that would then go into the professional serie 1, but now the OM5 hasj just become a way to restyle old generation cameras, with a 6 years old sensor and all the limitations (video) that this implies. A digital camera is just a sensor with some tech around to process the output: if you keep selling the same sensor, you are just selling a "restyle" for full price, not a new generation of the model.

[@robinwong]

It is not about making it closer to E-M1 Mark III. This is a successor to E-M5 Mark III, we need more significant upgrades from the E-M5 Mark III, all I am seeing is 99% similarities, which makes the OM-5 quite a redundant product.

[@weisserth]

I watched the live stream yesterday. As an owner of the E-M1 III my reaction was: "Meh." It's essentially an E-M1 III in a cheaper, inferior body - the improved rating for sealing does not compensate the inferior build quality. I'd probably still buy the E-M1 III over the OM-5 if I had to start from scratch. Even without changing the hardware they could have improved a lot of the software - like allowing custom video settings to be saved as mysets and assigned to custom modes - without that OMDS/Olympus bodies are not really great to use as video cameras - such low hanging fruit they could have addressed.

[@robinwong]

Basically the same camera, and they did a live stream? What a waste of marketing resources

[@weisserth]

@@robinwong I think they did this to provide an E-M1 III at a cheaper price point, cheaper by $600 compared to the recommended retail price of the E-M1 III and still $300 less than with the current rebate. The OM-5 will help them generate more revenue than the E-M1 III.

[@YannisSinadinos]

Hi Robin... I think there are two issues that cause so many complains about OM5. First is that rumour sites made people expected mini OM1 and they got mini EM1.3 which is less than expected. Second is that many Olympus users still believe that 5 series is the pioneer - innovative series of the system, but this has changed since em1.2 and this role switched to 1 series and the 5 series are getting the same features in a 2-3 years. People should realise that. Also having a look on other cameras: Fuji is using the same sensor on XE4/XT3/XT30/XT30II/XT4/XS10/X100V/XPRO3 for the last 5-6 years but why there are not so many complains about that?! Sony is using same sensor in a6000/a6100 and a6400/a6500 people didn't complain. Also new sensors are not always better than the previews in all the aspects (a7.4 is worse in low light than a7.3, same with A7R4 and A7R3, new fuji 40mp has worst DR than XT4 etc). So why complain that much for sensor, would people prefer the 25mp from panasonic gh6 which is worse low light but has 6 more mp? Price and specs for enthusiast - 1000-1300$ range: I think no company has 4k60p or 10bit at this range. Some cameras from sony a6400/a6500 and fuji XE4/XT3/XT30/XT30II/, don't even have IBIS at this price range. Most of them have 1 card slot and generally similar specs with OM5. I believe OM5 is a full specs camera for the 1199$ with unique features from other cameras (HHHR,LiveND,LiveComp etc). If the price was 1500-1600 then I would have much more demands from OMDS. Finally... I have the same big frustration for the MicroUSB and menu system. I expected this camera to replace my EM5.3 and be used as second camera with OM1 but I can't work with 2 different menus at the same time. And also I can't wait for 5h + to charge a battery with micro usb.

[@robinwong]

Even if we can put aside the "new sensor", there are still too many issues with the OM-5. Old plastic build which a lot of people complained, Micro USB as you said, old menu system, virtually no improvement in video in the world where people want a hybrid camera, and basically the camera is the same.

[@nicknie8782]

For the price range you mentioned, I think Lumix g9 has 4k 60p or even 10bit 4:2:2 with 4k30p. It has 2 sd card slots and capable ibis. This is a camera made 5 years ago. We all hope OM5 improves these things so I think OM5 is unacceptable in this regard.

[@YannisSinadinos]

@@nicknie8782 there are some compromises in smaller bodies. G9 is a great camera but is double size and another category.

[@rickbear7249]

Robin, I have to disagree, as I'd like to have seen OM SYSTEMS going further with stripping back on the gizmos to give us an even more basic photography tool. Yes, I do want exceptional build quality, and I actually like most of what I'm reading. Just so long as the price is right, I'll be happy to welcome an OM SYSTEMS branded EM-5 with just a few technical tweaks. What I really dislike is this headlong rush to add ever more gizmos into our gear instead of concentrating upon giving us a really good basic tool with excellent build and weatherproofing. Others may disagree, but I don't want an AI camera, just a basic small and lightweight tool onto which I can mount my superb Olympus PRO Series lenses. Rick

[@gabithemagyar]

I'm with you ! A camera aimed squarely at mostly stills photographers unencumbered with tons of video features that one rarely uses which lead to a complex menu system would make for a great travel and street camera if housed in a robust and ergonomic body. It would make sense to me to have models aimed at mostly stills photographers and others aimed at mostly video shooters. That seems to be the direction SONY is taking, for example.

[@cmartin_ok]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is underwhelmed by the OM5

[@robinwong]

Thanks Christopher

[@zayacz123]

You make very good points. I have the New OM1 and love it. I upgraded from the EM 1 Mark 2. All I can think of is they ran out of inventory and just made a few tweaks to boost sales. I agree with you regarding what they should have done. The technology is already there.

[@robinwong]

Thanks. How do you expect to boost the sales when the new camera is the same old?

[@zayacz123]

@@robinwong Exactly!

[@jonwalker3299]

This situation is exactly like the professional buying a new Nikon Z9. As a backup he can buy the Z6 or Z7 at less than half the price, use the same interchangeable lens, the same charging system, and the exact same menus . That is what I was expecting from the new OM5. I am so disappointed

[@davebellamy4867]

I would bet that there is loads of inventory. Hence big discounts on a lot of lenses and now the EM5 Mark iii. It's been a great year to get some of this stuff at basically 30 to 40% off. It makes me wonder if the sale of the camera division might have been basically an inventory sale plus the sale of an already designed OM1. That would explain the OM5 being basically an old EM1 Mk iii in an old EM5 Mark iii body. Just to prolong the life of this company long enough to shift the inventory they likely bought from Olympus? Perhaps?

[@craigcarlson4022]

Robin, I’m considering my first 4/3rds camera as a light and compact every day carry option. The Pen-F appeals to me…Do you think they’ll ever bring back a successor to that? What else might you recommend as a first 4/3rds model that has IBIS and is on the more compact side? Thanks for all your thoughts.

[@Erdal_Gumus]

Dear Robin your complaints are correct from my point of view. Olympus/OMD has lost the cost/benefits balance. OMD should offer a 24 Mpx resolution these days with better video specs at a low cost to survive. With reasonable pricing, it would go far further but… In the past, M43 had an undeniable weight/size advantage over DSLRs however that gap has already closed with the introduction of mirrorless systems in terms of body size. The M43 Panasonic GH6 is 823g/1200$ compared to the full-frame Nikon D780 840g/1200$ Sony A7 MIV 658g/2500$. As you can see a capable M43 body is bigger, heavier, and almost as expensive as a mirrorless full-frame body. This is mostly because of the drawbacks in video recording where full-frames have full-sensor read-out, cropping, and downscaling problems, where they are not able to use the full potential of a full-frame sensor. I don’t see a future for any M43 body priced over 1500$ at most.

[@jazzcats1000]

Hello Robin, totally agree. In some way revealing about OMDS state of affairs, unfortunately. On the bright side there will be spare parts for the EM-5mk3 for several more years!

[@pwx8460]

You cannot expect a revolution with each model release. All other manufacturers also do incremental releases. Any expectation of getting a mini OM-1 at a significantly lower price was delusional from the get go. Further note...OMDS likely needed to get away from the Olympus branding soon and this allows additional sales from a successful model...albeit with what I think are some significant additional features.

[@robinwong]

I have to politely disagree. It is the incremental increase that kills the old Olympus. We may not expect huge upgrades, but ignoring customer feedback especially on the plastic body and using micro USB, these are huge mistakes. I did not say I expect a mini OM-1. I do however, expect some progress, and more effort to improve from the E-M5 Mark III.

[@pwx8460]

@@robinwong thanks for replying Robin. I do agree some of the connection/port over sites are disappointing and less than customer supportive. However, I guess I took exception to an attitude that the improvements are insignificant. My use case as an example.... When getting into the system I considered the EM5 iii and EM1 iii, I chose the EM1 iii specifically for features that are now in OM-5. So I consider them significant. I suspect going forward the OM-5 will be 1 upgrade down from the OM-1. Much of the current OM-1 will be in the next OM-5 when there is a mark ii of the OM-1. Cheers.

[@GarrettLucasWV]

I'm not sure, Robin. I think I just might be the biggest Olympus/OM fan. I've been around since the days of the E-10 and it seems that no matter how much I want to fight for the company, I am going to be forever disappointed. After the ergonomic masterpiece of the E-1, they then went to a more traditional style body with the E-3 and E-5. Also, after only being in the 4/3 development cycle for a few years, they moved over to M43s, kind of leaving some of us high and dry with our SLR bodies and no path to future lens developments. By that point, I already had multiple E-1s, a couple of E-5s, etc. But hey, even though I didn't like it, I could understand the reasoning of going mirrorless especially with all of the new features they brought to the market before any other company. But then the stagnation occurred. We kept getting the same cameras/sensors/AF over and over. I understand the limitations with the 4/3 sensor. It will never match the image quality of full-frame and it may not have the latitude of higher MPs or better dynamic improvements. But, the company could certainly improve all of the other things around that sensor to improve the user experience, like better AF, a better EVF, USB-C as you said, better video specs (though I don't care about video), a better LCD panel and a much better menu system. I'm not expecting the world, but considering that they keep using the same tech over and over again, it seems like there's plenty of room in the price for better things like USB C, and a better EVF, etc. As you've pointed out, it seems like they aren't even trying at this point. That's not a good impression to make especially when so many of us had doubts about the company that bought the imaging business from Olympus. I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the OM-1 was already in the pipeline from the old company and not really new innovations or changes brought about by new company that acquired the business. With the OM-5 being the first real "new" product from the new company, it looks like a big step back and it does raise doubt that there's going to be any real innovation in the future. I said I was going to hold out to see what the new company was going to do. So far, I have to say that I am not impressed. I think the days of Olympus--as we once knew it---are long behind us never to be seen again.

[@leckywoznicki5393]

Yep I don't see the point ever. Thank You :)

[@robinwong]

Thanks

[@TresoBox]

This issue occurred with my OM-5: The multiple functions on the FN buttons aren't working properly. I assigned multifunctions to two different FN buttons, but when I set the first FN button to ISO, the multifunction of the second FN button automatically changes to ISO as well. Why can't I have two different multifunctions on two separate FN buttons? So sad

[@kokhowe]

This really shakens my confidence in the m4/3 system. I own the old EM1 model. Its quite old already, and I would like to replace it with something new, but looking at what is happening, I am at a dilemma - I value reach and weight over everything and shoot birds as well, so the m4/3 system is the perfect system for me. But I don't want to keep staying in the system that will die off in the near future with no proper support.

[@robinwong]

Your hesitation is justified. I wish they have listened to the customers more and showed more effort in the OM-5.

[@raekei04]

Have you tried a Fujifilm camera? I made the change a few years ago, the camera’s are a lot closer in size than you might think. With that said I still take my old em5 and 75mm lens out once in a while and really regret that the system didn’t thrive….

[@davebellamy4867]

What about Lumix? Any good newer cameras from them? It will be a bit difficult for M43 to survive with just one camera company. Unless another one comes in to fill the gap. There are some excellent lenses for the bodies.

[@cjk1943]

I agree with you about the camera thank you for your comments about the new camera

[@robinwong]

Thanks Calvin

[@jonafoto]

Underwhelming is the perfect description for the OM-5. I have a hard time getting by the fact that it lacks modern usb-c connectivity and the new modern menu system. And reusing the plastic body that many did not like and the same small evf shows they didn't listen to customer feedback.

[@gerrymac5865]

This new om camera seems to be just a E-Om5 mk3 firmware update. I won’t be buying one I like my OM5 mk3 and do not like the OM system logo on the front of this new camera.

[@robinwong]

Same here, agreed

[@LePetitMondedeMichel]

OM D System need to create buzz around every camera launched because today is the only way to sell camera. Look at what Sony and Fuji does. OM System haved a business decision to make and they choose to keep the cost of développement and manufacturing low, they already have a flagship camera in the OM 1, and on the compagnie side they have to put their name on the product their sailing.

[@andyandy2731]

Fully agree. The OM5 is not bad, but it brings nothing new. So overall it's a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT. OM SYSTEM did nothing new in OM5. Just crashed EM1 with EM5... Very pity

[@robinwong]

Thanks Andy, and yes we want more progress!

[@wikicamara]

Agree 100% with you. I think this camera is ment for new users not for existing OM users. It’s the only explanation for all these missed features. It gives little excuses to say “let’s upgrade my Em5 mk whatever” They not even bothered to build a cohesive lineup with the same menu system… so an OM1 owner that wants a second smaller body needs now to navigate a different menu? No sense. I don’t think OM-5 needed to have OM-1 sensor and processor… its not the flagship body. But… it was disappointing. And it annoys me that because i love my Olympus e-m5 mk2 and wanted to upgrade to a new body with better AF, bu with same body sturdiness as mk2 and knowing it is futureproof

[@danlee1811]

Why doesn't olympus take a new direction.... Bring out an Olympus trip style fixed lens, with optical / electronic viewfinder.. Simular to x100.. But smaller, body. I bet they would sell shed loads. The x100 range is always highly sought after. I'm surprised no other camera firm apart from fujfilm has took this approach. Just a thought.

[@robinwong]

This is something that you have to ask the marketing and R&D!

[@danlee1811]

I may well do Robin. You never know, in a year or so's time. An OM trip digital, with a 40mm equivalent prime and optical viewfinder would be flying of the shelves. What an addition! 🤞🤞.

[@scottgarriott3884]

I COMPLETELY AGREE with you that OMS could have put a tiny bit more effort into the OM-5 by including the newer style menu (it's already developed and ready-to-go!) and integrating a USB-C connector. These would have cost little but helped to avoid the well-deserved and stinging complaints about these ridiculous oversights. I am very happy about live-ND and handheld HiRes coming to the mid-series. This is how R&D normally trickles down from top tier to mid-level, and it is welcome. But with these and only slightly improved autofocus... this is a very meager improvement overall. As for using the exact same body ... this isn't a bad thing. The E-M5 III was hailed as a beautiful and ergonomic camera. In addition to loving its looks, I absolutely love how it feels and handles! Failing tripod-mounts aside, the plastic body of my E-M5 III has survived a couple unbelievable accidents with NO problem whatsoever. I have been amazed by its survivability! So what if it doesn't look like a futuristic space-ship? If absolutely nothing has been done about that awful tripod mount, I will agree that this was a horrendously lazy release.

[@mariusm2402]

Thanks Robin. I've to admit the two of us were not often on the same page in the last months. However - for the OM-5 I share your thoughts. I do own a EM1MIII and a EM5MII. The new OM-5 is basically a EM1MIII in a EM5 body and thus the OM-5 is offering nothing worth investing into. The 100g difference between EM1MIII and OM-5 is not justifying putting 1300 €on the table. For anyobe who wants to start... There are currently better offers with the EM1MIII bundle than for the OM-5... All the things about menu, micro USB, old sensor are now revealing the fears I had with the downfall of olympus and the restart by JP.... I hope so much they turn around the ship before its sinking. I want to continue using MFT - free format is what I need!

[@clintnorthwood8058]

I think you should specifically mention AF tracking because the AF is fine in the e-m5iii, just the tracking that needs improvement.

[@LC-nd9hv]

I have the Olympus pen-f and I saw this coming a long time ago, which is why i went ahead and bought the pen f in 2018 vs 2016 when prices went down. The overall improvement in the Olympus ecosystem is marginal from 2016 to today, and that's being nice. I still love my pen f and shoot with it daily, but I also upgraded to Fuji where innovation and community feedback is important to them and at the same size as micro four thirds. Sure Fuji isn't perfect, but they listen.

[@huislaw]

Even my flashlight has USB C, cannot understand why a camera in 2022 has no USB C.

[@RB-pp5tv]

I bought a $12 baby toy (a fake phone with flashing lights when the buttons are pressed) and it has a USB-C charging port.

[@nicobandi3280]

Hi and Thanks Robin. Your discussions are always so fascinating.

[@cliveturner6702]

I totally agree with you Robin, I am very underwhelmed with this so called new camera.

[@falale4797]

The Om5 is a polite way to tell people go and get a fujifilm 😢

[@CMBDIA]

i get excited when there is a new robin wong video! i have an em5mii and it's absoutely incredible. It's what has me stick with m4/3. What I really want is the body of a lumix g9 with the functionality of the om-5. I have to add a grip to my em5. it's not a negative on olympus. i knew what i was getting into with the style/form factor. the om1 is really nice but a bit out of my price range. maybe i'll wait for the em1miii to drop in price to get that next. Also, I really dislike the plastic body. I'll deal with the extra cost and weight of the metal body. I agree with the weight savings on camera systems. I've been struggling with lower back pain and got spine surgery this year. So if I can alleviate pressure on my back then that's great. I came from an APSC system to m4/3. I'm not saying it was a major factor in my decision but I can enjoy outdoor activities more when my backpack weighs less. I carry 2 bodies and maybe 3-5 lenses at a time.

[@robinwong]

Thanks Art for commenting. I wish they listened more to their customers!

[@jeguerrag]

this specs plus adding the om1 autofocus, 4k 60p, 10bit h265 internal and usb-c .... no doubt I would buy one, even pay a little more for it.

[@Lordvader330]

Excellent video. I will stick with my OM-1 and my EM-1 MII & X

[@robinwong]

You already have the best!